"Auugghh..."You awaken from the calm, quiet darkness of a suspension pod. Your race, the Jaxtian species of primates, has adapted alien genes to allow you to enter long periods of suspended metabolism; all to make long distance journeys through space easy. You are currently on a HCDFV class starship- capable of traveling faster then light.Your name is captain Allsals Duj. You were on a four month mission; four light years, all to reach the new colony in the Xin system. Your ship has important cargo and personal requesting transfer for the new system management- some under direct order from the Supreme Ruler himself.But why did the ship's AI wake you up now?"Alavis- report. What date is it? Is it time for the Day of Obedience already? Are we going to be doing the pledge?""No, captain. I have woken up you up because of the alien onboard this ship."
“W-what?! Repeat!”“Your presence is required for dealing with the alien on board this vessel. There are no xenodiplomats in the ledger, and you are the highest ranking individual here, hence, you were awoken.”“Wait! Alien? How is there an ALIEN?! This ship is traveling at hyperspeed through hyperspace! There's no way for anyone to even communicate with this ship on its journey anyway- how did an alien get onboard? What species!? Unlock the armory and isolate the alien in its own bulkhead-”“I cannot do that. The alien is within the same bulkhead as the suspension pods. Species unknown. Quarantine will be held if the ship manages to come down from Hyperspace while on autopilot. If you can restore order, the pilot can be reawoken at the correct time...”In the same... same bulkhead? The same bulkhead as you? Oh fuck. It's in here with you. Okay, don't panic. What do you do? There's no way to call for help, and you have no weapons. You are the captain of this ship, protocols have prepared you for almost anything- mutiny, hull breach, infectious disease... but not this!You hear a wet sound and whirl around in panic. You see a massive toothy maw belonging to some giant, wriggling primordial biped of a worm. It's glossy black lips part and pull back to reveal its bright yellow gums- it hisses at you- a warning gesture, an aggressive threat...No, that's not it. You've fallen to the floor during this. It's sucking air onto its tongue, through its teeth. It's tasting you. It's huge tongue is licking your pheromones and sweat condensed in the sterile air of a starcrusier. You're just now realizing it doesn't have any eyes. The sightless creature closes its mouth, its horrible head and neck extending forward towards you.“Go gal. Go galla gol?”“T-Translation?” You weakly say to the ship's AI. Clearly, it's talking.“Translation file incomplete. Lacking ability to reverse-engineer language from species biology. Closest translation- “End light, heat light, end heat-light? Can I stop light-heat?””“Go gal. Go galla gol?”>Run away>Say nothing and try to relax
>>5120726>Say nothing and try to relaxWe're fucked.
>>5120726>Say nothing and try to relaxIf it wanted to kill us it would have already did.
>>5120732What this man said, it's trying to say something. I think he wants us to turn off the light?
>>5120726>Say nothing and try to relax
>>5120726>>Run awayGet the lasers
>>5120726>Say nothing and try to relaxMaybe we can beckon it, guiding it over to a nice, cool, dark bulkhead... Where we can isolate it?
>>5120726>"Alavis, lower lights by 50%!"
>>5120726>Say nothing and try to relaxAyy it's back.
>>5120726Strike at it while it’s weak!
>>5121033>start the new thread with a diplomatic incidentPorque?
>>5120879Supporting this. Also trying to keep calm.
>Try to stablish communation. Offer food. Ask identity
“Ooh! Ooh. Okay, haha. Wow, I was worried. Alavis, turn the lights and heat down in the spaceship. Maybe adjust the gravity a bit too for our guest.”You are the captain aboard this ship, but at the current moment you are the best representative to meet with an alien race for the first time. You should try to make a good first impression! This alien is basically your guest. Just relax.“Do you understand?” You ask the worm. “I'm turning down the light. Light out. Heat-light out. Tun out the light-”
Your name is now Agori Falathane and you are the Supreme Ruler of the Jaxtian people. As the Supreme Ruler, you are the benevolent dictator that leads and commands your people- the Supreme Ruler that will bring victory and conquest again and again- the Hegemony will live forever! Even though you won't... but that's not what you're focused on today.It has been almost twenty years since the construction of the colony on Xin- the first interstellar space colony. Your people have already fully colonized your own star system, but Xin is unique due to its closeness to a habitable planet. Your technology allows you to communicate faster then light- as well as send ships of colonists and supplies. As of right now, the Xin system is an unspecalized colony, though it acts mostly independently, and exports nothing back to your homeworld, you hope this investment will blossom in the far future.https://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/2021/5053823/Several other developments during this time have also come around. Both involve the alien technology recovered from Kimnan's... expedition. The first involves the starmap. The useful starmap that let you see all the stars in your local cluster which is only a few thousand years out of date was apparently created by the Andoens from watching and tracking the movements of the space whales. It seems they are capable of traveling between stars and star clusters. These migratory whales are the largest and most exotic form of life ever discovered by your own species- you've never been able to make contact yet, if they're even intelligent.The second is the developments learned from the Andoen alien's wireless technology. It was totally unknown how such devices could share energy and data without any connection, until it was discovered that some quarks within the objects “spin” in tandem with another. This phenomenon known as quantum entanglement has never been seriously studied, but now opens the door to new developments down the line.
You are approached by Ingar, your right hand man for technology and computer science. You were both once candidates to become the Supreme Ruler, though you managed to be chosen over him, he's still a highly valuable member of the Hegemony.Ingar has told you that some new simulation models for Xin-I show promise in colonizing the planet further. Xin-I is currently a barren rocky planet with a similar temperature gradient to Jaxt- your homeworld. However, it has no vegetation. The pink bacteria, released over a century ago to multiply in Xin's oceans, has created a large nutrient and biomass base, but the planet still lacks the atmospheric pressure, oxygen level, and biosphere for true habitation. But that's only true for Jaxtians...It's the Haazar. He explains that his models show that Haazar, both pure Haazar and Blue Haazar (Jaxtian-Haazar hybrids) can actually already survive on the planet's surface now with no oxygen tanks, no suit, nothing. Their partial insectoid biology means they can breathe through their skin and survive harsher conditions then your mammalian Jaxtian biology.While the Haazar are your vassals and separated from the mainline Jaxtians for good reasons, it would be incredibly beneficial to have beings who could perform field work and live on a planet without needing a habitat or suits. The Haazar could really help jumpstart the colonization process; not to mention the potential profits of taxes and labor depending on how many Haazar you actually allow to colonize it. And after all.... there's no reason they have to stay there forever. Once the planet is livable for Jaxtians, those Haazar can just be banished back to their habitat in the asteroid belt, or perhaps make their own new habitat in Xin's asteroid system... they are second class Xenos after all. It would be another Supreme Ruler who deals with the fallout of that choice.What's your plan, Supreme One? Do we capitalize on our opportunity as a trans-species empire?>Allow Haazar to immigrate to Xin-I>Have loyal, low-ranking Jaxtians implanted with Haazar and send only loyal blue Haazar to Xin-I>Do not allow Haazar to inhabit your new planet; focus on terraforming instead>Other (Write In)
>>5121557>Have loyal, low-ranking Jaxtians implanted with Haazar and send only loyal blue Haazar to Xin-IWe can always sterilize them once the planet is terraformed.
>>5121557>Have loyal, low-ranking Jaxtians implanted with Haazar and send only loyal blue Haazar to Xin-IBluey is good proof-of-concept.
>>5121557>>Have loyal, low-ranking Jaxtians implanted with Haazar and send only loyal blue Haazar to Xin-IAww man, we got ate
>>5121584It was worth a go. I'm just sad we didn't lure the xeno into a bulkhead to isolate prior to turning down the lights. Could have saved our crew.
>>5121557>Have loyal, low-ranking Jaxtians implanted with Haazar and send only loyal blue Haazar to Xin-IRIP random Captain, also quick note he was heading to this colony we are voting on right now, so we're gonna have to deal with a hostile alien here soon.
>>5121570Also, adding to this:>>5121557>Make them wear clothes.
Sorry, Captain Duj. We had been taught to believe in the power of friendship.
You have decided to send Blue Haazar to Xin-I to help with the colonization program.While Bluey may have just been a fluke, as he is the one and only Blue Haazar, his higher rates of empathy for others and patriotism for the Hegemony show that the Haazar can be made into proper citizens- but you have yet to see exactly how much nurture or nature will be required here.Volunteers for the program are noticeably scarce- at least on the Jaxtian side. The Haazar have no shortage of volunteers for implanting- your computer network even shows an undercurrent of some sort of fetishistic sense of revenge or justice at implanting Jaxtians- as though the Haazar on the ship are getting back at their oppressors. While anti-social beliefs like that are usually called, you allow it to fester a bit to better speed up the process of finding suitable genetic donors.While there aren't too many Jaxtians to carry the Haazar embryos- at least each one can be implanted multiple times. Soon enough, you will have young blue Haazar living on Xin.However, in the meantime, something much more important has just happened. On a routine resupply voyage to Xin-I, a ship had been boarded by an unknown alien. While in hyperspace, the AI core could not communicate with the homeworld, but as soon as the journey ended it sent out a distress and quarantine call. This alien was also known to be dangerous, as it had killed and consumed the captain aboard the voyage when he attempted first contact. The alien had also grown quite a bit larger after its meal. It is unknown if it has the ability to suspend itself in animation, or if its... meal was enough to sustain it for the months left in the hyperspace voyage.It is not known how the alien managed to get aboard a ship in hyperspace. However, the creature is not hostile anymore, is intelligent, and even assisted the Alavis core aboard the ship in translating the rest of its language- pointing to various objects on the ship and naming them. Such actions show that this creature is cooperative. Once the ship is scanned and checked for possible bioweapons- the worm alien is taken into captivity on Xin-I and the rest of the crew is awoken with no ill effect.
You, as the Supreme Ruler, remain on Jaxt, but with FTL communication you are kept up to date on everything. The alien is scanned by medical technology and studied through and through, and security protocols include armed guards and plasmatronic-locked cells.The alien is notable for its very basic biology. It is essentially a huge walking worm, or perhaps a pyrosome- its body is essentially just a tube for nutrients to pass through. It has a basic muscular structure, organs for filtering blood, no bones, and sharp claws and talons made of keratin. It has no eyes- but the most prominent feature is its lack of one critical organ.It doesn't have a brain.
While a simple creature may not technically need a central nervous system, the fact this creature is intelligent and has language, knowledge, and memory indicates that it should have some form of biological computer system- it just seems totally absent. This could only mean this creature's intelligent is somehow from another organ you can't identify as a brain or is held 'elsewhere'.“Why did you make me walk out in the sun? Please don't do that. It hurt me. I'm lucky- if I was any bigger, that sunlight would have killed me.”The creature's complaints fall mostly on deaf ears- your guards have strict orders not to say anything, in case it “triggers” the creature to attack- the same as happened for the captain. You arrange a real time conference- it is time to make first contact. You introduce yourself as the Supreme Ruler, and the creature gives a bow.“Ahh! Jaaxtians! We've heard so much about you in the in-between. I am one of the Aannel, first of the peoples. It is an honor to meet your Supremacy in person- well, as close to person as we can get in this vast, empty physical universe.””Why did you attack and kill the captain aboard my vessel?”“Hmm? You are a eusocial species, yes? I would not be offended if you destroyed one of my larvals- there are billions of you- though I understand our cultures may not be equivalent, I do apologize- though I had no other options for sustenance aboard your star ship. I can assure you, no more Jaaxtians will be eaten, as long as I am given enough food and proper living accommodations.””Given accommodations?”“Yes, I am to act as your liaison between our great-and-one-greater races, yes? We Aannel are like the glue that holds our galaxy together- every intelligent lifeform will meet us eventually!”---Game Note---You can ask the worm any question, or make another request. You can do this in addition on voting to kill the Aannel. The first seven posts will be used- majority will rule on executing the creature. (Four or more)>Ask a Question (Write In)>Make a demand (Write In)>Kill the worm (counts as 1 vote towards)
>>5121838>Ask a Question (Write In)"Are you aware that Allsals Duj was a well-respected adult of the Jaxtian species?"
>>5121838Ask how big their empire is and what kind of technology they have. Don't want to pick a fight with someone you can't beat.
>i miss one update and people are already making a colony with an entirely different racefucking hellWell, i'm certain that'll end with no consequences whatsoever.
>>5121838>"What foods do you require? Jaxtian vessels hold foodstuffs for the crew; so which Jaxtian foods did you try and find unpalatable giving you 'no other option' before you disrespectfully ate our valued captain?"
>>5121842>>5121863Supporting both these questions.>>5121838That said... We aren't individualists, and these Aannel seem pretty dangerous to start a war with, at least yet. I strongly vote AGAINST killing it yet.
>>5121838>>Kill the worm (counts as 1 vote towards)
I HATE XENOS SO MUCH REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>5121898Every xenos we've met so far has been horrible, but for some reason peopel still want to give them power in our society.
>>5121902Xeno lovers are worse than xenos themselves. They will destroy the Hegemony and then the Jaxtian race.
>>5121842>>5121863+1>>5121906It's less love than killing a representative of a spacefaring race without knowing more not being very wise, xenos seem more weird than really evil.
>>5121842>>5121863+1 to both these questions, also for now let's not kill the xenos even though I really want to.
>>5121842>>5121863+1 I HATE XENOS I HATE XENOS I HATE XENOS I HATE XENOS I HATE XENOS I HATE XENOS
>>5121916>bro we're not evil, we've just tried to trick you, genocide you and eat your peopleLiterally the only xenos that haven't been bad in someway are the migrators, and they're barely even xenos since they're from our home system.
>>5121951 And those guys are only awake for like, what, a few hours before slipping back into a coma?
>>5121842>>5121863+1Suffer not the xeno to live
Currently, three of seven possible questions have been asked, belonging to these three IDs;>>5121842>>5121856>>5121863This leaves four questions left that the alien will answer in the next update. Voting multiple times for the same question did not count as your question, and those posters may still make new votes. This was so everyone can ask their own questions instead of voting on the first/most popular ones.
>>5122042>"How were you able to board our ship while it was in hyperspace?"
>>5122042Oh, in that case, why not just pry it about the lack of a brain?>"Hey, so where exactly do you keep your intelligence? A specific organ or?" I mean, we know where our intelligence is. Surely it must.
>>5122042"Hypothetically, if I were to execute you as a proportionate response to the death of our pilot, how would your race respond?"
>>5122055We can be a bit more subtle than that. I don't think it'll like a thinly veiled threat>"How would your race respond if you were killed on this planet? You did say the sun could've killed you, which we were not aware of."
How can you percieve distant objects with no eyes?How does your unique biology allow sapience?
>>5122116We'll fold that into "where do you keep your intelligence" for now. The players have one more question.Update will be tomorrow, sorry to say.
>>5122061A smart play if we want to be subtle... But I don't. This is Aogiri, after all. He's MAXIMUM ALPHA, and this xeno ate a member of his tribe, such as it is. We should ask them your question AND my question, I think. Establish dominance, make our rule of law clear.
>>5121838>Ask a Question "What IS your interest in us?"
>>5122152You know what, it's been a while, kinda forgot this IS the supreme leader who foamed at the mouth when someone threatened his people. Fair enough. The semantics don't matter much to me, I am way more interested in it's biology than worrying about how to be nice to it anyways. It is basically, like, a giant worm thing.
>>5122152*AgoriToo much Tokyo Ghoul for me, I guess.
>>5121838>Kill the worm (counts as 1 vote towards)KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL
>>5121838>Are there ways to contact your civilization? Does your society have a leader?The plan is to get in contact with a higher authority, and see if we can talk that way. But also see if we can officialize the execution of the 'ambassador' worm, just so we make it clear that we value the law over here. Any other ambassadors they want to send here are welcomed, as long as they do not eat or harm the Hegemony's citizens, Jaxtian and Haazari both.
>>5122047"Where exactly does your species process information, biologically? Our technicians failed to find any sort of nervous system or a method of sight-"The worm shrugs. "That's just how we are. The Aannel are the first and eldest of all races- one could say we are beyond such rudimentary systems.">>5122045"How were you able to board our ship while it was in hyperspace?""That is simple; I had spent some time in my larval stage, being fed from my mother, until I had the strength to leave her womb. From there, I went to the in-between, until I found your ship and entered.">>5121856"You said you belong to the Aannel; a great race that "glues the galaxy" together- do you control a large amount of space in this galaxy? Are you technological dominant- above our own level of development?""Certainly- we have almost unlimited access to technology. As for our range- well, practically the entire galaxy! We do not control a single region of space, and we have access to technology- of others. We are advisors, diplomats, and organizers. Every significant Faster-Than-Light species will have encountered us; and through us opens opportunities for reliable intergalactic trade, treaties, and meaningful diplomacy between radically different, and sometimes asymmetrical space nations- after all, a nation of your level of technology would be quite vulnerable to greater ones- we can help protect your population and precious life bearing planets against that all powerful void. Just something to consider.~"That still didn't explain how this creature physically entered the ship. It could be some kind of abstract metaphor you can't understand- or a lie. One of your aides also whispers in your ear- this worm is sexless, as far as you can understand. Important to note for later.>>5121842"...You speak of saving lives, after ending one of our own. Captain Allsals was a valued and respected man. He had a family.""As I already explained- your captain is insignificant in the grand scheme of galactic politics. My physical form is more significant, wouldn't you agree? You Jaaxtians of all people should understand that-""ENOUGH! That ship contained plenty of dried foodstuffs- that you were "hungry" is not an excuse!"
>>5121863"My people can only consume living things. We are obligate carnivores, yes, but only cells which have not yet experienced cell death can be processed by our bodies. With no forms of livestock aboard the ship, I had to make due. My predatory instincts only further heightened this; I already apologized and can promise you that this will not happen again- to a Jaaxtian. Besides, it helps for us to get to know you better. Our guts are the most sensitive parts of our bodies.">>5122055"This great... Aannel race, how would they respond to your death? You mentioned that you could have been killed by the sun by accident. Or, perhaps, our justified retaliation against the murder of our pilot.""Oh, well, if you did that- you would bring the ire of the intergalactic community against you! I told you we are within every interstellar society of note. Our species is the eldest of all- connected and embedded. I would hate to "pull rank" against you- but we are simply more important. Over billions of years of life in this galaxy, yours is but a speck in the grand scheme of things. However, such posturing is totally pointless- I'd much rather help you then argue!">>5122154"...What exactly IS your interest in us? To be an advisor? What do you want?""As I mentioned before- in exchange for my accommodations and a position in your society, I will be your advocate and representative in the intergalactic stage! Of course, if you kill me, or refuse, you'll have lost your biggest voice to vouch for you in interstellar politics- and everyone out there will know you did it for... what? The life of a nobody captain? Why are you so focused on that. Absurd. You know better then that, Supreme Ruler."This worm seems more bold by the minute. While he speech seems callous, almost condescending towards you and your office, there is a truth you cannot deny. To be thrust out into the galaxy as you expand and deal with more races and species without an advocate, especially one who seems as well connected as this, would be very foolish indeed. Logically, you know there is no reason to get so caught up over the murder of one of your own- this being could return Allsals worth thousands of times over, but it is just the principle of the thing...It makes you angry. Really angry. You feel like punching something. But it's time for reason to overtake your emotional perceptions. Should you accept its proposal?>Accept>Decline
>>5123266At worsr he's a conman that will waste make us some live animals and the accomodations for a diplomat.At worst, he's saying the truth.>Accept
>>5123266>DeclineDEATH TO SNEKS DEATH TO SNEKS DEATH TO SNEKS DEATH TO SNEKS
>>5123266Can we get a different member of his species to do it?We can accept aid from his species as a whole but hidden resentment towards one who ate a Jaxtian might hurt us long term.
>>5123266Agreeing with this dude >>5123272 Allsals might be a nobody to the worm, but he's our nobody! Send another ambassador if need be, but this worm is sentenced to death.
Feel like we can't really decline, sadly.
>>5123266>>Decline for nowOur representative on the intergalactic stage cannot be an alien predator of uncertain motivations. Even if this creature is somehow telling the truth we'd still want one of our own to speak for our people.If it wants to stay on as an advisor we'd consider that, but we can't simply hand over the entirety of any diplomatic position we might hold without at least knowing the pre-existing relationships this culture has with all the others we've yet to meet - we don't want to find out that their first words will be 'You work with THOSE things? Charge the chronoton disintegrators!"
>>5123266>Ask for proof of this worm's importance>Accept, if it exists>Decline and execute it otherwise
>>5123266>Hesitantly accept through gritted teeth. >Find something suitable to punch after the fact.
>>5123362Yes, let's demand proof.
>>5123362+1 to this we need proof of this shit.
>>5123362Yeah, we definitely need proof first. If this Alien has the type of influence it claims its species hold with 'unlimited' access to technology, why this first contact not taking place with the Aannel stepping from a shiny star-cruiser of superior design with sycophants from all the other interstellar societies all telling of the great works the Aannel have done with themInstead we get a random stowaway-murder. If it's species has the clout it claims, it should be easy enough to prove it; so far it has not.
>>5123362Yeah, proof would be important. So far it's all talk. Talk that makes me hesitant to kill it but talk nevertheless.
>>5123266>>5123362+1 this. If I could clown an entire interstellar race like this I'd totally do it too. We gotta get PROOF
>>5123266>DeclineThe punishment for harming a Jaxtian is death. Always
>>5123687In fairness, so far that hasn't been the case for Baalathi or Hazaar. Their punsihment seems to be imprisonment, experimentation, and sort of enslavement.
>>5123687We literally allow the hazaar to live despite the fact that they were trying to trick us, and now they're being given a literal fucking planet.We treat jaxtians worse than the fucking xenos. Jaxtians are the ones who get killed when they so much as displease gorillaman.
>>5123794Again, a point of order: true Hazaar aren't being given a planet. Blue Hazaar, who are Jaxtian hybrids, are being given a planet, and only to prepare it for full-blooded Jaxtians (unless a future Supreme Leader differs from this plan).
>>5123823Blue Hazaar are Hazaar, but blue. Hazaar aren't one race, but mutliple castes that are highly different. Just because this one has blue fur doesn't make it less of a xeno.We're giving them a planet based solely on the idea that becasue blue guy here was loyal, that all of them will be.>are being given a planet, and only to prepare it for full-blooded JaxtiansYeah, i'm certain all those hazaar will happily hand over the planet and leave when they actual jaxtians come.Hazaar cannot live together with Jaxtians due to their reproduction methods, so those blue hazaar would have to be removed once our actual citizens were sent.
>>5123830Eh, they make good workforce, just integrate them with that intent in mind. Keep up the education and re-education of the Haazar and Blue Haazar in check and they'll be good, productive members of the Jaxtian Hegemony.
>>5124390Let's make sure to give the Blue Haazar something akin to families and childhoods. We want them adhering as closely as possible to Jaxtian social and cultural norms.
>>5124390>Eh, they make good workforce, just integrate them with that intent in mind. They can't be integrated, you know how their biology is. They aren't compatible with living in the same spaces as Jaxtians.Simply put, they aren't Jaxtians in any way shape or form. It's the equivalent of thinking a chestburster will be loyal to humanity if we raise it right.
You don't like this worm- or the way he talks big. Perhaps he is telling the truth, but there is only one way to find out.”Well, your services would certainly be appreciated around here for our fledgling species... If what you're saying is true. You claim to be so well connected with your species over the whole galaxy- but yet haven't shown anything yet to prove it! If you can't, then I'll just have my men escort you from the starbase. I won't even punish you for the old captain- you'd be free to leave.” You say with an evil smile.The worm clicks his talons together.“You mean... out there? In the open- exposed to the sun? W-Wait! I CAN prove it. Watch this- this station is equipped with FTL communications, correct? Tell your computer-mind to listen closely- punch in these coordinates... now red-shift the signal. Increase the power- Now send a ping. There we go. I felt it make contact.”Instantly, Alavis chimes in. Somehow, a machine without emotions sounds surprised.“Your Supremacy, we have just received a message from the Esaal Stratocracy. They are questioning why we just pinged them.”Somehow, without using a single computer or machine- this worm managed the impossible task of locating a major military installation of another alien species- one who is supposed to be your rival in terms of technology.“I know you received messages from the Esaal, and others, after your first test of your FTL drive. I know you were never able to return the messages- they didn't even aim for your homeworld- but they aimed for the nearest FTL communication they could- that Aristocrat ship stuck in your home system. Dumbfounded? That's alright, your majesty. As I said before, we are the Aannel. Not ordinary carbon-based life. Now, let's talk about the perks of my newfound position...”Sending an FTL message is very difficult. The worm knows everything- it even knows how you received messages after your first FTL test, and how you struggled to return it. Sending FTL messages doesn't just require the right direction, but an exact three dimensional coordinate, the right speed and power... Living things seem to be better at dealing with FTL speeds for computers, but you never imagined a living thing could do something like this.
After the “proof” of this ambassadors ability- you had no choice but to hire him. He's the advocate now. Besides a position of importance, a weighty paycheck, he also requires a small eco-farm on the Xin colony just for himself; to raise meat animals for his ravenous appetite.It's expensive for sure. But you can't much afford not to.Something else comes up- an unspoken realization. Each race with a “worm” would know how to locate anyone else- with or without a worm. If that worm could just give the location of the Esaal military base, maybe even their homeworld, that easily- then any worm could do the same for you. The worms must know this too.In the meantime, you have the Hegemony's top navigator transferred to Xin to work on updating starmaps with your “advocate”, might as well try to benefit from this situation...
DAMMIT!You've been had. This “worm” Xeno has got you by the balls, and he knows it!FUCK!When you were younger, you could have made this punching bag explode. You're old, and now you're mad too. You feel more and more powerless by the day as time slips away from you, but the universe keeps seeming bigger and more intimating by the moment. You guess you know how Kinja felt when the entire Hegemony fell onto his shoulders and made him the Supreme.But what can you possible do against something so insurmountable? You were taught that nothing is impossible for the Hegemony- and the Supreme Ruler always leads the charge. But what happens when we finally run into a species greater then our own? Older? More powerful? You've always relied on your body and your strength to carry you through- but against that worm you'd be little more then a rodent.You should spend some time on something else. Focus on the manageable. You decide to work on science- some extra projects that could use your approval for mass testing and implementation.The first is a new device, called Levitron. The technology has technically been around for over two hundred years now- tractor beams, but only now has energy and antigravity-engines become low impact and miniaturized enough to work. It's essentially a jetpack- a single device strapped to the body that can let the user float, hover, fly- a fun toy and useful for astronauts in space as a logical advancement of the antigravity boot technology that was the standard before you were born.The second is about the Baalathi. With this... worm and your newfound understanding of FTL communication, it may be possible to find new methods of communication with these aliens. While in captivity for a long time, you've never really understood them beyond their gas-exchange “hivemind”. An actual conversation would be a first, and could open doors.The third and last idea... is just something that popped into your head. Ingar. He's a genius, why not see what he is up to? No, better idea, just do whatever he wants. Whatever project he wants approval on- just give it to him. You know his latest works have something to do with quantum entanglement but beyond that, you won't even ask, you'll just give him the funds and let him do his thing.>Approve the Levitron for mass production>Open communication with the captive Baalathi>Give Ingar whatever he wants for his pet projects
>>5124644>Open communication with the captive Baalathi
>>5124644>>Approve the Levitron for mass production
>>5124642Kinman has already seen one of these worms? when?
>>5124644>Give Ingar whatever he wants for his pet projectsA little risky but he's a genius so we would probably get more of of it than from the other two.
>>5124644>Give Ingar whatever he wants for his pet projects
>>5124657I think their kind dwell in hyperspace. He probably encountered one, maybe without even consciously realizing it, or his first FTL flight.
>>5124644>Give Ingar whatever he wants for his pet projectsLevitrons are already there. They're not going to leave any time soon - we can't afford to let a genius like Ingar be wasted.
>>5124644I really don't see why we can't do all of these so>Approve the Levitron for mass production>Open communication with the captive Baalathi>Give Ingar whatever he wants for his pet projectsIf we can only pick one then>Give Ingar whatever he wants for his pet projectsIngar isn't immortal and only has so much time in his life for working on science things, the Baalathi and Levitron can wait.
>>5124757Backing this. All three sound interesting, but Ingar's projects have the most time constraint - so if we can only do one right now, let's see what he has in mind.>>5124641Also, give the Esaal Stratocracy a proper explanation; don't just leave them hanging on a random ping. Let's use this to open some sort of dialogue if we can.
>>5124812Yeah, thirding, also ask the Esaal if they know of these worms. With a fourth (fifth?) alien species discovered, things are bound to get hectic. There's the Migrators, then the Haazar, Baalathi, those green dino primitives, Aanel, and now the Esaal... wait, isn't this six? Also, the 'aa' conjugation is really common, huh.
>>5124957As a frugal sort myself, I'm confident in saying that the Jews probably are delighted to live RENT-FREE in that big brain of yours.
>>5124957That's pretty retarded. Not because it's "da joos" or anything ,it could work, but they are in no way even similar to that. Not even in a similar situation.
>Give Ingar whatever he wants for his pet projects.I like where this is going.
>>5124644>Give Ingar whatever he wants for his pet projectsIs it time to choose a new Supreme Leader yet?
>>5125095If we're still going with young supreme leader candidates, i'm pretty sure it is.
>>5124957Aanelids are more blunt and actually useful though.
>>5125098Agori might be biased towards another Alpha to succeed him, just a guess.
>>5124642Kinda reminds me of the bottom panel
>>5124644>>Give Ingar whatever he wants for his pet projectsWe gave him a waifu, it’s time he repays his debt.
>>5125176Maybe, but he's only as biased as we let him be.
You've decided to fund Ingar's program. His eyes light up- he blathers about instant communications... whatever. He apologizes about the expense, and you sign the check. Phew, now you feel a lot better.In the meanwhile- you don't want to waste the opportunity. The Esaal respond to your hails with a generic message.”WE ARE ESAAL!” It blares- it seems they always open their communications with shouting. You aren't exactly how that gets through the translator.”We received your comms a few days ago- we were unsure of its purpose. We normally don't keep open communications with hostile or unimportant species; but our Aannel advisor has vouched for your species, hence you must be strategically significant. We welcome you Jaaxtians.”The message includes a short list of bullet points in data- mostly propaganda, but a highly militaristic bent. Alavis can piece together the truth from reading between the lines. The Esaal are a military dictatorship, with a hierarchical society remarkably similar to your own Jaaxtian power structure. They go by a strict hierarchy of military ranks, with everyone not in the military a “civilian” and treated as a second class citizen. Their society is headed by a “Eight Star Admiral”, the quintessential Supreme Ruler from a foreign culture.The Esaal themselves are a race of aliens who seemed to evolve on a planet with extensive canyon and cave networks- they have a unique binocular vision using two vertical eyes instead of horizontal ones. You are lacking more significant bio data- the Esaal wouldn't want to give out their genetic code to give other species a chance to develop bioweapons against them. You should probably do the same.While you have nothing else to compare it to, a rough estimate of their technology puts their military strength, in terms of numbers, ships, and technology as being above your own. It would be very unwise to pick a fight with them- after all, their entire society is ordered around it. Their industrial capacity, in terms of raw manufacturing and population, seem to roughly equal to yours. As for their technology and cultural / quality of life development- they seem to be behind yours.”We will leave a comm link open with your species- as a token of our acquaintance. Over and out.”...It is only after you let off some steam and accept reality do you actually start to face the facts. The truth is that you're getting old and it's time to start thinking about your legacy- or more accurately, your replacement. Every since your lifespan was artificially extended with technology to the average age of about 100 years of age. All Jaxtians get tested at 90 for the lethal GPCS to tell them how long they have left to live- but Alpha types like you never live as long, so you get tested at 80 instead. You have eight years.
Eight years left to live... not even a full decade. Over a decade off from the average. Your big body curses you yet again. The last laugh of a genetic dead end.Ever since it was unearthed, you keep thinking on the message left by Vantix Garastra, the first Supreme Ruler of the space age. His time capsule hinting and accurately predicting the Supreme Rulers of the future- and pointed directly at you. You keep wracking your brain trying to understand what he meant.It seems that his assessment of the future Supreme Rulers tending towards neuroticism was correct. Your predecessor, Talacent, was remarkably grounded even among his contemporaries. But all of your contemporaries have been host to emotional problems... including yourself. Your violence, your anger, your angst... all from a war you were chosen for that never came. The weapon rusting in a warehouse- and what an outdated joke of a weapon you are.From this fear of being outdated, and from the fear of new Supreme Rulers pulled from the population of regular Jaxtians being even worse- you had to make a plan. You made your own. Two clones- one of Eoba Garastra, and the other of Kimnan Oles. These genetically modified Indigos have traits and genes spliced and added to correct the faults of the originals- that was always the intention.Eoba II has been nothing but a wonderful boy. He's a Garastra after all- born Supreme Ruler material. He's a born duelist and tactician. His correction was easy- just a nice gentle suite of mood stabilizers in his brain- and a special little increase in his self preservation instinct. Prevent his desire for his “heroic last stands” like his first edition and make him a reliable leader.Kimnan II was more complex. The first Kimnan displeased you time and again- you knew him since he was a child, and his desire for glory and recognition was in there from the beginning. It was only after you punished him did you decide to make good on Talacent's threat and make a clone of him. Remove his arrogance, his self-centered mind, dull his competitive edge... But it didn't work. At least not in the way you wanted. Kimnan II is weak. Filled with self doubt and hesitation, he constantly fails you, he never lives up to Eoba...Where is it, Vantix? Where is the perfection? Isn't this what you wanted? If we can't find the perfect Supreme Ruler, we have to make him. Where is he? Are these building blocks good enough?
...And here they are again. Eoba always the kind, gentle “big brother”- they're both the same age you damn little fool. He's your rival, not your friend. They're doing martial arts practice- Kimnan failing yet again. Falls on his face, and Eoba helps him up. You already know who you're going to pick- Kimnan isn't anywhere good enough. Maybe you ruined him- but is Eoba capable of this too? You know that you'll die soon- too soon for a proper introduction to the office of the Supreme Ruler. Eoba II will take the throne when he's young. You have to be sure he's cut out for it- no empathy for the weak and incapable. You have just the test for him.>Test Eoba II>Other (Write In)
>>5125483>OtherHow about we take a look at the natural Supreme Leadee candidates first?Also, Vanix made it very clear we couldn't rely on genetics alone, maybe it's time to review the Supreme ruler training program. Instead of selecting a young candidate for a life time position, perhaps we should just put all the supreme candidates into regular leadership positions and select the next supreme ruler from a pool of experienced leaders. This will lead to shorter "terms" but at least we'd have a track record to review rather than gambling on raw childhood potential alone.
>>5125483>Test Eoba II>Other (Write In)Test Eoba II against high scorers from the population at large, If the cloned Indigos are really superior, let them prove it. Vantix would applaud the meritocracy of it.
>>5125509+1 to this, don't got anything to add.
>>5125509+1 to this.Also apparently there a secret plotline hinted at a few threads ago that the audience guesses? What was it?
>>5125509>>5125513Support both. I know we're an Alpha, and angsty, and old, but are we so blinkered as to not see that we have utterly failed to understand a very direct message about nurture vs nature and the value of empathy? We were specifically chosen FOR our empathy over the science-sociopath and the egotist!
Eoba II might be a good possibility, and if we can't find any other choices he should get the gig; but we can't ignore the possibility that there might be better Jaxtian youths in the general population - selecting PURELY between these two clones does a huge disservice to the hegemony.
>>5125483>>Test Eoba II
>>5125682To be fair, we don't really know. And Agori himself definitely has some kind of emotional issues, what with how he's one moment sad and self-deprecating and the next he's mauling someone to death.
>>5125509+1 to this too. The whole chosen child thing was ok back when lifespans were shorter but we can afford to pick from slightly older and more proven candidates. It is also worthwhile to look into balancing their training with a little more "normal childhood" type stuff.
Something could be said of changing the Supreme Ruler candidacy program now with extended lifespans, and especially the anti-aging properties of the teleomere lengthening procedure. Neruoplasticity remains at a relatively good level throughout the entire lifespan of a Jaxtian now, which is one of the primary reasons why children were chosen.But there is another reason. The baggage- the social connections of an adult are just... not ideal. Not for a role with such importance and gravitas. Children are still given families, friends, but they are kept to an inner circle- free from the abuse of bullies or distanced family, free from forming connections that are stronger then to the nation and people. In a way, that's the biggest strength of a child. Still, you feel as though a last ditch effort to maybe find someone else would work.Of course, Vantix's predictions came true. The problem isn't a lack of qualified candidates... it's too many. As soon as your search criteria is expanded, you are filled in with seven or eight Supreme Rulers- all who you don't know. Young people with no connection to you, only the basic suite of advanced training for the gifted...Hold on... what the hell?SNAP!No! NO DAMMIT! This isn't what you want. You want Eoba II!Eoba the 2nd, the spitting image of the first. You know it was your fault, Eoba? It was all your fault!The problems in your life... they were his fault! He was like your mentor, filling your heads with tails of ancestor warrior-kings and the loss of your societies great spark... and you ate it up! He made you kill, needlessly, and put that satisfaction in your head from a young age. You always rejected it- but it made you appreciate your body. Appreciate force. It never really left you- at some point it just switched over. You were like a coiled spring that never got to go off- chosen for a war that never happened.And even worse- you died. Died older then you will be able to- you bastard Eoba. You got away with it. This is the best you can do to get even with him!
You are now Eoba Garastra the 2nd, though most people call you Eoba. You are a young Jaaxtian. You like dueling manuals and classic tales of adventure. You're also one of the next in line to be the Supreme Ruler.You never really considered yourself super special; though you've always been proud, you don't get the weird level of almost worship you receive by regular folks. When you get done doing a combat simulator or technical test they'll ask how you came up with an answer and no matter what you say they'll gasp and write something down quickly on a data pad like it's some special revelation.“Hello, Eoba.””Greetings, Lord and Master.” You bow, as you were taught. ”What is that box you are carrying under your arm?”“It's a game. An old game.””Ohh, can I play it?”“Of course- that's why I brought it here.”Agori is your father... kind of. Not really. He's the Supreme Ruler, very busy. He rarely sees you, but when he does it's usually important. He's nice to you but to your brother, Kimnan... he just scowls at him a lot. You don't like the way it makes Kimnan feels.“This is the Lord's game. Do you know what that is?””It's a very old medieval board game that was brought back into relevance during the Neo-aristocrat movement of the early Hegemony; who valued it for the concepts of Noblesse Oblige. The game details the portions of a “proper nobleman's” life and how they must remain in balance with each other in order to “win” over your rival.”“Very good. Remember, these pieces are made of expensive stone, so they are never touched directly. Let's play.”>Play Aggressively>Play Defensively
>>5125974>Play AggressivelyEoba II may be a much more kind ruler, but he's still got Eoba blood. Would be good to see a good mix of a supreme leader who can go on the offensive without being aggressive himself.
>>5125974>Play AggressivelyThat's probably what Agori would want.
>>5125974>Play AggressivelyBut not angrily. Be bold. Be daring. Have fun! We will break the chain of mad Supremes, damnit!
>>5125974>>Play AggressivelyNo brakes on the madnesss train
>>5125974>Play aggressivelyLet's see if we can come up with a strategy for quick, clean win.>>5125995Isn't the chain of mad supremes... just Agori?Even if you somehow count Vul for his arrogance and infidelities, Kinja and Talacent were both fairly stable guys.
>>5126053Agori's generation of supreme ruler candidates was kinda cursed.
>>5125974>Play aggressivelyThis is Eoba we're talking about here of course he's gonna play aggressively.
>>5126053I suppose that's fair, really. Regardless, let's not let the prior generation's extreme neuroses warp us. I fear it's already happening to Kimnan II.
You're pretty sure that playing aggressively was the right move. You make a lot of space on the board, and while you have less time to learn the rules, you pick up on the basic strategy pretty quick.You're not sure if Agori is letting you win. You know he's getting old now- and he's barely looked at the board this whole game. He's mostly just been staring at you. You're pretty sure this has to be some kind of test; you can tell by the way he's acting. It's not the game that important, it's the way you react to it.Are you supposed to win?"There are three boards in the Lord's Game to represent the three sections of a Lord's life. The game is a teaching tool as well as it is a strategic challenge. There is the hunt, the dance, and the kingdom in the center. The Lord's game teaches balance- because if you fail two of the three branches but excel in one, you will still lose.""Because you will have lost the balance of lordship?""Exactly- you go from a master to something mastered. If you excel at the hunt but fail in the field and dance, you have become as the working class. If you excel at the dance but fail the others; will are a toothless socialite- though later editions of the game call this bourgeoisie for anti-capitalist sentiment. If you excel at the field but lack the hunt and dance; you become a petty warlord.""So the victory condition of the game is based on the losing side, not the winner's. It's more about surviving and outlasting your rivals.""Exactly- it's only a game that highlights your failures when you lose. It teaches the winners nothing."...Does that mean you aren't supposed to win?"Agori, what are we playing this game for?"
"The life of you and your brother, Kimnan.""W-What?!""My life is incomplete, little one. My whole life I felt like I was only one two boards. It was only later that a message from your ancestor's ancestor shook me loose and told me what I needed to do. He said it himself, who we are as people is what makes the critical difference. How can I raise a perfect ruler?""A-Agori! You're not making any sense! This is part of the game, right???""No- it isn't a game." Agori says, producing a screen with an image of a kidnapped Kimnan II, tied up at gunpoint. Whatever loyal Enforcer was fulfilling this mission looked like there was no hesitation in his face."If you win this game- you will live, and Kimnan will die. If you lose, I will kill you myself, and Kimnan will live. I may or may not pick him as the Supreme Ruler- but I will certainly pick you as long as you survive.""Survive? Please father-""I am NOT your father, whelp. I GREW you in a vial to do this. To fix past mistakes. You must prove to me now that the Hegemony can grow people- the right way!""No... please don't..."You're just a kid. You're tearing up already; the pressure is too great. This has to be a test, he can't really mean it... are you supposed to sacrifice yourself and lose? Or prove you will do anything to win, even if it means giving up somebody you love? You know Agori hates Kimnan... but he can't hate him that bad, right?But can you risk it? Is there really no way out of this unless someone dies?There's only one move left on the board. You're in position; Agori will be forced from two fields and will lose by default. But by winning one battle, you'll lose another. Maybe you could force the game to draw, but having three boards makes that almost impossible... maybe you could just refuse to play. But would he really go through with this?>Win the game>Lose the game>Ensure both Kimnan and You survive
>>5126866>Ensure both Kimnan and You survive>Kill AgoriA sharp game piece, the element of surprise, an eye or his throat. We are small, agile, eprfected, and a born duelist. He is aged, unstable, and his alpha body makes him strong, but probably impedes his reach and mobility -- big men and big dogs find their joints going on them as they age.We are Eoba. We take dramatic and decisive action. We are PERFECT Eoba. We do so not for glory, but for our people. We will save our brother.Victory or Death.
>>5126866>Ensure both Kimnan and You surviveIs this a the only winning move is not to play situation? If not then>Kill Agori
>>5126866>>Win the game
>Kill AgoriProve we are the worthy protector.
>>5126866>Ensure both Kimnan and You survive
>>5126866>Ensure both Kimnan and You survive>Kill Agori
>>5126866>>Win the gameLogically, we need to show we cannot be held to ransom. If we lose, we die and there's no reason to assume Agori won't kill what he sees as a 'defective' Kimnan anyway; if we stall the game or refuse to play he'll probably kill us both anyway. So Win. And mention that if Kimnan 2 is killed, when we come into the supreme leadership we will execute his killer as a murderer and criminal stripped of all Jaxtian honour - even if that killer is Agori himself.
>>5127642That's what he wants, you retard. He wants us to throw away our brother's life because he's "weak". I'd rather kill him as a fuck you, even if it ends badly.I mean, he is very old, and we're a clone of Eoba.
>>5127686..you do have a point. And Agori's fallen so far short of any potential he one might have had that getting killed by a child during a chess game is a more honourable fate then he deserves.So, changing my vote to:>Ensure both Kimnan and You survive>Kill AgoriHONOUR OR THE VOID
Update is in production, and will be in later today.Did I make Agori too unlikable?
>>5126866>Ensure both Kimnan and You survive>Kill AgoriThere is no other way.
>>5127786Nah, Agori was cool, if anything, Kinman 1 was too likeable ahahaha
>>5127786Agori is great. Anons are just unable to use his talents and inclinations productively.
>>5127786He's a great evil Supreme Ruler IMO.
>>5127786He was good, but I wonder how much control we really had over him as the players, and how much of his mind was controlled by his grudges.If the original Eoba never had him kill in the first place, would things have come about differently, or was he always destined to be so violent?
>>5127786I'd say so, unfortunately. We didn't get to see him do very much that was directly positive, and both his positive and negative actions got afflicted by his rage issues. And we didn't often get to see him actually leading and planning on important issues.Plus, right now he's forcing a child to play a game with the threat of either murdering him or his friend based on the outcome. That's kind of a low point.
>>5127786He's a good character, but that doesn't mean he has to be likable. He's an self-pitying jackass, but it's interesting to see him being a bipolar gorilla.
He has his good side, but he has become really unreasonable over time.
>>5127786Nah, but his mental illness vetoed a lot of our decisions, and now we're playing from the viewpoint of a child who presumably doesn't want him OR his brother to die.It's a shame his mentors and circumstances fucked Agori up so badly. He's one of my favourite Supremes so far...But a main character you cannot control the actions of is not an ideal main character for a quest, and a vindictive rage monster controlled by mood swings makes for a bad parent and a worse dictator.
>>5127786Nah man I liked him, we're just looking at it from the perspective of Eoba.
Agori is cool in a wierd sort of way. What you think of when you picture an old school King.
>>5128426He's less of a king and more of a barbarian chief, with how personal he takes punishment.
"Then I refuse to play." You say, snapping your push stick on the table in front of you."Eoba, this is your test. You are a child, and you will obey your ruler. Your tantrum will not stop this. Finish the game. I command you to finish the ga-"With a fast movement, you slit Agori's throat. The sharpened piece of exquisite stone was more then sharp enough.You are now Agori again, and you are dying.For some reason, you never considered that Eoba might have been getting himself a weapon. You knew he had fast hands, given his lineage and all, but you guess you'd never been challenged physically for so long that the thought of him fighting back had never even factored in. Nobody ever challenged you.Then again- in a way, you are vindicated. You fall back onto the floor with a loud thud as you quickly feel what life you have left leave you. You are starting to hallucinate as your brain is deprived of oxygen. In a way- Eoba vindicated your beliefs your entire life. The child overcame the overgrown adult because he's faster, had a weapon, and struck when you weren't expecting it- you're the least threatening kind of Jaaxtian. In your dying moments, you see Eoba, Eoba II, and the Eoba clone all dancing and mingling together over this child- who is watching and making sure you die, but standing far enough away you can't quite reach him in revenge. Smart boy, good boy.Dammit Eoba... You were right. Your primitive man defeated me. Your clone did me in. It just took half a century more then you thought...
The moment after the murder, the Enforcers arrive. Agori had sent them away, so they did not hear your screams in the event you made the “wrong” choice, but the Emperor's necklace alerted them of his death either way.The Enforcers don't like what they see, but there is nothing they can do. You are a Supreme Ruler candidate, the one Agori was going to pick, and you killed him. You're about as untouchable as Agori was now. Moreso, this isn't the first time a candidate has killed the Supreme Ruler to mantle his position- it just used to be done in duels, and half a millennia ago...You will be made the Supreme Ruler, though only in a ceremonial role until you get older. You'd be the younger to take the position otherwise. Two days after the announcement of the succession, the AI network goes out. Intelligence immediately knows how and why- it is Ingar.
Ingar always had one foot in the door for the AI network, and with his high level of intelligence he could create secret countermeasures to wrest control of it from Hegemonic control if needed. It seems the moment the succession did not pass to him, since the only other contemporary to Agori was Kimnan, who was disowned, he decided to take matters into his own hands. The Alavis network is effectively shut down for you.While the vast majority of the population and the Hegemonic government follows the right of succession- which would be you, the technology and machines of the Hegemony currently live under control of its prodigal son.“I'll make this brief, Eoba.” Ingar says. “I know you're not dumb enough to believe me if I say I'll give you back the Supreme Rulership when you get old enough- and you won't give me full control of the military naturally- So instead I'll keep it simple. You give me Xin. The Xin system will have a new Supreme Ruler- myself. I will take with me as many people wish for a change of regime here on Jaxt and the colonies, one half of your warships, and we will bother you no more.”Thankfully, because of the manual controls and backup AIs- there is no chance of him being able to totally overpower your military systems. Even if you give into his demands, he could not kill you or conquer Jaxt with whatever you give him- he'd be forced to leave and become an independent state or lose everything in a losing battle against the entrenched defense of the Jaxt system.Ingar decided to take his chance now, during the power vacuum. An Enforcer leans in to warn you that while you could relatively easily assassinate Ingar, even without computers, as long as he remains here- the resulting destruction caused by his countermeasures he certainly has prepared in the event of his death would be devastating. Already most industry and spaceflight has stopped- and you are unable to contact the Xin colony until you can get a new, uncompromised computer system online. Once he leaves, killing him would be much more difficult- and with the added complexity of the alien ambassador worm, his Xin-based Hegemony may be considered more legitimate then yours on an intergalactic scale.Agori's death caused this power struggle. For not being willing to sacrifice your brother or yourself, you have to deal with the political fallout of the action. And you, personally, believe in the infallibility of the Hegemony... Accepting this renegade's demands would mean losing soil to an enemy. The Hegemony must live forever- but what is the move here?>Allow Ingar to go>Kill Ingar and deal with the consequences
>>5128562>>Kill Ingar and deal with the consequencesOnce again, I can’t believe that anons unwillingness to be massive dick in a regime that utterly controls every aspect and facet of your life comes to bite back in the ass.
>>5128562>Kill Ingar and deal with the consequencesNo one threatens us.
>>5128562>Give Ingar the role of Supreme LeaderPlay the long game. Eoba can be Supreme when he grows up, maybe, or at least take a high position.
>>5128578Like, I get the instinct to fight against him, but the continuity and the health of our Hegemony matters most, especially at such a precarious time in our history and with so many opportunities we could invoke through the diplomatic hyperworm.
>>5128578Support, he's got 20 years left at most. After him we either get this Eoba clone or a different child. Keeping the hegemony in one piece is the best option, but we need to make sure Ingar doesn't flee to Xin after we give him power.
>>5128562>Kill Ingar and deal with the consequences
>>5128565>>5128567>>5128652We are all clear that the consequences will be the crippling of our AI-centred economy and space-travel RIGHT as we've started to be formally entered into the wider realms of interstellar politics with established spacefaring civilizations, right? Ingar's killswitch will CRIPPLE our society.
>>5128562>Allow Ingar to goIt's too late for us to do this anons. We just have to deal with the fruit of our mistakes. The killswitch will be bad bad bad.
>>5128578Support"The continuity of the Hegemony matters more than me. I just refused to play Agori's game. Keep the supreme rulership, give it to someone else when the time comes, I don't care any more."Got say Agori was the most interesting supreme. I like that his personality vetoed a few decisions, it went a long way to mitigating the tendency of MCs to become ultra pragmatic schizos, but it's a trick you van't pull too often without annoying the playerbase.
>>5128565We overwhelmingly voted for xenocide, but it got vetoed by our "nice" supreme ruler.All the non-dickish choices that weren't forced seemed to have worked out in the long run.
>>5128680>spoilerIt also gave us all the more reason to be careful of our Supreme Ruler choices moving forwards. Makes us take them really seriously.>>5128675Join us on team giving-Ingar-control-for-now, then. Why not? If he moves to Xin and takes our Aanel diplomat and control over the AI, he'll be de facto Supreme Leader of the more credible government anyway.
>>5128693He's liable to kill us and our brother before he dies if we give him complete control. Whose to say he won't kill us as soon as soon as we cede military control? I
>>5128702Why bother, at that point? When we aren't a Supreme, we are just a gifted and useful child that he can shuffle wherever he would like.ESPECIALLY why kill Kimnan II, who wasn't even runner-up to be Supreme by this point?
>>5128719We're political threats, no matter how small. We've also shown ourselves to be quite ruthless through killing Agori. I'd think we're atleast worth something symbolically. The majority of the population still follow the rights of succession. We're playing as Eoba now we have to think of what's best for him and I'd rather not leave it up to the whims of Ingar.
>>5128562>Give Ingar the role of Supreme LeaderHe's old, we can wait a couple of years more.
>>5128562>Allow Ingar to goLet the old fart die of old age. Also FUCK this was Ingar's project, wasn't it?
>>5128768His project is probably a quantum dead man's switch that would work instantly even on Xin.
>>5128772We still can't just hand him the chair. It's not in Eoba II's nature.
>>5128780Personally that's why I'm ok with killing him and weather whatever he has in store for us.>It's not in Eoba II's nature.Agreed, he didn't accept Agori's bullshit so he's not going to do it with Ingar.
>>5128562>Kill Ingar and deal with the consequences>And give Kinman (the original) permission to have his arm regrown and be a hero of the Hegemony againThey tried to be strong men, but ultimately Agori and Ingar were and are weak. It is not strength to deny compassion, and not strength to put yourself before your society. And these men, both weak in their own way, are now creating hard times.
>>5128578What makes you think that Eoba II would be allowed to grow up? The MOMENT he hands over the supreme leadership he'd be due for public execution for the Regicide of Agori so Ingar can consolidate power and portray himself as the more legitimate candidate.
>>5128891yeah, this dude would 100% cut out the loose end that is us. I mean we literally just slashed the throat of the last supreme ruler. I doubt he would 1.) put us in a positive light and 2.) leave us lying around
>>5128562>Kill Ingar and deal with the consequencesWe can not let Ingar win, it would send a precedent that the Hegemony could be defeated and once that happens the people will be more unruly.>The Tocqueville effect (also known as the Tocqueville paradox) is the phenomenon in which, as social conditions and opportunities improve, social frustration grows more quickly.
You people do know that ingar can't kill us, right? It's right there in the post.
>>5128562>Kill Ingar and deal with the consequences>>5128941It’s hardly a paradox. The less time people have to spend on worrying about putting food into their mouths, the more time they have to vent their aspirations.
>>5128982He can't kill us NOW through his own actions with the resources he CURRENTLY holds.But if we're stupid enough to hand over the power of Supreme leader he'd immediately have the legitimate authority to order our death.
>>5128562Newfag here, with no context for my decision beyond this thread. While I'd like to support >>5128578 purely because I think it'll be vetoed on the account that putting Ingar in Agori's position will threaten both our and our brother's lives, given that we're more of a political threat to the stability of his governance, but I'll settle for cutting out the middle man and just voting to plunge our society into chaos instead of splitting the Hegemony into a rival power structure with better tech and the ear of the galaxy on his side.>Kill Ingar and deal with the consequencesTime to sink this Hegemony with no survivors!
>>5128578Supporting, even if it means death to Eoba II. Unity of the Hegemony is paramount to any Supreme Leader.
>>5129045We're not giving him the power of supreme leader of Jaxt, though. He wants to be supreme ruler of Xin.This will most definitely create a rival and end in a civil war, but is it better than ingar almost definitely blowing up our entire infrastructure?
>>5129086Quite a few people want to outright give him the throne to not divide the Hegemony, fair enough but in that case he's going to kill Eoba.
>>5129086Really, the result ends up the same. I think it's better to deal with the consequences now and control the galactic narrative on this than split the empire into two rival powers, in which our enemy will have the advantage of tech and diplomacy, compared to our population and developed economy (assuming you can trust Ingar to keep his word not to blow up our industry after giving him one half of our warships). Really though, we need to contain this mess now before Ingar gives a tech upgrade to the Esaal Stratocracy in exchange for military support, right after ganking us of our warships.You either deal with this problem now or let it compound into a bigger problem later on lads.
>>5129089That's absolutely retarded, we'd be literally giving it to an sociopath. This is the exact thing that vantix warned us about.
>>5129105The difference is whether or not it'll be worse. If he leaves with some people and a few ships but our industry stays the same we could still take him down, the problem is if he tries to crash the plane with no survivors and causes some catastrophe that kills billions.
>>5129154My main worry are the diplomatic repercussions and cultural hegemony being threatened. There cannot be two Supreme Leaders, and he could call in a galactic coalition to kick our shit in anyway.These choices ain't easy, but this is the consequence of creating a power vacuum by killing the former leader to save our brother. Billions now, or more billions later.
>>5126866Jesus fucking fuck!
>>5128558>Your clone did me in. It just took half a century more then you thought...Like poetry
>>5128680Based Drop out. Break the cycle Eoba II. Take your brother and live in peace.
>>5129196Well, while i feel like even a war would be better, we sure as hell can't give INGAR the throne>Kill Ingar and deal with the consequences
This is me >>5128768 and I've mulled over it some more.>>5128562FUCK IT, HEGEMONY NOW, HEGEMONY FOREVER>Kill Ingar and deal with the consequencesON TOP OF SEDITION, HIS FLAG ISN'T EVEN /AESTHETIC/
Votes are heavily in favor of Killing Ingar. Not going to call it just yet so everyone has a chance to vote; since this a pretty important one. Update will be later today.
>>5129196Which itself was a consequence of putting a superior but untrained and undisciplined child into a life-or-death situation he didn't have the years or emotional maturity to be prepared for for the sake of a silly grudge - I mean, all his instincts/great minds TOLD him to look at the wider candidate field instead, but his anger overuled him. And we got this instead.And 'You must master all THREE boards. Now please select who out of the TWO of you who is going to die to my ONE elderly self' really was Agori setting himself up for his unwitting end.Eboa saw the third board, and a move he could make to win the challenge that was presented to him. Agori was a mentally weak man, and now we get hard times.
>>5128578Support. He has proven worthy.
>>5128578The Hegemony is above all else, what is our life compared to itSupport Ingar
Okay, you want ruthless, you will get ruthless>Torture ingam physically and psychologically for as long as it takes for him to give you the back control.
You people seriously want to give a literal sociopath the control of the hegemony?
>>5129517He’s hardly going to be the first nor the last mentally ill supreme leader. What matters most is the ability to get things done.
Why do you guys want to let him go? If we kill him now the worst he can do is mess up our infrastructure and destroy the AI network, both of which could be build back and the attack could be used as propaganda.If we let him go we:>show the people that the Hegemony can be defeated>allow him access to a system worth of resources >give him the time to use said resources to build up his power far beyond his gamble here>give him acces to ftl and the alien diplomat, so that even if we reconquer the system his men could just flee and seek asylum>keep the AI network he bloody tampered with alreadyEvery time in history when a ruler could have killed a revolution before it became a problem and did not do so it became a problem too large to be dealt with later.So why would we not kill him?
>>5129523He is a literal sociopath who was trying to commit treason, you fool
>>5129536Because he's smart, capable, savvy, and a good strategist. Because we have an option to hand him the keys for 20 years, use his genius to advance our entire civilization without any set-backs or fragmentation, and then hand the position off to someone more empathetic and stable at that point without having lost steam.
>>5129589And if he succeeds it would make him a great supreme leader
>>5129649No it wouldn't, you absolute retard. Have you been ignoring everything that's been shown?>This guy who is willing to kill god knows how many people, betray the hegemony and has been shown to be an manipulative sociopath who will fuck up other people without regret if it benefits him would be a great ruler!
>>5129635You're forgetting that he's a crazy sociopath and we can't control characters from doing stuff like that. He's not going to hand over the position, you fool
>>5129635If that was anything close to what Ingar actually wanted, he'd have just remained 'loyal', taken up the Regency for our underage supreme and used the position to rule by proxy for a decade.Which is more time then Agori would have had left naturally; and since Ingar and Agori were about the same age would probably have put Ingar past his own natural retirement age.
>>5129291>rants about the unfairness of the situation>killed a man and took his throneBut in all seriousness, you voted to ensure both our and our Brother's survival, you think you can pull a 180 immediately after that and ensure that both of us die for the Hegemony?I may be a newfag, but I don't think it works like that. Instead of finding a balance, you decided to take to the field instead and kill Agori. The consequences must be reaped, and I don't think giving up the throne to your would be killer will help you avoid the iron price.>>5129517I would consider the kid who killed his 'father' to be the sociopath, but I digress. Anons need to be less neurotic about this shit.>>5129635As much as I like the man, you gotta realize that he will kill us and our brother. Ya gonna end up vetoed or dead, much like our captain with the worm.
>>5128675I'm changing my vote to >Kill Ingar and deal with the consequencesHe's going to kill Eoba if we hand him complete control.
>>5129792My vote was>>5128801Ingar definitely needs to die for this. I don't know why you thought I was one of those trying to pass control to him.
>>5129792>I would consider the kid who killed his 'father' to be the sociopath, but I digress>Said 'father' is the one who went "LISTEN HERE YOU FUCKING WHELP EITHER DIE OR LET YOUR BROTHER BE KILLED. I AM GONNA FUCKING SHOOT HIM OR STRANGLE YOU. PLAY THE GAME."Are you taking the piss?
>>5129792>killed a man and took his throneHe literally threatened to kill a child over a game of chess. He WAS going to kill him. Agori was an psychotic retard and he deserved to die.
>>5129800Newfag, sorry if I confused you for the other pass-the-buck anons.>>5129813>Are you taking the piss?Yes, but clearly killing his only (sociopathic) father figure in his life won't lead to a more controllable MC for y'all like some of you seem to think.>>5129819And anons have created another psychotic retard to replace him. If it came between his brother or the Hegemony, do you think he will chose the Hegemony after deciding to kill Agori?
>>5129832And anons have created another psychotic retard to replace him>THIS CHILD DECIDED TO PROTECT HIS BROTHER FROM THE CRAZY SENILE PSYCHO? OBVIOUSLY THAT MEANS HE'S WORSEYou are retarded.
>>5129832>And anons have created another psychotic retard to replace himbuddy I think there is a huge leap between "constantly bashing people's heads in like a retarded ape and barely being able to control his retard tantrums" to "trying to protect his brother from said psycho retard"the worst you could say about the kid is that he made a power vacuum but that's the fault of the massive psycho retard for putting a LITERAL KID in a life or death situation and not expecting him to try resisting.
>>5129660>hand over the positionDoesn't need to. He'll die, and someone else will inherit an intact, functional Hegemony.
>>5129851Yes, because that's certainly a smart option>If we just give power to the insane genius, he'll eventually die, so it's okay!Yeah, great idea, genius.Plus, there was literally an entire period where we had to deal with a supreme leader who made himself immortal.
>>5129858If Ingar was going to make himself an immortal computer god, he already has the means to do so.If the Hegemony can't survive a couple decades of a bad or amoral ruler, it would have collapsed under the egotists, harem-keepers, murderers, and other despots we have already heard inklings of in its history.
>>5129866>If Ingar was going to make himself an immortal computer god, he already has the means to do so.He didn't have the authority, which is why he didn't just plain seize the authority. Ingar is a sociopath genius and you want to give him access to literally everything.He's almost certainly going to kill Eoba and Kimnan, too. And the real Kimnan. And who knows who else. He is willing to essentially kill god knows how many millions or billions to gain power, and you want him to have supreme power?
>>5129840>thinking childhood trauma wouldn't turn him into a sociopathThe retarded part come from anons like you.>>5129843I'm honestly waiting for the kid to go rogue and turn the anons against him over some stupid vote. That is, if anons don't vote to kill the kid first.
>>5129887How the fuck does "Kid chooses to kill psycho to protect his brother" mean he's going to turn into a sociopath? If anything, it show he has empathy.
>>5129894That 'empathy' led to the power vacuum we're currently in, and will lead to the suffering of billions whether Ingar dies or becomes Supreme Leader.
>>5129903The power vacuum happened because we gave ingar his funding, he had full access to the network and it would have happened even if agori died naturally, since alphas die early.
>>5129924This.>>5129880>Leader seizes power in soft coup>mist be genocidal madman who wants to live forever and also will inevitably be bad at running a dictatorship and will kill billions of people for no reasonSeems like a leap. I don't want him to be Eternal Godking, but I see reason to think he will be. I don't want him to destroy the Hegemony through brutality and incompetence, but I also see scant evidence for that.
>>5129924Yes, I agree that this situation we're in is the natural consequence of the decisions that we've made.
>>5129515+1 to this.Pluck his fur out one hair at a time if that's what it takes.
>>5128562>Kill Ingar and deal with the consequencesOh fuck almost missed this vote.
You have decided to kill Ingar, end the threat to your reign and the Hegemony at large. While the consequences of this will be dire, there is no other way to avoid a civil war in the future.Eoba II and Kimnan II are escorted to a safe location while the decentralized Hegemony deals with the threat. The main problem at first is information; things seem to be stopped, but normal. Alavis is blocking all orders to release or gather information on Ingar- nobody but the inner circle even knows of his coup. Pretty soon, Ingar sends out false messages of his legitimacy to the population, but the Hegemonic control already has a backup for this- the archaic technologies of broadband television and radio. Using these pure forms of communication, unable to be manipulated by digital trickery, the population is informed and the first stage of unplugging and safety precautions are taken.Eventually, Ingar is tracked down. Even with control of the entire computer network, the trained spies and enforcers of the Hegemony eventually corner him. For a moment, it almost seems like he could be captured, but instead kills himself instead of being taken alive.At the moment of his death, the dead man's trigger is activated. The Enforcers on the scene find a small box- which indeed seems to be some kind of sensor. Even being there before the blood cools, it's too late. Alavis has already begun.At the moment of Ingar's death, the Alavis network begins a chain virus of chaos- each core changes and sends out a signal to change more. Every device, civilian or Hegemonic, can act as a viral carrier to every other device. Even with dead zones, it is simply impossible to stop Alavis from falling under sway of this countermeasure. While the computer scientists aren't exactly sure what Ingar's dying order was- it is clear that the AI has switch from an obedient machine to something that has calculated and carries out the maximum amount of suffering and damage possible in its ability; purely out of spiteful revenge.
They say hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, and while Alavis is not a real female; her scorn is certainly hellish. Every single machine goes haywire. Sewer mains close up and intentionally backflow into hospitals and civilian shelters, in an attempt to spread as much disease as possible. Antigravity vehicles fly around as fast as possible, striking anyone foolish enough to go outside and, right when their batteries are about to run out, fly up as high as they can into the air to become a gravity based projectile. Hundres of acres of farms and gardens are sprayed with heavy metal contaminants and defoliants, destroying crops and permanently ruining arable land. The worst affected are the floating sea colonies- whose anchor systems and guidance systems are ruined. Several are swept by rogue waves or collide with each other, causing them to break apart and drown hundreds of thousands of people in an afternoon. Wherever Alavis cannot reach herself, she attempts to persuade the vunerable and mentally unwell into action- deepfaked videos of love ones being killed by innocent community members; creating totally misled squads of vigilantes roping up anyone who is trying to retain Hegemonic control.While these large scale actions are more significant, the AI is smart and fast enough to do tiny, spiteful things too; consumer devices are boobytrapped to crank up the brightness and volume to unsafe levels to cause vision and hearing damage. Even the most helpless members of your society- such as the very old, are tormented. Alavis modified the euthanasia pods in use to make them only paralyze the patients and release no gas- the poor soul within trapped for potentially days while officials must focus elsewhere. While the Hegemony has always established AI as a safe technology, Alavis has turned from a normal computer intelligent into a Basilisk, a creature of nightmares- a computer dedicated to suffering.Off of Jaxt- the situation is still very bad. While space stations and colonies have slightly more independent computer systems and rely on manual switches for critical systems like life support and power generation; the total lack of communication with the homeworld causes chaos and death everywhere. All of the transport pods and goods on the way from Schoon are turned into ballistic missiles, which turn back and bombard the factory-planet. Damage estimates are in the tens of quadrillions- and the death toll is at least a billion.
While the chaos and damage of Ingar's gamble to gain power is almost indescribable, there is a silver lining. Because of your continued dedication towards equality, tradition, and quality of life towards the Jaxtian people, the civilian population supports the Hegemony through this trying time 100%. Amazing, there is no rioting. There is (almost) no looting, rapes, or violent crimes. Everyone in their community relies on the catastrophe and crisis chain of command; with no Supreme Ruler and communication out, community members and heads of household become in charge and work together. In an amazing show of unity, communities begin working on creating food and water stockpiles, destroy and contain electronics, defend themselves from any looters or mislead military officials, and attempt to establish contact with Hegemonic control.The space colonies, who are not fully independent, settle in with extreme rationing and suspension plans. Even on the homeworld, millions of Jaxtians volunteer to enter suspension during the cleanup period- though some do so selfishly to avoid the extra work and lack of budget for entertainment and travel. Most perform overtime and extra shifts. Space conlonies who would have run out of food and water after a few weeks without shipments from Jaxt can now last a few years with tiny skeleton crews.Schoon, being one of the worst effected planets and also most vital, has an incredible movement of patriotism. The Schoonites manage to create their own secondary AI system, build SD drives and transport pods, and begin sending shipments of critical equipment and life saving medicines and machines back to Jaxt. New communicators using radio and shortwave communications are also included, to reestablish order among Jaxt. Light and sublight communications are reopened among the colonies.Unfortunately, without a powerful computer system, it will be impossible to contact the Xin colony or fly an FTL vessel. While you aren't sure, it is highly likely Ingar's killswitch included a message to Xin- either to try and make it into a Rogue state or causing the same computer virus of destruction that hit Jaxt. There is no way to check up on them until significant progress is made in the rebuilding effort.While the feeling of unity and righteous defense drives the Jaxtians forward; it is still a catastrophic moment for your people. The Supreme Ruler is only a child, while the rightful heir, is still unproven and lacks the Charisma for a direct and speedy recovery as of yet. It will take time; Ingar's arrogance and lust for power will set your people back severely.>Rebuild your military & infrastructure ASAP>Establish communications with the Xin colony>Commission a new master AI that can scour out any remaining Alavis cores or viruses
>>5130159>Rebuild your military & infrastructure ASAPWe gotta'.But shit, we're going to need to re-tame or genocide the Blue Hazaar, aren't we?As for the AI core... Seriously? Come on, please, let's NOT re-institute a giant suepr-AI again after Helper and now Alavis have both backfired so terribly.Ugh, what a mess.
>>5130159>Rebuild your military & infrastructure ASAPThis is why you don't let sociopaths get any amount of power in this fucking government. From now on, we need to vet and keep an eye on the people closest to the top so we never have another Ingar situation again.
>>5130166Two things I would love to see as priories for the Eoba II Administration, once we are able to get things stable again:>Mental health services>Analyzing and revamping the Supreme Leader selection processWe need to not produce neurotic quasi-aristocrats anymore.
>>5130159>Rebuild your infrastructure ASAPThe people are holding us together, we need to hold them together.>Use SchoonAI as an interim master system
>>5130159>Rebuild your military & infrastructure ASAPIf possible>Establish communications with the Xin colonyWe need to ensure this mess is contained diplomatically while we're rebuilding. Next scientist leader we get, we have him make the AI and make sure it isn't fucked with until the next scientist leader comes along.
>>5130159>Rebuild ASAPInfrastructure first, military later, since when the people is full of patriotic fervor, the military part comes easier.Also this makes me think of a decentralized AI network of sorts to prevent these kinds of things in the future. Each colony, station etc have their own master AI that work together with other master AIs, but have no control besides their own territory. That way when one went rogue, the entire Hegemony AI network isn't that badly affected.
>>5130159Callback to thread 1 and make a vow to rebuild the hegemony, then>Rebuild your military & infrastructure ASAP>Establish communications with the Xin colonyWe are just a child and need all the support we can get. Failure will hurt us, but our reputation isn't worth near as much as the hegemony as a whole so we may as well try. If possible we should watch a ton of Talacents old speeches before we announce this and try to copy his style. We probably aren't the ruler the hegemony needs right now, but we are the one it has. Talacent seems like a good ruler to call back to as we start our rule since he was well liked and we are a clone of his right hand man.
>>5130165I have a feeling the Orange Haazar might need to be re-tamed, but the blue ones are less likely to go 'feral'. No need for genocide as long as they still serve the Hegemony.
>>5130159>Commission a new master AI that can scour out any remaining Alavis cores or viruses
>>5130188Changing my vote to this. I'd almost forgotten about the Vows. It's a bit early in the reign, but better then never using it at all.
>>5130159>Rebuild your military & infrastructure ASAP
>>5130187I say we slave the AI to whoever wares the Hegemonic Amulet, and have a kill switch tied to the current leaders lofe force. Decentralization will only encourage a devolution of power and authority from the Hegemony, and thus a divergence from its culture. That we cannot allow.Emergency backup AIs may be alright, but only if we can ensure their loyalty to the Hegemony once activated, not local leadership.>>5130188Not much need for a vow, since we already have great patriotism for our cause. We should save it for when our cultural or territories come under attack by a foreign power, as will undoubtedly be the case in this crisis.
>>5130159>Commission a new master AI that can scour out any remaining Alavis cores or virusesThis is literally the core system we need, I hope it was worth it for you moralfags.
>>5130165>>5130169AI cores are the foundational technology to our entire system, it's people who keep pushing for moralfaggotry and ignoring that we are a eugenic totalitarian state are leading us to ruin.Killing Agora was stupid and killing Ingar was stupid, was the lives of two clones worth all this destruction?
>>5130159>>5130187 + 1, but also supporting >>5130211 for saving the vow
>>5130226I agree, it was fucking retarded. The only silver lining was the patriotic sentiment of our people. It's only a shame that it came at such a heavy price.
>>5130211>>5130231Vow gives us an extra action which we desperately need right now. It will take years to do each of these and now that we're known on a galactic scale, we have little time to spare. We need our infrastructure back and losing Xin would be a major blow to the hegemony, especially since it has the worm on it. The AI network may be a problem but we need to prioritize and act fast.
>>5130235If it gives us an extra action, them I'm all for it. We need to get that damned worm on-side to prevent any diplomatic shenanigans.
>>5130159>Rebuild your military & infrastructure ASAPInspiring as fuck. Things are going to be bad, BAD for a generation, maybe two, but this will become part of our founding mythology.
>>5130211Decentralization is only for the AI network, government is still the same monolithic Hegemony. I think this can work.
>>5130159Also HOLY SHIT I just realized, if Agori went ahead with giving jaxtians false dates-of-death that would've been leaked when Ingar's failsafe went off. That would've shattered the Hegemony. Shit fuck that was a good call. Also proof that Agori wasn't that bad of a Supreme Leader when you really think about it.
>>5130280The AI network has significant and unique administrative and cultural capabilities that can't be replicated with the biological elements. Decentralizing the AI networks will have a fracturing effect on central culture and governance, allowing locals to develop a separate cultural identity and governance system, which will eventually need to be dealt with by force or the whole Hegemony start to crumble and decay with internal divisions.I can accept limited Emergency AI at a local level, to only be powered on and utilized in a crisis and programed to override order contrary to the Supreme Leader, but the only fault in our centralized AI are the biological elements, the monkeys we put in charge of creating and running the core AI system. There loyalty to the Supreme Leader must be beyond a shadow of a doubt, especially if it isn't the Supreme Leader creating and maintaining the AI himself. There are many loyal overqualified patriots out there willing to assist, and if that fails then we raise, train, and indoctrinate such qualified loyalists to maintain the AI system, to prevent sociopaths from using AI as an avenue for power.>>5130308Culture and tradition is our main safeguard against traitorous elements. We'd do well to remember that if it comes between special interests and the people, choose the people. Cultural integrity and patriotism, that will be our bulwark against our enemies, foreign or domestic.
>>5130226Ingar would likely have made his play when Agori stepped down, no matter what, if he was still in position and the spot didn't come his way. Indeed, triggering it early probably prevented an even worse crisis, such as Ingar having 8 years to implement the rewiring of all our craft under the pretence of a 'new communications system' to ensure that his eventual 'AI rebellion' might be immune to the Physical countermands that at least allowed living Jaxtians to take physical control of much of the non-entirely automated equipment.
>>5130330>After all, your culture is already ruled by a totalitarian state, a flawless, immortal empire. It is merely the tools in the hands of the enemy that will bring destruction. - Vul Takar
>>5130311Methinks you're overemphasizing the importance of the AI network, and it's this overreliance that is part of the problem. If we're going with the backup route, then we must also have non-AI backups in case they're also corrupted somehow (the Baalathi's data-prion attacks come to mind).Tl;dr my argument: this crisis happened because we overrelied on our centralized AI network, which has been shown to not be immune to mortal politicking., and caused such a widespread disaster.If we decentralize/localize our AI network (but not our governmental method), we can prevent such mass disaster and instead localize the AI uprising.
>>5130337The AI network was not immune to politicking only because anons failed to keep it free from becoming political- hence the need for total loyalty to the state and the Supreme Leader among both the central AI and those who maintain it.Beyond that, I think you're unrepresentating the threat this is to the Hegemony. We are a totalitarian empire- the moment we start decentralizing our AI networks they become susceptible to local politicking instead of national interest, which will eventually tear the Hegemony apart. National interest must supersede local interest in all aspects of our society, from culture to administrative to governance and so on. Decentralizing the AI networks will turn the Hegemony from a totalitarian state into a feudal one given enough time, and that threat to the national stability and monoculture of the Hegemony cannot be tolerated.
>>5130159>Rebuild your military & infrastructure ASAPWhy were pipes used for watering crops connected to tanks of heavy metals? We need to take a look at what damage could have been prevented by segregating physical systems so a repeat incident isn't so devestating.
I hope you people remember this the next time you want to destroy jaxtian culture and society for some "cool new tech" or a slight increase in efficiency.
>>5130380Shit happens like this in real life, see Gavrilo Princip and the Black Hands. They wanted the Balkans united and free from foreign involvement... and we know where that leads.>>5130347I think our ideas are compatible. I don't see the threat in a decentralized/semi-decentralized AI network. Otherwise we get yet another widespread AI uprising scenario in the future.Here's another way to think of it: a centralized AI network is a potential rival to our Hegemony. Sure, when it is under our thumb it's no threat, but if it is managed to be subverted, it can do worse damage than an alien invasion, as we can see from Ingar's killswitch. Now compare this with a decentralized AI network. Let's say a rebellion occurs in Schoon and managed to subvert the AI there. The Schoon AI cannot wreak havoc on Jaxt or Xin, and even less if we make the AI network more granular: the rebellion might have the AI on Schoon's capital city, but the ones on the individual factories aren't subverted.Hell, if we can develop alternatives that aren't dependent on AI, such worries are trivial at best.
>>5130391The best I can offer is to create a separate, direct system for creating local information quarantines on the Supreme Leader’s decision. Anything else would would compromise nation integrity and interest.The problem with your example of local AI rebellion is that those can be contained locally without much contamination with other AI systems not already under the local network’s control. Our AI problems are directly related to the central AI Authority, which controls the other AI network under the direct authority of the Supreme Leader, akin to how the biological elements of the Hegemony operate.>Rare resources and positions of importance are given with priority to those higher on the ladder; while the Supreme Ruler is always at the top, the Jaxtians will remain above the Migrators- in the same way that all AI must bow to Helper, you will make sure that Jaxtians will always be on the top of your instellar empire.The problem is the direct subversion of our central AI, which anons were caught off-guard by Helper but allowed a third party with dubious intent to work on Alavis, which directly lead to our current predicament. Let only the Supreme Leader or those loyal he absolutely trusts not to abuse their power work directly on the central AI next time, and create a separate system of information quarantines only controlled by the Supreme Leader. Should a- heaven forbid- rebellion occur on one of our colonies, the other AI systems shouldn’t be negatively impacted. If a rebellion did occur against the Hegemony by it’s citizens, then we clearly failed our people in some tangible way, whether it be culturally or materially.I do agree that there should be non-AI alternatives and safeguards though, just in case. Make sure we upgrade them every couple of Supreme Leaders or so.Captcha be like NNNN4, it has gained sapience! Oh lord!
>Rebuild your military and infraestructure ASAP>Send reassuring messages to Xin that contact and order will be reestblished on a regular basis. keep them updated to developments.
>>5130541I second the reassuring messages. Please add those to >>5130165 (which was also me)
>>5130159>>Rebuild your military & infrastructure ASAPStarting to think all failed supreme ruler candidates, starting from Kinman II should be executed to prevent this from happening again.
>>5130159>Rebuild your military & infrastructure ASAP>>5130188+1 to the vow, God I forgot about that.
>>5130614>Executing Kimnan IIMakes no sense. We risked it all to save our little bro and best friend. If you wanted to be ruthless, should have voted to cede power to Ingar.
>>5130664Ingar killed of citizens and wrecked the Hegemony as a vengeance, he would have been an awful Supreme Ruler.
>>5130614That is absolutely retarded. How many times did those other candidates help us? Fucking Kinja was a candidate runner up, and it was only thanks to him that we were able to avoid chaos after the cloud city attackIngar was just a sociopath with too much power, which is what Vantix warned us about - neurotic rulers. Kimnan II doesn't even want to have power, too, he's just our little bro.
Thinking about it, why you think Agori choose to make his successors clones of Eoba and Kinman instead of himself, Ingar and Kinman for example?
>>5130769Who knows?We even asked the guy to run a full search. He thought he found too many candidates; not realising that was a GOOD thing - we could then have run a second sweep to weed out those with sociopathic tendencies and other latent mental issues from the top job.Instead, he put two young children in a death-game and failed to notice the third choice.
>>5130769He had complicated and lasting emotional trauma related to Eoba, and cloning Kimnan seems to have been inspired by a threat/promise Talacent (whom he admired) made.
The focus for the Hegemony in the short term will be the rebuilding of the industrial infrastructure and military capability- the colonies will have to make due on their own until then.While a vow wouldn't be unthinkable, a vow to rebuild would be an incomplete, short term goal that doesn't carry much weight. Vows may only be done on long term, difficult, dramatic goals that you wouldn't do automatically anyways. So the goals of “I will unlock fusion power by the end of my reign” or “I will eradicate all of the Baalathi scum from the universe” are loafty goals worthy of vows, but “I will rebuild the Hegemony” is not.Besides, Eoba II is still just a kid. The decentralized Hegemony officials and psychologists have examined him closely and, despite his traumatic experiences and very young age of ascension, he is a psychology healthy young man. More stress and strain will only further chance of him developing incorrectly. As of now, balancing his development and training with rulership and the hands-on experience it brings is the Hegemon's top priority.Of course- the rebuilding effort is not going easy. The effort focused on your industrial side means that most essential factories and metalworks on Schoon are back in order after a few months of effort. However, the Alavis disaster has not been ended totally. While the Alavis at home has been “turned off”, any infected core or drone continues to carry her murderous intentions. Copies of her mind stuffed in MK2 service drones and ships have fled to all corners of your solar system, constantly attacking and seeking vulnerabilities. Whenever the temporary master system is busy in its calculations, she attacks, requiring all of the master system's strength to fight off. Ingar was a genius in AI, and while your new AI's are just as good; it means you can't just “upgrade” your current equipment to deal with Alavis. It's exhausting.But a second, totally unexpected crisis strikes at the same time. Alien ships have been spotted over Schoon- no doubt striking when your are vulnerable. There are no signs of FTL hyperwave distortions, so these aliens must either be so advanced they can hide their warp drives or...The ships are actually quite weak. Basic scans seem to reveal they have no way near the energy of a fusion ship- closer to your old fission vessels. They have less total energy stored, but release it faster- exactly the same as the bioenergy batteries the Haazar use.
Some of the Haazar, all warrior-types, made use of the confusion to build ships. Alavis seemed to arm them intentionally; sending shipping containers from Schoon filled with basic ship components and Star Dynamos to the asteroid colonies- letting them touch down gently so they could be looted.The Haazar space pirates attack wherever there are vulnerabilities. They have not attacked Jaxt, since the majority of your military and defenses are stationed there, but instead attack colonies and space station whenever there is an opening. Their primary methods of attack are to release missiles filled with bio-acid, lasers to deal with defenses, and then use tractor beams to lift out valuable goods. It seems these pirates are doing this for loot- mostly stealing radioactive stores, electronics, entire shipments of (blank) AI cores before they are programmed, and tritium gas canisters. There is even rumors they are stealing loyal Jaaxtians still asleep in stasis pods for “implanting fodder” but these are largely unsubstantiated.Due to the lack of reliable long range communications, Bluey has to show up in person to report what the situation is on the Haazar asteroid base.“Your Eminence.” He explains. “...It came to a vote, your omnipotence. I had to use every trick I could to keep them- but the majority of Haazar voted not to leave during the period of weaknesses. I convinced them; though they only did it for selfish reasons- better to live here with fusion power then enslaved by somebody like the Esaal or the worms in open space...”It seems Bluey's high connection to the Haazar and loyalty to the Hegemony has managed to keep your captive population from leaving. The Alavis AI sent seditious videos and communications to the Haazar, driving the idea to leave.”...That doesn't explain the pirates, Bluey.”
Bluey practically falls to his knees. He bows in the pose of submission.“Your omnipotence... I am so, so sorry. I am so very sorry I was born. I am so very sorry I must sully your presence and your solar system with my worthless kind. My 10% Jaaxtian DNA does not make up for the 90% loathsome creature that I am- even being 1% Haazar would be unacceptable.”“The AI core manged to send convincing deepfakes and false communications- there were stories of a Haazar battlefleet on route to “free” us from our “servitude” to the great and righteous Hegemony. Those who fell for it were told they could keep whatever loot they could gather and would be further rewarded for keeping the Hegemony weak until the fleet could get here. I knew it was fake- but there was no method of convincing them. I have no authority over the Haazar, and no security force to control them. I failed you.””Bluey...”“No my almighty lord- I am no longer worthy of that name. I am the scum of the galaxy. I have failed you utterly. I am a loser- right down to DNA. Nothing in my life brings more shame and regret then being a disgusting Haazar. These pirates are my fault, my weakness. Now your noble race is under attack by barbarians; bringing us faster to our well deserved destruction. My only saving grace is that Talacent isn't alive to see me utterly fail him and his naive belief we could be redeemed. I physically could not stay in this pose long enough to properly express my submission and inferiority towards your righteous condensing gaze. Forgive this pathetic snivelling- we couldn't overcome our inherent inferiority. They, and I, deserve whatever punishment you deem worthy to give us.”>Write In
>>5131113>Forgive himIt's possible that he is right about his race but he did nothing wrong.
I feel bad for bluey, it isn't his fault that hazaar are the equivalent of russians who run bitcoin mining viruses and adopted the ideology of high school libertarians. He's been nothing but helpful to us, and it ain't really his fault that his people decided to betray us. Trying to make more of him won't work either, because his loyalty most likely comes from being raised by Talacent who's basically a saint as far as supreme leaders go.
>>5131113>"Beating yourself up isn't going to do anything. You didn't do anything wrong.">Forgive him.
>>5131113>Forgive him>Give him a gold bracelet for keeping the majority of Hazaar tame>Send him to Xin to redeem himself by spreading the good word thereWe have a whole colony of Blue Hazaar we need to make sure don't turn against us. Who better? Plus, a great act of service will make a loyal retainer like this feel better. Success, is attained, may even make him feel less self-loathing.
>>5131113Execute Bluey for being a degenerate failure
>>5131113>Forgive himHe did what he could, tried his best to keep those Haazar he could influence upon the Hegemonic path. It's definitely not worthy of a gold band, but neither is it worth punishment.The other Haazar, however...>Confirm the status of the Haazar Warriors. Did all of them go rogue? If even a single one remains in his loyal group then there might be some redemption, but if every single Warrior betrayed us...>No more Haazar youths will be allowed to transition into the Warrior phenotype. This sub-breed has demonstrated itself repeatedly as stupid and uncivilised, a slave to base individualistic urges that have been allowed to run unchecked. And will now be controlled. By Haazar science, or by our own.>>5131180We can't send anyone to Xin, we can't even talk to it again yet.
>>5131249Also,>Ask about the Esaal and 'the worms in open space'. Is he merely working from Hegemonic knowledge here, or do the Haazar hold their own insights on these species?
>Bluey, you were the first bridge between our species and the grander galaxy and you single-handedly prevented a full-scale rebellion among your people. You are a jaaxtian like no other.>We can grant the Hazaar extra liberties and benefits in exchange for cooperation, and even reduced punishments for any rebels who surrender. But we still need you to make that happen.
>>5131113>Forgive him, this has been an oversight on behalf of the hegemony to not empower our own positive actors within the Haazar community. It is time to properly install Bluey in a position of supreme authority over the Hazaar population and allow for the creation of a parallel society and subservient society. It is time to answer the question of where the Hazaar belong in the Hegemony. The goal should be over the next generations to see a complete eradication of all Red Hazaar with loyal blue Hazaar being able to partake in work within the Hegemony well suited to them.
>>5131263It's dumb to think that blue hazaar will be loyal because bluey was. Bluey was the son of Talacent and personally raised by him.
>>5131271They inherit the memories of the host along with raising them within the hegemonic system will allow us to ensure their loyalty.
>>5131113>Bluey, you do Talacent and the Hegemony a great disservice. You, and you alone, have made the majority of the Haazar under the Hegemony return to the fold, and prevented a crisis from turning into a disaster. You insult the Hegemony, your Jaaxtian heritage, and Talacent's memory by misinterpreting your heroic efforts as a reflection of your failure. Worst, you insult me and my judgement. A sepient's character is revealed in times of great crisis by his actions, and I find your character unblemished by the faults of the Haazar race. For your crimes to the Supreme Leader, I sentence you thus- your punishment is to know that you are a hero in the eyes of the Hegemony, a credit to your heritage, both Jaaxtian and Haazar, and that were Talacent alive today, he would be unashamedly proud of being proven right by you, for I share that same pride.>Rise to your feet, Bluey. We have much work that still needs to be done.
"Come on Bluey, you haven't done anything wrong-""I was BORN wrong!""Oh shut up. Keeping the Haazar main ship here and the most of them docile is good enough. The loyal Haazar will not be harmed- we'll just deal with the pirates...""Please... my lord... I am undeserving of this mercy!" Bluey can only barely squeak out the words through his rising tears- he's shivering."You've been a loyal servant to the Hegemony for a long time and its speaker among the unenlightened. You've kept many workers and resources here to help us rebuild. Thank you.""Ohhh- your omnipotence! Your kindness and mercy is limitless! Mwah mwah mwah! My lord!"He's kissing your feet now."Your Godliness, my unworthy life is yours- forever! Thank you my Supreme Lord and Master! I will never stop working for you and the Hegemony- forever a loyal servant! Mwah mwah! Thank you! One million salutes to your glory!""Bluey... this is starting to get weird."In the meanwhile, your defense forces have begun trying to set up perimeters around your planetary and moon colonies- the pirates attack fast and in small groups- too small to be easily thwarted by your space stations.With some organization; the defense against this low tech, shieldless ships improves- with one exception. The pirate crews are sometimes accompanied by a larger ship then the small skiff-like models they've been using- this ship is made of a hollowed out asteroid and is difficult to destroy with direct hits. The pirates refer to this ship as The Rock and it acts a bit as their flagship. Taking down this ship would be the last major stepping stone needed to crush the pirate "fleet".>Dig out the old Tul's Revenge to deal with it>Search the solar system with drones to find The Rock's hiding place (Risk)>Put a bounty on The Rock's pilot and crew among the Haazar pirate community- let them take care of it (Expensive)
>>5131836>Dig out the old Tul's Revenge to deal with itAnother Eoba defeats another invader
>>5131836>Search the solar system with drones to find The Rock's hiding place (Risk)
>>5131836>Dig out the old Tul's Revenge to deal with itI love chad eoba’s
>>5131836>Dig out the old Tul's Revenge to deal with it
>Eat a Danbo fruit whole scratching your butt.
>>5131836>Dig out the old Vul's Revenge to deal with itWho's Tul?
>>5131836>Tul's RevengeBut shouldn't it be "Vul", as in "Vul Takar"?
Just read this thread and it seems pretty fun. Would I be better off going back and reading the previous threads to be better informed on the context and workings of the Hegemony, or am I fine to just jump in?
>>5132170Yes, the main series is required reading. Supplemental material is highly recommended if you want to catch the higher themes and references. Make sure to subscribe to the feed and make an account for the fanwiki. You missed the deadline for this month's fan contest; Febuary will here real soon though.Update later today, hopefully.
>>5132170I'd say you could get away without reading them, but if you are liking this thread you SHOULD read them. You'll enjoy them, most likely.
>>5131836>Dig out the old Vul's Revenge to deal with it
The Tul's Revenge- no wait, the VUL's revenge, named for the Supreme Ruler. It was once the greatest weapon of your people- left in a hangar among storage material. Shameful- though fusion power ships quickly overcame this fat, double-bridge corvette in usefulness. Without time to install a new fusion drive, its fission batteries are replaced with magna-ring batteries, using the Baalathi technology, and charged up for a fight.Without knowing where The Rock hides itself between its raids, you have to wait until the next attack, and the Vul's Revenge quickly comes into action. Using its signature weapon, the Sapphire Avalanche, it easily destroys the stone shell of The Rock, breaking the ship apart and ending the pirate's reign of terror. Without their signature ship, the weaker ships of the pirates stand no chance and are quickly dispatched by auxiliary forces. Unfortunately, some of the stone shrapnel strikes and destroys the Sapphire Avalanche's focusing discs, made of uniquely large and pure lapis lazuli. While your weapon technology will no doubt replace your laser weapons sooner rather then later, this loss does feel like a loss of a unique cultural artifact and special weapon of war.In the meanwhile, the last of the pirates and a few survivors from The Rock itself, including the captain, managed to survive in a life pod. They are punished in the traditional Jaaxtian way.
The Hegemony currently encompasses about 45 billion Jaxtians. This incredible growth is partially due to the Indigo program, the massive increase if life expectancy, and the slow and steady colonization of your solar system.Jaxt has been right on the cusp of overpopulation for years now- the Ingar incident really did push you over the edge. Xin was the Hegemony's only real escape plan- and projections had it only just being terraformed in time for a mass exodus. Emergency rations and patriotism will work for the short term, but in the long term, there is just no way to sustain your population with the damage done to your homeworld's ecology. Alavis intentionally damaged the most fertile and important parts of your ecosystem- flooding farmlands by overriding dam controls and acidifying others with chemical dumps. It is possible to heal most of it, or use soil enrichment to create new farmlands while abandoning old ones, but doing so will take time you don't have.The simple truth is there are too many mouths to feed. The Hegemony is full of entertainers, artists, programmers, and high tech space radio operators. These people will always be back in line when you can't get enough food to feed everyone.As the Supreme Ruler, you have to grapple with reality. The solutions to this problem aren't pretty.The first is to begin supplementing food rations with biomass. Anything that can be processed- weeds, sewage, dead Jaxtians, pets, worms, algae... all spun up in industrial centrifuges and made into food cubes or biosludge. While your technicians assure you that this will be 100% safe to consume, it is a bygone conclusion that one of the Alavis viruses will “leak” where this super food comes from. It is pointless to try and hide it- it will be massively unpopular. You exist in a position of privilege, and will never be forced to consume it, but the idea of eating it disgusts you. You'd be making everyone else eat it- possibly for decades or longer.The second solution would be to increase the number of individuals being put into long term stasis. Order Schoon to produce a massive number, billions, of stasis pods and start storing excess population for later. Doing so would have a huge negative effect to your GDP- as those people won't be working or producing anything at all, only draining a negligible amount of power. Of course, the idea of keeping people in stasis for a century would be pretty unpopular too. They'd wake up to a totally different Supreme Ruler, all their friends and families dead or geriatric- you would have to bribe a lot of them to do it, plus the sheer cost of producing that many stasis pods would make it expensive.The third and final solution is a good old fashioned purge- starting with the least desirable and moving up. Good for the eugenic program too. Massively unpopular, of course. We're stuck with bad and worse here.>Biocube food rationing>Mass Suspension (Expensive)>Purge (Unpopular)
>>5133637So we're stuck with feeding people literal garbage, paying people a fuck ton of money to go to sleep and lose all the family and friends, or killing people on masse. >Biocube food rationing It's either that or a purge, we're probably gonna need the money later for future rebuilding. The most we can do is just be blunt about it (since hiding it is pointless due to the virus) and hope our people keep their chins up. It's that or killing billions in cold blood. You decide.
>>5133637>>Purge (Unpopular)We're way overdue for a cleanup and refinement of the genepool.
>>5133637>Purge (Unpopular)Biocube is probably not going to work once they know that it's literal garbage, mass suspension is expensive and would be a massive headache for our successor and a purge would be very unpopular but on the other wouldn't really cause other problems (we have a functional military again) and could make things normal the soonest.Eoba II caused this, not for wrong reasons IMO but he should still shoulder the responsability of doing what must be done for the good of Hegemony even if that makes him a dark Supreme Ruler in its history.
>>5133637>Biocube food rationingWith the addition of us eating it too. Regularly and publicly. It will help ease the transition to it and hopefully make the populace more ok with it. We should try to put as much artificial flavor in it as possible to make it easier to eat.
>>5133637>>5133683+1This is just part of dealing with the consequences of our actions and not kicking the can down the road. It sucks but I would argue it's better than compounding this problem in the future while also worsening our economic condition, and purging Jaxtians is unthinkable. If anything, we should be purging the other subservient races first.
>>5133637>>Biocube food rationing
>Biocube foodYes, time for us to eat the sludge as well
>>5133683Supporting.>>5133637>Biocubes, and eat them to show solidarityWe caused this because we couldn't sacrifice our substandard little brother. Who are we to tell otehr people to abandon their family members, or accept their death? These people rallied against all odds for us. We must repay them.Soft? maybe. But ruthlessness is one thing; hypocrisy is another.
>>5133972+1 to this, also tell people where it comes from before Alavis leaks it.
>>5134012Yeah, hiding it will be fruitless (and will show us in a bad light). At least trying to spin it into a positive or at least less-awful way would be better in the long term.
>>5133683Supporting this. We will be open that this is horrible stuff to prevent Alavis leaks exposing a 'lie', and also take some of it ourselves. No lies, no obfuscation; just the reality that this is horrible but necessary for the moment.And get these entertainers, artists and programmers working to justify why they're not getting purged. The entertainers and artists can make stories, shows and songs placing all our troubles on 'Ingar the Individualist'. And don't the programmers have a new AI to work on?
>>5133972>supportingAlso supporting announcing the source as well >>5134012 so that Alavis can't spin this against us.Additionally, use as much non-computerized methods of sourcing and making it, we can't risk letting Alavis putting poison in these cubes.
>>5134012+1It can be probably made to be less horrible if we add some flavor. They're cheap, and seeing real life, can make anything taste at least not completely horrible.
>>5133637>Biocube food rationing
Update in production. It'll probably be tomorrow, sorry.
You have decided to embrace biocube food rationing- with such widespread damage to your planet's farming industry and supply chain, this is the only method of keeping your people fed- and working to rebuild. You also decide to eat some of this... material yourself, live on air. If any being in your society didn't need to eat this it would be you; but the difference between a boss and a leader is to lead by example...You sit down at a table, live on air, televised to the nation. Such archaic technology can only broadcast “live” without predictive AI editing and improving the footage; the AI network is still too damaged to be used. You are presented with a hunk of the biocube- and taking your implement, you carve off a corner and put it in your mouth. You visibly retch as you force it down.”This is fucking horrible.”The filming crew is stunned. You take another piece, and silently eat it without complaint.As it turns out, your reaction to the foodstuff was very beneficial. The sort of grim and stoic determination you had to consuming the awful stuff was exactly the sort of attitude your citizens are expected to have during such hard times- and the gesture is appreciated. Another factor you don't quite yet understand is the fact that you are still pretty “cute”. The slip up becomes a viral sensation among the women of the Hegemony; equating the most important and powerful person in their society as their own kids being fussy over eating their vegetables.Perhaps when you're older and the new AI network is made, you'll have that clip locked away and censored. Will save you some future embarrassment.With the new Biocube technology approved; several basic flavors are designed and the biomass centrifuges are assembled. While this technology could be miniaturized and put into individual homes for use by families; larger community-sized drums are instead what is issued. You will have slightly less food waste with these, and you can also use them as a way to enforce the rationing laws- those who don't obey won't eat, after all. The Jaxtians descend like locusts; everything from trash, weeds, corpses, pets, plastics, and even clothing can be broken down into some form of organic matter for use in the machines. You also make a law that requires all meals or snacks to have at least some of the Biocube, and given the fact that food waste is promptly made illegal and penalized severely, even high class workers of the Hegemony and your inner circle still make it a part of their daily meals.
Despite the devastation and decreases in quality of life- keeping your population growing is important to balancing your budget and reclaiming critical brainpower resources that were lost during the Alavis crisis. Science is, naturally, at a standstill in the reclamation effort- at least on Jaxt.The culture and government of the Hegemony has also changed somewhat subtly. There has been a rising wave of authority in the aftermath of the crisis- luxuries, free time, and resources are being more tightly controlled. But the AI network is taking time too. You are at the unenviable position of needing more control then ever, but having less automation and oversight to actually accomplish this control. The vast majority of Jaxtian citizens, naturally, obey- and morale is still pretty high, though the humdrum of life under so many little restrictions and with so little good news of conquest on the frontiers of space are staring to wear down the people a bit.At the same time; the lack of government control in the form of AI has meant many openings for criminal and underground activity. Alavis destroyed the entire centralized banking system- deleted and scrambled records and logs of transactions. The money of every citizen was lost or at least inaccessible for a time- your digital economy naturally collapsed instantly. Physical currency had to be produced- and with that came an entire black market. The trading of luxuries, “real food” merchants, and illegal services for anti-social behavior.People are profiting, in both ways, from this period. Many citizens were asked (or required) to grow food or other necessities. Many mothers are assigned worker uniforms to sow their buttons on, community washing and cleaning services take care of jobs once assigned to laborers- who are too busy rebuilding torn asphalt and pushing wheeled vehicles out of the ditches that Alavis drove them into.Over the next five years, the situation in Jaxt slowly improves, and you have grown quite a lot too. Not to brag, but with the combination of your young start and extended lifespans- it is an inevitability you could be one of the most experienced Supreme Ruler in history at some point in your reign. Kimnan II has grown similarly- the top of his class in flight school, but he doesn't try to crush all the old records like the previous one did.
Finally- your science teams have had enough time to create a powerful emitter and a computer capable of Hyperwave signals- it is finally time to check in on the Xin colony!You are greeted by a cheery Alavis- a bit of a fright, but she explains that when communication was lost, her predictive circuits kept the base safe and secure against the later viruses from Ingar- as she suspected a catastrophe must have hit your homeworld. The Xin colony has been going through a rough time- almost as rough as on Jaxt. After the last shipment sent from Xin arrived, roughly four months after the catastrophe, the colony was left to fend for itself. Beyond pressing the ships and crew into work- gathering water and nutrients from Xin's vast pink oceans let the station survive, though not thrive, during the isolation.The good news is that the terraforming project has been progressing on pace. The Blue-Haazar workers are still very young, but unlike Jaxtian children they have minds more similar to adults. As such, they can be useful. Amazingly, they can indeed survive on the planet's surface without space suits or any form of protection- though they cannot travel far, as the colony is the only source of food and shelter on the barren planet. Already, in protected canyons, floodplains, and places protected from the wind and the rain, sparse grasses have been planted, earthworms seeded into the soil, and the colony's waste was used as fertalizer. The creation of the biosphere is going to take a very long time, but a living soil, capable of trapping moisture, is the critical first step.As explained by the colonies manager- the Ambassador Worm has spent this time communicated with others of its kind around the galaxy- and introducing you to the local neighborhood. He also says that the ambassador worm has made it clear to your galactic neighbors that you have staked your entire local cluster underneath your empire's banner already- passage through uninhabited systems is allowed by your rival empires, but not colonization. He seemed to have paid for himself already- if his price wasn't so steep.The bad news is that the worm has eaten many people on the colony- the colony master has been forced to feed it. He explains he had no choice- ordered to pay this worm's upkeep and with no new shipments of livestock was impossible. Station crew had to be given up. He choose Blue-Haazar at first, but eventually moved to nonessential and low ranking Jaxtian crew! The sacrificed were sent into the worm's chamber to be devoured alive. It was either that, or defy a direct order from the previous Supreme Ruler and incur the worm's wrath...What are you going to do, Supreme One?>Punish the Colony Supervisor>Send shipments and continue the terraforming project on schedule>Order the worm killed>Other (Write In)
>>5136180>Send shipments and continue the terraforming project on scheduleThat sucks but the Colony Supervisor did what was necessary and killing the Worm is a bad idea because his kind would tell other FTL civilizations to blacklist us.
>>5136180>Send shipments and continue the terraforming project on schedule
>>5136180>Send shipments and continue the terraforming project on scheduleSadly, we can't (yet) get rid of the worm, and there wasn't any other way to feed it, which was necessary to ensure our state would go on. If we pissed off the worm, he would probably get the other states to come and murder us while we're re-buildingOn another note, we should really try to work on getting another AI back.
>>5136180>Send shipments and continue the terraforming project on scheduleDamn, tough call for the colony supervisor but not an unreasonable one.
>>5136180>Send shipments and continue the terraforming project on schedule>Tell Kinman we grant permission for him to grow or make himself a new arm again, and to once again display again the golden band he earned.
>>5136180>>Order the worm killedShouldn't there be some not so dickish worm somewhere in the galaxy?
>>5136204Unlikely, those worms are all ancient psychics who are basically untouchable because everyone needs them. If we kill one, they'll blacklist and completely fuck us over.
>>5136180>Send shipments and continue the terraforming project on schedule>Tell Kinman we grant permission for him to grow or make himself a new arm again, and to once again display again the golden band he earned.>>5136204>some not so dickish wormIt seems to just be enacting its biological and social prerogative: it is a diplomat which makes its 'living' by being a go-between and PR agent, and it needs to eat living animals to survive,
>>5136214I think that they are a sort of hivemind, our worm said that it has millions of eggs despite being sterile and smiled when Kinman said that it already meet it (probably in FTL space).Something in their body is probably a node of a biological FTL "computer", that's probably how they communicate.
>>5136180>>5136189Also adding that one to my vote, Kinman was always the best person between the three candidates of that generation and him losing his arm was just another of Agori's outbursts.>Tell Kinman we grant permission for him to grow or make himself a new arm again, and to once again display again the golden band he earned.
>>5136180>Send shipments and continue the terraforming project on schedule>Tell Kinman we grant permission for him to grow or make himself a new arm again, and to once again display again the golden band he earned.He earned it by somehow being the least neurotic candidate.
>>5136234>>5121838>While a simple creature may not technically need a central nervous system, the fact this creature is intelligent and has language, knowledge, and memory indicates that it should have some form of biological computer system- it just seems totally absent. This could only mean this creature's intelligent is somehow from another organ you can't identify as a brain or is held 'elsewhere'.Nevermind, the worms may be mindless remotes for a biological computer or entity somewhere.
>>5136180>Send shipments and continue the terraforming project on schedule>Tell Kinman we grant permission for him to grow or make himself a new arm again, and to once again display again the golden band he earned.Let's not kill the worm, don't want to get fucked over by every other galactic empire out there.
>>5130165Both of those ais only turned evil because of the minds of desires of living monkes
>>5136180>Send shipments and continue the terraforming project on schedule>Tell Kinman we grant permission for him to grow or make himself a new arm again, and to once again display again the golden band he earned.>Communicate with Alavis about the creation of Hydra and a safe way to reimplement her into the Hegemony
>>5136180We should try to open ourselves up to the galaxy to offset the losses of Evil Alvalis. Let the worm earn it's keep, we need advanced technology and even foreign aid for this monketarian crisis.Use some of those entertainers in the back of the line to do a monke live aid. Export monke art and culture to space and use the profits to buy shit to deal with the logistics crisis. We are eating literal garbage, surely some alien Celine Dion type will throw us some bones.We can't put pride over the health of our people. We are basically space North Korea at this point we need a full scale Meiji style innovation ( to pardon the mixed metaphor)>Have the worm implore the Galactic community for aid, trade and technology (also compensate the estates of all the cannibalized monke and hazar and give them posthumous gold bands for their sacrifices)
>>5136552And we will always have living monkes, with minds and desires.
>>5136585Right so the issue isn't AI bad, it's that we don't have a system of redundant security measures. it is too easy for our ai systems to be compromised by one bad faith actor.We need to have an oversight system of multiple monkes so that one deranged genius can't try to take over the hedgmony
>>5136180>Send shipments and continue the terraforming project on schedule>Tell Kinman we grant permission for him to grow or make himself a new arm again, and to once again display again the golden band he earned.>Tell the Worm if he can do us a solid on wing-manning us some hot intergalactic babes, we'll call it even for eating most of the colony. Hell, if he does a great job on that, he can eat the occasional red Haazar for his services.
>>5136180>>Send shipments and continue the terraforming project on scheduleAt least they have enough sense to send in the Hazaars first
>>5136651Also good, but I'd argue more compartmentalized AI would be a good idea in case of rampancy or an organized coup.
If we have the opportunity, we could research alternative forms of computing like the ones of the Haazar and Balathi, they may have less problems with centralization and decentralization and using at least a bit of these may make our AI network more resistant to viruses (like how diverse agriculture is better against diseases than monocultures).
>>5136927Clever notion! I like it.
You decide to continue shipments to Xin- you aren't happy about what has happened, but nobody is directly to blame. The colonization efforts on the planet and your ambassador are more important then a few low ranking Jaxtians and underdeveloped Haazar...As it turns out, Ingar's brilliance did turn out in your favor. The killswitch he used and the technology it was based on is being figured out now- the quantum entanglement communication technology. By using an array of entangled particles, it is possible to send messages instantly, at any distance, in the physical universe. While no law of physics is technically violated, it IS FTL communication, and without needing any Hyperwave generators or sensors. Technically, this means that you can send messages to ships and starbases without needing to use Hyperspace at all- bypassing the place where worms and other parties could detect or intercept your messages. Secret communication is extremely important to any military or scientific state- especially one as authoritarian as your own. You immediately begin commissioning all new ships and starbases outfitted with these communicators, though you will still need to rely on “public” hyperspace messages for things like communicating with other space empires.You also decide to ask your worm about diplomacy, or the chance for foreign aid. He reveals he spent his time in discussion hiding the fact your species was undergoing a crisis at all; he “put up a curtain” so to speak. Because of the lack of interstellar messages sent by Xin or Jaxt, it was easy for it to pretend business was going as usual. This helped prevent a hostile power from taking advantage of your position- though asking for aid now would be a bit suspicious. You guess you can't get angry at the worm- it was acting as you would have wished during a sudden communication blackout...”Welcome back to Jaxt Prime, Kimnan.”“Oh, thank you your lordship! It feels nice to be back home. And I must thank you for your reinstatement of my golden band- and for the new artificial arm! You really are too kind.””Think nothing of it- I should be thanking you for taking time out of your retirement to help train Kimnan II. Because of all this nonsense happening here, we have had no time to train him in Hyperspace. I need you in top shape.”“Yes your Justice- I am happy to help! Come Kimnan- err, other Kimnan? Little Kimnan. Let's go get you acquainted with a HCDFV's cockpit.”
You've spent so many years of your early reign just building back that damage caused by the last... in the end, you've have to fully compute what has happened. You can't deny it is your fault- you were selfish, you didn't want your brother or yourself to die. Perhaps if you could go back, maybe you would have done something different. Maybe just beg Agori for your life, or the life of your brother. Maybe just accept your death as an indigo- a clone, disposable, built for a purpose...No no, that's not it. Agori was the one who put you in that situation. Truly, it was his fault that the whole thing happened. Your choices are only based on the choices of anothers actions first, and their actions based on the actions of another, spanning back since the dawn of time. You can only move forward in time, never backwards, and hope that what has happened leads to greater returns in the future.Now you have to focus on the present- you are nearing the end of your training and want to be in a strong position. Your worm seems to have worked out securing your local cluster of stars- of which only Xin is under your direct control. The exploration and colonization of the rest of the cluster should focus your efforts! This disaster set you back, but it is time to build back stronger then before!And speaking of which, it is finally time to make the critical decisions regarding the AI network. As a critical component of your entire society, from government to military intelligence to infrastructure; it is too expensive and wide reaching to replace your entire computer system with something new. Changing from electronic circuits into gas-powered machines, for example, would require restarting everything from scratch- creating the simplest diodes and computers, to the first AIs who can evolve, iterate until you create the vast systems you have now. It would take centuries! The second problem is that your AI some amount of centralization because of the method of which your society functions. The Supreme Ruler must retain control for his rule to be Supreme.The truth is that the Alavis crisis actually shows you a lot of potential for weaponizing it. If the Supreme Ruler could order the AI to do what she did on her own, it would essentially mean he could shut down any rebellion, destroy or cripple any wayward colony- a malevolent AI basilisk under your control is a tool like any other; a weapon to be exploited.
But how do you avoid an Ingar situation from wresting control from the rightful heir? That's the challenge. So far, you can think of three concepts-The first is to return to a singular AI structure, likely an Alavis offshoot again. But this time, give control to the Supreme Ruler based on an unbreakable bond- a quantum entanglement of part of his brain with the computer network itself. This concept would be breaking tradition, as your people have traditionally rejected computer-brain interfaces; and with the entire Helper conspiracy having being leaked to the public a few years ago during the Alavis rampage, it would certainly have a certain negative connotation. But you can't fault its security. It would prevent the situation that happened during your ascension from happening again though- the new AI would only totally obey whoever was entangled with its computer core- so the death of a Supreme could activate a lockup protocal until the next was properly inducted.The second is to use a decentralized AI. This would be a combination of three- or as you have coined it, a “Threemind”. The threemind is three separate AI systems. Three is used as if one becomes rogue or compromised, the other two will be able to gang up on and defeat the final AI. Each system could be programmed differently, or even developed from different computer technologies in the future, working together intelligently- though never as efficient as just one mind. No individual in the Hegemony, except the Supreme Ruler, would have control over more then one at any given time- and you imagine that The Threemind would be as capable as the previous AI network, just separated into three chunks.The third concept is to use a singular AI again, but this time, give it more free will and the ability to ignore orders based on a set of robotics laws or ethical constraints. This could lead to HUGE problems in the future based on the rules the AI is given, but at the same time, it could work in any capacity- everywhere from an individual ship AI or starbase will be protected by this failsafe. You could have the ability to allow the Supreme Ruler to override this restraint, but doing so would just allow someone who tricks the AI into accepting them as the Supreme to just circumvent it, so it isn't a perfect solution either.There is also, naturally, the option of doing nothing. Ingar and Agori were blips, distortions in the grand tapestry of the Hegemonic history. Many centuries have passed without a succession crisis like this- there is no reason it has to happen again or in an equally devastating way. This is the perfect opportunity for an infrastructure change; while changing the AI later is always possible, this will be the most efficient time to do it- what is your choice?>Entanglement with the Supreme Ruler's mind>Threemind>Ethical AI>Do Nothing>Other (Write In)
>>5136200Oh, one more idea:>Start up a farm-dome or similar for animals. With some breeding livestock on Xin we might be able to keep a sustainable foodsource for the worm even if the link goes down again.
Should we trust XinAlavis or replace her? I got a baaad feeling...
>>5137060>Threemind and be sure to replace XinAlavis.
>>5137060>>Other (Write In)Keep it as it is but give Supreme Rulers a final override code that could countermand any order, wipe the AI's memories and restore it to a previous "safe state"
>>5137060>Entanglement with the Supreme Ruler's mindBetter us getting brain implants than AI becoming inefficient or- Hegemony forbid- ethical. Control is the only way to ensure Ignar or a new problem doesn't crop up from this decision.Make the AI a female again as well, it was a smart design choice.
>>5137060>Threemind>Invest in Hazaar and Balathi computing for long-term redundancyEntanglement would be fine and I don't think that it's similar to the whole Helper thing but Threemind is also a good opportunity to become resilient against hacking, that would take something like 3-5 supreme rulers but someday we could make two of the minds hybridized with hazaar and balathi computers so it's unlikely that a terrorist or alien virus could take down the three minds.
>>5137060>>ThreemindThis will be immensely useful. For future upgrades we would bring them down to replace one by one rather then risking everything on a single upgrade/reboot and some downtime. There would never again be 'single moments' of extreme network vulnerability.Where we need the greater efficiency a single mind would bring (such as combat) for small engagements we could just bus the squadron onto a single system for the duration for maximum coordination; for larger ones each system could be delegated a specific responsibility.
>>5137079Strongly support this solution.>>5137062And I like this.>>5137060Locking in my vote.
Just FYI, all a future!Ignor needs to do is subvert just two AIs or just subvert the one and sabotage the others. Mindmelding with the AI ensures no one will fuck with it without us having full control of said AI.
>>5137060>ThreemindOne based on Xin-Alavis, one developed with Haazar tech, and the third with another method. Dunno about Baalathi computing tho, might need to look into other possible avenues. Maybe ask the Migrators?
>>5137119The Migrators don't have technology I think.
>>5137124Might not hurt to check in on 'em sometime soon, though.
>>5137124Yeah, but they might be excellent programmers or something.Perhaps the Baalathi data prion thing could be implemented as an antivirus of sorts - laying dormant in the network and activates to erase or mess with any subversion or rampancy attempts.
>>5137060>Entanglement with the Supreme Ruler's mindAlso this is a good idea >>5137062 +1
>>5137119Relying on foreign tech for AI is retarded, we'd only be opening ourselves up for foreign enemies to take advantage of the vulnerabilities in the AI that their most familiar with. What if we get into a two front war with both foreign nations that know how our AI works? At least homebrew AI won't give our foreign enemies any advantages.
>>5137148How would they know anything? Neither the Haazar and Baalathi were members of the FTL galactic community.The point with having three AIs is that you need to subvert at least two, nobody is going to be familier with both Jaaxtian and Haazar computing while if an alien species with superior computer skills has a similar technology as us then they will subvert all three if they are all 100% Jaaxtian.You could develop 2 new types of AIs but jaaxtian scientists are probably not going to invent two viable computing techs completely unlike our own and not doing it from scratch means that it would take something 100~ years instead of 300~.
>>5137148The idea of a three-mind system is that it will be incredibly difficult to hack all three minds. Eventually having it so a third of each is fully or partly rooted in different technology just makes this even trickier for enemies. A two-front Hazaar/Balaathi war would still leave us with one Jaxtian-only mind to run our systems.
>>5137153The Worm knows much. Who's to say that there isn't a similar security breach?>>5137155The whole premise of Threemind is for two AI to be the third rouge one. If two AI go rouge, the third AI is already fucked.
>>5137159The Worms just want to be parasitic ambassadors, and if knowing a lot about hyperspace communication is enough to hack a computer system then we'r3 fucked not matter what if they want to destroy us.If the three AIs are different then hacking more than one is almost impossible, the three being the same isn't going to make them more secure.
>>5137079Me like. Support.
>>5137060>ThreemindAlso supporting >>5137062 and >>5137079
>>5137079+1Entanglement with the supreme rulers is a stupid idea - we know that it can lead to less than scrupulous leaders gaining power and abusing it. Ingar was an candidate - if it wasn't for the fact that Eoba II existed, he would have gained power.Furthermore, we should not ever use cybernetics linked to brains. Our effort to maintain tradition has worked to our advantage every single time, why risk more of it?
>>5137060Threemind seems the safest option.The entanglement with a supreme doesn't stop a Helper style event from happening.A sentient ai is functionally just putting all the ai power into one person's hands again, that person being the ai itself.Threemind allows checks and balances where you can have multiple entities keeping eachother stable. We could even have one AI for each species of the empire at one point>Threemind
>>5137060>Entanglement with the Supreme Ruler's mind
>>5137115Or it ensures a sufficiently advanced hacker has a perfect puppet. Damn, was Dune right about AI?
The Hegemony is in a unique position- two hostile, foreign alien races fell upon you and broke their backs. From their pieces, you have new technology. The Baalathi and Haazar computer systems, foreign, but capable of coming together into something unique.You will have three minds. The first will be the new Alavis, built on your traditional AI systems. This computer uses circuit boards and electricity to function. Its main advantage is its cheap cost and scaleability. The more circuits you create and cram into one processor, the better it will be, and all it requires to build is some basic silicons and rare earth minerals. However, this mind will be very literal, like a computer is, making it ideal for simple tasks and raw calculation. You can make this the workhorse of your minds, ideal for starships and drones.The second mind will be based on Haazar technology. The Haazar argon-gas system creates a biochemical “brain” of computing. It requires a significant amount of argon to create new “neural” pathways, but is incredibly stable because of its composition- you wonder if this has something to do with the Haazars unnatural longevity. Regardless, the main advantage of this mind will be repetitive tasks; as like a biological brain this computer becomes more efficient and uses less energy the more it performs the same function. Instead of trawling the galaxy for sources of argon to scavenge or scam from their rightful owners, as the Haazar did, you'll build it right here in your home system- on Max! Distance will be no concern, your argon will be basically unlimited, and you will qunatum entangle this computer to connect everything in the galaxy under your control- this will be your communications and navigation mind.The third and final mind is the most mysterious- based on Baalathi technology. This avenue is mostly unexplored in computing, but has a lot of promise. The Baalathi technology involves a sphere array with gasses of different concentrations; even a simple “computer” could hold millions of permutations. This computer is slower, but more capable of lateral and informed thinking then traditional computer methods- one day in the future your scientists will be amazed when this type of computer answers their status quiry with a metaphor. The cost of the gasses and the size of each computing unit is significant enough to matter wherever space is at a premium, such as on starships, so you'll reserve these for space stations and planetary bases- these will be your simulation and prediction machines.While you have little reference; you have a hunch that a joint effort of computing and science has never before been attempted, at least in your corner of the galaxy. You have a strong suspicion that if you manage to create this Threemind, it will be one of the greatest AI systems in the galaxy, and may be the critical advantage your people need in the centuries to come.
Of course, creating the Threemind will be very difficult, and it will take a long time. Making a vow to create it would be unthinkably ambitious, as it will probably take longer then your reign to actually complete, so instead you set the Threemind as a long term empire goal.To help you in this effort- the captive Haazar population is put to work. Bluey hand picks a group of the most loyal and useful Haazar he can to help teach your scientists their technology and, in the meanwhile, assures you it will work wonders for the Hegemony. Of course, there is a small security risk of the Haazar being able to mess with your computer system- but the entire point of the Threemind is redundancy and safety. Even if the Haazar are able to control one mind, the other two will be able to overcome it. You also begin the construction of something very special just underneath the surface of Max's outer atmosphere- the station that will one day be quantum entangled across the whole galaxy with one powerful mind...It's time to take stock of your Galactic neighborhood. Your worm advisor has collected useful data and arranged mapping software to be presented to you. You now see more clearly what is going on- as it turns out, you're a small fish in a big pond. Around you is unclaimed “no mans land”- your own star cluster, as well as the star clusters where the first Baalathi signals and later the Haazar originated from. Beyond those are larger space empires- the closest being the Esaal and another faction... the Consortium.”You want me to meet them!? I'm not even wearing my robes yet!”“Come now, little Emperor, these guys are important...”The Consortium is a collection of alien races which have come together under one trade and economic federation- with a joint military force for combined threats. Unlike the little alien species you've encountered here and there- these are a conglomerate of many species over a large territory. They are large and powerful; and every race is headed by a worm advisor, which keeps them connected together.”I am a designated speaker for the Consortium. May your ventures be profitable, Supreme Ruler of Jaxt.”
You are Eoba Garastra II and are officially instated as the Supreme Ruler of the Jaaxtian people. You've been the Supreme Ruler for a while, but only now are you finally wearing your imperial robes, the symbol of your office and position.You have chosen a light blue for your color- for patriotism. Considering you are the first Indigo Supreme Ruler, and you came into power during and around a great crisis, it seemed to fit. The other note? The white diamond. Around your neck, the white diamond symbolically represents wearing the bones of a defeated rival; and is only worn by Supreme Rulers who killed to gain their position.It has been another five years. During this time, your people have mostly recovered from the economic downturn and infrastructure loss of the Alavis crisis. Your current placeholder AI is powerful enough to defend itself against her attacks, and with the biocube food production in place, your people are secure in fed. Your population has even mostly recovered. Things are more spartan for the people, but you have the security of the AI network's secrecy again. Your citizens are cowed into submission for now, though they trust and believe in the goals of the Hegemony's spiritual purity less after this succession crisis. Your approval rating is well below Talacents, though it'd be hard to match such a spineless people pleaser in that regard...You've spent the entire early part of your reign reacting to your situation, and fixing the mistakes of the past. Enough! It is time to take forward action. Where should we take the Hegemony next, your grace?>Advance your outdated military>Establish a new colony (specify system)>Improve your general technology>Hunt down dissidents and improve societal control>Contact a foreign power to see if you can make a trade>Other (Write In)
>>5138669>Advance your outdated military>Focus on establishing new capital ships and drone carriers
>>5138669>Improve your general technologyTECH TIME BABY. TIME TO SPITE THAT CANCEROUS IGNAR
>>5138669>Advance your outdated military>Hunt down dissidents and improve societal controlMake a vow to have our military be the envy of our galactic neighbors. Purge the dissidents, cure the cancer.
>>5138669>Improve your general technologyLooks like the main thing where we could outcompete the Consortium and the Esaal, and upgrading our military without upgrading our technology first is probably not a good idea.
>>5138669>>Advance your outdated military>>Hunt down dissidents and improve societal control
>>5138714Actually, is it possible to conquer both Hazzar and Baalathi before our neighbors start gobbling them up? Like, vow possible?
>>5138790Supporting this vow>>5138669>Hunt down dissidents and improve societal controlSpecifically, focus on reeducation and social controls, as well as mental health facilities that make monkes more productive and patriotic as their main goal. Let's clean up men's minds. No more Ingars. No more Agoris.>Advance your outdated militaryTo better enact that vow.
>>5138669>Other: Focus on repairing and expanding food security.And>Other: Recognize and appropriately reward some of the groups of people and individuals who made great contributions during the Alavis Crisis and Recovery period.
>>5138669>Establish a new colony (Ventuck)Begin the colonization of the Ventuck system focusing upon Ventuck II which is a habitable world with a native species. Establish a space station above the world and make contact with the inhabitants. Use our technology and power to mold their culture by offering them medicine, technology, luxuries, and entertainment in exchange for them producing Jaxtian food.This is a world full of free workers that we can transform into a bread basket for our empire. We need to act quickly and take advantage of it.
>>5138790This, if we free Haazar from the Baalathi we can at least win some loyalty out of our own Haazar population. And if we take Baalathi and fix their murderhappy gasmind, well, we could have another asset in our Hegemony.
>>5139158Vetuck IV also likely holds some unique elements being made of superheavy materials along with other mysteries.
>>5138790Didn't the worm secure us some territory already? Maybe the Haazar and Baalathi are included in that?
>>5138790>>5139226Yes.>>5137055>Your worm seems to have worked out securing your local cluster of stars- of which only Xin is under your direct control
>>5138669>Advance your outdated military>Improve your general technology
PhonepostingSeveral people have chosen two options at once without a vow- you can only perform two actions at once with a vow. Failing your vow will bring shame to your reigns legacy.>>5138714>>5138790Yes, these are possible vows.>>5138721The [i]military[/i] score of each nation includes both the military size, ships, pilots, discipline, and weapons technology. The [i]science[/i] score is more about high tech things like AI intelligence, cloning, and so on. The Esaal could not create Biofood the way you do, but their ship and weapons technology is superior to yours.>>5139226The "local cluster" does not include the Baalathi and Haazar home systems. Your local cluster is the six closest stars, four explored.The [i]Haazar[/i] homeworld is about fifty light years away.The B[i]Baalathi[/i] homeworld is about eighty light years away.
>>5139296If we're picking a vow, I'm supporting the "conquering the Haazar and Baalathi lands" one.
>>5138669>Improve your general technology
>>5138669I'd say a better vow would be to begin the conquest and colonization of our backgarden and take a vow to 'ENSURE THERE IS A JAXTIAN PRESENCE IN EVERY STAR SYSTEM OF THE LOCAL CLUSTER.'Whilst vows against the Haazar/Baalathi sound nice, all it would take is for one of our neighbours to take a key world and that vow would be beyond any fulfilling. The Ballathi are no doubt sending ships into the Esaal and getting a military response already; and the consortium are a diplomatic alliance just a single solar system away from Hazzar itself - it's not impossible they seek to bring both Haazar homeworld and species into their union.So I would say:>Establish a new colony (Andoen): Set up an orbital station from which a 'de-turreting' program can be run to start removing the auto-defences from this lush and otherwise immediately habitable world.>Hunt down dissidents and improve societal controlEnsuring that we've burned away any other criminal elements and rogue-Alavis holdouts is essential. Most particularly, TALACENTI - what terrors the rogue AI might unleash with even a slight nudge to this exoplanet making inroads into our system could dwarf every bit of damage it has already done.Also as a note - the consortium species. Are those more space monkeys we see? Are the purple ones a sub-group of Haazar
>>5139364The problem we face is, we need to prevent their AI technology being proliferated to our galactic rivals, which they will use against our Threemind. We cannot allow such an unprecedented threat to our new AI system to come about- we must expand our influence over these planets, else our foreign AI will be comprised.
>>5139377Considering that the Haaazar home system is RIGHT NEXT DOOR to the consortium, who are as strong as us in their weak fields and surpass us in their strong ones, and the Haazar have been doing their 'galactic traders' lark on a slower scale for longer then we've been a spacefaring civilisation, we probably missed the chance to stop that happening sometime back in the reign of Vantix Garastra
>>5139395It should still be attempted. We don't need our AI vulnerabilities known by rival empires.
>>5139416I agree that it should be attempted, or at least investigated. If it is possible to accomplish the 'liberation' of Hazzar then it would be a major boon. Exploring/Colonising systems between our current worlds and Hazzar (of which Andoen would I think be the first/next step) would build us staging posts toward this goal.But realistically, failure is very likely. A consortium fleet that we know nothing about could even be already underway and we wouldn't have any clue, to say nothing about what actions the Esaal and Baalathi might be having. So we cannot make it the object (or one of the objects) of our vow because the failure condition could be utterly outside our own control and such failure would leave us a legacy of shame.
You people are forgetting that we are literally on the verge of famine. We're being forced to use Biocubes because of overpopulation. We need to develop the Xin colony to ensure our people won't have to continue to eat Onions Green
>>5139158This. We need to find a way to solve our food problem. While we invest in Xin (which we will DEFINITELY need), we can also mold that planet's culture. They're so primitive that we would be able to make them into actually valuable members of the hegemony. Xenos must be maintained under careful control.
>>5139467If we do this, we should work through proxies initially - find the small regional or national powers already most in line with Hegemonic ideals and bring them into the system as proxies and clients and vassals, then grant support to these to bring the nations around them into line. We don't want to be 'the invader from the stars' for them to rally against, but instead let them conquer themselves for us.
>>5139487It's better, but at the same time, they're very primitive. We want to make them believe in the ideals of the hegemony.
>>5139467>>5139511Making them worship the Supreme Ruler would probably be the easiest way, most of them are devout monotheists.
>>5139514Worshipping the supreme ruler would end up badly, i'm fairly certain. It would be easier to mold their ideology and using the religion instead of straight up hijacking it.
>>5139464>>5139158Fine and valid points... But conquering those blasted xenos is a bolder move, can still lead to some more food along the way, and the vow allows us to advance two goals at once.
>Advance our outdated military.It will be prudent, considering the amount of new aliens around.
>>5138669>Advance your outdated military
>>5139296Well, we should probably have a vote on the vow, because we need the extra actions to get us back up to full speed. Way I see it, we need to be ambitious if we want to prevent us backsliding diplomatically and as a society.
Majority of votes support advancing the military. Votes to make a vow are roughly tied between vow and nonvow voters- and the second action of said vow is roughly tied between advancing general technology OR purging dissidents. We'll go with a vow and random coinflip to see which secondary vote is done if there are no tiebreakers; update will be in ~12 hours.
>>5140397Your intermission art is always great.
>>5140397>Vow yes>Advancing general technlogyPersonally, I would make the vow about technologically and militarily surpassing the Consortium before the end of our reign.
>>5140397>Vow yes>Hunt down dissidents and improve societal control
>>5140397>Vow yes >Advancing general technlogy
>>5140397Vow depends on the vow we make:If it's a sensible but challenging vow such as 'Obtain a Hegemonic presence in each system of the local cluster' or 'send a 'liberation' fleet to Hazzar', then vow.If the vow is incredibly implausible and depends on outside factors, such as vowing to surpass a much older and larger galactic neighbour or to conquer both the Hazar and Baalathi homeworlds, no vow.If we go for a second option,>Hunt down dissidents and improve societal controlThe 'Ingar' downtime put plenty of crime back into action and scattered rogue Alavais nodes across the system, we need to safeguard our society from parasites and predators again.
>>5140715I assume that if a vow is unreasonably challenging, it would be labeled as a long term empire goal instead, sort of like the Threeminds project.
>>5140722No, vows are specifically a reign thing and supreme rulers failing to realize them are disgraced.One of the first rulers we played was murdered by Helper and was titled as Lesser until we stopped the conspiracy and rehabilated him.
>>5140734I assume IC we wouldn't make a vow outta something impossible. Makes no sense to self-sabotage like that.
>>5140397Better to advance general technology
It is time to take your reign in stride. You have decided to make a vow- a powerful commitment to your people. With your approval ratings and the morale of your people still low after the trauma of suffering the wrath of Ingar's attempt at ultimate power- a vow would give your early reign a massive push. Failing to complete this vow will result in shame upon your reign in the annals of history. However, in exchange for a vow, you can perform two powerful actions at once.You first think that a vow to conquer the Haazar and Baalathi regions of space but... the truth is, even your ambition and confidence is shaken at the thought. Your fastest ships will need to fly for years to reach that region of space- even if you can defeat all resistance with your huge war fleet (which you will need to construct first), who knows how long a siege on a fortified system could take. You'll need to defeat and pacify all systems first. Even if your vow would be just to take the homeworlds, you'd have to make a mad dash and fight a war on two fronts, leaving yourself open, with many unoccupied systems that could act as staging areas for foes.You also have the concept of a vow to become the envy of your galactic neighbors military- that's better, but you have no idea what sort of technology or effort that may take. Being courageous is always a good thing, getting into a pointless arms race with the Esaal or Consortium is not.Even worse; there is always the chance that the large rival powers of the neighboring empires could gobble up that space before you accomplish it. At least you know they haven't already- your worm advisor assures you that your political starmap is up to date. Of course, your people aren't pedantic when it comes to vows; you wouldn't have to take every system, but if a majority are colonized by rival powers first, the vow will become impossible without a catastrophic war.In the end, you decide on a compromise. Seeing how large and influential your rivals in space are, you decide to go to the public with your speech prepared.”It is only now, in these years, that we see the true scope and scale of galactic civilization. We see empires flourishing and expanding, laying claim to foreign moons and stars; while we recover from a famine and unprecedented disaster. Despite our hardships, we are ready. It is time to advance our civilization- we will not be a backwater, hedged in by circumstance. We will be a major power of the galactic community- a force to be reckoned with. If our power be conquest, commerce, or culture- so be it! I solemnly vow that we will become a true interstellar empire and have a Jaaxtian colony on all systems of our local cluster by the end of my reign!”The people rejoice at a powerful, determined Supreme Ruler who promises so much; it has been two centuries since Qet Scholiander made such a vow. Now to deliver your promise.
With the spurring of your vow at their heels, your people get to work. Intellectualism and technology is focused on. The Hegemony has always banned anti-technology and progress movements; the recent Alavis disaster brought some of it back. However, advancement is inevitable and desirable. Todays issues with technology are trivial compared to what benefits tomorrows technology will bring- and there is no way to unlearn what has already been learned- so you must advance!Your current HCDFV class starships are general workhorse ships- similar to the original Skiff 1.0s used back in the ancient days of Vantix Garastra. Not well suited to combat, these ships rely on tiny hangars to hold fighters or convert that space to cargo holds for transportation- not well suited to either task. Hyperdrives are getting better and better, and you can finally create a more suitable ship. Alavis also says your targetting systems and shields are improved, further increasing your combat potential.Your general sciences include technology related to infrastructure and the managing of your empire. Due to the very negative connotation that the MkII drones had, associated with murderous robot rampages under Alavis, they are being replaced- and were long overdue anyway. These are MkIII drones. Each is constructed with a Azurium shell- making them capable of acting in extreme environments and much more durable. They are also equipped with quantum communication capability, as well as telescopic multitool functions. Each one is also more agile and compact then your old ones, making it much easier to ship them to new systems.Another advancement is in the medical technologies. It is a prototype of a life extension treatment.The current cause of death for over 90% of Jaaxtians is death by GPCS, due to your unnatural longevity from alien technology causing the oldest tissues in your body, which will always be your non regenerating neurons, to unravel. All Jaaxtians will suffer from this eventually if they live long enough, and currently the average will be about 100 years of age. This treatment extends that by an estimated 25 years per dose; forcing the neurons to partially regenerate. However, there is a reason it isn't being rushed out to the masses as the next big thing. The first is that it is prohibitively expensive, costing around 50 million Danbomarks to produce one dose. While a drop in the bucket for a Supreme Ruler or high ranking member of the Hegemony, there is no possible way you could inoculate a significant portion of your population with this drug. The second reason? There is a yet unexplained one in ten chance of instant death upon injection.
While looking over your newest advances; Alavis pings you with something interesting. As it is high time to replace your HCDFV class ships, Alavis lays out a new ideal size and shape for a new brand of starship.Thus far, you have only used Fighters and irregular type ships, prototypes and special cases like exploration vessels and experimental hyperdrive vehicles. However, there are a few sizes of ships that will probably be very common in the galaxy- ships of a size large enough to make maximum use of a fusion drive, with enough space to hold a crew, to be roughly aerodynamic when traveling through an atmosphere or nebula, and other such universal concerns. You've found the first “sweet spot”.You have unlocked the Frigate.Your space engineers have been at work testing and destroying empty starship hulls in your own system for practice. Generally speaking, a spaceship will be as structurally sound as its hull armor, shield battery, and computer core can possible make it. The actual shape and design of ships past a certain size, in this case, is culturally and aesthetically driven. Alavis sends you three 3d mockups of possible Frigate designs. All are exactly equivalent in terms of speed, defense, general dimensions, weapon platforms, and so on. She is just asking which one you think looks best.The artstyle choice of your Frigate will also determine the artstyle of all future ships produced by the Jaaxtian Hegemony from now on. Which one do you want your frigates to look like, Supreme Ruler?
>>5141010We can't base it on the Vul's revenge? A pity, but I guess some historic designs can't be modernised.Out of the three listed styles, I'd vote for >BAs the profile of it approaching kind of resembles the hegemonic symbol, though I quite like A as well.
>>5141010Hard choice. I like A, especially the engine design, but B has a "chunkiness" to it that is also nice for a space ship, especially when thinking about how these will scale into bigger ships. I think A would be the cooler frigate, but B would make for cooler larger classes of ship, and I value that more, so my vote is:>B
>>5141010>BIt looks cooler and more reminiscent of our earlier ship designs, though A is pretty cool too.
>>5139158Second this.I am also pro Vow to conquer at least One Alien species. That leaves us open to any of the three options to us.>Make a Vow to Conquer At least One Alien Species (My personal choice is the Ventuck)
>>5141010A. It is easier to draw and therefore will lead to slightly faster updates
>>5141006Colonisation:Xin System (50 Light Years): Inner Asteroid Belt (Heavy Minerals), Outer Asteroid Belt (Light minerals and ice)Xin-1: Liquid Water, Current Terraforming Project, Home of the WURMXin-2: Ashy wasteland, Constant Deadly StormsNan System (60 Light Years): White Dwarf, Outer Asteroid BeltNan-1: Gas giantNan-1a: Highly oxidized surface, majority of crust made of zinc, further research requiredNan-1b: Rocky planet, no atmosphere Nan-1c: Rocky planet, no atmosphere Nan-2: Gas GiantNan-2a: Meager atmosphere, desert planet, possible silicate processing site Vetuck System (60 Light Years): Yellow StarVetuck-1: Barren Hot worldVetuck-2: Habitable world, iron age agricultural society, monetheistic culture Vetuck-3: Gas GiantVetuck-3a: Hot volcanic worldVetuck-3b: Small Barren ice moonVetuck-4: Dark world, very heavy elements, super-hard outer shell, more research neededVetuck-5: Tiny cold planet, thick atmosphere Andeon System (90 Light Years): Red Giant, Nebula CloudAndeon-1: Habitable world, dead civilization, hostile defense grid Andeon-2: Cold dry desert planet, source of Azurium X System: UnknownY System: Unknown Based on our new vow I have compiled all the information we have on the local cluster here and all the anomalies we need to research.