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WE GOING TO SPACE


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>>14478758
Can we add Jupiter Direct autist to the list
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>>14478766
big if true
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>>14478758
I hate Earthers so much it's unreal
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>>14478766
Wouldn't the divers till be visible?
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Raptor 5 second test fire 2 hours ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOmmvhDQ2HM
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>>14478788
Yes, when not edited out properly.
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>>14478789
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>>14478793
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1524958454137311234

> Guess who just exported the "final" draft of Pt 1 of my latest conversation w/
@elonmusk
... ok, I'll clue you in, THIS GUY. Patrons / YouTube members, check in a bit, I'll have the review link up so you can help catch any errors & assuming all goes well, video publishes Saturday!

Estronaut elon interview 2 coming out on saturday i guess
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>>14478834
Space cuck grifter

Btw, not clicking
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>>14478837
Ok
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>>14478793
>>14478796
nominal shutdown. no explosion
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>>14478834
someone here has his patreon, post it
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>>14478758
Scientifically, how likely is it that colonizing space will accomplish nothing besides spreading pointless suffering to other planets?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7nsv4n_Bgk
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>>14478849
https://reducing-suffering.org/omelas-and-space-colonization/
https://reducing-suffering.org/will-space-colonization-multiply-wild-animal-suffering/
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which would be cheaper to do
>launch rockets with nets to bring down LEO sats
>use space-to-space nets to bring down LEO sats
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>>14478855
What do you have against laser brooms?
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>>14478849
100%, because the mental ilness of nihilism/antinatalism, the mind-bending misery of modernity, and space travel all stem from the same root.
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>>14478849
>Hurr durr existence is suffering
>totally discounting all the joys of existence
Faggots
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>>14478849
Tech will most likely progress quicker if there is a mars colony and the new tech can subsequently be used on earth as well
Maybe the martians will even innovate some new more effective ways of governing and these then adopted on earth too
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>>14478860
>laser brooms
science fiction
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>>14478862
>totally discounting all the joys of existence
Such as?
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>Such as?
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>>14478861
Is antinatalism really a mental illness if modernity is mind-bendingly miserable? It seems like the logical conclusion of life being consistently terrible.
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>>14478875
>Life is good because... IT JUST IS, OKAY?!?!
>refuses to elaborate further
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>>14478870
Learning about the universe, reveling in its beauty, bringing joy to other people and yourself through hobbies and skills, developing yourself, jacking off. Those are some general examples form which inumerable specifics can be derived.
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>>14478881
Yes.
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>>14478877
>Is antinatalism really a mental illness
Yes.

>It seems like the logical conclusion of life being consistently terrible.
No, it's the empircal consequence of a broken system that makes vulnerable midwits (i.e. you) mentally ill.
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>>14478867
And taking down 27,000 pieces of debris with nets isn't? No one could afford that.
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>>14478881
Dial 8.
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>>14478849
Don't care either way. You things need to progress to a certain point so that I can leave this solar system and eat stars until it's time to suplex the Demiurge into the metaphysical mat so hard he dies.
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>>14478888
if we can afford to send 27k satellites, we can afford to send 27k nets
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>>14478855
>bring down
peasant take
use tug satellites to gather debris and dead sats into one spot to make a MEO junk moon
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>>14478905
but for what purpose
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>>14478870
Having a GF and going to a rocket museum with her
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>>14478915
To mine it, both for raw materials and still-usable components. Why would you send something BACK to earth after you've spent all that effort and money getting it into orbit? Why consign something to the clutches of earth once more after liberating it?
Also a space station latched on to the side of a rubble pile satellite junkyard sounds neat.
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>>14478870
Food.
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>>14478849
Suffering IS the point, faggot
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>NS4.? instead of NS4.8
>Implying that the booster could be destroyed
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>>14478870
Unironically love.
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>>14478870
Have you ever made something and someone told you it was cool/good? it's better than sex.
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>>14478965
This but unironically
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>>14478884
>>14478889
At least you admit you're retarded and have no actual argument
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>>14479014
>b-b-but muh arguments
What argument is there to be had? Antinatalists are mentally ill. Antinatalist arguments have zero sway on people who aren't mentally ill because antinatalist premises are completely alien to people who aren't mentally ill.
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>>14478957
Consider lighting yourself on fire so that you can suffer more
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>>14479021
>Antinatalist arguments have zero sway on people who are NPCs because antinatalist premises are completely alien to people who are NPCs.
FTFY
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>>14479030
You will never be human.
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>>14478960
Well you know what they say: don't count your boosters before they've launched.
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>>14479030
The prominence of actually antinatalism coincides with the prominence of modern mental illness and the raise of the NPC. Every other NPC is an antinatalist, or sympathizes with antinatalism, in constast with humanity's greatest thinkers, almost none of whom supported your mentally ill agenda.
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>>14479025
I don't exist, buckaroo, the suffering is for you guys
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Is this that new faction of incels i've been hearing so much about?
Honestly doesn't sound as funny as wanting to kill women but to each his own i guess.
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>>14479030
antinatalists want the extinction of humans, what is there to argue?
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>>14479043
its more generally about saying "you shouldn't have kids", its not really that new but for some reason has become kind of a normal position
not only "i don't want kids", but "if you have kids, you are bad, kids are bad for the environment"
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>>14479030
>yo live is suggering :(((
>i will continue mine ;((
Hypocritical
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https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1PlKQarOROaKE?t=ogs6O9wGdETP4b7EnvzSmQ&s=09

"Liftoff" writer Eric Berger interviews former NASA Deputy Administrator Lori Garver about commercial spaceflight, SpaceX and Elon Musk
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https://eu.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/2022/05/11/after-cruise-ship-scrubs-spacex-launch-coast-guard-fast-tracks-changes/9720954002/

> Coast Guard fast-tracks changes after cruise ship scrubs SpaceX launch
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>>14479068
That's just globalist tricks. White people can't have kids but mbungo in Nigeria can have 8
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>>14479085
> Vlaun said the incident was at least partly caused by the maritime industry's use of paper for disseminating information. Captains and crews are often notified of hazards via paper since noteworthy obstacles are usually static and don't change often.

>"In the maritime industry, rocks don't pop up overnight. Buoys don't move every day. We can publish these on paper," Vlaun said. "Four or five days or even a week old is probably still good data."

>"But five-day-old space launch information is not worth the paper it's printed on," he said, referencing constantly shifting timelines and last-minute updates that include new parameters like unique flight trajectories.
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>>14479085
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>>14479087
>the maritime industry's use of paper for disseminating information
What are they a fucking school district? This is sinful laziness.
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I had a dream which was basically half life
In which some backwater experimental fusion reactor blew up and linked other worlds
This can't happen, right?
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>>14479127
haha I wouldn't worry about it
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>suffering is bad
>you only suffer if alive
>therefore living is...le bad!
>you are concerned about the wellbeing of others
>this will cause suffering
>but suffering is bad
>you only experience this when alive
>???
>The only solu -ACK
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>>14479158
Y-yeah haha
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>>14479125
13 bil budget bro, they probably need a few bil more to modernize to phones or something
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>>14479127
it already happened, the aliens are just hiding
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>>14479127
CERN
It already begun 13 years 5 months and 19 fays ago
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>>14479127
other "realities" don't exist in the way you think. The chances of the universe existing are so infinitely small that ours is the only one in an infinity. Try going to another dimension and all you'll find is unexpanded space, ala pre big bang, except there never has been or ever will be a big bang in any universe besides our own. Good for ftl travel though, because spacetime was expanded by the big bang, an equivalent distance in a dimension without one is at a ratio of something like an inch to a lightyear or something, I forgot the exact number
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>>14479197
>source:
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>>14479185
kek
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>>14479068
Antinatalism isnt about kids being bad for the environment. It's about the pain and suffering that you inflict upon someone by bringing them into being. Nonexisters have literally zero worries.
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>It's about the pain and suffering that you inflict upon someone by bringing them into being. Nonexisters have literally zero worries.
Imagine being this dysgenic.
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>>14479223
>It's about the pain and suffering that you inflict upon someone by bringing them into being
Why should anyone care about this?
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>14479223
>Worrying about others
>nonexisters have zero worries
its not that easy in rocketry
but it certainly is that easy in hipocrisy
medical advice? kill yourself
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>>14479197
>we have an infinitesimally small chance of existing and just got really stupid lucky somehow
vs
>we have a 100% chance of existing because god made us
things like this make me wish I wasn't an atheist.
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Stop feeding this tard
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>>14479233
A parent not caring about their children is terrible.

>>14479223
You're not going to convince anyone to not have children because sex feels good.
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>>14479249
>A parent not caring about their children is terrible.
Why does "caring about your children" have to include your antinatalist wank?
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antinatalists need to walk their talk and rope themselves
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>>14479253
Because being a parent involved caring about their from before they are even born. A poor person bringing a child to the world is terrible because their child will suffer all the destitutions that you suffered plus more.
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>>14479197
you goof, if you go to another dimension then you're in the place where /that/ universe is the only one in an infinity
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>>14479257
>Because being a parent involved caring about their from before they are even born
Why does caring about them before they are born have to include your antinatalist wank?
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>>14479260
I never liked those moralizing bears anyway.
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>>14479261
What are you talking about? Anti-natalism is a right choice from the start if you even care about the future of your child's suffering. Otherwise, live in bliss of ignorance and procreate. Then wonder why your child is suffering in this world.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/tobyliiiiiiiiii/status/1524810319364689945
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>>14479257
Those fucking dumb assholes have a duty to continue my bloodline
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>>14479263
>Anti-natalism is a right choice
Why?
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>>14479263
suffering is part of life, are you even human if you don't have it?
imagine being hooked up into some brain-interface where all you experience is constant happiness and joy, feel no pain
whats the point? you are basically a vegetable
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>>14479264
Enjoy your 14 day diurnal cycle
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>>14479269
You have to continue to read and accept that suffering of your child is bad. Otherwise, we can't get through this. If you believe raping your children is good because suffering isn't bad, or that beating your child to death with a club because of your alcoholism is good because their suffering isn't bad, then we're talking past each other.
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>>14479271
>suffering is part of life
Thats because because your parents choose to bring suffering to you. They're part of the problem that brought suffering to your existence.
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>>14479274
so what?
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mmmh hello?
spaceflight?
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>>14479276
>>14479273
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>>14479273
>suffering of your child is bad.
Sure. So what? How do you get from "X is bad" to "any degree of X must be avoided at all costs"?
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>>14479279
There's no "all costs" there's no cost to not procreating and not bringing suffering to your children. There's all the cost to bringing suffering to your children.
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Stop responding to the antinatalist, he shits up threads quickly because it’s such an unthinkably retarded concept in game theory. Stop responding every time he decides to duck into the thread every once in a while to fuck up discussion about spaceflight.
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>>14479282
>There's no "all costs"
Since we're considering potential people here (your cult's idea), my kid loses out on life. That's sad! :^(
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>>14479282
of course there is, you also eliminate all the joys the kid could have, the joy you have, further the extinction of the human race and so on
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>>14479289
No one cries about nutting daily and throwing away trillions of sperms.
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>>14479291
Not relevant. Since we're supposed to accept the premise that we have a responsibility towards people that don't exist (according to you), I would hate to deprive my child of a life.
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>>14479290
>>14479282

to add to this, most people see the benefits to massively outweigh the drawbacks (some suffering)
you treat any suffering at all somehow as outweighing everything else possible, its fucking retarded
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>>14479290
You're not responsible for extinction of human race, further more, at the very least, if you really want to bring a child to the world, you must do so in such a way that the most basic necessity of your children will never be compromised, aka the financial security.

99% of children born aren't born in a secure funding.
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SPACE FLIGHT GENERAL
FLYING IN SPACE GENERAL
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Still waiting for antinatalism troons to explain why I should care about my duties towards people that don't exist, but only in ways that are compatible with antinatalist troon agendas.
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>>14479313
only if cucking your brother
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space?
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https://webb.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunch/whereIsWebb.html

the where is Webb page has been updated to include progress of instrument calibrations
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https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1PlKQarOROaKE

The entire stream is interesting for space industry.
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>>14479087
Why not just force SpaceX to keep a schedule, fucking asshats
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>>14479065
anti-natalists are the moderates when it comes to negative utilitarianism
there are radical suffering abolitionists, who wish for eradication of pain by extinction of all life in the universe

if you anyone plans on writing a novel or something, they would be great to base fictional terrorist sect about.
Killing billions to save quadrillions from suffering in the future is the kind of batshit crazy logic religious fanatics operate on.
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>>14479089
Everything they are talking about is like 2 weeks work for one guy
Goddamn bureaucrats
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>>14479324
what is that in your picture?
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New Starlink availability map. Lot of countries are available.
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>>14479331
its not only about the schedule, its about the different flight trajectories changing the exclusion zone, which means that the ships can probably still leave and come, but have to perhaps go the long way around or something
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>>14479346
lmao, what is the brown supposed to indicate? Bad goy cunts?
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>>14479346
First worlder bros... we won.
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>>14479346
it also has info when stuff is coming or expanding, i wonder if places like africa are just going to be served by laserlinks and then have the groundstations in western/developed countries so some random nigger doesnt steal the radomes to use as a pot or something
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>>14479352
>China
>Russia
>Iran
>Cuba
>Veneuzela
Commies and dictatorships
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>>14479352
not coming in the foreseeable future, probably due to sanctions and/or the country not allowing them
I would guess Iran, venezuela, russia and belarus are due to sanctions and china probably due to them simply not allowing it as people would get around the firewall easier I guess
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>>14479274
I’m glad my parents had me, can’t say the same about yours
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>>14479324
It looks like melting chocolate ice cream
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>>14479125
Space is hard. Paper is proven technology.
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>>14478758
hmm?
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>>14479125
All marine vessels should require the use of internet when they are docking/leaving atleast to get the updated data.
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>>14479125
Paper can’t be hacked or easily changed. In a lot of ways it’s more secure than online data
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>>14478758
>OP pic is not of the black hole
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>>14479378
Planet-centric viewmodels don’t really make intuitive sense. All orbits are circles, it’s why I don’t use this mod honestly
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heliocentrists get the rope
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>>14479197
you misunderstand, there is no space without the universe
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>>14479324
l want to fuck the planet vagoo
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>>14479500
anon
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Today this ugly piece of shit is going back for Raptor 2 install
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https://spacenews.com/chinese-rocket-company-suffers-third-consecutive-launch-failure/
>An orbital launch attempt by Chinese startup iSpace suffered failure early Friday, following on from two failures last year.
du du du, another one bites the dust
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where are the estronaut walkarounds?
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>>14479569
NET Saturday
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>>14479520
Really? Nsf said they'll remove it from the stand.
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>>14479594
correct
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https://twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1525085931669168129
>Countries where Starlink is not "coming soon:"

>Afghanistan
>Belarus
>Cuba
>China
>Iran
>North Korea
>Russia
>Syria
>Venezuela
lmao
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>>14478758
It's nice being the person behind this pic
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>>14479346
1 month ago
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>>14479328
>NASA had spent a billion per astronaut sent into orbit before Commercial Crew (350 billion spent since Apollo)
>Now SpaceX charges 55 million
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>>14479714
>a billion per astronaut sent into orbit before Commercial Crew
This seems excessive. Soyuz seats were like $80 million, and a Shuttle was like half a billion per launch, and carries 7 astronauts.
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>>14479680
>tfw no comfy taliban shitposts via starlink
Bantz would be legendary
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SN16 got decapitated. The megabay killed it.
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>>14479738
WTF
yameroooo
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>>14479720
>half a billion per launch
I think that's an extreme lower bound of the estimate, usual figures I've seen exceed one billion, but that's still less than Lori's claim.
NASA annual budget's averaged 20 billion from 1970 to 2010, that's 800 billion. How much of that was for human spaceflight? The wiki claims the Shuttle program cost 196 billion, still a bit short. Maybe Lori meant all the costs related to humans in space?
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>>14479125
Up until the past few years, marine Internet was a joke. Now even a sailboat can mount some solar panels on the deck and use cell phones when close to shore, and soon Starlink when under way. The hardest part of that will be gyro-stabilized antenna mounts since ships move in three axes on the waves.
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>>14479328
>10,000 USD to send one kilogram into orbit
>will cost a lot more to remove that kilogram (deorbit it)
The panel appears pessimistic that de-orbiting junk will be met by the market any time soon
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>>14479792
Simply make a giant sheet of jello to catch all the debris. EZ
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Nukechads keep winning.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/is-this-man-talking-california-into-nuclear-power-11651264431
>A recent UC Berkeley poll co-sponsored by The Times found that 44% of California voters support building more nuclear reactors in the Golden State, with 37% opposed and 19% undecided — a significant change from the 1980s and 1990s.
>The poll also found that 39% of voters oppose shutting down Diablo Canyon, with 33% supporting closure and 28% unsure.

>mfw even Californians are coming around because nukes keep the lights on and enable carbon capture and desalination

Sorry, Casey. Maybe you can build the panels for Mars.
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>>14479794
Or lasers in space to melt small shit the size of a quarter

While larger detectable objects can be avoided
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>>14479794
>>14479796
Quick, tell them!
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>>14479798
What who? We're already doing two of those, avoidance and there are some debris capture program.

Laser melting may likely be met with military hesitancy due to weaponization of space.
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>>14479795
is that enough to change the insane peoples minds that are in power?
the lobbying by "green" groups (paid by the oil and gas industry) has been relentless for decades
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>>14479800
It depends how hard Newsom cheats this fall.
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>>14479738
spacex has now destroyed more launch vehicles than have been built for artemis
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>>14479799
So just use the lasers to melt anyone who complains lmao.
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>>14479806
you can't solve every problem with violence
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>>14479340
Phobos, Stickney crater.
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>>14479627
Alright, I thought that engines would be installed while Booster was on the OLM.
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>>14479812
If you can't solve a problem with violence, you are clearly not using enough violence.
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>>14479840
>If you can't solve a problem with SRBs, you are clearly not using enough SRBs.
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>>14479892
Yes.
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SRB is haram
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SRBs are violence
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>>14479310
Troons don't exist, because they are pretending to be something they aren't. Thus to acknowledge a troon would be deny existence
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>>14479795
>enable carbon capture
Nigga just grow some trees and dump them in the ocean you don't need nukes for that retard
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>>14479909
>three shuttle SRBs and seven Delta II kerolox cores
Why the fuck weren't they mass producing these in the 90s to loft the ISS? Look at the size of that fairing!
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>>14479934
Electric powered carbon capture lets you convert it right back into diesel or RP-1.
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>>14479909
This is actually dope as fuck
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https://twitter.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1525138866348257281

More estronaut Elon interview shorts about the Starlink dispenser door
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>>14479953
Eatronaut is such a faggot, just release the walkabout
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>>14479331
Why not just force weather to be calm when Spacex is scheduled to launch?
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>>14479953
Dispenser door reminds me of the 747 Air Launched Cruise Missile dispenser concept from the 80s
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>>14479523
>be given a functional rocket by the Chinese government
>fail to make orbit
>three times
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>>14479892
That's right.
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>>14479934
>dump trees into ocean
anon...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbtbqnGAtrc

Axiom post mission experience
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>>14479380
>Paper can’t be hacked or easily changed
There are entire industries for doing that
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>>14480000
Checked
Is there anything more kino than this man in the history of spaceflight?
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What do you predict will be the biggest discoveries by JWST?

When I read that one of Hubble's biggest achievements is mapping dark matter I question their legitimacy. So much of astrophysics is pure bullshit, it does not deserve to be called a scientific field.
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>>14478766
How do you explain me seeing shadows being affected by the craters on the moon through my own eyes or the rotation of the moons of jupiter and movement of the cloud bands you fucking stupid black gorilla nigger.
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>>14479500
anon that object is not spherical at all and this fact should hint at you that it doesnt have enough mass to be a planet
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>>14478861
lol leave sfg if you hate space travel so much kike
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>>14479520
look like one of those tokamak reactors
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>>14479935
>Why the fuck weren't they mass producing these in the 90s to loft the ISS?
But then its harder to justify the Space Shittle, can't have that!
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>>14480015
Didn't they say it would be able to detect industrialization on planets or some shit?
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>>14479795
just build one huge plant in those mountains near LA and cool it with cooling towers. Its the safest way
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>>14479014
just kill yourself ok? stream it for us too
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>>14479520
So how did they fix it? Pablo went inside the downcomer and pounded it with a hammer?
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>>14480015
>What do you predict will be the biggest discoveries by JWST?
Well the discovery of certain atmospheres on some exoplanets will take center stsage. But the early universe discoveries will be important too
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>>14478881
the brain produces chemicals to make people happy if they have healthy neurochemistry
so it literally just it dilbert
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>>14479970
They sink eventually
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>>14480024
Anon.. it is many things but tokamak it is not
That's a fucking stellarator.
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>>14478977
>Have you ever made something and someone told you it was cool/good?
tell us more. I once made thing and people told me its cool
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>>14480043
ok
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>>14480046
almost dragon level plumbery
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>>14480000
>Spent 20 mins cropping, converting and removing the audio.
>1 reply
:(
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>>14479792
>10,000 USD to send one kilogram into orbit
this is false. cheapest market option right now is 540000 for reused falcon 9 boosters for 16250 kilograms to LEO, or 3323$/kg to leo. why do these organizations responsible for calculating economic viability of space industries always use calculations from like 2010?
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>>14479909
Imagine the vibrations
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>>14479998
>hacking or changing papers
do you mean forging?
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>Patrons / Members, the review link is live, everyone else it’ll hopefully be published tomorrow (assuming I find good enough internet)
patron fag, get us the link now
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Lunch in 5 bongs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG6AwvGPd-E
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Sagittarius A*
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>>14480053
Many such cases
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>>14480000
We did already, 50 years without even venturing beyond LEO. He must be rolling in his grave.
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>>14480026
that sounds like some meme extrapolation to appeal to pop-sci retards
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>>14480082
fake interpreted data bullshit
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>>14480165
The data is real, the interpretation is fake
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>>14479346
I can't wait for all of Africa to get internet and for social media to be flooded with millions of Africans talking about how much they want to genocide their neighbors.
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>>14480082
sample-return mission when?
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>>14480015
>So much of astrophysics is pure bullshit
It's very easy to ignorantly dismiss something, it's much harder to disprove standard cosmology or formulate a new cosmology which can explain the data (pic related) without new assumptions.
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>>14480213
Whenever there is data that disproves them they just fit the curves again. That's the problem. Most of their theories are unscientific and impossible to disprove.
> it's much harder to disprove
This applies to everything. Prove that there is no god.
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>>14480199
Going to be kino
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>>14480228
trust the science
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When will we be unironically two weeks away from Starship hop?
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>>14480241
In two weeks
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>>14480234
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>>14480228
Thats not how it works retard
You take the simplest explanation that fits the fact without too much ad hoc stuff, new data is gathered just to disprove the current theories (that should presict fit multiple data that regard the phwnomenon from different virepoints) constantly, that is how science progresses

Disproving god is impossible, disproving scientific theories is thebedrock of science, big difference
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>>14480105
too close
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>>14480105
Embarrassing.
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>>14480053
I spend many times that a day jacking off. Do not dwell on wasted time
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>>14480228
If an observation can be resolved by fitting parameters then it never disproved it. Something being disproven is final, it means it cannot be reconciled with the data with any amount of fitting. You don't understand what it means. And no, these models are not infinitely flexible, that's a load of shit.
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Anyone got the link to estronaut's musk interview preview?
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>>14480213
this is too abstract for me anon. Curved space time, light-years, space that expands, places where time stops... yeah I will stick with the young earth hypothesis
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>>14480275
Tomorrow
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>>14479332
Anon, Machikado Mazoku
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>>14479795
Public opinion is inconsequential, no government can afford to build many nuclear plants.

Also if you got that image from /sfg/ you got it from me and I disavow you sullying it with retarded nuclear shitposting.
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>>14480213
astroanon are you excited for the preliminary Webb results
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>>14479360
The glowniggers want to use Starlink for firewall and monitor free internet access in China
Allowing Starlink in China will make it impossible for the Chinese to track them down with passive listening posts
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>>14480282
>no government can afford to build many nuclear plants
According to whom?
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>>14479384
If you can turn it on and off it's helpful for planning reentries for spaceplanes so you can land on the runway instead of hoping you land near Dessert or KSC
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A tour at Starbase?
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>>14480292
Wow, two dozen reactors that were planned ages ago and located mostly on existing nuclear sites. Nuclear bros we are winning!
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>>14480306
Why are you moving the goalpost?
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>>14480301
One of many
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>>14480306
WE need to start building massive and efficient nuclear power plants.
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>>14480330
I'd prefer us to build large collections of mid sized SMRs instead of big monolithic reactors, but yes.
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>>14480311
It's not moving the goal posts, the world is a big place and two dozen of anything isn't many, as shown by the fact that they are barely managing to replace all the reactors that are being retired and the average reactor age is only increasing. Once the US and France retire most of their reactors that graph will look like a bell curve. China was responsible for many of the recent installations but they've seriously pulled back their nuclear ambitions.

Last (you) from me, you're free to remain delusional.
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>>14480301
They do a lot of goodwill/PR tours for government officials/environmental groups etc to try and keep any pushback to a minimum.
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>>14479197
>try going to another dimension and all you will find is unexpanded space
Using this line of thinking, what if entering another dimension IS the catalyst for a big bang? What if some asshat in another dimension whoopsied his ways into another dimension, causing his own universe to collapse and get sucked through the tear, expelled into "ours", and this is what the universe is now?
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>>14480279
It's out for paypiggies. The last interview previews were posted here, I wonder where that anon is
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>>14480356
>China was responsible for many of the recent installations but they've seriously pulled back their nuclear ambitions.
Because they are facing total regime collapse within 15 yrs
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B-bros?
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>>14480445
It has been brought to my attention that there are chinamen here RIGHT NOW who have not been reminded in the last 30 seconds that Xi Jingping is a dum fathead who looks like Winnie The Pooh.
Lets have a quick rundown on are bear and I’ll let them decide how Xi stacks up next to him, because maybe that's unfair

1. Winnie the Pooh is a fat bear that wears no pants
2. Winnie the Pooh enjoys hunny (honey) and his most famous adventure of all is the story of his retrieving hunny at great risk to himself from bees by pretending to be a raincloud and then enjoying the fruits of his labor obtained by the sweat of his brow
3. Winnie The Pooh (who looks like Xi Jingping) is not a communist
4. Winnie The Pooh has never once lost in a fight to cute little birds that he thought were threatening his power over the Hundred Acre Wood
5. Winnie The Pooh knows what he doesn't know and isn't afraid to ask for help from his frens, which he has
6. Winnie the Pooh’s pal Gopher can innovate and knows the difference between high quality steel and pig iron
7. Winnie the pooh has never massacred citizens of the Hundred Acre wood with tanks
8. Winnie the Pooh maybe has a fat head but he’s actually a very intelligent bear
9. Winnie The Pooh (who, again, looks like Xi Jingping if you put pants on him) is a beloved figure across all of the world and you can gauge a man’s character by what he thinks of Winnie

Decide for yourself.

Can you imagine looking like Winnie The Pooh? A bear that wears no pants. Now I’m a huge fan of Poohbear, but looking like him? What kind of buffoon would allow such a Winnie The Pooh nopantswearing son of a bitch to be the leader of even a local deli, let alone be his slave? I guess what I’m trying to say here is that Xi Jingping looks like Winnie The Pooh, a fat bear that wears no pants, and if I were his subject (slave) I’d kill myself.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/JeffBezos/status/1525199472413888514

So bezos has started ahipoating too, when will he focus on BO instead floating on a yacht?
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>>14479939
NTA but you would never use nuclear energy for that, the high electricity cost would require highly efficient power-to-gas plants so you would be paying out the ass in two ways. SpaceX for example will probably buy solar and wind energy for a future e-methane plant and operate it at full capacity only when energy prices are cheap. The plant wouldn't have to be located anywhere near Boca Chica in order for them to be carbon neutral, they also probably wouldn't need to produce the same amount they consume because some of the carbon will end up outside of the atmosphere.

That or they just pay someone like Casey Handmer to do it for them. It's only a matter of time, rockets are just a tiny part of global emissions but once Starship starts launching frequently the amount of kvetching will be intense.
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>>14479324
Imagine walking on this, bros
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>>14480463
>>14480466
Even his shitposts are so lame
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>muh muh leo space junk
>it's gonna cost trillions to clean up!
Lol.
Lmao.

Does anyone else just think it's kind of a non issue, and will only taken seriously once when it blows up a rocket or some shit and then some group of dorks will come up with something elegant and simple to de-orbit the majority of it.
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>>14478870
Tricking /sfg/anons into looking at Krystal porn
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>>14480472
>walking
you push too hard & you're exceeding escape velocity
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>>14480504
>push too hard and exceed escape velocity
>get constipated and take a grunter, lob myself in the void
Kino.
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>>14478977
>implying he's had sex
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Why are trans people almost always autists? I see so many fag flags and she/her on twitter accounts that post about space
Has this been researched?
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>>14480228
Science isn't black box machine learning models.
Yet.
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>>14480496
>something elegant and simple to de-orbit the majority of it.
Ahem, laser broom. I don't know why people presume it requires some type of science fiction death ray and the idea of sending spacecraft to tens of thousands of different orbits in order to collect debris is utter madness.

According to research done by the Los Alamos National Lab:
> A laser of just 20kW average power and state-of-the-art detection capabilities could clear near-Earth space below 1100km altitude of all space debris larger than 1 cm but less massive than 100kg in about 4 years.
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>>14480533
Because the space industry for a long time has been limited to college educated people who live in urban centers, spacex for example heavily recruits from california. You aren't gonna find lots of right wingers or even apolitical people from those regions of the country.
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>>14480542
Just one laser? Why hasnt this been tested yet
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>>14480533
Also twitter banned most of the right wingers a while ago
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>>14480553
Elon will bring them back
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>>14480533
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>>14480284
I am indeed. It's nice to see excited the community is and people in general, and it's such a leap in capability that there is lots of exciting stuff on the table. I'll make some shitty images myself when the ERS gets published.
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>>14480563
Yes, but why?
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>>14480105
Those joints are soo bad
Can't wait to see those burning right off on reentry. I doubt even the active cooling by leaking methane through it will help
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>>14480572
Center path is the default. Lefty autists basically get bullied into trooning out. Right wing autists are the ones who the world won't leave alone to maek rogget but aren't susceptible to leftism.
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>>14480550
It would effectively be a weak anti-satellite or anti-hypersonic-missile weapon so perhaps various governments and some members of the science community are weary about starting some type of laser arms race. In fact the US government sanctioned China for developing a much more powerful 1 MW space laser but they seem undeterred.
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>>14480351
SMRs are for cucks, reducing the cost of the nuclear island doesn't mean much in the long run if the secondary ends up being the same price. Large reactors aren't going anywhere due to economies of scale so it's best to embrace large MSRs
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>>14480611
>FEED ME FISSIONABLES
I wanna throw some lithium in there bros
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>>14480504
I feel like Mars would be larger in the sky viewed from Phobos' surface but hey I could be wrong
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>>14480631
I think its Deimos
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>>14480611
This is just an engineered criticality accident
Those numbers are terrifying
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*zaps the gay out of your satellite*
Nothin' personnel, kiddo
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>>14480611
>molten salts
*starts leaking*
heh, nothin personnel
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>>14480611
Based and Pheil-pilled. Terrapower's MCFR is going to beat them to market though.
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>>14480675
>Bill Gates will get up to 4 billion from the government for his shitty SFR demonstration reactor
>He uses the money saved to short the hell out of Telsa stock and forcibly vaccinate the masses
Thank you government and nuclear fanboys, very cool.
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>>14480673
I wonder what is the intended lifespan for MSRs. Seems kinda corrosive to pipe around molten salts..
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>>14480722
Must wait for the meltdown to know.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG6AwvGPd-E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFDkWL2Hmh8
two starlink streams that aren't live yet
110 people got the wrong one lol
20 bongs btw
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>>14479346
So how does starlink 2 factor into this?
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>>14480727
It's already molten, dummy.
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stream live
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>new intro
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https://youtu.be/bG6AwvGPd-E

LIVE

https://youtu.be/UUNND75rqKA
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cool
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This asian twink commentator really gets on my nerves.
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>>14480787
It's so funny to me that so many asian americans have a noticeable accent. Like how does that work even?
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>>14480797
thousands of years of eating rice instead of real food
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>>14480797
phrenology was right, their skulls are different
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>>14480781
Max Qute
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Tried to get video of the launch but I put my phone away right when it started so it was too late to get anything good
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EARTHER (derogatory)
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Most botched landing feed in a while. Lost telemetry, no landing footage, off center. Shameful.
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SpaceX can't keep getting away with it
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>>14480828
>>14480830
cgi
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>>14480200
54022
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>>14480772
Yeah but the melt isn't down yet
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>>14480829
crazy to think Falcon 9 has already exceeded the number of Shuttle launches, and are only a month or two away from surpassing the Delta II and Titan III
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>>14480826
TERRANIGGA (Affectionate)
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>>14478849
Absolutely ludicrously awful bait, but you got the (You)s so its on /sci/ this time
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>>14480638
with a surface gravity on 0.003 m/s2, you wouldn't have people jumping around like that but it could just be an artistic liberty.
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>6 power plants in texas broke down due to "heat" (mildly warm may weather)
Starbase will need a private nuclear reactor or some shit, this is ridiculous.
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>>14480995
Wow if only there had been some event a few years ago that demonstrated how shit and poorly maintained Texas electrical grid was. Maybe one that also severely damaged the grid and was left unresolved because abbott is a corrupt cunt? Cant think of anything
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>>14481003
he's a fine governor and a good man
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>>14480995
Build awnings over them.
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https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/1525170882779312128
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>>14481073
lmao shelby fucking MOGGS bruno
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>>14481089
Chris Kemp and Elon are both much taller than Tory.
>hobbitspace BTFO
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>>14481073
REMEMBER WHAT THEY TOOK FROM YOU
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>>14479704
>>14479346
In a US wait list area, have starlink for a month. neat
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>>14481073
What a pair of ugly bastards.
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>>14480781
Faggot
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>>14481093
but the rocketlab guy literally looks like a hobbit
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>>14481160
Rocketry height chart when?
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Does spacex just forget to scrub launches nowadays?
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Dr. Robert Zubrin (/ˈzuːbrJn/; born April 9, 1952)
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>>14480018
>I can see it so it must be real
Do you also believe Homer Simpson exists?
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THERE ARE TWO CREWED SPACE STATIONS ON ORBIT RIGHT NOW
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>>14481218
Nowhere close to enough
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>>14481187
Maybe they've been quietly pushing the envelope on weather parameters just to see what F9 can really take. Maybe they've turned Dojo loose on Florida weather patterns and know when to launch. Maybe it's just a good few months.
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>>14481208
Sorry jew faggot. I can see it with my own eyes so some jewboy faggot on 4chan isn't gonna convince me otherwise. Just like you aren't gonna convince me that race isn't real.
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>>14481218
We need to bump those numbers up, people!
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>>14481218
No one ever talks about Tiangong here. They are launching another crew in a few weeks and are putting in two new modules by October. It's still not ISS size, but they are steaming ahead with it.
Also next year they are putting a fuck off big telescope into co-orbit with the station. Nearly as good as JWST, but if (when) something goes wrong they can go to repairs.

> Rise up Taikocels
> Strong like oxen
> Fry like sky dragon
> Shame NASA into tears
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>>14481073
Snakes.
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>>14481160
Yes, he's also BTFO.
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>>14481239
China's got things to criticize, but Mir with Chinese attributes isn't one of them. Each of those modules is going to be going up on a CZ-5B, so we'll get a couple good rounds of reentry roulette out of it, which should be pretty fun.
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>>14481105
based depot
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I am tired of Earth. These people. I'm tired of being caught in the tangle of their lives. They claim their labours are to build a heaven, yet their heaven is populated with horrors. Perhaps the world is not made. Perhaps nothing is made. A clock without a craftsman. It's too late. Always has been. Always will be. Too late.
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>>14481264
yeah
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>>14481262
Yeah we made that version of the image a few years back
I don't know if the archives cover /sci/ from that period but if they do you can find it with the md5
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>>14481264
We've been here before, before the last Ice Age began ending. We'll probably reach it again, 10k+ years from now.
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>>14481264
Why didnt he just take total control as a world dictator? People would not have been able to stop him
Or i guess the point is that wouldnt work either?
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now that i'm done with the semester i feel like starting a ksp career with all the interstellar travel and colonization mods
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>>14481288
It's been a long time since a read or watched any media relating to this but I believe the canon is that everything is predetermined and has already happened so he follows it like a script. It's intended analogous to the average man, everything you've ever done is what would have happened anyway. All your based moments, all your cringe moments, someone with your genetics and life experience would choose to do the same thing every time.
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>>14481240
Would
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>>14478870
Fucking dolphins
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>>14481073
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>>14480553
Good. rightwingers are trash.
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>>14481413
sneedthing tankie
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Hypothetically, say you were a colonist leader on a habitable exoplanet with cobtinental-sized resources, and came upon a primitive civilization, what would you do next?

For me, I’d create a hunger games-esque tournament, except also give them live streaming gopros and meth to earn survivability sponsors.
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>>14481458
Orgies
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>>14481458
I would try to uplift them, or perhaps co ntain se they dont become a threat
Are these humans or aliens?
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Trade and learn from natives on what is good/bad, then expand forward with knowledge. Let them come to you for advancements while leaving them alone.
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>>14481474
>not pulling an Avatar and incinerating the blue monkeys
NGMI
The humans did nothing wrong by the way
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>>14481458
Are they attractive women? This is very important.
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>>14481458
If they were hot, I'd fuck them. If the weren't, I would exterminate them.
The threshold for hotness is very low.
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>>14481458
exterminate. the universe is for humans
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>>14481481
No need to do that. Instead letting them have autonomy and mingling will help the fragile colony survive harsh years to come. The question of incineration without any benefit is a waste of time, effort and possible future. These locals may instead be a guide against the whole world in combating other hostile tribes, animals, environments, etc.
Think native American guides for early settlers and expansion forward.
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>>14481481
You know the next 4 movies are releasing soon
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>>14481533
James Cameron is a hack, this cannot be justified unless it is turned into a dunc-tier thesis about spaceflight, or escalate into an antimatter weapon annihilating Pandora.
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>>14481529
That's some straight up fag shit. It's better to genocide them right off rather than live them begging for reparations a generation or two down the road. Anything can be learned from them wouldn't be worth the time once good human scientists have explored the land
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>>14481187
Hurricane season is just around the corner
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>>14481187
They know their limits and are pushing it to the limit
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>>14481566
~Push it to the limit!
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>>14481563
Just launch an empty F9 during a hurricane and make it fight the wind to orbit
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>>14481578
You need fuel to launch F9. F9 with fuel is 1.2 million lbs. Payloads are 50 thousand lbs. 4%.
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>>14481578
>Gets fucking shredded by the wind
It's not that easy in rocketry
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>>14481593
Okay, launch it during the eye for kino footage
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>>14480356
That's right, but what do you think is the cause? Looking at my country, I see massive schizophrenia caused by fossil fuel lobby and "environmentalists". Looking at California, I see corrupt politicians that were actively fighting against nuclear power.
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Hop when?
no serioudly when is the fucking orbital test habbening im tired of waiting for it ill go arson the FAA if they delay it by one month in minecraft
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>>14481617
>arson
doxing using public information is more effective
But FAA thing is basically done, and if it's a FONSI, maybe 1 month after.
If the survey fucks them, then probably another year after the Florida site is fully operational.
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>>14481617
good news is that faa delays are probably over now, the section 106 review or whatever its called was completed. we're probably gonna see several months of raptor firing testing on superheavy before launch, so expect to see launch anywhere from late summer to fall (for real this time)
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>>14481617
2 weeks for another possible delay
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>>14481617
We won't see a hop for a long time, the next test is static fire (probably more than one) and then the orbital test.
If you look at flyover photos, you'll see that methane tanks are now overlapping the landing pad. So the only way to do a hop and recover a ship is to catch it.
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>>14481630
>N-NOOO YOU CANT USE PROPULSIVE LANDING TO LAND NEXT TO METHANE TANKS!!!
Only if you’re not a pussy.
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So how many launches has SpaceX done this year so far? And how many weeks have there been this year?
>>14481630
Next hop we might see could be them hopping tanker starships to the floating platforms in the gulf lol
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>>14481563
That's why TROPICS is launching soon, to capture data from this year's storms! LV0010 is almost ready to put in the box and ship to the Cape.
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>>14481636
>So how many launches has SpaceX done this year so far? And how many weeks have there been this year?
21 so far, within 19 weeks. It will be 22 launches if they launch in sunday again.
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>>14481650
Damn, more then 1 launch per week launch frequency already. Maybe 60 launches really is a possibility.
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>>14481073
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU8qW-k3tF0&ab_channel=ColonelSWOLEders
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Who digs tunnels on Mars?
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the ayys
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>>14481699
MAN WITH A SHOVEL
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>>14481699
Me.
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>>14481699
It's my headcanon that some /k/ommando built a rocket, flew to Mars, and is now digging an entire underground city with a shovel and pickaxe.
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>>14481720
Moleman lives
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>>14481699
This is real, of course.
https://mars.nasa.gov/raw_images/1064629/?site=msl
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>>14481720
is he going slowly enough?
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wtf
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>>14481606
What of the early history of nuclear before Chernobyl scared the world? Nuclear plants were still expensive their creation required excessive government spending as the payback period was too long to warrant much private investment. Nearly every improvement in safety or efficiency since then has only added to the cost and countries like China have figured out that removing red tape or reducing construction time still doesn't make it cost effective, it will have the highest capital cost of any major source of power. The final nail in the coffin is that most energy markets underwent liberalisation and electricity is now being bought and sold like any other commodity so the last thing you want is expensive baseload power because it will often end up without any buyer, you may even have to pay someone to take it from you if you have district heating contracts to meet so turning down or shutting off the plant isn't an option.

Of course there is always a new and better nuclear plant someone is pitching, some of them may actually be a step in the right direction if they are more power dense than traditional plants or they reduce complexity but without a major breakthrough in material science or whatever the fuck nuclear as a source of power will remain untenable, it's like rooting for a corpse.
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>>14481610
What kind of lens are they using? That looks surprisingly close.
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>>14481610
>>14481732
Wait... That appears to be taken from inside Dragon shortly after separation, not from the ISS.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AstroSamantha/status/1525114279917133824
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>>14481739
lol, I can't read
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Starbase tour in ~6 hours (?)
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>>14481743
pog
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>>14481729
If we want only renewables or nuclear, a mix might be cheaper than purely renewables
Batteries are pretty expensive still, which will increase the effective cost of renewables
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>>14481743
> Part 1
Lol
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>>14481724
>>14481699
Looks like the rock fractured and eroded until a piece broke off and slid downhill. Not the giant crack to the left.
Would be interesting to know how long ago it happened. Could be (geologically) recent, maybe CO2 freezing and expanding in the cracks.
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>>14481743
I feel like there probably isn't gonna be much new info.
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>>14481750
Estronaut is cucking us. He knows his paypigs will feed him until he’s satisfied enough to release part 2.
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>>14481749
I'm beating a dead horse here but they don't mix, already in most places nuclear plants cost more to operate than to build a new plant of another type and that assumes they have a capacity factor of around 90%, that's about to get cut in half with the amount of cheap renewable energy that will flood the market unless the government steps in with ridiculous tariffs for nuclear. The only thing that may survive is natural gas as it's highly dispatchable and the plants are really cheap to build so it doesn't matter if they're shut down much of the time. Plus with electrofuel they become carbon neutral and an alternative to battery energy storage.
>Batteries are pretty expensive still, which will increase the effective cost of renewables
Yes but mind you that isn't a cost that needs to be paid until renewable penetration in most markets is much higher, until then energy storage is only getting added because it's already profitable when stored for a short duration. As battery and wholesale electricity prices fall it will then make sense to extend the storage duration, but seasonal battery energy storage is a complete meme and it would be far cheaper just to build out more renewables.
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>>14481835
How expensive is electrofuel compared to batteries? Natural gas would need.to be banned or something in a situation like that, or the electrofuel cheaper than nat gas
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>>14481835
You keep saying how nuclear plants are uncompetitive, but I see them being cancelled for ideological reasons. When you want to build one, you suddenly have dozens of "environmental" groups starting a protest and even if you manage to build one, in countries such as Germany, a mix of stupidity and corruption will cause to phase out such plants. I think not even fossil fuel plants are fought as hard as nuclear.
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https://app.frame.io/reviews/7cdeb42b-99c9-43a5-b655-bd6eb757f2cf

Everyday Cuckstronaut interview
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>>14481946
1. ABSOLUTELY no sharing, screen-shotting, screen-recording, or leaks of information. LEGAL ACTION will be pursued if we see any information or images leaked from this preview
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>>14481946
Quick somebody YouTube-dlp this vid and post it EVERYWHERE before Tim does. Instagram, Vimeo, internet archive, YouTube, torrentcsv, NSF tranny discord etc.
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>>14481946
Thanks
>>14481948
rip anon :(
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>>14481957
Some Russiananon should be able to do it since all copyright protections of foreign IPs has been lifted as a war measure.
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>>14481880
Electrofuel companies have been hesitant to state any real numbers on the cost but they're all making the bet that they will have access to some real cheap electricity and of course there are many other applications for carbon neutral fuel. Actually the cheaper renewables get the less market there will be for electrofuel as energy storage because companies will build out solar farms even if they only have a buyer on cloudy days and the resulting overcapacity will greatly decrease the amount of long-term energy storage required.

The Terraform Industries white paper is a good read if you want to get into the weeds.
https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2022/02/03/terraform-industries-whitepaper/
>>14481917
>You keep saying how nuclear plants are uncompetitive, but I see them being cancelled for ideological reasons
Those are not mutually exclusive but in most countries there is little in the way preventing them from adding more reactors to existing nuclear sites and it's not being done because even that would be an absurd investment without heavy subsidies. Red tape has been a convenient excuse for the failure of nuclear but reality is much more nuanced. Even if it was the root cause trying to get the government to act reasonable is like screaming at the sky. Kek, nuclear supporters act like they just have to convince the YouTube comment section and everything would be solved.
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>>14481966
>muh climate buzzwords
Kyle absolute state of solarkeks, this is how they compete with nuclear, with words. The future is nuclear.
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Requesting the SN15 landing webm
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>>14481978
Thanks, but to be more specific I was thinking of the one where you can see the flip, it's shot from a bit further away
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>>14481974
You will eat your hat and be happy.
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>>14481966
It's not nuanced, it's pretty much the opposite. Germany has been pushing anti-nuclear propaganda for decades, while at the same time claiming that they want to protect the environment. It doesn't seem honest. The result are the highest energy prices in Europe, one of the worst air quality caused by coal power plants.
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>>14481986
Actually now that I think about it, it probably wasn't SN15, maybe SN12 or something? In any case it was a cool panoramic shot of the flip and landing
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>>14482037
This was SN10
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>>14481966
But is nuclear really that expensive really? Or is the situation more like what the space industry was before spacex. Regulations and enviromental groups make it so difficult that enough arent built and the learning curve is extremely slow
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>>14482046
Hell yeah this was the one
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Estronaut interview recap:
Rapid reuse
Lower tonnage cost to 100$ to Martian surface
Starlink pez dispenser
Reducing starship flaps to only two at the bottom
Chines maybe permanent
Reduction of grid fins to 2
Flap locations are going to be adjusted over iterations
Tiles expand to fill gaps
Mega bay = many workstations for wagies
No more tents, permanent factory under construction
S24 to be the first in orbital trajectory
Some kind of exhaust used for small maneuvers in space
Musk raged at estronaut for saying dumb shit.
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>>14481946
>girth > length
>megabay is ~30-40 feet taller but its girthy
>highbay can have ~2-3 workstations
>megabay can have ~10-12 workstations
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>>14482068
>ullage gas for atitude/rcs control
>switched from old nitrogen gas to hot gas
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Musk also explicitly mentions that Starship is NOT a space plane.
It’s over spaceplanesisters.
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>>14482077
ITS OVER
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>>14482065
100k per ton to surface of mars
orders of magnitude
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>>14482065
>Musk raged at estronaut for saying dumb shit.
Out of all people, why is he the only one allowed to record tours around Starbase? Musk alone talking about Starbase would be a much better option.
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>>14482065
best flap is no flap
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>>14482088
mini starship
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>>14482083
Okay but to be fair, I was on 2x speed and am using a broken phone speaker so I misheard and am wrong, but as a reasonable retort, 100k$ is the same as 100$ if you have constant inflow of incomprehensible wealth.
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>>14482065
>Reduction of grid fins to 2
But then you lose one axis of rotation (eg. you have roll and pitch but no yaw).
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>>14482094
Watch the vid or ask some fag in L2, I’m a biologist not a physicist.
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>>14482077
real spaceplanes have never been tried
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>>14482009
Tearing out working power plants just to replace them is expensive hence the high electricity costs but Germany is still just a single country and notable because they took such a hard line against nuclear, most other governments are indifferent. France is a pro-nuclear country with low electricity prices and they are fucked, tons of aging reactors that they cannot afford to replace. Their state run utility is heavily in debt as well.
>>14482050
There is nothing like rocket reusability for the nuclear industry. Nuclear could never match the learning rate of a technology like solar where cells are being made by the millions and constantly iterated on. Reactors should be very large for the sake of efficiency and power density but with SMRs at best you get a few hundred reactors which is basically a limited production run. It's been like 80 years of nuclear and they are only on generation IV.
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>>14482088
this is the most optimized design, it might beat starship
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>>14482110
>S50 will beat S24
Yes, I do agree, that does sound about right.
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>>14482113
ok retard
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https://mobile.twitter.com/KweenBeatrix/status/1525199593071337472

Esg hound retweeted this, im so sick of these people
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>>14482164
“Benefits are for employees only.”
Nigger demanding gibs, like pottery.
Musk is creating this strange local based corporate community thing in a world of destroyed families purely for his own benefit, so media outlets and subhumans are kvetching at the byproduct of this monumental effort.
Tldr who cares, musk good because he make rocket go up.
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>>14482164
Do they understand that before SpaceX, Brownsville was among the poorest in the nation? Would these mouthbreathing liberals prefer they live in poverty forever to keep housing prices low? Not to mention, BOO FUCKING HOO, the entire nation is suffering a housing crisis. Ya think that's SpaceX's fault?
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Booster 7 moving to the production site
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>>14482065
What dumb shit?
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>>14482202
"you can put some googly eyes and a smile on it!"
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>>14482209
the so,y meme is real
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>>14482209
sometimes creators should realize their jokes are bad and it's not why people watch them
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>>14482202
the googly eyes, implying starship is a space plane (musk properly sperged out at that), suggesting removing the grid fins with flaps (musk and engineer goon hated that), estronaut implying that orbital is similar to suborbital, etc.
Everything estronaut said pissed off musk in some way, there are even some shots of musk being more pissed off than the infamous sugarcoating image.
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>>14482233
Replacing grid fins with flaps*
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>>14482233
It should have been hullo, or literally everyone else. Even a random intern would be a better interviewer than estronaut.
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>>14482233
>musk properly sperged out at that
he could be posting here right now
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>>14482244
you'd be surprised how little scott manley actually understands about rockets
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>>14482250
Maybe, but he still would be less irritating than that manchild.
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>>14482244
Let's be honest, the average /sfg/ autist would be a better interviewer.
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>>14482277
Let’s be very honest, we already have a guy who can ask questions in front of a camera. /sfg/ interviewer with zero social skills is real. You’ve seen him down at the cost plus content youtube channel.
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>>14482281
>You’ve seen him down at the cost plus content youtube channel.
Not fucking lately, sadly. Where's /ourguy/ gone to? I liked his videos.
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>>14482295
Pretty sure he's working on a degree
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>>14482281
I think “the space race” is also a lurker due to his open hostility towards the FAA and his agreement with the theory of the FAA stalling for SLS.
>inb4 “they’re not sending their best.”
Unfortunately sfg correspondents are all šōÿ in at least one measure, so please understand that Tim is the best rounded guy in newspace, especially considering his allegiance as a muskrat.
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>>14482298
fahrenheit or celsius?
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>>14480053
It’s not that easy in replyetry
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Mars will be such a paradise when terraformed... no birds, no bugs, no spiders, no trees, no grass, no moss, no fish, no brazilians, no rape-dolphins. Just perfection.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ux6B3bvO0w
It's up
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the official version, i wonder why tim is so anal about the review version if he is going to release it in a few hours anyway
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>>14482327
>>14482331
still not gonna watch it
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>>14482335
its pretty cool, at least the first 2 minutes
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>>14480797
Growing up overseas or with first generation immigrant parents and being surrounded by other people who talk with Asian American accents.

It’s hard learn a second language so well you sound like a native speaker, especially when the phonemes are very different, which is the case with the phonemes of East Asian and Southeast Asian languages and the phonemes used in English.
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Can america just ban every language that isn't english already?
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>>14481073
You could reduce all of Alabama to a fine ash and the US would improve in every statistic, especially number of Alabamas.
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so they are dumping the cold gas thruster alltogether, just going to use the ullage gas and the pressure should be plenty (they have more than enough for maneuvers and are going to end up dumping some even after the maneuvers)
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>>14481228
Too late, retard. You’ve already seen my post with your own eyes, so you believe I’m right.
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>>14481410
wtf I love schizophrenia now
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>>14481481
You can tell they’re bad because they have space dreadlocks, like in Predator
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>>14482087
It’s in line with his let-other-people-promote-me they-do-it-all-for-free policy.
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>>14482304
nursing
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>>14482109
It's also been at 40 years since different reactor designs have been tested other than PWR. It literally is just bureaucracy that we don't have competitive nuclear today, even though you do lie about current nuclear being uncompetitive
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>>14482398
>we don't have competitive nuclear today, even though you do lie about current nuclear being uncompetitive
You deboonked yourself in the same sentence you crazy son of a bitch.
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>>14482398
Nuclear is noncompetitive if you live in the remote Alaskan wilderness digging up fucking salted meat.
For everyone else, no chance. You can overprovision wind and solar for a fraction of the cost.
People are building nuclear today for contingency, not for price anon.
Small Modular Reactors do have a future though. You could pop some of the current 60MW designs into a Starship
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>>14479025
> he didn't actually suffer at all
#SendMonksToMars
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> solarfag is back advocating running industrial society on dilute energy
ghastly
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>>14482481
Universal suffrage was a mistake
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>>14482481
First of all I never left, second of all not all solar posters are me for instance that last one, thirdly say that to my face when not online and see what happens.
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>>14482469
>Small Modular Reactors do have a future though
>posts an overpriced mini PWR
Nuscale is lame as shit, you need six of them to even operate a single turbine, they can't sale them as a 60 mw plant. Since they operate at such a low temperature they can't take advantage of the smaller more efficient and high temperature coal turbines.
I think they are mainly being used as the foot in the door for new nuclear to finally get the NRC off their ass and license a new nuclear plant that literally can't fuck up
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>>14482560
>this little mother fucking is basically fucking you, your mother and the whole space industry. There's nothing your little weasel ass can do about it
>would you like know more?
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>>14482571
>would you like know more?
Yes
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NEW KINO JUST DROPPED!
https://youtu.be/rt9Z0hyHaBw
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>>14482576
Then enlist today
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>>14482579
They made some poor guy sing for an hour straight
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>>14482590
akctually I'm already a beetle expert, I know that eradicating them would be as simple as cutting down their host plant the Marsh Fimbry. They still live because I have shown them mercy.
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>>14482603
its just surreal to hear some children's youtube video song singing about semi-obscure solar system objects like 2014 UZ224 and 20000 Varuna
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>>14482481
The anti-Zubrin schizo is a solarfag.
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>>14482627
>The anti-Zubrin schizo
Kek, this isn't a thing. Were you the guy that got upset after it was revealed he was a cringy Marxist who joined a cult that scammed pensioners out of their money?
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Estronaut is based. Presentation newfags get the helicopter ride.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1525476875459387392

1/4 lol
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>>14482643
Zubrin is definitely not a Marxist wtf are you talking about?
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>>14482654
Look up the word "was", ELS-kun.
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>Elon unwilling to admit that it's not orbital
cucked
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>>14482651
paypigs need to stop enabling this shit
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>>14482662
You mean the first orbital test flight of Starship?
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>>14482650
lolski
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>>14482661
Provide source or you are making it up and also are collage fag.
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>>14482682
Nta but it's incredibly common knowledge.
The only good thing Zubrin has ever done is NSWR.
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>>14482579
ok Based?
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>>14482687
>Traditional Marxism attempted to argue against free enterprise by saying that capitalism causes poverty and that, therefore, socialism is necessary. That didn't work, because it was false.
https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/robert_zubrin_782822

Only thing that came up. You are now officially collage fag, a Marxist and a filthy earther. Please redeem yourself from the thread sir.
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>>14482693
Zubrin redeemed in my eyes, based in others. let freedom ring!
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>>14482693
This has literally been discussed in the thread before you schizophrenic newfag nigger.
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>>14482682
http://lyndonlaroucheforum.org/index.php?showtopic=213&st=0&

You can also find articles written by him back when he worked for the Fusion Energy Foundation which was a front for Lyndon LaRouche political campaigns. They did the aforementioned robbing pensioners of their money.
>>14482693
Newfag, lurk more.
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>>14482699
>>14482700
Oldfags are bullish on Zubrin
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>>14482703
No that meme is stale. Dolphin dick posting is the new hotness.
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Ummmmmmmmmmmmm Zubrin bros? He wasn't actually a scammer, right?

http://wlym.com/archive/fusion/fusion/19801212-fusion.pdf
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>>14482703
>I also learned that he really, really doesn't like environmentalists, and this is when I realized something: his views on the subject sound suspiciously similar to a certain old man we all know and (do not) love. Zubrin has railed against them for not only being "evil" and for being advocates of "zero-growth" development, but of pretty much hating all humanity and wanting to oppose industrial and technological progress in order to destroy the poor and weak and a bunch of other things that are largely exaggerations.
Based?

Jokes aside: only one person there says he was a Marxist and that’s from memory only. They could very well be thinking of someone else or exaggerating for attention.
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>>14482737
At that point in time the LaRouche cult was a Marxist organization and they made money selling related literature.
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>>14482737
if you ever read merchants of despair or energy victory, you'd know he's basically a neocon
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>>14482737
>exaggerating for attention
Also that's retarded, no one outside this place gives a shit about Zubrin. He is a meme someone came up with and the joke was lost on newfags.
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>>14482746
Ted Kaczynski wanted to be a tranny, but that doesn't stop 4chan from revering him
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>>14482752
Nice try, solarfag. The patriarchy is powered by the atom and it's here to stay.
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>>14482758
Some people would have dodged a bullet if he was on estrogen and t suppressants.
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>>14482758
How is Zubrin anything like Ted Kaczynski beyond that he goes long periods without showering?
>>14482762
Is this solarfag in the room with us right now?
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>>14482752
why do newfags, such as yourself, try so hard to revise history? every zubrin post has been archived. and i was there
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>>14482772
Yes.
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>>14482772
Zubrin is frighteningly similar to ol Ted. Ironically, Bob didnt have the balls to do what had to be done. The halls of Congress have yet to be painted by the blood of the obstructionist Earther
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>>14482779
>The two years I spent forcing a dumb meme is real /sfg/ history! I didn't get caught up in my own bullshit, we've always wanted to have sweaty gay sex with Zubrin
Honestly go outside, touch grass, have sex, etc. You at the very least need a long break from this place. Zubrin isn't here, you don't have to defend his honor, if he has any left after being a scam artist.
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>>14482794
Do you have the whole picture?
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>>14482800
>sex with zubrin
where the fuck do i sign up?
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>>14482813
Meet him in the bathroom at the Mars Society convention. If you're lucky Tom Mueller will join you.
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Ummm... Starliner bros?
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>>14482750
Holly based.
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>>14482800
Kys commie.
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>>14482820
Mr. Zubrin is happily married and would never be unfaithful to his lovely wife, Hoppe.
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>>14482833
Whatever, just don't drag your bullshit over to the start of the new thread like last time.
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STAGING:

>>14482846
>>14482846
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>>14482758
Ted was a delusional fag



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