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"It saddens me," says Van der Vaart when asked about Messi. "It's a matter of will. Either you want to or not. Messi is highly sought after and if he doesn't score or assist, it's because he played a very bad game. Neymar has much more, that open gaze. He sees more, Mbappé too. Somehow Messi way does not fit. "When you see Cristiano Ronaldo, for example, I know they are two completely different types of players. He is fighting and wants to take the team to another level. Messi walks the field from time to time and I think: aren't you ashamed? ", adds the Dutch. "I'm starting to get upset with Messi. And that's a shame, because such a player will never be born again. It already started with Ronald Koeman. It was actually a refusal to work and that's not right for a player like Messi."
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Messiesta
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>>115350574
Yep, perfectly articulated my views.
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KWAB (van der faart that is)
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>Van der Vaart
thats pretty ironic coming from him
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>>115350574
>Neymar has much more
>Ronaldo is fighting and wants to take the team to another level
Kek, what a retard.
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He's literally autistic so he doesn't understand or care about how the walking looks.
He has simply calculated in that aspie brain of his that conserving energy by walking at times gives him the best chance of decisively affecting the game offensively and therefore winning.
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>VAN DER FAART
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>Man spends entire career in league that is allergic to defending
>doesn't learn how to defend and track back
truly shocking
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>>115350639
show me Messi fighting and wanting to take the team to another level
is that what he does when he looks at the grass sad?
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>>115350681
the famous taking the team to another level.
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>>115350574
missi cucktini
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>>115350574

this guy likes to run his mouth doesn't he? at Messi's age he was playing in the Danish league

become a manager if you think you have all the answers
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tell me one reason why Messi should do anything in November as a 34 year old when there are still months of the season left.

the sad pathetic cunt is Mbappe. A 23 year old should be running nonstop like thomas the train engine.
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>>115350788
>7 years ago
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>>115350595
>>115350622
>>115350639
>>115350651
>>115350746
>>115350769
>>115350788
Wow Pissi stans are NOT coping well with his failure this season

Unprecedented levels of cope and denial here
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>>115350746
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>>115350909
How many goals has Ronaldo scored in his last seven Premier League games?
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and of the sudden the world realizes why argie media gave him shit for years
you now are living what the argentina national lived for many years=invisible useless messi
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Van der Messi Shaart
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>>115350909
didn't read + ratio + you're bong
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>>115350594
Same. Wtf did he go to psg for. Biggest kino move would be to Newell's old boys or boca. Messi is finished at the top level unfortunately
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>>115350639
Neymar does have more, he just forgot how to shoot

Don't know why people act like Neymar is lazy, maybe off the field, but on the field he's a try hard, for better and worse (disasterclass against Bayern in the CL Final)
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>>115350769
He has a big mouth. That's what us Dutchies do. I remember he pissed off the whole of Spain too. But next to that he just loves football. And what he's saying is true. Messi is his favorite player of all time and it's just very disappointing to see him walk around on the field like this. Anons posting iconic moments when he put the team on his back are missing the point. That's exactly what VdV is talking about. There is simply nothing left of that anymore. I'm not the biggest CR7 fan but he's right about his energy on the field. He demands the best from himself but also other players. Messi just doesn't exude that energy now and frankly hasn't done so since a while, even at barca.
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>>115350929
Your team is shit and he singlehandedly carried it. If Higuain could shoot the story would be different.
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>>115351241
Just like he's carrying PSG huh
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>>115351074
when PSG is trying to play fast, to score a goal, they just go around Messi, I guess if you behave like a cone your teammates will eventually treat you like a cone
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>>115350919

>>115351006
Neymar is playing like shit. Even worse than Messi, he has been useless so far.
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>>115351241

>"LOOK AT 2014 WORLD CUP AND IGNORE EVERYTHING BEFORE AND AFTER!"
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>>115350574
>Van der Vaart
this guy should be ingnored, he noticed bashing players made him do the headlines and he's not going to stop, wait for him to be hired by an english tv channel
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>>115351250
Who said anything about PSG?
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>>115351268
It goes for Copas too so no.
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He has been running quite a lot for his standards in the NT since Scaloni took charge. Don't think he can do it every 3 days during 8 months, though.
I guess he has given up on club football.
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>>115351275
ok but is he wrong?
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>>115351262
When did I say he wasn't playing like shit?
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>>115351297
>has more
He doesn't. He does useless dribbles and that's about it so far. Can't even give a good pass like Messi.
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He's saving himself for the world cup while making millions
you got filtered
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>>115351275
>wait for him to be hired by an english tv channel
He's not brown or female enough. Maybe if he starts calling himself Rafaela they'll take him.
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>>115351311
He has more will than Messi, he works harder than Messi, that was the topic at hand

And that's not even true either, Neymar has been pretty good at everything involving build up. His finishing has just been absolutely abysmal which balances out everything else
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>>115351330
This
Its coming home, BTW we were robbed on 2014 and 2006 by the germs
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Who is vad den vart
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>>115351379
No, he is shit or invisible. He sometimes dribbles past the defender or the tracks back, that's about it. There is no will there. The guy does nothing.
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>>115351074
Yeah, it's like if Michelangelo stopped working on the Sistine Chapel midway, to laze around. We're not saying he hasn't been great, but if you're gonna play at the highest level, put in some effort.
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he was never a physical player, so to see him slowing down at age 34 really shouldn't surprise you
if it does, you're probably one of two things
>clueless halal troll football-tier retard boat migrant
>yank

he'll also get further in the CL than ronaldo will this year
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>look at these webms of a decade ago
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Van der Vaart is a fat fuckin tokkie who eats frikandels daily

god i hate pundits
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Have these people ever watched Messi? Are they discovering now that he walks when not in possession?
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>>115351638
people seem to be having a hard time understanding that the greatest attacking player in the world doesn't need to press
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>>115351292
>Argentina.
>Pizza and sprite.
>PSG.
>In that order.
Sovlful and warm chested.
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Remember when Pissicucks were saying that because his technique and vision are so great, he would continue to break assist records until he was 40
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>>115351074
Speak brother
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>Van der Vaart
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>>115351622
top fucking kek I didn't know he blew up like that. VdV has always been a walking meme.
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>>115351622

yeah this fat shit shouldn't be talking about anybody's fitness and work rate
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>>115351641
Yet they say the complete opposite to his rival.
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>>115350909
Absolutely based anti-Messi mass replied
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>>115351622
jej
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>>115351622
>>115351944
He's not a pro athlete playing for 500 billion a month, you retarded faggots.
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>>115351241
>If Higuain could shoot the story would be different.
yes, instead Messi would take credit for winning the world cup if Higuain scored
but when they lose (Messi missed a sitter btw) it's all on the other players
no one has ever said Ronaldo carried Real Madrid meanwhile Messi fans say that Messi was better than every other player and carried the team, they live through an autistic midget
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>>115351262

I fucking hate when they zoom in like that in the middle of the play. Keep that for replays.
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>>115351275
He played for RM and Spurs. He has all the rights to call out shit players who did fuck all for their wages.
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Man U loses againt Young Boys
>Great game from ronaldo too bad his team couldn't push through
PSG loses against Man City
>Bahaha pissi is done, x-x-xavi i need you

Wow you guys are something else
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People actually expected him to give a shit about PSG?
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>>115350746
cried at this one lmaoooooooooo
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>>115352624
>no one has ever said Ronaldo carried Real Madrid
Lmao
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>>115351622
one too many HAMBURGers.. :^)
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>>115353068
ehe ehe
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>>115350574
>RIPPING OFF QUATAR IS LE BAD
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>>115350574
literally who?
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>>115350645
This
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>>115350955
Messi's career is over and he knows it. He already has god tier stats (specially when you normalize them by matches played) and won almost everything. It's a shame that he couldn't get a WC, his last chance was 2014 and has a top tier country to do so, but I'm pretty sure he's satisfied with all his other achievements.
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>>115350788
Mbappe is carrying though you retarded pissifag, cope more
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>>115350574
>van der Vaart
wew, opinion discarded.
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>>115351241
cope
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>>115352624
>no one has ever said Ronaldo carried Real Madrid
The fuck? People said that all the time
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>>115350574
Messi works harder than neymar
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>>115352561
He could be. Psg would pay him
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>>115350923
More THA than Messi has scored all season
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Can't wait for him to become a manager
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>>115350574
Messoy
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He's saving himself for his last attempt at winning a WC, that CA restored his hope.
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>>115350595
this made me chuckle lulz
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>>115350929
This was right before the 3-1 against Ecuador, honestly our media pressured for Andrada and fucking Armanqui to the NT not so long ago.
>>115351241
Not true either, that only happened on 2016-18 and even then, he had his mistakes, our mediocre managers are at fault tho
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>>115350746
posting the 1 lahm wall fk is one thing, but this? messifags have literally no ammo. if that got in it would literally be the best goal ever. show me a move with a harder execution. long diagonal pass, has to receive with chest away from goal because of opponent and his a volley from an awkward angle with his weak foot at the last minute of a match after being punched in the stomach.

>muh he didn't show up when portugal needed most!
Portugal didn't need anything until we let in a goal in the 90th minute. and that game was only worth a damn because uefa stole his decisive goal in Serbia.

>inb4 lmao long post so penaldofag coping
so you can't refute what I wrote. thanks
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>euro 2012 winner Jordi Alba passes the ball to world cup winner Pique
>world cup winner Pique passes the ball to 5 times Uefa team of the year Daniel Alves
>5 times Uefa team of the year Daniel Alves passes the ball to world cup winner Iniesta
>world cup winner Iniesta passes the ball to world cup winner Busquets
>world cup winner Busquets passes the ball to world cup winner Xavi
>world cup winner Xavi passes the ball to multiple golden shoes winner Luis Suarez
>multiple golden shoe winner Luis Suarez passes the ball to ballon dor contender Neymar
>Neymar dribbles past five Getafe defenders and passes the ball across an empty net to Messi
>Messi blasts it in and makes it 5-1
>what a goal, unbelievable performance, Barca could not have won without the magisterial magister


>PL team of the year and 2 times PL winner Zabaleta passes the ball to CL 'team of the season' and Barca 'best player' 13-14 Mascherano
>CL 'team of the season' and Barca 'best player' 13-14 Mascherano passes to Primeira Liga Player of the Year 13-14 Enzo Perez
>Primeira Liga Player of the Year 13-14 Enzo Perez passes the ball to 2014 PL winner Demichelis
>2014 PL winner Demichelis long pass to La Liga top assist provider and CL winner 13-14 Angel Di Maria
>La Liga top assist provider and CL winner 13-14 Angel Di Maria passes to PL winner Man City top scorer and future Premier League Golden Boot Aguero
>PL winner Man City top scorer and future Premier League Golden Boot Aguero passes the ball across an empty net to Messi
>Messi blasts it in against 10 men Venezuela, makes it 4-0
>what a goal, unbelievable magisterial performance,Argentina could not have won without the magisterial magister


>180m euros WC winner passes to 222m euros player
>222m euros player passes to Messi
>Messi passes to 180m euros WC winner
>180m euros WC winner shifts it back to Messi
>what a goal, 2-0, unbelievable magisterial performance,PSG could not have won without the magisterial magister
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>>115350595
>>115350622
>>115350651
>>115350769
>>115350944
>>115351453
>>115351622
>>115351908
Umm sweeties? He's the golden boy 2003 winner. Bet you feel stupid now huh
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>>115350574
what is it about messi that riles up old players?
they dont attack ronaldo with as much viciousness like they do to messi.
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>>115350574
Messi always walks or disconnects from the game for long periods of time, he was always rather a player with short explosive moments, it happens that as he now aged, that explosiveness is no longer so strong
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>>115363536
He doesn't attack him, read what he said again you low IQ shit meat or go back to twitter if you're unable to cope with meaningful criticism
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>>115363994
unlike you leafs, I can identify & still have self-respect to not let pissy little jealous faggots get away with insults masked with "criticism"
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>>115360586
>if that got in it would literally be the best goal ever. show me a move with a harder execution
you're missing the point anon. It's the fact he completely wasted the opportunity by attempting such a ridiculous shot/move in the first place
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>>115363536
because they know that for all the ability they had football-wise, they didn't have as much as Messi. So they're angry
that somebody better than them gets to be lazier than they were
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>>115363536
Why not just read the quote? He was walking around while down 2-1 against city. All the Mexicans at my work were roasting him too. It’s disgraceful
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>>115363536

because Messi makes it look easy. with Cristiano he's at pains to show you how hard he works and the effort he puts in, and other players can understand that. but natural talent makes people seethe.
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>>115364129
yup. it seems to be a case of working smart vs working hard or giving the impression of working hard. they're basically saying "I want my player to run aimlessly than resting while the people who need to defend/mid do their job". its a psychological thing, I guess at the end of the day.

>>115364405
>mexicans
>race known for working hard for no reason than smarter
thank you for proving my above point
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>>115364492
thank fuck he's autistic then. so he wouldnt be bothered by these jealous fags. now that I think about it, there's a reason our evolution turned out in a way to make outliers with natural talent autistic so they cant relate with normies too much. if they do, they would do the aimlessly running to show they're working hard.
the autism is his defense against jealous critiques like this fag.
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>>115350574
>It already started with Ronald Koeman.
caminessi has been a thing since 2011, burdisso was expelled from the NT back then for humiliating pissi by demanding him in front of everybody to pressure
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>>115360047
t. bootyblasted boca fan
armani is the best keeper we have
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>>115364085
nah, the entire team wasted 90 minutes because of a dubious game plan, and they had a couple of minutes to score. only a fool thinks that in that situation, if Ronaldo has half a chance to shoot, he shouldn't do it and should make a side pass to whomever instead.
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https://twitter.com/FootballRamble/status/1463916308228100101

van der vaart is based though
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>>115351241
>>115351284
>le "needs 6 copa's in 13 years to win" man
>"He SiNgLeHaNdLy CaRrIeS tHeM"

lmfao
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>>115365611
Carried them to finals yes. Copas were organized like that before you absolute retard.
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>>115361258
Now do Portugal 2016...
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>>115351571
I’m both a yank and a retard boat migrant.
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>>115366830
>carries them to finals
And then hilariously chokes in them. Didn't do shit btw

>IT WAS LIKE THAT LIKE 100 YEARS AGO
And now it's even more embarrassing when it's done to blatantly give the manlet shit a participation trophy in front of zero fans in the COVID era
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>>115361258
Based pasta
Pissifags can never recover
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Messi always walked. It's his signature move.
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>>115351258
Except in the City game of course.
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>taking a shit on maguire and pissi cucckitini

wtf i love van der faart now??????????
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>>115351258
>psg
>fast
they are almost incapable of leaving their own half lmao
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>wank durr fart
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>>115350574
Based.
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>>115361258
O ZABALETA
O MASCHERANO
O PEREZ CIAO PEREZ CIAO PEREZ CIAO CIAO CIAO



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