Open your bible anon because we're continuing Jesus Quest.Jesus returned from his trials in the desert to find himself lost in the year 2000 of the 21st century. Unable to speak modern languages, Jesus is thrown in the asylum where befriends the doctors. The doctors teach Jesus how to use modern technology and how to speak many common modern languages.On January 1, 2001, a doctor forges Jesus a passport and drives him to the airport. Jesus buys a one-way ticket to (vote result) the Vatican. Pope John Paul II (vote result) announces Christ's return to the world. Jesus and his followers traveled to Italy, (vote result) Greece, and Constantinople, preaching to Catholics and Orthodox but neglecting Protestants.Protestant spies uncovered catholic sex abuse scandals that are big enough to implicate a cardinal. Crowlian spies infiltrated the Protestants and convinced them that Jesus is a fake catholic deception.The Protestants challenged the Catholics to a debate. Jesus and the Pope fly from Istanbul to All Saints' Church, Wittenburg, Germany. The Protestant factions stand on the left, the Catholics on the right, and Jesus in the middle in front of the altar.Ground Rules:Jesus does not kill.Jesus does not commit physical violence toward humans.(Jesus did curse a fig tree and eat animals and nobody considers that to be violence except breatharians.)Jesus does not command armies nor does he command others to kill or hurt for him. (Except in Revelations but that's inappropriate for part 2 of a Jesus Christ Chrismas-themed Quest).Jesus does insult his enemies the Pharisees by comparing them to snakes and dogs. Swearing at people is non-violent.Miracles:Jesus uses miracles to teach lessons and parables.Jesus uses miracles to feed the hungry, cure the sick, and raise the dead.Jesus sometimes uses miracles for fun like turning water into wine.Jesus does not use miracles to prove his divinity as the Son of God.Jesus does not use miracles to perform shows on stage.Jesus does not use miracles to get rich or make money.Jesus might have used miracles to pull pranks as a child.The Pope opens up the debate with (vote result) an apology:
part 1: >>4570856http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/4570856/Pope John Paul II speaks:"An excuse is worse and more terrible than a lie, for an excuse is a lie guarded. Sexual abuse by some clergy and religious has caused great suffering and spiritual harm to the victims. It is a profound contradiction of the teaching and witness of Jesus Christ. We wish to apologize unreservedly to the victims for the pain and disillusionment caused to them.""The church is seeking open and just procedures to respond to complaints in this area and is committed to compassionate and effective care for the victims, their families, the whole community, and the offenders themselves.”"Every word that you speak is as pretty as a flower but are you going to do anything about it?" said Archbishop of Canterbury, George Carey. "Step forth Pedro and tell us all what you told me."11-year-old Pedro Delrocce delivers a tear-streaked confession that implicates several Catholic clergies including Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, Archbishop of Washington, D.C.Choose one:>"I was made aware of allegations against McCarrick but did not believe them. I did not want to believe them.">"We must have due justice and proper canonical trials. You don't confess your sins publicly, it's private between the priest and the penitent. >4599786" The men mentioned may be guilty or may be innocent but they have already been convicted in the eyes of the mob.>Our spies have evidence you have covered up for Pedarast Peter Ball. While we have sinned by turning a blind eye to the wolves who have entered our flock - so too have you sinned. All sins must be unveiled today.
>>4605791who are we speaking as here?
>>4605791>>Our spies have evidence you have covered up for Pedarast Peter Ball. While we have sinned by turning a blind eye to the wolves who have entered our flock - so too have you sinned. All sins must be unveiled today.
>>4605798Good questionThe pope would speak option 1.Bishop Ritzy, the pope's aid and spymaster, would speak most of option 2 but the pope would say the last sentence: "The men mentioned may be guilty or may be innocent but they have already been convicted in the eyes of the mob."Bishop Ritzy would speak the entirety of option 3.
>>4605791>Our spies have evidence you have covered up for Pedarast Peter Ball. While we have sinned by turning a blind eye to the wolves who have entered our flock - so too have you sinned. All sins must be unveiled today.If possible add that they need to properly confess to the priest
>>4605791>>"We must have due justice and proper canonical trials. You don't confess your sins publicly, it's private between the priest and the penitent. >4599786" The men mentioned may be guilty or may be innocent but they have already been convicted in the eyes of the mob.
>>4605791>Our spies have evidence you have covered up for Pedarast Peter Ball. While we have sinned by turning a blind eye to the wolves who have entered our flock - so too have you sinned. All sins must be unveiled today.Does Jesus have divine knowledge? Can he see into peoples souls and shatter deception? Maybe now would be a good time for the big man to speak.
>>4606438Christ is fully God and fully man, so yes.
>>4605791>"I was made aware of allegations against McCarrick but did not believe them. I did not want to believe them."'Could anyone enlighten me regarding the details of option two? The protestants made this public to convince the world that Jesus is a fake because they assumed the church would attempt to deflect or bury this. So being fully honest and handing off the abusers to the secular authorities seems to be the best option since Jesus cleaning house without any excuses would foster faith in the church institution.
>>4605791>>Our spies have evidence you have covered up for Pedarast Peter Ball. While we have sinned by turning a blind eye to the wolves who have entered our flock - so too have you sinned. All sins must be unveiled today.I like the idea that Jesus straight up calls the entire clergy sinners, but may forgive them.
Our spies>>4605801>>4605811>>4606438canonical trials>>4605814I was made aware >>4606872Yeah you got the jist of it.Writing. Will post this evening or tomorrow.
>>4605763>Jesus does not killoh yeah? then why did he kill the White Witch in The Lion The Witch And The Wardrobe?
>>4607831And don't forget how he chased the hawkers out of the temple with a whip
>Jesus has to go out and debunk paradise lost, where he is said to fight in a warchariot against hell...
>>4607858He didn't kill any of them though, just beat them up.
>>4607831Also killed General Grevious, who was a cyborg, so technically even if he's just some ugly ass wannabe Lightner space spider
>>4607797The reporters outside are in a frenzy and none of them is more filled with schadenfreude than Peter Gillibrand of the BBC.While no reporters were allowed inside All Saint's church, their cameramen still broadcasted the catholic-protestant debate to the entire world and on big screens outside the cathedral.Such was his hatred for Christians that Peter had bribed his boss and backstabbed two colleagues with rumors to get this coveted on-the-ground reporting position. The harsh upbringing of his strict Calvinist mother made him turn his back on Christ. Now, the Christian scandals he so desperately sought for his entire career are finally out in the open. Yet his early elation turns sour as Gillibrand realizes the design of Jesus's plan.Members of the protestant faction are in shock but Archbishop George Carey stays calm. "We too admit to our negligence concerning the safety of our parishioners and for that, I apologize. Yet what now? Our scandals are out in the open and even more denominations will soon have their scandals revealed as well. Will this imposter you Catholics claim to be the messiah Lord Jesus Christ returned pray away our sins? Or maybe he will drag us all to hell?"Jesus steps forth from the altar and speaks: "Bring me all the accused and I will judge them in private. I will determine who is righteous and who has sinned. The falsely accused I will proclaim innocent and the sinners will be sentenced to a life of prayer and penance (house arrest). But those who lie to me or try to flee will be given to the police and the public courts and the public prisons.""The imposter reveals his Catholic trickery." The Crowlian infiltrator, Anglican Bishop Hallock, speaks: "They plot to accuse our righteous of sex crimes while giving cover to the Catholic sex pests of their own by lying about their innocence. How do we know you are not the Anti-Christ? Show us that you are truly the Son of God"
>>4609506Choice 1:For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist. 2 John 1:7>"The antichrist is a term for any person who denies Christ. While the false prophet, the dragon, and the beast of revelation will all come much, much later in the future, the antichrist is not the title of a single person but of all of them and their servants. Including you Crowlian viper. You who has infiltrated the Church of England and spewed lies about me. Clouding the heart with silver words. Whoever checks your background, citizen or cop, will find the evidence of your secret beliefs."Choice 2:Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.> "I am the son of God and God the Father is above me. I claim no throne. I brand with no mark. I behead no one. I am peaceful and nonviolent. We are all brothers and I am but the elder brother who shows you the way so that you may know God the Father as I know him.I will show you no signs for you already know the truth."I will not force you to participate in this Judging of Priests but let all who believe come to me that I may give him my blessing or forgiveness. And all who choose to stay away let them do so. I remain peaceful and non-violent."Choice 3: write-in
>>4609515[b]For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist. 2 John 1:7[/b]>"The antichrist is a term for any person who denies Christ. While the false prophet, the dragon, and the beast of revelation will all come much, much later in the future, the antichrist is not the title of a single person but of all of them and their servants. Including you Crowlian viper. You who has infiltrated the Church of England and spewed lies about me. Clouding the heart with silver words. Whoever checks your background, citizen or cop, will find the evidence of your secret beliefs."
>>4607858I'll have one of the later characters ask Jesus about whipping the hawkers out of the temple.>>4607831>>4608535>>4608693I know you're all joking but I want it to be peaceful because Jesus Quest started around Christmas and I wanted it to have the Christmas spirit. I naively thought it would finish by Christmas and it looks like it will take the better part of this year. I think it would be too easy if Jesus just took up the sword and conquered the world. Peaceful conflict resolution is definitely a challenge to write. I've even resorted to reading The Imitation of Christ for inspiration.Thank you for more Kepios dialogue. The samsonian monk would not exist as a character without crusaderbros and your suggestions. The christian warrior is a part of Christianity that modern-day churches tend to neglect and it is a concept we will be exploring more while still being committed to the ground rules.>>4609515Choice 2's second quote is Revelation 20:4.
choice 1>>4609528>>4610214choice 2>>4609733>>4610175>>4610285Writing. Will post tommorow evening.
>>4610823After more bickering about church politics and various other accusations - the bigs bell tolls and the sun sets and the debate ends. The faithful who know that Jesus is here continue to believe. The doubters who deny Jesus continue to deny. Like most modern debates, both sides leave believing they have won. Yet like the stars shine small lights through the ignorant darkness of the night sky - does Jesus's proclamation for a voluntary judging-of-the-clergy ripple far and wide.Priests and pastors, and ministers far and wide travel to Germany so Jesus may judge them. Some are sinners who wish to be released - and after forgiveness are still sentenced to a life of prayer and penance (house arrest) or banishment from the clergy for lesser crimes like mismanagement of church funds(theft).Others were falsely accused by flawed courts and sinister people. These men, Jesus blesses and they return to their communities exalted and yet still suspected because that is how human are.On February 24, 2001, Pope John Paul II flies back to the Vatican because of the many changes he must implement and the mountaintop of paperwork awaiting him.On February 25, 2001, Jesus along with his retinue including Mahill, Bishop Ritzy, and Brother Kepios, board a second plane back to Constantinople to judge the orthodox priests and check on the conversion campaign and the immigration campaign. They have a party to celebrate work well done on the plane and drink wine and fall asleep.Mahill wakes with a startle and opens the blinds over his window and looks down on the scenery below."Hold on a second. Look out the window. It's the bogazi. The bosporus. The straight. The river. We just flew over the river! We passed it!That's behind us. What's on the other side?"Mahill opens tears open the curtain on the other side and wakes Bishop Ritzy who curses and knocks wine over his vestments."What the devil's gotten into you?""I know that cityscape - that skyline. It's Ankara. Ankara to our left and now we're passing it. What's going on? Wake up. Jesus wake up!"Jesus shakes his long hair awake and stares down the barrel of a handgun. "This is a highjacking," says the terrorist as he removes his mask to reveal the face of Mohammed Mujibor.
>>4612128"Who?" asks Bishop Ritzy."Mujibor. The guy who trashed our charity supplies back in Istanbul a few weeks ago," says Mahill.""Oh, I must have missed that.""Lay your hands off The Lord!!!" shots Kepios as he charges forth but two other hijackers point their guns at him and he stops."Stand down Kepios," says Jesus. The Al-Qaeda terrorists bound the Christians with rolls of ducktape."We've done it. We've taken over their plane. Now let's kill them.""Wait," says Mujibor. "We need to send a message. Kill Jesus publicly on live TV. Follow our orders and bring him to Afganistan.""But we have him now. Flying over Iran to get to Afganistan is risky because those Shi'as could just shoot us all down.""Our Emir has commanded and we obey."The plane lands bumpily on a makeshift airstrip at a ramshackle military base in the middle of a nowhere desert. Jesus, Mahil, Ritzy, Kepios, and the rest are brought, backs over their heads into trucks that venture deep into the desert caves. After a long journey, the Al-Qaeda terrorists remove their hoods and Jesus recoils in shock at the Mufti who sits before him.
>>4612131Before them sits the fattest Mufti any man has ever seen. Shifa-al-Nima stuffs his face with falafels as he laughs at the captures Christians. Crumbs fall from his mouth onto the floor and cave roaches crawl out from under his fat folds to eat them."Croochifye Dem""What did he say?""He says that he's going to crucify us.""Oh joy."The Al-Qaeda neckbeards lead Jesus and co. outside the cave and towards a bunch of crosses erected on the hillside of a dune.Shouts echo across the courtyard followed by the sound of gunfire. The neckbeards, already nervous about their orders to crucify Jesus, abandon their posts and run away."Now is the time Kepios. Free us from our restraints," says Jesus."Kepios flexes his muscles and bulges through the duct tape. With Youtch and Oww and cries of pain does Kepios tear the ducktape bounding the Christians."I am glad we are free," says Bishop Ritzy, "but didn't you, Lord, say there would be no violence?""I said that I would NOT personally lead an army but that is very different from taking advantage of two other armies fighting each other and giving us the chance to escape the guys who just wanted to kill us. Now follow me.">Escape down the mountain paths into the valley below. You may find a village at the foot of the mountain or you may find nothing.>Hide in the deep darkness of the winding caves. This might be the safest option. Or some people might be shot in the darkness.>Stay and attempt to communicate with the attacking army that made the Al-Qaeda neckbeards run away. Maybe they will be good. Maybe they won't. Either way beats trying to survive in the desert with no supplies.
>>4612132>Stay and attempt to communicate with the attacking army that made the Al-Qaeda neckbeards run away. Maybe they will be good. Maybe they won't. Either way beats trying to survive in the desert with no supplies.imb4 it's the muricans
>>4612132>Stay and attempt to communicate with the attacking army that made the Al-Qaeda neckbeards run away. Maybe they will be good. Maybe they won't. Either way beats trying to survive in the desert with no supplies.I don't really get what's happening
>>4612132>>Escape down the mountain paths into the valley below. You may find a village at the foot of the mountain or you may find nothing.
>>4612418Jesus and Co. boarded a plane.The plane was hijacked by terrorists who flew to Afganistan.The terrorists wanted to crucify Jesus but they were attacked by an unknown army and ran away.
>>4612167>>4612418communicate>>4612459escapeWriting. Will post tommorow evening.
>>4613151Jesus instructs Bishop Rizty, Brother Kepios, and the others to remove their priestly robes and monk vestments. They do so and find that everyone is wearing tattered desert robes under their christian garments. Their old clothes fly off into the wind. Then, Jesus removes his white garment and it turns into white flag that he waves.Run-down jeeps drive up and the Christians are surrounded by the attacking army. One of the soldiers introduces himself as Abu Mamoud, a loyalist Afghan of the Northern Alliance / United Front.Jesus speaks the butchered Arabic, he learned from Dr. Leibowitz, and introduces himself as Jonathan."Are they another muslim terrorist group?" whispers Bishop Ritzy."No, they are a coalition of Afghans supported by other countries like Iran and Russia. They fight against the Taliban and Al-Qaeda," whispers Mahill."So they're democratic?""They are dangerous but they can help us.""... and why are you here in Afganistan?" says Mamound as he brushes the sand off his rifle?"Before you stands Jes-""Quiet Kepios," whispers Mahil pulling him by the ear, "we must not let them know who we are yet because they would kill us.">We are charity volunteers who have come here to help build clean water filtration plants. The taliban destroyed the wells we built to help the Afgani people and wanted to execute us to make an example because they hate technology.>We are arms dealers. The taliban wanted to execute us because we only sell weapons to your side and refuse to sell any to them.>We are geologists who specialize in finding oil. The taliban have kidnapped us because they want to get rich.
>>4614509>We are charity volunteers who have come here to help build clean water filtration plants. The taliban destroyed the wells we built to help the Afgani people and wanted to execute us to make an example because they hate technology
>>4614509Rebuke Mahil and tell Keipos to finish what he was saying.Lying is a sin, after all.
>>4614509Rebuke Mahil and tell Keipos to finish what he was saying.Lying is a sin against the Eighth Commandment, after all.
>>4614509>We are charity volunteers who have come here to help build clean water filtration plants. The taliban destroyed the wells we built to help the Afgani people and wanted to execute us to make an example because they hate technology.
>>4614766don't remember the exact doctrine or anything but there is a rule specifically for this, it is OK to lie about your faith if exposing the truth would mean your death. Christianity was an underground organization for a long time, after all.
>>4614906>it is OK to lie about your faith if exposing the truth would mean your deathTell that to all of the countless martyrs who deliberetly chose death instead of apostasy.
>>4614912bunch of stupid fucks then, amiright?
>>4614970No, you are. Apostasy is a sin under all circumstances.
charity>>4614543>>4614903truth>>4614762You raise a good point about apostasy. I'll address that.Writing. Saturday is busy for me so I'll aim to post Sunday.
>>4616747"I can't take this anymore! We should not be hiding.""Tell that to the 8000 faithful Christian Afghanis who worship in secret every day. Would you have us all die? Men, women, and children. And become martyrs with you?""We should announce that the Lord Jesus Christ is here and be truthful." Kepios runs out of the basement church before the others can stop him.Earlier: The Northern Alliance brought Jesus and co. to a dried-up little village near the mountain ridges of Afganistan. Jesus said there was water in the ground and he told the men of the village where to dig. And when the men dug where he instructed, lo and behold there was water. A well was built and the village rejoiced.Arash had long-lived without hope - joining to fight against the Taliban was the only way of supporting his wife and ailing mother. He thought 'Jonathan' looked like Jesus when his squad came upon them in the desert. Now after the miracle of discovering water did he now confirm and realize the return of the lord. Arash invited Jesus into his house and revealed to him the congregation of 12 who worshipped in secret in the basement under the pretense of a backgammon club. But Kepios still smoldered under the weight of this secrecy and had run off to reveal the truth."His little stunt has cost us! Now our secret church has been discovered and we will all die!" says Arash."Run if you want boy. I will not leave my home village. I am prepared to die," says Arash's mother, Salima. A few of the faithful side with Salima and want to stay while others side with her son and want to leave.Choose one:>Run after Kepios and stop him.> Let Kepios reveal the truth: Jesus surrenders to the Afghan authorities to buy time for everyone else to escape. The faithful who are more likely to resist leaving their homes will now be willing to flee.>Let Kepios reveal the truth: Using peaceful negotiations will make the Northern Afghan Muslims unlikely to kill the secret Christians right away. They will spend weeks throwing stones at Christian houses and shops and bullying their children and harassing them first. During that time, the 12 faithful can pack their belongings and leave with Jesus and co. on an exodus into the desert. Salima and her faction will resist this and will prefer to die in their home village.>write in