Small but vicious edition. > Resources (Rules, Lore and Warhammer Fantasy Role-play)WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/6FV6bSNQ> Alternative Warhammer Miniatures and Manufacturershttps://pastebin.com/2aqCz6fh> Warhammer Wikiswarhammerfb.wikia.com/wiki/Warhammer_Wikiwhfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page> Warhammer Video Gameshttps://pastebin.com/DU3DE1vvPreviously on WFG... >>66710164
The game I am currently running, which is definitely just set in a re-skinned Old World, my players are about to find themselves somewhere which is definitely not just a re-skinned Chaos Wastes.I want to design some encounters/puzzles that really extenuate how crazy everything is here that challenge both the character (through combat and skill checks) and the player (through strange rules the world opposes on them.A few I have already thought of:>You see a group of x doing something in the distance but when you approach, it seems like you are getting further away. When you reach them they turn out to just be the tiny Chaos Familiars models>You find another group of non-demons walking through the wastes. If you approach them they get further away, if you flee they get closer. If you try and attack you hit whatever is behind you and if you try to move forwards you move backwards.>The players ultimately will be walking to a mountain range they know separates the real world from the Wastes. Once they reach it I'll run an encounter of them trying to scale the mountain, really drag it out. Once they get over I'll describe the world they came from, once again drag it out and make them scale down. However once they reach the bottom they bump into a canvas. It is not the real world and it dissolves as a (couldn't be)Pink Horror reveals himself. Fucks with the players for a little bit (getting them to attack one another and all that jazz) while splitting down into Blue and Brimstone horrors. I have a couple others not quite as good as those three but I am really struggling for interesting encounters. Anyone have any ideas?
>>66739083Impossible geometry: ancient, long lost buildings, maybe temples or even entire cities, whose structures and layout cannot possible be that way. Basically steal that from Lovecraft. I think Malekith had the same experience when he got lost in some ancient temple in the chaos waste that housed the Circlet of Iron.
What is everyone working on? I’m doing some more gors for my 50 man blob. Did a filler but I realized I won’t need it.
>>66739250Started working on 3 more artillery crews and Valten in the train this morning.
>>66739250Have been working on scrubbing down a Dogs of War army this last week or so, got hit with a case mild food poisoning though, so I've not been able to do any work on that. Feeling a little better, might try and paint some skeletons though.
>>66739250Some 8 Vesperos Vendetta and a Mordheim Freelance Knight that will act as a mercenary captain
Reminder that the Judeo-Christian god doesn't exist in Warhammer or the real world.
>>66739364Shit. Get well. Nothing like being sick to make you appreciate the silent art of skeleton painting.
>>66739718Shit. Those still look fabulous today. Estalia is regalian
>>66739817Thanks mate, and indeed it does, so many skelemans, so much spoop.
>>66739250writing a timeline/worldbuilding for WHFB with a twist, where WHFB world is Mars, in future, several thousand years after current day, with Earth gone from the solar system and this physical world in general for several thousand yearsand Old Ones are the mix of humans + igva/human hybrids (creatures from that book)t. neo-druidic happyclappy christeo-pagan treefucker
>>66739250Stripping mengil and 7 manflayers (wish I could get hold of 2 more without paying a fortune)Constructing some corsairs and a war hydra ready for painting and kitbashing a Master on Pegasus/Cold One that's interchangeable
So on the web i read that Whip of Agony for DE got buffed in 7th edition to include +1A and armour piercing, can anyone tell me where I would find that?
>>66739250>gors for my 50 man blobNice.Be sure to put a Beast Banner in there for extra shredding.
>>66739950Post photos of your delf minis anon.
I can't seem to get the link in the pastebin for the novels to work, am I missing something or am I just retarded
>>66740144Change M3G4 <dot> EnZee to mega.nz
>>66740144A bit of both anon. it's a mega.nz address, it's just coded to avoid it being picked up on and the pastebin page getting deleted or something.
What do people think of WAP 9th? Was kinda disappointed when I found out this was being played locally but it mightn't be all bad.
>>66739824What can you expect of the Tileans (apart from intrigue, good food and music) but a good fashion sense?
Anyone here read Grudge Bearer? How long is the part where dwarfs fight against chaos dwarfs?
would you trust a skaven?
Can Daemons and Daemon Princes change their shape? If I wanted to go incognito as one, could I?
>>66741158some daemons can change form some and can cast illusions on mortals, but form change is from monstrous to monstrous most oftendaemon princes - never saw such example, I suppose slaaneshi ones can cast illusionsalso they can posess mortals or something close to thatthe raven in the pic is a Lord of Change greater daemon
>>66740776only if he wants me to kill his superior
>>66741233>that bird is the smartest and most magically skilled thing on its ContinentThat's got to fuck with the advisers' head having it over his shoulder all day
>>66739918shit doesn't make sense, but the world of warhammer being linked to mars is weirdly fitting in more than one way
>>66741997yeah, so far the only problem is Mars having about 38% of the Earth's gravity pull (acceleration speed)while warhammer world has same gravitational pull as Earth>>66741997https://pastebin.com/ekQCaRFqsome notes on the timeline
>>66742193doesn't sound like warhammer at all, dude
>>66742272it ends with the Great War against Chaos in IRL years 2600-2800then there are several thousand years until Sigmarwhat doesn't fit exactly?
>>66742193>2300-2400 - “thanks” to the “work” of Antichrist society, nature elementals have to leave the physical dimension of Earth, with few exceptions of the lava elementals and elementals of the highest parts of the atmosphere many elementals come to inhabit Mars, the planet-spirit of the long ruined world returning and welcoming them. What the fuck am I reading.
>>66742400some notes about>it's WHFB setting being part of the universal "setting" described in the "Rose of the World" book by Daniil Andreev, including some parts from therethe end result is everything looking same as vanilla WHFB, eventually - after Great War against Chaos ruins almost all of the advanced technology but with actually good explanation about polar gates, magic, gods, spirits, why there are humans and humanlike races etcor maybe its no better then vanilla explanation, but at least it's better lore then the 9th age hehe
>>66740054They're not all built yet, maybe later. Here are the pre stripped mengils from a time before nuln oil it seems
>>66742356>sigmaryoure the same anon from last thread right? just fuck off to the age of soi thread and stop bothering us you fuck
IT BEGINS >gave me a bunch of slotta rounds instead of squaresFUCK
>>66742792the fugg you talk about? I'm talking about Sigmar aka the guy with the hardest balls and biggest heart on the planet, founder of the Empire, who vanished somewhere and after some time was venerated as another god in the human pantheon
>>66742356>>66742792oh sorry i thought you wete talking about age of sigmar. in thay case i accuse you of being the mental guy who believes in irl daemons and whatnot and advise you to have sex
>>66742843Are those recasts? They don't look bad at all
>>66742924Nope, theyre from the new Impact miniatures kickstarter, theyre heartbreaker orcs by Kev Adams. They just sell them in resin now instead of metal, for some reason.https://www.impactminiatures.com/index.php?option=heartbreaker
>>66742879allright thenbtw, having sex didn't "cure my condition", that included having sex several times a day (but only with one woman)maybe I've missed some specifics, could you provide them?otherwise, we could already consider it incurable and leave it at that
>>66742712>>66742742Thanks anon, I will wait for more. I would say that they look fine in general, but faces feel too flat colored.
>>66739250cozy anon, I'm waiting for my rat ogres posted last thread's bases to dry>>66724699In the meantime I almost finished a quick rat. Gonna get them mordheim ready one day>>66742742a time of thick deeds, and Brows like mountains. They will look grand anon once given new life>>66742843nice, bannerorc mvp. you can always order some square slots while you paint em, or just cut the slots away.
So I got the new Liber Chaotica today and I must say I'm a bit disappointed that all the classic artwork from the 3rd edition has been replaced with new artwork from the 7th and 8th editions.
>>66743329Quintessential soul vs sõy.
>>66743329Liber Chaotica is not Realm of Chaos. I think you're confused.
REMOVE KYAZAK remove kyazakyou are worst kurgan. you are the kurgan idiot you are the kurgan smell. return to troll contray. to our troll contry cousins you may come our contry. you may live in the bear pit….ahahahaha ,norsca we will never forgeve you. svolich rascal FUck but fuck asshole kurgan stink norsca blyad blyad..kyazak genocide best day of my life. take a bath of dead kyazak..ahahahahahNORSCA WE WILL GET YOU!! do not forget great war against chaos .Norsca we kill the everchosen, Norsca return to your precious Chaos waste….hahahahaha idiot kurgan and norscan smell so bad..wow i can smell it. REMOVE KYAZAK FROM THE PREMISES. you will get caught. Kislev+Empire+gospodar+ungol=kill norsca…you will great war/ tzar boris alive in kislev, tzar boris making dance of kislev . fast dance boris kislev. we are rich and have cannon now hahahaha ha because of boris… you are ppoor stink kurgan… you live in a hovel hahahaha, you live in a yurtaTzar Boris alive numbr one #1 in kislev ….fuck the Chaos waste ,..FUCKk ashol kurgan no good i spit in the mouth eye of ur chaos and everchosen. Boris aliv and real strong tzar kill all the kyazak farm aminal with bear magic now we the kislev rule .dog of the zoo khorn fukc pig and lay egg this egg hatch and norsca wa;s born. stupid baby form the eggn give bak our clay we will crush u lik a skull of pig. Kislev greattst countrey
>>66743513I thought kyazak were Norscan not Kurgan.
>>66743318>>66742924Better pic, they're fantastic. Just gotta clean the resin flash, which kinda sucks. Considering I paid 50 bucks for all this i dont even care
>>66743486No, I'm comparing the copy I have on my lap with the old pdf. It seems that it's only the old Ian Miller (and maybe Ackland, I don't recognize his style) artworks that have been changed.
>>66743647What, like the Bastion Stair and Vale of Creatures and such?Didn't they rerelease Slaves to Darkness recently too? Did they replace the same pieces in that?
>>66743558'Kyazak' is a catchall term for outlaws and hostile tribes, going by RotIQ.
>>66743735I'm not sure, I wasn't looking at the names, but for example there's no more Inevitable City or Floating Castle or pic related.
>>66743570They look really very nice! Nice bit of kit right there.
>>66743012Cheers, I'm not sure my list will be any good (never played fantasy) but some guys in my group did and wanted to give 7e a go so I'm throwing all the dark elf stuff I've got together to try it out
>>66742843Can't you just cut them off and glue the models on square bases like normal?
Edge elf bump.
>implying you will ever get close to Middenheim, Everfailure
>>66746540Who's the muscley guy
>>66747026You don't recognize our lord and savior?
>>66747185Next in the painting box
>>66747278I've got a Valten on horse, not his exalted state, but still a very nice model. I want to get foot Valten and Exalted next, but that will take time.
>>66747026Valten during Storm of Chaos.
anyone been talkin' 'bout chaos 'round these parts? i got a big pasta on my hip an' im hot as a nine dicked dog to use it
>>66747556I got lucky, I got the foot and the exalted as parts of a nice lot
>>66747563it looks like chaosfag(s) was/were bullied into silencethanks to this based poll I suppose:https://www.strawpoll.me/18109122/rand some people reflecting on the nature of "canon"---------------Canon resides where men believe it resides. No more and no less.- So canon is a shitposter's trick?A shitpost on an imageboard, yes, but shitposts can annoy. And ofttimes a very small shitposter can create a very large amount of shitposts.
Can anyone give me the image of a mess that is Empires hierarchy? I wanna untangle that spaghetti
>>66747637Nah. You are just retarded.
>>66739773Actually, he does. Luthor Huss' novel features an angel.
Nth for based oldhammer
How do people make their own movement trays?
>>66747766Back when I didn't multibase everything I used metal sheets and magnets under the bases.
Hello.Just here to shill our nice comfy wargaming server. We have a strong historical emphasis but also have active fantasy and scifi tabletop players. We have some former WHFB players that switched to KoW but the lore is still string in this oneAlso stuff like movie stream and painting competitions. Do you want to know more?https://discord.gg/R3RYbm5
>>66739250Working on some ghosts while I work up the courage to work on my keeper of secrets
>>66747766Cereal boxes and empty sprue, cut to size as appropriate.
>>66747563>T3 cavalrylaughing chaos knights.jpg
>>66747592Man, images of large armies are always so rad.My armies never end up growing very large.
WIP, but I got no bases.
>>66731487Hey clownfriend! Hows the larping? Do any warhammer larp lately?
Im finishing up my 10 tzeentch knights. Just a few more shields details on the others and ill be done.
>>66749271Banner looks great, the highlights are a tab thick though, and those bones could do with some washes.
>>66749094What are those armored horses from?Third party?
>>66749740Those armoured horses are high dragon princes, they got a plastic kit in 7th edition I believe.
>>66749740>>66750494Yeah dragon princes, I slapped some dark eldar scourge wings on em and called em Dark Pegasus
>>66750494>>66750563Ah that makes sense, i assumed they were dark elves.
>dragon prince>ride a horse
>>66747766I use corrugated cardboard, 1mm thick max. Amazon packages are too thick, for instance.A board piece the size of your unit + 1cm in width and length, then all around, two layers of 5mm wide bands, use painter's tape to cover the sizes, a layer of PVA glue, then paint and texture the top of the bands all around. It's easy, cheap and can be made in any shape or size.At some point I thought of doing movement trays for skirmishers but that was just too much work.
My 40 Seaguard arrived today. This is going to be a busy weekend ...
I want to finish painting this Bowmen I left undone, but...I only have one flesh paint, Kislev Flesh. I know from experience it'll look thick and ugly on its own. Any idea of what combination of paints i could use to make a knockoff base flesh color?
>>66750720Meanwhile dreadlady flies around on a dragon.
How to open the link in the novel pastbin on mobile? Am retarded, thought putting a . on <dot> was enough but nope
>>66749271>>66749288Looking grand anon, I hope they will be getting a base>>66751221Disgustingly elf, get painting! , I’m going to work on finishing my Rogres today>>66752368Hey anon, use a wet pallete with the flesh then go for Reikland flesh shade . Alternatively I used ushabti bone as a base skin tone for these 2 rogres, then went with a reikland shade for one and a seraphim sepia for the second.
>>66753240Did you change it into "mega.nz" ?
>>66753318>>66752368Still works for skin quite well, looks a tad unhealthy but aren’t peasants anyway?>>66753240Enzee. = .nz.
Can anyone give me a hand? I need some sculpting tips.See these 3 posts I made on /wipg/>>66753561>>66753584>>66753652
>>66748989Just for (You) anon.
>>66753675Shit anon you are already far beyond me at green stuff fu, can’t help.>>66753318>>66743318Fin! Except for dull coating them all that is. Aaa
>>66750720>Only in the thick of battle does a Dragon Prince's true character emerge. Hauteur gives way to determination; arrogance to courage. Gone is the aloof noble who disdains the company of all save his own kin. In his place rides a warrior who would die without hesitation if his sacrifice would save but one of Ulthuan's people. Only when the battle-light fades from the Dragon Prince's eyes does the aspect of the Caledorian noble slide back into place. Callous pride returns, leaving those who saw the selfless hero behind the mask to question if he ever truly existed at all.>>66753102And so can high elf lords.
>>66753240Speaking of does anyone have any recs? I've read the entire thanqol and head taker series as well as the warrior priest and reiksmarshall books books and enjoyed it allPreferably not chaos perspective
>>66755991Seems like you'll enjoy anything. Gotrek and Felix is a must-read for warhammer. You may as well read the books about factions that interest you.
Any fellow Chorf fans out there backing the new kickstarter?https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dancingyakminiatures/infernal-chaos-dwarfs-and-hobgoblins-miniaturesI'm super excited to get a few. I'm going to have a hard time justifying some of it but going to get a few of them at least.
Do orcs rape?
>>66756189Not since the earliest editions. Orcs are a one-sex race and only have their genitals for pissing.
Preparing for the next WFRP session.The Dwarwes have a tradition of verbal duel which name I do not remember. I want to use it next sesion. Its beginnings are found in mine conflicts occuring when two groups of dwarves were digging into the same vein of ore.Khazalid is an ancient language, most of it's words over the centuries took on many meanings depending on the intonation and context of the sentence. Using this feature of their language, the Dwarws start insult each other while sounding like a mere exchange of opinions for an outside listener, eg "The news tells us that your mother likes the taste of Ulthuann sausages". The winner is the one who will make his opponent rage .I'm not good at inventing such stuff on the fly so help me come up with some dwarven insults. The team of players consists of 3 men and 1 Slayer.Also, does anyone know how this habit is called? I remember reading about it on some wiki and now I can not find it.
>>66756189No, but it's implied obliquely that goblins have enough of an understanding of sex to sexually torture people (probably with objects) in front of other captives.
>>66750720> Black Orcs> Actually just darker green
>chaos knights>don't have any fiefdoms
Make up a past time unique to Warhammer or give a real one a Warhammer twist:Snotling Baiting:One of the many permutations on canine bloodsport. A large dog, typically a mastiff, is placed into a pit into which unarmed snotlings are released. Time, kill count, and dog weight are used to determine victory. Perhaps less popular than rat baiting, if only because snotlings are harder to come by without 'farming' them, a practice illegal in some jurisdictions. Especially talented dogs will often make their owner money in breeding rights or outright sale, as greenskin hatred is a valued trait in a war dog.
>>66757398Skink punting. Throw a skink of the cliff! Popular entertainment in Karond Kar cruises.
>>66739339Ever get any strange looks when painting on the train? Weird reactions by normies?
>>66758266Sometimes I got questions or compliments about it but people seems more curious than judgmental.I was pretty tired this morning so I grabbed the box with these guys rather than the box with Valten.
>>66757398Abusing snotlings is a time-honoured pastime.#BringBackTraditionalSnotball
>>66755655[angry pretend dragon noises]
>>66757398Cheese chasing. In the Moot it is tradition to roll a cheese downhill as many halflings chase after it. Its a fierce fight and a spectacle to behold (from a safe distance) as a bunch of hungry halfling try to get their hands on the cheese before their rivals. Cheating and underhanded tactics are common, and its not uncommom to end in a brawl!
>>66756752It comes from the novel "The Doom of Dragonback" but the actual practice isn't named, just mentioned and described as it happens in the mineshaft where the scene takes place. it's in the first chapter, pages 18-24. Should be in the novel archive I think. Sorry I couldn't be more help but reviewing that section should hopefully give you an idea or two what to call it.
>>66757398shin kicking. dwarves love them a good shinkicking. take turns to kick each other in the shins as hard as you can, untill one of you shouts "sufficient!" and thereby loseskilsevites love them a good hunt. or, once a year, they get especially drunk, roll themselves in butter and fight village agains village. like a team deathmatch, but for fun.the norsemen have a fun tradition that once a year, they all get up extra early and drown the last one to wake up into the sea of claws as a sacrifice.elves do a goose throwing competition. they fashion huge darts in the form of geese (or swans) and play darts with those.
Dark Elves for WFRP 4E, r8/h8Characteristics:>same as other ElvesSkills:>Cool, Endurance, Intimidate, Language (Eltharin), Leadership, Melee (Basic), Navigation, Outdoor Survival, Perception, Ranged (Crossbow), Sail, SwimTalents:>Acute Sense (Sight), Coolheaded or Hardy, Night Vision, Old Salt or Second Sight, Read/Write
>>66757398There's a game called 'Smell the Gauntlet' mentioned in Bretonnian lore I always wondered about. Might as well make up rules for it.Smell the Gauntlet is like all peasant games, extremely simple. In theory the gauntlet-runner could be bare-handed, though for best effect they should at least wear a sturdy leather work-glove with weights, or a crude pig iron 'gauntlet.' The gauntlet-runner must keep his hand raised horizontally at all times, and is not allowed to move his arm. The snifters must chase after him, attempting to press their nose to his gauntlet. The first to do so is the winner, and if the gauntlet-runner can keep them all at bay for the allotted amount of time, he wins.The smelling of the gauntlet is loosely based on the noble and pious practice of a knight swearing his allegiance to a lord to kiss his hand while they are both in full battle regalia - to insipid peasants, it is crude fun to try and smell the gauntlet. The simplicity of the game belies its danger - the gauntlet runner, being unable to move his arm, must keep it level while running in whatever direction he may manage to keep away from his fellows, even backwards. And more than one game has ended in a gauntlet runner instinctively trying to shove away his pursuers, only to break noses or teeth.
>>66759264Is Torture not a skill in 4e? It seems to be a legitimate hobby in druchii society, going by Malus's word.
>>66759535I assume 'smell the gauntlet' is supposed to be more of a 'circle game' style prank except it involves punching peasants in the face with an armoured fist.A la https://youtu.be/v1ycpc0vbZc
>>66759902Whoops, wrong link.https://youtu.be/18DLup44_pg
>>66739083Decaying forests of not!nurgleMonoliths, obelisks and other statues of worship to the not! chaos godsHuge armies clashing in the far distanceDistant siege of an old dwarven citadel, the players cannot see who the defenders are until they get within a distance that risks an encounter with the besiegers. The defenders are other not!chaos warriors.A nutcase hermit wizard who got lost in the wastes, but has so far resisted their influence, although at the cost of his sanity.
>>66759535I actually really like that, it even manages to give a nod to the divide between the noble and serf cultures. My own idea was basically that you put something in a gauntlet and the other player had to guess what it was; the loser had to shove their hand in the gauntlet. So basically it would be a balance between something gross enough that it'd be funny if the loser had to stick their hand in it, but obscure enough that it was unlikely to be guessed.
>>66739250Raging Heroes Slaanesh. These things are so fragile that my paint brush strokes are improving just because of how carefully I have to hold my electric file and knife while prepping and assembling.
>>66742543Or maybe just not have 40krap in Fantasy outside of some randomly showing up in Chaos warbands without explanation because its fun. Also, fuck off, T9A lore is fine. Its no worse than any other setting, and far better than 40k and AoS.
Let's talk about who is the best god and why is it the horned rat
>>66742937Impact does resin, Knightmare does metal. Both carry products from the same sculptors, sometimes even the same sculpts. Knightmare has the advantage of Tony Ackland’s approval. They get to make the only Malice Daemon minis.
>>66743329Because GW shit the bed on copyright, then shit it again trying to clean the shit, so they don’t own any Ackland designs or art and can never publish them.
>>66756189They did until 4e when 40k influence made them a race of fungus females who reproduce by dying. Before that they raped captives, as well as had relations with tribes of humans and half-orcs that shared their lands.
>>66757279They fight for their own land in the Warp, an extension of the halls of their ancestors.
Is this the first artwork for Dark Elves?
>>66760691t9a is DnD, not warhammer fantasyalso, no 40k shit in my WHFB with a twist
>>66760691and yes, t9a is better then 40k and AoS
I was just fucking around in Age of Reckoning and saw this thing, it has to be the most pathetic looking Hellcannon ever.
>>66761176The face of your character says it all.
>>66759264I think it's pretty good, but don't see why dark elves would get "Hardy" instead than "Savy". Your logic is probably because dark elves kill each other more. But to me that doesn't mean that they can take more punches.
>>66742937Resin weighs less so it's cheaper to ship.
>>66761176>hellfire cannonDifferent thing.Also, how the hell are you playing AOR?
>>66761524Private servers have been running for years.
>>66761382My reasoning is that Wood Elves get it, and Dark Elves live in a similarly hostile shithole. My impression of the Druchii is a bit like Sparta, but I may be wrong.
>>66747563>>66747637Tbh it's not even an issue of hating chaos or chaosfags. There's fags for about every faction, and we don't need to hate chaos itself. The shitposter(s) (probably literally one guy pretending to be carnac) don't actually give two shits about the faction or enjoying it. It's shitposting. I know actual bonafide chaosfags who hate ET's garbage and don't think Chaos is some unbeatable mary sue with a gigantic cock cucking everybody. That's a shitpost and if any other faction does the trick at a given time the shitposters will do it too.Remember for the longest time the actual Carnac anon shitposted for TAU because at that time they were annoying people.
>>66761584Is return of reckoning any good?
>>66756158The models are ugly and not much cheaper than just buying actual Perry chorfs from eBay.
Is there anywhere I can read about Old!Lore (4e and earlier) without trawling through Army Books?
>>66747683The Law Gods also had nephilim as their "daemons".
>>66761595They are often compared to Sparta. Though I got the impression that a lot, if not most of them, live in cities and fortresses. So rather urban.
>>66761597>(probably literally one guy pretending to be carnac)Just because you keep calling me Carnac doesn't mean I pretend to be anyone.
>>66761880He's talking to me, not you. Get out of here.
>>66761918Sorry fellow Carnac.
>>66761785Maybe instead of "Coolheaded or Hardy", maybe "Savvy or Hardy"? It creates a nice divide between the ones that live in cities and those that go out and fight monsters/take slaves.
>no one in my area plays fantasy>everyone plays sigmar >no one wants to learn fantasy with me as they're all used to sigmar This is the worst timeline
>>66761880>>66761918>>66761951What the Fuck? If you want act like me do it right
>>66762085Don't trust him, he's a Carnac.
>>66762062Try introducing them to the RPG, or the various smaller-scale adventures and games WFB had in White Dwarves and the like. Offering what AoS doesn't have is a great way to get anyone into something else.
>>66761970Instead of Coolheaded? Maybe.
>>66761024Space Marines showing up was just part of the silliness Chaos is supposed to have. But the key is they are not supposed to have attention called to them. Much like Amazons having laser guns, its just a thing that exists and is considered no more strange than anything else around them, if not considerably less strange.Of course this is from the era where a Space Marine just looked like a swoll knight with a handgun that’s only slightly better than Dwarf tech, and not a 12 foot tall demigod with a magic handmachinegun that can blow holes in a fucking mountain.
>>66761753Pre-4e lore only existed in the core rulebooks and campaigns. There was no dedicated army books back then. The early White Dwarf had stuff. So did Dragon Magazine. Realm Of Chaos was originally just magazine articles for example. Honestly, prior to 4e lore was pretty light. There was no hard canon, just plot hooks for small adventures for your dudes no matter what they were to go fuck around doing. Like early D&D campaign modules. Most don’t have a setting, they’re just multi-part adventures that work as standalones as well.
>>66762062At least they play Sigmar. Even that died here. 40k is on its way out too. X-Wing 2.0, and MtG are all that’s left. There’s a D&D club, but its on the condition you agree to be on camera for streams and do podcasts.
>>66762785>So did Dragon MagazineNot official GW fluff.>>66762785>Realm Of Chaos was originally just magazine articles for example.Not true.
>>66762873>Not official GW fluff.Written by GW writers, and with the copyright of Games Workshop. Just like how the D&D stuff that used to be published in White Dwarf is canon to D&D.
>>66762899>Written by GW writers, and with the copyright of Games Workshop.Show me an example of an article written by a GW writer.
>>66757398Making snotlings fight to the death might make for a good bloodsport, too.
>>66763221I can’t show you an example of any old Dragon Magazine articles, or even White Dwarf for that matter, because I don’t have any downloaded and haven’t seen links for a while for either one. I also don’t owe you jack fucking shit. This isn’t some argument between the two of us, this is me telling a person that they can find early Warhammer stuff in the two big game magazines from the time and you deciding to make the conversation about yourself and your continuity autism from editions of the game that had no continuity anyway, as I literally stated in the original response. Have you even worked on a model or written your own lore this year? Because from what I can tell, an anon has showed up in the last few months with only a modern and officially stamped knowledge of Warhammer who only wants to argue about their vision of what the setting is/should be and quibbles over stupid shit while offering neither constructive conversation now help for others. Now, that wouldn’t happen to be lil’ old you, would it?
>>66763645>This isn’t some argument between the two of us, this is me telling a person that they can find early Warhammer stuff in the two big game magazines from the time and you deciding to make the conversation about yourself and your continuity autism from editions of the game that had no continuity anyway, as I literally stated in the original response. Well no, you told that person that he can find Warhammer lore(sic) in Dragon Magazine, which is flat out wrong since GW wouldn't have given content to a competing magazine when they had their own. Dragon Magazine might have had Warhammer content but calling it lore(sic) is stupid, it's fanfiction at best. I also don't know what you mean by continuity, this is not a story, this is a setting. A setting owned and developed by GW. Dragon Magazine also had fluff for female Space Marines but that sure as hell isn't endorsed by GW.>Have you even worked on a model or written your own lore this year? Yeah, I stripped two Death Rockets, their crew and a Chaos Dwarf hero with acetone today.>Because from what I can tell, an anon has showed up in the last few months with only a modern and officially stamped knowledge of Warhammer who only wants to argue about their vision of what the setting is/should be and quibbles over stupid shit while offering neither constructive conversation now help for others. Now, that wouldn’t happen to be lil’ old you, would it?>implying there's only one person arguing about fluff here
>>66763864That was under the old management. Back when White Dwarf had articles about products that were rivals to GW’s own, just because the editor, who was literally 50% owner of the entire company, liked those products. Games Workshop put articles in Dragon because White Dwarf wasn’t one of their main products, it was just a silly little rag put out by the company owner to talk about what he liked and he didn’t have to pay to put GW ads on. By the same token, they advertised their products through Dragon Magazine articles about campaigns and short stories. Your argument that it is “fanfiction” makes no sense. The guy who created Warhammer, and the guy who owned half the company, and the guy who wrote most of the rules, all wrote articles. That’s almost everyone who had anything to do with the game at the time. GW had rules for Ultramarine dancing competitions in that same era. Mentioning female Space Marine conversions does not invalidate Dragon articles, because the whole game was silly nonsense back then.
>>66764490an era of soul, not sõy
>>66757187Old lore they used to be literally black
>>66764582Also grey. According to Priestley.
>>66764490>GW had rules for Ultramarine dancing competitions in that same eraNo it didn't. You're just digging yourself deeper. The Dance Steps article wasn't written by GW. You still haven't offered any proof that Dragon Magazine ever had content written by GW writers, even though the issues can be found online. White Dwarf was not just a "silly little rag", it was GW's own magazine that they used for advertisements and game rules for their own products.
>>66756752Thorgrim and Belagar have one at some stage but I cant remember where its written
There's also the 'grudge match' ritual, where two dwarfs tie their beards together and fight to the death to resolve existing grudges between them/their clans.
I need dark fantasy music but not something that will make my table fall asleep and not strictly horror music since they're just in the city
>>66764788Well excuse me for not knowing all the fine details of the inferior Warhammer setting. I don’t owe you any proof, m8. I mentioned to an anon who asked about old lore that there’s GW articles containing lore snippets in old issues of Dragon. I’m not spoonfeeding you it considering I didn’t offer it to that anon in the first place either. White Dwarf had everything, and GW advertised in everyone’s rags too. White Dwarf didn’t exclusively promote GW products until 1988. Warhammer was mostly published in Citadel Journal, whereas White Dwarf was about the entire games market and culture.
>>66765452Try the Left 4 Dead ambience music.
>>66765487I'm looking for more like thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv0gFlcD_KQ
>>66765638Some tracks from the Fable games may suit your needs, though that score always trended whimsical.
I used to play WFRP about two years back. GM ruined it and the Dark Heresy campaign he ran by being an asshat and ignoring rules and shit, as well as by making ***literally*** everything about the undead because (as I would later find out) he's a necrophile. Tell ya what though, bad GM or not, I fucking love the system. I wish my friends would stop sucking 5e's dick and play a campaign with me.
>>66738978where do I find Warhammer Fantasy Recasters? I want to get into this hobby but it just seems excessively expensive and all the cheap stuff is 40k
>>66765473>>66764788>>66764490>>66763864>>66763645>>66763221>>66762899critical lack of pussy
>>66766975I know you are but what am I?
>>66739250rate my kangzbanner is still WIP
Anyone have that Warhammer AoR collector's art download?
>>66767280All Kangs are good kangz.I'd go in with an exacto and carefully scrape off those mold lines,Then touch up where you scraped, and give everything (sand included) a light drybrush with a yellowy off white,Then a light sepia wash to blend lineworkOther than that, they're fine.
>>66738978You're all tremendous faggots.Have a pleasant day.
ultimate question for anyone brave enough to answerWho is the Darklord?And where is the proof?
>>66762714I'd feel a bit cheated if that was the mutation Chaos gave me. He has a fucking broom for a hand.
>>66751221I really hope they re-re-release Island of Blood. It was a hell of a set.
>>66762062>nobody in my area plays sigmar>my LFGS even dropped GW products because sigmar doesn't sell at all>everyone play KoW>lots of third party minisBest timeline
>>66770103The best to date, in my opinion. If you keep an eye on eBay you can find some good deals sometimes. I found 5 Seaguard for 4 bucks, so I bought a whole bunch in one go.
>>66767280it's good clean line work anon, as >>66768112has covered, If you were to drybrush very lightly onto the shields iut would give a look of the paint scratching away
>>66761753Behold my incomplete and contradictory Oldhammer timeline!https://pastebin.com/qfVn6UaUStill need to finish reading the 4e army books and reexamine the 3rd edition rulebook dates.
Need a colour scheme for my predominantly corsair dark elf force
>>66773602>>66773608Yeah I was thinking Red, how does blood God look over Metalics?
So any WFRP DMs make a Knights of the White Wolf career?
>>66759788Lore (Torture) is a skill, I believe witch hunters start with it. It doesn’t give explicit rules for its use, but rolling it against cool or endurance seems sensible enough.
>>66773891Take Knight Panther, replace Dealmaker and Etiquette with Menacing and Stout-Hearted, make SWG (Two-handed) mandatory, done.
>>66766833Geography is a bitch. I’ve just had a player drop out of my WFRP campaign, so I’m a WFRP GM looking for another player, but it’s in person, so can’t offer it to random internet anons.
got another one done!
Any WAP players out there?I say this because the beastmen update just dropped and u would like to hear your thoughts
>>66775009Nice work on that rust.
>>66766889Try looking for AoS recasters Also this is why GW killed fantasy
>>66772788>it's the "Karl Franz is a fucking idiot and dies impotently" timeline
>>66775171Yeah, the update is garbage check the discord. Theres a few people writing about it, Mathias said hes gonna do another update.
>>66775253>Also this is why GW killed fantasyJew-W killed Warhammer with larcenous pricing, shit 'pay-to-win' rules updates, bad model quality, bad lore, and a constant trend of selling the customer less at a lower quality for more money.
>>66766889Aliexpress and search up daemonette,click on the seller. They keep getting taken down so you'll need to look around a bit though
>>66777633By Horned One!
>>66776561Cool it with the anti-semitic remarks.
>lore describes the Empire as an unimaginably vast, sprawling nation>barely takes up 1/5 of the old world >nehekara, the badlands, the dark lands, the ogre kingdoms and Araby all way bigger than it >most empire land is beastmen infested woods Why do they keep doing this? And why didn’t they just have the empire encompass all the human nations? Tilea, estalia, bretonnia and Kislev are useless as independent factions and should have been rolled into the empire of man.
>>66778261I agree. I also think that based Karl should be the leader of all humanity and the number one fear of the chaos faggots. He should go on a great crusade into the chaos wastes kill all the chaos faggots there and establish a kingdom that he rules as the immortal emperor.
>>66778261I too love the Imperium of Sigmar! It is sad that they recently stopped producing the Kislev Firstborn models, and I have to kitbash Bretonnian Riders. But I'm very excited for Estalians of Battle updates and I love the new Primaris of War additions to our beloved Knightmarines.
>>66778477What makes you think this is bait? These are legitimate lore concerns. Tilea and estalia are pretty much just historical factions dropped into a fantasy world but with no fantasy elements of their own. They’re hardly fleshed out and all they’re good for is merc companies. For as important as Kislev is to the setting, they’re treated just as an extension of the empire in all but name. Bretonnia could have been great but they did nothing with it. You could have all these nations rolled into one empire and absolutely nothing of value would be lost. Humans are supposed to be the dominant power of the world after the golden ages of elves and dwarfs ended, but all we got were literal copy pastes of historicals because the writers are too lazy to come up with anything original
>>66778669But what your suggesting doesn't actually fix the problems that you bring up. It just buries them down under a larger Imperium-style Empire where it isn't as glaring if Bretonnians don't get all the same models as the Empire, in the same way no one's crying about the Tallarn not getting everything that by default is Cadian-themed.
>>66749168Hey hey. Nothing too new, as my WHLARP group won't have a game till late summer. Finished props for the Nuln engineer plot NPC, and finishing up some clothes now.
>>66775009the pink nose makes skaven look less threateninglooks very good!
You cunts using contrast paints or are you also done with GW in that regard too.
>>66778669Is Kislev important to anyone besides bear cavalry idiots and Winged Hussar fags?
>>66782008I still use Citadel paints but won't be using contrast. The results don't look great in my opinion, many of the examples shown by GW themselves look quite patchy to me.
>>66782362It's important to those who care about it. I can relate.
>>66782362They are also a good roadblock to the average chaos incursion.
>>66772788you need to put it in a spreadsheet and color code entries by edition introduced
>>66782008Fucked if I know, holding out to see what the general public can do with them.
>>66739339>>66739718I'm very curious, how? Long trip or just a shorter one you've managed to make it work in?
Is there a guideline on what a Dwarf slayer can wear without it counting as armour? I got these big monster scales i want fashioned into trophies and wearable without counting as armour.
>>66783505The classic rule of thumb is to go by Gotrek. He wears his currency as melted-down armbands, and has been known to block with them on occasion. Leather jacks are frree equipment for a slayer (it's noted that dwarfs don't consider this "real" armor, but strip them off anyway if there's any chance to do so prior to battle).You might make a belt of the scales, depending on their size.
>>66783789Scale is as big as my character but can we worked into smaller parts i think, i was thinking either a big belt or armbands. I've seen pictures of some slayers having bracers or even shin guards but that might be more towards age of sigmar slayers or just artist interpretation
How big would a ship in scale with Warhammer minis be? Not like one of the super ships, but like a plausible merchant ship or something that could be built out of balsa wood for a game of shipboard combat?
If you were given complete control over the lore and could go back and add, delete or change things in the setting, what would they be?
>>66784426Nice, thank you. What book?
>>66785244White Dwarf, I found it by chance here.http://eefl.freeforums.net/thread/537/warhammer-fantasy-classics
>>66785239Everchosens. It should be an idea that Chaos Warriors believe in. A myth, like Sotek or Valten. Not a verified reality.
>>66785339Nice, thank you!
>>66775232thanks anon, I batch painted these up until final detailing so I have machine out a bunch right now, which I'll shit up the thread with. >>66777633that' s what he wants you to think!>>66781983it absolutely does, I'm not sure if I can do ALL of them with cute pink noses though
>>66782008I'll probably grab a few that look good for state trooper uniforms and punk rock hair(for my Escher gang and Amazon warband), other than that not that fussed about them, the new batch of base paint colours are more interesting to me to be honest.
>>66785239“Chaos” is just raw magic energy, it’s not inherently evil or good on its own. The big 4 are just extremely powerful chaos entities but they don’t represent chaos as a whole. The other gods aren’t just aspect of the big 4, but separate entities with their own wills and agendas. The gods power is directly tied to the material world and their followers. Because of the nature of chaos as being timeless and spaceless, it’s impossible to inflict meaningful change in the warp unless those actions are mirrored in the real world. For instance, sotek crawling into the horned rats lair and challenging him there would be reflected in the real world by a massive lizardmen army invading a Skaven lair. If the lizardmen win, soteks attacks on the horned rat inflict damage on the god and he weakens a bit.
>>66786007I really like the idea of the actions and movements of gods being tied to big events among their followers. It even makes sense with more physical examples like the Wild Hunt, the Everchosen, Repanse, how Valten united half the Empire together.
>>66776416And is then resurrected
Hey guys, thought you might like this. Check this blood bowl career for wfrp (technically not the same universe but close enough). Hope you like it, even if its just for a laugh.
>>66785239>naggaroth is fantasy North America and not a desolate shithole >beastmen have their own pantheon of gods like the horned rat >the darklands aren’t just volcanic wastelands. They’re habitable areas filled with kingdoms of men, orcs, chaos, beastmen, ogres and chaos dwarfs that are constantly rising and falling. The chaos dwarfs are a constant but the other kingdoms change all the time >the dark elves aren’t edge elves. They’re more militaristic, violent and hold the other races in complete contempt, but they’re not stupid evil. >all the gods have their own champions and chaos warrior equivalents, though how the blessing manifests is different from god to god. >the empire is in control of most of its land and the forests aren’t fully infested with beastmen.
>>66789038>the dark elves aren’t edge elves. They’re more militaristic, violent and hold the other races in complete contempt, but they’re not stupid evil. So delete Dark Elves, replace with Caledor colony?
>>66789091More like average Nagarythe colony. Caledorians aren't as murder happy as naggarothi elves.
finished my unit of 20 darkshards with shields
>>66789245old school skin tones nice, the banner is really well done!
>>66789245Yeah, the banner looks good.
>>66782008I will probably pick up some for my tomb kings.
>>66789091Why would I want to do that, they're my favorites.
>>66789038>>naggaroth is fantasy North America and not a desolate shitholeIt sort of used to be like that (based on the really really brief descriptions in early fluff and stuff like Orc's Drift.)
>>66782852How what? How did the Dogs of War proyect start?
A question I was mulling over recently, why has there never been a warhammer fantasy/40k table top simulator online? Blood Bowl has the games, but there were never any (official or unofficial) for the others?
>>66790538>why has there never been a warhammer fantasy/40k table top simulator online?There is, it's called Tabletop Simulator.
>>66784138just look at rl-ships and divide the length by 72.for most frigates it'll be about 50cm/20inch in scale, for smaller ships, like canonboats and yachts and lifeboats about 12cm/5inch.also, look at some models, they've both the scale and actual size of the model on the box
>>66790727WFB isn't 1/72 though, 28mm is more like 1/64 - 1/56ish
>>66790767yeah, but the ship models fit perfectly
>>66789245Very solid, colors are done smoothly and the icy bases work well for contrasting the dark armor colors.
>>66789038Naggaroth's already like that though. Sure most of it is wilderness, but the Delves have several major settlements and fortresses. It's also not totally desolate or frozen. There's forests and deserts.
>>66789245Sweet. Armor detail is really well done.
>>66789245>tfw painting Dork Elves too>but with High Elf colorsHow'd you get the pale vampire skin?
Basecoat and washes blocked in, time for the hard part - highlights
How would /wfg/ go about justifying Beholders in WHF? I had an idea for them being Fimir/Lammassu hybrids from the Chaos Wastes, uplifted by Tzeentch but decided that the Wastes fucking sucked and so buggered off into the Old World in search of knowledge. I was thinking it'd be fun to have them as reclusive magic advice blobs that occasionally offer their services as sorcerous mercenaries rather than the typical dungeon end boss.
>>66794916Why would you have to explain it?Warhammer was created to sell D&D and other IP minis GW wasn’t legally allowed to sell anymore. Use that meta excuse to sell “Eye Squigs” or “Eyemen” or something.
>>66794916>How would /wfg/ go about justifying Beholders in WHF?Chaos.
Just won these lads for 30 bucks
>>66795127They'd make good daemons of Malal, unironically, though it may also be cool to make them some other kind of eldritch threat beyond even Chaos.
My black Ark corsairs dont push together nicely on their 20×20 bases and it really bugs me
>>66795226Now giv' em a scrap loik a proppa boss should.
>>66741997Where is that map from?The RPG?
What are some good ideas for beach-related terrain and basing? Sand, of course, but tall grass? Water?
>>66796088Rocks, tide pools, sand, sobbing Hayden Christensen, sand, big ol' shells, remains of tourist visits like tents and upright surfboards, sand, a pier, and sand.
We had a nice game this weekend 1500pts brets vs. Lizardboys, if anyone is interested I'll post a short batrep.
>>66796186I'm interested, how did it go? What sort of objectives and such where there?
>>66796063Dude I'm already building magnetized movement trays, interchangeable square to round bases all flocked properly I ain't multi basing too
>>66793758rakarth flesh, shade with the purple shade, palid wytch flesh and highlight with pure white
who was more powerful, the Elves at their absolute peak or the dwarfs at their absolute peak? And how would the war of the beard if they were both at the height of their power?
>>66796335>Dude I'm already building magnetized movement trays, interchangeable square to round bases all flocked properly
>>66796303we had a pretty standard game, controlling quadrants of the table for points + banners and warlord, we decided to do it simple for the lizardmen player that had not played for years.Here is at the end of the first turn, a squad of ten saurians have occupied the ruined castle, my paladin on pegasus was trying to flank the Temple Guard but got bamboozled by a unit of skirmishing skinks. At the far end of the table cold ones charged a unit of mounted yeomen placed there as bait to protect the knights of the realm unit. a unit of 15 saurians with spears and Chakax started going towards the knights, and my useless bowmen fired against them. Trebuchet fired and hit the mark spot on the saurians before they entered the castle, killing two.My damsel with prayer icon of Quenelles blessed my 25-man unit of men-at-arms with spears and their paladin on foot and greatsword, and they prepared to assault the castle
>>66796473here's a better picture of the clusterfuck at the first turns, with the baiting and soon to be dead yeomen and the damsel abandoning the men-at-arms to join the bowmen
Do you think the druchii play ice hockey?
>>66796514this is the last picture I took, but at the second half the chaps with spears started assaulting the castle and even killed a handful of saurians by themselves. The paladin entered there like a champ and started cleaving. By 4th turn the spearmen entered the castle. The saurians with chakax got fucked by the lore of life damsel, who forced them to move at half distance with Lady of River. On the other fronts, the skinks suffered heavy losses but managed to spook the pegasus paladin, who fled but afterwards charged chakax's unit with the help of the bowmen (a carnage ensued). The cold ones trampled over the yeomen and caught the knights afterwards, who were succesfully demoralized and fled the board. A second unit of yeomen charged their back and a foot bsb with flail tried to help, but to no avail.On the other flank, the Questing Knights abandoned their attempts to bait a failed charge by the temple guard and headed towards the castle, trampling the unit of skinks (not before paying it with the dear lives of two knights, who fell to poisoned darts). They ended the match getting ready to charge Chakax unit, with the spearmen ready to help. It was a marginal victory for the lizard boys, but I now know that saurians are absolute murderbeasts and I have to treat them with care.
>>66796613Those men at arms look really nice, what modes are they?
>>66796645thanks! they are the men-at-arms from Mom Miniaturas, they come only with spears and the command group has to be bought separatedly but they have been a rock solid unit for all games I've played
>>66796686https://www.momminiaturas.com/miniaturas-fantasia/hijos-del-le%C3%B3n/here you have a link
>>66795226Aamazingly good deal there.
>>66796686>they come only with spearsI think MoM previewed a version with swords recently.
>>66796715Muchas gracias, my bretonnian amigo!
>>66790367no, how did you go about painting on the train?
>>66796715>Manuel OlmedoI fucking swear Spaniards are almost as bad as Greeks when it comes to their kickstarters.It's been two months since the last update in the Kensei KS this chucklefuck recommended and his own comment section is a bunch of shitposts in Spanish. Christ almighty no wonder their Empire fell apart so damn quickly.
>>66796574They play pin the knife on the other druchii's back. All the time.
>>66796686Where did you get the Paladin?
>>66797365Another spanish dude called Norba minis. Beware tho, he's a cunt with shit attention services and bad quality minis with a lot of factory mistakes. For the paladin I had to replace the sword entirely and fill a fuckton of gaps with greenstuff.
>>66797354I'm only half-joking. I feel like hockey is a sport that the dark elves would take to readily. It's fast, tactical, highly skill-oriented, and incredibly violent if played as god intended. They'd probably use a heart for a puck or something edgy like that.
>>66797263ur welcome my unknowno friendDesperta ferro
>>66797563Nah, hearts don't have the same killing potential as a puck.
>>66797335meh the minis were cheap and good quality, spears are a little flimsy since they are resin but I just treat them with care and they have been a-ok so far.but yeah fuck kikestarter AND fuck the Imperio Español
>>66797577They might if they freeze solid on a Naggarothi winter's night.
Made my first movement tray, waiting on a load of bases before I can make the other ones
>>66796436elveselves were split into roughly equally powerful High Elves and Dark elvesand High Elves were equally powerful to dwarves under dwarven high king, which were the majority