So Perseverence has finally landed on Mars on the 18th. There has been a lot of talk about it's updated cameras, sensors, and microphones, which are supposed to give us not only stunning videos in high def, but also sounds of Martian surface. It's been two days since the landing, so where the FUCK are the videos and sounds? What are they hiding bros?
>>12736454>It's been two days since the landing, so where the FUCK are the videos and sounds?On the rovers SSD, slowing getting uploaded a little more every time the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter has LOS to the rover and then sent to Earth when MRO has LOS to Earth.They made the mistake of hyping the audio and video to people that don't understand how shit internet on Mars is.
I know it's not really for science but fuck how cool would it have been to record in VR so I can ride on it's back while it does it's stuff
>>12736522>Shit internet on marsBetter than what half the shit rural Americans for their easy $295/month cable/phone/internet packages.
We'll get the cool stuff in a week to a month, for now, we get the hazard camera.
>>12736522Very interesting. I thought with the modern tech they would be able to compress the video and sound data and send it in massive amounts in a short burst. The more you know..>>12736570For sure! I played around with Daydream and I remember a video where someone compiled a ton of Curiosity and/or Opportunity photos and made a static VR Martian environment panorama in several spots on Mars. Even then I was completely in awe.>>12736586Yeah the grainy images are better than none for sure.
>>12736581Who pays $295 for internet in the US? The most I've heard of is maybe $150 tops. Starlink is supposed to be about that much.
>>12736454Just open up nasa's website and read why, you conspiracy faggot. Monday 2pm ET, press conference and video reveal. What are they hiding? Nothing, maybe document yourself about how narrow the bandwidth is when sending shit from such a distance to avoid errors. That video of a few MB needs days to be sent, received and processed.
>>12736586Instead of talking out your ass and throwing dates around, maybe just read what nasa said? Video reveal: 2PM ET, Monday.
>>12737013Awesome, thanks for the heads up man!
>>12739105Those are the only colored/HD pictures from the mission we have as of right now, afaik.
>>12739097>>12739101>>12739105Awesome, thanks! Those seem to be much better quality than what I've been finding. Are these from the NASA website?>>12739107Zoom in part reminds me of the pale blue dot.
>>12736454>It's been two days since the landing, so where the FUCK are the videos and sounds? What are they hiding bros?They're busy doing actually important shit and tripple checking everything according to the procedures.
>>12736454>It's been two days since the landing, so where the FUCK are the videos and sounds? What are they hiding bros?You don`t understand the speed boomers at NASA that work from 8 to 4 and have frecuent lunch, coffee breaks and feel good meetings move.Is very slow.
>>12739153How do they even deal with the dust shit?
>>12736607133MHz and 128MB of ram isn't much to do video compression with. they do have some form of image compression however
>>12739342Very tight tolerances.
>>12736607Inverse square law means radio signals get weaker with distance, and Mars is quite a distance away. The rover and MRO have limited power to transmit a signal with, so bandwidth is limited no matter what.Whenever we start colonizing the place we can set up larger and more powerful transmitters to get more bandwidth. Though it will never be super amazing.
>>12736454don't tell anyone else, but some joker made it so that the first sound that got sent back was BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPP! Fucker was a clever bastard too, the BRAAAAPPP-generator code was extremely small, just a single line, which is how it got through code review. They also tuned the BRAAAAPs! so they compressed well and took minimum bandwidth
>>12739581Higher frequencies don't disperse as much. Lasers work great for this and have been demonstrated as far as lunar orbit. X-ray comms are being tested on the ISS too. Higher frequency stuff is harder to aim.
>>12739581>>12739614It's pretty amazing that we're still getting constant telemetry from both Voyagers. I've only recently learned that they are both still alive and it blew my mind, considering that the original Star Trek movie based on it feels ancient and it was made a few years after the launch.>>12739378So why are they using 90's era tech? I mean I now it takes years to get approval and to go through the paper trail while tech is advancing, as was the case with the previous rovers, but even if Perseverence was based on circa 2010 tech, you would think that it would have more brains than a 1995 PC.
>>12739603If I ever meet a brap fag on the voyage to Mars I'm tossing him out the nearest airlock.
>>12740612The worst part is the brap meme used to not even be about farting.
>>12740597the components have to be highly reliable and resistant to extreme temperatures and radiation, this offen comes at the cost of performance. the rtg also only produces like 110W at its best which is less than most desktop computers
>>12740628Surprise, a desert shithole is a desert shithole. Reject failed low budget Tatooine, strip mine the Moon and some asteroid to build space mansions.
Technology should research about moving Enceladus to hit Mars.
>>12736454Is it true it runs on nuclear engine ? those one with spikes/fins like in KSP
>>12741130Yes, although I wouldn't call it a an engine.https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/spacecraft/rover/electrical-power/#:~:text=Perseverance%20carries%20a%20radioisotope%20power%20system.&text=The%20power%20source%20is%20called,decay%20of%20plutonium%20into%20electricity.
>>12740612That is a rational response.
"The Red Planet" a lot more brown than I expected now that I'm getting to see HD footage. Anyone else surprised by this?
>>12742418>"The Red Planet" a lot more brown than I expected now that I'm getting to see HD footage. Anyone else surprised by this?Not really. Also, they have a 360° panorama and 4k video of EDL on youtube now.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE-aQO9XD1ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4czjS9h4Fpg
>>12736454Too fucking slow. We need to send these eggheads next time. If they so smart, they will figure out how to survive. Who the fuck spends billions on a snail atv and copter worse than 500$ cheap chink drone?
thanks for making a dedicated threadlet's go
>>12740925based and O'Neill pilled
>>12742470ah yes, light rocks dark rocks and holey rocks
JPL posted a bunch of clipshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5lyA6FQArwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJNBcyWsARghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3MF9ZsaQ2Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEBhcAJ4IDQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU8TJF-OsoQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9LrnAeBY74
the audio recording from the rover:https://voca.ro/1fLr4T5tbQp7
this is such a fucking waste of money kill yourself if you "enjoy" this
they showed this landing montage at the press conference.
>>12742572How about I kill you instead npc
>>12742572Your life is a waste of money.
>>12742572yEaH, We NeEd tO bE pAyIng repARaTiOns InSteAD!!PaY uP!!
>A wild /b/tard appeard!>The /b/tard uses Bait!>It is super effective!Stop feeding him, retards.
>Fly to mars<find rocks/sci/ cheers
What the fuk is this in the front ?Are the wires cut on the right ?
>>12742662Yes, the wires are cut. That was the descent databus and the skycrane carriage lines.
>>12742662>>12742670The doodads are camera calibration targets.
How much bandwidth would you need to stream the landing live (with the 8 minutes delay)?
>>12741130Nuclear isotopes generate radiation.Radiation converted into heat energy.Heat flux gets turned into electricity via magic (seebeck effect).
>>12742700They said they had somewhere around 30GB of footage from the landing so you could probably work it out from that.
>>12742739that makes 64 MB/s if my calculations are correct
>>12742572I'd rather pay 90% of tax in every single transaction I make and have this rather than pay 1% and it going straight into your pockets, Tyrone.
>>12742719Surely it wouldn't be difficulty to send a satellite with 14/mbs to mars.
>>12742544in the first video it gets all dusty? is that the booster/rocket creating that dust as it touches down?
>>12742544are these the first close up videos of mars surface?
>>12742766Yes. You can get a better idea of what is going on here where they sync up the videos.https://youtu.be/4czjS9h4Fpg?t=162
>>12742662the sky crane had pyrotechnical blades on that position to physically cut the connection to the rover.
>>12742662the stuff on the front are color calibration charts, also used in regular photography, a grey card to adjust the white balance, and a rgb table.
>>12742662Excuse me that's not in relation with what you asked butWHAT IS THATWHAT THE FUCK IS THATDID THEY HOTGLUE THE COVER
>>12742842Looks like epoxy
>>12742842well, yeah. its 5 million dollars worth of nasa hot snot. i guess its some sort of epoxy though, hot snot might get brittle in that cold. this does not look to be meant to hold there forever, just capton tape to cover that place as long its traveling to mars. sooner or later this might just come off, no need to use super adhesives for that.
>>12742837Won't those colours degrade fairly quickly? There isn't a protective magnetosphere on mars to stop solar radiation getting at it.
>>12742544I can already see the over 9000 objections brainlets will have.
>>12742842WHERE IS THE DUST, oh right there, nvm
>>12742900you can uv stabilize colors
>>12742925>>12742900yeah, if you roughly know the deterioration rate you can compensate
>>12742933Gimmie martian fish fossils!
>>12742632>A wild /b/tard appeard!Think you need to be a bit more specific..
>>12742941Fucking hell, are those the boosters on the skycrane we see?
>>12743101My backup keyboard is gently hinting that it needs maintenance and that it would be really swell to have the main back. Or are you not referring to the typo?
wow. It's brown rocks!
Why does Mars sound like a bass rip?
>>12742739thought the rover only had 2GB of storage, does every camera have its own storage?
>>12743111Nah, referring to the /b/tard, cant seem to spot him. Then again, its been a long day
>>12743135No idea. I was just going by the info they gave out on the live stream.https://youtu.be/gYQwuYZbA6o?t=567
>>12740636Yes that's the worst part
>>12743141i think the mro has more memory, it might have had line of sight for the landing, recording from the upstream to send it to earth later
>>12742445Based and 'Muricapilled
>>12742544>>12742565>>12742607This shit is so obviously fake. We're being KIKED again fuck (((them)))
>>12736581Not anymore thanks to Starlink150 down, 300 down next year, <50ms ping for $100/month no data caps.
>>12743101he announced his own arrival.
>NASA tries to justify its billion budget>can only come up with a dried up planet>shill this mars crap for decades>all the drones support those bureaucrats spending tax payer money on a pile of dustI love how atheists are still upset by having not found a luxurious planet like Earth so they try to cope with hyping a crappy planetthe atheist republic is a huge mistake
>>12744559>>12743799Who hurt you, anon? Do you need a hug?
>>12744559Nice bait I’m Catholic and I want to die on Mars one day
>>12742494>>12742470Thank you. Rocks make my cock hard.
>>12742842It's a solar dial, retard.
>>12736454How did they decoupled the shield and links to the descending stage ? what's the mechanical part used and hot does it work ?
>>12744839I have no idea for sure, but I'm guessing it was some kind of exploding bolt.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZpa64pn9Js
>>12742470So is this how really Mars looks?A brown desert under a grey sky with a pale sun?
>>12739101>>12742470Considering the atmosphere is so thin.How do we get an Earth-style amount of atmospheric effect (mountains in the distance looking bright.)I would have expected things to look a lot clearer with only 1% of air in the way.
>>12742572>this is such a fucking waste of money kill yourself if you "enjoy" thisNetflix is a waste of money Mars rovers arn't
>>12740597If you have a component which does it's job and has a proven record of 40 years functioning correctly, would you change it for some extra capacity that's not necessary in a mission where any failure can cause instant loss of billions of dollars of effort?
>>12745267Its mars dust in the atmosphere
>>12743799smooth brains should leave
>>12736607They’re probably using lossless compression in order to ensure they don’t have to worry about image artifacts.
>>12739321Does the procedure really say they need to triple check everything or did you just make that up?
>>12739562>Very tight tolerances.Mars is no place for your mother then
>>12742739>30GBThat includes all cameras constantly recording from whenever the T-0 was to get video. Iirc, there were 5 cameras they successfully pulled video from. A 6th camera failed, but it was redundant.Not sure if all the cameras were the same quality, I know the parachute cameras were 75 fps.
>>12742831>pyrotechnical bladesInteresting, got any links to more info on the mechanism that did the cutting?
>>12742900Mars is also a lot further away from the sun, so the rays are much more weak by the time they get there.
>>12743108>Fucking hell, are those the boosters on the skycrane we see?The white dot on the left side of the photo, just above the midline is the parachute (maybe heat shield, I forget exactly). Directly to the right of it is a smudged looking black spot, that's what's left of the skycrane.
>>12740597>So why are they using 90's era tech?That's only for a small part of the rover that handles data storage and transmission, plus kinda being the center of all the components to talk to each other. The more in-depth and hardcore processing for the various tools on board are done by much more modern fpgas and other various logic controllers. No need for a high power PC if all it does is hand out orders and mainly monitor stuff.
broken wheel ?
>>12745960Yes. Curiosity's wheels were structurally deficient, and were seriously damaged by rocks. Perseverance's are much more robust.
>>12745960thats a curiosity-wheel, isnt it?
>>12742607These recordings give me a strong '80s vibe. The color palette and slight image disortion... It looks like VHS a bit, 4k but VHS.
>>12746011They said something was wrong with the heat shield in your pic related, but I didn't quite get what it was?
>>12736454>What are they hiding bros?The aliens have already flipped it and started harvesting it for scrap metals. Bloody Romanian Alien fuckers.
>>12745960yet curiosity still did its job quite well, right?
>>12746011also nice complementary colors shot
>>12739097>>12739101>>12739105>>12739153>>12742470How can anyone look a this and say "yes, this is 100% real, totally not CGI"? wtf
>>12746312One of the bolts didn't fire correctly when the heat shield separated. It came up during the press conference but I still can't see it.
>>12746842By not being a paint-huffing retard?
>>12746863Damn, that sounds like it could have wrecked the whole mission as the shield could have been stuck? How did it come loose anyway, did the weight of the shield break off the one remaining bolt?
>>12746312He said one spring popped out and was at the 4oclock position. If you look at the edge slot just above it its missing the spring. I think that's what he meant. https://youtu.be/vH0vDqEEBSY?t=1161
>>12747185Ah now I understand. That spring was supposed to be at the outer edge at 15:30. I guess it did the job it was supposed to and then came loose
>>12746842My eyes work?
>>12746842Shoo Schizo, back to /pol.
Can't wait until it captures its first sand storm experience lads
>>12742941what is the scale here? are those 2 craters only 15m wide or so?
>>12747931Stop sending /x/tards to /pol/
>12750192>12750204That's Curiosity, not Perseverance.
>>12748098They are about 1.5km apart.
A lot of cameras, and no microscope ?
>>12750900On the robotic arm is a spectrometer and a microscope
>>127452671. dust2. it's thin but its not nearly as thin as the trace atmosphere of the moon where gargantuan mountains look like a small hill
>>12745960Have a look at them rocks, curiosity is sighting the most promising shit so far just when nearing its inevitable end. The rover will leave behind some substancial science even when it had extended its mission way beyond life-span expectations.
>>12745267>>12751001the martian atmosphere may be thicker than previously though, but nasa might be covering that up aswell releasing the obsolete data to the public. It def looks thicker than 0.01 atm, could be actually something like 0.1 atm or so
>>12751950Why the fuck would they cover up the thickness of the Martian atmosphere? What the fuck would they even have to gain? Try thinking before you spew retarded horseshit
>>12751960>Why the fuck would they cover up the thickness of the Martian atmosphere? What the fuck would they even have to gain?What if the pressure has been going up because the sun has been causing global warming for the last 25 or 30 years on Mars
>>12746842I have fantastic eye sight and no major underlying mental health conditions.
>>12751960To deny the chance of triple-point of water in current martian climate from a physical stand point, so they can come up with whatever the fuck they want and make you believe in it, and cover up the current pools of liquid water on the planet's surface. But now that China joined the party, USrael will have to reveal the truth sooner than later.
>>12742842>those phrases and images on the calibration padTotal a calibration tool, definitely not an ayyy lmao hello message.
>>12743075kek I wish
If you cum on mars would it feel different than cumming on Earth? asking for a friend
>>12752032you cum boiling loads with a frozen erect dick
Where did the sky crane go after delivering the rover?Did it fly off to land somewhere else?
>>12751999>Global warming caused by the sun, not lifted trucks with truck ballsHow will the green cucks ever recover?
>>12745885Alright, so it's compartmentalized, but still doesn't explain why they didn't use the latest transmission equipment with the highest bandwidth.