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Tsukuyomi soon <3
>>67222927Just play with Tsukuyomi now since Cardfight Area updated
New form soon.
So this is the power of Tsukuyomi, not bad
>the narukami builds are gravitating towards GBD + Detonix Drill>Detonix Drill got bought outUh oh.
>>67223511>Clans are running both of their VRsWho could have ever seen this coming?
>>67223851I just don't really care for detonix drill, I personally think his swings are too low power to ride over GBD, even if he gets to restand.
>>67223511Just go with Thunder Break or Great Composure
I recently started collecting cards from a game that I now want to put in a binder. Those things are like 5 bucks, is there any reason to buy more expensive binders?
>>67224793More expensive usually means more slots for cards.
>>67223511>>67223851I hope they're not running 4 of each, GBD and Drill don't mesh well enough together for that to work.
>>67224793Usually more expensive = higher quality.
>>67225031Yeah but is there any reason to have higher quality? I mean the cards are already sleeved, so I don't want to use the binder for protection.
>>67225282Well in the case of that binder, it's really, really cheap quality. The slots are top-loading and really loose, should the binder be held at anything lower than perfectly flat, your cards will slide out all over the place. The pages themselves are also extremely flimsy on top of that. I get that you don't want to spend too much for a product if you don't think you'll need all the protection that price provides, but you can find the standard ultra pro 9 pocket binders for like 15 dollars and they are infinitely better than that collectors album.
>>67225531I guess that sounds reasonable, thanks anon.
>>67223386>15 card hand against an accel deck>not even a protect giftWhat are you doing wrong?
>>67227233That wasn't me. That was just a random game I found when spectating This was though. They went first too
Street Performer that Brings Smiles, Yuga ■ [Call Cost] [Pay 1 gauge & Put the top card of your deck into its soul] ■ [Counter] [Act] "Let's Enjoy It!" During your turn, call an «Adventurer» or «Deity Dragon Tribe» from your hand on top of this card. "Let's Enjoy It!" can only be activated once per turn. ■ When a card with this card in its soul attacks, you gain 1 life and deal 1 damage to your opponent! [Soulguard]
>>67222927>Inb4 It's not even optimal
>>67229842It wasn't optimal when I built it the first time, either. =]
>>67227537>Not playing 12 critbut why
Thoughts on Force II Spikes in the Bermuda/Kagero/Messiah/Noba meta?
>>67230971Spikes can't keep up with the high tier season 2 decks because of the difference in hand size/card advantage
>>67231123What about Narukami Accel II before the new stuff? I've seen them top a bit in Japan.
>>67230971Spikes can punt out players a bit because of force 2 if they don't have a good guarding hand, but they're definitely not as solid as the higher tier clans.
>>67230898I don't know what to cut, waiting to see what Japan does with the deck first
>Za gureito is 60 dollars a copies where I typically orderJesus christ.
>>67234803It's one of two high rarity cards in a short printed set and used by an overhyped character. This is expected
Thread is up>>>/a/190531306
>>67236123I dont see how it will last
>>67236457Just use your imagination, anon!
>>67222703>Subclans are coming back in vanguard>Dual World cards and support for actually cool decks are coming back to Buddyfightbushi is actually getting back on track here.
>>67236959Subclans are shit
how am I supposed to beat Gauntlet Buster when he easily swings for 38k+ and 6+ crits each turn?
>>67237957>38kStop playing Accel
>>67237957>38kWhat makes you even think you're going to be lasting long enough to get 3 accel gifts?
>>67237677I don't care
>>67237677At least the cards are just random retrains and they are generic so that they aren't going to shackle deck building back to the Break Ride / Legion eras.
>>67237957>turns out making accel decks strong hurts other accel decks the mostProtect normally has a larger handsize, Force still has the 13k base, but accel frequently kills other accel the most when one gets support. Meanwhile accel has neither the larger base nor the hand size to compensate. Look at Shirayuki, that card was brutal on other accel decks because it lowered the power of already relatively low power swings.
>>67238574Nah its narukami
>>67239128I know, I was using Shirakyuki as an example. This time it's GBD who thoroughly fucks accel decks, because accel circles will count as open front row, making GBD stronger. Accel typically doesn't have the amount of card draw to handle calling out units just to have them all bound turn after turn.
>tfw you accidentally ordered the wrong edition cardAnother week of waiting it is, and I was so close to finishing my ott deck.What other cards should I get for standard ID/Deer? Silent Tom?
Phantom Clown, Ranma ■ [Call Cost] [Put a card from your drop zone into its soul & Pay 1 gauge] ■ If this card is on your field, your opponent cannot gain life!■ [Counter] [Act] Choose a card on your opponent's turn, and you may drop an «Adventurer» or «Dimension Dragon» from your hand. If you do, destroy that card. If your flag is "Lost World", put that card into the drop zone instead. This ability can only be activated once per turn. [Soulguard]
>>67239214Which card did you order the wrong version of?My final copy of old foil Psychic Bird showed up yesterday after that whole mess, so now I don't have to see that lone irritating BT02 (JP) copy that was its placeholder.
>>67240800Cuore Magus, I accidentally bought her EB07 card instead of the standard version.Has anyone had issues with tcgplayer where cards never arrived? I still need one CEO and Imperial Daughter but while everything else I've bought has arrived the two from smaller sellers haven't.
>>67240937Other than my recent issue where the order was missing a Bird, I've never had any problems. I do have two sellers who ship slower than everyone else, so I always try to take that into account when placing orders.
>>67240937I've een ordering from tcgplayer for a long time and sometimes orders do not arrive.I usually try to contact the seller and they refund it.There's been a few times where the seller disappears and the order never arrives, in those cases tcgplayer customer service can refund it for you.
>>67240989>>67241089Well since it hasn't been eight business days yet I'll keep patient until then. But it's so hard to be patient when you're this close to finishing your deck, not to mention CEO has shot up to $10 so I'd prefer getting my last copy for $1.50 than a refund.I'm glad you finally got your birb anon, hope you have fun.
Link Bandit Leader, Masato ■ [Call Cost] [Pay 1 gauge & Put the top card of your deck into its soul] [Soulguard] [D Share] (All cards with [D Share] on your field get the following "D") "D" When this card link attacks, destroy a card on your opponent's field. If you do, draw a card.
>>67242376Hooray for draw engines and field clearers!
>>67241109>not to mention CEO has shot up to $10Holy shit, why? I checked my order history, and I paid 97 cents for them. Ten bucks is absurd.
>>67243701I don't know, but I wonder if I should see if my lgs still has them for $2 and flip them.
>>67243701RRRs that see play are getting bought out.
>>67241109>>67243701>>67246157The absolute state of the Vanguard secondary market. This game is a joke.
>>67246495That odd spot of not enough people feeding into the market with just enough demand to drain what's there.It's why after G I just said fuck it to anything involving regular protag/antag clans and why I never picked up a BuddyFight deck since it seems like anything you need is short supply or really overpriced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yczt6R1dj1Q&t=0sOh boy oh boy, new Bladewing plus more confirmed character dualworld cards!New corgi + new Bladewing = My boy(girl?) Sheila Vanna chances have skyrocketed!
>>67246612I'm curious by what you mean, do you mean that not enough people are buying boosters to get cards to sell while the majority of players are only buying singles?How can bushiroad remedy this? What are the pull rates for extra boosters? I'm getting the urge to buy a EB07 box.
>>67247030Bushiroad needs to accept reprints as a needed thing in their game would help. They sorta recognize this in the Western market with their revival collections but I feel they don't go far enough for some clans, especially when considering premium.
>>67247085the last revival collection was a fucking joke since bushi decided that they would reprint both cards that nobody plays (altered dragon reprint xD) and cards that didnt need reprints at all (haha overwhelm and gluttony dogma who already got reprints lmao stride fodder haha!!). Their main set reprints are equally worthless when they decide to reprint the cards that were rendered useless by new forms in the very pack the reprint is in (lol vanq) or by making them JUST AS HARD TO PULL AS THE ORIGINAL VERSION.Nobody can convince me that this game isnt an absolute shitshow. At least buddyfight reprints useful cards but the supply is still too low for anybody to find any cards that they need without paying ridiculous amounts for them
>>67247030>I'm curious by what you mean, do you mean that not enough people are buying boosters to get cards to sell while the majority of players are only buying singles?What I read this as is is that there aren't a large amount of people opening product, because buying sealed just isn't worth it the majority of the time unless you want to build every clan in the set, or are a supplier meaning you open product to make profit selling singles. There are less suppliers than something like Magic, meaning less storefronts open product. Less opened product means less singles on the market. Meaning while VG's community is small, it is not small enough where there is no demand. tl;dr not enough product being opened to match the demand. This is the crux of the issue. Shit, even reprinting right now in my opinion isn't worth it for anything other than draw PGs and VRs and maybe some RRRs that are expected to keep seeing play past later sets of support. Even though CEO Amy is now 10 fucking dollars, it's better to run Hexagonal Magus now anyways because Murakumo got squeezed out of the meta, which was the only reason why CEO was ran over Hexagonal because the on-ride skill is better, but if Zanbaku keeps you from re-riding, you're left with a vanilla where CEO can keep going through cards.
>>67242633>>67243628Not a good choice for LDO. You can have plenty of draw and search already, and Goegoe lets you sweep almost any board if you have the +10k Agito in play.
>>67248225I suppose his efforts can go to a pure Adventurer or sprinkled in a Knight deck of todays trying times.
Ultima says:[AUTO]:When placed on (VC), COST [Counter Blast (2)], search your deck for four cards, shuffle your deck, call two cards from among them to separate (RC), and put the rest on the top of your deck in any order. Until end of turn, choose all of your units for your trigger effects.If the units I call to RC have effects when placed, do I resolve those after finishing the rest of Ultima's text or do they essentially interrupt the resolution of putting the other 2 cards on top of your deck?
>>67248302Skills finish first, then you trigger other effects in whatever order you desire.So say you call a unit that draws a card when called, you'd have to finish Ultima, then you could draw.
>>67248340Thank you, anon.
>12 crit pentagonal magus with fusilli magus to make a 6 drive check vanguardHmmmmm
>>67249894I am also curious
>>67247789you use ceo because of the constant checking of top deck tsukyuomi ott does
>>67249894Its still pretty meme after all that
Wiser Astrologer Subaru ■ [Call Cost] [Put an «Adventurer» or «Astrodragon» from your drop zone into its soul] ■ If this card is on your left, all cards on your opponent's field get critical-1! ■ If this card is on your right, all cards on your field get critical+1! ■ If you are equipped with an item, reduce the size of this card on your field by 1. [Move] [Soulguard]
>>67248225Well that's sad
>>67251107>constant checkingYou mean the one time a turn when you use G3 Tsukuyomi? I rather have something else than "i amount to only a +5k power now" CEO.
■ This card can only be equipped if a size 3 monster with "Yamigedo" in its card name is on your field.■ [Equip Cost] [Pay 1 gauge & Pay 2 life]■ This card cannot be destroyed by your opponent's card effects, and cannot leave the field by your opponent's card effects.■ This card can attack even if there is a monster on your center.■ If a size 3 monster with "Hyakugan" in its card name is on your center, you cannot be dealt damage.[Penetrate] [Double Attack]>>>>>>HyakuganFUCK METHIS SOLVES THE DECK'S ISSUE WITH PENETRATE, RAIJIN FUCKING SUCKS, BUT ONLY WITH HYAKUGAN? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME BUSHI? WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING
>>67253072Enjoy your meme deck support
>>67253010People are running several cards that check the top actually.
>gun salute got 2nd at a 60 player vmc qualifierThe hell?
>>67256189It's because they cut their heals like a real accel deck.
>>67257481I didn't even notice, what a fucking power move.
Phoenix of Deity Technique, Bladewing Phoenix ■ [Call Cost] [Put an «Adventurer» and «Dungeon Enemy» from your field into this card's soul & Pay 2 gauge] ■ At the start of your attack phase, if an «Adventurer» and another «Dungeon Enemy» are on your field, draw two cards and, for this turn, this card gets [Quadruple Attack] ■ When this card attacks, you gain 1 life and deal 1 damage to your opponent! [Move] [Penetrate] [Soulguard [Counterattack]
>>67250063Apparently someone in Japan had a similar idea, but threw in 2 draw PGs.
>>67251937Looks good in a Zodiac deck.
>>67260732It does? I guess all you need is some other astrodragon to run with it. Maybe some draw?
Jesus Christ, we've been dead as a doornail. We're constantly on pages 9 and 10, if it weren't for the buddyfags with their spoilers we'd probably would have ended the run this thread.
>Both variants XVR JI ENDO are indeed a thing in EnglishI wonder if we'd get the old art version of Harmonics in English since that was the DaiVanguardSai Presale exclusive>>67263660There's no CotD either since it is a public holiday in Japan, so it is extra dead
>>67263743Because Harmonics Messiahs art are so similar anyways, they gave the XVR SP ver the art from the JP only SP from the movie pack.
How is Pale Moon in premium? I know that it's not tier 1 since it can't win first stride like the other big boys can, but how good is it if those aren't a factor? Also how pretty/ugly are the hotstamps on the precol cards and does a Darklord Princess on R go back to the g-zone at the end of the turn?
Haven't played Vanguard since 2015plan on getting myself re-introduced with the console game coming out in SeptWhat has changed since 2015? I have no idea what a G Guardian is. My problem with Vanguard is that most matches play out super predictably. It's very hard to win before either player's 2nd Stride, so all the turns before that feels like a waste of time.
>>67264629>It's very hard to win before either player's 2nd StrideThat seems to have changed. This OTT deck I'm running wins on first stride. Like, win or lose, every game I've played with it is over on first stride.
>>672646292015 was like, when Regalie was top tier. A lot has changed.G Guards are called from G Zone by discarding a heal trigger from hand. They have high defense values and slowed the game down for a while.There are now 2 formats, Standard and Premium. Standard is only cards with the V mark, the whole game was rebooted with higher numbers. So there is now a new V Blaster Blade, V Alfred, etc. V series does not have strides, they have Imaginary Gift markers that the player gets when you ride a G3 with a Gift icon.Premium has strides and uses all the old cards or the V cards and you can even use both. The best decks in Premium now win on 1st stride, G Guardians have not kept up with the new Stride unit power levels. Because of the power of 1st strides, G2 gaming is coming back.
>>67264629>What changed?There was a reboot last year, creating two formats. Standard, which is the reboot forward, and Premium, which is the entire cardpool. Standard is the more popular one, and is the one that the video game is using. Along with the reboot, the numbers increased, vanguards have 12 or 13k bases, 8k and 10k on RGs are no longer vanillas and can have effects, units have stronger skills generally speaking, there are no longer G units (in standard). There is also a new mechanic called Imaginary Gift. Most grade 3s have it, and there are 3 different kinds. You get the gift when you ride a vanguard that has it. The Force gift gets put on a front row circle and gives +10k power during your turn, the Accel gift makes a new front row circle and gets power +10k to that circle during your turn, and the Protect gift gives you a sentinel. With one exception, they are not interchangeable, meaning clans only have access to one gift. Alfred here is a force vanguard, you can tell because of the symbol under twin drive. A G-Guard is a G-unit that gets called as a guard at the cost of discarding a heal. Introduced in the middle of G era.>It's very hard to win before either player's 2nd StrideDiscard that notion.
>>67264816>8k and 10k on RGs are no longer vanillas and can have effects8k and 10k *G1s and G2s are no longer vanillas.
>>67264735>wins on first strideSounds like the ol' Commander Laurel+Heavyduke deck where you aim to 2x Triple Drive on your first Stride (your opponent can't use Sentinels during this) That deck was one of the very few exceptions. This was the problem with Vanguard: the game had very little variety in deck-building, match flow, and win condition. Every deck was built the same way: 16-15-11-8Every match progressed the same way: grind each other down and until you are allowed to use your boss's ultimate skill for the win. I'm wondering if it's any different in 2019.
>>67264792>>67264816>The Force gift gets put on a front row circle and gives +10k power during your turn, the Accel gift makes a new front row circle and gets power +10k to that circle during your turn, and the Protect gift gives you a sentinel. Generally, is there a best gift?Critical was by far the best Trigger. 16x Critical Trigger decks were fun. Are Gifts also imbalanced?
>>67264881There's less "wait to pull of ultimate skills" now, at most you're looking at soul blast a grade 3 or ride over a grade 3. And that's not even a universal restriction, some main G3s can play hardball the turn they come down. However, there is a problem with deckbuilding since we're only just now getting to the wave 2 of standard, about half the clans only have one set of support, meaning one real deck. The ratios are a bit different depending on the clan though, some run as many as 12 G3s and can get away with this because we now have grade 0 perfect guard draw triggers.
>>67264948Inherently, there is no best gift, and they have a rock-paper-scissors deal where force beats accel, protect beats force, and accel beats protect. Bigger units takes more to guard and accel decks really hurt on handsize, which is why Force is good against Accel. You can have however big a unit you want, but I get PGs every time I ride, which is why Protect is good against Force. You can have as many PGs as you want, but I can attack 5 times per turn and using those PGs means you use 2 cards, which is why Accel is good against Protect. However, they made some design choices. Force has the stronger units. They can have 13k G3s and 10k G2s, while Protect and Accel get 12k G3s and 9k G2s. That 1k of difference is pretty big for accel clans, it means they can guard a lot easier. There's also the fact that because gifts are tied to clans, that means that Royal Paladin, Kagero, Shadow Paladin, and Bermuda Triangle, four of the most pushed clans in the game, are all Force clans, Force clans will generally be the best in any given meta.
>>67265032what an informative summarythanks
>>67265075Also, just because Force clans are powerful doesn't necessarily make Accel clans bad. As you can see here Nova Grapplers an Accel clan can survive perfectly well in a Force heavy meta. Both Bermuda Triangle and Link Joker are Force clans. LJ isn't nearly as scary as they once were however, so far in standard they haven't been able to lock their opponent's units, only their own as part of costs.
>>67265357That above may be one of the best sets of posts for new players. Good job
>>67265357>>67265032>>67264965>>67264816I will add this shit to the pastebin if you dont mind
>>67265032Doesn't Gift II kinda break or diminish this?Accel now can have more cards vs Force.Force now can have more pressure vs Protect, especially if the Protect player would otherwise conserve cards by taking the first/smallest RG attack.Protect now can have better per-card value vs Accel.
>>67268144It slightly diminishes it as now Accel and Force are trading offensive power for either draw or critical and nobody runs protect 2
>>67268776Protect II is really bad, they should have at least given the unit resist and intercept too so it wouldn't be so bad
>>67268856Only benefit I've found is letting Magatsu lanes actually hit with protect 2. Still never won a game outside hard sacking but it helped here and there.Any other clan I might as well not have ran gifted G3s. Really needs a tweak but I have a feeling Bushi will just skew design around it and likely drop the ball.
Thoughts on tiers?
>>67265357>Shadow Paladins not listedDamnit bros, it hurts
>>67271411>d-police T1>Messiah T2
>>67271411Narukami is over rated
>>67271411>Tachikaze T3>Murakumo below them
>>67271411>Neo Nectar Tier 3>Royals Tier 2>Tsukuyomi Tier 2>Granblue Tier 2>Fucking The End is Tier 2>Gauntlet Buster Tier 1 meanwhile PBD is Tier 3>Dimension Police>Tier 1If that list is about power levels and not like art or something trivial it's completely retarded/10It's fucking stupid to have a tier list with the way the game is going given that clans have an easier time dealing with anothers gimmicks regardless of the gift anyway. Just because some dumbass nip is too much of an NPC to bring, lets say,Spike Brothers or Granblue to tournies and wipe Gauntlets or Bermudas face up doesn't mean it's fucking it's lower they're lower than them. Following the hype is fine and all but goddamn.
>>67273711I feel the image maker is basing it off locals or usage. Recent cards spike up in showings then drop as the game settles.
>>67273711>>Royals Tier 2>>Tsukuyomi Tier 2>>Granblue Tier 2>>Fucking The End is Tier 2All of these are correct>Just because some dumbass nip is too much of an NPC to bring, lets say,Spike Brothers or Granblue to tournies and wipe Gauntlets or Bermudas face up doesn't mean it's fucking it's lower they're lower than them.Spikes are literally worse Bermudas right now and Granblue actually had a spike in use after MGJ but still couldn't top as much as messiah that wasn't being used as much. Objective powerlevels are a thing
>>67273711It doesn't matter what a bigger variety of decks they use, the decks with the higher consistency will still be on the top more often than not. If anything it will just mostly eat from the percentages of the lower percentage decks that currently have made the meta chart.Or can you show me some Western Chart with completely different results? On the locals here it is mostly the same shit, except with Bermuda dominating even harder.
>>67274178Royals flop over and goddamn die to any sort of field manipulation and more over the Blaster Blade engine is a complete joke that is excruciating just having their BBs aggroed and poked at which is insanely popular given that CB denial is huge right now. This is all shit that the tier 3 decks are fully capable of and even some of the I guess trash tier clans on the bottom right which make the match up with Royals extremely easy. They are not tier 2Tsukuyomi is absolute garbage when your ridie chain fails and even when it is successful literally all that has to happen is for your opponent to not hold back and it gets completely fucked up the ass. It is not Tier 2Granblue laughs all day everyday with shitloads of Perfect Gs and shuts any Force deck outside of Messiah right the fuck down and due to a majority of their G3s havings crit and power it shits on Accel decks too It's less Tier 2 and more tier 1.The End is absolutely trash at pressure and there's multiple things in the Tier 3 that makes it eat ass. It being Tier 2 is nothing but full retard.>Spikes are literally worse Bermudas right nowWhich still puts it much higher than fucking The End or fucking Tsukuyomi.>Objective powerlevels are a thingWhen it's retarded it's less than a thing.>>67274554The decks used and the consistency go hand in hand. You can't look me in the eye and say 2 Bermuda Triangle decks would still get first place in a tournament with 4 Granblue users.
>>67274768>The decks used and the consistency go hand in hand. You can't look me in the eye and say 2 Bermuda Triangle decks would still get first place in a tournament with 4 Granblue users.I am not sure if they would even count such a small event, but for the sake of argument let's say it is the same ratio. Sure, why not? If the Bermuda players know what they are doing there is a very high chance one of them will be first. But of course, there is some chance neither of them will be first. And that's reflected in the chart, because Bermuda are not the only deck on it. 25% wins (or top 4) is relatively low compared to some other games, but it is still up there compared to most of the decks in Vanguard.What topped is not even the same as what participated. Though not for Japan the guy that posts these charts had a chart for distribution of decks in a Singapore tournament of 75 people. Only 13% of the players played Bermuda. You have to remember Bermuda are also a more expensive deck to build in full power. So it wouldn't be surprising if a lower number of people actually play them, but a higher percentage of them top.And the meta chart is based on wins in small tournaments and topping at best 4 or higher in a big event. If we reduce it only to winning decks the gap between the high percentage deck and low percentage decks will only increase.
>>67274768>Talking about cards but not clansSo this is what autism looks like
>>67274768>spike brothers>better than kagero
>>67274768Was about to reply you seriously but then saw>Granblue laughs all day everyday with shitloads of Perfect Gs and shuts any Force deck outside of Messiah right the fuck down and due to a majority of their G3s havings crit and power it shits on Accel decks too It's less Tier 2 and more tier 1.So you're the retard who kept shilling GB like mad before the release, thought you were just went silent admiting your mistake yet you're doubling down on your retardation despite the results clearly proving you wrong.
>>67275437Someone was shilling GB like mad?
>>67276344Not spamming really, but someone was claiming in a very long discussion some threads ago that it would surely be tier 1. Kinda like the accelet did with deletors in V-EB04
>>67276555The accelet was hilarious especially since deletors fell off harder than most other clans
I recently picked up a standard Gear Chronicle deck. Which gift is better for it, Force I or II?
>>672775711, you spam gifts due to how the G4s work in that deck and force 2 is going to be worthless past the 3rd one. Your RGs also hit like noodles if they don't have the force 1 marker on them.
>>67277571>>67277597Force 1 is the most used one yes, but I don't understand by people keep acting like picking your gift is set in stone before you even know what the situation is going to be like when you first ride to G3. Force 2 has its applications in Gears, for example I feel like Mystery Flare's extra turn is happening very soon, or I'm up against Protect 1, my choice in that moment will be Force 2 for the extra crit pressure. 2 turns of 6 attacks all at 2 crit is nothing to ignore, especially the Mystery Flare turn, with the board power gain and your vanguard with an additional crit atop of Force 2 and an extra drive check.
>>67278264To be fair, a lot of clans have their gift types as no brainers:Novas with Accel 2Most protect clans with Protect 1
>>67274924>there is a very high chance one of them will be first>Very highEhhh no. I specificed Granblue because that's a shit matchup for them. It's not very high it's very low as through looping shit like Ripple Banshee/Ghost Shipride for draws and Greedshade for Perfect Guards or G3s so it's very hard pressed for them to hit them no matter the power.>>67275437No, i'm not him but>An internet argument made you so mad that whenever someone tries to cover the subject it makes you this mad like PTSD to even cover the subjectlaffin.> the results clearly proving you wrong.If we're talking tournament results those results are because it's not getting used enough. Just look at that pie chart earlier.>>67275297>>67274934Not Kagero but The End,yes. And the chart is clearly referencing competitive decks not clans else there wouldn't be 2 Link Joker entries.
First RRR for V-BT06 and of course it is a goddamn retrain, and also confirms that Shadow Paladin will get at least 2 RRRs since this is numbered 007Transient Revenger, MasqueradeGrade 1 / 8000 PWR / 10000 SLD / BoostACT (RC): Cost[CB1, put this unit into Soul] Choose a "Blaster Dark" in your Drop Zone and call it to a (RC), and that unit gets +5000 PWR until end of turn.CONT (RC): During the battle that it boosted, this unit gets +3000 PWR.>>67263859So it is the same as the Japanese version then
>>67280674>Choose a "Blaster Dark"Are Shadows going to go the way of the Royals now, focusing on BD?
>>67281198If Mordred Phantom is some inverse copy and paste job of Gancelot then it'll probably focus on Blaster Dark, and I guess the means the Grade 2 RRR will probably be Nullity Revenger, Masquerade for more of that "LOL look how original we are" goodness
>just bit the bullet and dropped 40 bucks on trial deck singles plus Misaki's deck and sleeves so I can introduce a friendI hope he likes it and I hope I pull some fancy RRR from Misaki's, it's actually cheaper to just buy hers sealed because Rectangle and Cuore are a buck each.
>>67279985>If we're talking tournament results those results are because it's not getting used enough. Just look at that pie chart earlier.This chart >>67265357 is actual tops, not representation. In the first weeks GB was one of the most used clans, but its usage progressively went in decay because people noticed it wasn't enought to stop bermuda and on top of that it got shat on by NG and GP. Look for yourself how people progressively got dropped:http://bluestar899.blogspot.com/2019/06/new-sets-out.htmlhttp://bluestar899.blogspot.com/2019/06/cardfight-vanguard-ocg-tournament_27.htmlhttp://bluestar899.blogspot.com/2019/07/cardfight-vanguard-ocg-tournament.htmlhttp://bluestar899.blogspot.com/2019/07/cardfight-vanguard-ocg-tournament_9.html
>>67281785I hope you do too, bought a Bermuda Triangle trial and the only worthwhile RRR was the draw trigger that'll be replaced once the PG arrives.I also hope your friend enjoys the game, new players are always welcome.I'm torn, I can either stick with OTT which doesn't seem like it'll be very strong even with Tsuyukomi, or upgrade the Bermuda trial or Nova deck when EB07 drops.
>make order>forget to buy precol cards and flying peryton>againIt keeps happening.
>Try out a new deck>get the hang of how to play it>fight a few people>all miraculously heal out at 6>proceed to lose next turnGee no better way to get turned off from a new deck.
>>67283292>take new deck for a spin>face off exclusively against the worst MUs it has
Feels weird dropping like 30 bucks on supplies featuring Gancelot and then not planning on building him.
>>67282151>because people noticed it wasn't enought to stop bermudaI unironically stopped reading there because I just explained to you, in detail even, naming cards and strats even why it's a shit match up for Bermuda. That's not why they stopped playing it. They stopped playing it because they knee jerked towards Aqua Force and Maelstrom just saying NO to their hands and now even they're probably going to not play it even more because of Gauntlet Buster binding it'll probably go down even more. But in the process at least BT,I think anyway as I haven't played or seen their matchup against Gauntlet THAT much,is probable to follow. If they stuck with GB BT would have been far less successful easy.
>>67284869Narukami is already doing a decent job keeping BT down.
We have the VRs for BT06MordredMASQUERADE G3Original Murakumo unit(Hyu-Ga)Original DI unitLuquier
>>67286039Okay bushiroad stop this shit where the 6th?
>>67286039>That luquier art
>>67284104What supplies and how much for shipping?
>>67280674Worst SP RRR yet
Stream is up, 4 Pale Moon cards including Luquier:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRQbwp9m5_8
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>>67286685>that middle panelI see what you did there
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Silver Thorn Conjurer, Romy[ACT](RC):[COST][[Rest] this unit, and put it into your soul], look at three cards from the top of your deck, put any number of cards with "Silver Thorn" in their card names from among them into your soul, and put the rest on the bottom of your deck in any order.
Silver Thorn Beast Tamer, Doriane[AUTO](VC/RC):At the end of your turn, [COST][put all of your other rear-guards into your soul], and draw a card for every two cards put into your soul for this cost. If you put four or more cards, return a grade 3 card with "Silver Thorn" in its card name from your soul to your hand. Retire this unit on (RC).
Silver Thorn Marionette, Lilian[AUTO](VC/RC):When placed from hand, [COST][Counter-Blast 1], search your deck for up to one card with "Silver Thorn" in its card name, put it into your soul, and shuffle your deck.[AUTO](RC):When it attacks a vanguard, if your soul has four or more cards with "Silver Thorn" in their different card names, this unit gets [Power] +10000 until end of that battle.
Silver Thorn Dragon Tamer, Luquier[CONT](VC/RC):During your turn, if you called two or more cards from your soul this turn, this unit gets [Power] +10000.[ACT](VC)[1/turn]:[COST][Counter-Blast 2 & Discard a card from your hand], call any number of cards with "Silver Thorn" in their card names from your soul to (RC), and all of your front row rear-guards get [Power] +3000 until end of turn
BUY OUR SLEEVESAlso stream fight is Royal Paladin vs Nubatama
>>67286849Ok but why.>>67286829This is just free >>67286863This is also good>>67286885>Not on attackEh its good tho
>>67286885>The girls are behind the skill textBUY SPs
>>67287065>I can't believe it...>we're on a VR!
>>67286829Oh hey its the old starter skill
I went to the lgs and people already had cards from EB07, did I miss something, I thought it releases the 19th?
>>67287547Stores do prereleases for sets the week before they come out. You just have to check if/when our lgs does them
>>67284869>I just explained to you, in detail even, naming cards and strats even why it's a shit match up for Bermuda.Get your head out of your ass fucking dumbass, anyone can come up with theories on how a matchup can develop but you obviously haven't actually played it. Turns out that even if you consistently have pg's if you only draw 4 cards per turn and your opponent forces 6 because all 3 columns demand pg you're still being outvalued, on top of that granblue's game before g3 ride is shit so they can be easily rushed, especially when the bt player opens a liselote. Also you haven't addressed the actual results at all. Since you're such a lazy ass faggot to even look at those links then look at pic related. Granblue was consistently one of the most used clans on the first week after the release of MGJ (EVEN MORE PLAYED ON AVERAGE THAN BT) and still topped less than mermaids despite AqF being the least played clan of the new set on release.
>>67287705>>>>>TheoriesI want everyone watching this to see this utter shitter literally just called how a toolboxing graveyard deck functions against an unga bunga one is a fucking theory. Moving on to what you said you are definitely not playing Granblue right if you are crying about being "outvalued" Fuck I doubt you can even play a Protect deck in general now after that. The only way they should be outvaluing you in between your own constant 30k+ potential +crit lanes is by your own poor judgement.>Also you haven't addressed the actual results at allIt helps a lot when the person i'm addressing doesn't actively lower my opinion of them. There's literally nothing to address in the first place as the one with the most Granblue was a Team tournament and the rest save for one had far less representation. The excuse makes itself, as it falls in line with my argument.To not even be able to see as much just further bolsters my feelings that you aren't worth discussing this with. Like at all. Don't get salty if I skip most of your post again because I can feel something dumber coming on.
>>67286885>it's worst than gun saluteWELAD.
>>67286829it's one of those card that are really good but only work in bad decks
Holy shit they actually did it. Eat your heart out Mother Dragon.Dungeon WorldDemon Lord, Chaos■ [Call Cost] [Pay 2 gauge & Put the top two cards of your deck into its soul]■ If your flag is "Dungeon World", reduce the size of all other «Demon Lord» on your field by 3.■ When this card enters the field, call up to one «Demon Lord» or «Chaos» monster other than "Chaos Demon Lord, Wisdom" from your drop zone by paying its [Call Cost].[Chaos Territory] [Double Attack] [Soulguard]
>>67289000>now Dungeon World can have a 4 monster field if they wantHA HA HA HA, YES. I DIDN'T KNOW I WANTED THIS UNTIL NOW.
>>67287566Oh so you're able to purchase the booster early? Or is it like draft in MTG where you buy some boosters and make decks with what you get?Boy did I miss out.
>>67289214It's sealed format so the latter. Pay in, get 4 early packs, build with what you get, stores give their own prizes for winners, often more packs
>these new PM cards>hard return of subclan restrictions, unlike all of the other ones we've had so far, only have effects that interact with Silver Thorns.>outright none of this gels with previous PM support except for the most generic like Brassie Bunny>already have one of the RRRs >counterblast heavy as fuck>unless the rest of the silver thorn support has swapping during battle effects (doubtful), completely ignores PMs gimmick of dancing around with units during battle to move to soul and recall from soul>Relatively weak power even still, even Liliane with her +10k is still capped at 22k on a normal circle.>Luquier's art that has her in the background.I'm just so confused. Doriane is hot though.
>>67286885>cb2Can we get some CC please?
>>67289000Did Demon Lords really need a 4th zone?
>>67286039>H-hyaki vouge will be the VRI told you faggots and nobody listened.
>>67286039>2(TWO) shadow VR'slol.
>>67289795That just says "units to watch for in the set" and doesn't specify what rarities they are going to be at yet then again them putting a Shadow Paladin Grade 2 (potentially a staple) as a VR seems right up to Bushi's alley of unrestrained Jewness
>>67286039Why not show the art?
>>67286829>Rest then into soul.why make it rest if it goes into soul?
>>67290014Stealth Megacolony buff.
>Guy at locals made a bet that "Yeah man Kai is totally going to beat Aichi this time">Jokingly say "yeah sure 100 bucks">He accepts.I'll just let him keep his money given that we know what happens in the next episodes.
>>67290122>talking about the anime at locals>other people are excited to see what's gonna happen at the tournament and see who's gonna do good or bad>"What are you guys talking about, we already know it's 4 episodes long and the last fight is gonna be Ibuki v Naoki">tfw they didn't know and I just spoiled it for them
>>67290122Take the 100 bucks but buy them a playset of draw PGs or a VR
>>67290161>playset of draw PGsIsnt that like 50 depending on the clan?
>>67290159I still wonder how naoki beats Ren
I'm still kinda shocked that the Great ended up being better than The End.DOTE is so damn Iconic but it ends up losing to the Overlord from one of the worst seasons of the anime.
>>67290122What you do is you take the 100 bucks, buy a playset of The End, and scribble Jobber on them with a sharpie, and give it back to him.
>>67286885>honest to god works better as just a G3 vanilla 35k beater on accel in a GBT deckThe hell, bushit?
>>67290232DOTE is a jobber in the original anime, only win was in that Shion montage
>>67289764Honestly you might just tech the 2G3s into a regular GBT deck
Even before the reboot it always felt like Bushi was scared to give PM things to make it work better. But then Granblue exists and by just taking basic actions in the game fuels their gimmicks.
>>67286264I had my numbers wrong, it was closer on 15 for gancelot stuff, deckbox, sleeves, and the storage box. But I also bought other things like imaginary gift sleeves, and oversleeves. Subtotal was 41, shipping was 20.
>>67290525It's almost as if cheap, multi attacking using a resource your opponent can't interact with is kind of a dumb design.
>>67290770>resource your opponent can't interact withDon't you have a soul saver to lose to and then whine about?
>>67290791They have a fair point in this case. Multi attacking clan that can also ghost large amounts of its units means they're less susceptible to removal and are harder to balance around. PM has a ton of toolboxing
>>67290923Except that PM attacks are way on the weaker side and have always been on the weaker side, pushing through a damage trigger is still hard as shit and most of their attacks even before that can be blocked with a 10k shield. If you're that concerned about getting styled on by multi attacks, then guard more in the early game so you can afford to take some in the later game.
>>67290997That's also saying nothing about PMs current biggest weakness, their shitty hand size. Because of previously mentioned weak swings, they still need to go into accel 1 in order for their shit to connect at all. Building soul requires dropping cards. Making your non-accel front rows hit needs a booster almost every time. They are an offensive deck with horrible defensive capabilities. If they can't beat you to the punch then you'll likely win just because they can't afford to guard a lot of the time.
>>67290997>Guard early to take more hits late.Hard to say when my opponents shit out 10+ attacks. it's pretty much "hit a defensive trigger or die"I was more talking about the dumb psudo loops they can do because of how the clan works, and no matter how small their hand is if they can stride they can win by shooting out 10+ attacks with no way to deal with it other than "lol kill them first"It's not OP, but the design there is either "the deck is disgustingly overpowered" or "the deck sucks" so I can see why Bushiroad is trying to find a way to balance the deck without making it loop multi attacks.Also happiness collecter is a thing, i've had the pleasure of seeing them loop it to go +5 in a single turn, because again, a deck that revolves around doing loops that your opponent can't do shit about is really lame.
>>67291352If you're going that slow in premium then you deserve to lose. The only way PM is killing you first stride is if you do literally nothing the whole game or they sack multiple crits.
>>67291352>complaining about PM being unfair>in premiumOh yeah, Ichikishima 2.0 and Green Katrina aren't the problem, the real menace is the PM deck. There's so much bullshit in premium in general and you focus on PM? And taking a more aggressive approach in the game rather than just durdling around is absolutely a valid counterstrategy.
>>67291438>>67291460I'm not saying it's OP or unfair, just that the clan design makes it broken or trash. it's currently trash outside of Songstress loop but even then that deck is probably too slow.Call it a personal gripe but if the entire deck identity is "loops effects to generate attacks/advantage" seems like dangerous ground to treat.But maybe i'm just salty about spending 2 years playing the game and playing against dumb palemoon stuff every sunday.
>>67291839Why does the next MC look so much like him
>>67288248>I want everyone watching this to see this utter shitter literally just called how a toolboxing graveyard deck functions against an unga bunga one is a fucking theoryIt's a theory, and a flawed one, that it can overpower melody>The only way they should be outvaluing you in between your own constant 30k+ potential +crit lanes is by your own poor judgement.Melody will start making those 30k+ lanes since their first g3 turn, Granblue will usually take a turn after that, and even then only your vg has a guaranteed crit, compared to BT post force 2. BT has overall more damage output through the game and easier pluses, simple as that.>>67288248>There's literally nothing to address in the first place as the one with the most Granblue was a Team tournament and the rest save for one had far less representation. The excuse makes itself, as it falls in line with my argument.Ok, so you're just ignoring the data when it doesn't fit your feelings then, the 193 VGCS also had Granblue as the most used clan and only got a 4th place. Your excuse "b-but people don't use it enough" doesn't make any sense when murakumo was even less used at the start of the release of AL-4 but still won events with less proportional representation than what GB had in the release of MGJ and made people switch to it over time. You're just a typical retard who thinks everyone else playing the game is an idiot but himself despite there being a large pool of data proving you wrong.
>>67292382Something about timelines
>>67292382I don't see it. His hair is Kais but with a bit more wave in the front.
>>67293373Wrong next main character. That's the game only guy. This is the real next anime main character
>>67291044Literally just use accel 2 with silver thorn as an engine
>>67294399>just use accel 2Nothing fucking hits with accel 2. The deck gets shut down by one damage trigger if you go to accel 2 even with GBT's field pump, and not just "oh, they can block with a 5k", I mean actually shut down. Alice and amaranth, the two units who used to be able to push through said damage trigger only hit for 20k on A2. Meanwhile, the silver thorn engine is too expensive on CBs to be running and there isn't enough room to be running what silver thorns we've seen so far.
Irina confirmed for PM's other RRR.
>>67295263What did it do before?
>>67295279ETB look at the top two cards, put a silver thorn from the top into the soul, rest on the deck. From hand not specific. Needs a silver thorn vanguard.
>bushiroad still fucking with us 2 years deep into a fucking reboot
>>67295588What are you going on about?
>[clan] support gets announced>lol buyout regardless of what actually gets shown Every time. Both OR and the Q4vAL4 Alice are sold out completely on tcgplayer.
>>67296112> the Q4vAL4So you mean from the set made to be bought out?
>>67296112>>[clan] support gets announced>>lol buyout regardless of what actually gets shownNever forget 30$ lava flows and 50$ nuvelles25$ photons and 20$ CBDs
>>67296196Yeah but there was stock of Alices from that set for a while, I actually thought about picking a few up but better judgment told me not to.
>>67296040He might be referring to Bushiroad bringing back sub-clan related bullshit>>67296280$25 Photons at least had a reason behind it since it was only available in a fucking trial deck at a single copy (or if you are lucky enough to pull the Legion Rare) and an obligatory reminder that Pre-G Era trial decks were a fucking mistake>$50 Nouvelle based on a picture of a Nouvelle lookalike in the Legend DeckThat's their fault thinking that the G-Unit Nouvelle is anything but generic
>>67296490>10 buck up in 24 hoursAnd it's not even a good card too
>Battle Sister Panettone finally available for purchaseHot damn, it's about time!>three weeks to shipShould've seen that coming =/
>>67295263It better not fucking CB
>>67297380>already knowing it will
CotDs are two Dark Irregulars cards from V-BT06Yellow Bolt (RRR)Grade 1 / 8000 PWR / 10000 SLD / BoostAuto (RC): When a Grade 2 or higher unit attacks, SC1, this unit gets +5000 PWR until the end of battle.Auto: When rode upon, SC2, if you soulcharge one or more Trigger units, draw a card.
Icicle Resistant (C)Grade 2 / 9000 PWR / 5000 SLD / InterceptAuto: At the end of the battle this unit retires from (GC) after it Intercepts, move this card into the Soul.Act [Soul]: Cost[Bind this card] Choose an unit and that unit gets +10000 PWR until the end of your turn.
>>67297861I can't believe Dark Irregulars finally got another good G1 after Doreen>>67297917LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THOSE ICICLESWill play 2 as a tech
>>67297861>When a Grade 2 or higher unit attacksFrom my limited japanese understanding I thought it was "when it attacks a grade 2 or higher". Could be wrong though. Still going by the description you posted isn't that really fucking strong? Like when any grade 2 attacks? Even on your opponent's turn? Hell you can actually have a good chance of firing NLK on the first ride with this guy in the deck if that's the case.
>>67297861>until the end of battleIs that supposed to be end of turn, or is it essentially saying "When this unit boosts a G2 or higher"?
>>67297984But dimension creeper exists>>67297996The word boost wasn't used so I highly doubt that
>>67297992Could be, we'll probably find out from a better translator since the way Bushiroad print texts now they usually imply when it is your Grade 2 or higher unit attacks. Even then since the effect only lasts during that battle it can't stack and become fuck huge>>67297996It specificly says battle instead of turn
>>67297917Melon22 strikes again with his love of thick girls.
>>67298026>The word boost wasn't used so I highly doubt thatSorry, I worded that poorly. What I meant was that the wording "this unit gets +5000 PWR until the end of battle" basically sounds like the power increase is only relevant if it was boosting a g2 or higher unit, else if it's not boosting anything it's power increase triggers and then just goes away.But that's not even taking into account using that effect during your opponent's turn.
>>67298026Dimension Creeper isn't good. It's a necessary evil
>almost fell for granblue shillingGood thing Romarios increased in price and I try my damned hardest to not buy into spikes on principal.
>>67288248>It helps a lot when the person i'm addressing doesn't actively lower my opinion of themNot really, rather it makes you look like you have no idea what you're talking about because anon actually provided sources while you just said "lol didn't read". And BT can absolutely punt GB out of the game if they get rolling fast enough.
Hundred Demons Sorcery, Thunder Burst Battalion■ You may cast this card only if you have a Size 3 Monster with "Yamigedo" on your field. ■ [Counter] Draw a card, and then choose and use one of the following effects. ・ [Stand] a «Hundred Demons» on your field. ・ Choose a monster on your field, you gain life equal to its size, and for this turn, the next time that card would be destroyed, nullify its destruction.IT'S HUNDRED DEMON SEASON
>>67297861Damn this is really good.It's a ride target and it's got an amazing rearguard skill too.
>>67297917I just realized, we don't have a dedicated Ice based clan.I'm kinda sad about that.
>>67300107> I try my damned hardest to not buy into spikes on principal.What
>>67297861DI is saved
Happiness. I won the auction for 4x Panettone. The deck will be complete.
>>67297917>>67297861DI shaping up to be the non meme set of this booster
15 Hours until the product stream:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbgZWtZWf7oWe should get a new thread rolling before then
>>67304283>CF zero in there
>>67303941>Going to an auction for cardsYou really wanted that shit didnt youI hope you didnt ovepay too much
>>67302545Fuck, this is really good. Hope we enter a Yamigedo meta.
>>67290041But MC doesnt negate the effect of rested units
>>67290014Probably cause they might get cards that call from soul as rest
>people don't buy enough product at our store so we have to skip certain sets because only a handful of people buy boosters.this sucks, man.
What decks dropped off the face of the planet recently? i.e stuff like Kagero going from T1 almost as good as bermuda to being nowhere to be found.I wanna find some cheap decks to build.
>>67305092If the cost is rest and the unit is already rested you can't pay it.
>>67305260Neo Nectar and Angel Feather are some good examples
>>67305260>What decks dropped off the face of the planet recently?In power or price?
>>67305290Both.I.e the deck doesn't top anymore so it's cheap
>>67305236>Mfw my store buys only a case of any given booster of VG stuff>Have to go behind the dcenes and pay up to be sure you wiol even get playsets of everything above C
>>67304184Along with who?
>still the best VR
>>67306081Dark Irregular cannot go better than this as every G3 is also buffed by No Life King existing
>>67302663What would even be it's name or nation?
>>67304593>>67304283>implying it wont shill EX by saying "if you want the normal game, play EX!"
>>67306423Star Gate is located in the Cray equivalent of Antarctica.
>>67304609>You really wanted that shit didnt youYes.>I hope you didnt ovepay too muchI'm sure I did, but I'm fine with that. After shipping costs, I paid $51 for the playset.
>>67303382I don't like it when I have to buy a card that increases in price because sellers think they can get more out of it. Admittedly, Romario's increase wasn't that bad in comparison, but I'm talking shit like CEO Amy going from a buck to 8, or Cosmo Wreath being 25 fucking dollars a pop now, or Venus Luquier's stride going up from 2 dollars to 10 just because Silver Thorns were shown in a stream even though it's a bad card.I do not like encouraging this behavior, so I don't buy things when this happens.
>>6730678751 isn't too bad. That's a little over 12 per card which is fine compared to stuff like 20 dollar Benijishi and Sunlight Garden's Guide when they just came out.
>>67306458Some level of cross promotion between Zero, EX and the TCG would do a lot of good
>>67307053>Some level of cross promotionWell theyre already putting up the OG anime in hopes that Zero will finally be out, so I guess theyre onto something
>>67307416I'm convinced they timed the OG anime episodes to the exact day/week of Zero's release
>>67307629Well that means it's still 1 and a half months away
>>673080011 and a half months isn't that bad and times it close to EX's release
How aqua force G2 stall in premiun?
>>67308820I'm no expert, but from where I can see you don't even need to G2 stall unless you're up against OTT or NN, because if you get to G3 first and have a heal in hand, that means you can g-guard on the opponents turn, meaning you'll have 2 cards in your g-zone and then be able to have Valeos's power lock online on your first stride. You can't do that if you stride first and he's only lethal 2nd stride.
>>67302545>>67304893It's a glorified shield. It's not what the deck needed, but will be played anyway. I'm still fucking pissed about the new claw and the additional focus on Hyakugan.
>>67298401>Soul +2 is not good now
>>67309285So what the ST G1 does but costing a CB?
>>67306779>>67302663>>67306423Shirayuki also has her army of zombies and demons in the snowy northern regions of the Dragon Empire
>>67311480Honestly it's just surprising that in a series with a fire dragon main rival there's no ice
>>67306423In terms of nation, you can toss it into Dark Zone or Zoo.
Aokawa VGCS (44 People): 1st) NG2nd) RP3rd) NG4th) DPClan Distribution: BT - 12 DP - 9 Narukami - 8 OTT - 7 RP, LJ - 6 Kagero, AqF - 3 GB, NG - 2 SP, GP, Murakumo, Nubatama, SB, DI, NN, GN - 1Kagoshima VGCS - VMC Qualifier (52 People):1st) RP2nd) NG3rd) BT4th) GBClan Distribution:GP, BT - 7RP, OTT, Narukami - 6LJ, DP, Kagero - 3 AqF, NG, PM, GB - 2 SP, Genesis, MC - 1>two different tournaments on release week of BT05 in Japan>two different Nova Grappler players enter>at least one of them hit top 4 in both tournamentsIs Nova Grappler secretly the best clan in standard?
>>67312033>RP is in>no narukamiOH NONONONONONO
>>67302663I could see it being a subclan in dark irregulars, controlling ice is pretty irregular and we have things like Blue Dust and now ice tits, but there needs to be something more than just "ice". An ice what? An army of humans? What kind of humans are they, hun-like? What else do they have?
>>67312112Psychics in the Darkzone seem to be tied to elements. Might not be specifically ice, but having something focused on the volatile humans with super powers in a land of demons could find a feel somewhere.
>>67312112>Is pretty irregular
Hi pastebin anon here, I updated it a little.
5 Hours until the product stream
What the fuck did bushiroad mean by this?6 attacks in force clans hello?
>>67313412It's complete RNG and adds even more resource costs to an already resource intensive 5 attack turn
>>67309285soul+2 for a cb is quite shit value
>>67307019>51 isn't too bad.Glad to hear it. I intended on winning that auction regardless of price, so it's nice to know I didn't do anything completely retarded.
>>67313759>soul+2 for a cb is quite shit value
>>67313877That gets you to G3s which are actually important and better than blind soul charge
>>67313090Can somebody give me a list of buddyfight releases to put on the pastebin?
>>67313903>A card that whifs half the time is better than a card that doesntOk buddy
>>67313759>>67310172In Standard DI the timing of your big soul charges is extremely important. Sure, you MIGHT draw a card once you ride on Yellow Bolt. Your soul will be equally as big as it would be after using creepers skills.But you just soul charged 2 cards in turn 2 when you could instead have had the option to soul charge whenever you want. You are losing Doreen and/or Dantarian combo reliability because you lose the Creeper in Soul. And you can't just play both him and creeper at 4. That doesn't work in current builds.What's the better plus here? Getting plus 1 on your second ride or getting a unit into your soul that scales exponentially with the size and quality of your board? >MFW standard babies cant even play their own format
>>67304283Do you even have any hopes?
>>67314051You don't need to CB1 to get Bolt's soulcharge and you get it every time your G2+ unit attacks, giving you better (FREE) value over time.
>>67314313>you get it every time your G2+ unit attacks>MFW standabortions cant read>When it attacks a grade 2 or greater unit,So it only goes off once per copy.And as a rear guard yellow bolt sucks. He's 8k vanilla in the backrow and only a 13k beat stick if he attacks a grade 2 or greater unit. So he can't attack G1 Accel circles with high numbers and he's at 8k during your opponents turn. Creeper is continously at 13k. Even Prisoner Beast is a better rear guard.I don't want to play a Grade 1 unit at 4 so that I MIGHT draw one card if I ride it on my first turn AND have the "luck" of getting a trigger into my soul with his SC, just to end up with 3 lackluster G1 rear guards that need to be in the front row to actually be useful.On top of that soul-charged yellow bolts are useless. They have no effects on their own, they don't trigger any other effects we know of and they aren't really compatible with Ruthven.
>>67314404>MFW standabortions cant readAuto (RC): When a Grade 2 or higher unit attacks, SC1, this unit gets +5000 PWR until the end of battle.
>>67314256I believe in ZERO
Did we ever get an updated version of this?
>>67314722When is it releasing in Japan? When in the West?
>>67314753We don't know yet but likely August/September globally