Year is 1946, the former colonial possession of Sahrani is granted independence. In the initial days of sorting out the problems of the new state, the socialists and the liberal party fail to reach consensus. The island is split approximately 50/50 in the North controlled "Sahrani People's Republic" and the South "Democtratic Republic of Sahrani"What side should we be taking as minister of defence?>Socialist SPR, the USSR surely has a massive stockpile of weapons they'd be willing to share with their comrades.>Democratic DRS, even if the USA will not provide us with enough gear, Great Britain and later France would be good partners.
>>4317311>Democratic DRS, even if the USA will not provide us with enough gear, Great Britain and later France would be good partners.
>>4317311No national socialism?
>>4317311>Socialist SPR, the USSR surely has a massive stockpile of weapons they'd be willing to share with their comrades.
>>4317311>>Socialist SPR, the USSR surely has a massive stockpile of weapons they'd be willing to share with their comrades.
>>4317311>>Democratic DRS, even if the USA will not provide us with enough gear, Great Britain and later France would be good partners.
>>4317386>>4317375>>4317339>>4317316The south it is!Currently there are not enough funds to buy whatever, what we acquire will be on loan.While the USA can provide us with a small arms cache, we can ask for one from the UK instead, it will come cheaper for the price of not packing as much punch as the american ones.>Acquire American cache.>Acquire British cache.
>>4317395>>Acquire American cache.
>Acquire British cacheWe're a small poor African nation, we shouldn't do dumb moves in the beginning. Getting a loan from America is asking for trouble if we're found to have some exuberant resources of some sort. British isn't as strong as they were in this timeline despite having a good navy still just in case they turn on us.
>>4317395>Acquire British cache. Also where is our island located? Near Africa or what?
>>4317395>Acquire British cache.
Mechanics post:1.Each hex is 20km equivalent, no I do not work with miles.2.The more stuff you buy from one side, the cheaper it gets from them.>>4317406Yes, around Cape Verde. Though I've should have placed the desert part facing Sahara, just realized that.
>>4317402>>4317406>>4317411Roll two dies of 6 to see if they pack us extra Brens and Stens.
Rolled 3, 5 = 8 (2d6)>>4317418
Rolled 2, 3 = 5 (2d6)>>4317413>>4317418This is quite good, the French can help us by air strikes
Mechanics post 2:1.The squads that make up the infantry units, will be a size of 10. Customizing the default set of 9 riflemen and 1 machine gunner will become possible once the needed weaponry is available. The smallest unit will by Company, 50 men in 5 squads. 2.The PRS will have a slight edge in numbers initially as to refer the historical generosity of the USSR in the early postwar years.
>>4317429>>4317428Result is:150 Lee Enfield rifles (.303)50 Sten sub machine guns (9x19)40 Bren machine guns (.303)This currently allows for the creation of 4 companies, each squad armed with:1x Sten - NCO2x Bren - Gunners7x Enfield - RiflemenOne minute, autism is loading
Current condition of the armed forces is as follows in the report.For the initial acquiring of heavy weapons, we can as for one thing only>Heavy machine guns>Infantry mortats>Portable anti tank weapons
>>4317449>Portable anti tank weaponsT-34s gonna be inbound
>>4317449>Portable anti tank weapons
>>431746720 PIAT launchers were delivered, how do we incorporate them?>Distribute them equally throughout the companies, each squad gets one.>Form a support company to carry all the PIAT launchers, there is just about enough small arms for a slightly under gunned 5th Company.
>>4317489>Distribute them equally throughout the companies, each squad gets one.
>>4317489>Distribute them equally throughout the companies, each squad gets one.We aren’t getting overrun by soviet tanks
>>4317489>Form a support company to carry all the PIAT launchers, there is just about enough small arms for a slightly under gunned 5th Company.Maybe some extreme autists can verse us on the technical details here but intuitively it seems like if tanks could be easily taken out by one portable rocket launcher, no one would use them. I think these will only do us much good en masse, and it also stands to reason that the enemies would send their tanks in units which we surely don't have a chance against with one launcher.If units without PIAT launchers face a single tank they should handle it Winter War style with molotov cocktails and dirty tricks, and if they face a unit of tanks they should get the fuck out of there and get support.
>>4317447>>4317449So we have 30 extra stens and 10 extra SMLEs, right? What are our options with them? It seems like they could go with the optional 5th company, which only needs moderate firepower to defend their launchers.
>>4317500With a launcher in a single squad you can disable a tank by aiming for the treads. Back then they didn't have as many safeguards in place against it. Basically means they aren't completely fucked if they run into tanks. While you may not be able to destroy them you can at least cripple them and escape.
>>4317506I realized I didn't thin hard enough about this, I guess we're talking one per squad and not one per company. 5 per company sounds like it could make some difference, but I still think it would be better to have one unit to use at choke points.
>>4317511Honestly its mostly for insurance purposes if our infantry get caught with their pants down by tanks(aka blitzkrieg tactics). They won't be completely fucked. Otherwise I would agree. proper specialized troops would be nice if expecting mass tanks but there is the problem. You gotta know their coming to take advantage of it properly.
Alright, five per company it is.Now roll a dice of 6 (one roll per Anon) to determine the North's composition. I need three rolls, last one determines the quality of the intelligence report we receive on their armed forces.
Rolled 5 (1d6)>>4317532
Rolled 4 (1d6)>>4317532
Rolled 4, 3 = 7 (2d6)>>4317532
>>4317500>Maybe some extreme autists can verse us on the technical details hereExtreme autism appearing as summoned.Theoretically a T-34/85 tank can effectively be used as fire support from 5 kilometers or more by indirect fire as most medium tanks. Directly it can score good hits on exposed soft targets from up to 2km. The effective range of the PIAT ... is 300 meters maximum and is unable to take a T-34 out with a frontal hit most of the time.Now I wouldnt worry about it, T-34's should not appear in a few years on the island. By that time some other options to counter will become available.
>>4317556thanks fren, can we get some political autism too? I want a better feeling for what the political geography of this place is
>>4317539>>4317550>>4317551Taking the last roll's first digit as anon rolled two by accident, that makes for a rather accurate report.PRS forces consist of one Battalion of 200 men, having no heavy weapons other than one machine gunner per squad. Rest is armed with bolt action rifles. They also have one elite company which is rumored to be very well equipped but no other intel is available on it at this stage.PRS also acquired three formely German torpedo boats from Yugoslavia. These might be problematic as they can sink merchant ships and ferry commandos in our territory.>>4317562Sure there will be once time starts passing.But first...Before we continue, issue suggestions on where the units (4 companies as of now) should be positioned in. Reminder we are on the south side.
>>4317576we definitely want a strong front line but at least one unit in the rear
>>4317584>>4317593Here we go, let me know if you like these NATO standard counters and ask if you have any questions on what is what on them.Now, as before, one roll of 6 per anon. Need three.
Rolled 2 (1d6)>>4317620
Rolled 5 (1d6)>>4317620
How poor is our nation? I'm actually concerned our troops won't be able to use the PIATs if they are malnourished.
>>4317623As our newly formed republic barely took shape, political upheaval arrived fast. As we are a presidential one, the president is from the liberal party, the prime minister from the conservative party as determined from the flash elections in 1946.This leads to major disagreements on policy and spending as every legislation is bogged down over bickerings over the smallest of things.From roll of 2, minus funds for procurement of hardware for 1947>>4317627In the north, even though they railroaded themselves into a one party system from the get go ... their party seems incredibly divided at this point in time. One guy is quoting Tito, some other guy is a Stalinist, some other wants classical Marxist-Leninism... looks like they are not going to get much done either.From roll of 2, opponent suffers from same debuff>>4317632Apparently due to both sides being preoccupied with their internal scuffles, no one provokes the other with anything and no tention is generated...Current tension: 20% (it reaches 100%, we at full on war)From roll of 5>>4317645Its ok, the green areas are farmlands mostly and the climate is temperateProcurement post soon™
>>4317652Gotta prepare as much as possible for that war. Hopefully we can try getting the French on our side since they are the closest.
Military spending of the 1947 budget:As the few percent of the GDP are diverted towards defence, it is clear it ain't much. The main GDP is based on agriculture and fishing, the president has some ideas about developing other sectors but that will not come soon. At least more funds are available compared to last year.First, small arms.>We need numbers first, we will think about quality later. Buy rifles to arm up a battalion, we will think about giving them machine guns later. >The STEN guns are very cheap to procure, we can arm a whole company that can act as out designated urban fighter unit as these things become about useless in combat beyond 100 meters.>Keep the current structure of the squad, buy hardware for two more companies. This can let us either form two more companies, or combine them with two existing ones to form a battalion.All options leave enough funds for the heavy weapon procurement coming next, but option #2 is the cheapest one, #3 althrough best, is the most expensive one as Brens and PIATs aint cheap son.
>>4317665If war comes before the 1956 botched dumpster fire of an operation the Suez campaign was ... it is very likely.American task force arriving soon is also likely, but for both things you better pray to RNJesus for that when time comes.
>>4317667>>Keep the current structure of the squad, buy hardware for two more companies. This can let us either form two more companies, or combine them with two existing ones to form a battalion.Let's get as much hardware in as possible while we aren't at war with a naval power.
>>4317667>The STEN guns are very cheap to procure, we can arm a whole company that can act as out designated urban fighter unit as these things become about useless in combat beyond 100 meters.Arm up the ones at Pariso. Don’t wanna get on bad side of the president by sucking up all the money. Also can we get our troops to help out with local infrastructure and stuff? Gotta give the population a good image of us and speed up industrialization
>>4317673Considering our Pariso troops are our only line of defense against a naval invasion, I think they need to be more versatile as they will be dealing with a potential variety of terrain. Also, we are only spending what we have been given, it's not like a more expensive option is eating outside of our budget. Keep in mind that industrialization is likely not going to happen here. We are an extremely minor country on the brink of civil war. A true industrial base will require time and security we don't have. Such an economy requires a value added chain we probably don't have. Investing in any factory, not just a weapons factory, requires a number of components that we would have to import. Imports aren't a great idea rn because it's 1946 and we can't rely on the American navy to insure commercial vessels will make it to our ports without the SPR using those torpedo boats to sink them. We instead should be preparing for war, that means getting as much hardware in country as possible before our shipping comes under target by the SPR. Remember that the Royal Navy rapidly shrunk after the war, selling all pre war ships between '45 and '48. We can't rely on them for naval security. However, we should prioritize this post war market to secure a greater navy than the SPR, whose Soviet benefactor likely cannot provide such a hardware surplus.
>>4317667>Keep the current structure of the squad, buy hardware for two more companies. This can let us either form two more companies, or combine them with two existing ones to form a battalion.Don't suppose we can buy a license to domestically produce weapons?
>>4317690I can agree somewhat with the versatility one but Pariso seems to be quite urbanized so I believe the STENS would be best there. Also the reason why I want to conserve money here is to stock pile cash for a rainy day or possibly save enough money for heavier equipment in a later year.
>>4317706Heavier equipment might not be safe to import later on, which is why it's best to get it now. If we're going to station a Pariso dedicated unit, it should be when we have more manpower, not when it is so scarce.
>>4317728Agreeable >>4317667Changing vote to: >Keep the current structure of the squad, buy hardware for two more companies. This can let us either form two more companies, or combine them with two existing ones to form a battalion.
>>4317730>>4317697>>4317671>Buy hardware for two more companiesOk, you managed to reach a consensus before me going to bed. Now you got 12 hours or so to figure out what kind of heavy weaponry you want to procure.>Heavy machine guns. A few guns will do for a nice support company to improve our defenses in the cheapest possible way.>Light mortars. Also organised into a support company, packs more punch, for extra cash.>Mixed support unit of both HMG's and mortars, if it is worth spending on, its worth overspending on it maybe?>Anti tank guns. While we can not afford the QF 17-pdr guns, the QF 6-pdr are fitting just enough in our budget to get a few of them.Howitzers, armored cars and naval vessels are unavailable due to low funds.
>>4317667Vote option #2, make a fuck ton of plumber's abortions and put them in the hands of conscripts, they don't even need to be good at aiming.
>>4317743Vote light mortars
>>4317743>Anti tank guns. While we can not afford the QF 17-pdr guns, the QF 6-pdr are fitting just enough in our budget to get a few of them.The 6 pdr could fire high explosive, will this be available to us or can it only be used for tanks?
>>4317751If we can, let's do this. Whore for boats next year.
>>4317743>Light mortars. Also organised into a support company, packs more punch, for extra cash.
>>4317751>>4317760>>4317769Anti Tank guns it is.Budget currently allows for 6 guns for the initial formation of the AT company, later it can be upgunned. Now, decide on the organisation of newly acquired small arms.>Form two additional companies to bring their amount to 6 infantry ones. More units will allow for placing garrisons in more places and having a wider line.>Consolidate 3rd and 4th company to form a battalion. This will provide an overally stronger unit, for the cost of a little flexibility, plus, you can attach the Anti Tank company to it if you like to do so.
>>4318244>Form two additional companies to bring their amount to 6 infantry ones. More units will allow for placing garrisons in more places and having a wider line.
>>4318244>Consolidate 3rd and 4th company to form a battalion. This will provide an overall stronger unit, for the cost of a little flexibility, plus, you can attach the Anti Tank company to it if you like to do so.
>>4318245We need to build up from the jump man.
>>4318244>Consolidate 3rd and 4th company to form a battalion. This will provide an overally stronger unit, for the cost of a little flexibility, plus, you can attach the Anti Tank company to it if you like to do so.
>>4318413>>4318357>>4318254This is the current state of the organisation of the armed forces as of now. Worthy to mention that with the 6-pdr guns, HE is indeed usable and available, and for being a good customer, the UK has thrown in some APDS (Armor Piercing Discarding Sabot) rounds that can in theory deal with soviet medium tanks frontally from close range.Now three anons roll a single dice of 6 for the PRS acquisition phase before I post the map. Together with the roll you can specify if you want the new battalion to be positioned somewhere else than Ortego where it was formed, and do you want the AT company attached to it.
>>4318432Bah, there are no weapons in storage, as the ones we had were used to arm the AT company. Disregard that.
Rolled 4 (1d6)>>4318432
Rolled 2 (1d6)>>4318432I think we do want the at company attached to the battalion.
Rolled 2 (1d6)>>4318432
Rolled 4 (1d6)>>4318432>Attach AT company>Station in Ortego
>>4317326> Year is 1946> national socialismHitler was just defeated, and Stalin's lies aren't out yet. The right wing is not so popular in this setting.
>>4318443>>4318451>>4318459Intelligence report from the last roll of 2 (Weak) shows they have acquired some sort of light mortars that they have assembled into a company attached to their battalion stationed at the border town on Corazol.Now roll as before three dices of 6 for the political events of 1947.
>>4318496Did not press the save button on the image, gotta step my game up lol.
Rolled 3 (1d6)>>4318501Just remembered France is not dealing with the Algerian war of Independece yet. The 1950s were bad years to be French.
Rolled 5 (1d6)>>4318496
>>4318432Also, how close is “close range” for APDS to be effective vs soviet mediums?
Rolled 1 (1d6)>>4318496
>>4318505The political differences between the president and the opposition continue to hinder legislation and bog down the projects for resource prospecting in the mountains north of Paraiso, and the construction of an airport in the capital. At least both parties agree on international policy and managed to not fuck up our admission into the U.N.Hopefully next year they go through with the economy projects.(Roll of 3 grants no buffs or debuffs for the 1948 budget)>>4318514On the other side of the border, party unit was mostly restored. As the Tito-Stalin split was the dominant topic in the eastern bloc in 1948, the PRS decided to dispose of the Titoists by lining them up against a wall. Now they need to figure out if they need to do the same to the Marxist-Leninists in order to lick Stalin's boots even harder.(From roll of 5, PRS political situation improved in the long run, for the cost of a year or two of stronger dissent due to the harsh actions)>>4318526Under the pretext of "capturing dissidents fleeing from prosecution", the PRS violated our territorial waters and sometimes land territory around the rocky hills peninsula north-west of Ortego. Encounters with our border police and their sailors did not result in violence, but that could just encourage them to act more boldly in the future.Tension: +15% (Current is 35%)(From roll of 1 on international relations)
>>4318567We need to get our internal affairs in order. Also QM, have you thought about using d20s? I feel like those would be better.
>>4318505They need to sort their shit out in Indochina as of now.>>4318517Tricky question. The blank value of the T-34/85 armor should be able to resist it up to 300 meters. The problem comes when you take account that its armor is Rolled Homogeneous one on the hull, indicating better overall quality one, and cast one on the turret for ease of production. Thus a lucky shot can take it out from 1000 meters if it hits dead center a turret cheek or the ring. Also the armor quality, in terms of the metal itself was generally lower due to the massive production numbers, leading to some in theory able to be penetrated in the hull easily due to armor shattering.These things considered, I am willing to place the effective range at 700 meters against T-34's.>>4318573No, because I pre-assign the outcomes for all 6 possibilities in a roll. Rolls of 20 are indeed the classically used ones, but I can not think up of 20 options for each event.I will consider using a larger roll for the combat once war breaks out as there are many more possible outcomes that I do not need to pre-determine.Now you got some time for a write-in if you want something specific to be done, before the procurement list for 1948
>>4318591Perhaps we could hold some military exercises to improve the training of our soldiers?
>>4318591All right thanks for clearing it up QM. It also seems that there is no good year to be French >>4318597This
>>4318591Can we get started on some kind of special forces?I'm thinking along the lines of the Rhodesian SAS/paratroopers.
Procurement list for 1948: Introducing an index system so I won’t have to make three separate posts for small arms/heavy weapons/vehicles. You can select as many options as you like as long the sum does not exceed the budget.Current defense budget index value: 12$Ammunition:>Expand our stockpile of small arms rounds (.303 and 9mm): Costs 1$>Expand our stockpile of 6pdr ammunition and PIAT AT grenades: Costs: 1$Small arms:>Acquire more British small arms for arming a support company: 1$>Acquire more British small arms for one company: 2$>Acquire more British small arms for one battalion: 8$Heavy weapons:>Buy M2 Browning .50 cal machineguns from USA to form a support company: 4$>Buy three more 6-pdr AT guns to upgun our company: 2$>Buy British 3-inch mortars to form a support company: 3$>Buy British 20mm Oerlikon AA guns to form an anti-aircraft support company: 6$>Buy British 40mm Bofors AA guns to form an anti-aircraft support company: 8$>Buy British QF 25-pdr howitzers to form an artillery company: 10$Vehicles:>Buy three British Daimler armored cars armed with a 37mm gun and a 7.92mm machine gun: 12$>Buy two American M8 Greyhound armored cars, armed with 37mm gun, 50. Cal M2 and a 30. Cal MG: 12$>Buy two British “Vosper” motor torpedo boats, armed with one 20mm Oerlikon AA gun and 2 torpedoes: 8$>Buy two American “Elco” motor torpedo boats, armed with two .50 caliber M2 machine guns and 2 torpedoes: 10$>Buy one British “Fairmile” motor gunboat, armed with two Mollins guns (essentially autoloaded 6-pdrs) and 2x20mm Oerlikons: 7$
>>4318597Yes, just make sure you buy ammo, training without firing the guns does not constitute a military exercise.>>4318657As of now, no. In a few years, given a decent diplomatic developments, we can invite british/american/french advisors.
Ammunition:>Expand our stockpile of small arms rounds (.303 and 9mm): Costs 1$>Expand our stockpile of 6pdr ammunition and PIAT AT grenades: Costs: 1$Small arms:>Acquire more British small arms for arming a support company: 1$>Acquire 3 British small arms for 3 company (6$)Heavy weapons:>Buy British 3-inch mortars to form a support company: 3$
>>4318668This but instead of 3 British caches we get 2. The other 2 dollars will be used for:>Buy three more 6-pdr AT guns to upgun our company: 2$
>>4318660>Buy M2 Browning .50 cal machineguns from USA to form a support company: 4$>Buy two British “Vosper” motor torpedo boats, armed with one 20mm Oerlikon AA gun and 2 torpedoes: 8$Those bastard commies already have boats and we don't. We need something to threaten them with if them come into our waters.
>>4318660Ammunition:>Expand our stockpile of small arms rounds (.303 and 9mm): Costs 1$>Expand our stockpile of 6pdr ammunition and PIAT AT grenades: Costs: 1$Small arms:>Acquire more British small arms for arming a support company: 1$>Acquire more British small arms for one company: 2$Vehicles:>Buy one British “Fairmile” motor gunboat, armed with two Mollins guns (essentially autoloaded 6-pdrs) and 2x20mm Oerlikons: 7$We need to start building up our navy. It’ll be super useful to secure our resupply, deny theirs, and prevent sneaky amphibious operations.
>>4318671Wouldn’t the gunboat be better for naval warfare than torpedo boats, since the small size makes it easy to dodge the torpedoes?
>>4318674Changing vote to this. Our ground situation seems to be better than the commies and we are gonna need to counter those German torpedo boats.
>>4318675Probably, but I think the fact we get 2 of them is important, and the 20mm Oerlikons are nothing to laugh at.
>>4318675>>4318674Not a general consensus but we gonna go with it.Pre-applied effects of training exercise as ammunition was bought. Up-gunned the AT company with additional STEN guns and reformed 3rd Infantry Company which will deploy in the Ortego border area or in Dolores (specify).Roll three dices of 6 for the PRS acquisition.
Rolled 6 (1d6)>>4318784
Rolled 1 (1d6)>>4318784
Rolled 4 (1d6)>>4318784
>>4318784Put the 3rd in Dolores, if we put too many on the border the reds might see it as a sign of aggression.
>>4318831+1, we can reposition as tensions raise
>>4318788>>4318821>>4318828>>4318831>>4318837Intelligence report rolled 4 (Fair).The PRS has acquired 3 BA-64 armored cars from the Soviet Union. They are armed to withstand only rifle caliber fire and have only a light machine gun as weaponry, but are grouped with some jeeps made in USSR, blatant ripoffs of the Willis. This light recon they have assembled is an agile force that can appear in placed we dont want it to be, as of now, it is stationed in the border area.The PRS has also assembled another company, this time not well armed shock unit but exactly the opposite. Appears to be just a garrison unit in Everon.Details on their elite company are still not known.Roll three dices of 6 for the political events of 1948
Rolled 6 (1d6)>>4318852
Rolled 2 (1d6)>>4318852
>>4318857>>4318867The president, despite the constant obstruction managed to secure a contract with a French mining firm. The resource prospectors located aluminum deposits in the mountains northwest of Paraiso. A second contract regarding mining rights was signed and the economy received a massive boost. To top it off, a small airfield was constructed to host flights from Europe and West Africa, with the securing of jobs and promises of larger income for everyone, the ruling party has almost guaranteed their victory in the 1950 elections. This will have an effect on our defense budget, for this year it will be increased and a steady growth is expected to come.In the PRS, things are not going as smooth. Not only is their five year plan not going … well … as planned, there is some audible dissent in the form of peaceful (as of now) demonstration of workers on strike from time to time. With this, we do not expect them to have too much funds for armament procurement
>>4318919ALERT!In late September, while on patrol north of Dolores, our Fairmile gunboat has encountered two of the PRS S-38 class (ex-German) Motor Torpedo Boats near our coastline, what are your orders?>Escort them out of our territorial waters, no need to escalate and buy into the provocation.>What is next? They are going to move the border posts on their own maybe? OPEN FIRE!!!
>>4318938>>Escort them out of our territorial waters, no need to escalate and buy into the provocation.Keep an eye out for our boat and a radio contact open.
>>4318989>>4318963>>4318955Roll two dices of 6
Rolled 5 (1d6)>>4318997
Rolled 4, 5 = 9 (2d6)>>4318997
>>4319001>>4319023As soon as the PRS boats spot our vessel, they do a 180 and set course back for their waters. Our seamen thus learn why it is called a "Schnell" boat as they rapidly gain distance and return to PRS waters.(From roll of 5)The incident does not get much publicity as neither side speaks out too strongly about it.+5 Tension to current level of 40%(From roll of 4)Procurement list for 1949 next.
Good outcome I think, with our economic advantage I’d say time is on our side.
Procurement list for 1948: Current defense budget index value: 17$Ammunition:>Expand our stockpile of small arms rounds (.303 and 9mm): Costs 1$>Expand our stockpile of 6pdr ammunition and PIAT AT grenades: Costs: 1$Small arms:>Acquire more British small arms for arming a support company: 1$>Acquire more British small arms for one company: 2$>Order American small arms for one company: 4$>Acquire more British small arms for one battalion: 8$>Order American small arms for one battalion: 12$Heavy weapons:>Buy M2 Browning .50 cal machineguns from USA to form a support company: 4$>Buy three more 6-pdr AT guns to upgun our company: 2$>Buy American M18 57mm recoilless rifles to form a support company: 5$>Buy British 3-inch mortars to form a support company: 3$>Buy British 20mm Oerlikon AA guns to form an anti-aircraft support company: 6$>Buy British 40mm Bofors AA guns to form an anti-aircraft support company: 8$>Buy British QF 25-pdr howitzers to form an artillery company: 10$Vehicles:>Buy three British Daimler armored cars armed with a 37mm gun and a 7.92mm machine gun: 12$>Buy two American M8 Greyhound armored cars, armed with 37mm gun, 50. Cal M2 and a 30. Cal MG: 12$>Buy two British “Vosper” motor torpedo boats, armed with one 20mm Oerlikon AA gun and 2 torpedoes: 8$>Buy two American “Elco” motor torpedo boats, armed with two .50 caliber M2 machine guns and 2 torpedoes: 10$>Buy one British “Fairmile” motor gunboat, armed with two Mollins guns (essentially autoloaded 6-pdrs) and 2x20mm Oerlikons: 7$>Buy three American NAA T-6 “Texan” trainer planes, unarmed: 14$
Of course, I meant 1949 ^
>>4319089>Expand our stockpile of small arms rounds (.303 and 9mm): Costs 1$>Expand our stockpile of 6pdr ammunition and PIAT AT grenades: Costs: 1$>Buy three British Daimler armored cars armed with a 37mm gun and a 7.92mm machine gun: 12$>Buy three more 6-pdr AT guns to upgun our company: 2$>Acquire more British small arms for arming a support company: 1$
not /k/ but do you normally need air transport at this stage?
>>4319089Could we arm those rioting workers? Hypothetically speaking.
>>4319089>Expand our stockpile of small arms rounds (.303 and 9mm): Costs 1$>Expand our stockpile of 6pdr ammunition and PIAT AT grenades: Costs: 1$>Acquire more British small arms for arming a support company: 1$>Acquire more British small arms for three companies: 6$>Buy two British “Vosper” motor torpedo boats, armed with one 20mm Oerlikon AA gun and 2 torpedoes: 8$
>>4319113Now you are finally getting into the cold war mindset, yes we can.>>4319110Helicopters are still not popular, there is a long way till the 60's. And for planes ... there are two dirt airfields on the whole island, counting the north side too. Definitely not the time for it now.
>>4319089gonna go with >>4319114
>>4319114>>4319141>>4319153>>4319163Ok, what to do with the guns for the three companies, form three companies or merge one existing company to form a battalion?
>>4319238Get the 3 companies to form with the sole company at the border for a battalion
>>4319238Let's make our first battalion and put it on the border
>>4319238I think with the reds deploying armor (albeit light), it would be best to be able to form a line if possible to prevent them from causing chaos in our rear, therefore>companies
>>4319274>>4319251>>4319247Three companies it is.Roll three standard rolls for the PRS acquisition.
Rolled 3 (1d6)>>4319305
Rolled 4 (1d6)>>4319305
>>4319307>>4319314>>4319316Reports (roll of 4) indicate that the PRS has concentrated on forming a heavy support company with DshK machine guns and 76mm ZiS-3 dual purpose guns (anti-tank and artillery). These guns have lower penetration than our 6-pdr guns, but have way more efficient HE shell. Their machine guns also render attacks from our companies a suicide.Roll three times for the political events of 1949
Rolled 6 (1d6)>>4319347
Rolled 3 (1d6)>>4319347
>>4319347sounds like we may need to get some indirect fire, but I'd definitely like to secure some more naval assets as well.
>>4319347Can we divert military funds to getting an airfield built?
>>4319383Screw Navy we need mobility.
The president managed to pull some diplomatic stunts with his new business partners in France, leading to an official delegation visiting our capital. In their mingling, they were shortly presented with the men of 1st Company which is garrisoned there. While commending the efforts we’ve done on organizing a defense force, they half-jokingly criticized us for “buying too much British”. One thing led to another and a month later a cache of French MAS-36 rifles was sent together with few instructors to help us train a specialized unit for combat in rough conditions such as mountains and forests. The president does not care if you want the company or not, he wants to show off in front of the French and recommends buying their goods if they are available. The good economy and popular support probably left him with a shortage of things to do…(From roll of 6, fifty rifles enter the stockpile, budget raised by few points)In the People’s Republic, the people are getting a short break. The propaganda (and mostly the secret police) has quelled most of the unrest, but their economy is still not taking off. On the worrying side of things, they made a big deal of establishing diplomatic relations with Communist China that apparently just prevailed over the KMT. If they get cozy with the asian communists, we can expect a steady flow of cheap small arms towards the PRS.(From roll of 3)Border incidents did not occur in 1949, but as previously mentioned, our president ran out of things to worry about and took on criticizing the PRS on a regular basis over the quelling of the unrest. And some statements were rather incendiary and played into the hands of their propaganda.Tension +10% (Currently at 50%)
>>4319387We can already use the civilian one, the air traffic is not exactly big as of now.>>4319383>>4319391Now this here really sounds like a ministry of defense.
>French butthurt gave us a special force companyNice
>>4319409Yeah, but the civvie airport hasn't been built yet, right?If I'm right about that, let's devote some funds to that. If not, let's either buy some artillery or fortify the border. They don't have armored vehicles or proper artillery, so they can't do much about it we build some bunkers/start shelling them.
>>4319427Don't forget the reds have at least 3 BA-64's. I do agree that artillery should be near the top of our list of things to get.
>>4319440Considering it was stated they can barely take rifle fire, I might be inclined to disagree with you on the "armored" part of that, but yeah.
>>4319448They're fast though. The infantry has enough to wipe the "armor" out easily but can't if the BA-64 just outmaneuvers them. Some trucks or light tanks should be next to get with a bit of artillery
>>4319448We should buy some French shit to keep the money rolling. Just until a new president comes to office. Maybe they'll have some useful stuff
>>4319452Armored cars seem like an expensive waste of money if we are able to afford actual armor in the future, especially with how our economy is looking, let's grab some arty for now and worry about mobility later.
>>4319453This, continue sucking off the French>>4319456we are ahead of the communists and it seems right now we are just better overall
Procurement list for 1950: Current defense budget index value: 20$Ammunition:>Buy French ammunition for the newly acquired rifles: Costs 1$>Expand our stockpile of 6pdr ammunition and PIAT AT grenades: Costs: 1$Small arms:>Acquire more British small arms for one company: 2$>Respect the president’s whims and buy French small arms for one company: 3$>Order American small arms for one company: 4$>Acquire more British small arms for one battalion: 8$>Order American small arms for one battalion: 12$Heavy weapons:>Buy M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 1$>Buy 6 British 17-pdr AT guns to upgrade our AT unit: 17$>Buy American M18 57mm recoilless rifles to form a support company: 5$>Buy British 3-inch mortars to form a support company: 3$>Buy British 20mm Oerlikon AA guns to form an anti-aircraft support company: 6$>Buy British 40mm Bofors AA guns to form an anti-aircraft support company: 8$>Buy British QF 25-pdr (87mm) howitzers to form an artillery company: 9$>Buy American M101 (105mm) howitzers to form an artillery company: 11$Transport Vehicles:>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$>Buy 5 American M3 half-tracks, unarmed: 11$Combat Vehicles:>Buy three British Daimler armored cars armed with a 37mm gun and a 7.92mm machine gun: 12$>Buy two American M8 Greyhound armored cars, armed with 37mm gun, 50. Cal M2 and a 30. Cal MG: 12$>Buy three pre-war French Panhard 178 armored cars, armed with a 25mm gun and a 7mm machine gun: 11$>Buy two American M5 Stuart light tanks, armed with 37mm gun and a 30. Cal MG: 19$>Buy two British “Vosper” motor torpedo boats, armed with one 20mm Oerlikon AA gun and 2 torpedoes: 8$>Buy two American “Elco” motor torpedo boats, armed with two .50 caliber M2 machine guns and 2 torpedoes: 10$>Buy one British “Fairmile” motor gunboat, armed with two Mollins guns (essentially autoloaded 6-pdrs) and 2x20mm Oerlikons: 7$>Buy three American NAA T-6 “Texan” trainer planes, unarmed: 14$>Buy one American PBY-5 “Catalina” flying boat for maritime patrol and light bombing: 18$
>>4319459Alright how do we get our shitty Militia trained company to regular or higher?
Fleshed out the list with new options, adjusted prices so it took me a while.I will continue this after 10-12 hours as I need sleep so I dont give the reds heavy tanks by accident or some shit lol.
>>4319459>Buy French ammunition for the newly acquired rifles: Costs 1$>Respect the president’s whims and buy French small arms for one company: 3$>Buy American M101 (105mm) howitzers to form an artillery company: 11$>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$How much would it cost to begin setting up spies in the commie half? I want to know exactly what they're doing
>>4319459>Buy French ammunition for the newly acquired rifles: Costs 1$>Expand our stockpile of 6pdr ammunition and PIAT AT grenades: Costs: 1$>Respect the president’s whims and buy French small arms for one company: 3$>Buy British QF 25-pdr (87mm) howitzers to form an artillery company: 9$>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$>Acquire more British small arms for one company: 2$
>>4319464Shell out for ammo and get to practicing.>>4319459>Buy French ammunition for the newly acquired rifles: Costs 1$>Respect the president’s whims and buy French small arms for one company: 3$>Buy British QF 25-pdr (87mm) howitzers to form an artillery company: 9$>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$>Expand our stockpile of 6pdr ammunition and PIAT AT grenades: Costs: 1$>Acquire more British small arms for one company: 2$Appease the president, checkArtillery and something to pull it with, checkTwo more companies, check
>>4319459>Buy French ammunition for the newly acquired rifles: Costs 1$>Respect the president’s whims and buy French small arms for one company: 3$>Buy British QF 25-pdr (87mm) howitzers to form an artillery company: 9$>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$>Expand our stockpile of 6pdr ammunition and PIAT AT grenades: Costs: 1$>Acquire more British small arms for one company: 2$
>>4319481+1commies can't get close enough to shoot us if we blow them to pieces with foreign artillery
>>4319481>>4319489We can also mad max it up if worses come to worst, just attach some plating and some mounts for the Brens.
>>4319497Pretty sure the British did that in north africa, maybe we can ask them to give us some tips?
>>4319481+1, and I also vote to conduct military exercises
>>4319512If things go well the French will be helping us. With them on our side we'll be invincible.
>>4319519They already have a good opinion of us and when we start buying supplies from them, not only will our reputation with the president increase possibly giving us a larger budget but the French will be more inclined to send us better stuff.
>>4319481+1, while I'd like heavier artillery if possible, that would eat too much of the budget. We also need to do military exercises.
>>4319481>>4319489>>4319517>>4320095Alright, will form a new battalion at the border with the new company and attach the artillery company to it, this way it can sit on a defensive position at that hill and fire at the DMZ if something decides to start crosing it.The Mountain company will be given French units, with an emphasis on Machine guns (FM24's) to give it an additional defensive edge.Need three single rolls of 6 for the PRS acquisition.
Rolled 5 (1d6)>>4320190
Rolled 4 (1d6)>>4320190
It may be a good idea to grab a PBY Catalina or 2 just to be able to do some air recon and patrol, even if their combat capabilities are lacking.
>>4320192>>4320194>>4320198Intelligence reports that he PRS has acquired 4 SU-76 self propelled guns. They are based on a light tank chassis and are able to be taken out with every AT weapon in our arsenal, plus it is open top.It is armed with the same 76mm (thus the name) cannon they already operate as an infantry gun.They have also figured out their ex-German boat will not live for too long without spare parts and bought 4 Soviet G-5 light torpedo boats. They have only one DshK machine gun as guns, but carry two torpedoes and are even faster and more agile than the Schnellboats.Further details on their organisation behind the Corazol province are not available.Roll three dices of 6 for the political events of 1950. If we get a good roll, the president may agree to fund intelligence operations.
Btw, dropping a link for the unit icons in case someone sees this kind of shit for the first time.http://niehorster.org/000_admin/009_symbols.html
Rolled 6 (1d6)>>4320211Come on president give us more money
Rolled 3 (1d6)>>4320211>>4320220Damn our economy is nutsIt looks like their front line is devoid of Infantry support, if it stays like that we could just walks over their guns
Rolled 1 (1d6)>>4320211
>>4320223Can we start spewing propaganda over the border about how much better we are?
>>4320211Is it possible for us to build an arms factory and buy gun licenses? It might be useful to not need to rely as much on foreign import.
>>4320220Very nice!Perhaps we can expand the reach of the military under the auspice of ‘nation-building’A proper set of border bunkers would be good, or a proper airport or a stronger road or radio network The last one is probably the most useful - logistics and communication are key after allSide question, are our officers just locally appointed? Do we have an officers academy? Might be good to do a military exchange with France or the UK...
>>4320237The reds are getting so much indirect fire and so little infantry that I don’t think fortifications will be very useful, I think we’d be better off on the offensive to destroy / force the enemy to abandon their heavy equipment.
>>4320237Stronger road network would be best, we got the trucks and we want to make sure they don’t fall over, crash and explode. Also the commies are gonna have a harder time trying to attack us since we have better terrain for that and more troops so we can wait on bunkers for now.
>>4320237Behind good officers, I think that a good intelligence agency is our best bet. Something along the lines of mossad? Our and Israel’s positions have similarities.
>>4320239Perhaps we should invent in fast moving offensive vehicles and overrun their artillery? >>4320240Ask Israel for Mossad help
>>4320241They would have to be heavily armored or we would need to pin them down somehow, they have a lot of anti tank already.
>>4320220>>4320225>>4320227In 1950, the president won the spring election in an absolute landslide. Few months after that, the prime minister was also replaced and the liberal party lost the little influence it had over the internal affairs. The conservatives initially were opposing intelligence gathering operations in the north, but after the outbreak of the Korean War in the summer, they rapidly reconsidered. President’s plans are to utilize foreign citizens to do the intelligence collection as the PRS is still rather open to the world and so we do not by accident send one our citizen into a commie dungeon if he gets caught. (From rol of 6, budget also increased due to worries of a Korea scenario occurring on the island)The PRS still has not made any substantial move, they keep receiving farming equipment for free and opened a cannery with Soviet help, but that can not match our superior mining industry.(From roll of 3)The conflict in the far east later became a regular talking point of our president who criticized communist aggression on an almost daily basis. At a certain point apparently the North’s supreme whatever they have as leader, started firing back insults at our “collaboration with imperialism”. Week after week of them trying to one up each other, one thing leads to another … and we are both mobilized and on high alert. Seems war is just a shot away!!!Tension +40% (to 90%)(From roll of 1)
>>4320244That escalated rapidly.
>>4320244>Rolled one> Expecting bad thing> Get close to war> Total win
https://youtu.be/OJyXxV0MPsEThread themeWith the rapid deterioration of relations with the PRS, the cabinet is convinced war is inevitable. Unfortunately it comes at a moment where the Americans and British have their hands full over in Korea. The only side we may count on is France. You are asked to give your opinion on the two options presented...>Preemptively invite the French on the island under the pretext to defend their business interests. This will surely escalate the situation and lead to war, but we will have some extra backup>We are not ready yet! Convince the politicians to call in a summit with the PRS somewhere neutral, Portugal, Spain, whatever. Even if we fail to de-escalate, that will give us some time to get more weapons, but the same applies for them.>Do nothing, continue as usual.
>>4320263>We are not ready yet! Convince the politicians to call in a summit with the PRS somewhere neutral, Portugal, Spain, whatever. Even if we fail to de-escalate, that will give us some time to get more weapons, but the same applies for them.Our economy is so much better than theirs, delay as long as possible.
>>4320263>Preemptively invite the French on the island under the pretext to defend their business interests. This will surely escalate the situation and lead to war, but we will have some extra backupI'm not sure about the quality of our troops, but at worst we can arrange a ceasefire after Korea.
>>4320263>Preemptively invite the French on the island under the pretext to defend their business interests. This will surely escalate the situation and lead to war, but we will have some extra backup
>>4320270>>4320267Why are we doing this? We can invite the french during the war, and another round of buying is strictly beneficial to us.
>>4320272France might be less inclined if we invite them during the war. Also, they might be occupied with other colonial endeavours. Another reason is to test their forces and ours, giving us experience.
>>4320272I'm not gonna be the one to back down and make us look like cowards on the world stage.
>>4320276>>4320278Provoking an early war is exactly what they want. Everyone knows war is inevitable, including the french. If they don’t join us during the war they won’t send troops right before it either.
>>4320276>>4320278Better economy = better shit we can get besides half of our army is militia, the French will help anyway because it's in their best interest to keep us alive.>>4320263>We are not ready yet! Convince the politicians to call in a summit with the PRS somewhere neutral, Portugal, Spain, whatever. Even if we fail to de-escalate, that will give us some time to get more weapons, but the same applies for them.
>>4320282This war doesn't have to be the deciding war, if we suffer losses we can arrange a ceasefire. It will provide us with good info about their tactics and strategy and troop strength. I'd be more in favour of a border war than a full on war, but we'll take what we can get.
>>4320282Fine.>>4320270Switch my vote to wait and deescalate
>>4320263>We are not ready yet! Convince the politicians to call in a summit with the PRS somewhere neutral, Portugal, Spain, whatever. Even if we fail to de-escalate, that will give us some time to get more weapons, but the same applies for them.Another round of buying than we can do this
>>4320290>>4320288>>4320284>>4320265De-escalation it is.Two rolls of 6 will determine the outcome.
Rolled 4 (1d6)>>4320306
Rolled 2 (1d6)>>4320306
>>4320309>>4320312After a week of mobilization on both sides, a summit is proposed by our cabinet. The PRS hastily agreed, showing that they do not feel confident fighting us at this stage.(From roll of 4)The summit itself is held in Belgium, it was much talk and no concrete result. Our delegation was trying to look as the righteous side and proposed treaties for free trade and demilitarizing the waters between Everon and Dolores. These efforts mostly derailed the de-escalation efforts as they were taken as “an attack on the sovereign workers of Sahrani” and not much was achieved other than delaying the conflictTension -10% (Currently 80%)(From roll of 2)
>>4320316All right it seems war is gonna happen right after we gain more weaponry.
Procurement list for 1951:Notes:Korean war limits capabilities of UK/USA to provide some equipment and raises the price of some goods. French equipment options expanded, Sweden added as a supplier.Current defense budget index value: 25$Ammunition:>Buy French ammunition for the newly acquired rifles and MG’s: Costs 1$>Expand our stockpile of 25pdr and 6pdr ammunition (PIAT is no longer in production): Costs: 3$Small arms:>Buy British small arms for one company: 4$>Acquire British small arms for one battalion: 11$>Buy French small arms for one company: 3$>Buy French small arms for one battalion: 10$>Order American small arms for one company: 5$>Order American small arms for one battalion: 13$ >Order a cache of Swedish small arms for trial: 2$Heavy weapons:>Buy M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 1$>Buy British 3-inch mortars to form a support company: 3$>Buy British 20mm Oerlikon AA guns to form an anti-aircraft support company: 6$>Buy Swedish 40mm Bofors AA guns to form an anti-aircraft support company: 8$>Buy British QF 25-pdr (87mm) howitzers to form an artillery company: 12$>Buy American M101 (105mm) howitzers to form an artillery company: 13$Transport Vehicles:>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$>Buy 5 American M3 half-tracks, unarmed, can be fitted with a M2 Browning: 10$Combat Vehicles:>Buy three British Daimler armored cars armed with a 37mm gun and a 7.92mm machine gun: 13$>Buy two American M8 Greyhound armored cars, armed with 37mm gun, 50. Cal M2 and a 30. Cal MG: 11$>Buy three pre-war French Panhard 178 armored cars, armed with a 25mm gun and a 7mm machine gun: 10$>Buy two American M5 Stuart light tanks, armed with 37mm gun and a 30. Cal MG: 16$>Buy three Swedish Strv m/40 light tanks, armed with 37mm gun and two 8mm machine guns: 19$>Buy two American M8 Scott light fire support tanks, armed with a short 75mm gun and a .50 MG: 18$>Buy two American “Elco” motor torpedo boats, armed with two .50 caliber M2 machine guns and 2 torpedoes: 10$>Buy one British “Fairmile” motor gunboat, armed with two Mollins guns (essentially autoloaded 6-pdrs) and 2x20mm Oerlikons: 8$>Buy three American NAA T-6 “Texan” trainer planes, unarmed: 11$>Buy one American PBY-5 “Catalina” flying boat for maritime patrol and light bombing: 14$
>>4320237>Side question, are our officers just locally appointed? Do we have an officers academy? Might be good to do a military exchange with France or the UK...The are mostly locally appointed, if tension was not so high, there'd be the option to send military observers to Korea, alas we can not right now. The french instructor visit did relay some unit XP though.>>4320230Yes, in a few years, given of course the economy wont crash. Ammo workshop will come first as 9mm are not hard to make in a supervised garage if you buy the tools for that.>>4320229Our president does that for free, look where it got us.
>>4320327Ammunition:>Expand our stockpile of 25pdr and 6pdr ammunition (PIAT is no longer in production): Costs: 3$Small Arms:>Order a cache of Swedish small arms for trial: 2$ (To be sent to our reserves)Mainly just to spend our money, but also to have weapons in our reserve to replace combat losses.Heavy Weapons:>Buy British QF 25-pdr (87mm) howitzers to form an artillery company: 12$More DakkaCombat Vehicles:>Buy one British “Fairmile” motor gunboat, armed with two Mollins guns (essentially autoloaded 6-pdrs) and 2x20mm Oerlikons: 8$To match the reds naval buildup, losing our source of supply would be bad, as would commandos behind our lines.
>>4320327>>4320335Also, move our battalion out of our town near the border and on the left flank of our border (where the AT guns will be most useful)
>>4320327>Buy French ammunition for the newly acquired rifles and MG’s: Costs 1$>Expand our stockpile of 25pdr and 6pdr ammunition (PIAT is no longer in production): Costs: 3$>Buy 2 M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 2$>Buy British 3-inch mortars to form a support company: 3$>Buy two American M5 Stuart light tanks, armed with 37mm gun and a 30. Cal MG: 16$
>>4320327Ammo:>Buy French ammunition for the newly acquired rifles and MG’s: Costs 1$Ammo is needed, if this war will last>Expand our stockpile of 25pdr and 6pdr ammunition (PIAT is no longer in production): Costs: 3$Artillery ammo is always good.Small Arms:>Order a cache of Swedish small arms for trial: 2$Let's see if the Swedes produce good stuff>Buy French small arms for one company: 3$Another company for the meat grinder, French guns because it's cheapHeavy Weapons:>Buy M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 1$Just to spend extra money>Buy British 3-inch mortars to form a support company: 3$Good for small scale engagements and urban warfareWas going to get more 25pdrs, but budget won't allow it Combat Vehicles:>Buy three American NAA T-6 “Texan” trainer planes, unarmed: 11$We absolutely need the recon, and I don't think the Reds will expect it.
>>4320327Alternatively, we can do this if we don’t want the extra arty:Ammunition:>Expand our stockpile of 25pdr and 6pdr ammunition (PIAT is no longer in production): Costs: 3$Combat Vehicles:>Buy one British “Fairmile” motor gunboat, armed with two Mollins guns (essentially autoloaded 6-pdrs) and 2x20mm Oerlikons: 8$Aforementioned naval buildup response>Buy one American PBY-5 “Catalina” flying boat for maritime patrol and light bombing: 14$For recon / maritime patrol / light bombing
>>4320344If the war lasts, we need to be able to get more equipment / ammo over time, which requires some naval presence.
>>4320348That's true, but I see that as not being possible, as they have a bigger navy. I think that ship has already sailed, so to say. A boat now is of high risk to get sunk, and I don't want to risk that.
>>4320344Change my vote to thisNo tanks for now sadly, maybe after Korea once it’s finished.
>>4320353I think our navy is actually better than theirs with another gun boat, all they have is crappy torpedo boats, and torpedoes aren’t exactly great against small nimble ships. We could end up substantially outgunning them.
>>4320357You do make a point, but I think the planes will give us more advantage in fighting the war and bringing it to a close quickly. However, I'd be inclined to vote for >>4320345 if the others agree with it.
>>4320367You’re right, now that I think about it, the 3 planes are better than one, so I’ll change my options around:>>4320335- 1 PBY Catalina (+$14)>Buy three American NAA T-6 “Texan” trainer planes, unarmed: 11$and to spend extra $3:>Buy French small arms for one company: 3$
>>4320373That seems like a good compromise, switching my vote to this.
>>4320373switching to this
>>4320373Wait I’m retarded, that post didn’t have a catalina, so instead:- Arty (+12)- Swede Arms (+2)and add>Buy French small arms for one company: 3$>Buy three American NAA T-6 “Texan” trainer planes, unarmed: 11$
Ok, what is the final decision, got a bit lost with the votes.
>>4320378Here is my updated proposal to avoid confusion that we just talked about:Ammunition:>Expand our stockpile of 25pdr and 6pdr ammunition (PIAT is no longer in production): Costs: 3$Small Arms:>Buy French small arms for one company: 3$Combat Vehicles:>Buy three American NAA T-6 “Texan” trainer planes, unarmed: 11$>Buy one British “Fairmile” motor gunboat, armed with two Mollins guns (essentially autoloaded 6-pdrs) and 2x20mm Oerlikons: 8$
>>4320384>>4320375>>4320377This should be it right?>>4320385
>>4320384I think >>4320385 has 3 votes, making it the one with the most votes.
>>4320389also im this guy >>4320377, just phoneposting in the shitter right now
>>4320385Ok, here is the readout. Thoughts on moving the batt. with the AT to the border area outside of the town as of this anon >>4320340Roll three of 6 for the PRS acquisition.
Rolled 1 (1d6)>>4320410Give me a 1
Rolled 1 (1d6)>>4320410
>>4320420>>4320422>>4320424PRS on suicide watch
>>4320424>>4320422>>4320420>>4320426>>4320427Unfortunately the first two rolls are for a selection of combinations what equipment they get, it does not mean "bad shit" for them. The third is for our intelligence report, which despite being 1, will get a +2 modifier for the espionage stuff.
>>4320444Not as bad as PRS is feeling watching us get nonstop 6’s booming our economy while they stagnate in the shackles of communism.
The PRS has hastily assembled a new infantry battalion, attached the 76mm artillery to it and packed their line tighter around Corazol in a what looks like a defensive formation. They will also hold a military parade for their 5th anniversary at some point in the spring, which may give our agent (a Spaniard posing a communist veteran from the civil war, but he is exactly the opposite and working for us) a picture of their Elite 1st Company. Soviet aid is also expected to arrive for the event as an act of solidarity.We could theoretically take the fight to them, even with the extra battalion they raised, but that may hurt our international image. We can try a more subtle provocation on the border, but we can get away only with border skirmishes without looking bad.Or, we can sit down and let the president do his usual thing, hoping they take the bait, before the presumed Soviet shipment arrives.
>>4320476Let the president do his thing. He has done good for us so far.
>>4320476>sit down and let the president do his usual thing, hoping they take the bait, before the presumed Soviet shipment arrives.
>>4320482+1 no need to be hasty, not when soviets are in town. If things get to the point where hostilities are imminent though, we should send up scout planes to sight their exact field gun positions so our artillery can conduct counter battery operations.
>>4320476I vote for border skirmishes, gives an estimate of their capabilities.
>>4320489>>4320487>>4320482Ok, then the standard three rolls of 6 are due for 1951.
Rolled 3 (1d6)>>4320495
Rolled 4 (1d6)>>4320495Come on Mr President I believe in you
Rolled 2 (1d6)>>4320387baka I wake up and see we got another boat instead of something useful
Rolled 1 (1d6)>>4320495
>>4320500>>4320501>>4320506The internal affairs in our country became a little strained, after the liberal opposition made a resurgence, following the habit of the president to talk shit about the PRS. He defended himself be stating that “the freedom to express his personal views on totalitarian regimes is what our society is based on”. In the political bickering, it seems like the economy took the back seat in policy.(From roll of 3, no buffs or debuffs)The North held its promise and conducted some shoddy parade to commemorate the “revolution” and show solidarity with China that is “currently bearing the torch in the fight against imperialism” according to their own words.We finally caught a glimpse of their 1st Shock Company as they call it, and it looks like the only properly armed unit. They have semi automatic SVT rifles, two machineguns per squad and PPS sub machine guns. They have good defensive and offensive capabilities. An aid shipment did arrive from the Soviet Union, but it was mostly ammunition and agricultural tractors according to our agent.(From roll of 4, slight economy/defense increase)In the summer an accident occurred in the bay of Corazol. A civilian fishing boat from our side, with three citizens on board was captured and interned in Everon under the pretext they entered the supposedly demilitarized bay for smuggling reasons. They refuse to return the men and demand that they are the ones who will prosecute them … as of course we do not diplomatically recognize each other as sovereign states.What do we do?>Let it slide, for all we know they could be actual smugglers. If they are not, well, we are not starting the war over this.>Limited action, get our navy boats to trespass into Everon harbor and demand the release of our citizens.>This pretext is good enough and this is an opportunity to begin the conflict with initiative on our side, begin preparations for a land incursion over the border !
>This pretext is good enough and this is an opportunity to begin the conflict with initiative on our side, begin preparations for a land incursion over the border !Nobody kidnaps our people. Let's liberate the north!
>>4320560>Limited action, get our navy boats to trespass into Everon harbor and demand the release of our citizens.We don’t want to engage open war just yet but we want our civilians back. If they refuse than start calling the French in.
>>4320560>Limited action, get our navy boats to trespass into Everon harbor and demand the release of our citizens.
>>4320578>>4320600>>4320607Three rolls of 6 will determine the outcome.
Rolled 5 (1d6)>>4320627
Rolled 2 (1d6)>>4320627
Rolled 3 (1d6)>>4320627
>>4320627our rolls could be worse
>>4320666The last time we had a naval encounter, the first role was our performance and the second was theirs. If the format follows, we got a 5 and they got a 2, so I'd say this is probably really good.
Could we next time buy more grenades. Our troops are really lacking in the grenade department and we'll need more ammo if we go for superior firepower in the war.
>>4320676Yeah didn't catch that on first glance. I'm new to the thread
>>4320679Grenades won't make as much as a difference as some heavy equipment. We should get artillery or armor, and more trucks.
>>4320694Trucks really more for stategic deployment. Tanks are to expensive to maintain and you need infatry to support it.
>>4320697Spelling sucks today.
>>4320628>>4320634>>4320641Our fleet is immediately dispatched towards Everon upon issuing the order. They arrive within 3 hours meeting no PRS vessels. Our demands are made clear via loudspeaker without disembarking on the harbor, but the police chief responds that he cannot do that without an explicit order from the capital to do so. No wonder, he would probably get shot if he acts on his own. White this is going on, the three ex-German boats appear on the horizon coming full speed towards our four vessels. Two 57mm warning shots make them reconsider and they turn around keeping a distance of around 4km.As this happens, the police officer notifies us that our request has been relayed and they are waiting for a response.(Yes, roll of 5 was ours, roll of 2 was theirs, and the 3 was the outcome)What are your orders?>Keep the vessels near Everon until a response is given.>Withdraw in case they are bullshitting us to buy time.>We have half of their fleet in sight, move in to cripple them before they get the chance to raid merchant shipping when the time comes.
>>4320730>Keep the vessels near Everon until a response is given.
>>4320730>Keep the vessels near Everon until a response is given.No need to escalate the situation
>>4320730>We have half of their fleet in sight, move in to cripple them before they get the chance to raid merchant shipping when the time comesWe spent so much money on these dumb boats at least have the nuts to use em.
>>4320730>Keep the vessels near Everon until a response is given
>>4320767>>4320737>>4320735Roll two dices of 6
Rolled 1 (1d6)>>4320772
Rolled 2 (1d6)>>4320772
Rolled 3 (1d6)>>4320772
>>4320783>>4320785>>4320787Oh buy this ain’t good
>>4320801could be good if they shoot first
>>4320783>>4320785Two hours pass and nothing happens, the PRS boats keep their distance, the police chief insists that they have not received a response from the capital. Our boats are nearly a kilometer out at sea.Either they can’t reach a consensus on a flash political meeting, or the “dear leader” is preoccupied with inspecting a cabbage field or some other commie bullshit you think…About when the sailors are thinking about radioing back for instructions, a chain of explosions rocks the fleet. Before they have time to figure out what is going on, another set of explosions sets off. Looks like shelling from 76mm guns, but all miss.The PRS boats rapidly begin closing the distance, our boats change course to the south and while beginning the retreat they get a visual on the SU-76 guns that were brought in from the border area (3 hexes away = 45km). The SPG’s continue to fire salvos that do not score direct hits at our boats. The Fairmiles open fire with the 57mm Mollins guns at terminal range against the Schnellboats but all salvos miss.The PRS fleet, seeing our vessels are intact from the shelling, disengage and return to Everon.(Roll of 1 was choice of action for PRS, roll of 2 was the outcome of that)Our fleet has returned to our territorial waters without being chased. What are the orders for the fleet?>Enter their waters again, avoiding Everon. See if we can kidnap some of their fishermen in return.>Keep patrolling the area north of Dolores, do not provoke further actions from the PRS.>Rebase the fleet in Paraiso to protect merchant shipping from an eventual retaliation for our trespassing. What are the orders for the army?>Half of their artillery is 45km away, move in!!!>Hold ground, we see no movement on their side of the DMZ.
>>4320836>Enter their waters again, avoiding Everon. See if we can kidnap some of their fishermen in return.Instead of kidnapping can we go hunting for their navy?>Half of their artillery is 45km away, move in!!!
>>4320836>Enter their waters again, avoiding Everon. See if we can kidnap some of their fishermen in return.>Hold ground, we see no movement on their side of the DMZ.Also: >Call the French in and ask for support Time for our bootlicking to pay off
>>4320843+1, also call the french
>>4320843Support, but let's wait on the French. Aren't they reeling from the political backlash of Indochina? Don't put them in an impossible position, they're in the process of losing one war, let's show them we can kill commies good before asking them to invest in another.
>>4320868Good point, no longer voting for french support
>>4320843this, fucker violated our NAP first, some retaliation is in order.
>>4320868French air strikes would be great though and the commies don’t have any anti-air
>>4320836>Enter their waters again, avoiding Everon. See if we can kidnap some of their fishermen in return.>Hold ground, we see no movement on their side of the DMZ.We won’t be the ones to start the war, but we can’t leave their aggression without a response Also, due to our economic strength - the longer we hold out for the war, the better.
>>4320843>>4320860>>4320868>>4320872>>4320870Roger, here is a map of the situation, draw orders on it.I will allow myself to call the French, what Anon said at >>4320868 will become factually correct but mostly after the Dien Bien Phu shitfuckery in 1954 occurs. As of now Indochina is still not the dumpster fire it evolved to be, there are good chances help will arrive soon.
>>4320872proud of you Anon
>>4320888General advance to engage, with the unit with anti-tank moving to flank and engage the enemy artillery.Mountains and the 4th stay as a reserve to be committed where we start winning
>>4320908Are you sure you want to attack into the battalion entrenched in the city with DshK’s and mortars with two companies of militia and no support? I’d say form a perimeter around the city, collapse their left flank, and then move in with numbers from multiple directions. Also send up the recon planes to scout enemy movement and act as spotters for artillery.
>>4320843>>4320888+1Call in the French
>>4320908>>4320915Also wait to move in the boats until the spg’s leave. What they can do in the meantime is move north / northeast to cutoff their schnellboats retreat, and move in once the spg’s leave.
>>4320915The militia just needs to keep them occupied. The important thing is to deal with the heavy stuff.
>>4320836>Hold ground, we see no movement on their side of the DMZ.We have completely lost the initiative. They probably have a prepared defensive and our equipment isn't good enough to break through. Get em next time. Spend all that money on boats then act indecisively. Come on guys.
>>4320931I’m not sure that we do need to keep them occupied, if they leave then they abandon their defensive position which we can capture for free, and we can strike them in the flank/rear
>>4320931No point in wasting limited manpower. We might have more at home but reinforcement takes time. Let's have the companies wait for a minute.I agree with >>4320928, let's wait for the boats to leave, intercept if they try to ferry a company. I don't want to go back and edit my plans.>>4320932??? Not on the ground we haven't. Those battalions are ill equipped and trained, are they not? One is exposed and ripe for attack. The enemy is in a weak position internally, strike now to capitalize.
>>4320944something like this shall work, we need to take care of battalion 2 because those artillery pieces are gonna hurt
>>4320944They're well equipped, they have machine guns, mortars, He/Anti tank guns and some armored cars. Plus the SPARTY is quick enough to move back to a good position.
>>4320932Completely agree anon We’ve lost the element of surprise, we’ll get em next time
>>4320950We have machine guns as well, and in greater numbers. Armored cars are not a worry, we have PIATs and the 1st Battalion has AT attached. Those mortars are not a worry if they are trapped up in the city, out of range. We can pin the enemy 2nd Battalion, which is not only green but exposed. We can either destroy or capture the 76mm's that are attached to it. Our 2nd Battalion is moving behind them, cutting off escape. If we neutralize that battalion we are in an extremely favorable position.And what does surprise have anything to do with it? Both sides have been expecting war for a year now.
>>4320958No we haven’t, if they were expecting a ground attack they wouldn’t have moved the SPGs
>>4320967They're self propelled guns.They will drive back and dab on you in the middle of the offensive.
>>4320975This is what the French boot licking was for. Get them to air strike the living hell out of the SPGs. Also our AT guns can easily take them out if we get close enough.
>>4320981With the Korean war kicking off. China and Russia will have it's hands full with Korea. While the French will be free from the fight until 1954 when Dien Bien Phu happens. So this would be the perfect time for the boot licking action to occur
>>4320975SPG's have range of 13km. They are out of range of what would be the majority of the offensive. Our 6 pounders have a range of almost 5km. >>4320981 Getting close enough will probably not happen, but the fact remains if they do try to advance in order to attack our southern positions, either our guns or the mountain company will intercept.
Well?Attack or no attack?
>>4321011Attack but only setup a perimeter around the city until the left flank falls, then move in with numbers.Also hold off on the boats until SPGs leave, then attack.
>>4321015this is good
>>4321011no attack, call for de-escalation talks.Next time we attack when we can sink half their navy or artillery and gain an upper hand. We should only attack if we can gain a proper initiative.
>>4321015>>4321023>>4321025>>4321027>>4321029Two rolls of 20Two rolls of 6Results, when I get up and make coffee next morning.
Rolled 16 (1d20)>>4321035
Rolled 15, 6 = 21 (2d20)>>4321035
Rolled 2 (1d6)>>4321035
Rolled 3 (1d6)>>4321035
I wake up and see that we have basically entered the war, very good gentlemen. Now is not the time to be wishy washy. Also, I have a question for >>4321035 , in the future, can we support a political faction/intervene in politics generally?
>>4321237I’d imagine that we’d only intervene in politics if we kept getting bad political rolls The gridlock would eventually get so bad we could justify a military coup (liked back by a foreign power).
>>4321454Yeah I'm not asking to intervene currently, but if the situation gets bad. The president is a wildcard, and the liberals are no better.
>>4321035What do you use to make your maps?
>>4321038>>4321039>>4321044>>4321067Our 1st and 2nd battalion recieve the order and start marching into the DMZ by 1500 hrs. Second bt. was "greeted" with several 76mm salvos upon moving in PRS territory, but they were from too far away and did not inflict any damage other than a slight reduction of morale.By the evening the Texans made two recon sorties and located the PRS artillery company, but by the the time our guns prepared a firing position, they had them relocated.The infantry units of both ours and their 2nd Batt. clashed briefly before sunset. The skirmish showed their DshK machine guns are indeed located there. Our 25pdr guns shelled them twice before we started receiving 76mm fire too.Both barrages were of average accuracy and inflicted light losses.As of midnight, skirmishing has stopped in that sector.Our first battalion managed to cover 30km from their starting position by midnight. They are rather exhausted but can execute a push together with 2nd Batt.Their movements are followed by the enemy armored car recon company that managed to take position on the hill north of them. No threatening moves were made from the enemy company, as they probably spotted the AT guns.The position of their 2nd Inf. Coy. and the SPG's is currently unknown, last available position is marked with lighter colors on the map.The same applies for the naval theater. Their Schnellboats are either in Everon or turned north. They were not spotted transporting troops through the Corazol bay.
The French have been notified, they promise that an airmobile company is assembling in Marseilles will land in 72 hours. No word was given on air support.Orders?>Assault their 2nd Battalion, we outnumber them 2to1 in the sectort. Specify if you want the assault to begin at nightime or wait for daylight.>Continiue maneuvering. Our 2nd Batt. should hold position and skirmish with the enemy, until our 1st. drives there recon Coy. out of the hills. The 1st Mountain Company should also cross the border to expand the front.>Write in...-----Need to mention that our 4th Coy. is also on the move but apparently I forgot to draw that.Both sides scored good rolls of 16 and 15 respectively, thus leading to no mistake being made. Roll of 2 was tactics selection for PRSRoll of 3 was French reaction.>>4321534Inkarnate.com, I work with the free assets since they are a bit jew-y with their pricing. But thats just for the default map. From there on I use the criminally underrated MS Paint.>>4321237Yes, an option would have been available to do so in the 1950 elections, but the president was winning in a landslide.
>>4321854> 2nd Batt continues to skirmish with the enemy. >Use 1st Batt and Mountain Company to find and destroy the armoured car companyWould it be possible for you to roll for the PRS? It sucks to get an epic roll then find out it was for the commies.
>>4321854>Assault their 2nd Battalion, we outnumber them 2to1 in the sectort.>at nightWe need to attack while the SPGs are still not here yet, but keep the AT guns facing the armored cars in case they attempt a flanking maneuver.Also move in with the boats towards the north to cutoff an attempt to retreat, and if they aren’t there head west.
>>4321867I agree mostly, but we should get at least 3 of the AT/HE guns on the main battle.
>>4321867>>4321876Support, give ourselves some type of explosive support
>>4321867>>4321876>>4321879>>4321889Two rolls of 20Two rolls of 6
Rolled 2 (1d20)>>4321893Cmon nat 20
Rolled 1 (1d20)>>4321893>>4321897Oh God oh fuck
Rolled 7 (1d20)>>4321893
Rolled 1 (1d6)>>4321893
>>4321900The commies have somehow rolled even shittier than us.
>>4321904It’s ok, the 1 was for their forces... right?
Rolled 6 (1d6)>>4321893
>>4321920Checking from last time it is. They somehow rolled worse than us. >>4321922God bless the French
>>4321897>>4321900>>4321902>>4321922The assault begins in 0300 hrs.Our units do not synchronize properly and it takes 1st Batt. An additional hour to move in. In the darkness our artillery spotters do not properly relay coordinates leading to useless expenditure of ammunition. But their artillery is facing the same difficulties as their shells are landing nowhere near us.The infantry combat stagnates at a distance of 300 meters. It becomes clear our squads outgun theirs, even though the NCO’s STEN guns are useless in such ranges, due to our units having 2xBREN guns as opposed to only a single DP in the enemy squads. In this specific sector though, this difference is nullified by the suppressing fire of their DshK guns.Our 6pdrs from 2nd Batt Are rolled in, but fail to score hits on the HMG nests in the dark. The enemy artillery also fails to properly zero in our positions in the subsequent barrages. At 0500 hrs the Texans are raised from the airfield so they can be above the battlefield to provide recon in 0700Our fleet has cautiously moved 30km to the north under the cover of the night, observing no enemy forces. Aldo the spotting range is relative short, thus they could be anywhere.Daybreak is near, what are the orders (time is 0600)?>They are not doing anything besides sitting there, continue the assault. (Can bring in the 3rd Company to assist from the south, requires explicit mentioning)>Shift the focus north with 2nd Battalion before they have time to properly react, move in with the mountain company too to cover their flank. First battalion should break off the attack and start digging in the former DMZ.>Break off the attack and have 2nd Battalion move in on the current position of 1st Battalion. While 1st itself moves north-west around their line. (Write in orders for other units)You avoided narrowly a suicide charge into HMG’s by beating their roll of 1 with a roll of 2. Neat.Roll of 1 was tactics selection for em … obviously nothing.While roll of 6 was for our naval forces, they did not sail into the enemy boats at knife fighting range, which would be bad… Not going to draw a map for this as the only change is out fleet is two hexes north.
If no write in for the navy orders, they will continiue moving south-west as some anon earlier wanted to
>>4321931>Shift the focus north with 2nd Battalion before they have time to properly react, move in with the mountain company too to cover their flank. First battalion should break off the attack and start digging in the former DMZLet first battalion attempt to shell them a bit more with the air recon support before they move out though.
>>4321931>They are not doing anything besides sitting there, continue the assault. (Can bring in the 3rd Company to assist from the south, requires explicit mentioning)Focus indirect fire on their HMGs, once they are gone we can overrun the zis guns. I’m wary to move in 3rd company because I don’t want them to get smacked by their battalion in the town.
>>4321931>They are not doing anything besides sitting there, continue the assault. (Can bring in the 3rd Company to assist from the south, requires explicit mentioning)This is a major portion of their forces. In the daylight we'll have the air recon advantage too. I don't think we should try to outmaneuver them since they have more vehicles.
>>4321955Yeah I trying to chase vehicles with infantry seems counter productive
>>4321931>They are not doing anything besides sitting there, continue the assault. (Can bring in the 3rd Company to assist from the south, requires explicit mentioningwith 3rd company as well, we are wining and should keep the heat on
>>4321939>>4321955>>4321982Assault will continue!Now figure it out if you want the 3rd company to join or not before the rolls.
>>4321989Join, they can back up 2nd battalion.
>>4321996>>4321999Why not? Overwhelming force is basically how you win battles.
>>4322007Ww already have overwhelming force and if 3rd joins, the battalion in the city is in a position to nail 3rd
>>4322015It's a battalion with light mortars. Taking out the commie artillery will be a good trade and then the city battalion will be out of position if they go after that company.
>>4322018Calling it a trade is assuming the company will contribute much to a fight that is as good as won. I’d rather not throw away the company.
>>4321989>>4322009I decide to change my vote to don’t join
>>4322029>>4321996>>4321999Third company, will NOT join.One roll of 6 to determine PRS tactics on landTwo rolls of 20 for combat.Naval tactics are already determined from previous roll.
Rolled 1 (1d6)>>4322033Let’s see what the commies do
Rolled 8, 13 = 21 (2d20)>>4322033
Rolled 17 (1d20)>>4322033
>>4322036>>4322038>>4322039Morning phaseWhen the air recon appears overhead and starts relaying coordinates, the barrage from our 25pdr guns continues. This results in more accurate suppressive barrage and our infantry begins to close the distance. Unfortunately their artillery has also zeroed in our path and unleashes an accurate barrage on our advancing units from 2nd Battalion which are forced to halt advancing again due to the heavy suppression from artillery and machine gun fire.Our artillery, with the help of air recon begins counter-battery fire which manages to force the enemy artillery to stop firing and relocate.The attempts of our 1st Battalion to break their line resume. Three 6pdr guns are rolled in as close as 500 meters under heavy suppression and begins firing directly at their machine gun nests. One DshK is knocked out for sure, following this the PRS first lines in this sector begin falling back to a secondary line 300 meters behind.Navy reports no enemy vessels in Everon, they are 5km off the coast. They can move in closer at full speed to recon, go south, or move in the bay of Corazol to look for the Schnellboats.The land combat situation is stagnating. First battalion has taken some ground but are exhausted and have taken light losses from the MG and rifle fire. Second battalion is in better condition physically, has also taken light losses, but are a bit demoralized from not being able to gain more ground (and from being pinned down).Roll two more 20’s for the noon combat, if you do not feel confident, you can break off the attack.
Rolled 6 (1d20)>>4322081Let’s go
Rolled 17 (1d20)>>4322081
>>4322081Have a recon plane scout the bay and have the boats recon
>>4322085>>4322088>>4322100Soon after our planes head back for refueling, the enemy artillery unleashes a barrage on our 1st Battalion shortly followed by an infantry counterattack. As not all squads of our unit were committed to the fight (to secure their rear from the recon company), they were overwhelmed and were forced to give up on the ground they took, falling back to their positions before the assault.The fighting was heavy as the PRS infantry assaulted swiftly, our lead squad was taken out in hand-to-hand fighting but not before they gunned down a whole squad of theirs. One of our 6pdr guns had its wheels damaged from the shelling and had to be abandoned. Few men were captured after they surrendered, not being able to retreat after marching all night and fighting all morning. The sum of the losses of 1st Battalion is 30 dead, 20 wounded and 10 captured. Enemy losses are believed to be as heavy.Second Battalion failed to gain ground, but together with our artillery managed to silence two MG nests. Long range firefights continued until our men got the news of 1st Battalion’s rout, and broke off the attack. Their unit’s casualties are 10 killed, 10 wounded.The planes arrive too late to correct a counter battery fire so they are redirected to the Corazol gulf. They spot no enemy naval units there and move to fly over Everon. They are shot at by small arms fire, but are high enough to avoid a hit. That suggests that their Infantry Company is still in there. After that, they return to the airfield.Our units that were engaged will need at least 12 hours to rest and ressuply before they can execute any action other than retreating.What are your orders?>Set up a defensive perimeter, rest, rearm and try again tomorrow. They can’t keep this up for long.>Call the mountain company in and together with the fresh squads from 1st Battalion and dislodge their recon company from that hill>Other, write in…The navy will continue patrolling between Dolores and Everon to deny them the area. They can be called back to the capital to escort merchant vessels entering port.
>>4322100We already dedicated the planes to Artillery observation.
>>4322119>Set up a defensive perimeter, rest, rearm and try again tomorrow. They can’t keep this up for long.Our rolls have not been good
>>4322119>Set up a defensive perimeter, rest, rearm and try again tomorrow. They can’t keep this up for long.We win in a battle of attrition with superior numbers. We had garbage rolls and still managed equal losses, and now they lost most (all?) of their HMGs. 1st Bt. isn’t able to move out even if we wanted to chase cars with infantry.Send our navy to secure shipping, it seems the schnellboats got away, that’s the main reason we have them anyways.
>>4322119>Set up a defensive perimeter, rest, rearm and try again tomorrow. They can’t keep this up for long.Damn, now they have 13 of our people. Our air recon is a big advantage though. Just need to be a little bit lucky to catch their arty
>>4322119Can we get a picture of where our units are located?
>>4322135Oh no I just realized that our company is the size of a platoon and our battalion is the size of a company. Maybe we should just do peace talks
>>4322135Yes, this is at midnight, additional intel bonus from an evening flyover is that the SPG's have taken position in the area. Our 4th company is almost at Ortego. If someone wants to propose something else (and he better draw it) than another attack, I will wait a bit before asking for rolls.
>>4322169So are theirs, this is intentional to make it easier and semi-authentic as small militaries (and sometimes massive one like the USSR in WW2) changed the well established size definitions.
>>4322175Oh, well our troops are still really spread out then. We have 100 guys "holding" a 40km area. (Companies 3 and 2)
>>4322119>Set up a defensive perimeter, rest, rearm and try again tomorrow. They can’t keep this up for long.
>>4322129>>4322131>>4322133>>4322221I am compelled by those digits!One roll of 6Two rolls of 20
Rolled 3 (1d6)>>4322225
Rolled 12 (1d20)>>4322225Come on, we must destroy the communists
Rolled 20 (1d20)>>4322225
>>4322245Why tho, is this the price of a good economy?
>>4322247Only God can save us now
>>4322245>O god o fuck.
The preparations begin in 0400 hrs, 1st Battalion advances slowly under the cover of the night, wheeling in two 6pdrs closer and closer. 2nd Battalion will wait until 0600 to begin the assault under the suppressive fire of the artillery when the air spotters have a clear view.In 0530 hrs 1st Batt. opens fire. The 6pdr guns fire at the muzzle flashes in the distance. Resistance is stiffer than expected. Soon after that artillery fire starts raining down on our men and the advance grinds down to a halt. When second battalion begins moving at daybreak the situation becomes clear. In the cover of darkness, the PRS has swapped the positions of their battalions and moved the SPG’s northeast of 1st Battalion. Instead of facing a beat up force, they are fighting a fresh unit.Although our barrage accuracy was good, it was not enough to shake the defenders out of their positions. With the cost of dozens killed our 2nd Battalion breaks through their first line, only to find themselves into pre-zeroed field of fire for their mortars. Our artillery gets approximate coordinates from our spotters to begin a barrage on their mortar company and manages to silence them as they relocate. Unfortunately an infantry counterattack hits our men, just like yesterday. Close fighting claims a lot of casualties, and our men and once again forced to fall back. First Battalion tries to hold the ground taken, but the SPG fire outside of the 6pdr effective range together with on foot skirmishers from the recon company north of them forces them to also retreat, before a counterattack has a chance to hit them.First Battalion suffers light losses compared to yesterday, 10 killed, 10 wounded. Their strength is at 140 capable men, 180 with the AT element.Second Battalion bore the brunt of today’s fighting, they lost 30 more men killed and 20 wonded. Strength is at 130, artillery company being unscratched. Enemy likely took slightly smaller losses.What are the general orders for the two battalions?>Dig in and don’t move. If they attack, we still have better equipped squads.>We’ll fucking do it again, rest and rearm. Tomorrow we continue the attacks! >Call a retreat, we need to reinforce the beat up units and maybe wait for the French.To give orders to companies, write them in, otherwise they stay there.
We do have weapons in our reserves, which I doubt the reds have much of.However, we have 4 fresh companies ready to go in our rear.>>4322379Is it possible for multiple companies to occupy the same tile? If it is, I say group up some combination of 2nd - 4th companies and send them in.
>>4322379>Call a retreat, we need to reinforce the beat up units and maybe wait for the French.I knew this offensive was a bad idea.>>4322392Easily. Each hex is 20km
>>4322396Anecdotal, we could have won the war in a single move if we didn't roll like shit
>>4322379>Dig in and don’t move. If they attack, we still have better equipped squads.Also>Move 3rd company into the same tile as Battalion 2 and have company 4 take their spot Once the French arrive we can resume operations. >>4322404This
>>4322379>relieve some troops on the frontline with our reserves and start making a layered defensive line and of course call in the french.
What's our strategic endgame here? All out unification war? Just just grab a few lands and city along the border? Or just border skirmish? Honestly I'd rather we try for a favorable peace deal right now after winning a little bit. Our economy is better in the long run and we can try again when we got tanks, planes and shit.
>>4322425The french are already coming>>4322421+1
>>4322421>>4322396>>4322392Except if a company is attached to a battalion, or a battalion to a regiment etc, no, they can not occupy the same time because reasons.Buut, you can: >Merge the 3 companies in an understrength battalion.>Just plop a company into a battalion to reinforce it with 50 men, but it disbands the company. Battalion later can plop it out in neighboring hex ... and yes, you can break up a whole battalion in 4 companies (5 if support is attached) given you got the space, this way you can execute delay maneuvers and whatnot.Oh and a hex is 15km >>4317413I have no fucking idea what I wrote here but all my calculations that I made up till now are based on having a 15km hex.
>>4322432>Just plop a company into a battalion to reinforce it with 50 men, but it disbands the company. The battalion needs fresh troops. If the commits attack we can pull the same trick they did.
Ok, vote again now that the things here >>4322432 are clear. >Dig in and don’t move. If they attack, we still have better equipped squads.>Call a retreat to our side of the former DMZ.
>>4322564>Dig in and don’t move. If they attack, we still have better equipped squads.
>>4322564>>Dig in and don’t move. If they attack, we still have better equipped squads.
>>4322567>>4322574>>4322580Two rolls of 6.One to determing PRS actions.The other to determine the international reaction, other than the French one.
>>4322590Oh and 3rd Company will reinforce the Battalion and not the 4th, since the latter is with French guns and we do not want to pull an accidental "Austria-Hungary pro gamer move" and supply them with the wrong ammo in the heat of the battle.
Rolled 3 (1d6)>>4322590
Rolled 2 (1d6)>>4322590
August 14th 1951The PRS forces do not launch a counter attack or any maneuvers from what we can gather from air recon. The only frontline activity was a morning barrage from the SU-76 battery at our 1st Batt. that achieved nothing other than a little panic.Our 3rd company moves in and reinforces our 2nd Battalion (the only map chance).International reactions are mixed, USA and UK argue that the conflict should be resolved peacefully and mention nothing about a UN intervention Korea style... looks like they can not multitask.The communists have already framed us as the aggressor, using their common rhetoric, and as usual we received condemnations from the USSR, GDR, PPR, CSSR, BPR, DPRK, PRC and whatever other communist alphabet soup state is out there.August 15th:>Pass.>Do something (write in)
>>4322652>Pass. Nothing more we can do until President Vincent sends his boys in
>>4322652>Do something (write in)Dig in, just in case. Make sure to keep flying recon/ surveillance. Do any bombardments on enemy positions that we can to keep them on their toes.
>>4322652Can we try to sneak the mountain company into their mountains?
>>4322680Digging in is by default don't worry, the biggest mistake someone can do in the army is telling his CO he is bored. The troops wont just stand there in the field holding their dicks.>bombard themanon, we have no bombs, even if we had, it would take a day of work at least in "Don Pedro's garage™" to fit them with DIY bomb racks as those are trainer planes.>>4322682Yes it is possible, but once there, what are they going to do and how do we bring them back if the PRS decides to park the SPG's and armored cars behind em?
>>4322691Wait, I have an idea ... roll a dice of 6.
>>4322691You know you can bombard with things other than bombs right? We have howitzers in range with spotter planes. We might as well see if we can't get lucky shots on their big guns.
>>4322652Let's just do daytime bombardment with air recon.
Rolled 4 (1d6)>>4322693
Rolled 5 (1d6)>>4322693I'm worried
>>4322694Oh man, you meant artillery, yeah, sure. That is my bad.>>4322700It is above 3, I will take it as a win. Give me a minute.
>>43227001800hrs August 14thThe men of 1st company still stationed in the capital, receive an order to pay a visit to the French mining facility and "borrow" some explosives. The T-6 "Texan" planes are immediately called back for "urgent maintenance". A batch of empty oil barrels is hastily rolled into the airfield from the docks...
>>4322700>>4322702<Manical laughter>>>4322716Those crazy bastards, I love it!
Roll a 20 to determine how Assad-ed the PRS is going to get 64 years in advance on 15th.
Rolled 17 (1d20)>>4322724
>>4322724I feel like we should really be bombing them in the middle of an offensive, not just willy nilly
>>4322727Wait, how much explosives can a oil barrel hold? 100? 250?
>>4322784about 150 litres, so about 150kgs maybe assuming 2 per Texan and three Texans that's almost 1000kgs of explosives.
>>4322784I don't know but the SU-76 is open topped
Manifesting the GOAT
Low effort meme
Uh oh, I had to do ... the thing, but you know when you fall down a Youtube rabbit hole in 3 AM?Yes, we continue next time around in the usual afternoon for Europe/morning for burgerbros because I am tired.
August 15thFollowing a night of work, two Texans were modified with a center pylon to fit a single barrel filled with mining explosives. This was made so the first, unarmed plane can fly ahead of the formation, scout for a target and drop an illumination flare (that we also nicked form the French) over the target. As with the increased weight, the operational range drops and the bomb equipped planes will not have much time to loiter over the frontline.Despite criticism stating that the pilots are too inexperienced, the mission commences in the early morning. The lead plane reaches the border area and locates the SU-76 battery. Things work a planned and a flare is dropped to mark their position as soon as the ordinance carrying planes arrive.The pilots were indeed inexperienced, the first one drops from a too high altitude, and misses by nearly 50 meters. To top it off the detonator was apparently not placed correctly and there was no explosion. The second pilot on the other hand, drops more accurately, does not score a direct hit, but the charge lands few meters behind one of the SU-76 mobile guns…The explosion was strong enough to mangle the thin metal sheet in the back designed to stop small arms and shrapnel to enter the fighting compartment. The vehicle slightly tips forward and explodes due to an ammunition cook off. The explosion is heard many kilometers away and boosts the morale of our men. You have no medals for this occasion to give out to the pilot who did that, but you are damn well sure you will need to issue some.
>>4322842do it again Bomber Harris
In the evening, four C-47 transport planes land on our airfield. The French airmobile company has arrived. They are equipped with modern semi-auto MAS-49 rifles, MAT-49 submachine guns and the FM24 machine guns we also have in service.Roll a dice of 6 to determine how willing the French are to commit instantly to the fightingRoll another 6 for international reactions.Roll another 6 for PRS military action.Roll a 20 for the August 16th morning air strike
Rolled 1 (1d6)>>4323530
Rolled 5 (1d6)>>4323530>>4323537Well... at least they’re here
Rolled 6 (1d6)>>4323530
>>4323542At least it's just insantly, we can convince them later...I hope
Rolled 8 (1d20)>>4323530This ain't looking good
August 16thThe French do not seem to even contemplate going near the front at this stage. They take position near the airfield and are “awaiting orders” from France, sounds like an excuse to do nothing to us…The international situation is getting more complicated. The British have notified us that they are shadowing a small transport fleet with a small military escort that departed from East Germany yesterday. They are clearly headed for the Atlantic and it is possible that they are headed Sahrani’s way. They promised to relay more information tomorrow.The PRS on the other hand looks to be preparing something, 1st battalion reports unusual signs of movement during the night. Forward observer squads report engine noises to the north and northwest of them, could this be a sign of a preparation for an attack?The morning flyover confirms the suspicions, their unit positions have switched and the SU-76 are no longer on their positions they were yesterday. After 15 minutes of flying low at 200 meters, the battery is located, the flare dropped, and the two bomb armed planes head that way.The pilots were in for a surprise, when commencing the attack run, a stream of tracers heads their way. First pilot panics and drops early, missing the target, while the other continues flying straight determined to bomb them. His wing is torn in half few seconds later and the plane enters a flat spin he can not recover from. Upon hitting the ground, the explosives detonate and destroy what was left from the aircraft.Minutes after this a barrage opens up on our 1st Battalion from north and south, and their infantry starts to move in…Two rolls of 20, their counter attack is due.
Rolled 18 (1d20)>>4323584
Rolled 9 (1d20)>>4323578
>>4323589>>4323590The initial barrage was accurate, they had the distance figured out in the first round of fighting. Their battalions apparently switched again to provide artillery fire together with the SU-76 guns.The bigger surprise was the appearance of their 1st Company which, bar the French that arrived yesterday, is the best armed unit on the island. They, together with elements of their infantry battalion began advancing and initially gained some ground. This only encouraged them to speed up the assault, baiting them into some pre-drawn overlapping fields of fire positions. Their shelling continued, but our 25pdrs from the Battalion south also began providing support, aldo being inaccurate, it did influence their morale.Two hours of fighting later, the PRS assault has grinded to a halt. They were forced to take the positions of our former first line of defence, unable to move forward due to the concentration of machine guns and 6pdr guns.Casualties are still not counted as sporadic firefights still break out as they have not withdrawn to their starting positions but it is worthy to presume they lost at least 50% more than us. At least one of our squads was wiped out (10 men at the first line), there are more wounded and killed, but the unit is holding together!Orders?>Slowly but surely, start moving back, the battalion might not be able to hold off another thrust. We can effectively retreat now when we are not under too much fire.>Don’t, fucking, move! If they come at us again, so be it!>Execute a small counter attack to clear out the sector and end their attack.>Order our 2nd Battalion to attack from the south to relieve the pressure on 1st Battalion and shift the enemy forces’s focus.---GG anons, we reinvented world war one on this island
>>4323604>Execute a small counter attack to clear out the sector and end their attack.Seems like they're weakened. Should be able to chase them out.
>>4323604>Order our 2nd Battalion to attack from the south to relieve the pressure on 1st Battalion and shift the enemy forces’ focus.Can we move up all the companies we have to reinforce 1st Batt. like the 1st. company in the Capital and the mountain troops.
>>4323612Yes, but later. Currently no unit can make it in time to the battlefield to do so as these orders are for the noon phase.The mountain unit also sports french weaponry so dont merge with the british weaponry ortherwise shit happens.
>>4323604>Order our 2nd Battalion to attack from the south to relieve the pressure on 1st Battalion and shift the enemy forces’s focus.Move 4th one tile to the northeast to be in a better position to advance if necessary.Abd yeah, when the only options for armor are expensive and light, at guns are prevalent, there is a lack of viable air support, and there isn’t much room to maneuver, it’s gonna devolve into infantry pushes and arty fights.
>>4323604>>Order our 2nd Battalion to attack from the south to relieve the pressure on 1st Battalion and shift the enemy forces’s focus.
>>4323515Potential design for the Sahrani Aviator's Cross for that based pilot
>>4323612>>4323616>>4323617Two rolls of 20!>>4323624Neat
Rolled 6 (1d20)>>4323636
Rolled 3 (1d20)>>4323636
>>4323637>>4323640Guess 2nd. Batt also takes a bruising.
>>4323650Oh that post, don't worry about that post we pic related
>>4323650Someone rolled and deleted.
Our unit receives the order for a counterattack, but due to the artillery providing support in the morning they are low on shells, awaiting a delivery so no barrage is launched to suppress the front units.This leads to higher losses in the first attack, at least two of our squads are shattered but the push resumes. Their artillery seems is suffering from similar problems and does not provide support.An hour later their first line is breached, and under the threat of the enemy battalion being routed, they begin relocating the squads engaged in combat against our 1st Battalion. One of their squads tries to flank our forces and attack from the side but it completely destroyed by machine gun fire.Combat to the north has ceased, both artillery units are still without ammo at 1400 hours and gunfights continue at the southern sector. The CO of the 2nd Battalion is unsure on how to proceed and radios back for orders…>Press on, their line is unstable enough.>Call off the push, the operational task to break their attack has been completed.(1st Battalion is effectively unable to commit to offensive operations for the rest of the day)
>>4323714>Press on, their line is unstable enough.Push while we are doing good. We want to lessen the pressure that 1st battalion has right now.
>>4323714>Press on, their line is unstable enough.
>>4323720>>4323743>>4323745Well, at least the arty will get involved...Two rolls of 20 to end this cursed day.
Rolled 4 (1d20)>>4323754
Rolled 2 (1d20)>>4323754
>>4323756>>4323758The attacks continue with renewed vigor. Our artillery is finally able to provide support, but they are shelling a new area and accuracy is reduced.Our better armed squads manage to secure a kilometer of ground before running out of supplies due to all day of prolonged suppressive fire. They had gotten to the point where they used their PIAT launchers as short range mortars and picking up commie machineguns left on the battlefield just so they can continue the stream of lead at their direction.By the time sufficient number of BREN magazines arrived, darkness was descending and they halted the advance.Our 1st Battalion is reduced to 110 men (from 140) at condition to fight. Their AT element did not lose any guns or suffer manpower losses despite the heavy barrages.The 2nd Battalion after half a day of slugging forward with red hot BREN barrels, numbers 160 men at fighting condition (from 180).Enemy is believed to have taken a bigger amount of losses, considering their shattered attack before noon, but they may still do their usual trick and swap the battalions during the night.The surviving men of 1st Battalion are now considered “Experienced” as about everyone was already involved in at least two days of fighting.Orders for the night/morning of 17th?>We are not letting them take a breather, go for a night attack. The planes will drop illumination flares on their positions.>Sit tight, apparently no matter how hard both sides try, no one can break the line at this stage.Roll two dices of 6, one for British intelligence report, second one for the French to move their asses up north.
Rolled 2 (1d6)>>4323819>We are not letting them take a breather, go for a night attack. The planes will drop illumination flares on their positions.
>>4323819>>We are not letting them take a breather, go for a night attack. The planes will drop illumination flares on their positions.
Rolled 1 (1d6)>>4323825Imagine not knowing how to roll
>>4323819Any idea on their ammo situation for their small arms and infantry?
>>4323833Small arms and artillery*>>4323831French doing a great job dispelling the stereotype
>>4323823>>4323825>>4323831>>4323833>>432383417th of AugustSecond Battalion has been given 8 hours of downtime before an attack is scheduled to begin in 0300 hrs. Ammo for the British small arms is still looking good, the HE shells for the 6pdrs are looking good too, but the 25pdr shells have dropped to “Limited”. We have probably a week worth of shells in case the intensity of fighting remains the same. The British relay that the ships are still on course for the ocean but have no other decrypted information about their intent. French radars on the other hand have tracked very suspicious Polish and Bulgarian civil airliners that operate very suspiciously opened commercial flights to Brazil … two days ago … that stop in Bagango on their way.We all know what is going on here, but as of now they continue to operate while the European authorities gather proof to shut their access to civilian airports down.Despite the heavy fighting, the French are still reluctant to send their men up north. Probably due to worrying about political fallout if they cross the border. We have no other choice but to let them go with their domestic smear campaign against the PRS until the company can be included in the fighting without many questions asked.Two rolls of 20!
Rolled 13 (1d20)>>4323866
Rolled 14 (1d20)>>4323866
>>4323868>>43238752nd Battalion be like
>>4323866I was asking about the opposition's ammunition, but that update is nice as well.
>>4323868>>43238750300hrsThe attack begins as planned, the two remaining operational planes drop illumination flares without incident or revealing our infantry’s position. Their positions are hit with artillery, another infrantry push begins. Initially going well, we fall into the same trap we laid for them yesterday. Some squads finding themselves in a overlapping MG fire plus being bombarded by light mortars … which suggests that the PRS did indeed swap out battalions again.The CO realizes what is going on and calls off the attack at 0700 frustrated he has to do the same shit for three consecutive days now with no visible effect other than the rapid decline of his men. While he did act on his own without orders from the central command, his actions lead to only 10 men being lost from the unit.The PRS does not launch a counterattack in the morning phase.>Reprimand the officer for acting on his own.>Commend his assessment of the situation and the courage to act according to the situation.>Ignore his actions
>>4323899>Commend his assessment of the situation and the courage to act according to the situation.
>>4323899>Commend his assessment of the situation and the courage to act according to the situation.I say to break the stalemate it may be about time to bring up the reserve companies. We can have 2nd and 4th do a sneak attack during the night on the city, and if they've been taking heavy losses, they may not even have much of a numbers advantage. Also, maybe our 1st mountain company can sneak up on the armored cars during the night and destroy them at close range.
>>4323935>>4323920>>4323911>>4323908Word gets to the president about the commanding officer of the 2nd Battalion after your commendation and is quick to make it a talking point in his now regular “shittalking communism” session. In his noon speech for the media he emphasizes the freedom we have and “how that man’s actions represent the pillars we stand on in our fight against the shackles of communism”.Following his fiery speech, he meets with you sharing the CO’s sentiments and forbids you to launch new attacks until you think up of something different. Your protest that this goes against “what we stand for” in his recent words … is met with a stern look and passive aggressive remarks about how your current actions are going to cost him the election, and your budget. In the end he clearly states that if you do not have a plan of action after 2 days that makes sense and will provide results soon enough after implementing, he will be forced to pursue a cease fire to prevent a massive escalation while the Korean conflict is still ongoing.
>>4323972Awwww but president san we want to continue our full frontal assaults!All right anons what is the plan here? Should we start telling the French to stop being lazy fucks?
>>4323976Ship things? and French do stuff
>>4323972We put 4th company on boats and land them at Everon. We use that to divert their forces from the front, and push and take the closest town to the border.
>>4323985Let's sneak the mountain company behind enemy lines as well, waiting for the right time to capture those 76's or take the armored cars; we could also use them in the mountains/hills to the north to disrupt supply and further distract.
>>4323972>>4323972What are the odds we can take Corzol if we bring in the mountaineers and reenforce the battalions? And ideas? Maybe the French will actually be useful.
>>4323995I think the mountaineers are better off trying to blow up their vehicles in a night raid. We also might be able to stage an attack on the city with 2nd, 4th, and maybe the french as well.
>>4323972Imagine cutting the military budget in the middle of a civil war
>>4324004Realistically we would just be fired, so the budget is reasonable.
August 17th 1800hrsAs the efforts on drawing up a plan of actions continue, the British intelligence report is due on the status of the suspicious flotilla.Roll a 6, continue proposing plans of action, in the end I will stylize them and put them up for vote on which one gets presented.
Rolled 4 (1d6)>>4324023
Rolled 5 (1d6)>>4324023don't fail us British, you have helped more than the French thus far
Fug, forgot the second roll of 6 for PRS actions.
>>4324023I say we go over to the French forces and tell them to get off their asses
>>4324001Honestly I think the Everon landing idea is a better use for those companies. Either we roll the dice to get French support at Corazol or we roll the dice participating in the meat grinder again.Either way I think our only option that isn't rolling dice is to send the mountaineers behind enemy lines and to send 4th Company alone to Everon, 3rd needs to stay as reserve at Corazol. imo rolling dice is going to lead to our best option and we can't just wait around for the East Germans to show up. So which gamble is better? I'd say let's at least start with the French.
>>4324034perhaps we can send some forces over to the north and capture Mararedo, nobody seems to be there
>>4324034Why is an amphibious operation with equal numbers of troops a better option than attacking a weakened and exhausted foe with fresh troops? Causing mayhem with the mountaineers behind their lines might be good long term for their supplies, but isn't as press worthy (what the prez seems to want) as blowing up vehicles imo.
In the evening, the British provide us with a confirmation that the soviet transport fleet currently located in the English Channel is indeed headed for Sahrani. The three cargo ships, officially carrying “humanitarian aid” can be fitted with enough hardware to arm several battalions, maybe a whole regiment, and still have space left for ammunition and some vehicles. It is expected to arrive on the 22nd of August if they keep up their speed. This has prompted the British to react and mobilize a Royal Marine company from Gibraltar that can be expected on the 20th. Said intelligence report was relayed to the French. That rapidly changed their mind … or it was the news the British are coming so they are obliged to continue their dick measuring contest they have going on since 1914…No rolls required, will compile the offers in an hour and post em.
And yes, the French would very likely agree to participate in a operation now.
>>4324037That sounds smarter for the troops' sake, but it greater risks the convoy being intercepted by the PRS's boats.>>4324043You've got a point. But I don't know how I feel about sending militia-level companies against a battalion in urban terrain, despite how exhausted they are. With French support, yours would probably be the better plan. I'm just thinking of ways to disrupt the front. And the Mountaineers would be better used in the short term by attacking those armored cars, but if they can pull that off they can just as easily go from there to attack supply lines. I'm just thinking about when we tried to send 1st Battalion way around to behind Corazol and got stuck halfway there, by the time we get the Mountaineers to the desired position for either use, the strategic situation might have changed, I'm just voiced support for sending them to that position for now.>>4324050Given this, the assault on the city with those companies is a better idea. However, if we can't fit all those units on two tiles, I think sending either one or both companies on a boat mission could still be useful. We don't actually have to attack Everon with the force, just their position would be threatening enough to cause enemy relocation.
>>4324056We still have the option of forming a mini-batallion, we could do that with our companies on one tile and the french forces on another and attack the city like that.
>>4324049Are the russian transports being escorted? Maybe we could interdict them, or otherwise blockade ships from coming in to PRS.
>>4324072Challenging the Soviet Union is the most suicidal thing we could do.
>>4324063Great. This all depends on whether we can get the French here and ready to attack in 2 days. It also depends on whether those mountaineers can destroy or route either the cars or the SPG's; without such an attack, a city assault does not become politically viable. And if the assault on the city fails, it will certainly mean peace talks. If the assault lasts sufficiently long enough, and we make enough gains to politically allow for the offensive to continue, I think those Royal Marines could take the place of our companies in the hypothetical landing. I still think such a maneuver is very worthwhile, especially if we can catch any units retreating from a hypothetically fallen Corazol.
>>4324091That’s a lot of hypotheticals Either way we need to start getting more wins before that shipment arrives
>>4324116To many if''s, our supply is screwed up. I think our best bet is to cut losses and fall back to the border. our army is too defensive and the air advantage is gone now.
Option #1WARPLAN: GREENOperation consists of focusing on eliminating the PRS auxiliary units such as recon, artillery and shock companies, or at least displacing them to gain ground. In case of successful initial execution, the French unit will paradrop (triangle marking) and attempt to cut off retreat paths and supply to battalions in Corazol. The reserve companies will move forward and skirmish the superiour force to discourage flanking maneuvers from their side.
>>4324116Pointing out the hypotheticals was what I was doing, but in any case any plan is going to rely on 'ifs'. At the end of the day, I think it is the most reliable gamble, and in this system all combat is a gamble. And more than that, I was walking through what would happen, linearly. If the first step in the plan doesn't work, the rest won't happen.
Option #2WARPLAN: YELLOWPlan consists of executing a retreat with the clear purpose of baiting them out their pre-made defensive positions. After they move in to secure the ground taken, they will have bad artillery zeroing for the first few hours, no foxholes or fortified MG nests. First and Second battalions will be the main forces doing the counterattack, with 2nd and 4th Companies securing the flank and in the same time our mtn. unit can begin flanking. In the heat of battle, the French will paradrop behind their lines in attempt to seize Hill 135 where the SPG's are.
>>4324175fml forgot pic, one more option is available, so wait it out
Option #3WARPLAN: BLUEFourth company will be ferried across the bay to interdict supply. An hour or two after that, the 2nd Battalion will assume 1st's position, which in turn will advance north-east to overwhelm their shock company. The mountaineers will move in to keep their recon busy or drive them back.The French will paradrop behind their lines with the intent of assisting 4th Company north of Everon. The 4th is chosen to work with the french as their guns are the same and supplying them by sea will be easier.This plan will leave the enemy pocketed in 3 if everything works out right.
>>4324163I’m gonna vote for this one>>4324165I agree with every plan will have hypotheticals but their was just too many of them in that one. Less ifs=better plan
Vote:>GREEN>YELLOW>BLUEIf you got additional instructions, lets hear them.
>>4324163Supporting. Let's take the city closest to the border and dig in
Aight frens, vote n' all. I am taking the evening off. Being doing this for three days straight, dont want to burn out.Off to practice the national sport of Finland known as kalsarikännit ... even tho im nowhere close to being from binland.Gonna make a new thread tomorrow when we continue.
Im hungover as shit, gimme some more time.
>>4325521Here you go lads, managed to pull my shit together today.