Decades of recycling and electric cars and carpeting the planet with ugly blue solar panels WASTED! And all because some fucking MOUNTAIN decided to fart a bunch of death gas into the air!
>>15852598The volcano is only erupting in the first place due to fracking in the North Sea.
>>15852598that would only matter if CO2 were a greenhouse gas, which is isn't. if CO2 was really a greenhouse then Mars would have a massive greenhouse effect because Mars has over 2000% more CO2 per unit surface area in it's atmosphere than Earth does. Mars has no measurable greenhouse effect whatsoever, which rules out the possibility of CO2 being a greenhouse gas
>>15852602Actually it's because of all of the fracking your mom and I have been doing
>>15853078Mars has a thin atmosphere and is way further from the sun.
>>15853078More per area is a big claim. You sure you didn't misread your source as more per atmosphere?
>>15852598man-made volcanic eruptions. sad.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eBaPJ9houyc
>>15852598>ugly blue solar panelsThere literally exists nothing in this world that is blue and ugly at the same time. Objects of blue color can't simply be ugly.
Don't care, I'll still call out people for being so pussified that the only times they actually move themselves, on their own power, is from their living room to their motorized living room.>ugly blue solar panelsLove the beautiful smoke stacks of industry. Honestly just move to a coal town if you're worried your dietary lead level is too low.
>>15853142
how and why is a volcano emitting co2?isn't co2 a biological product?
>>15853150venus bruh
>>15853157yeah but how?does molten rock just turn into co2 or what is going on?
>>15853078co2 is a greenhouse gas, but its effects are weak>>15853126mars still feels effects from the sun strongly, as mars' polar caps pattern match those on earth.but to rephrase you statement, you are claiming that co2 has a negligible effect at trapping heat compared to the rest of earth's gasses, whish is true. water is at 99.5%+ responsible for the greenhouse effect, whish is still vey small in the grand scheme of things.
>>15853142>>15853146commies be like "GOTTA PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT"
>>15853160Because rocks are made of coal, they burn deep inside earth and co2 is created and released when volcano erupts. What r u stupid?
>>15853166beautiful
>>15853160there's all kinds of reactions which result in CO2, doesn't have to be life which makes it.rocks trap it and it's released by volcanoes
>>15853162>but to rephrase you statement, you are claimingNo, not at all.
>>15853166>commies be like "GOTTA PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT"I concede, clean coal is the way. Communist Big Solar is trying to cuck you into sourcing your own electricity independent of the grid. Those pinkos are trying to disrupt the free and vibrant market of mom and pop oil companies.
>>15853166that shit looks horrible. humanity needs rtsc soo bad. with it we can dump the panels in the oceans, and use the land for something else. like trees for fucks sake. I'd always take trees over panels.
>>15853132run the numbers yourself if you doubt it
>>15853190Or just put panels in the desert where there are no trees.
>>15853202Those ones that just direct light into a solar thing in the middle are pretty cool looking. There have been some developments there heating sand to make a big heat battery that can slowly release over like 12 hours.
>>15853202For the people who live in the desert or are you actually that retarded that you think solar is a good form of grid-level power generation?
>>15853224not him but with rtsc (0 transport losses, anywhere on the planet) and increased panel efficiency that is absolutely valid. the day side of the planet can power the night side in realtime, 0 transport losses, no batteries needed. stop reading propaganda anon and start thinking for yourself
>>15852598This is retarded. Volcanoes don't put out anywhere near as much carbon dioxide as humans. Find a real source or fuck off.
>>15853238Okay, and with magic pixie dust we could make sure nobody ever starves to death again. That doesn't mean we should build our food logistics infrastructure around the idea that magic pixie dust will come in to save the day. Room temperature super conductors are a coping mechanism that people use to try and overcome the problem of there never being a free lunch.
>>15853289We don't even need magic pixie dust. We grow enough food to feed the world like twice over. Starvation and famine are purely logistics and economics issues in the modern world, which is ironic because every free market capitalist will tell you that markets are efficient means of distributing resources and that communism and socialism will cause famines.
>>15853306You didn't understand the analogy.
>>15853309I did. You didn't understand the reality.
>>15852598Well if a random Twitter screenshot said it, it must be true
>>15853310Okay, keep praying for room temperature super conductors to come in and save the day. I'll be with the adults, working on solving the actual resource constrained problems in the world.
>>15853313>I'll be with the adults, working on solving the actual resource constrained problems in the world.Like causing famines because you can't figure out where to send the food?
>>15853316Yup :)
>>15853319Sounds like intelligence is the resource your most constrained in.
>>15853321I'm not the one deciding solar in the desert makes sense because "if we get zero waste interconnects one day it could be great." :)
>>15853330Me neither. I'm the one explaining that you don't need magic pixie dust to feed the world because we already produce more food than we need to feed all of humanity.Intelligence is definitely the first issue you should work out with the adults. Usually we call that "school".
>>15853336Unfortunately, you've got the same problem as the solar in the desert people.The cost management in the distribution is the hard problem, not the production. You can produce all of the food you want, if you can't get it to people, it will be wasted. Just like solar in the desert.
>>15853352>The cost management in the distribution is the hard problem, not the productionIt's not. Just cut agricultural subsidies and the problem will mostly sort itself out. Pretending that US farmers who own hundreds of thousands of acres are competing with Ugandan farmers who own 10 acres is disingenuous and creates inefficiency. Literally just stop giving people tax dollars for putting seeds in the ground and people will have to actually sell the food and moreover maximize profit.You should spend your time working on that intelligence problem. That will be the best way for you to spend your time.
>>15853359Maximizing profit and minimizing food waste are not the same thing. They are different objectives that sometimes happen to coincide but non-necessarily so. Planting less corn in Iowa also doesn't plant more corn in Uganda.
>>15853362>Maximizing profit and minimizing food waste are not the same thing. They are different objectives that sometimes happen to coincide but non-necessarily so.Because of agricultural subsidies. You don't have to sell the food you grow, and if you do you don't have to get any money for it because your profit comes from taxes. That system encourages waste.>Planting less corn in Iowa also doesn't plant more corn in Uganda.Nobody said anything about planting less corn. We're talking about paying farmers for the food they grow, instead of for the fact that they own a farm.Again, I think your biggest problem is the intelligence thing. Wouldn't you rather work on that so you can be less of a retard?
>>15853364No, even without agricultural subsidies they are not the same thing on principle. If it is more costly to get the food to remote consumers who need it than it is to throw the food out, it is less profitable to have less waste. You will have more profits by selling 80% of your food locally than by selling 100% of your food including transport to remote customers if that transport is more costly than the profit from selling the food. This is the problem with only concerning yourself with the resource production side of things and not considering at all the costs of distribution/transmission.
>>15852602It's because we didn't sacrifice enough virgins to the mountain!
>>15853368Transportation is so cheap that many people make their money trading the exact same food products overseas. Take a look at our import/export list. Moreover, we pay farmers subsidies to use water which encourages them to grow water heavy, low value crops. If they picked more valuable crops instead of growing alfalfa in the deserts of the western US then they'd get real money for trading real food. Instead they drain US aquifers to send a product with next to no value to other countries.This is the problem with only concerning yourself with the costs of distribution/transmission and not considering at all the resource production side of things. You should work on producing some intelligence as a resource.
>>15853377You are impressively uneducated for someone telling others to get an education.Food exports/imports are profitable because they are expensive and difficult (meaning there is a high barrier to entry which prevents competition from others who could undercut prices). That also doesn't address any of the issues regarding famine that you were indicating before, almost all of which occur because it isn't profitable/efficient to send food to these regions that do not produce enough for themselves.
>>15853389>Food exports/imports are profitable because they are expensive and difficultLol no. Import/export is trivial and cheap as hell. To the point that we even ship shipping freighters instead of loading them up with freight and sailing them over. You are impressively uneducated>That also doesn't address any of the issues regarding famineOf course it does. Instead of growing products that you don't have to make a profit on farmers will instead have to seek profit from their crops. That means more valuable crops (food, not fodder) being sold for real profit (to people, not trash cans).This is why I keep telling you that your time is better spent on your constrained intelligence.
>>15853400I guess when you are hammer, everything looks like a nail.The idea that food crops are defacto the most profitable in all circumstances is also a bit of an odd one that I'm not sure really has much basis in reality.
>>15853200Where are the numbers?Can't just wishy-wash handwave it away when making such grand declaration
>>15853412>The idea that food crops are defacto the most profitable in all circumstances is also a bit of an odd one that I'm not sure really has much basis in reality.That's called ignorance. The only crops more valuable than food crops are specialty crops for niche markets like medicinal crops which have a fraction of the market cap and often require licensing and regulatory oversight.
>>15853078A retard whose brains were skull fucked out his ears by his grandfather.THE POST.
>>15853424As far as I can tell, the main export crops from the US are grains and feeds, followed by seeds and oils. Used in food production but not actually food itself. There are some states which export a decent amount of frozen fruit, but these are expensive and a fairly small proportion of the overall export market. This makes sense when you consider that these export products need to sit in shipping containers in generally unrefrigerated/uncontrolled conditions for potentially weeks/months at a time so anything requiring consumption soon after production would spoil or be very expensive to keep refrigerated/frozen long term.
>>15853433Main export does not mean most valuable. We literally just had this discussion. You'd be better off looking up a list of cash crops. It depends on the methodology used by whoever compiles the list, but lavender is usually at the top of the list because of the essential oil fad, usually followed by saffron, because the spice must flow, and then usually followed by corn, tomatoes, grapes, ect.>This makes sense when you consider that these export products need to sit in shipping containers in generally unrefrigerated/uncontrolled conditions for potentially weeks/months at a time so anything requiring consumption soon after production would spoil or be very expensive to keep refrigerated/frozen long term.Transportation doesn't usually take months (unless you're the Evergiven) and we import and export tons of fresh produce. You can find fresh jackfruit in pretty much every city in the US, but have you ever seen a jackfruit tree?
>>15853431Reddit rage is amazing to see. At least try to say some bullshit argument like your more lgbt peers
>>15853150carbonate rock melting & burning is certain to release some of that carbon
>>15853238cool story anon but RTSC's are not real
>>15854202yet. and we don't know even that. might as well already exist but be kept under wraps for military applications and shit
>>15854292>its a conspiracy!!Take your meds, schizo.
>>15854292All of that is pure conjecture on your part. You can't build massive, feasible energy systems with conjecture.
funny you implying that certainly doesn't happen lol fr tho fuck off
ITS THE END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW ITAND I FEEL FINE
>>15853421you can't even do the calculations yourself? are you really too low iq and ignorant to be able to do simple, high school level calculations on your own?
>>15853181>a few acres of land that was already garbage before anyone touched itvs>hundreds of square miles of beautiful mountains
>>15852598Reading comprehension. The output will be more than all humans while it is erupting. In a few weeks the addition will be a tiny little bump up on the CO2 level chart, among the constant rise we add.
>>15854345I do not know what specific numbers you are using.Nor what calculations you did to arrice at your conclusion.If you know what you're doing and the math is so simple it should be easy to explain where you're coming from.It would make for a higher quality discussion at any rate. Something beyond inane rambling and anger.
>>15854200That's pretty coolNever really thought about how a lot of rocks are carbon-based to some extentIs rock science geology or chemistry?
>>15852598Wow even more trees, fuck this shit they're overrunning our planet
>>15854394geochemistry is its own subfield
>>15853238>the day side of the planet can power the night side in realtimeGreat plan. Let's call up Russia right now and ask them to pretty-please wallpaper their country with solar panels so Americans can watch anime at 3AM
>>15853078Consider the following points;Water is an even bigger greenhouse gas.Without it's negligible atmosphere, mars would be even colder.
>>15853078>hes still repeating this shit months later
>>15854680>Without it's negligible atmosphere, mars would be even colder.It wouldn't. The equilibrium temperature of Mars is its measured temperature. >>15849523
>>15854738Why wouldn't he post factual information? Do you hate facts?
>>15852598>it will dump more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than all humans put togetherfor how long?
>>15853285When they say this it's like the telephone game where then leave out the part about the rate exceeds human output for a short amount of time.
>>15854775Volcanoes emit most of the CO2 in the atmosphere
>>15854833No they don't.
>>15852598fuck mountains
>>15854839No they don't do not.
>>15853370I'll start recruiting in /R9K/ right away!
>>15853238You're talking to ignorant manchildren, anon.Pearls before swine and all that.
>>15855545Virgin is a description of soil, not seed, unsown is the description for seeds that have never been planted.
>>15855554One of the best materials to build a bed with would be sheep wool, as it keeps warmth very well.
>earthquakes slowing down>still no explosionits a nothing burger. they will be moving back in by the end of the week
>>15853370If not enough lolis are fucked this year then the gods will cause great tribulations to mankind. It is known.
>>15856348That is science because is falsifiable.
>>15853306Which is true, in even vaguely capitalistic countries starvation is a non-issue. Proper nutrition is a problem, but mere calories are easily met by anyone willing to apply for food stamps or visit a soup kitchen.
Sounds like its been cancelled. Townsfolk heading back
>>15852598Double carbon taxes. It's the only play.
>>15856352Nope. https://nihcm.org/publications/hunger-in-america>More than 34 million people in the United States were living in food insecure households in 2021, a decline from 38 million in 2020.Oct 19
>>15856352Starvation is omnipresent in capitalist societies. Read theory.
eh, nothing burger
>>15856674What theory? String theory?
earthquakes per hour are slowing down. looks like the eruption was just some magma leaking out into the ocean.
>>15853166You know that's the funniest thing about these?They are not even real solar panels, and aren't connected to anything.
>>15852598Sauce?Only sauce in this thread is about hunger in the United States.Nice sliding glowies.l
>>15857865Enough with the antisemitism.
>>15857870Are you retarded Mao, Pol Pot and Stalin weren't Jewish
>>15852598Do you have a better source than some random retard on twitter?
>>15853078Careful anon
>>15860288Wrong board
>>15852598How science hasn't come up with a way to stop volcanoes from releasing CO?
>>15857924
>>15860948I guess we just need to genocide the human race starting with whites to save us from the suffering from the evil gasses.
>>15857924All three were literally shabboth goyim.To this day, there's jews in the highest echelons of the CCP, the only non-chinese.And Putin is literally part of the young leaders.
>>15862859Based and ban evasion pilled.
>>15854738>he still responds to this shit months later
>>15862859Michael Mann, the global warming scammer, is a jew
>>15852602Proofs?
>>15863618Why are you comparing local and global events and why do you feel the need to lie about that court case?
>no eruptionwhy was every since geologist saying there was going to be an eruption the size of krakatoa just a week ago. now they are all silent and the earthquakes completely stop and the town is back to normal lmao
>>15863618>Michael Mann is a jewthat explains a lot of things about the global warming hoax
>>15863618??????https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_E._MannThere's no mention in Early Life of him being a j-....Wait just a second...What's that at the bottom...>Categories: [...] American Jews
>>15866371Why would they do that? It's a fact isn't it?
>>15854345Why didn't you answer anon? Where did you go? Retard
>>15853181Solution is Fascism, kill most of the population and reguoate electricity use.
>>15853181>Those pinkos are trying to disrupt the free and vibrant market of mom and pop oil companies.This but unironically. State and Federal regulation has closed down or forced sale of large swathes of a once-profitable small business oil pumping industry. California used to have countless small-owner wells even in the heart of Los Angeles.
The total mass of all solar panels and wind generators and batteries ever built would not equal the mass of just the carbon alone put into the atmosphere by using fossil fuels in only one year.
>>15853202And then where does the energy go? You cant store it, thats for sure, at least not yet. You need transmission lines to move it into the grid then you have a big problem building and mantaining all of that in the damm desert
>>15873646Looks like someone found an excuse to clearcut areas that were previously off limits>we have to clearcut this forest to put up solar panels>we totally don't want to, but greta says we need to do it because of global warming
>>15852598so two weeks until the eurption ?
>>15853078someone explain to this nigger what partial pressure is
>>15874857Thanks for destroying the environment again, environmentalists
>>15854833retard bot answer
>>15875478negroes understand more about astrophysics than you do, racist
>>15876027They don't call it a death cult for no reason
>>15857739>they aren't connected to a-ACK!
>>15857739https://www.power-technology.com/marketdata/power-plant-profile-shanxi-yangquan-yu-county-photovoltaic-project-china/?cf-viewSTOPACTINGSOSCHIZOPHRENIC
Why no just use nuclear power?
>>15877197>>>/pol/
>>15852598How much plastic is it putting into the ocean?
>>15877143why do you believe chinese government press releases? these are chinese "solar panels" in the same way that the chinese "plants" are painted green and the rocks on sticks are chinese "crops". if you know then you know
>>15856734he's talking about antitheory, which is when you learn that capitalist countries can't even measure starvation (because it doesn't happen) and measure "food insecurity" instead, and then you assume the opposite is true (because you're a stupid communist who has to invert every statistic for it to fit in with your political views)
>>15876980there seems to be a correlation of growth in solar power with growth in coal power, coal seem grow at about twice the rate solar power does.
>>15852602NOT. AN. ARGUMENT. though.
>>15852602Theres no fracking in the North Sea.
>>15852598Solar panels aren't that ugly. The real eyesore is wind.
>>15852598Ridiculous. Humans pump out 100x more carbon dioxide than all volcanoes put together.https://www.sciencealert.com/humans-produce-100x-more-co2-than-all-volcanoes-combined
>>15876980Coal doing all the heavy lifting.>>15880002Every 18th century and earlier European town and village was dominated by dozens to hundreds of windmills. It's really a return to the norm.
>>15865238When you're ready, you won't even need to check.
>>15880003>annual average vs additionfuckin' 'ate 'ournalists
>>15854345>Gets asked for source of numbers>Has no source for numbers to even do own equations>Calls everyone else ignorant for not doing simple high school calculations>Calculations that require data that hasn't been providedOh my.
>>15880520
>>15880575>Imagine being this retarded
>>15882942Oh no, it's even worse than that. The study doesn't even account for any carbon capture!
>>15883036>Imagine being this retarded
>>15883523I didn't realize I was talking to trash, I apologize.
>>15883607Alright, I'll play along. Justify your claims.
>>15883611Junior, you are forgetting your place.
>>15883635Lol no. You made retarded claims and now you have to back them. How about we work backwards? How much carbon do you think we capture as a percentage of our total output?
>>15883661YOU ARE COURTING DEATH
>>15883667So effectively 0%. Thank you for conceding that point. Now would you like to elaborate on >annual average vs additionWhat relevance do you imagine this has?
>>15883669Wow, I was just fucking around but you're really going for the "most schizophrenic chain of posts 2023" award, huh?
>>15883675So you can't elaborate and we're just making shit up. Thank you for conceding that point. Now, for the hat trick: provide any source stating that volcanoes emit more carbon dioxide than humans.
>>15883683I REALLY need a reaction image for this situation.Who the fuck are you talking to?
>>15883686(((you)))
NO! not the fujfjgnhfsofjfjdk volcano!!!
>>15852598You've been taught a LIE.Human CO2 emissions were always <5% of total (natural) CO2 emissions.Huge volcanic eruptions have often put out more CO2 than all humans combined for the past 100 years straight.Global warming is FAKE.
>>15853181Beautiful
>>15884090And you've failed to provide a source. Thank you for conceding on all points. That's the hat trick.
>>15884083>Human CO2 emissions were always <5% of total (natural) CO2 emissions.If water flows into a bucked at a rate of 1 gallon per hour and drains from the bottom at a rate of .95 gallons per hour will the bucket fill, empty, or stay at the same level?>Huge volcanic eruptions have often put out more CO2 than all humans combined for the past 100 years straight.Nonsense. Name a single one.
>>15884083You are a retarded boomer basing his worldview on facebook memes.https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/which-emits-more-carbon-dioxide-volcanoes-or-human-activitiesDuring the last few decades, the global temperature has risen.The question isn't "is global warming real?", it's "how much are humans contributing to global warming?"Disclaimer: those that claim that global warming is a "threat to humanity" are just as retarded as you.
I once had a dream humanity ended because of a volcano, I could never forget it. People keep talking about meteors because they know one erased the dinosaurs and the impact is easier to visualize. But volcanos are responsible for massive disasters. All of the ones mankind has witnessed so far are minor compared to previous ones. Our atmosphere is fragile and volcanoes and earthquakes are much more unpredictable than weather conditions. The whole ecological debate is full of controversies, imagine measuring how much of an impact we have deep underground, maybe nothing, though maybe a degree higher on the surface can trigger a much larger effect to earth's interior than we can tell. Naturally or not, I think there is nothing stopping a random dormant volcano to burst a whole continent into space without warning.
>>15885822Anon...Vulcanoes are pretty much only present on the edge of tectonic plates.They could all go off at once and there would be enough safe land left for humanity to live on.Sure, the sky might go dark for a while, but we've had the technology to grow things without natural lights for decades now, so even that won't be an existential threat.
>>15885839If for a while you mean a hundred years and a few generations, then I don't think we can make it. Maybe some may survive and rebuild, but if billions die, that's a huge disaster. We can grow stuff in labs under extreme conditions, but is it feasible to feed everyone? To clean the water for everyone? Health assistance for the volcano related disease? I don't think we'd fair so good if the eruption is strong enough.
>>15885098>Imagine being this mad that you got BTFO by an analogy about a bucketI'm glad you learned something about the natural carbon cycle and why human emissions are an issue.
>>15885845Anon........A hundred years? How do you think volcanoes work, exactly? They explode, put ash in the air for a period of time and settle back down again.You do realize we have a pretty decent understanding of when and where volcanoes will form, right?And while we aren't able to predict when they'll go off exactly, we are capable of predicting it when they're close to going off. See: https://www.usgs.gov/observatories/cvo/monitoring-cascade-volcanoes>We can grow stuff in labs under extreme conditions"Labs". "Extreme conditions". Anon, you should really learn how plants grow.https://news.ucr.edu/articles/2022/06/23/artificial-photosynthesis-can-produce-food-without-sunshine>b-but mass producing isn't possib-https://www.mcgc.com/english/kaiteki_solution_center/oursolution/06.htmlhttps://www.edengreen.com/>but is it feasible to feed everyone?You seem to mistaking "surviving" for "thriving". Half a million humans is more than enough to preserve a decent enough genetic diversity. >clean waterGetting clean water would require us to filter fresh water pulled from existing sources. It's a good thing we're already doing that.Even in a situation where technology isn't available, anyone can easily create a water filter with some gravel, sand and charcoal.Volcanoes aren't some magical thing that randomly sprout under cities.You know how to use google, yes? Fucking google your concerns. You aren't the first to come up with this self-fearmongering.
>>15885906Thanks for the slap of reality, I'll check your links.>A hundred years? How do you think volcanoes work, exactly? They explode, put ash in the air for a period of time and settle back down again.If I recall correctly, Krakatoa explosion left a decade long scar on earth's temperature. How likely would it be for us to see a 10x, 100x or 1000x stronger explosion? What if the volcano is not violently exploding, but remains active for 100 years dumping obscene amounts of smoke? That's not a long geological time, but would be for us.>You seem to mistaking "surviving" for "thriving". Half a million humans is more than enough to preserve a decent enough genetic diversity.To me, that's not enough, I wouldn't call it surviving. Those half millions humans would live miserable disorganized violent lives. Even if they made through those times, it would be a reset button for mankind and a laborious archeological work to learn about life and history before the eruption. I understand your point that mankind could squeeze through those bad times, I was indeed thinking of a truly massive extinction event, rather than a total extinction.
>>15886182>Krakatoa explosion left a decade long scar on earth's temperature>How likely would it be for us to see a 10x, 100x or 1000x stronger explosion>What if the volcano is not violently exploding, but remains active for 100 yearsAnon, I want you to google these statements. Reform the sentences a bit, replace a few words.Learning how to google stuff is one of the most important things you will ever learn in your life (and I mean this 100% straight).The point of survival is just that; survival. The ONLY thing that matters at that point is creating a new generation and passing on our knowledge to them so that they can do the same.Yes, life will suck. No, it won't be as bad as you think (stable hierarchical systems tend to form organically). Life will continue to exist. Humankind will continue to exist.And eventually, after many, many generations, our descendants will be able to rebuild.By the way, I feel like my tone in my last post was a bit harsher than I intended and want to apologize for it.
Evil continues its petty attempts to discourage beings from improving anything.
>>15852598why dont they just put some ice cubes in it to cool it off?
>>15886387you don't believe in good and evil, you're an atheist, you don't have any consistent belief system
>>15885776A one degree c rise in temperature does not qualify as evidence of global warming. The models for climate change are good for understanding climate but not predicting what the climate will be. So is the sharp rise in temperature the only evidence for climate change?
>>15888371>A one degree c rise in temperature does not qualify as evidence of global warming.Any increase in the average global temperature is by definition global warming.As such, the measurements measuring an increase in average global temperature is direct evidence for global warming. >The models for climate change are good for understanding climate but not predicting what the climate will be.What models are you talking about? And why do you believe so?Just so that we're on the same level: we're not talking about models, we're talking about measurements.These measurements, to be precise: https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-temperatureAnd allow me to give you some unsolicited advice: any time you disagree with someone, tell them WHY you disagree with them.Just saying "no, you're wrong" brings absolutely nothing of value to any discussion, as the person you're talking will be forced to guess why you disagree.And guessing what someone thinks is folly of the highest degree.
>>15889657So temperatures in the mid troposphere tropics have risen by around 0.5 degrees from 1975 to 2015.Thanks for your contribution.
>>15889130>political organizations only tell lies>they never produce anything truthful That is a pretty impactful statement.Is it based on actual evidence or merely belief?
>>15856664>food insecurity means people are starving to death>completely ignoring the existence of food banks and community help
>>15889835>food banks and community helpFood banks don't have enough supplies to meet the demand and "community help"? You'd be in luck if your neighbour would agree to lend you an egg or two these days.https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-31/soaring-food-fuel-inflation-forces-u-s-food-banks-into-rationingPeople ARE starving. Ignoring the millions of people not having the means to get access to food just to win an internet argument is absolutely vile.
>oy vey the world is coming to an end because of global warming!!!>that means you need to gibes me all your money!!!>t. sciencehow low IQ do you have to be to fall for the global warming scam?
>>15890862given that 43% of people believe in global warming and presuming those are the 43% dumbest percent of people, you probably have to be somewhere in the mid-low 90s or less to fall for the global warming scam
>>15890862Even the most intelligent child can grow into a fool.Most people legitimately fearing climate change are part of the younger generation.They fear climate change because they have been taught to fear it.
>>15889835https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2023-04-13/deaths-from-malnutrition-have-more-than-doubled-in-the-u-s>The same trend occurred nationwide, with malnutrition deaths more than doubling, from about 9,300 deaths in 2018 to roughly 20,500 in 2022, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
>>15891655>They fear climate change because they have been taught to fear it.AKA brainwashed
>>15893077And just think, compulsory education has been ongoing for generations now
>>15862816communism is quintessentially jewish
Volcanoes usually contribute to global cooling more than warming by releasing ash and sulphur dioxide forming compounds, that act to block light transmission in the atmosphere.The CO2 released is really not that large compared to other sources.Mt st Helens for example only released as much CO2 as about 3 hours of global human activity.Historically it took obscenely large volcanic events like the Deccan or Siberian traps, releasing large amounts of CO2 over a long period, to meaningfully increase atmospheric C02.
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>>15895053That title sounded so retarded, I HAD to look up what the fuck that article contained.And holy shit, I hate it when journalists think they're scientists.
>>15891508bandwagon
>>15895432This. People tend to forget that normalfags "believe" in whatever is the current popular belief.
>>15895464you got it backwards, the current popular belief is defined by what most people thing is true >normalfagsof yeah, you're totally a super unique special snowflake genius and everyone is is a lesser creature. i totally believe you when you try to assert that. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662
>>15896772weird inferiority complex anon.
>>15896778Yeah its strange seeing people on 4chan, which is one of the most popular and well known social media sites on the internet, try to assert that they're some sort of unique special snowflake. The sekrit klub days are long gone, this site about a million new posts every day.
>>15895053This was specifically because it produced a large amount of water vapour
>>15896772Sci is full of narcissists, all of the IQ discourse here is based around it.
>>15897564yeah but out of all the retarded shit on here why are you particularly affected by THIS. I'm not even joking. I for example don't really give a fuck about this particular subject, yet you convinced yourself there's something wrong with it CLEARLY apart from it touching some sensible subject.
>>15896772>the current popular belief is defined by what most people thing is truelollmao
>>15898002Fuck off with your red earring, the vaccines are safe and effective and no amount of russian disinfo will change that fact.80% of the population vaccinated, and nothing bad happened, is happening and will happen.You just can't stop loosing, looser.
>>15898091Vaccines? Vaccinations? Russian disinformation? Anon please, what do you see me as, a pathetic /pol/fag?I just need a single word to completely shatter your worldview:Advertisements.
>>15896772>you're totally a super unique special snowflake genius and everyone is is a lesser creature.I am, I'm totally a genius with super high IQ. I can prove it: >I've never accomplished anything which suggests I have uniquely special thinking ability >I go to school like all the rest of the normies >I memorize the same textbooks and "facts" as all the rest of the normies See?
>>15853166I am going to punish these people. Lord willing.
>>15853181>requires all panels to be installed on the gridIt's almost like you are stupid and easily fooled.
Well, this thread aged poorly.
>>15900399any geological second now
>>15900399What do you mean, anon?Are you talking about the upcoming solar storm which is supposedly going to wreak havoc on the magnetic core, causing massive volcanic activity while also giving everyone super powers?
>>15898855
>>15901092cringe
>>15901092based
>>15853078mars recieves like 52w of sunlight, barely enough to warm a block of solid CO2
>>15902141>watts per square foot
>>15897821most volacanoes are underwater, the most volcanically region on the planet is underneath the west antarctic ice sheet
>>15852598It will not release more CO2 than all CO2 ever released by mankind, lol.
>>15856350Not yet, January 1st
>>15903362use per square cm, that'll make it look even smaller
>>15905312Do that and round to the nearest whole number. And just like that, Mars receives no energy from the sun whatsoever. Cancel Starship, fellas, Mars is now uninhabitable
>>15895053>volcanoes causing global warming againerrrry single time
>>15906966There was another massive eruption in Indonesia a couple days ago that the MSM barely covered because they don't want the general public to be aware of where CO2 actually comes from. 32 people died and 20 billion tons of CO2 were released.
>>15907776>20 billion tons of CO2 were releasedSource: your ass?
>>15852598Lol no. Humans produce 100x the emissions that all natural eruptions do.
>>15908985This isn't /pol/, you massive retard.Absurd statements require proof.
>>15853166>Hailstorm arrivesHeh, nothing personnel
>>15853166I've never quite understand the crazy rightist obsession with how "ugly" renewable energy looks.Like.. have you fuckers just not seen a coal plant or something? Environmentalism isn't about making sure you've got a nice backdrop while you curtain twitch at your neighbours, doreen.
>>15909158In case you're not trolling and just massively fucking retarded; there used to be forests where those solar farms now stand.Entire areas get deforested in order to make way for "renewable" energy production. And that's just for a few solar farms.The "bio-fuel" stuff gets even worse.
>>15909206And? O' fuck mate me fokin trees! Shoulda cut them down to make way for another McDonalds meat farm for your fatass right?
>>15909238...Tell me again what the purpose of renewable energy is?
>>15909276Yeah man you got me we gotta save literally every tree in order to protect the environment, truly I've been outsmarted.What the fuck are you, an elf?
>>15909302You're deflecting. Concession accepted.Next time, please think before you speak.
>>15909304>No no see if you call out my ridiculous argument for being ridiculous rather than fall for my trap you're deflectingUh judge? My debate opponent is retarded send me a new one.
>>15852598Wait, my ESG retraining and carbon credits were a hecking wasterino?
>>15909306>if you call out my ridiculous argument for being ridiculous rather than fall for my trap you're deflectingUh, yes. Yes, it is.The fact that you don't seem to understand this is pretty shocking, to be honest.
>>15909318Oh no I deflected, oh judge please dock my points because I don't bother responding to things that are so stupid they don't need a response. Please, continue to desperately campaign to protect every tree in order to stop environmentalists lmao
>>15909330What?
>>15909337Owned
>>15909342??????
>>15909348
>>15909363Anon, I don't think you quite understand.There is a retard in this thread, but it is not me.
>>15886315>By the way, I feel like my tone in my last post was a bit harsher than I intended and want to apologize for it.Kingly.
>no eruption 25 days later>BELIEVE THE SCIENCE, CHUD
>>15883635https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA
>>15909862ELIZA is a simple program that duped retarded boomers into thinking they were talking to a human.And I don't mean this in a "haha boomer dumb" kinda way, boomers are legitimately retarded.
>>15909862>wikipedia
>>15852598Do we have an estimate on the mass to be released?>>15857739>american glownig
