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References in second post.

Yes you have been lied to this entire time everywhere.

Petroleum is a renewable product, continously made by earth's high pressure on carbon. It is always associated to deep geological faults that transverse the crust. It has been found in crystalline basements (so not just sedimentary basins) such as in the biggest petroleum site in Vietnam, in volcanic rocks in Japan and many more. It has been observed there is a constant renewing in petroleum reservoirs that should have been depleted in the 70s.

Petroleum doesn't have 500 million year, the long chains of carbon would decompose underground and would present nowhere near the energy value they do today, it has at most a few thousand years and some are very new (a few decades) in known reserves. There's too much hydrogen (as well as sulfur and others) in petroleum for it to be a product of animals and plants, there should be a much higher concentration of unsaturated hydrocarbons instead.

The "scientist" who invented the biological theory (Mikhailo V. Lomonosov, 1757) didn't have any empirical evidence for it, it is basically a pseudoscientific theory that lacks even observations, the guy basically invented the whole thing. Synthetic petroleum has been made from plants and it does not look like extracted petroleumm

Fossils have never been found in petroleum, in 1919 "scientists" categorically affirmed peak oil, but production only increased since then, to the point in those 100 years more oil has been extracted than it would be possible taking in account all the organic material on earth's surface. Large oil reserves have origins in regions of contact or shifting of plates where there are numerous fault zones that reach deep parts of earth bellow the crust. Oil companies, all of them, always drill near fault zones. Hidrocarbons like methane, ethane and propane have been formed by simple inorganic reactions in lab settings that reproduced the conditions of the deep parts of earth.
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>>13746826
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1751-3928.2006.tb00271.x

Schutter, S.R. (2003), Occurrences of hydrocarbons in and around igneous rocks, Geological Society, London, Special Publications, 214, 35-68.

Petford, N. & McCaffrey, K. (2003), Hydrocarbons in crystalline rocks: an introduction, Geological Society, London, Special Publications, 214, 1-5, http://mr.crossref.org/iPage?doi=10.1144%2FGSL.SP.2003.214.01.01

Landes, K.K.; Amoruso, J.J.; Charlesworth, L.J.; Heany, F. & Lesperance, P.J. (1960), Petroleum resources in basement rocks, American Association of Petroleum Geologists, Bulletin 44, 1682–1691.

Lamb, C.F. (1997), Basement reservoirs—an overlooked opportunity, Canadian Society of Petroleum Geologists and Society of Economic and Petroleum Mineralogists Joint Convention, Calgary.

Gold, T. (1998), The Deep Hot Biosphere (Copernicus, New York).

Petford, N.; McCaffrey, K.J.W.; Koning, T. (2003), Oil and gas production from basement reservoirs: examples from Indonesia, USA and Vietnam, In: Hydrocarbons in Crystalline Rocks, Geological Society, London, Special Publications, eds Petford, N. and McCaffrey, K.J.W., 214, 83–92.

Powers, S. (1932), Notes on minor occurrences of oil, gas and bitumen with igneous and metamorphic rocks, American Association of Petroleum Geologists, Bulletin, 16, 837–858.

Petford, N.; McCaffrey, K.J.W. & Shutter, S.R. (2003), Hydrocarbons in Crystalline Rocks, Hydrocarbon occurrence and exploration in and around igneous rocks, Geological Society, London, Special Publications, eds Petford, N. & McCaffrey, K.J.W., 214, 7–33.

Stagpoole, V. & Funnell R. (2001), Arc magmatism and hydrocarbon generation in northern Taranaki Basin, New Zealand, Petroleum Geosciences, 7, 255–267.
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This is all true, but global warming is going to disrupt the cycle and bring oil production to an end. Thats why we need to eat the bugs before it’s too late
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>>13747449
t. petro shill
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>>13747484
wasnit it methane or ethane ? isn't petroleum different
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>>13747502
>isn't petroleum different
it still is hydrocarbon, it just has a longer chain
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>>13746826
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>>13747521
shill bot detected
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>>13747521
suck a dick. nigger
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>>13747535
>theory
Like string (((theory))), it's fake garbage
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>>13746826
Despite the... Dude, it accumulates in biosphere. That's bad, because then fish overreproduce, orcas have plenty of to eat, but they are sad.
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>Oil companies, all of them, always drill near fault zones.
Fault zones in the Gulf of Mexico?
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>>13748624
HUH?
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>>13746826
Yeah, I first read about this in the late 2000s. Oil companies like the myth of scarcity. If people believed it was a renewable resource, there would be a lot less support for new drilling.
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>>13749743
Except even if it was true this is stupid.
Consider the age of the planet, the theory suggests that conditions to produce oil have existed for almost as long as the planet has existed. This means that it took several billion years to produce the oil reserves we've depleted in decades.
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>>13749902
It doesn't change the ultimate conclusion that they're of limited availability. who knows what the production and supply rate is?
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>>13746826
Good news if true, we won't have to worry about post oil lubrication. We should still move away from IC transportation where viable due to CO2 emissions but having hydrocarbons for aircraft where energy desity is vital will always be a good thing.
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>>13747502
petroleum or crude oil is a combination of linear and branching and cyclic and polycyclic compounds.
if you partially decompose any sort of fairly complex carbon "thing", you get a tar with all sorts of hydrocarbons in it.
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>>13746841
Cope
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>>13746826
Pathological science

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1751-3928.2006.tb00271.x
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It appears you're trying to have a reasoned and scientific discussion on /sci/ using facts and references.
Unfortunately, this is not possible, because this board is dedicated to fucking retards and mentally handicapped liberals who would rather tow the party line than do any sort of critical thinking.
For that reason I'm going to have to close this thread.

/thread
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>>13750298
damn, what a shame
i though i would find intelligent life willing to show me my reasoning shortcomings in order to improve my knowlege on anymous forums, since elsewhere i just get banned for hate speech and conspiracy theories, or just get ignored and talked on my back
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>>13746826
then you should be able to describe the reaction and we should be able to do it.
we did all of these for the biogenic theory of oil
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>>13750357
Wait what? You need to be able to do a certain something for it to be true?
Wait what you cocked microbes to crude-oil?
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>>13746826
pretty good and interesting post, except for the bit about finding fossils in oil... that seems irrelevant and it isn't really attempted is it? They'd have to dig out a large area deep enough to survey.



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