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The Grail War continues, and you continue to prepare yourself and your allies for the final assault tomorrow

You are Shinji Makiri, Ten years ago you suddenly found yourself with the memories of a complete past life that saw this world as a fictional story due to some unprecedented form of inter-dimensional transportation. Since that day, your new composite being has been working to change the grim future laid out for you.

To that end, you have done much, involving yourself with events and situations that have shifted the future away from the one that you once would have faced and instead onto one of uncertainty and chaos.

An enemy beyond anything within the Fifth Holy Grail War awaits you, and the danger it represents to the fabric of reality itself is far greater than anything you could've ever envisioned. The grail itself is an insignificant speck compared to the true evil that you must now confront.

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"Obligation...? Reason...?" You look Tiamat in her huge pink eyes. The cross pattern within them as beautiful as they always are even when she dwarfs you like a human might dwarf an ant. "I don't need any of those to help somebody, Tiamat. Especially not a good person like you. You shouldn't have to be used as a stepping stone by others... you deserve better than, Tiamat. You are the Mother of all life, and it is the role of a mother to not just give birth to her children, but also to guide them. To protect them. To ensure they succeed in life." You inform Tiamat of the role of a mother, before you laugh a little. "But... if I was pressed to give you a reason, I'd say... it's because I wanted to protect your smile, Tiamat. I don't want to see somebody as good-hearted as yourself cry, or be torn apart by your own children. You... deserve better than that."

"I see..." Tiamat seems to be considering your words deeply, before she speaks once more. "But who are you, Outsider? You are not of this world, I can tell, but... from whence do you originate? Why have you taken an interest in this world?" Tiamat still sounds slightly suspicious of you, and though she seems to have accepted your reason for helping her she is still wary of you and your origins.

"I... am not originally of this planet, that is true. Though I do consider myself an inhabitant of it, one of the humans who in the future of this world will thrive upon this planet." You sigh as Tiamat continues to look at you with a huge scrutinizing eye. "My sister... my sister and I owe you a great deal, I cannot explain the cause for why, but... I owe you enough that I wouldn't simply allow you to be struck down." You then look at the giant woman with a smile on your face. "I may not have been born from you, Tiamat, but... I consider myself a human, and you are the mother of humanity. So that makes you my mother as well." Tiamat frowns at your non-answer, before you purposely allow yourself to fall backwards, taking a seat on her giant palm.

You somehow feel like revealing too much in this conceptual world could be... dangerous. Though the danger isn't of a malicious nature. "So, you saved me from my rebelling child for this reason? Because you consider me your mother and you owe me a debt?" Tiamat seems to wish to confirm your motives, and you shrug.

"Well, that's what children are meant to do, isn't it? Protect their parents? It's not supposed to be a vicious cycle of birth and betrayal. It is a mother's duty to give birth to her children, and then to raise them into the strongest beings they can be. When they reach adulthood, it is then the duty of the child to protect the mother. I suppose I was merely fulfilling my duty as your child, Tiamat." You smile at the giant woman, who looks stunned at your words.
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"I... see..." Tiamat seems to take your words to heart. "But... you've continued to evade my questions, Outsider. You've told me that you are not of this world, but not your true name, or of where you originated from." Tiamat asks once again for your true identity, and you run a hand through your hair.

"I'll answer whatever questions you might have when we next meet, Tiamat, how does that sound?" You place a palm against the skin of the hand you're sitting on. "I won't call it destiny, or fate. But I know that we will meet each other once again, I assure you of that." You can't answer her questions here, you don't know why you feel that way, but... you just can't. However... there's one thing you can answer for her. "My True Name though? It's Shinji Makiri." You smile at Tiamat one last time as you infuse her with a concept. The concept of Progress flows through the body of the Mother Goddess, and her eyes widen in surprise before the world around you flashes white and you find yourself being dragged back to the place from whence you came.

You find yourself laying down face up, Tiamat staring down at you with a smile before you realize that your head was sitting atop her bare legs. From Tiamat's back, you notice two colossal feathered wings. Like that of an angelic being. You try to activate your Eye of Truth to observe the changes done to Tiamat, in addition to getting a proper read on her, but the nature of the world you currently stand in has made the activation of your Pure Eyes impossible, unbelievably. Seems that Sakura's mastery over Nullification wasn't truly complete yet.

Tiamat is looking down at you with a smile still, and you decide you may as well speak first.

>"So... do you feel different then?"
>"Do you want me to answer those questions now?"
>"Do you think you'll be able to come out of Sakura for extended periods now? Or maybe speak with her without suffering from the feedback loop?"
>Get up from the lap pillow and headpat her.
>Write-in...
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>>4896615
>Get up from the lap pillow and ruffle Tiamat`s hair.
>Give Tiamat a hug
>"Do you think you'll be able to come out of Sakura for extended periods now? Or maybe speak with her without suffering from the feedback loop? I don`t want you to feel alone any longer or just observe the word through something like prison cell bars"
>"So... do you feel different then?"
>"And do you want me to answer those questions now?"
Might as well pick everything and add a hug.
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>>4896615
>>"Do you want me to answer those questions now?"
>"and do you feel any different?"
Her lap is nice, lets stay here a little more.
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>>4896615
Support >>4896620
Mommy still knows best. And what a nice conversation we had with her.
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>>4896620
Support
>>4896615
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>>4896622
Support
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>>4896615
>>4896620
+1
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>>4896615
>>4896620
+1.
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>>4896615
Supporting >>4896620
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>>4896628
Well that's cute
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>>4896628
If only that was what actually happened. I was angry at Gudako's talk with Tiamat, where he essentially answered her "Please don't leave me behind" with "Thanks for everything mom, we love you, back to your cage now, you'll never see us again, bye!"
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God why is the first instinct to flirt? Already have so many obligations plus our own training. It's like people wish to be bigger down in SLs.
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>>4896632
Well it's not like he could stay or so anything about her situation. He isn't god not did he have the tools to succeed in the situation.
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>>4896632
While he could have said more things, he had no way of helping her there.
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>>4896615
Calling in 30
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>>4896632
This is still better than how they dealt with other people they crossed paths with.
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>>4896615
>>4896628
Support
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>>4896669
Wait LMAO. I just supported a support. I meant to support >>4896620
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Tally?
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>>4896673

>>4896615
>Get up from the lap pillow and ruffle Tiamat`s hair.
>Give Tiamat a hug
>"Do you think you'll be able to come out of Sakura for extended periods now? Or maybe speak with her without suffering from the feedback loop? I don`t want you to feel alone any longer or just observe the word through something like prison cell bars"
>"So... do you feel different then?"
>"And do you want me to answer those questions now?"
>>4896620
>>4896623
>>4896624
>>4896626
>>4896628
>>4896630
>>4896670

>>"Do you want me to answer those questions now?"
>"and do you feel any different?"
>>4896622
>>4896625
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the old thread is too laggy to open on mobile, can someone screencap what the jubilant catarina man is talking about?
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When's Paradox Carnival happening?
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>>4896743
2 days
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>>4896723
Don't worry, was just catching up with the usual shitposting. Nothing too important. I realised about halfway the thread was dead anyway.

Batman pretending to be retarded for 7 years was a really interesting plot twist, I must say.
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>>4896772
Wasn't me you dumb nigger
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>>4896775
I guess the vergilmeds wore off again then?

Anyone else like the two simultaneous plots in the thread? The actual story and the schizoposting arguments of all of Shinji's headmates.

Very kino two in one
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>>4896776
All the so called shitposting has been saiyan and some other anon.
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>>4896760
penis id

>>4896673
JEW5 id

RIP Marduk, the world's first meme
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You get up from the lap pillow, Tiamat's soft hands resting upon your shoulders don't try to force you down, but there is a tiny amount of resistance, almost as if she doesn't want you to get up from her comforting embrace, however... you can't spend forever with her. So, with that in mind, you get up from the floor and pat her on the head, ruffling her hair slightly when you do. Yeah, it's much easier to give somebody a headpat when you aren't comparatively smaller than an ant compared to them.

"Shinji..." Tiamat says your name calmly as you pat her atop the head, before you suddenly retract your hand from the top of her head and envelop the woman in a hug, not even caring for that fact that she's completely nude aside from her gloves and leggings. Why would you care, anyway? The woman quickly responds to your hug and wraps her arms around you as well, and the two of you remain that way for some time. In silence, you hold the woman, who smiles at you with great joy in her eyes.

You don't let go of her, even when you decide to start speaking again. "Do you... think that you'll be able to come out of Sakura for extended periods now that I've granted you a concept? Or maybe speak with her without suffering too much from the feedback loop to actually be able to converse...?" You speak softly and with care to the woman. "I don't want you to feel alone any longer, or to be forced to just observe the world through something like prison cell bars."

"I... think that it might be possible for me to leave Sakura if she were to allow it now, though... we would still be linked, I believe it might be possible for me to suppress the feedback loop for long enough that the two of us could hold conversations with one another, as well... the only thing that's keeping me here now is Sakura's own power, and... the link we share with one another. We are bonded inseparably, after all. When I took root in this place, we became inextricably linked with one another. I, on my own, do not have the power to permanently leave Sakura." Tiamat explains the depth of the bond that she shares with Sakura.

"I see... well, so long as it is possible for you to leave Sakura at all, I consider it a victory. Now you'll finally be able to look upon the world you are responsible for without fear of destroying it! Aren't you happy?" You smile, and she smiles back before nodding.

"I'm happy, of course I'm happy..." The woman suddenly starts to laugh, a deep seated joy finally having built up enough within her to allow her to laugh, possibly for the first time in millions of years. "You managed to grant my wish, Shinji. Just like you do for so many others." She smiled happily at that, and you decide that with your eye inactive, your best bet of finding out how Tiamat is changed would be to simply ask.
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"So... do you feel any different then? I can't really tell if much has changed about you other than..." You point at the two wings on Tiamat's back, which she flaps experimentally.

"Oh... those things. Well... I'm not entirely sure exactly how I've changed, but... I feel that I'm no longer a Beast anymore... yet I retain all of the powers I had as a Beast, I've... been granted new powers... though I am not sure just how to wield them yet." Tiamat frowns, before she looks at you and begins smiling again. "Whatever happened though, I'm no longer a Beast, but I'm... something greater, it feels like. Something that exists beyond even a Beast. What you could call that, I... do not know." Tiamat ends the hug with you and flaps her newly formed angelic wings with a smile.

"Interesting..." Something beyond a Beast? Just... just what did you end up doing to Tiamat that has made her so powerful? What sort of existence could exist beyond a Beast? "So... those questions I offered to answer for you, would you like me to answer them now?" You remember what you promised in her internal world, and Tiamat just tilts her head at you in confusion.

"Questions...? What... what do you mean, Shinji? I don't recall having any questions for you. I already believe I know all that I need to about you." Tiamat says with a happy smile, and you freeze for a moment. Something... something doesn't add up. Why would the Tiamat in her conceptual world and the Tiamat outside of her conceptual world be different like this? It was special in Rhon's case, as she was a Goddess, so the conceptual core of her being was herself, so... was that not the case here too? How is it that Tiamat doesn't recall the offer?

Before you can try to get to the bottom of things, Sakura's voice suddenly calls out. "O-onii-chan? I can't keep the natural reaction of my internal world at bay for much longer! You have about a minute in there before I have to pull you out!" Sakura's voice booms around you and Tiamat, and you clench your fist. Damn it! You need more time to find out just what is going on here!

>Ask Sakura if she can't hold on for a little longer, you want to speak with Tiamat.
>Ask Sakura if she can take Tiamat out with you for some time.
>Ask Tiamat why she can't remember what happened in the conceptual world.
>Ask Tiamat if she still wants to know the truth about you.
>Kiss Tiamat before you leave.
>Write-in...
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>>4896819
Oh fuck we really did time travel didn’t we.

Anyways
>Ask Sakura if she can't hold on for a little longer, you want to speak with Tiamat.
>Ask Tiamat why she can't remember what happened in the conceptual world
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>tiamat doesn't remember

oopsie doopsie, is that a new lostbelt in which a CONCEPTED Tiamat isn't killed by Marduk occurs at the start of history?
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>>4896833
Why is every alternate reality worse than ours? I wish changing the past made things better rather than dooming the world for once.
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>>4896826
Support
>>4896819
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>>4896839
Are you sure that's worse?

Primordial mother goddess with the concept of Progress, countering her normal Beasthood Regression Sin.

It'll be a super society if anything.

Although the landmasses would be a lot different, Marduk isn't nearly as big as her, and he was split into 5? pieces in the last few updates, so the planet is gonna probably look very waterworldy
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I will try to get a final update out tonight, so uh... votes would be enjoyed.
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>>4896819
>Ask Sakura if she can't hold on for a little longer, you want to speak with Tiamat.
>Ask Tiamat why she can't remember what happened in the conceptual world
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>>4896819
>Ask Sakura if she can't hold on for a little longer, you want to speak with Tiamat.
>Ask Tiamat why she can't remember what happened in the conceptual world
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>>4896879
Uhh cummies
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"Sakura! Can you try to hold on for a little longer? I need to speak with Tiamat for a just a few more minutes! It might be crucial!" You call up to the sky, not knowing just how Sakura observes things that occur in her world, but it seems that it did the trick.

"A-alright, Onii-chan! I'll do my best! B-but if I feel like I'm losing my grip, I'm pulling you out immediately, OK?!" Sakura calls back down to you, and you nod.

"That sounds fine, Sakura. I just need to figure out what has actually happened here." You haven't really asked many people about their conceptual worlds, as it's... a little awkward, but... you do have one person you can ask... 'Rhon. Can you tell me if you remember what happened when I saved you inside your conceptual world?' You call out to the spear within you, and you soon receive your response.

'What sort of a question is that, Master? Of course I remember that! How could I forget it? It was the most important moment in my entire existence!' Rhongomyniad sounds annoyed at the implication that she'd forget what you did for her, and you realize that... something is definitely up here.

'Then... can you tell me what you remember from Tiamat's Conceptual World then, Rhon? You were with me, I even used you against Marduk, right?' You want to confirm that Rhon remembers battling with Marduk, but there's a brief silence for some time, before the spear speaks.

'You... did? Wait... you used... me? In Tiamat's world...?' Rhon sounds confused, and you start to worry now. Why can nobody remember what happened within Tiamat's internal world?! First Tiamat herself, and now Rhongomyniad! 'N-now I feel silly! I can't remember you using me at all! Unless it was... Ack!; Rhon suddenly makes a noise of pain, and stops talking altogether.

'Rhon?! What happened?!' You shout through the mental link, panic in your projected voice as you try to ascertain what exactly had happened to make Rhon stop talking like that.

'She's... fine. She's just fainted. I... don't know what exactly is happening here, but... I don't think it would be wise to ask her about how you used her in Tiamat's world again. She seemed to be on the verge of something, before she just... fainted.' Kay suddenly speaks in Rhongomyniad's stead, informing you of just what had happened. This... definitely isn't good. Something has definitely happened, and you're determined to find out just what exactly occurred within Tiamat's conceptual world that has made it so different.

'Thank you, Kay. Make sure she's alright... I don't know what the interior of that spear looks like, but make sure she rests in bed.' You order the knight without caring what he might think or even what the interior of Rhongomyniad is actually like. You imagine it would look something like Rhongomyniad's Conceptual World, but... you can't really be sure of that.
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"Tiamat. Do you know why you can't remember what happened in your conceptual world? This... has never happened before, and I feel something larger at play might be at work."

"..." Tiamat looks at you in silence for a moment, lost in deep thought as she tries to come up with an explanation for you, before she suddenly seems to have a flash of inspiration, and her eyes open wide! "I think I understand! I... when you opened your eyes again, it... didn't feel like I had changed! No... it felt like I was finally unlocking something that I've had for... a long time." Oh, then... "Like as if I had this power hidden within me all this time, and I'd just... never found it! Is this not... what it's like for everyone?" Tiamat asks you innocently, and your eyes widen.

"No... no Tiamat, it's not what normally happens. Something very strange has happened here. Something very strange indeed. You said that it felt like the power has almost always been within you and it only just activated? That you can remember nothing of what happened in your Conceptual World?" You really really don't like where this is headed, but... you don't know if there's any other explanation.

"I did. This power... I wasn't born with it, but... I certainly had it before my body was used to create the world." Oh. Oh no.

"Tiamat... you were... killed by Marduk, weren't you? Before all this." You want to confirm that history hasn't somehow changed, and Tiamat frowns, clearly not happy to be reminded of Marduk, not that you can blame her at all for it.

"I was... but... what does that have to do with anything?" Tiamat sounds upset at the reminder of her original death, and you realize that you can't have changed this timeline through time travel. So... why do you feel so strange?

>Theorize about what happened. (What's your guess?)
>Hug Tiamat one last time and have Sakura take you back out to the real world
>Have Sakura just return you to the real world.
>Take Tiamat's hand, and have her come to the real world with you.
>Write-in...
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sneed
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>>4896926
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>>4896927
indeed
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>>4896923
>Hug Tiamat one last time and have Sakura take you back out to the real world
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>>4896929
Got any thoughts about whats going on niggerman?
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>>4896932
the jews did it

Well, this is the first time we concepted someone with Independent Manifestation.

For her specifically..

>At Rank B, this Skill is a declaration of the holder’s presence across all of space-time, and thereby grants immunity against existential threats by way of time paradox or the instantaneous imposition of death.[22]

We probably just made a new time tree or branch with an offshoot concept, because Shinji's chad tree trunk can't be altered. We might have made a sister branch with a Truth concepted foundation?
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>>4896938
Also means we should be really careful about what we give Morgan and Merlin.
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>>4896939
Wat would making Merlin understand humans and overall nicer change?
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>>4896946
Well.. he might just give up on Britain in despair, knowing what awaited them. Which would create other lostbelts like lb6 where mystery never ended.
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>>4896923
Oh yeah we absolutely fucking time traveled.
>Theorize about what happened. (You somehow time traveled back to when Marduk was about to kill Tiamat and may have accidentally created an alternative timeline within your own timeline)
>Hug Tiamat one last time and have Sakura take you back out to the real world
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Called it! Created a new branch and it was recorded somehow to affect all Tiamats.
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>>4896932
Support on sucking them titties
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The Tiamat we changed will never get answer.
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>>4896983
Well Babylonia just got fucked.
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>>4896989
We will just have to go to that timeline.
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so if there's only one timeline or something, then are BAD ENDS just not canon to us?
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So, maybe its because tiamat's death is a quantum time lock? Thats why rhongo fucking blacked out trying to remember, we maybe made something like a dragon break from TES, where 2 or more different events happen at the same time in the same timeline, so tiamat died, but also didnt.
Well, at least thats my theory.
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>>4896923
>prevent tiamat from being killed in the conceptual world

guys did we just invalidate the entire world's creation?
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>>4896778
Me and Autist. Then Autist screaming at other Anon's. Thinking they were me or Batman.
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>>4897005
Did we accidentally pull a plan like Wormpa?
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>>4896923
Huh, well is this going to happen again when we go into Tamamo to Concept her?
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>>4896989
We just Trunks'ed the timeline.
>>4896991
How?
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>>4897005
Rhongo might have just blacked out because she tried to recall watching us work and was close to zero summing.
Or she recalled having the texture rolled out from under her and rewritten.
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>>4896923
this>>4896948

>>4896938
Yeah that is probably exactly what happened. Our Tree is the main, but near the base of the timeline where Tiamat is relatively, we just made a whole new Trunk. But I'm not sure if it counts as a Truth Concepted Foundation because Tiamat was never killed to make the world.
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>>4897105
Maybe not zero summing, but more like an error overflow.
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Wait, what happens to Alaya in a Truth Tiamat world?
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Well, rather than her un-concepted corpse rended apart to make the heavens and earth, instead Marduk's 5 pieces would be used to construct the new world. Also, Tiamat with her new conceptual Progress upgrade, on top of her old abilities now likely leads her children towards a hyper advanced age.

>"I did. This power... I wasn't born with it, but... I certainly had it before my body was used to create the world."

>"I was... but... what does that have to do with anything?" Tiamat sounds upset at the reminder of her original death, and you realize that you can't have changed this timeline through time travel. So... why do you feel so strange?

We cannot alter this time tree because Truth meme makes it absolute, but we most likely made a divergence point right at the beginning of Genesis where Tiamat was supposed to be killed. So, in reference to the original myth I'd imagine Marduk's corpse was instead used to create the heavens and earth, and Tiamat is now recounting our speech to her in the "conceptual world" about a mother guiding her children. She probably vored or jannied all the old gods which didn't serve her, and became something like a TYPE which would have then dabbed on all the extra-terrestrial gods who would later land. There was a split in the Sumerian pantheon surrounding those who summoned Tiamat and those who didn't during the original conflict. I imagine those loyal stayed elevated while those who rebelled were put down or made to serve.

I wonder what happened when Sefar arrives in this timeline?
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And for If new reality was made...

Sumer is now a steampunk kingdom. Gil has blue hair and steam powered mecha. Enkidu is his nanomachine companion. The world is now a discworld carried on back of a titty dragon.
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The land mass would be a lot smaller due to Marduk being a little manlet compared to Tiamat in size, and Tiamat as is the embodiment of saltwater so I imagine a planet with a lot less land, lots of seawater and a gigachad magitek style civilisation aesthetic.

Maybe like Zanarkand?

ENTER,
NEO GILGAMESH
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>>4897114
Also since the god of law is dead and loving mother goddess was infused with progress, everyone is a tolerant liberal progressivist now!
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>>4897117
bro you're ruining the kino
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>>4897113
>We accidentally made human Kryptonians.
Cool, but I am worried about what will happen with their progress. If we somehow pull this off like we think...when are they going to try and contact us?
>>4897114
That sounds awesome as hell. The big titty mecha better be able to combine with other flying cities for super dragon robots.
>>4897116
What about giant Island Ships in the seas?
>>4897117
What have we done...
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>>4897117
Wait no, that doesn't make sense, that is the definition of Anti Progress. The society couldn't function.
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>>4897120
Using Independent Manifestation magitek, and assuming they defeated the Olympian MECHACHAD mining crew, as well as Sefar, I imagine they'd just go harvest other timelines or Lostbelts for resources as outer space can't really exist in a pseudo lostbelt/texture specific AU.

But I imagine if Tiamum ever met Shinji again she'd immediately simp. We'll see I guess
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>>4897116
>>4897120
Kek
we will have to check out and see with our own eyes. We can ask our Alaya if she feels any different (inb4 she is craving food suddenly and inexplicably), and if it was really all adjacent reality thing I guess we can try asking Rin if she has a new derivative around. Or we may get approached by a friendly(?) grand servant from there.
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>>4897123
>Invasion of the Mecha Arc when
>The only way to achieve lasting peace is breeding Mama Tiamat
Well, I for one welcome our soon to be alternate universe brethren.
>>4897124
Can Rin even do that? Is she just Ratatosker for us, and going to be our messenger to the other tree? Could the other tree track her signature if they see her?
>We can ask our Alaya if she feels any different (inb4 she is craving food suddenly and inexplicably),
HEY, None of that here, we did not knock her up, yet, hopefully never to be on the safe side. Maybe she has a actual Twin now? But with glasses and a toga?
>Or we may get approached by a friendly(?) grand servant from there.
Who would they even send? Alternate Gilgamesh and his best Bro and or Waifu because Nanomachines Enkidu?
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>>4897128
Well she can peek at other versions of herself and single them out according to their circumstance, she did that before. If there’s a new timeline with wildly different history, if a Rin was born there she’d likely stand out a good bit I imagine.
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desu we just inadvertently created actual organic plot threads to follow post Manaka, always good to have something to chase
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>>4897132
That is the question, is there even alternate versions of us in that universe? Hell, since the old continents and gods never happened, do they even have close facsimiles of our Servants?
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>>4897135
God I hope we just finish her off and she doesn't escape. Her being incompetent will only last so long, and her having our Truth plus her bullshit is asking for trouble.
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>>4897135
we have several plot threads we can chase though, we keep talking about Clock Tower
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>>4897117
In fact, Matriarchy is virtually guaranteed as dominant form of social order, too. Maybe Gil is a woman now as well.
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>>4897145
That would be weird, should we try and prevent them from meeting each other in that event?
>>4897144
Not Harry Potter arc will be fun.
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>>4897144
I originally proposed that

However with our new powers, clocktower is going to look more and more like Maou Gakuin as Shinji tries his best to hide his powerlevel while seeing who is worth not sending to the maze. I guess, being in England, Aylesbury can happen simultaneously for narrative's sake. Along with some Pendragon family SoL stuff.

TECHNICALLY, as the clocktower existed during the time of Artoria it's uhh, all her property. As is Albion, a great dragon of Britain :^)))
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>>4897135
Visiting the Lostbelt lead by the Beast of Progress will be very interesting, yeah. Mommy Tiamat will guide her children much, much better than the other shithead gods did.

>>4897144
Yeah, but those were canon plot threads we just haven't gotten around to dealing with yet. This Lostbelt is something completely new.

>>4897145
Humanity in that world would be created in our image. I doubt LB Gil would be a woman, but he'd probably have wakame hair.

>>4897153
Clocktower arc gets more and more fun, yeah.
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>>4897153
Doesn't Mordred technically own it now?
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>>4897157
Concepted Artoria owns everything that belongs to Britain.
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>>4897159
Mordred is the rightful ruler though, unless Artoria is just being the keeper.
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>>4897164
at this stage Mordred's only put her name on the ballot in gold letters, she doesn't own anything yet.

Artoria however..

>King's Treasury - Arsenal of Camelot: E~EX Rank Noble Phantasms
>A Noble Phantasm gained through the application of the concept of Arthuriana. Thanks to this Noble Phantasm, Arturia not only has the ability to summon every single mount and treasure that was ever possessed by Camelot or a member of Britain under her rule, but she can also exert a certain degree of authority over them. Allowing for the negation of any Noble Phantasm that is in her vault, as well as the removal of said treasure from another wielder, even if Arturia herself never actually owned that particular treasure in life.

Against modern humans she can literally just claim immediate ownership of anything in the clocktower as the organisation used to run under her rule.
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>>4897175
>Artoria is just Captain Britain
>Mordred is technically her boss
Wait, does this technically make Artoria a local guardian land spirit? But as the actual Landlord with Mordred ostensibly being preped to run the shop?
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>>4897178
Artoria is retired but still has the keys to the kingdom.
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>>4897178
You might think of her as a treasurer of sorts now. Everything is in her vault, but she has abdicated and will probably be spending her days with her husband in her sister-in-law's cool castle in Germany.
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>>4897179
She is the Kingdom, but with really nice legs. Just ask her husband Shirou.
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>>4897180
Best ending for them. So long as we properly kill Basement Dweller Manaka. She'll just be a non degenerate version of the current Queen of England. Hehehe, its gonna be real fun hearing how she outs that bed of degeneracy.
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>>4897182
Hearing? We'll be seeing it first-hand when we land on dragonback in front of Buckingham Palace with Mordred and watch as she tells the squatters to get out.
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>>4897183
Poor guards, they're just toy soldiers for what is about to go down.
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>>4897186
They're supposed to never leave their position while guarding the palace. We'll see how true that is when Alitheia roars.
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>>4897190
If you think they're gonna move, your sorely mistaken. Attack dogs have a better chance of running. Those poor bastards are there because it is their life. They will shit their pants, but that is just another day in the Palace Guards.
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>>4897190
>>4897194
https://youtu.be/KfEqxp6tC-w
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>>4897194
>A castle-sized dragon lands in front of them and roars
>picrel tells them to vacate the premises, it's her palace now
>just another day in the Palace Guards.
Really?
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>>4897195
I wonder if Artoria and Mordred would be impressed with the indoctrinated dedication they have, or disgusted.
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>>4897199
You really don't know them. In fact.
>>4897195
Give me a moment, I need to find something.
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>>4897190
Riding our dragon loli daughter to terrorize innocent soldiers [Pride]
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>>4897202
Would you prefer to have timechad Mordred murder them all?
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We need Mordred to send a d-mail back and rename Makiri Enterprises the Make a Wish foundation for all the stupid shit we're going to pull and have already done.
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>>4897203
No, I would prefer to use the power of money and charisma to make the takeover smooth, bloodless, consensual and perfectly boring.

After making sure none of the supernatural or semi-supernatural agencies are going to stir shit up where it could have been avoided.

Idk why people seem to favour casual violence so much.
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>>4897207
Not retarded, seeing as magical glowies only need to land one solid hit on someone we care about for it to be a problem for us.

Until Kur is up and running
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL4WL4h_I1A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoKi_ZTxJNA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfjIJ5jmWlQ
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>>4897207
>consensual
Do you really think the queen, those in power in general, and their most loyal supporters can be convinced to give up their power and privileges just like that? No matter what we do, we cannot convince 100% of the people. Some amount of coercion will have to be involved to oust the last hold-outs.

>After making sure none of the supernatural or semi-supernatural agencies are going to stir shit up where it could have been avoided.
The magical glowies will not take this lying down. We are everything they oppose, and they don't play around. As the nigger said, one solid hit is all it'll take to make this painful. We'll have to wage a war in the shadows to defang them, and that can't be bloodless.

>Idk why people seem to favour casual violence so much.
Violence is, and has always been, our last resort. But it is necessary sometimes.
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>>4897216
The Queen herself, probably pretty simple. The rest of her family of degenerates? That is where the issues are.
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Because Lizzie = Drake, and Drake dabbed on pissimpdon, there is a non zero chance the crown jewels of England contain his mechachad core, among other powerful mystic codes.

Might make for a decent boss fight if Artoria doesn't just toggle it off.
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>>4897221
Are you implying we let them get all riled up as final bosses entering their ultimate form, starting a monologue on how they will not lose, then shut them off mid sentence? Because I am right now.
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>>4897224
Several of the mystic codes could have been acquired abroad and after the fall of Camelot, so she probably can't toggle everything off. Still a pretty big kneecapping though.
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>>4897225
Between us, Artoria, Shirou, Morgan, and Mordred. Anything they have left will be borderline useless.
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>>4897216
We don’t need to convince 100%, and it would amount to mindrape if we did.

Financial power should be not an issue if it wasn’t until now.
Political power doesn’t require absolute majority, and we have enough tools and appealing enough vision at our disposal to be easily able to secure that even if Mordred herself doesn’t reveal herself until final act.

Magical world needs to be navigated first regardless and their preference for secrecy will help to keep it from spilling out.

>Violence is, and has always been, our last resort.
Arrogant posturing that invites it is not how you avoid resorting to it.

Anyway all this is premature at this point. Need to resolve this cataclysm before we set another into motion.
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>>4897225
I guess a good justification to bring the Indian gods as opposing force? Along with Egyptians.
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>>4897239
>Political power doesn’t require absolute majority
It would be pretty easy to get a Prime Minister of our choice elected, yeah. Charisma would be enough to clown any modern politician. Mordred doesn't want to be Prime Minister. She is the rightful King of Britain, and the germoid usurper will not willingly relinquish the throne.

>Arrogant posturing
It's only arrogant posturing if you don't have the force to back it up. They WILL get killed if they decide to fight, so we need to make sure they don't. For their own good, not ours. And fear is a useful tool to get those who aren't willing to switch allegiance to run.

Random example, but remember the thugs in the alley during our date with Sakura and Medea. We didn't give a nice speech on man's inherent goodness to try and convince them. We put the fear of Raiga in them. We can't convince everyone, and we can't just ignore all those we can't convince. Some of them will get in the way.
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>>4897246
It’s going to be much easier to get the queen to abdicate, or smoother to remove her by force, if the political power is in our hands, or in hands of someone loyal to us.


And arrogance is still arrogance no matter if you have power to back it with.
Although I guess it is rather close to “true Shinji” so there is the roleplaying aspect to consider.
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>>4897256
I think I understand now where the misunderstanding is. Landing on dragonback and ousting the pretender won't be our first move. That would be stupid. It's how you get a bloody civil war in your hands. It will be our LAST move, the capstone of our efforts to neutralize the glowies and win as much support as we can through other means.
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>>4896923
>Theorize about what happened. (Time travel happened because of Tiamat`s position at time of granting concept as Beast. You time traveled to the moment of her fight with Marduk and upon defeating him either new Timeline or Lostbelt was created but it is first time something like that happened so you are not sure)
>Promise Tiamat to solve this mystery together with her after you are done with world ending situations and post-war clean up
>Tell Tiamat she won`t be left behind anymore
>Take Tiamat`s hand, and have her come to the real world with you.
Interesting.
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>>4897239
With knowledge of the future we can collapse the global economy during the GFC to our own benefit, bankrupt companies and collapse currencies.

Then swoop in and save the people with helicopter money.

Niggercattle love gibs.
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>>4896923

sounds good >>4897266
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>>4896923
Support >>4897266
Time for mommy Tiamat to see her children's world for the first time.
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>>4896923
switching>>4897106
to this>>4897266
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>>4897286
I'd prefer to avoid actively exacerbating issue since doing so would mean deliberately making life worse for billions and pushing people into hands and lives of criminals out of desperation.
Even if we wouldn't care if some nameless mobs die for the greater good, our allies would once they found out, their reaction no doubt even worse if we kept such a plan secret from them.

Regarding GFC it would be quite enough to make a name for ourselves as one of the doomsayers who prophesize untenability of the system, hedge our positions accordingly and then gobble up what hopeful assets will be up for grabs in the fallout while at the same time providing an outreach with magnanimous "told you so" undertones and promise of a less dishonest and corrupt alternative for the future.
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>>4897123
This artist is pretty good.

>>4897266
>>4896923
+1

Also, someone said something about gilgamesh with blue hair, so i did this, its shit.
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>>4897323
Nah, that's pretty good.
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I just realized we're going to have two Tiamats when the alternate timeline comes over for Shinji's dick.
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>>4897323
looks like a magi character
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>>4897266
>>4896923
Supporting this.

Giv a moment I got 2 stories ready to deploy.
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>>4897359
ENTER
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>>4897362
Yumigawa becomes a drink:
https://0bin.net
/paste/r3Fn21Hc#jLgv9M5QL0UulyziWoe2BBldofh00XPUeUcmDR+jBlm
ID series: 001 Mashu
https://0bin.net
/paste/N2QPcHt+#dEq04jIqQlr1XaUHzVwGbT5wkbd-cZrisei60MR9sGI

There we go.
Got the Mash story done.
Saberfaces should be easy in comparison.
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>>4897365
Mashu could have always been emulating her new husband I guess?
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>>4897366
Still can't believe Nasu did this.
Madlad.
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>>4897371
Best part of LB6 desu senpai
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>>4897373
What is it with Japan and loving getting cucked?
No wonder they will dissappear.
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>>4897388
soulless broken bugmen whose spirit died when emperor cuck surrendered in ww2
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>>4897365
Circe`s story was really sweet.
And for the second one
>Saber got down on his knees
Classical. Alberich kneeling moments never get old.
>>4897388
Sign of heavily decaying society.
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>>4897390
A cool twist.
I'm just lucky I never once cared about Mash.
Felt too much like yet another Sakura retread to me. It feels like Nasu is desperate to make people like Sakura so he's written her over and over as separate characters and then fucks up with the stuff like this.
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>>4897391
I think the next one will be set during Alberich and Sabers first fight and have Saber finish the fight by disobeying her braindead Master.
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>>4897388
>>4897390
They need therapy badly.
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>>4897406
they need more nukes
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>>4897407
The first two got them to this point, and until this woke plague is purged, I'd rather they not die. Also Japanese girls are hot.
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>>4897408
Nah.
Japan always was super fucked up.
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>>4897407
At least this LB gave us Barghest and Oberon.
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>>4897415
dog girls are always best
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>>4897410
I mean, true, but they are the right kind of crazy that keeps the woke parasites out. And that is the best thing we can hope for. Get more no s(0)y white American men over there, and it should even out if they keep feminism from getting out of hand.
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>>4897416
If I spray him with window cleaner, would he get off the window?
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>>4897419
could you not disrespect his highness?
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>>4897399
I feel that at this point they are just capitalizing on FGO`s decline. They are just doing that in very japanese way.
>>4897405
You can make it into rather good ending.
Have Sweet`s Solid Snake order Saber to eat Alberich after Saber defeats him in a few seconds due to difference between her Instinct and his Mind's Eye (True). Snake burns two command spells to force Saber to do it as she thinks Alberich in Angra 2.0 but after eating him she uses her new power to sever contract, kills Snake and runs into Emiyas soon after.
Together they roll over everyones else in that war or something like that.
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>>4897421
Could he not smudge my fucking windows when I have the lights on?
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>>4897426
pls learn canon
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>>4897417
You are right kind of stupid if you believe that.
Degeneracy serves as no barrier to encroached upon freedoms.
Just distractions for the masses as freedom is taken.
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>>4897428
Maybe, but workplace self destruction and brutal work schedules plus isolation of those that don't partake in it do keep them out.
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>>4897427
I am going to insult butterfly fairy man if I damn well please. I don't get to make bug jokes that often. And the Wiki sucks ass.
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>>4897431
Japan is a dying society.
The carcass of America's bitch will be picked over by the vultures.
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>>4897434
Long as the hold out long enough, red white and blue vultures get there first.
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>>4897433
The Wiki is bad source.
Oberon is based.
The girl he's telling to shut the fuck up is one of the biggest cunts in Fate.
Very pathetic villain.
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>>4897436
Funny way to say blue and white vulture.
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>>4897437
So he's based?
>>4897438
Hey, we're repainting the streets red, don't leave out the biggest color.
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>>4897365
Based vorefren.

>>4897388
Not a nip-only problem, sadly. Just take a look at the similar US degeneracy. They are a broken people, but they're not alone in that.

>>4897399
>Felt too much like yet another Sakura retread to me
It's weird how many of Sakura's traits Mashu has, yeah. Especially calling Gudako Senpai for no real reason. But having her cuck Gudako with a lion? WTF was Nasu thinking? I feel sorry for the Mashufags.

>>4897437
It will be even better if it turns out he's a Zepia larp as the evidence suggest.
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>>4897440
Yes.
I just told you.
Based Fairy man.
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>>4897444
I praise the Fairy King's Trips.
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>>4897442
>It's weird how many of Sakura's traits Mashu has, yeah.
He won't stop rewriting Sakura as different characters.
AI Sakura
BB
Sakura 5
Mash
Parvati
Kama

That's 10.
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>>4897446
I'm glad Ufotable's Heaven's Feel exists now. But

>Parvati
>Kama
That's not rewriting Sakura as different characters. That's a malevolent demon possessing and breaking the real Sakura, and a second victim, a god, being caught up in the aftermath.
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>>4897449
Who thought this was a good idea?
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>>4897451
At a guess, the same guy who thought MashuxLion was a good idea.
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>>4897453
I write vore fanfic and even I'm confused by why Nasu is like this.
Fucking japs.
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>>4897453
to be fair, the lion dude has more character than ritsuka
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Can we destroy Chaldea in at least one timeline?
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>>4897455
At least we'll always have what he wrote before he completely lost his marbles, and what Takeuchi drew before gacha money made him too lazy to bother.
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>>4897461
We HAVE to save that Sakura from Parvati. And then free all the other pseudos. We will become Chaldea's worst nightmare.
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>>4897461
lostbelt safari soon
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>>4897461
Yeah, we should deal with them.
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>>4897461
Is it hunting season after Not Harry Potter?
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>>4896923
>>4897266
Support
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>>4897462
That's true. He can't change the past.
>>4897463
I'm down for saving everyone.
>>4897464
Anyone worthwhile to take from the LBs other than Barghest and Oberon?
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>>4897473
We'll be taking their trees.

Depending on the quality of the words as zoos or something we can hang them like baubles on Chadryssl
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>>4897473
LB Morgan has an Albion as a pet too. Albion is a retard, but Alitheia could use another subject.

Fairyland is one Lostbelt we won't be hanging from our tree though.
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>>4897473
>>4897475
>>4897477
We can also loot some mechachads.
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>>4897478
Can we Concept them with Gatai? I want magic Gurren Lagan.
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>>4897479
tendency to job increases exponentially with size
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>>4897480
Shit, its that inverse of awesome rule? We can just break that with a Concept. But then we might need them to be Mega Zords.
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Amaterasu is next right?
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>>4897473
>Anyone worthwhile to take from the LBs other than Barghest and Oberon?
Asha
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>>4897486
No, we need to leave her for last. Just in case something goes wrong back in time again. Or we accidentally a third branch.
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>>4897491
Either she lets us concept Tamamo in peace or she eats us.
Either way it's a win-win for me.
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>>4897501
Yeah we actually die when eaten, we aren't Alberich running on Kenny rules.....kinda.
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>>4897486
First we'll have Touko make us a doll, which, with her A+ item con and immaculate concept should be an incredible base material.

Then, we'll concept it with "yojimbo" and offer it as a gift for Tamamo, saying we'll make her a mirror of equal or better quality when we have a suitable base material. After seeing just how fucking stronk a simple shieldbearer concept was for Medea's new Adamas Volumen it'll be worth trying to use a higher quality base material.

From there, she can either reciprocate the gift and item con up a no ability but high quality mirror which we can then concept, or we'll simply wait until we can source one.

Then, we'll offer to concept her. We'll be forced to deal with Ammy then. She should already have a pretty good opinion of us, so as long as we don't go full retard we should be fine.

When the chance arrives, I'd probably suggest Eclipse for Tamamo, to ensure she is never swallowed by her future self, and to enable her to scale in power proportionately to Ammy.

Then, because giving Ammy a truth condom would help protect against Manaka summoning another tail and using it against us with some of Ammy's authority in future. I'd probably suggest something like Temperance for Ammy, to draw upon her Bodhisattva nature/aspect and help elevate her to high cosmic tier, without fucking up her mind or using an overly powerful concept. This should then further feedback loop and scale Tamamo up as well with Eclipse.

If we leave this room we risk the plot side tracking us so it's better to just resolve what we can in this one sitting.

>>4897489
imagine the smell
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>>4897489
https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Indian_Lostbelt
>Mash decides to see Asha a final time before the Lostbelt disappears.[21] Asclepius disappears after giving medicine to a boy for his mother. Meanwhile, Ritsuka and Mash tell Asha about the distorted Yuga cycles, including what she had forgotten. They leave unable to tell her the Lostbelt will soon disappear. Asha cries in her sleep, thinking about the family she can no longer remember.[22]
dw anon, we won't let her world get erased. And we'll be fast enough to save her family too.

Holy shit, Chaldea is a supervillain organization
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>>4897505
We get tiger dojos.
We're fine.
We've been eaten by Gorgon's hairsnakes before in a dead end.
>>4897489
I wonder if Vritra would be extra protective of Asha because her name is Vritra's concept.
Either way her fight with God Arjuna will be legendary.
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>>4897512
Yeah, I know, I made a joke that was more Ironic than I intended, and then couldn't be bothered to rewrite for a joke. I had to commit to the bit.
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>>4897510
wdym sakurafren

stabilizing her area means having a subcontinent of india existing alone in a BLEACHED world, which would then subsume it (or not, idk what happens if we take the tree). You'd choose the Lostbelts over Panhuman History?
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>>4897510
Why am I getting that evil organization from Kingdom Hearts vibes from this?
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>>4897518
Xehanort did absolutely nothing wrong and is in fact (you)
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>>4897519
Blast, HOW DID YOU REALIZE MY DECEPTION?!
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>>4897516
No, as the nigger said in >>4897475 the plan has always been to grab the lostbelts and hang them from Chadgrassil like baubles. They'll be like mini-worlds, stabilized and connected to our own through our tree.

Those that we decide to keep and fix, of course.
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>>4897510
And this is one of the completion rewards for LB4.
>https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Family_Portrait
>>4897516
Actually, Lostbelts are all as large as the entire world.
They are just fighting for supremacy over who gets to keep their texture.
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>>4897521
We can probably fix most of what's wrong with them too.
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>>4897525
A trophy of the people erased. Exactly what an evil genius would hang over his office.

>>4897526
We certainly can, but we won't want to fix what's wrong with all of them. Fairyland gets purged, for example.
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>>4897521
Well yes, but that's not an option that Eggplant and Co. have, is it?

Either they delete the lost belts and have a little boohoo woe is me cry about it, or give up and let one of the LBs take over as the primary history and texture of the world.
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>>4897534
Yes, Chaldea has no means to not erase the Lostbelts. But reread what they do and what they tell the little girl right there at the end. They KNOW they'll have to erase her, they don't tell her that, and they even do what they can to make her cry too!
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>>4896923
>>4896948
Switching to/supporting >>4897266
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>"My concept has chanced both you and possibly the world somehow. I will come back later after i stop Manaka and solve this mystery together - try to understand your new abilities while I am gone."
>Have Sakura just return you to the real world.

Tiamat can't come to the real world yet, she needs to experiment her abilities first.
This timeline cannot be altered, but history changed. Therefore, spacetime fixed itself as hard as it could, making this reality as similar as the last one - a butterfly effect.

Also, the fact that Rhon cannot remember the events inside the conceptual world is probably due to the Nature of Truth - only Shinji can comprehend it (for now). Anyone else who tries to do this gets forcefully ejected (depending on the level of comprehension, the punishment differs).

The butterfly effect may have happened, but those connected to Tiamat still have lingering memories. This is just like that one time we erased Roa, but a whole lot bigger (instead of erasing something from the root, we added/changed it).

That's my theory at least.
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>>4897534
You'd think they'd stop making friends they know they will have to erase from existence after the first two COSMOS DENIALs.
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Tally?
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>>4897601

>>4896923

>Hug Tiamat one last time and have Sakura take you back out to the real world
>>4896931

>Theorize about what happened. (Time travel happened because of Tiamat`s position at time of granting concept as Beast. You time traveled to the moment of her fight with Marduk and upon defeating him either new Timeline or Lostbelt was created but it is first time something like that happened so you are not sure)
>Promise Tiamat to solve this mystery together with her after you are done with world ending situations and post-war clean up
>Tell Tiamat she won`t be left behind anymore
>Take Tiamat`s hand, and have her come to the real world with you.
>>4897266
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>>4897537

>"My concept has chanced both you and possibly the world somehow. I will come back later after i stop Manaka and solve this mystery together - try to understand your new abilities while I am gone."
>Have Sakura just return you to the real world.
>>4897539
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While I write this update, if anybody has Carnival suggestions, please post them.
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>>4897711
Oni shenanigans
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>>4897711
Shinji makes everyone cosplay as video game characters to laugh at them, but everything goes wrong (or right)
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>>4897711
Speedrunning Camelot with Shirou
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>>4897711
Shinji becomes a vtuber
Oni Cure (Magical Girl Shuten and Ibaraki) vs Phantasmoon [aka Magical Girl Arcueid]
Shinj gets revealed for smash
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>>4897711
Shinji is on a trip to the Clocktower alone, so everyone hangs out at his house. Someone busts into his room and tries one of his fancy clothes and pretends to be Shinji, leading to the entire cast doing the same in their own impressions of Shinji.

Then Shinji arrives early and catches the army of Shinjis.

Source - That episode in Teen Titans where everyone dresses like Robin.
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>>4897711
Parvati tries to kidnap and possess Sakura Prime.
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>>4897711
What is Enhance doing with Shuten's sister up in the Oni village? And is it spoilers to ask for what happened after we left past Tiamat?
>>4897740
Funny way of saying commit suicide.
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>>4897743
>Funny way of saying commit suicide.
That's exactly what makes it a good Carnival idea.
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>>4897711
Seconding these>>4897725
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>>4897711
Our Sakura wakes up in the Regular 5th grail war. Hijinks Ensue.
>>4897740
Neat.
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Why do you guys insist on playing a game where you think protagonists and good characters are actually evil monsters?
Is this the same reason why you were playing Sweet's quest?
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>>4897711
Second parts of those already done but still have some material for continuation and rest of the list that didn`t make the cut last time.
Godbusters with Shinji, Chiyome, Illya and Alcides.
Shinji as a villain in Bond-like story. Criminal mastermind with financial empire.
Tiamat finally gets to take care of the children.
Medusa and few other Servants got a bit drunk and started night street race it got a bit too flashy and made it into world news.
After grabbing power of Truth Manaka gets dragged into her own Carnival story and have to endure the silliness.
Day off of Manaka`s Servants as they look at how we are having fun and they can`t.
Spaghetti western story with Shinji and Billy.
Sakura`s adventure as she follows Shinji without him knowing about it to watch and cheer for him during all those Bajiquan tournaments.
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>>4897758
Elaborate, SCHUM.
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>>4897711
Jinako and Okki team up to design a game for Makiri Enterprises
Beaky, Abby, and Betty play in the woods with a cardboard box i have the image ready if this wins
Oura tries to swallow a can of konbini sake. It goes about as well as you'd expect.
Ichiban Kasuga vs Taiga Fujimura (no Alaya buffs)
A day in the life of Alaya (anons in control of the ultimate schizo hivemind)
The necoarcs have fun with the kids
Shinji shoots the shit with Takeuchi and Nasu
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>>4897761
>>4897764

can't be arsed to list all the whining about FGO in this thread or the previous ones, or mischaracterisation of the characters in it but it really goes beyond fucked up to keep wanting to see those villains, or caricatures of characters, drawn out just to make them suffer.

I can sort of understand it with the pedo QM/protag but bullying characters from gacha over fanon is taking it too far.
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>>4897758
>protagonists and good characters are actually evil monsters?
First off, nobody thinks that Ritsuka is anything other than a camera to gawk at things that occur around them.
"Good" as an alignment means very little, because it's just how you see yourself. F/SN Gilgamesh sees himself as Chaotic Good, and he blinds Illya and then tears her heart out while she's still alive to go ahead with his plan of near-genocide.
Chaldea is no stranger to employing self-admitted evil monsters to help them either though.
Case in point, Gilles de Rais or Kiara.

Also, if you're talking about the fact that Chaldea go about destroying Lostbelts, the problem is that the story still requires them to speak with supporting (non-servant) characters, which ends with them befriending people who they have every intention of killing (effectively). This is typical psychopathy on the part of Chaldea.
In FGO, the good characters are evil and most of the evil characters are usually just trying to get revenge for an injustice commited against them.
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>>4897767
So are you playing it because you roleplay a psychopath?
I hope you're not at least paying for it then.
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>>4897766
So, we just shouldn't talk about all the objectively evil shit that the Chaldeans do?
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>>4897773
...What?
How did you possibly get that from what I just said?
I'm saying that the CANON BEHAVIOUR of Chaldea when it comes to the inhabitants of Lostbelts is bordering on psychopathy.
They are befriending people while knowing that they will have to erase them.
They go out of their way to save people, even though they will only end up erasing those people in the end anyway.
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>>4897767
>First off, nobody thinks that Ritsuka is anything other than a camera to gawk at things that occur around them.
People got very mad at me when I called them a self insert
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>>4897775
Like what? Destroying branches of universe to sustain theirs? You're already planning to do the same, except with less justification because they apparently do it for survival while you want to do it for powerups.

Obviously you can talk about whatever you want to believe but when you ask for fanfic that takes a story warped away from its intention to satisfy your indignance it comes across as petty.
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>>4897775
Honestly, discount the lostbelts and shit, its implied that ritsuka don't really summon every servant, only a small amount of then, so a chaldea can easily never have summoned the fucked up servants.
The lostbelts are just suffering bait, also i'm sure there will be some bullshit to save who died on the end of arc 2.
>>4897783
I wish canon ritsuka had the personality of riyo's or at least one of the mangas, fuck nasu and his idea of having a blank slate character.
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test
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>>4897781
I'm not talking about the quest. Here you can obviously write them as however you feel. But if you see their behaviour as so monstrous, why are you still playing their game? (assuming you haven't dropped it in the meantime).

That said, it doesn't feel psychopathic at all to actually go and help people when they see them suffering before them, even if rationally they should discard anything they see as wholly irrelevant.
At least such is my understanding. I don't actually play the gacha.
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>>4897789
>they apparently do it for survival while you want to do it for powerups.
...apparently?
You mean... you don't know how lostbelts work?
Chaldea's world has been destroyed already.
Everyone on the planet has been killed by the Alien God.
Their world is gone.
The entire surface reduced to a white desert of sand.
The Alien God affixed the Fantasy Trees to the planet which contain alternate worlds, and Chaldea infiltrates and destroys those worlds to prevent them from taking over their husk of a world on the off-chance that they can still bring their world back.
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>>4897794
Cool, signal works again.
>>4897711
seconding these as well
>>4897759
And these
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>>4897797
WhatIs I am betting that's Sweets.
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>>4897792
Chaldea summons Kiara, which is confirmed in Ooku, so that's at least one Evil Servant, who has tried to destroy the planet TWICE.

>>4897796
I'm not talking about the quest either, anon.
This is just what Chaldea do.
Also
>implying I still play FGO.
I just read the translations at this point for the lore.
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>>4897803
Isnt Kiara one of nasu's favorite servants?
Also, Arc 2 would be a lot better if it was like post apocalypse FF6, where the main characters want to fuck up the main villain more for revenge than anything, a angry ritsuka that got fucked hard even after saving the world would be interesting.
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>>4897797
Well that does sound rather fucked up when you put it that way.

>>4897803
>I just read the translations at this point for the lore.
But why, if the lore is so fucked up that you can't even take it at face value? Why not disregard it entirely then?
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>>4897806
Nasu just loves his slut whore servants, and Kiara is the pinnacle of that.
Medb is also one of his favourites, iirc.
>angry ritsuka
Sorry, s/he's not allowed to show any emotion.

>>4897808
>Well that does sound rather fucked up when you put it that way.
It's VERY fucked up, yes.
You know you're in a tight spot when the leader of the villain group has a better plan to save the world than you do, and it's partly because of your idiocy that his plan gets ruined.
>Why not disregard it entirely then?
Because some of the stuff is still interesting.
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>You're already planning to do the same, except with less justification because they apparently do it for survival while you want to do it for powerups.
What?

>its intention
Here's the thing: Intention doesn't mean shit in a story. Only what is actually written. Sweets did not intend to write his protagonist as a retarded jobber, (though he did intend him to be a psychopath pedo), but that's what he wrote. And the Chaldeans may not have been intended as villainous, but it is. If you have a problem with that, take it up with the writers who wrote a shitty story and didn't think the implications through.

>>4897792
Yeah, the whole conversation in previous threads was about the evil servants they summon and trust, the pseudoservants being horrific, and Parvati who is even worse than the others. Their behavior on the Lostbelts is something we didn't talk about much before this thread.

>>4897796
>That said, it doesn't feel psychopathic at all to actually go and help people when they see them suffering before them
All these people have to die. The Chaldeans know that. A real human would avoid getting attached after the first couple worlds they had to wipe out. And a real human, when faced with a little girl who's about to die would never, ever tell them "oh, btw, your family got erased and you've forgotten about them." That's psychopathic behavior.

>>4897808
Well, these are our only two options. Either we try to make sense of the lore, or we discard it entirely. Personally, I used to go for the latter before this quest. Nothing after Extra existed for me. But you can't say that people who try to make sense of it are wrong. Or that we should stop thinking and accept that shit at face value.
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>>4897816
>Nothing after Extra existed for me
After? You mean that Extra was actually enjoyable to you, Mike ?
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>>4897816
Intentions do matter and if you reinvent incompetence as malice you are being the one spreading actual malice around.

>Sweets did not intend to write his protagonist as a retarded jobber, (though he did intend him to be a psychopath pedo)
Which of these do you think are worse for his story? I'd say the intent is much more damning.

>A real human
A real human can't turn off emotions as easily or choose to not get attached. That would be psychopathic behaviour. Just as lying coldly is more psychopathic than a misguided attempt at honesty.
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>>4897836
>A real human can't turn off emotions as easily or choose to not get attached. That would be psychopathic behaviour. Just as lying coldly is more psychopathic than a misguided attempt at honesty.
They literally told a little girl that the reason she feels so lonely is because all of her family has already been erased from existence, so she breaks down in tears.
And then they erase her from exixstence too.
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>>4897840
that sounds more like autism than psychopathy desu
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>>4897843
I would cry like a bitch and hug her.
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>>4897834
"After and including" didn't flow as well

>Mike
What?

>>4897836
Feel free to disagree with my interpretation. Ideally, provide some evidence as I have. But saying they are incompetent is just as much of a headcanon as saying they are evil when the writer didn't intend for them to be neither.
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>>4897843
>that sounds more like autism than psychopathy desu
This is the fourth world they erased.
They keep getting attached to people, and then erasing them. It's messed up.
Imagine if you met somebody and befriended them, and they turned out to be an alien sent to Earth to destroy the planet.
They always knew they would have to destroy the planet, and just decided to befriend you anyway.
No, your friendship with them won't make them reconsider destroying the planet for an instant.
How do you feel?
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>>4897845
fair
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>>4897848
I can't imagine that scenario, honestly.
Except maybe if I was convinced I'd be able to eventually undo everything that led to this series of events, like restoring the world to state where nothing of this happened.
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What in getting from the conversation is FGO ethics are questionable. I'd that what the argument is about?

As for Autist wasn't your argument before on what's good or evil is torturing one person is worst then wiping a bunch of people. That's what was said during the HF Sakura vs Shinji evil argument.
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Chaldea is in a horrible situation, and its not like they can afford to deny assistance, even from evil servants.
Also, servants negative traits are heavily downplayed in fgo. Something like Atalanta's seething hate for Jeanne over what happened to Jack would get resolved in a fight and a chat after quickly, or example.
The Lostbelt stuff got weird after the first 2. I get befriending the locals in them and feeling guilty afterwards, but you'd think they'd try to stop that from then on.
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>>4897888
Yeah, and some Servants just get completely retconned like my boy Avicebron.
>Doesn't feel bad at all about what he did to his Master in Apocrypha
>In FGO, he suddenly feels so bad about what he did that he can remember it even in other summons.
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You start to think about what could've happened in Tiamat's Conceptual World, yet the more you think about things, the less likely it seems to be the case that the world you visited was a Conceptual World at all, no... but... it can't have been that you really did go back in time, can it? Tiamat is unaware of any sort of change in the past, and if you did change the past like that, wouldn't you have ended up creating some sort of time paradox? Well Tiamat does have Independent Manifestation, so... could it be that in attempting to enter her Conceptual World, you instead traveled into the past? To the moment of her battle with Marduk? In that case, then... what exactly could you defeating Marduk with Tiamat have done? If you truly did travel back to the moment of the fight, then why hasn't the world changed? Or... could it be that only this world hasn't changed? That somewhere out there, there's a world where Tiamat reigned supreme over the planet instead of the gods that would have replaced her? You wonder just what would become of such a world, but... it's clearly not the world you're currently in. No, this world is one that cannot be changed by interventions into the past, and as it would appear, even your own interventions are no different to that rule. This timeline is still set, unchanging and unyielding to that which would attempt to alter it.
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But... could this really have happened? Tiamat has still been changed, hasn't she? Could you just be overthinking things? To believe all conceptual worlds to function the same would be a terribly ignorant assumption after all. In some conceptual worlds, there is absolutely nothing that could represent a danger to you. In Rhon's case, the world was being erased as you attempted to reach the center. In Obeithion's and Mordred's cases, you were at risk from the Dragon held within the two of them and in some cases, there was simply nothing other than the conceptual core of the person that you were modifying. Conceptual Worlds are clearly things that don't align to any sense of classification, being vastly different for each person with one, but... you can't help but believe that there was more to what happened with Tiamat than a simple Conceptual World being altered. No, there is definitely something more at play here, and while you theorize that time travel was involved in some manner, you simply can't know for a fact just what exactly occurred. Whatever happened, you can't be sure. You doubt that any such attempt at changing the past has been made on such a scale, after all. Sure, some people with the ability to travel in time may have attempted such a thing, but the changes they sought to bring forth would've been smaller in comparison to what you may have done. If you truly traveled to a time before the genesis of the world as you know it and changed it, then the only possible person you can think of to compare what you just did to would be... Goetia himself? Goetia needed the combined total of all the magical energy that would ever exist in the era of humanity to achieve such a thing though, so could you really have managed to reach that state entirely by accident?

Tiamat continues to look at you as you think deeply on the matter of what may have occurred within her internal world, and she looks just a little bit concerned for you as you strain your mind trying to take into account the possibilities that lay before you. If such a timeline exists... does that mean that somewhere out there, there exists a Tiamat who you made a promise to answer the questions of? If she exists, that does mean that you are... obligated to find her, and to answer her questions as to what you truly are... doesn't it?

"Tiamat... I don't know what it might have been yet, but... I believe that something may have happened when I gave you your concept that has... ended up creating another timeline entirely separate from this one, though... whether it exists or not right now, I can't say." A timeline in which Tiamat was the supreme deity of the world would diverge to such a great deal from the norm that it may have already been pruned, kept as a potentiality that cannot exist and banished from the tree of time.
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"I understand. Finding out just what may have happened is my responsibility as well, Shinji. All I can tell is that something... important occurred a very long time ago, but... my memory is too foggy to remember anything else." There's no doubt about it, you'll definitely need to uncover the true meaning of what you did within Tiamat's world at some point, you know that.

"Well, I don't imagine that whatever ended up happening is going to be an immediate threat to us or our world, not like Manaka is... so whatever the application of Progress may have done in the past, it's just going to have to be something left until after we've resolved this war with Manaka, OK?" You would really love to find out the truth behind all of this, but... what with Manaka threatening reality itself on every single level, you... can't really say it's something you can focus on at all right now. You take Tiamat's hand as you look her in the eye and explain your thoughts to her, and the woman nods.

She clutches your hand tightly as she begins to speak. "Well, I am... curious as to what may have been wrought by your actions. I will... endeavor to attempt to remember what happened in the past that I can't recall right now, but... I do not know if I will meet with success." Tiamat says apologetically, very obviously upset with her inability to remember something that in her own words she believes is important.

"It's... not a worry, Tiamat. If you can't remember what happened, there's nothing to be done about it. It's just..." You sigh. "Well, things ended up working out alright here, didn't they? There's nothing to worry about right now, is there?" You smile at the woman, before you take a deep breathe. "But... there is just one more thing. I'm... not going to leave you here alone, Tiamat. You're coming with me!" The woman looks stunned as you look to the sky. "Sakura! Get us out of here" You yell at the girl who owns the world you are within.

"OK! Hold on then, Onii-chan!" Sakura's cheerful voices echoes about you, before a large white portal opens up to the side of you. You can't see through the white portal, but you know that it can't lead either you or Tiamat anywhere dangerous, so... you take a step through it, Tiamat's fingers still entwined with your own, and you leave Sakura's inner world with the woman who is bound to her following you at your side.
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Light quickly returns to you as you take a look at Sakura, who is looking at Tiamat and you with happy eyes. Almost immediately after the two of you leave Sakura's inner world, the girl runs up to the two of you and swings her arms around the both of you. "I've wanted to see you and talk with you for the longest time, Tiamat!" Sakura happily speaks with the mother goddess who is responsible for granting her so much of her power, and Tiamat quickly returns Sakura's hug, as do you. Being so close to Sakura, you realize something different about her powers, but... whether that is the extent of the changes brought about through the application of Progress, you can't tell.

[Status Updated!]

"Yes, I've wanted to speak to you in... a setting in which it was possible for a while as well, Sakura." Tiamat's voice is quiet as she looks upon the girl who hosts her for what is likely the first time. Or at least the first time she has seen Sakura properly with her own eyes.

The three of you continue the hug for a few minutes, until it reaches a natural stopping point, and you all break off from the hug, Sakura looks at you with concern in her eyes after she does, and gives you a small smile. "Onii-chan... there are bags under your eyes." She has a gentle look on her face as she reminds you of just how tired you are. Your body might be superhuman, but... even you aren't immune to the rigor of fatigue. "You should think about getting some rest soon."

"Yes, Sakura is right..." Medea joins in now. "While I could use my magic to duplicate the effects of a night's sleep for you in an instant, even that would be an inferior alternative to an actual time to rest your body and mind." She also sounds concerned, and then Tiamat grabs your arm too, looking you in the eyes as she does.

"Yes, your two lovers are correct, Shinji. As your mother... I..." She pauses for a moment for some reason, before she shakes her head. "I... just think that you shouldn't push yourself too hard. You won't be doing the world any favors tomorrow if you collapse out of fatigue when you're trying to save it!" She takes on the tone of a mother warning her child about staying up all night. With all these women telling you that you should go to bed, it's hard to resist doing what they want, but...

>They're right, you should go to bed.
>No, you need to go and see somebody else. (Who?)
>No, you still need to grant Tamamo a concept before you can sleep.
>No, you need to do something else before allowing yourself to sleep. (What?)
>Write-in...
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>>4897903
>No, you still need to grant Tamamo a concept before you can sleep
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>Independent Manifestation: A [WisUp!]
>This skill grants Sakura the ability to manifest wherever she wishes within temporal reality. Though changing the past of the unbranching timeline is impossible, this skill can easily facilitate travel to adjacent worlds. Many of the original aspects of this skill have been nullified, and Sakura is capable of freely making use of it without the destruction of humanity occurring as a result. In addition, at this rank, this skill is a declaration of Tiamat and Sakura's presence across Space-Time, and grants immunity to both erasure through Time Paradoxes as well as the imposition of instantaneous death.
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>>4897908
I feel like we need to create 3 new treasures before talking to amaterasu
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>>4897903
>No, you still need to grant Tamamo a concept before you can sleep.
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>>4897903
>No, you still need to grant Tamamo a concept before you can sleep.
And here we go.
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>>4897912
Now sakura can follow her sister to other worlds to do shit.
>sakura and rin wander the multiverse to save sakuras and rins
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>>4897912
Oops, tricked you, anon.
That's not what got changed this time!
Just forgot to change the WisUp!
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It's kinda hard to argue if these three agree on something. But I get the feeling Shinji will be burning a lot of juice on plans tomorrow.

Does Satsuki need to be fed or is she good?
What about Flat, he didn't seem in immediate danger right?
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>>4897913
Nigger`s preparation plan is also really solid for this.
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>>4897903
>No, you still need to grant Tamamo a concept before you can sleep.
Do you think Ammy will let us sleep on her fluffy tails?
God I hope so.
The fluffiest.
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>Sea of Humanity: EX [WisUp!]
>Tiamat's changed authority. Complete and total control over the "Sea From Which Progress Itself is Sprung" this authority has been enhanced by the application of the concept of 'Progress'. Any non-human organism that is touched by the Sea of Humanity is fundamentally changed and rewritten as one of 'Tiamat's Children' that is to say, they become human, and an inescapable geas that goes beyond cellular life is applied to the being. Anything that can possibly be envisioned as 'life' to the naked eye will be incapable of resisting this power.
>A human touched by this sea will not be altered physically in any meaningful way, but they will become completely subservient to Tiamat nonetheless... if Tiamat wishes for subservience, at least.
>Tiamat's control, and by extension, Sakura's control over this ability is impossibly precise, and she can choose whether or not she wishes to manifest it.
>Of course, this authority can still be wielded to create and manipulate the traditional Sea of Life, but Tiamat prefers not to rely on this ability now that she has the ability to manifest the Sea of Humanity.
Tiamat doesn't want to hurt anyone anymore.
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>>4897922
>Does Satsuki need to be fed or is she good?
She got her dose in the morning.
>What about Flat, he didn't seem in immediate danger right?
We were gone for some time so maybe some of our allies showed initiative and solved some things themselves like solving problems with Iskandar, Flat and Monica`s balkan problem.
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>>4897931
I always knew she was a good girl.
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>>4897926
>you sleep for thousands years
>you awake well rested
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>>4897903
>Thank them for caring so much about you. Tell them they are right. But you worry about the women you love too. You'd like to give them something that will protect them when you're not with them. It will help put your mind at ease.
>Ask Touko to use her new powers to create a yojimbo puppet that will serve as a bodyguard for Tamamo.
>While Touko is working, ask Sakura to come outside for a moment. You know she's strong, the strongest person you know, but you still worry about her safety. Ask her to summon two Shadow Giants. Concept one with Tutelary. Concept the other with Shinobi.
>Concept Touko's puppet with Yojimbo, and give it to your fox wife as a gift to keep her safe.
>Ask Tamamo if she can make a superb nonmagical mirror so you can replace the one you broke. Concept it with Chie if she can. Promise you' ll make a replacement as soon as possible if she can't.
>Ask the girls what happened with Monica, Gray and Flat, and if they know if Iskandar is still safe in Rin's pocket dimension.
>Tell Tamamo you want to grant her a concept, but you know it will result in Amaterasu grabbing you to the past for a chat. Ask her if she feels like it is good idea to do so now or wait for mirror or do three regalia too if it helps.
>Accept her decision and either grant her a concept now, or go to bed. If it comes to meeting Amaterasu, ask Sakura to escort you there. She is the only one who can.

>Chie(知恵)
A female Japanese name meaning Blessings of Wisdom, among other things. – Literally what the mirror used to be.
Japanese concept for a Japanese item to a Japanese person.
Meaning :
知 meaning know, wisdom. / 恵 meaning favor, blessing, grace, kindness.
Theme :
(知) literature / (恵) tender, earth, receive someone's love

A Blessing of True Wisdom to replace her Blessing of Amaterasu. It will be stronger than her old one, that's for sure.

>Yojimbo(用心棒, Yōjinbō, "Bodyguard")
More than a simple samurai, and exactly what our squishy Caster Fox Wife needs for her protection when we're not around.

>Tutelary
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tutelary_deity
>A tutelary (/ˈtutlˌɛri/ or /ˈtjutlˌɛri/) (also tutelar) is a minor-deity or a spirit who is a guardian, patron, or protector of a particular place, geographic feature, person, lineage, nation, culture, or occupation. The etymology of "tutelary" expresses the concept of safety and thus of guardianship.
Sakura is very strong herself, especially now. She doesn't need a bodygyard, but someone watching over her. A Tutelary Shadow instead of a Tutelary Spirit.

>Shinobi
I don't think I need to tell you what a Shinobi is, or why Sakura having one that is immune to magic and literally made out of shadow will prove extremely useful.
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>>4897935
>We were gone for some time so maybe some of our allies showed initiative and solved some things themselves like solving problems with Iskandar, Flat and Monica`s balkan problem.
That would have been pretty damn swell.

Unless Iskandar got carded and Waver is busy breaking down. Something to check in on I guess.
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>>4897931
Yep. Mommy Tiamat is no longer dangerous for her children. Unless they misbehave, that is.
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>>4897940
Wisdom Concepts mess with peoples heads. That is vetoed.
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>>4897947
The mirror doesn't have a head.
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>>4897949
Didn't see that, I've been having to manually refresh my pages to see anything for the last 4 hours.
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>>4897903
Calling in 30.
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>>4897952
That's rough anon. I hope you can fix whatevere's wrong by tomorrow, or the carnival will be less fun for you. Do you have any other problems with the plan?

And Chie wasn't originally my idea either. It was the nigger's
>>4893912
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I'm crashing. If this goes through I'm going to busy.
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>>4897954
Nah, go for it. My computer is trying to melt.
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>>4897958
Won't you vote for it then?
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>>4897954
Wait, how is Sakura going? She is Nullification, transport effects don't work on her?
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>>4897962
Indomitable Sakura can control Nullifcation fully, and her Independent Manifestation is what allows her to come with. Helpfully already linked by anon here >>4897912
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>>4897940
Might want to take up Medea's stimulant spell for all that though.
Or can that all be done without collapsing midpoint?
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>>4897903
Going with reposted nigs plan
>>4897940
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>>4897903
>>4897940
Support
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>>4897903
>>4897940
+1.

This might be a tad TOO much autism for me.
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>>4897965
We might need it for Amaterasu, but the rest are just four small concepts like Paladin Beaky or Medea's Hypasipst. We should be fine.
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>>4897903
alright then let's do it. >>4897940
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>>4897970
>a tad TOO much autism for me.
Thanks anon!
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That's a big write-in...
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>>4897903
No, you still need to grant Tamamo a concept before you can sleep
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>>4897976
Just do it in steps. I say do like the 3 first steps on one update, and go on from then.
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Once again, tallyman would like to ask people to mark their previous vote when switching. Thanks

>>4897976
You can just break it up. You've done that before.
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>>4897980
K.

This is my old vote>>4897916
Ignore it, this is the new one.>>4897970
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>>4897976
You keep requiring it.
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>>4897983
Thanks anon!
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>>4897976
for you
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>>4897940
>>4897903
+1
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>>4897903
>>4897940
For concepts we should also go with Niggerman`s >>4897506
>Eclipse for Tamamo
>Temperance for Ammy
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>>4897953
Calling and tally?
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>>4898004

>>4897903

>No, you still need to grant Tamamo a concept before you can sleep.
>>4897908
>>4897926
>>4897977

>Non-combat autism, check post for details
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>>4897908
>>4897926
>No, you still need to grant Tamamo a concept before you can sleep.


>>4897940
>>4897966
>>4897967
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>>4897991
>Thank them for caring so much about you. Tell them they are right. But you worry about the women you love too. You'd like to give them something that will protect them when you're not with them. It will help put your mind at ease.
>Ask Touko to use her new powers to create a yojimbo puppet that will serve as a bodyguard for Tamamo.
>While Touko is working, ask Sakura to come outside for a moment. You know she's strong, the strongest person you know, but you still worry about her safety. Ask her to summon two Shadow Giants. Concept one with Tutelary. Concept the other with Shinobi.
>Concept Touko's puppet with Yojimbo, and give it to your fox wife as a gift to keep her safe.
>Ask Tamamo if she can make a superb nonmagical mirror so you can replace the one you broke. Concept it with Chie if she can. Promise you' ll make a replacement as soon as possible if she can't.
>Ask the girls what happened with Monica, Gray and Flat, and if they know if Iskandar is still safe in Rin's pocket dimension.
>Tell Tamamo you want to grant her a concept, but you know it will result in Amaterasu grabbing you to the past for a chat. Ask her if she feels like it is good idea to do so now or wait for mirror or do three regalia too if it helps.
>Accept her decision and either grant her a concept now, or go to bed. If it comes to meeting Amaterasu, ask Sakura to escort you there. She is the only one who can.
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>>4897940
Three (3) (tres) paragraphs from the girls about exhaustion and you push this much activity.

Should've stopped at Yojimbo and gone to Tamamo's room for the night to deal with the rest early in the morning.

Shinji's gonna break, F
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>>4898077
The world ends tomorrow if we fail, i feel like overworking is fine in this context.
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>>4898081
A Tutelary is a Deity. For somereason this is happening first of all things.

Shinji is gonna shit the bed even attempting this atm.
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You guys know that Tiamat is still actually naked right now, right?
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>>4898085
So? We can just get her some clothes later can’t we.
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>>4898077
It's not really THAT much activity though. Not compared to heading to time traveling to Amaterasu right away. And going to Tamamo's room to rest? Surely you must be joking.

>>4898085
No one else seems to have a problem. I don't see why we should.
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>>4898085
and? Regardless of the sexual part, i find the naked female body quite beautiful.
Let her be naked, if she want clothes she will ask.
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>>4898090
I just thought it was funny.
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>dedicate a sizable portion of the update to mention how shinji is DROPDEAD EXHAUSTED
>best i can give you is 7 concepts. take it or take 4 instead.
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>>4898094
Its more hot than funny.
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>>4898098
>"can't sleep, angry loli will kill us"
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>The three of you continue the hug for a few minutes, until it reaches a natural stopping point, and you all break off from the hug, Sakura looks at you with concern in her eyes after she does, and gives you a small smile. "Onii-chan... there are bags under your eyes." She has a gentle look on her face as she reminds you of just how tired you are. Your body might be superhuman, but... even you aren't immune to the rigor of fatigue. "You should think about getting some rest soon."

Sakura should really be refusing Shinji's autism here
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>>4898098
Where's your motivation anon?
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>>4898110
Shinji hasn't had a single Monster all day.
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>>4898106
Well, it wouldn't be that unreasonable, honestly.
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>>4898110
die batman

>>4898094
please just give us an exhaustion dead end in the next update. i really dont want us to enter the final battle with a turbo debuff because we chose to concept every single person we saw.
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>>4898116
Also, i'm down for the medea refresher, even if it isnt the same as sleeping, it can help us do this if needed.
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>>4898077
Honestly, I expect Shinji to do half, or maybe a quarter of his assignments before starting to go full La-li-lu-le-lo and go on a rant about having so much work to do, only to get yoinked by Sakura into a ribbon burrito.

Seaweed-kun deserves some actual rest.
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>>4898146
Only if the meme votes pour in.
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We should concept BB to give her power and get loyalty.

Find a way to safely concept Iskander. Have Madea buff the human characters to make them useful. Get Kay out of the lance using Illya. Then move on to the final battle.

Even if we concept everyone Manaka will just have counters. Thinking about it bring Tiamat outside was a mistake because now Manaka is aware of her power up.
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>>4898233
sneed
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"Thank you, everyone... for caring so much about me." You smile at the three women who are so concerned about you, but you shake your head. "You're right, but... I worry about all of you just as much as you worry about me, you know." You can't just go to sleep just yet, not when there's still so much to be done. "I'd like to give you something that will be able to protect you when I'm not there to protect you myself... it will... put my mind at ease." You really worry about the girls you love, they might all have tremendous amounts of power in their own right, but you simply can't help but worry about them. About what could happen to them if you allowed yourself to become careless, or if you weren't there to protect them from whatever enemies Manaka intends to throw your way next.

"Are you sure, Shinji...? You've already done so much today already, I... worry about you going too far." Tiamat wraps one of her arms around yours as she looks at you with those beautiful eyes of hers, and you find yourself struggling to defy the woman, her motherly actions providing you with almost zero opportunity to refuse her, but you shake your head.

"Yes, I'm sure, Tiamat. I can't allow myself to rest yet." Sakura, Medea, Tiamat, Tamamo, and even Touko frown at that comment. Or to put things in another way, the entire room frowned at your decision, seems like the women around you aren't all that happy with your decision to keep working, but... you have to. There's too much at stake for you to rest. "Shishou... can you create a puppet in the shape of a yojimbo for me? I want to see if I can't create something using your ability to create an autonomous guardian." You call to your teacher, who shrugs.

"I suppose so, Wakame-kun. But... I'm also worried for you, you know? You might not be aware of it yourself, but... after you came back from your sister's inner world, you've looked absolutely exhausted. I believe that your adrenaline is pumping at such a degree that you've not noticed your own fatigue. So I'll do as you ask, but... the moment I think you're pushing yourself too far, I'll drag you to your bed myself." Touko makes a threat towards you, though... you can't really call it a threat. More a warning made out of concern for your health. Why is everyone treating you like you're some sort of fragile china doll again? You've been empowered with the essence of a dragon! You're one of the most powerful people on the planet! You don't need to be coddled like you're a child! Well... if you hadn't wanted that, then... it might've been an idea to leave Tiamat within Sakura instead of taking her out with you, her doting you like she's a loving mother is really something you probably ought to have expected from her of all people.
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"Thank you, Touko, now... do you need any resources, or...?" You ask the woman, normally, the creation of a puppet body requires a good deal of preparation, but you suppose that this allows you a good opportunity to just see how much the application of Touko's concept has actually empowered her. With any luck, with her now massively superhuman speed, her rate of work will also be superhuman. She was already an ace at puppet creation, able to finish advanced puppets in only a few hours, but that was before she naturally had a level of speed and strength that is far beyond normal human beings, and far beyond herself as she was before being granted her new immaculate body for that matter.

"Oh, I should do fine with what I have on hand, I can always visit your workshop for more resources, if I need them." Touko didn't seem all that bothered by the idea of working without a workshop. Looks like the woman is also eager to test out her new abilities, and you're glad that she's willing to humor you.

"Thank you, Shishou, I can always count on you!" You thank your teacher in earnest, you really mean it too. You know that Touko will never let you down. Honestly, you've half a mind to think that if you just pleaded hard enough with her back when she first became your teacher, that she'd have ended up taking it upon herself to save Sakura... though at the time, you wouldn't have wanted to push your luck with your teacher. Now though, you can't help but think that if you really pushed the issue with her, she would've eventually relented and shown Zouken the difference between a Clocktower magus ranked Grand and one ranked Brand. For her tearing out the Heart Worm placed inside Sakura probably wouldn't have been very difficult, and even if it were, she could've just prepared a puppet body for Sakura to be placed inside while she operated on her body. You... probably could've relied upon Touko a lot more, when you think about it. You sometimes get the feeling that the woman acts far harder than she actually is. At her heart, for the people that she actually cares for, you don't think she'd allow them to actually suffer if they truly asked her to help them overcome a problem, no matter how much she was under the belief that it would've been better for them to deal with the problem themselves.

"Don't mention it, Wakame-kun." Touko stretches a little as she throws her expended cigarette out of the open window before slamming it shut. She then starts to retrieve all sorts of magical tools from her pockets, and you turn towards Sakura.
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"Sakura... while Touko creates this puppet for me, could you... follow me? I want to talk to you about something outside." You want to see about granting Sakura a few more concepts. You don't really think that she herself needs anything that would grant her even more power, but things that would grant her additional utility would always be beneficial, and you want to find out if you can grant concepts to even things like her summoned Shadow Giants. Of course, it's kind of strange for you to ask Sakura about a familiar creation ability that she hasn't actually exhibited in front of you, or more likely, at all, but... you can probably maneuver your way through that.

"OK, Onii-chan!" Sakura is always quick to agree to following you, and doesn't waste a second to start tailing you out of the room, through the hallways, and out into the back courtyard. You really have to thank whoever was responsible for the repairs done on the house in your absence, seriously. There wasn't a blade of grass out of place in the garden, and the house was completely undamaged, you don't know which of your allies is responsible for fixing your home, but... you'll need to find out which one it was in the morning and then thank them personally for a job well done.

When you stand outside in the garden with Sakura, the girl looks up at the stars in the sky. It's a perfect moon-lit night, and though the air is cold enough that the two of you can see the vapor in your breath freezing into sparkling dust as it is carried away by brisk wind of the night. "Sakura." you speak to your sister as she looks out into the cosmos. Out of the corner of your eye, you can see Tiamat clumsily trying to hide herself in the hallway, her humongous horns giving her away instantly. Of course, you don't know just how far she can be from Sakura, so it might be that this act of stalking may actually have been required by the link they share! "I want you to see if you can summon some familiars, I have faith in your abilities to do such a thing, and then... then I want to see if they can be imbued with concepts themselves." You ask Sakura to see if she can't summon up some familiars in order for you to grant them additional power, but...

"...No." Sakura crosses her arms as she shakes her head at you. "I'm not going to have you put yourself under any more stress for my sake, Onii-chan. I knew that it would come to this..." She sounds irritated, not at you, but... at herself, it seems? "Tiamat!" She called to the woman standing in the doorframe, and you realize that things... might be about to get dangerous for you. "Help me take my Onii-chan to bed, please? He's acting self-destructive again." Sakura grabs your arm with her hand before you can properly react to her, caught completely off guard, she snakes an arm around your own, and you realize at that moment that you were completely caught by the girl.
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"H-hey! Sakura, what are you doing! I have a lot I need to be getting on with still!" You protest as Tiamat loops her arm around your unrestrained one, and at that moment you realize that there was no escape from the two girls. You... messed up by asking Sakura if she wanted to be granted an additional concept here, it seems...

"I'm taking you to bed, Onii-chan! Somebody needs to make sure that you're looking after yourself, and if I don't do this, you're just going to stress yourself out into passing out again, aren't you?!" She scolds you, and you flinch backwards in surprise. "So... which bedroom should I take you to, anyway? Mine or yours?" She says with a cheeky smirk.

>"Yours?"
>"Mine."
>"...Tamamo's?"
>"...Medea's?"
>Try to break her grip and make a break for it!
>Write-in...
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Shinji probably needs a bath to relax before bed.
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>>4898327
>"Yours?"
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Gil's
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>>4898348
lol
lmao
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>>4898351
If anyone understands overwork it's Gil.
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>>4898353
So does Sakura. She's really been insisting on us taking it easy today.
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>>4898356
based
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>>4898348
He'll fuck us if he wants to. Don't tempt him.
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>>4898356
kek
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>>4898359
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>>4898351
>>4898346
I wonder how big your Sakura folder is.
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>>4898363
I plead the fifth
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>>4898327
>"Yours?"
She got us
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>>4898327
>"Yours?"
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>>4898327
>"Yours?"
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If we're too tired to do much, I doubt Sakura will fuck us.
Likely just cuddle to sleep.
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>>4898327
>"...Tamamo's
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Got up now that it isn't taint melting hot, and found this old gem. Rate Chaldeans new theme song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GISnTECX8Eg
>>4898327
>"Yours?"
>"Is this a trick question?"
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>>4898393
I am expecting smothering between boobas, and not letting us go till we get hours minimum.
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>>4898490
>>4898327
+1
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>>4898327
Meh
>"yours, tiamat may come too, i want to sleep in her or your lap."
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>>4897711
Billy and the Carnival
Shuten and drinking petrol
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>>4898548
>Not drinking Battery Acid out of spite when being told she can't
You think her liver is WEAK?!
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>>4897711
making moonshine with Shuten and blowing up our house and/or giving ourselves blindness in the process
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>>4898553
Why make in our house? We got a shed, unless our gardener set up his own still in there.
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>>4898556
Pure Comedy
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>>4898557
What if the kids offer to help, we can't say no to them, they're our weakness!
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>>4898558
we'll simply involve them in the process
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>>4898559
I don't want our kids to turn into Aunty Shuten at such a young age.
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>>4898566
Alitheia is hopped up on Truth Juice
Betty and Abby are chugging some real space stuff. God knows what Olga has in her system, and the rest will have some wacky power to chug
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>>4898566
we'll just renact that episode of the Simpsons where Homer and Bart make alcohol for the town before Homer catches on fire
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>>4898574
Its one thing to indulge Shuten's hobby, doing it with the kids is another. God knows what the hell she is going to try and brew to kill livers.
>>4898578
...as in we get set on fire, or Shuten gets set on fire? Because I am having a real hard time deciding which of us is Homer and which one is Bart.
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>>4898578
Homer also made his house explode if i remember correctly.
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>>4898621
he didn't destroy it however, just a lot of explosions in his basement
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>>4898625
The bowling ball shit was very fucking clever though.
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>>4898630
Homer is both a very clever and very dumb man, that's why old Simpsons was really good. His bowling ball idea was genius, his homebrewing was not
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>>4898327
>Could you take me to Rin's room? I just have some pressing questions for her about possible timelines after what just happened inside Tiamat's conceptual world. You two are welcome to sit in with us, I promise I won't go about using my abilities. I'll head to bed right after.

So with Rin, we can ask about Amethyst too and get that happening in the background, talk about timeline theories with her due to her Second Magic experience.

Maybe also talk a bit about the whatif Shinjis she might have seen, EMIYA as an outcome etc.

Actual proper infodump convo before bed and also having some proper platonic interactions with a friend. Shinji is an autistic friendlet atm and Rin is healthy for him to interact with, she's one of the only people that questions him.
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>>4898722
Also, Tiamat should be personally interested in this, and Rin's reaction to mum (grande) should be pretty funny.
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>>4898327
Supporting >>4898722
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>>4898327
Switching>>4898490
to this>>4898722
I want to see her have a stroke at the idea we accidentally a split timeline.
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>>4898728
We need to have Tiamat stand behind the door, and then start the conversation with Rin like. "So please don't freak out. I may have done something." Then she sees Tiamats horn around the corner and starts pointing at it. Shinji just no sells her terror saying Mama Tia is going to be introduced to everyone in the morning, but that isn't what I'm talking about. Then ask her if she's noticed anything, weird, in the multiverse.
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>>4898327
>"Yours?"
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>Mirror broken
>outright ignored when she comes out to see her husband
>passed up for others again

CBT soon.
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>>4898327
amending
>>4898722
to include:

>Could you take me to Rin's room? I just have some pressing questions for her about possible timelines after what just happened inside Tiamat's conceptual world. You two are welcome to sit in with us, I promise I won't go about using my abilities. I'll head to bed right after.
>Wish everyone goodnight, as you leave
>tell Tamamo you'll get to making her gift in the morning once you're sufficiently rested to ensure you're not cutting corners due to fatigue
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>>4898327
>>4898775
Seconding Amended idea.>>4898796
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>>4898327
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>>4898796
Amending too.
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>>4898327
change >>4898506
to >>4898722 + >>4898796
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>>4898781
I want to see redman's reaction to Tiamat.
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>>4898807
I wonder what he's been up to. But yeah, its gonna be real damn funny when Tiamat tries to mom him.
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>>4898327

this sounds good >>4898796

Why is there a naked Tiamat in my room? What's wrong with you?!
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>>4898815
>She's still naked
I forgot about that.
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>>4898820
really adds to the flavour of the scene, with Shinji being completely nonchalant about the whole situation
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>>4898823
Do you think we make Rin want to chug bleach?
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>>4898825
we seem to MOTIVATE her out of pure frustration
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>>4898825
it's not a saberface but she'll be fine
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>>4898796
So, we are in the hands of the girl Shinji supposedly loves the most. She's inviting him to bed for some wholesome cuddling before the sleep he sorely needs (because of course it won't be sex. She wants Shinji to rest and sex isn't rest). And you want to decline her invitation and tell her you'd prefer to go to her sister's bedroom and talk about work instead. A bold move, nigger. A bold move.
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>>4898825
She will probably like the view.
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>>4898826
I am going to start worrying when we don't get a reaction from her anymore. I feel like we broke her.
>>4898827
Yeah, she's just gonna take up recreational drinking.
>>4898831
We aren't collapsing yet. And what needs to be done needs to be done. And it will be hilarious.
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>>4898831
It's just a little bedside chat. She can keep holding Shinji the entire time.
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>>4898832
Would that be enough of a consolation prize?
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>>4898827
Poor Obi, her master shows absolutely zero interest in her.

Maybe we see if Rin would like to take over, potentially for Nobu? Nobu would maybe appreciate the even large mana supply.

>>4898831
We're asking to talk to her sister, with her coming along, who is the ic the worldline expert due to her use of the Second. We're trying to talk about an immediate, pressing issue regarding something that directly concerns Tiamat, who is herself very interested. A potential new timeline is kind of a big deal.

There's nothing stopping us going back to cuddle after the fact, either. I specified a conversation, without use of our powers.
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>>4898833
>We aren't collapsing yet
And that's precisely what she's so worried about. Shinji pushing himself until he collapses. Again.
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>>4898837
>There's nothing stopping us going back to cuddle after the fact
You are not specifying that. Just a vague "I'll head to bed right after.". Change it to specify, and I guess I'll have no objection.
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>>4898837
also we get the joy of scaring the shit out of redman and rin when we just appear with a beast, a very naked and beautiful former beast.
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>>4898837
Wait, is Obi in there with her and Emiya? She's gonna get fat Dragon Mom tats to the eyes too.
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>>4898838
We're just chatting and getting ready to give her sister a migraine at accidentally breaking reality as she knows it again, then asking if she'd be willing to take a poke at it.
>>4898839
He doesn't need to, we're going to do it anyways.
>>4898840
Is this going to be the craziest thing they have seen us do?
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>>4898841
who knows where she's sleeping?
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>>4898847
>Is this going to be the craziest thing they have seen us do?
Not for Rin.
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>>4898841
fair point, where could Obeithion be now?

In spiritual form around Sakura?
With Billy?
Talking shop with Morgan or Arcueid?
Discussing Saber things with other Sabers? Except Artoria prime which is likely busy.
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>>4898847
>we're going to do it anyways.
Are we? Or is the nigger going to come up with another plan to sidetrack us?

>Is this going to be the craziest thing they have seen us do?
Probably not even in the top 5.
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>>4898848
I would have thought she'd be near Rin. Unless she's with Billy right now....
>>4898849
Right. Multiverse TV right in her hands.
>>4898850
I just hope she isn't near Merlin.
>>4898851
>Are we? Or is the nigger going to come up with another plan to sidetrack us?
Just shut up, we doing it.
>Probably not even in the top 5.
I mean in scale, just making it so Tiamat can walk around and do mom things, no. But accidentally doing that at the same time as making a whole new history tree is, well, pretty big. Kinda surprised she hasn't come out to strangle us yet...
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>>4898853
>Just shut up, we doing it.
You really don't want to us to head to bed with Sakura, do you?
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>>4898856
Shut up Autist. We are doing it after. Quite bitching.
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>>4898857
Saiyanigger? Is that you? And is this another thing you want to do just because you think it'll upset me?
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>>4898859
bruh I updated it a bit lower
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>>4898858
Yes it is me. No I could not care. Your just a whining bitch right now. Go stare at your Sakura folder while everyone gets some last minute work set up to deal with. Shut the fuck up.
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>>4898327
Switch >>4898346 to
>"Yours?"
>But would you mind if we headed to Rin's room first? I just have some pressing questions for her about possible timelines after what just happened inside Tiamat's conceptual world. You two are welcome to sit in with us, I promise I won't go about using my abilities. We'll head to bed right after.
>Wish everyone goodnight, as you leave
>tell Tamamo you'll get to making her gift in the morning once you're sufficiently rested to ensure you're not cutting corners due to fatigue

No one should object to that, right?
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And this right here folks. Is Autist. Attention whore extraordinaire. Spiting other voters just because he doesn't get things explicitly like he wants. Fucking schizo. NOT YOU VERGIL!
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>>4898796
>>4898503
>>4898327
+1, don't think it matters anymore as Sakura owns us forever now. At least we can cross her Golden Ending off the bucket list, don't really know how it could get better
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>>4898864
Oh and don't let Autist pretending to be nice fool you people. Its entirely because he's a psychopath.
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speaking of Vergil, who's Enhance's Vergil? Is it Shiki? I feel like its Shiki.
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>>4898864
Keep seething, saiyanigger. I'm just amending the plan to include going to Sakura's room for some cuddling. Surely there's no ACTUAL reason to oppose it is there?

>>4898866
lol
lmao
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>>4898867
I guess? I mean, SHIKI is absolutely more immortal than Enhance is. So there's that. Kinda weird to think about, considering we eradicated the evil demon inside that ravaged his mind...
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>>4898871
I say Shiki cause in the proposed sequel, Shiki and Enhance have a little rivalry and uneasy alliance going, also Shiki is an edgelord who can cut anything
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>>4898873
When you put it that way, you do have a point. How do we bring up putting them both in our Not Devil May Cry series?
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We should really come up with a better name for SHIKI because addressing him is awkward as fuck.

Also, is there any reason why even approach Manaka physically at all instead of going at her connection to Root directly? Counter forces should not really mind countering her there, no?
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>>4898877
Yeah, we really should ask him to come up with an alias.

And we have no other way to go at her connection to the Root. The Root is not a physical place that we can reach, somehow.
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>>4898877
CF is free real estate for her. She converts those servants like we do to hers and grandpa's beforehand.
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>>4898877
i like SHIKI
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>>4898877
We can just ask him to come up with a new name.
That won't work, and she also has our Truth Aria ability, there is no telling if that could work, or she set it up to make it so she doesn't get Roa'd
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>>4898881
I blinked and read that as. I AM SHIKI.
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>>4898878
But we have worked with it through existing connections. And we have a mansion full of people with expertise in studying varying facets of it.

Although raising the point openly might be inviting preemptive attack against potential hazards. Depending on what information the girl can intercept tamamo's network or Servant connection may or may not be only secure channels.

I'd rather think manaka is not perfectly omniscient as well as omnipotent because if she is she'll simply obliterate us the moment we come up with plan that might have chance of working. For all the bullshit around us we're still reliant on mortal body.
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>>4898853
>Right. Multiverse TV right in her hands.
Its not that, Rin has seem us transform into a magical girl.
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>>4898885
Reaching the root is many mage's fondest wish. We were able to work through Roa's and Shiki's connection, but we worked through them in both cases. It'll be the same with Manaka. There's no backdoor that we can use.
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>>4898887
We do not speak of that.
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>>4898888
What about the grail ritual? There's bullshit amount of energy around so it shouldn't need to sacrifice anyone.

Alaya could lend some too if she's not compromised already.
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>>4898893
The grail is under Ryoudu temple, right where Manaka is. She controls it. And besides, the Grail has a lot of juice, but it doesn't compare to what Manaka has. Or even to what Sakura has. Our sisterwife has access to seven grails worth of mana, at minimum.
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>>4898893

...actually it probably wouldn't work anyway entirely without sacrifice if it requires at least some sort of information to pour through for the punch to follow. Even if I'm sure there'd be no shortage of volunteers to sacrifice themselves for the sake of the world.

>>4898896
I meant replicating the ritual or using a similar approach, not necessarily using this specific grail.
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>>4898901
Put Alaya into bloodfort
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>>4898903
>He looks like a flaming homo's Stand
Jesus that hurts to look at. That spoiler hurts worse.
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>>4898903
Yes, yes, more of that precious liquid! I can take it all! [Pride]

No.
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>>4898919
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>>4898919
You bring this on yourself when Shinji needs to work, he may have American soul, but his body is Japanese! Working to death is in his blood!
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>>4898923
Isekai Shinji is American?
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>>4898928
It was alluded to, just not which state specifically.
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>>4898928
His native language is English, but I don't think country of origin was ever specified. And he doesn't remember anything about his previous life. He could easily be British, for example.
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>>4898930
The fuck? Why did the ip change again?
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Hold on, poll is being a fuck so we're having technical difficulties.
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>>4898933
Clearly. He’s an Australian Shitposter. If I had even a hint of talent and art skills I’d draw Australian Shinji to go along with this post but I’m a fucking trash artist so can’t do that.
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>>4898945
Poll-maker is trying to track IPs despite specifically being told not to.
Fucking trash website.
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>>4898946
I'll fukken glass ya cunt ayy
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>>4898946
Impossible, we have no instinct to punch kangaroos.
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>>4898949
Would we need to revote on a new poll, or are you getting the mallet and fixing it?
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>>4898327
>yours?
>take a quick hot shower before that, it helps the body relax (we should be clean when sleeping)
>look in the mirror for a minute, we haven't had an opportunity to reflect on ourselves afterall - inspect our physical look for any changes and confirm if Shinji really looks like a wreck
>collapse on the bed afterwards
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Why are we ignoring fox wife?
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>>4898946
Straya's beasts make it this world's endgame zone, so it makes sense, yeah.
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>>4898953
I'm getting the mallet.
but it seems the only actual way to fix it rn is to just disable the ability to see the results for everyone except me.
Which actually, is probably better at avoiding attempts at samefagging specific options.
Fucking Poll-Maker changing their website's mechanics.

>https://www.poll-maker.com/poll3744372xB34d4b02-114
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>>4898956
too tired to fix her shit now, trying to include her first thing tomorrow.

>>4898954
https://youtu.be/P_Fr0euKJLI
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>>4898959
It is for the best, yeah.
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>>4898959
Sounds like a plan then. Godspeed you madman.
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And now it's not even attempting to track anymore.
Garbage website.
I wish Strawpoll didn't have a limit of like 30 options.
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>>4898959
>Bang Bang Pull My Devil Trigger
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>>4898967
So more Mallet or try again with a new one?
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Damn, I don't have nearly as much as I would've liked to have written for today.
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>>4898959
Even tougher competition this time around.
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>>4898990
Seeing as I've not actually got anything prepared for today, I'll write the next three vore-based requests I'm given.
One per person.
No limits.
I'll write anything.
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>>4899002
Manaka eating sakura
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>>4899002
That one story where Angra eats Alberich that we are talked about before.
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>>4899003
Damn
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>>4899002
Fenris story of your choice
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>>4899003
Aw jeez.
Which Manaka?
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>>4899015
Right
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>>4899015
>>4899016
Why?
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>>4899013
Be more specific.
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>>4899019
we'll go with the awakening one, instead of it being the titpillow summoned from INS.
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>>4899018
Why not?
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>>4899018
When I say no limits I mean no limits.
You don't get to be a vorefic writer if you're not willing to erase your favourite characters too.
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>>4899021
Wait, titpillow one?
I must be forgetting something.
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>>4899021
>WhatIs`s super high roll kills Alberich
Based.
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>>4899026
Hecate, Hera's titpillow.

When players WhatIs himself rolled 996 on the INS gacha
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Polite reminder that Sakura is not responsible for her orbiters being obnoxious. She is a sweet girl even if she developed a bit of an unhealthy fixation on her brother. She does not deserve to suffer for that, especially considering that is in itself a punishment.
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>>4899029
t. orbiter
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>>4899029
Personally I wish we also had really pushy Rinfag too.
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>>4899028
Ohhhh
I remember now.
I thought you were calling Fenris a titpillow and got confused.
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>>4899033
That would be a tragic existence. Decks were stacked against Rin from the start.
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>>4899037
A universe where Shinji makes Rin look like an incompetent buffoon is already tragic for Rin.
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Because it will be more interesting, Manaka vs Sakura will have an ending where each win.
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>>4899033
I like Rin a lot but the dice roll kinda fucked us over and I'm not enough of an autist to constantly talk about her
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>>4899029
>She is a sweet girl even if she developed a bit of an unhealthy fixation on her brother
Understatement of the year
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>>4899044
Rin is plenty competent here though? She made the sword and is continually improving her mastery of it. Even recovered her Servant by herself where Shinji had to ask Nyarly for help. Even though that was a diceroll.
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>>4899044
it's worse cause he's not even a dick to her, he's very nice to her
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Rin Prime is the strongest Rin, and she did it through pure seethe without a concept.

We should get her to steal some blank class cards from miyuverse for experiments.
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>>4899060
What a nice gi-
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>>4899057
Despite this he still makes her look incompetent.
That's the worst part.
Her greatest self is still inferior.
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>>4899063
She has yet to accidentally create two world ending bosses over span of two days, I’d say she still wins in terms of competence.
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>>4899060
I wanna give her the concept of Space
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>>4899069
We'd need to fix Tamamo's NP to even hope to have enough mana to process that.

Even with dragon core it seems like a limiter overload deadend.
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>>4899071
This one would probably need Mordred to replicat3 the time antics.

Now for Rin, what would Superposition do? Or actually rather for her sword, or amethyst. Might be broken, or might be… breaking it.
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>>4899065
Or accidentally make the Queen of Dragons. Reverse the Beasthood of the Queen of All life. Accidentally make a whole new timeline tree. Make multiple true immortals. Become the Advisor to the True King of England. Fuck her sister and put five babies in her on the first round. There really is alot that she hasn't and can't do, and she sees us save different versions of her too.
>>4899060
>>4899069
>>4899071
These are the fun to do list items. I think we should make Rin seethe more and get stronger on her own though.
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>>4899076
>Fuck her sister and put five babies in her on the first round
when do you think she's gonna tell us?
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>>4899076
Kinda need to fix fox asap. She's the only person who is actually -1 regarding stuff from Shinji, and from the way he speaks about her in updates, he IC actually really cares for her.

Should probably give some concepts to most of the main og cast for tomorrow too. With Manaka having scuffed Truth now, those we want protected the most either need a concept or to have had something like what Satsuki had happen where she's been consoooming so much Truth fluid she's likely able to overcome Manaka influence.

Truth is the only thing that counters Truth.
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I think Rin having a friend-rival is actually really good for her. For both her magecraft and mental state as the way we do things pushes her into more benevolent direction too.
>>4899060
>>4899069
>>4899075
Since Rin can take and process knowledge and powers of all other Rins, it would be better to concept her to be able to do so easily and not be overwhelmed by all that knowledge and extra powers. Her biggest drawback is now not being able to handle all that infromation.
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>>4899080
When do you think Tiamat is going to slip giving Sakura advice in front of us?
>>4899082
I'm really curious as to what the hell our Truth juice is making her evolve into. And I feel real god damn bad for forgetting her. I want to give her a Concept too. But I'm not sure what. I refuse to let her think she's unwanted and unloved by making her think she doesn't get one. Besides her Garden of course.
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>>4899086
Anything other than maybe Limitless for Satsuki risks just outright cucking her potential, as she is already limitless.

She'll enjoy the fresh dragon core upgraded blood for her next succ at least
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>>4899085
But knowledge Concepts fuck up her mental state anyways. Maybe give her an item with the Concept ability first? That way she can process the information without messing up her brain.
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>>4899087
I wonder if our blood has new flavors each time she drinks us when we do some bullshit to our body. Would we taste like stringy chicken with the Dragon Core? Maybe Gator? Wait, she would never have had the chance to try that. I am now imagining Satsuki turning into Vampire Goku and I don't know how to feel about that.
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>>4899089
Shinji's blood tastes like Monster.
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>>4899092
I'd be worried for her heart if it worked. Plus side, I can't wait to see the bitch that hurt her again. What is that bitch doing wherever she's skulking at?
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>>4899089
our blood is heroin to her
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>>4899088
For Rin?

Just optimise her og Toshaka family speciality, which Zelretch himself found the most apt way to utilise the Second magic with.

So either Transference or Flow.

Melt, through her Saraswati subcomponent has Flow but she mainly uses it for water based stuff. Ironically, this is what Zolgen changes Sakura's Element to.
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>>4899100
Hmmm, those are pretty tempting, but maybe some kind of computer based concept too? I'm not sure how to put it in words, but I keep thinking BB's bullshit cyber stuff. Speaking of, we have not checked on her since she got put in Sakura's control....is she alive?
>>4899098
So what would Dragon do to heroin?
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Tempted to have Fenrir show up in their story as a monster girl.
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>>4899103
>Rin
>computer anything
Don't be dumb, anon.
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>>4899100
True.
And Rin also has access to Bajiquan and related concepts to martial arts as she was more into it because of us.
And
>Nagato viewed magecraft and martial arts as equal paths, originally attempting to reach the root through a state of mushin before encountering the Einzberns and Makiri. He later began to seek to use the Holy Grail for that purpose instead.
Tohsaka family has some other tools in the bloodline that can be busted to synergize well.
Mushin was one of things we talked about for Sasaki before.
>The mind must always be in the state of 'flowing,' for when it stops anywhere that means the flow is interrupted and it is this interruption that is injurious to the well-being of the mind. In the case of the swordsman, it means death.
>When the swordsman stands against his opponent, he is not to think of the opponent, nor of himself, nor of his enemy's sword movements. He just stands there with his sword which, forgetful of all technique, is ready only to follow the dictates of the subconscious. The man has effaced himself as the wielder of the sword. When he strikes, it is not the man but the sword in the hand of the man's subconscious that strikes.
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>>4899108
Just as god intended.

If you want skill ideas, I have some fanmade cringe to steal from

https://aminoapps. com/c/fate-stay-night-1/page/blog/fenrir-berserker-of-white/ngRM_LMHLuVR2nMo5QxR5gN7gwW7zwZ7WB
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>>4899110
Shit, your right, if anything would possibly reject our Concept, that might do it. Rin has been doing pretty well, so I forgot.
>>4899113
She looks grumpy.
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>>4899116
She's hangry.
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>>4899113
>Alberich goes for the tummy
>Gets eaten
It`s like poetry, it rhymes.
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>>4899118
Does she require Boorga?
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>>4899121
She's a big fan of all things divine.
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>>4899124
She and Illya would get along then.
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>>4899121
She is more of a Dunkin' Donuts person.
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>>4899121
She can only be satisfied by Gods and the sun.
She's a hungry girl.
We should summon fenrir as a countermeasure to Amaterasu desu.
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>>4899125
cup of heaven is also on the menu
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>>4899124
Wait....the fuck is that pic?
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>>4899126
She shouldn't eat shit, that would make her sick.
>>4899127
...Can we Concept the sun to something and have her eat that?
>>4899128
Obi's cup? We aren't making our, grown daughter, share her sippy cup,
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>>4899135
I ask again. Why?
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>>4899140
EVA 2.
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>>4899132
>She shouldn't eat shit, that would make her sick.
She eats gods, eating shit is basically her job.
>...Can we Concept the sun to something and have her eat that?
Dead end.
>Obi's cup?
Are the Saberfaces confusing you?
>>4899128
For her story she's eating everyone in Alberich's house one by one.
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>>4899138
American spin on the idea of fat ugly bastard maybe
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>>4899145
Didn't she have the cup of heaven, or is it cup of salvation?
>>4899147
no way, not ugly enough.
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>>4899149
Speedread-kun?
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>>4899149
anyway going by the picture it's because family guy online is shortened to FGO.
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>>4899151
No, its been a long time since we saw her cup, and I can't remember.
>>4899152
I forgot that was a thing too.
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>>4899155
Obi has pretty big cups, but not the sort you're thinking of.
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>>4899156
One might say they were, overflowing.
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OK you have 30 minutes to vote on one of these three to be first.
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>>4899206
>Sakura Matou Holy Grail speedrun.
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>>4899206
Hmmm.
>Sakura Matou Fifth Grail War Any% WR Attempt.
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I just realized Gilgamesh needs to see his mom again, and get his and Enkidu's thoughts on the possible other timeline.
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>>4899206
Schizoservant Shinji.
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>>4899206
Sakura Matou
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>>4899206
>Schizo Shinji

What kind of power is this?
I approve.
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>>4899206
>schizo
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>>4899206
Manaka
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>>4899206
Sakura
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Manaka vs Sakura: https://0bin.net
/paste/IIefEnWS#lcGAiFU56dVfDTSB1b6abxhNaJUrtKy7Y5VeYL3aouQ

I guess.
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>>4899365
How do I use this?
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Sakura yawned tiredly as she opened her eyes, and then she froze. This... this was all wrong. This must be a nightmare. This wasn't a bedroom she ever wanted to be waking up in again. Yet... for some reason, here she was. She rubbed her temples in deep thought, and she could feel that Tiamat was still within her, and the powers that her dearest elder brother had given her were still very much present. So she really didn't know what was going on.

She walked over to her wardrobe in order to get dressed, slipping on the usual outfit for Homurahara Academy with a frown. Her body... despite having Tiamat within her, felt... less developed. She was determined to find out what had happened, but the moment she stepped out of the door, she saw the very last thing she wanted to see in the world.

"Ah! There you are, Sakura!" Zouken. Her Grandfather. Back alive again, though reduced in stature to the pitiful state he was in before he became a Beast. "I felt something strange Sakura. I can't help but notice that you've somehow managed to rid yourself of the crest worms, so I'd like to know what you-" Sakura waved her hand in Zouken's direction, calling forth a triumphant amount of magical energy and erasing the worm through the quantity alone as the explosion created from her careless use of her own power incinerated the man in seconds.

Half of the Makiri Mansion had been carelessly destroyed by Sakura killing her grandfather, and in just under a minute, a familiar face revealed herself. Medusa, ready for combat as a Servant appeared, nail and chain drawn as she looked around to see the cause of the attack. "Sakura! It's dangerous! Find somewhere to hide!" Medusa ordered her, and Sakura shook her head. What was going on here? She didn't feel a connection to Medusa? She couldn't feel one to Obeithion either, but... it was stranger that she couldn't feel one to Medusa, who was in front of her like this.

"Damn it, Rider! Wasn't it supposed to be your job to protect us from enemies attacking us?!" A strangely familiar whiny voice suddenly called out from behind Rider, and there she saw him. No. It wasn't him. This wasn't her elder brother. This skinny runt. The way he carried himself, the way he dressed, even the way he looked at her with a note of disgust in his eyes. This 'thing' wasn't her elder brother.

"Medusa. Kill that doppelganger standing behind you, immediately." Sakura looked at the fake with dead eyes. This boy had no right to exist with 'his' face. She'd sooner have this fake's face torn off than let him remain existing.
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"S-Sakura?" Medusa looked startled by the sudden order to kill Shinji, and Sakura's face didn't budge an inch. This fake was going to die. For simply having the audacity to pretend to be the man she loved, and to see that wonderful body of his reduced to such a pitiful state, to s̮̟̥u̺̭͓̞̩c͓͞h͇̥ ̱͕͕̟̫̻aṉ ͖͈̹̖p̬̹͙̗͟i̜͇̟̰̗̜̙e̪̯̖̖͝c̛̻͈e̙̜̣̬̠̱ ͕o̟̦͇̺͍̗f̳͈̱͇̱̘́ ̡̭̦̭l̥͙͈̻̜͖̣i͈̝̭͉v̢̩̫i͡n̬͓͍g͓ ̤̯̘͕̥̣̖g̸̘̗͚̰a͍͍̣̰̯̹r̭̙̙b̘̠͚̤̳a̦͓̭ͅg̙͓͟e͈͈̹͇̙̬.̪͚͕

"You've... changed." The fake made a very obvious observation as he took a step back from both his Servant and Sakura. Then, in a pathetic note of panic, he managed to squeak out "Rider! Kill her!" The fake suddenly reached into his pocket and brandished a book at Rider, who struggled for a moment before flinging herself towards Sakura with her nail and chain jangling as she did.

Sakura allowed the nails to hit her, and they bounced harmlessly off of her body, before she lightly slapped Medusa away from her, sending her crashing through half a dozen walls. "You're not my Onii-chan. So could you please die?" Sakura didn't allow the fake to answer as she sent a single ribbon forwards towards the fake and slashed him into two separate pieces. Killing him instantly.

A few seconds after the two halves of the fake dropped to the ground, she felt the power of the command spells flowing back to her, and her command spells reappeared. Medusa was fine, at least. Sakura worried that she might have hit the woman with a little bit too much power. She really didn't want to hurt Medusa, but she acted almost on impulse as Rider dashed towards her.

"Medusa! Tell me everything that has happened since you were summoned!" Sakura shouted at her Servant, who peeled herself from the rubble before bowing.

"Very well, Sakura... First off..." Medusa explained all that had happened, and Sakura frowned. An alternate timeline? It had to be. She supposed that she could just wait for Rin to arrive and bring her home or try to use her Independent Manifestation to return home, but... She didn't want to return just yet.

<The next day>

"Berserker! What are you doing!?" Illyasviel's voice called out in panic as she watched her Servant struggle to grapple with Sakura, who was crushing the hands of the giant as the two of them clashed. "Use all your strength and crush her! You can't just lose to a human like this, you're the strongest, right?!" Sakura felt bad for Illyasviel, but... she wasn't the one who initiated the fight. In fact, she tried to speak to Illyasviel first, but the girl was way too quick to have her Servant attack her, so it left Sakura with no choice but to deal with Berserker herself.
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The fight came to a climactic ending when Sakura pierced one of her ribbons straight through Berserker's chest and wrapped it around his heart before infusing it with enough magical energy to kill the self-resurrecting Servant and burn through his entire stock of lives in a single strike. The explosion of black magical energy knocked Illyasviel backwards, and the girl would've surely died had Medusa not been there to catch her and prevent her from dashing her head against the concrete at high speed.

Dealing with Medea was a simple affair. She had found a normal human to fall in love with, and clearly wanted no part of the Holy Grail War anymore. It was a simple matter for Sakura to conjure the Sea of Humanity and allow her to bathe within it, losing her form as a Servant and becoming a human, after that, the two of them disappeared from Fuyuki, never to be seen again. That suited Sakura just fine though.

After Medea had been dealt with, Sakura took a trip to Fuyuki Church, the building that had been destroyed before the war began in her world. She knew that Kirei Kotomine had to die, and wasted absolutely no time in confronting the tall man. "So... you believe that I'm somehow manipulating the war for my own means, young Matou? Well, as fanciful a story that is, I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask you to leave." Sakura knew that Kotomine was simply stalling for time, and the reason why he was became perfectly clear an instant later.

"Gae Bolg!" A spear was thrust through her body, piercing her heart and shredding her insides to pieces as it was pulled loose for her body. "Master... you're one hell of a sloppy bastard, you know that?" Lancer regarded Kotomine with disgust in his eyes, taking his attention off of Sakura for just long enough for her to recover from his cursed strike. "W-wait, what the-!?" Lancer was swiftly crushed by a tide of darkness, his body instantly destroyed by Sakura's power.

"Lancer?!" Kotomine sounded startled by the rapid death of his Servant, before he was cut into pieces by a barrage of razor sharp ribbons. A macabre display leaving Kirei looking more like raw ground beef than it did a human corpse.

With that out of the way, there was just one last thing she needed to take care of...

Convincing Rin and Shirou to work together against a powerful Servant that remained from the last war was... difficult. But thanks to Saber backing Sakura up about Gilgamesh, the three had managed to agree to an alliance against Gilgamesh.

"So, you three are the mongrels who are planning on-" Gilgamesh suddenly lost his voice when he looked at Sakura, before he snarled. "So, it's you! Tiamat! This is how you choose to manifest, is it?!" Out of nowhere, the man pulled forth his ultimate weapon and pointed it at the three of them, the dials upon the weapon already spinning as it began to activate. Gilgamesh wasn't messing around... but neither was Sakura.
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As Ea began to activate, black swirls of magic started to appear around Gilgamesh, and Sakura called forth the limits of her power to accomplish something that could be only be called her ultimate technique. the ground that Gilgamesh was standing on floated free of the earth, and he was bound through the powerful magic of the technique. "Disappear, King of Heroes. I'll erase you from this universe." Sakura spoke coldly, as the energy began to build up. "Cursed Cutting Crater!" Sakura yelled out the name of her ultimate technique, and the black ball of energy around Gilgamesh glowed pure white for a fraction of a second before imploding into nothingness. Gilgamesh was gone. Every threat within the Fifth Holy Grail War had been dealt with.

World Record (Sakura Route) Attained
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Another tie means I need another tie breaker.
Vote for one of these.
40 minutes.
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>>4899388
MAnaka
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>>4899388
>Medea Fifth Grail War Any% WR Attempt
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>>4899388
Medea
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>>4899388
>Manaka
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>>4899365
Whew.

Gotta respect your commitment to your word. That was painful.

>>4899388
Medea
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Why do people want the speed runs instead of original oc stories?
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>>4899386
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6GX3k57tjU

What a great start to the Carnival.
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>>4899365
Solid misery porn, I have to say.
And pretty brutal executions.
>>4899382
Just a normal Sakura who really loves her onii-chan.
>>4899386
And he jobs again. Typical Gil.
>>4899388
Medea.
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>>4899388
Manaka
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>>4899388
Medea
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>>4899386
What's our Sakura's morality like? Would she help innocent people in danger if she could, or would she not care?
I get she'd kill anyone we told her to at this point, but would she feel bad over it, or not care at all since we're the ones that said it?
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>>4899388
Medea
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>>4899416
He pulled out Ea immediately, so points for trying i guess
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>>4899365
Man imagining sakura in all that pain was a joy. Thanks man.
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>>4899388
Manaka
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>>4899388
Tally?
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>>4899444
Medea won
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>>4899444

>>4899388

>Manaka
>>4899389
>>4899403
>>4899418
>>4899436

>Medea Fifth Grail War Any% WR Attempt
>>4899396
>>4899401
>>4899406
>>4899416
>>4899419
>>4899421
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>>4897765
is me btw, IP may have changed. here's a sneakypeek
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>>4899513
Cute as fuck.
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>>4899513
Oh, wow, that's frigging great drawfren.

Will you post it even if it doesn't win?
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>>4899523
Yeah i mean why would i go through the effort to make it and then not post it rumao
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>>4899534
Well, you might have chosen to continue teasing us with snippets.
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Medea blinked. One moment she was with Shinji, and the next. Him. Atrum Galliasta. Her original Master, and the man who summoned her. "Well? Answer me, Servant!" Atrum demanded an answer for something from Medea as she zoned out, and the woman just looked at the man with cold tired eyes. With a wave of her hand, the man disintegrated. Instantly transformed into a pile of slightly magical dust.

"No. I'm not your Servant." Upon dispatching Atrum and finding a place to set her workshop in, she started to think. Pacing backwards and forth in the hotel she had hired out for herself. She had no need for a Master thanks to retaining her incarnated body, but she was... terribly frustrated, to say the least. For whatever reason, in this parallel world, Shinji was a complete and total worm. It was disheartening to see the man she had fallen in love with reduced to such a pitiful state, and she could only grit her teeth in anger imagining just who could be behind snatching her away from her world. There wasn't a doubt in her mind though. Manaka Sajyou. She has to have been the one behind her banishment. To this world where the man she loved was a pathetic waste of oxygen. His magic potential stripped from him. His noble personality gone. The calming nature inherent to him... gone. This was not the man she fell in love with, but... she wouldn't kill him just for being a far inferior version of the man she loved.

There were many ways that the grail war could be resolved. Medea could of course go around and kill the other Servants or something, but that wasn't something she had any interest in doing, so instead, she set out to visit the Greater Grail underneath Fuyuki's Temple. Even with her incarnated form, phasing through the rock and into the cave system was as simple for her as breathing air, and she took note of how different the cave was to what the girl in the timeline she originated from had transformed the place into.

It didn't take her long until she had found the Greater Grail, and she could feel the evil radiating from the center of the magical construct. As Medea approached the Greater Grail, the sound of clinking armor alerted her to the presence of somebody else beneath the temple. "Oho? What do you think that you're doing here, Caster?" Gilgamesh. The King of Heroes had somehow preempted her and intercepted her. She had hoped to disassemble the Greater Grail without getting into a fight, but it looks like that wasn't to be.

"I'm here to destroy the Holy Grail, King of Heroes." Caster drew forth her staff, and Gilgamesh took a step backwards in surprise at the mighty power being radiated from it. "You have no need for the Holy Grail, for your body is incarnated. You have no business stopping me from doing this." Caster looked at Gilgamesh wearily, and she could see the golden portals behind him opening up as Noble Phantasms were aimed at her.
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"Bah! Do you really presume to tell me my business, mongrel? I'll show you the folly of treating yourself as the equal of the King!" The Gate of Babylon opened fire, and Medea simply crossed her arms as the shield granted to her by the man she loved activated to defend her autonomously. A thin barrier of unbreakable golden metal surrounded her and every single attack from the King bounced harmlessly off of it.

"Are you finished having your temper tantrum?" Medea frowned as the shield around her formed back into cubes. "Because I must retaliate, if so." Gilgamesh's eyes widened as Medea raised her staff into the air, and hundreds of magic circles each containing hundreds of layers of magic circles filled the entire chasm.

"This power-?!" Gilgamesh tried to reach into his vault to retrieve the only weapon he had that would allow him to compete with the barrage of hundreds of thousands of beams of lights crashing upon him. Even his mighty golden armor provided little resistance against the sheer quantity of energy being thrown at him, and when the light from the storm of destruction ended, there was simply a scorched crater where Gilgamesh had been standing.

"Excellent. Now, I think I'll get back to what I was doing." Medea shrugged as she turned away from the defeated King of Heroes and pointed her staff at the Greater Grail, a single spark of energy from her staff was all it took. The spell she had used against the Greater Grail was ludicrously expensive, but it would contain the damage caused by destroying the grail, continuously restarting the initial explosion of the Greater Grail over and over again with an advanced form of time-looping magic that could be applied to a single action. Of course, it wasn't so advanced that it allowed for the infinite creation of magical energy, but that was the purpose here. By creating an incomplete time-loop where energy was lost every time, the Greater Grail's explosion would not wipe out the entire city, and it would simply cease to exist upon expending all of the energy held within.

Medea clapped her hands together in finality as she walked away from the Holy Grail's looping destruction, and began to think of ways she could potentially get back to her original timeline...

World Record (Any%) Attained (8 minutes 12 seconds)
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>>4899572
And yet again he jobs.
Cool record though.
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>>4899572
Holy shit.

This witch doesn't mess around.
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>>4899570
It's really nice to see everyone hating on canon Shinji. That piece of shit deserves worse.

And yeah, Medea doesn't mess around.

We'll have to try again to beat her record.
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>>4899591
What did you think was going to happen when the best schemer in the Fifth War Except Zouken was given Beast level firepower?
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>>4899513
Hnnng.
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>>4899600
Didn't Shinji do All Bosses instead of any%? I think we still have WR in that category
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>>4899602
Is this just an excuse to right low key warnings that Manaka can just blast our friends into shittier timelines?
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>>4899752
Nope
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/4721222/
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>>4899761
Shit, we got Dragon Core now, we can shave off our time.
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"OK Tiamat! We're all going out for a few hours! Can we trust you to look after the kids?" Shinji smiled at her, and Tiamat smiled back at the man as he started to leave the house. There were... a lot of people going with him, so it fell upon her as the best mother of all to make sure that the kids didn't get into any trouble!

"That's right! You can count on me, everyone!" Tiamat happily accepted the role of babysitter. It was only five kids, so how difficult could it be for her to manage them all? She was looking forward to being able to properly show off her mothering skills to everyone. Tiamat watched everyone leave with a smile on her face, before happily moving away to go check on the kids. The five of them had been left watching the TV, so she quickly returned to the lounge she knew the kids were in... only to find that all five of them had decided to vanish and disappear in the five minutes it had taken her to see Shinji and the others off... "Oh... oh dear." Tiamat already felt herself starting to worry. If the kids aren't in bed by 9pm, then Shinji wouldn't let her babysit anymore! She looked at the clock and saw that it was still 6pm. OK, it's fine, she had three hours, that was plenty time to find all the girls, cook them all dinner, and tuck them into bed!

Determined, Tiamat started to walk through the house, listening carefully for noises that could give the absent children's locations away. She wasn't sure why they had suddenly decided to be so disobedient, but she was going to give them a very stern talking to if she found out that they were doing this just to be a hassle. Having problem children was something Tiamat had experience with, so she'd try to use that experience in order to properly take care of this situation.

She kept wandering through the house, until she heard a noise, tins clattering. The kitchen! One of them is in the kitchen! She quickly rushed into the kitchen, and at first saw nothing out of order, before noticing that one of the cupboards was open. Tiamat sighed as she leaned downwards in order to look inside the cupboard, only for an albino snake to suddenly emerge from the cupboard with her mouth triumphantly jammed around a can of sake. "Oh no! Ourobora, sweetie, you... you can't eat that!" Tiamat tried to take the can of sake out of Ourobora's mouth, only to quickly realize that the snake had plunged her two long fangs through the metal of the tin already, and the can itself was empty. Tiamat's heart skipped a beat as she looked deeper into the cupboard, only to find a dozen cans with obvious bite marks in them. "Oh dear."

Ourobora tried to slither out of the cupboard after she managed to discard the last tin of sake, but instead of actually maneuvering at all, all she managed to do was roll upside down a few times. Tiamat sighed as she picked her up, and Ourobora went completely floppy. The snake dangling downwards from her hands, having immediately fallen asleep in her embrace.
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"Oh no. Oh no!" Tiamat was already having trouble dealing with this, and the night had only just begun. Ourobora should have a very high metabolism thanks to being a creature of magic, at least, so... the alcohol should wear off before Shinji got back? She was going to have to put her to bed first though. She wrapped the sleeping snake around her neck like she was a scarf, and then set off to the girl's bedroom... only for the noise of crashing glass to alert her to something going on on the first floor.

She had to change her destination and head towards this new commotion, eventually finding Betty and Abby racing through the halls. The two girls bumping into her. "Oh, it's... you, Miss Tiamat!" Betty gracefully curtsied to her, and Abby followed suit. "We're playing a game of tag right now! Would you like to join in?" The girl asks innocently, and Tiamat smiled.

"Of course, but... who's the chaser? Is it Alítheia?" She happily agreed to join in, even if she was meant to be stopping them from getting into trouble, how difficult could a game of tag be?

"Nope! It's Betty's new dog!" Abby answered cheerfully, and Tiamat frowned for a fraction of a second before a large monstrous dog beast emerged from the corner of a painting, manifesting from the edge in order to leap atop her. Tiamat was prepared for the attack though, and instead of allowing herself to get leaped on, she just... punched the dog away. Causing the beast to disappear back into a corner as it skittered away from her in fear. She didn't want to kill Betty's dog, so she had to show some restraint in punching it. She didn't know where the dog she hit went, but she assumed that it wouldn't be back for a while.

"I think that's enough tag for you two girls." Tiamat scolded the girls. "Now, follow me, I need to find Alítheia and Tetsuka still." Seeing as how three of the five kids had already managed to get themselves into some sort of trouble, Tiamat didn't exactly have the most hope in the remaining two children having avoided trouble. Olga Marie and the little Rin had been sent to be taught magecraft by this timeline's Rin for a few weeks, and Tiamat found herself missing the two girls. They really managed to rein in the other five while they were around.

"OK, Miss Tiamat..." Betty sounded a little unenthusiastic about her game being cut short, but Tiamat couldn't just allow Shinji's home to be destroyed in his absence by a silly game like that. She'd convince Shinji to take them to the park tomorrow so that they could play tag with their new dog. Though that dog gave Tiamat the creeps, which was why she punched it by instinct when it tried to touch her. She felt bad. She had attacked the beast because she thought it was attacking, but what if it was merely playing a game with the girls? She hoped she hadn't made the wrong call there... She just wanted to protect them...
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She noticed something going on outside that was very strange too. An entire forest was springing up from nothing, and a gigantic golden dragon was knocking down the rapidly growing trees, causing one hell of a mess. What was happening out there?!

She raced outside of the house, the other girls still following her, and she looked at the huge golden dragon as it came diving down out of the sky in order to smash into the rapidly growing forest. "Alítheia! Stop!" She commanded the girl, who stopped on a dime as she was about to crash into the forest. "Take your human form! Now!" The Mother of Dragonkind demanded the Dragon Queen to follow her words, and Alítheia did so without complaint. The golden dragon shrank down into a human girl and approached Tiamat and the rest of the girls with a guilty look.

"S-sorry, Mama Tiamat..." Alítheia sounded truly sorry for disappointing her, and her sad expression melted Tiamat's heart.

"Don't worry about it, Alítheia, I'm sure you've got a good reason for what you were... doing." Tiamat genuinely had no idea herself why a forest was growing, but the source of the forest became clear as a fox pup came bounding out of the forests, before it jumped into Alítheia's arms and the dragon girl snuggled against the small fox.

"That's right! Tetsuka and I were playing hide and seek! But then she said it's unfair that I can just destroy the forest that she was hiding in, so she made her own forest to hide in!" Alítheia explained to Tiamat, who found herself scratching her head.

"Why were you playing hide and seek anyway?" In fact, Tiamat wanted to know what the reason behind the burst of individuality of disobedience that each of the girls seem to have had was.

"Oh, that's because I told them to do it, I planted the ideas within their minds!" A voice called out from behind Tiamat, and she turned to face him. White hair and a single red eye. She clenched her fist as she looked at him. "Are you angry? Frustrated? Mad?" The man started cackling, and Tiamat just sighed.

"I suppose I'm vaguely irritated. Also, who are you supposed to be?" Tiamat had never seen or felt a presence like his before, so she was curious.

"Guh!" The man acted like he'd just been wounded deeply as Tiamat questioned his identity, and a fake tear begin to fall from one of his eyes. "I am the darkness that engulfs the night, I am the madness that consumed minds, I am the breaker of a thous- Hey! Where are you going!?" The man demanded an answer from Tiamat as she turned to leave him ranting to himself
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"Come on kids, let's go get some ice cream and leave the space weirdo alone!" Tiamat happily led the kids away from this guy. She knew he was from outside of the planet, and unlike Shinji, was very much the opposite of a benevolent or benign being, so she just chose to ignore him and hope that he'd go away. Eventually, he grumbled something about how she was being no fun and vanished without a trace. Maybe now she could actually get the kids to behave?
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No manaka story?
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>>4899833
Soon, I guess.
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>>4899835
Cool also we have the best kids
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>>4899825
Oh...Oh god, this is too cute. We need to be ready to discipline snake daughteru in the future.
>>4899827
I'm...glad we don't have house servants. Eldritch monsters that play tag with kids is a bit much to comprehend.
>>4899828
This is rather distressing. We need to teach our kids restraint. At least when Discord Moderators aren't involved.
>>4899831
Quick question. Is he going to be doing this regularly around our kids in the actual timeline. Or is he keeping his dickery to alternate timelines?
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>>4899845
>Quick question. Is he going to be doing this regularly around our kids in the actual timeline. Or is he keeping his dickery to alternate timelines?
Carnival stuff is generally super non-canon unless specifically said that it's canon.
Rules within Carnivals are subject to change, as are characterizations.
These aren't even alternate timelines in the usual sense of the term, because the events within are general impossibilities.
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>>4899831
Tiamat babysitting the mischievous children was nice. All of the daughters were cute. And who knew Tetsuka could do that?

>>4899845
Well, the Crawling Chaos deciding to spend his time playing harmless pranks is much better than some possible alternatives.

And where Nyarlathotep went, rest vanished; for the small hours were rent with the screams of nightmare.
https://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/n.aspx
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>>4899850
We need to remind Nyarly we are capable of, and willing, to both physically and metaphorically kick him in the general organ that can be considered his dick if he messes with our kids.
>>4899851
Just no helping it I suppose.
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Manaka had done it. She had finally managed to figure out just how to truly wield Truth, and she was finally ready to use her newfound powers in order to obliterate this false world and replace it with a true one of her own! She no longer needed Shinji! She'd go ahead with the plan before he even reached her! There was going to be no way to stop Manaka Sajyou from going through with her ultimate plan! She began to laugh, her laughter rising in intensity and volume as it went on. "Now, there are none to stand in my way, and-"

The world shifted around Manaka, who though previously sitting in the middle of the lavish throne room she had constructed for herself, found herself sitting on a perfectly mundane feeling bus, driving through the streets of Tokyo. "...what just happened?" She asked herself as she realized that her powers had been taken from her at the same time as her transportation. No... those powers of hers, they were still something she could access, but she just... needed to figure out a way to get the magical energy required for her to use them. Her body didn't seem to have Od, and this world around her was completely devoid of mana.

"Excuse me miss, are you lost? Where are your parents?" A kindly looking woman asked her, concerned for that fact that Manaka was sitting on the bus all alone, and Manaka just began to laugh.

"Parents? I don't think I have parents here, miss." Manaka replied to the woman kindly, hoping to get her to leave her alone, and instead, the woman just pulled out a phone and dialed a number.

"Yes, hello? Police? I think I may have found a runaway or a missing child, would you like me to take her to the station?" A brief pause. "OK, I understand, Tokyo Central Station? I'll take her there then." The concerned citizen smiled at Manaka, who frowned back at her.

"You don't know what you're getting yourself into, lady, I am Manaka Sajyou, the second wielder of Truth and the girl who will subsume control over this reali-"

"Oh, so you watch a lot of anime, huh? My little sister loves that sort of stuff!" The woman cut Manaka off as she tried to wield her unlimited arcane powers to destroy her utterly. "She's actually just about your age, you know? You should also understand that it's dangerous for kids with foreign parents to wander around Japan alone. Most people wouldn't try to be helpful, you know?" The woman smiled happily at Manaka, before taking her hand and getting off the bus with her. "Come on, we'll have the police find your parents for you."

"You don't understand! I'm the ultimate evil! I was moments away from destroying my entire world! I don't know how this happened, but I'm not just going to-" The older woman cut her off again.
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"Easy on the anime talk, OK, Manaka? Seeing as we're going to be spending some time together while I take you to the police station, I should tell you my name too. "I'm Chie, let's get along, Manaka!" The woman was clearly doing her best to make Manaka feel more comfortable, and Manaka just sighed. She was without power right now, so this woman was probably her best bet in uncovering the secrets of this world. She had already realized that this world was the origin point of Shinji. But... there didn't really seem to be anything special about it, even as she was led down the street by Chie, it seemed like a pretty one-to-one recreation of the world she was familiar with, though there was absolutely no mystery.

At the station, it didn't take long for the girl who had taken her to be informed that Manaka is simply a child that doesn't exist according to all physical records, and that she had practically popped up from nowhere without any warning at all. Manaka was not however expecting for the girl who found her to reveal herself as the daughter of the police chief. Nor was she expecting for the man to give the girl permission to actually adopt her.

Manaka sighed to herself. This was going to be a very very long next few weeks. Would Shinji ever come here? Or had she finally found the world of reality that she was looking for? Manaka didn't really know anymore...

To be continued...
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I might write a few more stories tomorrow, but I've really got to learn to schedule carnivals for the first Sunday of the Month in the future, because I just don't have the energy for this sort of stuff on weekdays.
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>>4899954
wagieeeeeeee
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>>4899952
Oh god, this is hilarious.
>"oh yeah, the world where i came from don't have any type of magic, get fucked lol"
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>>4899984
Can she make a Bloodfort?
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>>4899831
Poor Alan.
>>4899952
Time for Manaka to get her own mundane SOL anime where she rumble chuuni phrases all the time. Maybe even run into kids who do that after watching anime and think they are for real too.
I wonder how hard will she get hit by finding out wiki and art of herself.
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>>4900168
full mental breakdown
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>>4900168
>>4900199
What if she finds us?
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>>4900168
How much r18 art manaka has? I never really tried to find some.
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>>4900225
Probably more than you think, less than your expecting.
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>>4900199
>>4900222
>full mental breakdown
>she finds quest
Her sanity is gone and she now plays FGO and whale for Arthur at every chance she can.
>>4900225
I think even few pieces of r18 art would be enough to cause her some mental damage? She would pretty much only need to search her name on pixiv to run into them.
But at that point she probably already knows about Fate and it might not affect her after getting all other revelations before it.
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>>4900253
>Her sanity is gone and she now plays FGO and whale for Arthur at every chance she can.
Making me feel bad and want to rescue her in one sentence. She really would be Neckbeard in the real world.
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>>4900222
We show her Reddit to guarantee her loss of sanity.

Also, checked.
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>>4899952
>>4900253
>She's adopted
Holy shit what would the woman think when she sees Manaka as a carbon copy of an anime character?
>>4900261
If she can make a Bloodfort, what would happen if the lady that adopted her found out she was real? Besides dying and being added obviously.
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I'm curious, rhongo gave us the choice of having her as a double agent, if we accepted would we have lost her to manaka? Or the result would be the same with manaka trying to kill her the same way as it happened?
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>>4899831
That was super adorable.
Alan really needs to learn to take pleasure in less interventionist kinds of amusement.
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>>4900258
Now imagine somebody telling her
>Stop posting about Arthur, Manaka
As a joke. Would slam her just as hard as initial revelation.
>>4900261
Sadistic. I like it.
>>4900262
Manaka is not really that popular as a character. So unless she runs into hardcore fans and keep same look all the time it might never came up? Rest of her actions could be written off as psychological defense mechanism and upbringing she never wish to speak about to her new parents.
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>>4900271
>As a joke. Would slam her just as hard as initial revelation.
>Lol, this brat thinks she handle Apex dick
>Basement Dweller Man-aka, won't have kids.
>IMAGINE HIS SMELL
Suicide watch has been notified. Nobody cares.
>So unless she runs into hardcore fans and keep same look all the time it might never came up? Rest of her actions could be written off as psychological defense mechanism and upbringing she never wish to speak about to her new parents.
If it exists, she will find porn of it. She can never avoid it, her curiosity will be her downfall.
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>>4900283
Its all about if she can take looking at the abyss or not, considering how she is she will probably go insane eventually, even more because she now has no powers.
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>>4900294
>She goes to school dressed how she is normally
>Her school has a LOT of Fate fans
>He life is suffering seeing wannabe Shinji's that don't hold a candle to the one that trounced her
>She is dragged into their group and introduced to 4chan
>She finds, Us.
The fury, is overwhelming.
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>>4900302
I wonder how much furniture will she break every time she gets angry.
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>>4900311
Yes
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>>4900302
>gets introduced to 4chan
>"hey, ever heard of /qst/?"
>Manaka finds the Fate Quest
>she experiences a moment of existential dread, now knowing she is nothing but a pawn
>"But wait... I can... I can control the world! I will destroy Shinji's universe and shape it in my own image!"
>WhatIs: "Alright anons, what do you do?"
>MadManaka101: "dESTROY evErythin!!!1"
>all anons outvote Manaka every time, choosing wholesome or good actions
>cue Manaka doing the German Kid scream along with some keyboard smashing
>gets grounded for a month, no anime or internet allowed
>she gives up, just becomes an average pleb that regularly browses /qst/, forever denied by anons
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