Why do we find certain facial features attractive over others? It has nothing to do with survival, like size does.
>>14098543>It has nothing to do with survival, like size does.facial balance is associated with better genes.
>>14098543it must be important since you can glance at a picture like that for 10 seconds and pick out the face you find most appealing. leftmost in middle row. Usually mental processes that are very fast are Important like recognizing danger or opportunity.
>>14098627Rightmost first row. All day every day.
>>14098543media conditioning is reposnsible for most of your preferences
>>14098543>It has nothing to do with survivalIt does. It indicates that the individual's genetics are not only within the norm, but close to the average of the population. It's the safest bet for your offspring.
>>14098555Is that proven?
>>14098673I remember a study on elephant seals thast looked at skell symmetry
>>14098663That's another thing I'm curious about. I wonder just how much the media can affect your preferences.
>>14098663But the media is full of trannies?
>>14098543It’s something to do with chewing hard foods
>>14098667But the most attractive people are far from average in appearance
>>14098719Not him, but there are two types of people: the heavily domesticated -- those who can be conditioned into anything -- they're the ones who screech the loudest about the influece of muh environment, accuse everyone of being essentially like them in terms of social suggestibility (the experience of having any internal reference point for what is normal and desirable is alien to them), and often burst into irrational anger over the concept of a natural order; they usually have abnormal amygdalas, and we have studies demonstrating how this personality type can be created by disabling parts of the brain; then you have the intuitive and instinctual type, whose basic drives and preferences reflect human nature -- they tend to end up conservative, and the range of ideas they can be indoctrinated into is much narrower.
>>14098743Being average (or close to it) on every facial metric is actually exceedingly rare, for roughly the same reason it's rare to flip a coin and get tails 100 times in a row.
>>14098555What makes genes "better". I thought evolution wasn't teleological? Do humans have the ability to suss out which base pairs are superior just by the appearance of someone's face?
>>14098869The eye size of peacock tails is correlated with immune strength.
>>14098869>What makes genes "better"Higher genetic fitness.>Do humans have the ability to suss out which base pairs are superior just by the appearance of someone's face?Yes.
>>14098543Eukaryotic sexual reproduction relies on a finely tuned ATP balance of supply and demand between mitochondria and the cell nucleus. Make a mistake here and you're done."Attraction" between the sexes is a tell-tale sign that attempts to communicate compatibility before energy is wasted on sex.I think there are much improvements to be had in this mechanism, for instance if two large eukaryotic organisms immediately engaged in a sex trial and observed the viability of their fetus for a short period of time then the result of the trial fetus could trigger either attraction or repulsion.
>>14098869Higher mutational load is correlated with ugliness.
>>14098869>Do humans have the ability to suss out which base pairs are superior just by the appearance of someone's face?Unironically yes. Faces are like a biological checksum.
>>14098935>Faces are like a biological checksum.That is a beautiful way to put it. I'll have to remember the analogy.
>>14098935Why petite like those supermodels with weird asymmetrical faces? Or weird alien men like Benderdict Cuminhatch?
>>14098968*why do people like
>>14098935>Faces are like a biological checksum.Bingo.
>>14098543It often comes down to personal preference, which leads me to think it could be more sociological. Like, your preferred type may have to do with early experience. Ultimately I don't think it matters much. If there's one girl around, you'll end up liking, or becoming accustomed to their features. Celebrities who are revered for their beauty also tend to be ubiquitous because of it. A case could be made that the public is memed into thinking they are hot, in addition to any positive physical attributes they may have.
>>14099035>Celebrities who are revered for their beauty also tend to be ubiquitous because of it. A case could be made that the public is memed into thinking they are hot, in addition to any positive physical attributes they may have.Textbook case of selection bias.
>>14098543Attractive genes suggest high-value ancestry and selective breeding.
>>14099035>Celebrities who are revered for their beauty also tend to be ubiquitous because of itCelebrities are all fucking trannnies.I'm serious about this by the way.
Some of the smartest people in the world, especially people like math geniuses, tend to actually be kind of ugly. So I have a hard time understanding attractiveness
>>14099096It tells you that math geniuses are not essential to your survival.
>>14099142But it should represent good genes, right? Higher intelligence correlates to a higher chance of survival
>>14099149> Higher intelligence correlates to a higher chance of survivaNot if you have their unfortunate genetics it doesn't.
>>14099151Do uglier people tend to live shorter lives?
high disease challenge but a good face = good genes to fight off diseasehigh disease challenge but an ugly pox marked face = bad genes that poorly fight of disease
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
>>14099154>Do uglier people tend to live shorter lives?Yes.
>>14098543bottom row second from left now:
>>14098543>It has nothing to do with survival, like size doesTall people have a shorter life expectancy and obesity decreases health and survival you dumb faggot.
>>14098543For me, it’s her
>>14098663God I miss Ron Paul bros
>>14099607Left middle and left bottom are my voices
>>14099680You can tell just from looks she has autistic traits and is the most unbearable cunt you will ever meet
>>14098543rightmost bottom row is my wife btw
Why do Finnish women look like mutants, scientifically speaking?
>>14098667close but it is more of an indicator of the person's gene expressions and their relative compatibility with yours.
>>14098719social influences do not affect your physiological attraction but can add a top filtering layer which can make you reject someone you are attracted to.
These girls are insecure about this picture pls delete huge mental trauma. The Brigade commander is huge nazi for taking this anti woman picture.>>14100446No makeup allowed in duty, rakeesh
>>14100446unironically nordic and moreso finnish women look like trannies, no idea how americans got the idea swedish women are hot but it's definitely far from the case
>>14098543Spandrels are responsible for the majority of aesthetic value judgements.
>>14100452We are naturally more attracted to those around 3rd-4th cousins.
>>14098543Literally everyone in the pic is ugly af, fucking white monkey trannies
>>14098543This is me
>>14098663>media conditioning is responsible for at least part of your preferences*ftfymillions of yearts and eons of evolution and survival learning and instinct development has hard wired us to detect and recognize, safety, comfort, nurturing and conversely recognize and detect danger, threat, uncertainty, sickness and negativity
>>14098627>leftmost in middle rowFor me it's bottom right.
>>14098543the real question is why are there so many uglies
>>14102444Unscientific buzzwords. Just accept you dont have all the answers.
>>14099607very well observed anon. especially well spotted on the primadonna boots.-how do you identify the psychopath, the bpd/neurotic, the mouthbreather and the pervert?-what's a fertile gondola?-what's a tryhard?-why do so many of them have shit posture and kyphosis even though they're meant to be soldiers?
>>14102486>Just accept you dont have all the answers.never said i had all the answers. but your a fucking assclown if you want to pretend we dont have eons of instinct evolved into our very beings.call it what you want. we've developed instinct as a survival mechanism to guide us in many waysyou want to pretend these things dont exist go ahead and live in your sjwlgbtblm fantasy
>>14098663RON PAUL REVOLUTIONGod I cringe at my Libertarian teenage years
>>14102433So we're denying evolution now?
>>14100452>close but it is more of an indicator of the person's gene expressionsMeaningless phrase.>their relative compatibility with yours.i.e closeness to the average of your own population.
>>14099197high iq people live significantly longer than lower iq people.
>>14103918don't we me, you
>>14098543>Why do we find certain facial features attractive over others?facial proportions.............https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S003132031100478Xhttps://www.goldennumber.net/facial-beauty-new-golden-ratio/#:~:text=The%20researchers%20concluded%20that%20they%20had%20found%20these,ratio%20of%2036%25%20considered%20the%20most%20attractive%2C%20andhttps://pinkmirror.com/blog/photo-retouch-face-attractiveness-score/upload your pic here:https://pinkmirror.com/photo/add
>>14098756>not impregnating every single one of those finngolian breeding sowsFaggot
>>14098543Is this the Finnish tranny marines?
>>14098756An alternative hypotheses
>>14105249I prefer middle row first from our left
>>14105007>high iq people live significantly longer than lower iq people.They also tend to be more attractive.
>>14098543i'd hit it
>>14102015Who do you think volunteer for army?
>>14105043I always wondered why the Russians misunderestimated the Finns, after all they have shared a border since forever. Their neighbours in the west never made such fatal mistakes, even Vikings made sure to stay well away.
>>14103918>>14103078You simply have no scientific facts. All your talk of evolution is just your opinion. It isnt denying evolution, just that writing "evolution" in a post doesnt explain anything.People are asking you a complicated thing and you say "dude evolution". Might as well say "Uh atoms, big bang".
>>14107482Fins lost the winter war so theres nothing to understimate.
>>14105249>>14105816>>14098756>>14105040>not picking the mongoloid combat fuck nugget midget