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The previous thread: >>13417764
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Apologize.
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>>13421538
oh fuck is that first man in space jeff bezos?
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>>13421532
first for YES
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stupid frogposters
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>>13421538
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>>13421542
The one and only. It should be stated that he will also be the last man in space
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>>13421538
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disregard Jeff, embrace TUUUUUUUBES
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>>13421552
Seeing the rocket and immediately thinking of a penis says more about the observer then it does Bezos
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>>13421561
no it's a penis
it's the most phallic rocket I've ever seen and I'm a big fan of penis
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>>13421561
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https://youtu.be/9TEccvT6STc
this conversation with Bill Nelson is actually kinda nice. He understands the limits of NASA and has fully embraced fixed price contracting. At the same time he presses congress for greater funding and fights back when they try to fight him. He's also old and lets a lot of based takes out that normally a NASA admin wouldnt say. the anti china rhetoric is great, scare them congressmen!
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>>13421564
case and point
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>>13421574
utterly terrifying
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>>13421568
He’s not Jim but he has his moments
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>>13421568
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>>13421568
>Asked about bezos
>Brings up elon instead
kek
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>>13421589
since it's clear how much you like that webm anon here's one without the black bars
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>>13421568
>everybody thought Boeing was gonna win it hands down
>well look, SpaceX has already delivered 3 crews and Boeing's not off the ground yet
fucking based ballast
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>>13421494
you JUST know she gives the sloppiest blowjobs possible, probably blown every single guy on the space station
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>>13421610
Wtf is wrong with you, horndog
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>>13421606
thank you
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>>13421568
Wait up, he seemed to reveal something here that hasnt been officially announced. he casually stated that when the Artemis astronauts get to the Moon they would "meet up with other commercial experiments" on the surface. Wonder what those might be and where and when those launch. Are they CLPS?
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>>13421614
i haven't fucked a qt asian whore in like 2 years
FUCK covid
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>>13421621
t. John Carmack
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>>13421619
yeah that's pretty blatantly CLPS
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>>13421621
posthuman cyborg horndog John Carmack
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>>13421619
https://twitter.com/nasaartemis/status/1417929885302001671?s=21
>>13421621
Last time I got ANY action was 4 years ago. She was half japanese half colombian. Since then I have been in limbo
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>>13421621
they’re overrated. PAWGs are the top tier waifus
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>>13421630
Wait wut what the fuck is the point of HLS then?
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>>13421621
is this you
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>>13421635
this is the for the 2nd option HLS shit
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>>13421639
Based besoz
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkx94yzDXvY

imagine if these meme machine actually puts shit in orbit before jeff who
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>>13421635
they're probably asking about LETS which is the second try at turning HLS into a project that Congress doesn't hate
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>>13421640
this was always the plan, even before bezos
https://spacenews.com/nasa-seeking-proposals-for-next-phase-of-artemis-lunar-lander-services-despite-industry-protests/
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>umbrellas and awnings everywhere
what are they hiding bros?
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>>13421660
Their heads from the hot Texas sun.
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>>13421661
Well you're just no fun.
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>>13421660
Looks like a big ass anchor
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>>13421660
ayys giving them technology.
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>>13421630
based twitter reply
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>>13421660
from the wind, probably
welding hates wind
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>>13421644
I'd say ARCA is more like all the small launch scammers, they have no intention to build anything capable of...anything
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>>13421670
king
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>>13421670
i hate old people
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>>13421660
What are the dark tubes at the top of the frame for, rails for the mechanism to slide down?
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>>13421644
do they have a way to give the my crypto? they are the most transparent, promising company in this industry after virgin galactic
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>>13421538
THIS IS MISSION CONTROL CALLING ASTRONAUT BEZOS, COME IN ASTRONAUT BEZOS, DO YOU READ ME?
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>>13421694
nooo the cringe aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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>>13421618
>futa spaceplanes
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>>13421701
W-what?
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>>13421707
rocket gijinka Starship is a futanari and docks in space
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>>13421701
gonna coom
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>>13421711
But Starship isn't a spaceplane.
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>When NASA accepted that $2.89B bid from SpaceX for the HLS Option A award, the Human Spaceflight managers were signaling that Starship is NASA's future.

>There is no other means available for the space agency to realize its decades old vision of continuous human presence on the lunar surface at an affordable price. It sounds to me like Bill Nelson is on board with this Starship future for NASA.

>SLS/Orion/Gateway is too expensive and far too limited in cargo transport capability on which to build a permanent lunar base that supports dozens and then hundreds of humans on the lunar surface.

>The event that caused this upheaval occurred in Jan 2019 when Elon changed Starship from graphite-epoxy composite construction to stainless steel. That change solved his money problem and set Starship on the fast track to LEO and beyond.

>When SpaceX places two Starships on the lunar surface, one unmanned and the other manned, within the next three years for $2.89B, the game is over. NASA will be able to afford to send a 100t payload to the lunar surface every 29 days (a lunar month). Permanent human presence starts once that first 100t cargo is landed on the Moon.
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>>13421728
link to this article?
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>>13421538
im so sorry bro
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>>13421727
Anon...
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>>13421731
https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/06/nasa-expects-a-decision-on-a-lunar-lander-protest-by-early-august/
it was in the comments section
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>>13421737
>>13421728
Reminder, GAO decision will be in the next few weeks.
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>>13421747
Imagine the seething on here when GAO gives the prize to Bezos
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>>13421754
they can't give the prize to Bezos, all they can do is take the prize away from SpaceX
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>>13421756
Blessed
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>>13421756
No they can't.
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>>13421754
More likely BO, WA/Alabama Senators will throw more fits.
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oh no SLS bros we got too cocky
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>>13421762
Faggot detected
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>>13421728
>When SpaceX places two Starships on the lunar surface, one unmanned and the other manned, within the next three years for $2.89B, the game is over.

Its a pretty safe bet that it's not going to happen within the next three years
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>>13421765
THIS MAN WILL BE REPRIMANDED
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>>13421762
you do not understand the powers of the Government Accountability Office, they have two choices here, they can:
1. say that NASA is the big dumb, and go do it over
2. say that NASA is fine, shut the fuck up Jeff Bezos
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>>13421767
Agreed
>Catching superheavy
>Refuelling on orbit
>Landing starship from orbit
>Landing starship on the moon
>Landing starship on the earth after the moon
Thats like 5 years of testing or more and then the whole deal to man rate it
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>>13421767
somebody more autistic than me will be screenshotting your post and taunting you later
also I blame SLS for fucking it up when they don't make it
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>>13421765
I will find him
I WILL FIND HIM
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>>13421765
I wonder how Jeff feels when he sees a Tesla in the parkling lot, as opposed to a Rivian
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What was /sfg/ like when Crew Dragon exploded?
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>>13421776
did someone call
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>>13421773
Man rating it will not be a problem. Astronauts only get in it once it's docked to gateway—and then it just has to take them to the lunar surface and back.
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>>13421780
haha_boom_demoman.wav
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>>13421767
three years is a long time in spacex years
it'll be tough but i give them a solid chance of hitting that
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>>13421783
I was talking about starship by itself not in artemis
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>>13421780
More or less just "uh oh". Doomerposting wasn't as big back then
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>>13421786
tfw the most sfg map got shitcanned
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>>13421773
>>Landing starship on the earth after the moon
they don't need to do this
>>Landing starship from orbit
this doesn't need to happen, just increases the mission costs
landing superheavy is the biggest thing
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>>13421772
The budget passed already, didn't it?
It's done, SpaceX gets HLS funding. More can happen but that part is set is stone and can't be undone.
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>>13421644
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>>13421792
Anon...
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>>13421788
Oh. Even easier because it doesn't need to be human rated. Base starship is a spacex ship not a NASA ship. I'm sure NASA will, one day, want to put astronauts in a starship. But that will be after Artemis and Dearmoon and NASA probably won't give a damn about human rating it if it's already transporting hundreds of humans to Mars routinely
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>>13421792
>The budget passed already, didn't it?
doesn't mean shit
the budget just allocates it to the HLS project
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>>13421799
With the provision that SpaceX cannot be unselected, only that additional funding can be granted to a "second winner"
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>>13421791
Not talking about hls starship just regular starship to the moon
>>13421798
Yeah but its a long time to that
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>>13421803
keep up retard
that bill got dropped
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>>13421660
>ywn sit inside the struss as Super Heavy comes down to land
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>>13421805
>just regular starship to the moon
that will be a few years after artemis 3
will need a beefy landing pad assembled too
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>>13421806
Fucking when? I thought that shit got settled with NASA getting told "well then pick a second winner, fuck it contractors gotta get paid"
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What's a good rocket documentary that's substantive and not just romanticism and apollo circlejerking? i want technical stuff
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>>13421630
Wimp. Get married
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>>13421812
nope
didn't get past the next stage
the 10 bil is dead too
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>>13421813
moon machines
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Cheyenne Mountain and two other military bases will become USSF bases on Monday. That leaves three bases left to be converted: Thule, Greenland, Los Angeles AFB, and Cavalier, ND.
https://krdo.com/news/military/2021/07/21/peterson-air-force-base-schriever-air-force-base-and-cheyenne-mountain-air-force-station-to-get-new-names/
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>>13421813
Geminy and Mercury
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>>13421820
>Thule, Greenland
now that is interesting
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>>13421822
How are you supposed to pronounce Gemini. Is it "gem-ee-knee" or "gem-ee-nigh"?
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elon needs to set up his own deep space network
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>>13421836
It's supposed to be gem-ee-knee. However, no one in real life knows that so just call it whatever you want.
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>>13421836
I do gem-ee-knee
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>>13421836
gem en eye
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>>13421767
>>13421773
They got starship from pretty much nothing to orbit in 2 years, I think its pretty safe to say that they can do this in three.
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>>13421836
gem in eye
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>>13421836
the symbol and stuff is pronounced gem-eh-nigh
the space program is pronounced gem-eh-knee
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>>13421838
Starlink nodes with big laser telescopes
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gem-eh-knee is a socially transmissible mind virus that afflicted NASA during that era due to a superspreader event at the beginning of the program
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how come at the and of blorigin's press conference bezo is talking about ad hominem attacks being bad
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>>13421841
>>13421840
>>13421845
>gem-ee-knee
are you literally illiterate or do you have a lisp?
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>>13421855
His ego is more fragile than shuttle tiles.
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>>13421843
>Orbit
They need to do 33 engines they did 3
They are doing great but i don't see a succesfull starship orbital test (catched superheavy + land starship) until late 2022
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>>13421857
that's just how they pronounced it back then, don't believe me?
https://youtu.be/7aVaS-sWb_c
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>>13421860
kek
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>>13421862
They will reach orbit on september 9th, 2021, and you will go cry, faggot.
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>>13421862
And they will land in mid 2022 at the latest
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>>13421866
>september 9th, 2021
Imagine if there were fireworks 2 days later instead. WaPo would lose their minds.
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>>13421532
Is it better than rockets?
Do we have something better than rockets?
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>>13421866
I would like it but no
Think how many superheavys will blow up just by the engines then neither starship or superheavy went hypersonic
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>>13421870
If you don't think Elon will miss on the opportunity to do a 4/20 69 joke you're out of your mind. Realistically it'll take most of august to test BN4 and SN20 and a week after stacking for preparations to be ready.
>>13421873
You are wrong.
They already have tons of hypersonic experience with Falcon 9, and steel is a much stronger material then aluminum.
And raptors are already much more reliable then they were during the early days (SN8-SN11) and will only get more so.
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>>13421866
You problably also though they would reach orbit on july
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>>13421863
and dubya had creative ideas about how to say nuclear, doesn’t change facts
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>>13421877
I always thought they'd reach orbit in september.
You probably thought they'd never get past the cryo tank stages.
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>>13421876
>If you don't think Elon will miss on the opportunity to do a 4/20 69 joke you're out of your mind
That'd be the 6th then.

BN4/SN20 6th September.
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Its funny how /sfg/ suddenly turns pessimistic once americans go to sleep.
>>13421881
You're right, I'm a little tired.
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>>13421881
Imagine if some boomer fishing boat goes into the range and causes a scrub
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>>13421876
Then why did elon wanted to do hypersonic test then if they already have everything they need thanks to Falcon 9?
The engines are reliable but the plumbing isn't they will not get it right on the first try and that will make a couple superheavys blow up
Space x knows all this stop being dumb i want starship to do well but don't be retarded
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>>13421883
>Its funny how /sfg/ suddenly turns pessimistic once americans go to sleep.
More like when the prograde orbit time zones go to sleep. It's not even 8pm at Vandenburg right now.
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looks like nauka is going to be fine

>Ok, guys, my source says, that the Kurs antenna was opened yesterday evening. There are some other issues, but they are working on it; there’s nothing irreparable with #Nauka.
https://twitter.com/katlinegrey/status/1418027736187211777
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>>13421879
the facts are that the commonly accepted way to pronounce Gemini has changed in the last 60 years and if you want to be accurate then you pronounce the space program the way they did back then
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>>13421890
>Then why did elon wanted to do hypersonic test then if they already have everything they need thanks to Falcon 9?
To get extra use out of SN16 since they spent money on it.
>The engines are reliable but the plumbing isn't they will not get it right on the first try and that will make a couple superheavys blow up
Who says the plumbing isn't reliable? The only person I've heard this from so far is you, and most SpaceX people that have talked about starship seem quite optimistic about the orbital test, so I will believe them over you.
>Space x knows all this stop being dumb i want starship to do well but don't be retarded
Nothing indicates they "know this" or expect starship to fail. The main failure mode they seem to be worried about is hypersonic reentry for Starship.
Remember when everybody thought SN8 would do horrible and it nearly landed?
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>>13421898
what if Elon just wants to see one go fast and blow up
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>>13421891
More American posters in EST then PST probably. The pessimistic people are eastern euros who are just waking up I'm guessing.
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>>13421892
>There are some other issues, but they are working on it
>there’s nothing irreparable with #Nauka.
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>>13421898
Okay bro i wish you luck
I want you to kneel when you end up being wrong
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>>13421900
you're probably right, honestly the hypersonic flight was just an idea about something spacex could maybe do, like the SN15 reflight, it was never a serious thing. If SpaceX thought that they needed to do a hypersonic flight to prove starships' ability to get through Max-Q before orbit they would of. right now anything that doesn't help with SpaceX getting orbital is being discarded.
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>>13421906
I want YOU to kneel when you are wrong, faggot. I was RIGHT about SN8 doing better then doomers expected it to, and you doomers just fucking moved the goalposts. I will be RIGHT AGAIN about SN20 and you will move the goalposts again. Fuck off.
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>>13421910
I am not doomer retard i told you i want it to succed but i am realistic
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>>13421912
you're not realistic, you're pessimistic. SpaceX didn't have an issue with the three core falcon heavy, which is arguably much more complex then a single core, especially in terms of aerodynamics (and it also uses a much weaker material).
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>>13421907
I guess it all comes down to when the environmental bullshit goes through
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>>13421916
I don't think SpaceX would be optimistic about the flight happening this summer if they were having lots of issues with the red tape that we couldn't see.
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Remember NASA was able to get a superheavy rocket to have a perfect first launch in the 1960s with slide rulers and limited computers.
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>>13421924
who?
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>>13421925
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_4
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>>13421919
nah the best way to get through the red tape is to show them that you're expecting it to not take very long
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>>13421928
never heard of this boomer crap.
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>>13421933
Are you american
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>>13421924
Also went from paper rocket to first flight in 5 years.
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Why were the Apollo EVA suits so much more cumbersome than Gemini's, backpacks aside? Was it because they needed more thermal insulation on the moon? More padding in case they fell over? SpaceX is the only modern suit that's this slim.
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>>13421948
A majority of that time was just dedicated to keeping the new F1’s from blowing up. Once they figured those out the rocket got shat out in essentially no time. Meanwhile SLS ALREADY HAD MUSEUM ENGINES AND HAS BEEN IN DEVELOPMENT FOR A DECADE
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There WILL BE apple blossoms on Mars. I will make sure of it.
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>>13421959
spacex suit isn't for EVA
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>>13421962
That idea pairs wonderfully with the story of Johnny Appleseed, planting apple trees all over the American frontier as a mark of civilization.
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>>13421934
obviously
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>>13421959
Didn't the Gemini astronauts complain about the temperature in their suits?
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>>13421836
Gee(like jee) - mini (like the make of car)
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>>13421975
i'll kill you if i ever hear you say that out loud
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Why is booster testing going so smoothly?
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>>13421988
Starship testing already caught most of the bugs related to tankage and engines. It's basically just the plumbing and thrust puck in question right now.
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>>13421975
I hate Earthers
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>>13421782
You gonna post a few of them when Starship reaches orbit, aren't you?
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>Jeff Bezos' guest describe a short, crowded spaceflight experience: 'There was not quite enough room'

OH NO NO NO NO
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>>13422005
>the Dutch
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>>13422005
Honestly I’d be content with sitting in my seat they should be grateful I even gave them a ride on New Shepard
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>>13422008
it was mercury grandma
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>>13422005
I hate to say it, but I imagine the inspiration 4 experience might be similar. Imagine spending a few days with 4 people, in the same room.
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>>13421996
This
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>>13421561
Thats a legit dick ship
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>>13422030
Spending enough time in space to get bored, read a book, check /sfg/ is the way it should be. Inspiration4 crew has also been spending every day together for the past few months already
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give me some soundtracks to fly to orbit to
https://youtu.be/6RDctwxUic0?t=1780
here's what I'm listening to right now
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>>13422030
>this anon hasn’t gone to boot camp
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>>13422044
Outer wilds soundtrack
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>>13422030
Inspiration4 looks comfy but imagine taking a shit
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>>13422066
You should be used to shitting in front of other people
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>>13422030
With New Shepard, you're working against time to try taking it all in within that brief three minutes or whatever, so you're tripping over people to get the most out of it. On Dragon, there's no rush.
This is a good reason why space hotels or fully-functional crewed Starships are necessary though. Having time and space in space would make it that much better.
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>>13422066
A few days? I can hold it
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>>13422044
Gustav Holst - Jupiter
Peter Schilling - Major Tom
David Bowie - Life on Mars/Space Oddity/Ashes to Ashes/Starman/Ziggy Stardust/Blackstar
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>>13422036
the real question is if isaacman will bugger the gimp qt while the nig and the nerd nap
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>>13422030
Imagine having to take a shit while facing three others. I’m sure its fine for career astronauts that have been desensitized over years of training, but not for literal whos.
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>>13422072
need more cute girls posing in front of big dildos
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>>13422072
>>13422087
If you build it, they will come
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>>13422087
>>13422072
imagine the stomach bulge when they sit on it
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I can't wait for the first space hotel and i hope branson makes a orbital space plane to get there
Also lower it from 10 millions to 1
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>>13422096
I used to think that was only possible in hentai
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>>13422100
Mfw never made a visible bulge on a woman
Being a dicklet really does suck
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>>13422100
saw a girl put a 2’ 6” ish flexible dildo in her ass
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So when does BangBros do a 4 person BO trip?

2 well endowed women, a cameraman, and a some stunt cock. 4 minutes of weightlessness to get it up and creamed.
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>>13422076
>Imagine having to take a shit while facing three others.
ISRO will dominate this sector.
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https://twitter.com/SpcPlcyOnline/status/1417883886240010245
>NASA still aiming for manned Mars mission in late 2030s
Imagine if SLS was still the only game in town
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>>13422124
The only SLS based Mars architectures are literally impossible because they assume 4+ launches a year on the very reasonable assumption that the SLS should be at least as responsive and cost effective as the shuttle it replaces.
>Zubrin with a gun.jpg
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>>13421568
>spends two minutes talking about JWST without once saying its name
uh oh it's not looking good Webb bros
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wait, Orion's capsule and the Starliner's capsule are two separate spacecraft?
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>>13422148
Yes?
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>>13422148
stupid frogposter
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>>13422150
they're not the same thing but on different service modules and different rockets?
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>>13422156
No
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>>13422156
STUPID FROGPOSTER
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>>13422156
How long have you been thinking this anon wtf. They literally have different names
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>>13422076
Just put on blindfolds
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>>13422165
*Put them blindfolds
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>>13422100
HotKinkyJo and Siswt are miracles of the universe.
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>>13422128
What about Herr von Braun's saturn 5 direct Mars mission?
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https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/1418062625062068227?s=19
Kojima is going
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>>13422172
That wouldn't have worked without tweaking because it overestimated Martian atmospheric density, and alas, we're all out of Saturn Vs now. The Stuhlinger umbrella ion ships would actually have worked OK in a world without Starship - the spin gravity, fully reusable spacecraft, and large landing craft are all things that more recent designs often struggled with.
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>>13421959
Gemini EVA suits were little more than reinforced rubber bags with life support systems attached. They had very little ribbing in the joints so coordinated movement was very tiring because you had to fight against the pressure. Gemini suits were also not nearly as well insulated or puncture resistant.
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>>13422187
Reminder to euthanize all twitter users.
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>>13422187
Kojima for dearMoon
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>>13422187
based. He’ll probably buy a seat for his BF Mads. then he’ll write a game with ex military operators fighting crime in space but with a gay romance with mads’ evil character.
Mads will say something bizarre and profound and get drunk in space, take some weird photos.
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>>13422187
Is he rich enough to afford a Dragon flight?
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>>13422226
LEL
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>>13422229
Nevermind, he's only worth $30 million. Suborbital it is.
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>>13422071
>Peter Schilling - Major Tom
Good taste. I love that version.
>>13422044
This is decent general electronic that goes with most things:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdybkREUiEU
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>>13422044
If you're aiming for a prograde orbit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAG4XXCOj48
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>>13422187
He's
alright
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>>13421986
That's how all of the astronauts said it.
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>>13422263
I'm not sure I can hit a retrograde or polar orbit with this spaceplane, I make 95% of the burn to orbit below 30 km and the gap between orbital and surface speed might kill it due to the severely lacking thrust/weight ratio
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>>13422226
holy fucking kek
where did you find this
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>64 launches this year
>111 launches in 2018
will we beat 2018?
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>>13422317
will we beat 1967
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>>13422187
this is like half the replies
can we shoot these people already
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Bump
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>>13422321
we'd need 71 more launches for that
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>>13422321
Preferably out of the pisslock
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>>13422324
>bumping /sfg/
based retarded newfag
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>>13422324
Based
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>>13422321
>umm actually thats a twitter screencap and that doesn't represent the normie opinion :^)
there, I've given you the typical response by some anons on this general. argue with it and they'll tell you to go back to /pol/
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>>13422367
it represents like a quarter of the population probably.
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Imagine a nightmare timeline where National Team won HLS
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>>13422367
>caring about what woke commie socialist libs think
Living rent free
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>>13421988
slow is smooth and smooth is fast :^)
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>>13422378
>Blorgini becomes the company that killed a woman and a darkie in space
>Jeff Who quietly leaves public life forever
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>>13422324
I hate how dead euro hours are
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>>13422194
>drunk in space
What a life!
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>>13422403
Euros hate privatized industries lmao. They're all about communism/socialism, even worse than leftists here in states.
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>>13422403
Truth is that 90% of hardcore space fans are Americans
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>>13422413
And another 6% are Russian.
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>>13422321
Kill the rich, elon is the only exception
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>>13422415
Russians are cool I just never can seem to find them on /sfg/
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>>13422378
best timeline
>delayed constantly and runs over cost
>old school lander, out dated everything
>landing set for late 2030
>elon lands a fully private starship on the moon in 2026
>oldspace totally shamed, public outcry, funding changes, bezos killed by angry antifa mobs when his amazon blimppalace crashes in the Puget Sound
>elon given mandate of heaven to go to mars
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>excited for base on the Moon
>remember that Orion can only take 4 people there
we're going to need a company like Axiom to build a commercial base on the Moon... I wonder if any companies have it in their long term plans? they'd just have to attach a module to NASA's base like they do on the ISS.
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>>13422435
bro you are thinking small time
just build a landing pad and send starships
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>>13422413
I'm European. Problem is the only thing worth talking about in space is SpaceX and they won't do anything interesting during the nightshift.
I could shitpost about nuclear pisslocks or whatever, but I don't think this gets us anywhere.
I guess I read an article talking about how Ariane 6 upper stage is such an overweight piece of shit that it now needs a kickstage developed for more money than electron cost to develop total.
And I guess I could look up some tweet from some cocky Jean Jacque Guiseppe from ESA or Arianespace and juxtapose it with this new information going "OHNONONONONO".
But I'm actually at work right now and can't be asked.
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>>13422435
There's a company NASA gave contracts to, the $2.9B in contracts. That company will handle it if given the approval. Thats the ONLY company in the world that can take mass payloads that are anywhere close to whats needed for moon base. The ONLY company that can get to the moon for an affordable price.
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>>13422425
I didn't spend half of my life learning English for no reason.
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Reminder, Jeff Bezos is 57 years old. How many more years does he have left before his state of mind becomes senile? 5 years? 10 years? Can Bezos run BO @ 67? BO's death clock is ticking.

Musk is 50, he can still probably go to his 60, probably without too much issue. Maybe even 65-70. But I think with SpaceX's push for Mars colony at a rapid pace, Musk will likely retire on mars when he's 65, spending the next 10+ years on Mars and the first person to live/die on Mars.
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Just how high off the ground do your solar panels need to be to avoid the Lunar night?
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-industry-to-mature-vertical-solar-array-technologies-for-lunar-surface
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>>13422485
nah
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>>13422485
L4.
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>>13422467
musk is a zaddy but bezos is a fatty. not even dad bod he’s a lex luther looking mf with a shiny head.
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I looked it up, the answer is hundreds of meters to a few km.
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>>13421538
Bald
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>>13422485
Based solarchad but there are spots on the lunar south pole that are constantly lit.
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>>13422187
If he chooses to go with Starship/Dragon I imagine the popularity of SpaceX in Japan is only going to get even bigger. Makes me think how spaceflight will be more in their minds and its future abundance in the anime and manga industry.
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>>13422540
he isn't stupid, he'd notice starship's existence when looking this shit up, and realize its all about making space dirt cheap
he'll kick back and wait, so that he can go to space on a starship for a dirt cheap price
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>Careful analysis of imagery and topographic conditions on the lunar South Pole by teams from NASA and the ESA revealed a small number of illuminated ridges within 15 km of the pole, each of them much like an island of no more than a few hundred meters across in an ocean of eternal darkness, where a lander could receive near-permanent lighting (for ~70–90% of the southern lunar winter, and likely all of the southern lunar summer).
Damn that would be such a cool spot to overwinter on. Scenic 4k Moon space drone videos when?
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>>13421590
Pretty cool idea, but I reckon the main problem is uneven terrain at the landing points. It has to be certain there isn't a big rock where it lands making it trash for exploring new areas.
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>>13422165
imagine the smell
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did you know that the part of the FAA regulations governing how to get permission to start a launch site is governed by Part 420 of Subchapter C of Chapter III of Title 14
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new shepard is pretty impressive imo
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>>13422702
it's a penis
it's not even a big penis
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>>13422710
smol pp
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>>13422738
smol hydrologgs pp can't make orbit
chad thick methalox pp fucks other planets and the moon
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>>13422406
Does anyone have a gif of new shepard's ascent?
Whoever was aiming the camera is a genius.
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>>13422745
>ywn be mars and get penetrated by hundreds of starships
its not fair
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What did I just find sfg?
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>>13422780
Your mums dildo
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>>13422780
ESA's secret roggit
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>>13422780
this thing: >>13421724
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>>13422087
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>>13422263
Eastbound and Down, loaded up and trucking
we're gonna do what they say can't be done
we've got a long way to go, and a short time to get there
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>>13422808
>you vs the guy she told you not to worry about
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>>13422780
Poorly disguised V2
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>>13422321
Frankly the morons who think we want to go into space because we want to "abandon Earth" which is a "dying planet" according to them and we should invest the money here (rather than taking it from Nintendo Switch or iPhones or whatever bugmen like) anyway make me more furious than hot takes against space billionaires.
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spoiler alert, I could not do what they said could not be done and crashed into the bottom of the salt flat
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>>13422750
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>>13422825
If those brainlets ever bothered to look into the ideas and beliefs that someone like Bezos holds, they'd find that it's the other way round. They don't want to escape erf, they want to get rid of all the poors and all the industry by offworlding it all, and then turn the planet into a giant nature reserve to be enjoyed only by those exclusive enough/rich enough to be allowed to live there.

In a Bezos-timeline, O'Neill cylinders wouldn't be anything like the Syd Mead concept art that most people think of. They'd be giant favelas filled with factories. Giant orbital industrial complexes with attached habitation areas. A person could be born in the slums of Dupont Plastic Injection Moulding Facility #23-B, never knowing any other life outside of its artificial compounds.

They would go to the local astroturf municipal park, admire the handful of real plants scattered here and there, while looking out of the plexiglass dome windows at the blue green orb above. The closest they'll ever come to it. And then the siren blows to warn him that the 15 minute lunchbreak is over in 2 minutes, time to get back to work.
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>>13422897
sounds based honestly
except replace the poor workers with robots
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>Pirs undocking will be moved to Saturday
https://twitter.com/Ian_Benecken/status/1418141144685420552

>Nauka's main engines (pictured in operation) are currently out of commission. Specialists are troubleshooting the issue and developing a backup rendezvous plan. The module has ~30 stable orbits at current altitude.
https://twitter.com/RussianSpaceWeb/status/1418165112410619905
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I need to get into capturing radio signals. pic related: Nauka telemetry.
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>>13422907
>20 years building it
>engines fail in orbit
The absolute state of Russian aerospace
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>>13422845
That drone camera was actually good. But that is not what I was looking for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTGbDwfz1CA&t=73

T+01:03

The camera movement is, well, funny...
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>>13422916
I can't help laughing like a filthy-minded schoolboy
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>>13422922
why arent their astronauts called seamen
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>UPDATE: #Nauka's main engines (pictured in operation) are currently out of commission. Specialists are troubleshooting the issue and developing a backup rendezvous plan. The module has ~30 stable orbits at current altitude. EXCLUSIVE DETAILS:
https://twitter.com/RussianSpaceWeb/status/1418165112410619905

They only had 45 hours to save Nauka, it's fucking over.
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>>13422922
T+1:53 is absolutely kino.
It is totally not a dick dicking its way into the atmosphere.
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>>13422916
>>13422922
>>13422930
like that?
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>>13422932
god i wish i was the atmosphere
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>>13422932
inb4 ufo schizos saying this displays "abnormal movement defying the laws of physics"
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>>13422932
Yeah like this
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Nauka crashing back down in 30 orbits GO
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>>13422967
All fudposting come from this faggot, was it even confirmed?
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>>13422187
>>13422540
I guess we know what Kojima's next game is gonna be about. Hopefully he goes on Starship. Could he still get on Dear Moon?
>>13422226
But does it feel more like sucking or getting sucked?
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>>13421660
confirmed for catching arm mechanism
the big black tubes go all the way around the tower
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I think space travel is impractical concerning
outside of our solar system.
If light speed is a constant (it isn't) then we will never see new solar systems or only
a few.

To be able to travel across the galaxy or other galaxy
we have to have a complete different understanding of physics.
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>>13423013
we got time to figure it out
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>>13422967
What if they get it into a stable orbit without being able to dock? Can they tug it with a Progress? Or will they just say "fuck it, this is our new space station?"
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>>13423017
I'm not sure, my government is trying to destroy the white race and replace them with people who never advanced further then the stone age.
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>>13423017
Plus China thinks it's a good Idea to use bioweapons against the whole world.
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>>13423031
stop snorting the doomer powder
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>>13423021
That progress would slowly start seeing failures as it gets close, until all radio contact is lost
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>>13422967
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http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fnplus1.ru%2Fnews%2F2021%2F07%2F22%2Fmlm-fuel

>not enough fuel in Nauka
It's over.
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>>13423101
starship emergency launch soon
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>>13423101
Send up Dmitriy with a fishing rod and have him reel it into place
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Some info from a literal who on twitter that sounds legit: the two main engines of nauka need 45bars of pressure and the auxilliary engines need 8bars. As such, they have different propellant tanks at different pressures, but for some unknown reason the pressure was egalized between the tanks, preventing the firing of the main engines.
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>>13423114
>they have different propellant tanks at different pressures, but for some unknown reason the pressure was egalized between the tanks
OH NO NO NO
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>>13423120
Didn’t know Collins died in April
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Send a Soyuz or Dragon from the station to go give it a boost.
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>>13423114
Nauka is Final Destiniation tier
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>>13423114
>this is the country that boomers would have you believe is our greatest enemy at present
ha
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>>13423021
Nauka is in a slightly lower elliptical orbit, which is almost that of the ISS. With a small push from the onboard engines it can match ISS orbit. My guess is that a progress can absolutely go down there and tug it up.
I'm not sure if you can dock to a dead ship tho, but why not.
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>>13423121
LMAO these are the problems of using pressurized tanks, and this is why reignitions are a meme.
Nuclear tugs don't have this problem.
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waiting for the berger article now
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>>13423101
Rest In Pierogi
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Emergency shuttle launch imminently
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>>13423164
Emergency buran launch
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>>13423164
better odds of a starship doing it
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>>13423114
Man, Russia's been on an absolute bender lately. Holes in the capsule. Soyuz launch failure. Now this.
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>>13423183
… Just attach the Starship to the station.
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>>13423181
>>13423183
>Cykaship manages to reach ISS
>engines shit out again at last moment
>crashes into station
>emergency starship launch to scoop up astronaut cropses with it fairing like a hungry space whale
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>>13423195
>Fit all the Raptors onto BN3
>Modify SN16 for docking or whatever
>No TPS. One way suicide trip
>Stack it, fuel it up with an incomplete launch tower
>Starship orbital launch to reboost Nauka until it can be properly fixed
>Ignore FAA regulations and launch across the southern US to get the right inclination
>You have 48 hours
Can it be done?
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>>13423205
50% chance it just fucking explodes on ascent though
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>>13423205
docking with it, without destroying either would be hard as balls
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>>13423205
As far as I'm aware, BN3 and SN16 have no interstage connecting ability. They also don't have enough raptors on site and it takes about an hour or two to fit each engine.

Maybe an F9 could be sent up? Like, the whole fucking thing. Put some sort of jury-rigged docking/grabbing implement on top of it, put a tiny fairing over that, and just blast it up there one way. F9 comes up alongside Nauka, gives it the nudge(s) it needs, falls back to earth and dies.
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>>13423187
this is probably the last habitation module we ever see from Russia
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>>13423217
>>13423205
russians wouldn't ask musk
and the chance of failure creating debris rules out a rescue mission
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>>13423038
You are quite right.
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Moment of truth incoming...
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>>13423234
What if he does it anyway, for free of course.
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>>13423205
>Analyze Nauka's spin
>Get ready to match our spin with the retro thrusters
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>>13423254
BLESSED
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>>13423254
>It's not possible!
>No, it's necessary
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>>13423205
Why not just use a progress? Starship isn't really ready for launch yet, and i don't think it's necessary
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>>13423253
Who the fuck goes into a cave while it's raining so hard there's a rising flood?
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>>13423121
valves and Russian spaceflight, name a better duo
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>>13422138
The ugly j*ws are trying to have the telescope renamed after some 80 iq monkey. They are his boss.
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>>13423277
It's just a small cabal of a handful of them, but they hold a gun to the agency threatening them with 'mob justice' if their extortionist demands are not met. NASA has to pay protection (IE renaming problematic telescopes) or suffer the consequences.
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>>13422808

>SpaceX originally built two different engines
>one sealevel and one vacuum
>SpaceX realized that's stupid and a waste of resources since the turbo pump and everything is basically the same, the only difference, certain ratios might be different in fuel mixture (potentially) with vacuum engines
>so with RB### value onwards they decided they're going to make just 1 engine for sea level and vacuum deployments and then add a nozzle expansion part to the sealevel raptor and call it a day
>this basically works well enough to qualify for Starship use

I fucking love how they approach engineering. No idea is off the table if you can achieve goal efficiencies with an Occam's Razor approach to anything.
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>>13423120
Actually makes me upset
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>>13423265
The next Progress launch is in October, and I doubt the one docked to the ISS has enough fuel to come down for a reboost.

However, looking up the list of upcoming launches to see who else can rescue Nauka...no...it can't be...
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>>13423286
So ugly that nauka will suddenly fix itself to fly away from it
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>>13423286
If Nauka fails to ram the ISS into oblivion then the task will fall to Starliner.
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>>13423289
lmao
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>>13423286
BAH GAWD IS THAT BOEING'S MUSIC?
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>>13423290
hahah
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>>13423205
>workers suddenly start slamming raptors under BN3
>everyone thinks its for the static fire
>they just keep pulling raptors out of no where
>12 hours later the full stack takes off as the FAA stomp on there hats
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>>13423286
>docks to Nauka
>thrusters go haywire again
>Alarms blare on the ISS, woop woop, collision imminent
>all crews pile into Dragon
>eject just in time to see them both collide like the fucking demoliton derby out the window, twisted metal falling back to Terra Firma
Kino
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>radiation dose on the far side of the moon are 2.6 times LEO
>astronauts are only allowed in LEO for a maximum of a year
that gives you 4.5 months of allowed time in deep space. just enough time to get your ass to mars...
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>>13423312
They would have to deorbit, and our record of “humans in space since 2000” would be in jeopardy. The chinese are still aboard their station right?
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>>13423313
won't it be better inside the ships and surface habs though? not like you're standing outside naked
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>>13423312
>tfw
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>>13423302
the thought of forklifts just bringing out tens of engines from the tents like an overstuffed clown car is hilarious
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Nauka is kill
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>>13423332
>forklifts driving all over the place in sped-up footage
>some of them bump into one another, swap raptors, drivers get out and mime arguments before swapping forklifts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjedLeVGcfE
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>/sfg/ competitive league when?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1693780/Orbital_Combat/
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BROS SET YOUR CALENDARS, THE SNAKE BRUNO WILL BE INTERVIEWED BY JOHN MICHAEL GODIER https://youtu.be/hcel_HM0whI
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what percent of Roscosmos knew that Nauka was going to fail? 40%? 60? I bet every one of those fuckers knew how bad things were and launched it anyway just to get it over with.
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>>13423343
Soyuz 1 vibes
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>>13423205
The perspective on that image is complete fucking nonsense, how does someone put in all the effort required to make that entire 3d model just to fuck it up at the last moment by not lining it up properly? There's tools that'll do this automatically for you ffs.
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>>13423335
Nah, they wanted to use Nauka as a core module of the ROS and now they have a perfect excuse to not dock it with the ISS.
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>>13422674
kek
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>>13423352
Probably just changed the FOV or something. You don’t need “tools to help you,” it’s literally a 3D model anon
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What’s wrong with Russia? Does this kill the /pol/posters who suck off Russia 24/7?
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>>13423339
I will only buy it if I can play as Voyager being ridden by Feynman.
Also should get to 1HKO the shittle by summoning the Holy O-Ring of Austin
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hop when?
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>>13423357
changing the fov doesn't do anything, it just zooms in the image, what he did was place the camera in completely the wrong location and angle compared to where the real image was taken
>You don’t need “tools to help you,” it’s literally a 3D model anon
I'm not saying the perspective on the 3d model itself is wrong, I'm saying the perspective after he placed it over the photo is wrong because he just slapped it on with no regard for anything. You don't need tools, but there are tools that'll find the correct camera position for you if you're too retarded to do it manually.
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>>13423371
BN3 won't hop
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When we've got a few dozen starships built, it will be possible to do these crazy rescue missions. A space coastguard.
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Why doesn’t SpaceX do a full duration green run for Superheavy? If SLS did a 3 second static fire it would’ve had an engine fail in flight as the issue cropped up at 67 seconds.
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>>13423381
No raptor has really had a problem enduring firing, it's the startup that always breaks it so far.
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>>13423381
cause starship raptors are the same and they already did full duration fires
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>>13423381
spacex already did multi minute long runs in the form of starship flights and its not that big of an issue if one engine fails on superheavy, its only 1/33rd of the thrust
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>>13421962
>I've befriended the distant stars
>Don't worry about me, don't be sad
>As we left our Earth we promised
>That apple trees will blossom on Mars
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>>13423381
>This kills the launchpad
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>>13423343
It's like they learned nothing with Phobos-Grunt. I at least hope that we get the cosmonauts doing a desperate last minute docking to the ISS manually just for the kino of seeing the recording of that happening.
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>>13423381
See:
>>13423394
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Are any other boards talking about Nauka? This is rather funny
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>>13423397
Wait, are there people on board the module? I thought it was empty.
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APOLOGIZE for calling me a FUD poster when I said it was over for Nauka yesterday.
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>>13423399
no, all other boards are brainlets
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>>13423379
>"Looks like 4ASS are stuck in GEO again"
>"Dammit bob, that's the third time this month. Kids these days need to watch their orbits"
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>>13423401
It is, you pilot it remotely from ISS.
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>>13423401
No, but they might have to manually pilot it if the ground can't fix all issues (assuming they even make the burns to get to the ISS).
If they can't even get it to the ISS orbit, it's ogre.
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>>13423379
if starship was on schedule it could be done right now
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>>13423373
Ooooh oh I got you. Yeah if he placed the model over a background after rendering then he could have fucked it up
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>>13423410
what do you mean? the timeline is only like a year behind
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>>13423401
There is an airlock, one could theoretically get inside
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>>13423401
They occasionally have to manually control Progress cargo craft from the ISS, this is probably the same.
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>>13423417
nearly 2 years behind
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>>13423392
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckNIMPQoBPw
The dreams of the past will be fulfilled one day...
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>>13423410
Starship is remarkably on schedule for a rocket
>Starship
2020 planned, 2021 actual (probably)
>New Glenn
2020 planned, 2023 actual
>Vulcan
2019 planned, 2022 actual
>Ariane 6
2020 planned, 2022 actual
>Space Launch System
2017 planned, 2022 actual
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>>13423423
The image posted is the 2016 ITS timeline which is so far from anything in reality it doesn't even make sense to compare anything to it (red dragon lol).
If you compare things to the 2017 BFR timeline we're not far behind.
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>>13423442
BFR had pretty much the same timeline as ITS though. It’s not important at the end of the day
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>>13423436
The fact that starhopper flew in 2019 is crazy. I’m not trying to move the goal post or anything but even if Starship took till 2024 to go orbital it would still be fast as fuck
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>>13423247
punderated post
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I went to the Russian version of 2chan to see if I could find cope posts about Nauka but didn't really find any. I did however find this meme. I guess the Russians are already space blackpilled.
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>>13423462
I wish we had way more russians on /sfg/
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>>13423451
Problably orbital in mid 2022
Late 2022 to catch superheavy and to land starship
Mars ready problably 2024
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>>13423436
>>13423451
>>13423466
when you add to the fact that Starship is a much more advanced rocket compared to the other shit buckets, with many of its parts breaking new ground in terms of rocket technology its quite remarkable that they will fly it SOONER. But that's old space for you, Spacex deserves all the praise it gets
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>>13423475
I never actually thought Starship would be orbital before SLS or Vulcan but it’s a weird world
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>>13423381
would deorbit earth
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>>13423478
Thanks to Elon and his autism but also his knowledge, not only in the engineering he does himself but also for recognizing this gap in the market and going full goatse with it and dominating with the Falcon rocket. He could've stopped there but he's going even further with Starship
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>>13423478
What’s the latest update on BE-4? When the fuck is vulcan going to fly
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>>13423402
Anon, it's been over for Nauka ten years ago
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>>13423489
According to Tony, all of the issues have been resolved and the engine has entered production phase.
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Reminder that new gleen will be the best rocket ever after starship
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>>13423489
>When the fuck is vulcan going to fly
sometime next year when they get all of the parts, test them, put them together and test them again. Probably Q3-Q4 2022
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>>13423495
Not so fast
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>>13423465
They'd probably fit right in.
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>>13423500
Less payload maybe number 3
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>>13423499
What the fuck
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>>13423495
New glenn would actually be a great rocket if it came out now or a year or two ago
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>>13423501
Where is this?
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>>13423503
its ULA what did you expect
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>>13423501
Hahahah
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>>13423506
What does it take to bankrupt these shits?
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>>13423381
They will, it will just be in mid-air during it
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>>13423504
If it came out in 3 years its still gonna btfo the whole market but starship
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>>13423501
Based. Anatoly gets the rope for hiding this information under a $50 flat paywall. I wish that Katya had gotten the scoop first, at least she'd tell us the important bits.
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>>13423516
Nah they will only launch 2 a year, max
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>>13423519
It has a max launch rate of 12 per year according to the payload users guide
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>>13423387
>No raptor has really had a problem enduring firing
You sure about that?
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>>13423516
Vulcan will have better payload to GTO and beyond
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>>13423387
>>13423526
Weren't there a few early shutdowns also?
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>>13423525
Like that’s ever gonna happen. Pisses me off that people would even take that number seriously
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>>13423534
>>13423526
The only Raptor to have an issue in flight was on SN15 and it shut down a few seconds early. Also Starhopper’s engine had trouble but that was one of the earliest Raptors ever made
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>>13423526
there was also that time SN11 fucking exploded thanks to raptor
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>>13423505
Sorry, I fucked up the link think it worked the same way as 4chan. It's:

https://2ch DOT hk/spc/res/666601.html
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>>13423542
That was on relight though. Superheavy wouldn’t have an issue with that Raptor working in ascent
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>>13423540
>Starhopper
>SN9
>SN11
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Bros is Nauka kill?
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>>13423526
>>13423534
Those aren't raptors issues. Those are housing issues. The engines are fine. The recent SN15 example with third engine not being fired isn't because of raptor issue but due to low fuel pressure.
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>>13423565
Not yet, but the doctors don't give it long. Better say goodbye now Anon, while you still can
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> I mean, LEO to Earth-Sun L1 and back is hypothetically only about 6.8 km/s away. A fully fueled Starship on a service run could reach out and a crewmember on EVA could give James Webb a swift kick to make its sunshade deploy all the way. Oh right, and then they'd have the mass margin to drop off 15 JWSTs worth of ballast sand because that's just how ridiculous Starship is.
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>>13423565
All hope is not lost yet, anon. Trust mission control.
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>>13423594
>dude let's just make like ten more of these and throw them at different orbits
>actually cheaper than fixing any one of those, lmao
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>>13423381
The issue was due to too stringent testing parameters specifically for the green run, it would not have even come up in the real flight

The green run unironically delayed SLS unnecessary, but better safe than sorry
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>>13423613
>unnecessarily*
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SHEEEEEEEEEEEEESH
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>>13423565
They're going to try a test firing soon.
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>>13423619
shesh
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>>13423624
Bussin bussin
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>>13423605
If they mass produced them maybe the price would come down
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>>13423629
>because of starship mass production and launching of orbital telescopes is manageable
don’t even need to be Webb tier for this to be amazing. imagine astronomy not constrained by atmosphere or only having a few orbital telescopes. imagine a world where every uni has their own mini hubble… just think how exponentially our discoveries would increase
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New video out! Did one on Starship's path from a prototype to an actual commercial launch vehicle. Nice change of pace from the doom machine that is New Glenn.
Link: https://youtu.be/_M9VD-8wh7Q
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Europa Lander
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>>13423646
Nice file name. Also 3 uploads within a week let’s fucking go
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>>13423646

Cargoship putting 480 Starlinks per launch is really going to scare the ever loving fuck out of every satellite ISP provider. Especially Amazon with Project Kuiper, considering Atlas launches can only do a handful per flight.
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If the main engines are truly fucked but they reach a stable orbit that will last months, how are they going to rescue it? According to Katya, it's too massive to be pushed by Progress or Soyuz.
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CRASHING THIS MODULE WITH NO SURVIVORS
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>>13423285
pictures this nice make me wish NSF didn't plaster their dogshit logo on everything
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Maybe, you ever think of that sfg?
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>>13423695
pay up cuckie~
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>>13423646
Nice heatsink
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>>13421630
Same lmao. Shit sucks but I would fail miserably even if I tried.
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>>13423703
Adam Schiff should be rendered into rocket fuel so he finally is useful in some capacity.
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>>13423703
caring about kids lmao
here is your (you) anyway
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>>13421836
The former is closer to the original Latin pronunciation. Disregard retards.
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>>13423708
If you want the full sad story I just met an astrophysics major but I have since graduated and she’s still at school. She posts about vintage rockets on social media and has a starlink setup at her apartment. Fml these women do exist but they are unicorns. 4 years of nothing and then I get blueball’d
>>13423703
I want to leave this gay planet
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>>13423703
yeah because lack of taxes has been the limiting factor for poverty for the last 100+ years. Politicians lmao
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>>13423703
bezos should pay taxes and he’s a piece of shit loser who is doing actual vanity projects. gives space flight a bad name, people hated him before all this too.
think of all the money wasted on his nonsense and the HLS bullshit, think of the better ways it could be spent.
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>>13423703
I'd rather have poor people waste Amazon's money on booze and hookers than have Amazon ruin LotR with it
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>>13423705
Don't say the c-word...
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>>13423646
Gwynne was actually in a conference thing not that long ago and she said they are aiming for falcon 9 prices
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>>13423703
adam shit
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>>13423725
Sorry to hear that, but you could maybe keep in touch with her and wait for a chance, who knows. On the other hand, you just graduated, things will get better for sure.
Good luck!
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>>13423733
This.
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Urgency in space is pure kino. Really hope they save Nauka.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zlSUvWU6z8
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https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/22/virgin-galactic-flight-test-director-mark-stucky-leaves-company.html
>Virgin Galactic’s flight test director and pilot Mark “Forger” Stucky parted ways with the company this week for unspecified reasons.
>Stucky announced his departure on LinkedIn, adding that he did not leave the space tourism company “on my own timeline.”
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What happened to Nauka, apparently
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>>13423759
He said that it was unsafe and they fired him
Simple as not a smart move by him
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>>13423760
Spess hard ex dee
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>>13423759
I hate how these awful, unambitious companies suck up all the media attention and give spaceflight a bad name.
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Does nauka have docking port?
Send a unmanned dragon and drive nauka to the ISS
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>>13423760
jesus christ, russia really is fallen on hard times. makes the vatnik cope even funnier tho
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>>13423759
Just bought even more stock after this, pilot was a bad apple, hebshorted the stock and posted FUD about safety. if it was so dangerous bransen himself was there
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>>13423759
Goddamnit one moment Virgin is cool and the next they revert to being assholes reminds me of my ex hah
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>>13423760
Anatoly said they are just rumors for now, but holy shit if it turns out to be true….
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>>13423760
nasa astronauts drilled a hole in it
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>>13423759
Saw this coming. They needed to put a head on the chopping block after the book Test Gods embarrassed them and Mark didn't sugarcoat shit. Imagine allowing a journalist free rein to talk to all your employees and the end result is that he tears your company a new asshole.
>>13423773
Dragon probably doesn't have enough delta-v to get to the station while moving a 20t+ object.
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>>13421836
It's pronounced with a hard G (and a hard R)
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>>13423790
Does nauka have a couple docking ports? Send many dragons and drive to the iss
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>>13423796
putputputput
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>>13423796
Dragon only has like 400 m/s dv
No way it could do it
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>>13423646
Infographics throughout the video needs to be updated. Thats whats lacking. Original graphic content.
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>>13422321
>We're so inept that we'll all die if rich people leave
Kek. Twitter is truly the bathroom stall of the internet and all its users are constantly shitting.
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>Sergei it’s no use. Nauka is dead
>Do not worry Vladimir. I will make a call
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>>13423810
>>13423813
Okay what about if we put a Falcon 9 second stage as a payload for Falcon heavy and dock it to nauka?
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>>13423813
I'm not saying it's impossible, but...
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>>13423796
Kek, they were going to send the Prichal module up after this which is like a ball with six docking ports. They can pay SpaceX for five Dragon launches.
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>>13423818
God i just lmao too hard Lol
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Ok what would happen if Starliner was repurposed to save Nauka
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>>13423814
Yeah, been thinking about how to start making my own graphics. Any suggestions for some good applications for that kind of stuff?

>>13423668
I do my best.
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>>13423831
it cant. nauka only has a day left. it would need something on the pad now or already in space.
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>>13423847
>Any suggestions for some good applications
Arrrg, thar be adobe products. Or you can do what I do and use powerpoint. It's actually really powerful once you learn how to use the merge shapes tool under the shape format toolbar
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>>13422674
In context of that episode, this is a pro-NASA meme.
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>>13423886
Yeah no one has mentioned this yet but that was my first thought lol.
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>>13423886
Yep nasa has soul while space x doesn't
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Nauka has 20 hours left
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>>13423895
Fuck i hope it falls on the white house
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>>13423847
Compile some spreadsheets, with some data from various sources over the net, updated with the latest infos. Then copy/paste them over paint.net to prettify them.

If you want animated form, you can use blender, but thats too much trouble. Paint works just as fine. Or if you are old school, there's also slideshows. Slideshows make pretty presentations.
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>>13423760
Apollo 13 but with fuel.
When will we learn that pressurized stuff and space are not good friends.
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>>13423892
true, much more soul. all the souls of the dead astronauts they’ve killed are used to infuse every new rocket to appease the gods of death.
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>>13423900
MFW it deorbits and lands on the FAA hive
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>>13423895
Play the song of time to go back to the first day. You’ll lose all your rubles though
>>13423901
The learning curve for blender is fucked. I used to want to make animations and render my sketchup models and stuff. I downloaded blender and then got overwhelmed
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Bro they still have like a dozen tests to do before they even stack Orion on top
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2021/07/artemis-1-prelaunch-checks/
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>>13423895
I'm not sure the "~30 orbits" was ever accurate.
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>>13423923
How in the name of fuck do they ever expect to launch more than one per year at this rate?
Also reminder that boeing’s lander proposal forced either a block 1B to be built—or required more than 1 launch of SLS so it could be assembled in orbit. And they sold it to NASA as the “quickest and simplest method” to get to the Moon
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>>13423917
There is an alternative to ms powerpoint/paint/blender/etc. That is javascript/html/css libraries. Or more broadly, programming them. That might also be bit arcane however it allows great flexibility.
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Is there any reason they wouldn't be able to use the spare Soyuz just to lift Nauka's orbit and give them more time to think of something better?
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>>13423937
Literally just a frankenstein starliner. I hope NASA never does business with boing! ever again
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Nauka might make it
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>>13423940
The Soyuz already in space doesn't have enough fuel to boost Nauka, and even if it did, you'd now have left the ISS without a lifeboat for the astronauts in case of an emergency. Progress would be a better choice, but it would still take a long time to rendezvous.
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>>13423940
What time? As long as it is coplanar with the ISS Nauka can wait for the next rendezvous chance in its current orbit.
There will be windows of opportunity periodically.
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>>13423937
2 per year by 2030s. after the program has been cancelled
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>>13423948
I both want it to work and want it to fail help me bros
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>>13423948
There's something endearing about the last vestige of Soviet space station technology desperately trying to beat the odds and make it
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>>13423946
>asymmetrical legs
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>>13422897
>erf, they want to get rid of all the poors and all the industry by offworlding it all
Based, fuck the third world.
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>>13423860
Hate the subscription model, might just bite the bullet though.

>>13423901
Actually tried blender and and it took me 4 hours just to make a shitty falcon 9 model lol. I'll look into all the recommendations, thanks!
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>>13423950
>you'd now have left the ISS without a lifeboat for the astronauts in case of an emergency
Doesn't Dragon have seven seats for the whole crew?
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Why is Dragon 2 so different from Dragon 1
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>>13423646
>Chomper
Every time I see it, I hear pic related
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>>13423984
upgraaaaaaades
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>>13423991
Upgrayedd
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>>13423984
A pressurized vehicle meant to carry cargo and a pressurized vehicle meant to carry people are very different things and not as interchangeable as you'd think. It's why ESA had such a tough time trying to come up with a way to make a crew version of the ATV before eventually saying fuck it
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>>13424008
why can't you just put chairs in the cargo version
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>>13424029
The original crew dragon was literally just the cargo dragon with an abort tower.
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>>13423125
BLAAAAAYYTTTT
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>>13424029
You'd need to rework the entire inside to have life support capabilities not to mention all the other factors like launch abort systems, man rating it so the crew doesn't vibrate to death on launch etc
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>>13423964
That means you're happy no matter what happens, as long as something happens. Welcome to Team Space, anon
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On one hand, I don't want innocent astronauts to die. But on the other hand, it would be really funny if incompetence of Roscosmos destroyed the ISS.
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>>13423205
Why did he put windows on S20? Is he retarded
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>>13423313
iirc the current radiation limits for astronauts are far below what is actually safe.
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>>13422967
I hope you continue to count down the orbits all the way to reentry
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>>13423466
Starship will be orbital in september, reentry probably won't be successful though until mid 2022.
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>>13423703
The body to which Schiff was elected is the one responsible for setting tax rates.

As a publicly owned company, Amazon is required by law to do everything it can to increase its value, including minimizing its tax liability.

Dude's a prick. It's disgusting that there are so many retard leftists voting for these types of scum.
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What software does Anatoly Zak use for his CGI renders. They’re really good
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Okay I know SN9 and SN10 both exploded on landing but the era where they sat next to each other was one of the greatest in spaceflight history
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>>13423789
we can't rule out this possibility
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>>13423784
>one moment Virgin is cool
When was that?
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>>13424112
high chance that we'll see more together, even if just left to one side after being made, all waiting to be taken to the launchpad
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Event Horizon chad interviewing tory Bruno in 30 bings
https://youtu.be/hcel_HM0whI
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Just had a haircut anons, I was wondering how i'd deal with that in space, usually I come straight home and shower off all hair that gets on my hands, neck etc
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>>13424133
Skylab shower > ISS whatever
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>>13424133
Lack of gravity + built-in vacuum probably means you get much less hair falling in your neck and shirt to start with
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>>13424133
That’s what I do too. In space they cut/vacuum at the same time
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>>13424141
it would have to really succ though
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>>13424054
>>13424068
>>13424106
>>13424107
Not spaceflight and kill yourself for drowning out the Nauka signal with this garbage
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>>13424147
Nauka killed itself.
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>>13424140
didn't consider this, might work quite well then
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Nauka deorbiting OST:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaHwzXJEcUQ

The next revolution will be carried in the name of space supremacy, and just like the last time, the bloodshed will eclipse the great war that came before it.
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The political discussion will continue until the shitty russians tell us whether their shitty soviet era station module survived.
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What's the latest on her? Will she tie today or are Russian space journos fake and gay?
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>>13424133
I’m on Finasteride and I’ve come to terms with the fact that if I go to space for over a year my hair will be gone
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>>13423760
I hope it gets close enough to the station at apogee for the cosmonauts to see it before it falls back into the atmosphere and burns up. Russians thrive on despair so it will be a good thing for Roscosmos.

>>13423907
>When will we learn that pressurized stuff and space are not good friends.
That's going to be an eternal fight as long as people require air.
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>>13424168
>soviet cosmonauts lost weight before takeoff to smuggle booze aboard Salyuts and Mirs
>anon smuggles hairloss pills
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Please someone sabe nauka or atleast make fall on somewhere interesting
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>>13424138
The Skylab shower was more of a torture device than an actual shower... No gravity meant that every time they washed their hair, the water pooled on their face and nose, effectively waterboarding them.

They only used it a few times IIRC.
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>>13424166
Kek exactly. Political talk is the shitpost filler between happenings. In the older days we would talk about rocket engines and material design and hypothetical mission profiles. There’s only so much to say before running out of things to talk about though
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>>13424178
Tbh it goes to show that without SpaceX nothing really cool happens in spaceflight
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>>13424179
They do happen, but they happen once every 4 months. The rise of starlink launches and SS testing really made it routine. Speaking of which what the fuck happened to F9, I feel like it’s been a while
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>Passive radio tracking of #Nauka from the GRAVES radar suggests it maneuvered. The #Nauka module was late by 12 seconds at 18:00UTC today, compared to
@SpaceTrackOrg
TLEs from 09:17UTC. The green prediction for #Nauka is object 49044. The Proton upper stage (49045) was on time.
https://twitter.com/cgbassa/status/1418281226750857220

I don't know if this means it was boosted by the main engine or RCS or some shit.
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>>13424177
>effectively waterboarding them.
so? Don't be a pussy just blow some air out or shake your head
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>>13424188
SpaceX accidentally launched all their customers and ate through their backlog so it’s a bit slow. Starlink shell 1 is complete so they have to get ready to launch Shell 2 from Vandy.
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>>13424188
Starlink is done no more Falcon 9 kino for a while
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>>13424189
>GRAVES radar
They're already prepared for the spacecraft cemetery I see.
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>>13424189
Hope, but is that still enough to save it?
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>>13424198
So I guess the cope was true after all, there's not enough market to sustain Falcon 9 payload capabilities? Starship flights are going to be a big disappointment.
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>>13424216
It's over for spacex.
#WeAren'tReadyYet
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>>13424216
Yeah
Heavy been packing dust without doing anything no spacestation no nothing
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>>13424216
I’m thinking a majority of SS will be starlink, mars cargo, artemis, and mars human transport. I think the market will catch up [eventually] after everyone realizes they could quite literally get a dedicated starship for their 10cm^3 smallsat for cheaper than a new glenn ride share lol
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>>13424216
You are already seen it happening. The Russians don't even have a replacement heavy launcher. The previous Proton launch was a year ago. There is no market for big things other than meme starlink launches, and those are self-bought launches.
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>>13424216
nope, starship is supposed to make it so cheap that small western nations could use it to put their own spacestation in LEO without making a dent in that nations yearly budget.
it's going to get crowded up there.
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>>13424216
cant rely on gov to do anything in space. must be cheap enough for schizos to attempt oneill cylinders
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>>13424220
There's also a market opportunity for a Starship scale reusable space tug now that Momentus crashed and burned.
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>>13424228
>>13424226
Oh sure just like with Falcon heavy
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>>13424235
falcon heavy isnt cheap
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>>13424233
Honestly can one of you faggots just make a startup company already? 99% of them are just shilling for money and they crash & burn. We actually care about space-plus there are plenty of successful companies out there that don’t even build shit themselves. They just design it and outsource manufacturing to other contractors.
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>>13424236
The cheapest heavy payload rocket and no one did shit its not about the rocket anymore its about no one wanting to do anything on space
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https://youtu.be/hcel_HM0whI
woow incredible view of john michael godier giving tony bruno a sloppy rimjob!! get in here bros
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>>13424244
>US$2,350 per kg to LEO and US$5,620 per kg to GTO
Falcon heavy is still way too expensive.
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>>13424244
falcon heavy marginal cost is like 40 million, starship is like 5 million
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Starlink makes a lot of sense. SpaceX probably realized they’d eat through their customers in a few years and in order to make money they’d have to do something else. It’s gonna pay off though because even with its current 500,000 preorders Starlink nets SpaceX $50 million a month.
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>>13424260
>cost estimates for something that hasn't been fully flight tested yet
I smell the shuttle trap.
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>>13424260
>>13424255
Lets hope you guys are right
I think its going to be a while to get there even after starship is running
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>>13424189
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Turn on CNN, Nauka is docking to Mir now!
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>>13424189
>>13424274
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT WAS STARLINERS TURN
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>>13424242
founding a startup is risky under any conditions
founding a startup that mainly does research and development is even riskier
founding a startup that mainly does research and development with a bunch of shitposters who are underqualified, autistic, antisocial or all three is bound to fail
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>>13424242
>Honestly can one of you faggots just make a startup company already?
If one of my /biz/ bets plays out I will.
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>>13424216
the majority of starship flights will be related to mars colonization
>>13424268
>>13424267
anybody who compares starship to shuttle demonstrates that they are newfags. shuttle was designed by committee with thousands of contractors across america (like SLS) and is a totally different design from starship (hydrolox sustainer rocket). SpaceX already made a much more efficient vehicle then the shuttle (falcon 9) and it wasn't even designed for reuse. Starship is designed for reuse from the ground up and skips the issues of the shuttle. Starship is also inherently cheap because the engines (which are already below a million each) are cheap, the material (stainless steel) is cheap, and the fuel is cheap too (methane).
even if starship was fully expendable, which would be an absolutely monumental and unprecedented failure on BOTH SpaceX and NASA's ends (NASA had to accept that SpaceX was likely to get rapid reusability down to accept the HLS as it requires starship orbital refueling), it would probably cost around 50million and be sold on the market for around 100-200 million.
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>>13424268
marginal cost of f9 is 15 million, starship is inherently much cheaper by design. if there are no customer payloads to launch, spacex will own the fucking solar system. they will invest in their own payloads, starlink is just the fucking beginning bro
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I've noticed people on other sci threads talking about starship tend to be horribly informed about spaceflight and spout thunderf00t tier talking points.
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>>13424306
I’m pretty sure most if not all anons comparing starship to shuttle are just shooting the shit
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>>13424306
I never compared starship to shuttle
>>13424310
For a while i think they will lol
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>>13424306
I also forgot to mention that shuttle was developed with the cutting edge technology of... the 1970s. Starship is being developed with the cutting edge technology of the 2020s. That is a 50 year difference. 50 years before 1970, we only had biplanes. It is reasonable assume that 50 years after 1970 we could have actually workable fully reusable rockets, especially again considering SpaceX made Falcon 9 more efficient then the Space Shuttle at reusability without even designing it to be optimized for reuse.
>>13424313
for example, on this thread >>13419336
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>>13424313
/sfg/ is the only worthwhile thread on this entire board pretty much always. There was that mad /sci/entist euthanizing rats a couple weeks back, that one was at least interesting.
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>>13424327
i wonder what happened to him
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>>13424328
Rats got him
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>>13424328
Huddled in an attic feverishly stitching a rat to a pigeon, I imagine.
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>>13423982
ESO finds some cool shit, nice pic
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Shuttle-starship fags BTFO
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Apparently main engines are out but the backup thrusters work on Nauka
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>>13424366
They're down to what, 18 more orbits?
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>>13424362
>cut mass with smaller fins
>we now have the mass budget to return to ITS legs
PLEASE ELON
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>>13424362
It will land horizontally someday sethee
Legs suck
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>>13424379
Is that what you keep telling yourself?
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>>13424362
The bottom fins looks so retarded in their current form, the way they just abruptly cut off into a straight horizontal line.
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>>13424382
There is a reason the catch superheavy and they will catch starship horizontally
>>13421735
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>>13422897
This is great lmao. Imagine loading up the entire hood of your local city and putting them in a vacuum-sealed cylinder fed only by Blue Origin Reparations Rockets (containing rations of corn syrup and, for good behavior, lean)
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>>13424392
You mean vertically
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>>13424387
i actually like how they look
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>>13424378
tripod legs are the most stable and they look cool as absolute fuck
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>>13422903
That's the plan, eventually. Blorgin has art of park like cylinder interiors with relatively low population density.
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>>13424378
It'll probably be pod legs like what is shown on the HLS design, ITS legs as cool as they look aren't very practical
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Remember when SpaceX wanted to go straight from Starhopper to a 20 kilometer flight?
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Raptor removal
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>>13424413
It's over
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New flap design is a lot cooler.
>>13424413
RIP, that probably means they're going to scrap BN3 and focus on BN4 now. No 9 engine test for us I guess.
>>13424410
That was before they had any experience with steel or industrial capacity/infrastructure in boca chica/starbase. Dark times indeed.
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>>13424403
The world wasn’t ready for this yet. God I hope 18m+ SS takes some inspiration from this
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>>13424420
>No 9 engine test for us I guess.
Good it was gonna blow up
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>>13424426
Maybe not, they raised the test pad height up quite significantly.
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>>13424413
Thank you BN3. We won’t forget you
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>>13424424
>but your kids are gonna love it
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>>13424413
Is it just a raptor-swap?
B-bros?
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>>13424415
>>13424420
>>13424446
>>13424452
It's raining... literally
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Kino rain at the moment
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>>13424453
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kQukPQDSag
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Getting real fucking sick of the doomposters
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Have the russoids given us an update yet?
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>>13424470
> Nauka's orbit correction today appears to be a success, giving cautious optimism to mission engineers.
5 mins ago via russianspaceweb
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>>13424482
never thought i'd be rooting for a junky piece of ISS
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>>13424452
>>13424413
I remember seeing a Raptor “burp” some fire after shutdown. No idea if it’s the same one.
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>>13424510
It was probably just some unburnt methane. Its more likely that they are just done with B3 testing
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With BN3 doing so well my confidence in BN4 is pretty high. Aside from crumpling under the weight of Starship on ascent or the thrust puck disintegrating, she’ll probably do fine
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>>13424548
Any speculation on when the next starship happening will be? I swear to god if I have to wait 3 months for a fucking static fire again…
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>>13424555
As soon as Booster 4 is ready, so probably in 2 weeks or so
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SN20 is almost fully stacked
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>>13424507
HOLY BASED SHUTTLE
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>>13424507
Will spacex slide on mars ice?
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It’s over doomerbros
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https://twitter.com/artzius/status/1418310766000697344
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>>13424188
I heard most of July will be used for repairs at the Cape. I don’t think anyone is launching in Florida right now. I tried to get a source, but I can’t remember where I saw it and there isn’t any info on google news, but that’s what I heard.
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>>13424604
Hahah ex dee rawr
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>>13424592
DIE ALREADY
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What would be different if tory bruno was elon and elon was tory bruno?
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>>13424625
What
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>>13424629
They change bodys today
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>>13424633
Like that lindsay lohan movie?
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>>13424633
ULA's board of directors would fire tory (elon) the instant he started doing elon (elon) things. Company cultures are ingrained all the people inbetween, not just top level guys.
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>>13424592
we almost had it bois
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>>13423758
>you remove the core
>this starts playing
No gaming experience had ever given me such dread and anxiety instantly as when doing the final voyage. I don't think that I'll ever experience any game with the same atmosphere... I wish I could play this again.
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>>13424604
>FIRST ONE TO TALK GETS TO STAY ON MY SUPERHEAVY
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>>13424561
>in 2 weeks
TM
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>>13424663
A LOTTA LOYALTY FOR SOME HIRED THRUST
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>>13424604
what kind of cringe post is this
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>>13424669
Pottery
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>>13424681
The average spacex fan. This is the type of shit elon would laugh at
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>>13423758
>>13424654
BASED
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>>13424683
>(You)
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>>13424510
>burp
this is what a real burp looks like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3ZjTpxpI1I&t=1h50m19s
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>>13423352
aside from the tower being in the wrong place, what's messed up about this?
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>>13424708
https://youtu.be/5vfiM10lc1M
>600hz
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>>13424720
The top of the tower is above the horizon so the lines should go downward to keep perspective. Whoever made this rendered each item separately and then eyeballed it into a background. It isn’t egregious but it’s wrong
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>>13424731
härregud
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>>13424731
o my god......this cant be real
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RGV spotted SN20 during a flyover today. Check out that stripe of TPS going around the leeward side to deal with plasma spillover. Cool beans.
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>>13424731
The treatments are failing. His true nature as a Xentrodii from Aldebaran is being revealed
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>>13424761
New flaps are also spotted and confirmed by Elon. They're roughly 30% smaller.
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>>13424761
Still can’t believe this rocket will be on par with a saturn v. It looks like… shit. In a good way I guess?
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>>13424771
For a second that top flap reminded me of old WW1 bi-planes. Wood + doped fabric construction wen?
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>>13424771
wait i didn't notice this before, is the flap shape a trapezoid type, that's gonna make the ship look completely different
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>>13424774
Twice as powerful as Saturn V, upto 20x more cargo payload to Mars than Saturn V.
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>>13424784
Its not, that's the second flap underneath.
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>>13424774
BN3 didn't look like much until it was being moved out to the pad and we got good photos of tiny people and cars next to it. I think the sheer S C A L E of the bloody thing adds to the coolness factor, and these shots of pieces from odd perspectives don't do them justice. Also, polished stainless finish is the best timeline, don't @ me
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>>13424788
>cargo payload to Moon*
fixed

10MT
vs
200MT
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>>13424784
What nah, this is how the flaps have looked for a while now.
The bottom flaps used to be more trapezoidal (the bottom barely tapered up as a small triangle) and it looked objectively better in MY opinion
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>>13424778
I don't know about Starship but rumor is New Glenn ditched its isomeme tooling for spruce frame and unbleached muslin wrap
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>>13424796
Wowee this is the power of autism. Von braun would be so proud of starbase, god rest his soul
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>>13424796
Just say tons
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>>13424809
Metric ton is to differentiate from imperial ton. Proper unit distinction is necessary.
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>>13424797
that's not what i'm talking about, i was just retarded and thought the middle two flaps were one, i think i need to fix the contrast on my monitor
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>>13424796
200 mega tons
this is raw power
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>>13424818
lol it happens
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>>13424813
Also
1 Metric ton = ~0.98 imperial (long) ton = ~1.10 US (short) ton
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>>13424813
Every knows 1 ton = 1000kg
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>>13424828
No? Rocket produced in US needs metric clarification. Otherwise, "ton" = US ton.
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If I was a space explorer and I stumbled across an antimatter moonlet, would there be any way for me to tell it’s antimatter before I stepped onto it and detonated like a nuclear bomb?
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>>13424835
When starship says 150 tons its talking about metric
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>>13424835
I always treated a ton as being 2000 pounds, which is probably not the same thing as 100 kilograms
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>>13424835
I personally don’t mind that you clarified, but when talking about rockets ton means ton. Metric ton. No one uses imperial for rockets unless you’re lockheed martin and you crash your climate sat into the martian atmosphere
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>>13424828
This. If the "ton" is used alone without any prefix, it's by definition metric ton. Also, every other "ton" should be discarded and forgotten.
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>>13424798
Wow, are they European now?
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>>13424850
>This. If the "ton" is used alone without any prefix, it's by definition metric ton
Nope. Americans use imperial, where a ton is 2000 pounds

>Also, every other "ton" should be discarded and forgotten
Like Europe?
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>>13424836
Assuming you "stumble" across meaning with your eyes or cameras or sensors on your ship, yes. You'd know if your eyes are seeing positrons. If you're "seeing" through any visible/infrared sensors, the sensors will detect those positrons emitted by anti-matter moonlet.

Violently.

>>13424848
>No one uses imperial for rockets
SpaceX regularly uses both imperial and imperial units. They clarify both unit types in many occasion so as to avoid confusion. The reason is because they are a US company and their workers calculate things internally with imperial units and externally with metric units.
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>>13424827
1 metric tonne = ~0.98 old tons = ~1.1 yanklard tons
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>>13424847
*1000
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>>13424857
>You'd know if your eyes are seeing positrons
How so? Is antimatter purple or something?
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Why the fuck is it called imperial (english) if the US uses it strictly? What a bunch of bullshit, none of the conversions make sense in imperial. And fehrenheit is so ridiculous but i’m too used to it now. I tried changing my phone to celsius but I had no fucking reference. Oh it’s 25° today…. well fuck what does that mean?
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>>13424870
Imperial is british measures.
US uses US customary measures.

They kind of match but sometimes don't (e.g. different tons, US uses cups, brits don't etc)
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>>13424870
You were raised wrong you are fucked teach your kids metric
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>>13424798
based. Retvrn to tradition.
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>>13424870
>Why the fuck is it called imperial (english) if the US uses it strictly?
Came from Britain.
>What a bunch of bullshit, none of the conversions make sense in imperial.
They make perfect sense if you’re habituated to imperial.
>And fehrenheit is so ridiculous
How?
>Oh it’s 25° today…. well fuck what does that mean?
Yeah, I have no idea what Celsius means either. Fahrenheit is best
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>>13424867
Anti-matter is same as matter. Just that they are oppositely charged.

Anti-matter emit positron(+) instead of electron(-) particles. When those electrons meet, they annihilate each other.
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>>13424731
>Rothschilds bow to him
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>>13424836
>>13424857
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatlander_(short_story)
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>>13424883
Learn maths and you will see imperial is fucked you being used to it doesn't make it better
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>>13424867
>>13424884
In practical terms, your eyes would explode, your whole body might explode if the anti-matter emits enough positrons to cancel out all the electrons of the matter that make up your body/ship/sensors/etc.
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>>13424884
Would that be noticeable around the moonlet just from it interacting with the interplanetary medium?
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>>13424876
>>13424870
Oh and the UK is (slowly) getting to metric.
I'm way more comfortable with metric than imperial measures, where my grandparents still cook using ounces and pounds. But we have some exceptions for some reason:

>height of people: feet and inches
>road distances: miles
>milk/beer/cider: served in pints, not ml

Legally all items sold have to have their weights, volumes etc in metric, but the box/carton can also have imperial measures if the manufacturor wants to add them.
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>>13424893
>Learn maths and you will see imperial is fucked
Did lots of math with imperial in high school. Wasn’t particularly hard.
>you being used to it doesn't make it better
Yes it does.
Fahrenheit has smaller numbers so it’s better. Literally zero benefit to using Celsius.
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>>13424856
>Nope. Americans use imperial, where a ton is 2000 pounds
Murricans use the wrong units, so their opinion on this matter is irrelevant.
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>>13424903
Don’t europeans also cook with mass? Like having a scale is a common thing in a euro kitchen? I swear trying to measure out cups and teaspoons and shit is so dumb
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>>13424909
>Fahrenheit has smaller numbers
LMAO
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>>13424894
>In practical terms, your eyes would explode
No they wouldn’t gaybo. Antimatter bounces away normal photons when light hits it. It doesn’t spray “antiphotons” or some shit like that
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>>13424893
metric is soulless
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>>13424909
>>>>>>literally zero benefit to using Celsius
***AMERICAN DETECTED***
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>>13424914
Yes. 100 Fahrenheit is 37.777 in Celsius, so Fahrenheit integers represent smaller differences in temperature. Smaller numbers
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>>13424913
>Don’t europeans also cook with mass? Like having a scale is a common thing in a euro kitchen? I swear trying to measure out cups and teaspoons and shit is so dumb
Wait, you don't have kitchen scales in burgerland?
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>>13424910
Americans use the right units, and America is the only country that’s put people on the moon, so anyone else’s opinion is irrelevant. Europe is a dead continent populated by gay losers, and they will never colonize space.
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>>13424923
Some people do, lots and lots of people don’t. And if they do it sits in a cabinet and collects dust
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>>13424922
You know you can use decimals, right?
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>>13424923
Kitchen ingredients are usually measured by their volume in various measuring cups.
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>>13424920
Fahrenheit is more granular for the temperatures that are relevant to me (American temperatures)
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>>13424910
Sweaty, we're discussing American rocket on American soil by Americans engineers on an American site dedicated to Japanese anime.

I think our opinion is the only one that is relevant. Europoids do not matter in discussion about space. LMAO
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>>13424932
Not having to use decimals is an advantage.
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>>13424938
Damn this is it, chief
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>Why yes i’m european and metric is more refined
>Ummm, n- no we haven’t landed on the moon
>Oh um we sent an espresso machine to the ISS one time
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>>13424933
My right or your right?
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>>13424918
Metric is the soul.
>>13424927
You know NASA uses metric, and only have to convert to autism units because some of their contractors can't into metric?
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>>13424920
Yes. You have detected a citizen of the best country.
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I hate imperial but some bongs weight shit on stones that should be death penalty
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>>13424943
Right (metric)
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>>13424946
Nasa never has and never will use metric. You're completely delusional
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>>13424939
It's literally just drawing a dot or coma. And it's more precise.
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>>13424946
NASA always uses imperial when making public statements because Americans use imperial. They might use metric for engineering or something, but who cares? NASA engineering is overpriced shit
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>>13424916
If the antimatter in question were single particle sized. Your conclusion may make sense. But we're talking about a giant fucking antimatter moon thats emitting positrons all the time and is supposed to be visible to naked eye/cameras/sensors. The amount of collision between positrons and electrons will destroy any such observers.
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I learned both in school at a young age, can even convert between in my head. Still use imperial as my main because it's more fun. The seething from Euros is an added bonus
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The only thing usa is doing good in spaceflight sucks china cock lmaooo
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>>13424958
Fahrenheit is more precise since it offers higher granulity. If desired, you can even decimalize the Fahrenheitoids
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>>13424965
ever heard of a Judas kiss?
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holy shit you monkeys STOP ARGUING ABOUT UNITS
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>>13424954
>Nasa never has and never will use metric.
https://www.space.com/3332-nasa-finally-metric.html
They realized their mistake, but they finally learned the right way. Hope the rest of US will follow soon.
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>>13424965
No Chinese people have ever travelled beyond LEO
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Defend this patriot bitches lol
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>Imperial
>in the modern age
might aswell use wooden carts and horses instead of cars
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>>13424974
Stop using the wrong units.
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>>13424965
I don't see any issue. Chinese infrastructure program completely dwarves US infrastructure program. Take their high speed rail infrastructure. In the same time period, California couldn't even build a 10 mile high speed rail. Its a complete joke. The commies use more concrete in 3 years to build out their infrastructure than the US has done in entire 20th century.
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>>13424985
You can’t convince Europeans to drop metric that easily. They seem comfy with the idea of dropping their pants for Muslims tho
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reminder that the degree and the radian are pleb tier and patricians use gradians
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>>13424983
you measure your cock in mm, i mesure in feet. beat that fagtard :)
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>>13424993
France is getting their population replaced with Muslims in the next decade years. Germany is gong the same route.
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>>13424991
There’s a HUGE asterisk next to all those chinese figures. They skimp on everything and artificially pump up their GDP with empty projects. Their space program is also pathetic
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>>13424983
Retarded comparison
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>>13424996
>foot fetish as well
disgusting
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>>13424991
That’s because California is diet China
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>>13424960
You suuuure? There’s only a few thousand atoms per centimeter in space, I think. I’m gonna try and figure out the math for how much energy would be released by antimatter-matter annihilation on the surface of a small moon, assuming the same interplanetary medium density as our solar system
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>>13423737
a logical starter to make good profit on
mars equipment is going to be fucking expensive since they'll need to tweak all of it to not get raped to death by dust
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>>13425006
How is it diet China? The actual commies built out 40000 km of high speed rail that connects their entire country in 10 fucking years. Meanwhile California can't even build the slowest fucking high speed rail in any meaningful way.

>BUT CALIFORNIA
There are no infrastructure plans like that anywhere in the US.
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>>13424993
>>13424997
Burgerland has negro riots, so it's not very different.
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>>13425000
Both are outdated and obsolete
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>>13425021
Stable population vs explosive population.
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>>13425011
It would be a ton. If your star is normal matter the solar wind would have eviscerated the antimatter long before it ever had a chance to accrete. Assuming you stumbled upon an antimatter moon in a PERFECT vacuum it would appear normal. But the second you tried to land on it—as SOON as your exhaust plume started making contact, it would turn into explodium
You would be able to stare at it just fine from a distance though. Photons would bounce off of the antimatter the same way they do normal matter (again assuming your star is also antimatter)
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>>13424088
they're called goyim for a reason, anon
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>>13425021
True; true, but America still has the power to conquer the stars, while Europe’s Faustian energies were exhausted long ago.
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>>13425029
Would you get raped by an antimatter star? As soon as you got near an antimatter system you would start getting bombarded by charged antiparticles. I don’t know what the flux of solar wind is like but I assume you would start hearing pings and pops, and pretty soon you’re whole ship would just an hero exponentially
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>>13425026
Imperial is not outdated or obsolete. Units of measurement have no substantial technological impact.
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>>13425043
I bet you’d see it as some fucked up gamma ray zone from where the solar wind slugs into the interstellar medium. Could use an artificial magnetic field for shielding, perhaps
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>>13425047
Oh that would be fucking COOL. I guess it’s futile to ask because even physicists don’t know: but why the hell is there a huge imbalance of “normal” matter versus antimatter in the universe? Like was matter just favored in the seconds/minutes after the big bang? Does this disparity not violate the rules of the universe i.e. it has to be isotopic or whatever?
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I want you to know that most of the times the thread gets fucked its me
You fags leaved me no choice i just plant the seed and enjoy the show
You don't deserve salvation fuck you /sfg/
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>>13425044
Units in imperial are based on non-concrete objects or ideas, such as miles, pounds, gallons and feet
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>>13425018
its easy to build 40000 km of rail when all of it is made of chinesium which will crumble within a year, they also have the advantage of not being jewed out of money because they're the ones doing the jewing most of the time
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>>13425029
>>13425043
theres a story about this by Niven
>>13424890
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>>13423703
This person should be in prison.
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>>13425060
So is metric.
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>>13425061
Chinesium runs 90% of all the smartphones in the world. Your tshirt is made of chinesium. You cars parts are chinesium. All of your electronics are chinesium.

If you're fine with using Chinesium whats the issue?
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>>13425057
There must be or must have previously existed mechanisms which favored the production of matter over antimatter, quite simply. Alternatively, there’s other Hubble volumes which are antimatter dominated, they’re just not visible to us. Physics is just Lovecraftian terror
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>>13425067
NASA’s fault for using metric desu
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in space you can have pizza with toppings/sauce on BOTH sides of the pie. Because microgravity.
Has this ability been investigated at all?
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>>13425097
You can't, because you can't handle the pizza without getting sauce on one side and becoming sloppy as fuck.
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>>13425067
Don't you fucking dare post spaceflight related stuff.
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>>13425071
All units in metric have Non-physical definitions
a kilo is defined using the planck constant
a meter the amount light moves in a vacuum divided by 299792458
and a second is:
>The second is defined as being equal to the time duration of 9,192,631,770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the fundamental unperturbed ground-state of the caesium-133 atom.[1][2]
Also imperial is officially defined using the metric system
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>>13425085
JPL used metric, Lockheed Martin used imperial
It was blamed on LM, hence they don't use imperial anymore
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>>13425099
You can handle it by the edge.
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Imperial units have no advantages over metric, almost every country in the world ditched them long ago. Americans still use them because they're unable to admit they were wrong, so they'll keep defending them against any logic and reason. And that's a fact.
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>>13424976
US can't switch to metric. Jews won't allow them.
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>>13425128
If imperial units gave no advantage then how come America is the best? Check mate retards.
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>>13425136
It's always them?
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América shills
China shills
Two niggers of the same coin
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>>13424976
No. NASA stopped using metric after metric killed 7 astronauts
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>>13425081
>Chinesium runs 90% of all the smartphones in the world. Your tshirt is made of chinesium. You cars parts are chinesium. All of your electronics are chinesium.
I buy American made clothes and drive an F-150, the most American vehicle by proportion. I will be buying a Librem 5 "made in the USA edition" phone when my current phone dies. I have several pieces of American made technology including old Unix workstations and a serial terminal. I was not even born or just a kid when the offshoring happened and vehemently disagree with it.

Fuck China.
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>>13425128
>Americans still use them because they're unable to admit they were wrong
I always thought it was because the amount of money and paperwork it would require to make the change nationwide was considered not worth the hassle
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>>13425183
Britbongs decided to do so, because in the long term not having to convert everything when doing some international business will pay off. The longer you wait, the more money you waste, and the more it will cost when you finally decide to switch.
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>>13425183
More or less this. Metric is used without issue in academic and commercial applications that actually benefit from it, but there’s zero value in switching for day to day life.
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>>13425181
American made clothes are Chinese made clothes rebranded.
F-150 runs on chinese made computer chips.
Librem 5 runs on chinese electronics.
Your old unix computer cannot run anything modern.
Offshoring happened because your parents were fucking hippies or hippie supporters.
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>>13425206
kys fifty center
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>>13422674
im ok with this being pro sis
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>>13425216
Thats not how 50 centers post. Commie posters are the retarded blind nationalist.
I'm simply black pilling you of the reality of how "chinesium" has infiltrated your entire being. I'm reminding you of how stagnant western civilization has become. Its by design and not an accident. Its because your parents pushed their moral decisions to your kids. Its because you're living in denial of the reality that your parents created for you.
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>>13425216
>>13425219
And your parents aren't evil for doing so. They simply took short cuts to give you the comfy life you wanted. That comfy life has a price that you're paying now.
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>>13425219
>denial when called out
>CCP propaganda line
>poor English
Oh, sorry, $1, not $0.50.
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>>13425181
Go look up Peter Zeihan
he gives a wonderful showing of what awaits the bugmen, and the rest of the world, in the near future
and I quote
>I don't see China as a functional nation state within the next decade
his domestic politics takes leave much to be desired though
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>>13425099
This is actually fun to think about. There might be whole realms of cuisine opened up by microgravity, not to mention solar ovens and possibly vacuum treatment. Someone should sponsor a research chef to fly into orbit.
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>>13425163
I don't want to post this again
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OOOHH SAY, CAN YOU SEEE??? BY THE DAWN'S EARLY LIIIIIIIIIIIGHT??????
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ok so how much mass was saved by shrinking flaps? 1 ton?
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>>13425252
Texas singlehandedly has a better space program than the rest of the US now lol
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>>13425257
in imperial tons pls
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