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Could you test the site, please?
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>>2583642
>>2583646
perhaps hiro changed the servers to prevent that
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>>2583516
hiro is not the creator of the site, you are clearly a newfag spreading FUD, keep your opinions to yourself
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>>2579226
It honestly looks like absolute shit. Please, please do not fucking do this. You will lose so many people.
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>>2583650
soooo is he the one who posts traps on gif?
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>>2583656
I meant manager retard, obvious lapsus mentis
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>>2583661
Didn't they tell you not to leak that?
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>>2583655
That's nice to know, curiously it looks just like a pass icon, would we be able to tell the difference if he posted as anonymous with it?
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>>2583663
Oh my god, are you serious?
You LITERALLY said that hiro is the creator of the site you are on now.

You should look up what the word "obvious"means if english isn't your first language.
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>>2583661
what part of moot#faggot do you not understand?
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>>2583679
Yes, that's literally what a lapsus consists of. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapsus
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Any plans to make p4 Free Software?
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>>2583702
open source would be better
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>>2583671
If you were to hover over it, it would probably say something unique.
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>>2583707
>>2583711
Canadian criminal code
241 (1) Everyone is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term of not more than 14 years who, whether suicide ensues or not,

(a) counsels a person to die by suicide.

Were you aware of this?
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>>2583699
So when you say you didn't say something you literally said it's a lapsus, when hiro denies implying something it becomes a "contradiction" because it doesn't fit your interpretation of what he actually said. He must first agree to implied what you want him to imply so you can accuse him of saying what you want him to say.

This is a serious thread about the very future of the site, no place to exhibit your empty eristic techniques.

>It is characteristic of the eristic to think of some arguments as a way of defeating the other side, by showing that an opponent must assent to the negation of what he initially took himself to believe.
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>>2579814
>moving the goalposts to infinity.
Fact is, anonigs are the biggest spergs on this site.
It's only ever them that freak out and derail entire threads simply because they saw a name or a trip.
Meanwhile basically none of that happened on the other side from name or trip users.
Not in 2003, not in 2013, not now.

Names and trips MADE THIS SITE what it is.
This website spawned out of 3 identity based communities, two of the forums and one IRC.
Fuck right off with your "nonumis discusshuns" bullshit. This site was never designed for that purpose. Anonymous has only ever meant lack of user accounts.
It's literally guest-posting only.
Fuck shii / menchi. Fucking literal weeb.
Even 2ch and 2chan don't like Anonymous Discussion. Both sites have forced IDs! (admittedly one is only 3 IP octets, but still more than this shithole)
Forced IDs on this site would make me cry tears of laughter seeing you sperglord cunts getting turbo-triggered to death.
Maybe hotwheels will accept you back.
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>>2583489
Can't see replies yet, and can't access unlisted boards such as /qa/
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>>2583732
Than why don't you have a name then, friend?
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>>2583732
>Maybe hotwheels will accept you back.
Hotdud was forced to step down from 8gag around 3 years ago after the site was acquired by Hiro's old friend and Infinity Next was failure.
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>>2583516
>he is implying that there is a chance that p4 and paywalls will take over 4chan as we know it.
No, all he said was
>Internet would change in the future
Which implies that neither he nor anyone else can predict how the internet will change in the future so to say things like forever would simply be a lie.
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Hiro please respond to me
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>>2583749
Stop eating those doughnuts, they're very high in carbohydrates and you'll get fat.
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>>2583749
It's useless m8. He just wants to exploit us here, not have any kind of fun with the community.
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>>2583733
but /qa/ is still listed
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>>2583733
>unlisted boards such as /qa/
anon...
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>>2583764
Having "fun" with people who get upset when they're told to stop pooping on the floor, is a bad idea.
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>>2583773
Hiro still wouldn't care to interact with the community even if there weren't shitposters.
If anything he has the authority to do actually something about it, but only cares about the userbase in so far as he can nickel and dime us.
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>>2583732
you need to go back
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I love my king
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>>2583769
>>2583771
Sorry, I thought he unlisted it finally
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>>2579226
fuck off
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>>2583776
Newfag, when moot sided with shii and decided to force anonymous on /b/, it disrupted much of boards dynamic because they're were a good number of tripfags/and namefags (although trip-cracking was somewhat common), because 4chan wasn't about anonymity as much it was the having the choice of forgoing it.
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>>2582569
An imageboard is a type of Forum, you mongoloid.
A forum is literally a collection of people communicating via posts.
Comments on videos are a subtype of forum.
Stop trying to redefine commonly held definitions, you fucking snowflake.
Imageboards are nothing special and super unique.

>>2583735
Why would I?
There is no need to.
I'm just saying the cunts that whine over IDs of any kind are the biggest insufferable motherfuckers on this site.
They ruin every thread they go in.
I've used about 20 odd names and trips from 2004, none of them related.
Only 3 of them have been for full-on shitposting. (one of them last year, the rest pre-2010)

>>2583739
>hotwheels failed.
My, how surprised I am.
Pic related.

>>2583776
Go back to where?
Reddit?
I was part of this community before 4chan even existed. You go back to your shit site, immigrant.
I'm the founding population.

Forced IDs would absolutely obliterate you shitcunts because you don't know how to troll with identity and actually do it well.
Your version of EPIC TROLLS is posting blatant flamebait and everyone replying with "bait37.avi" a million times.
SIMPLY ERIC
Na, fuck off cunt.
Come back when you can go a hundred posts defending topics you have no interest in and merely googled as-and-when sub-topics came up.
You fags have zero momentum.
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>>2583491
Bring back visible sage.
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>>2579226
2 nukes really were not enough.
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>>2583798
>My, how surprised I am.
As much as I wanted 8gag to succeed in being its own things so the English imageboard community would be more decentralized, it became apparent by early 2015 that 8 was following the major beats of 7chan's history.

>I'm just saying the cunts that whine over IDs of any kind are the biggest insufferable motherfuckers on this site.
I'm reminded of when /v/ was whining about the occasional tripfag here and there, to the point it was derailing threads more often than any potential attention whore.
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>>2583717
I'm pretty sure he wasn't, otherwise he wouldn't have done it 2583092 times a day.
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All the phoneposter assmad in here is delicious.
DELICIOUS.
YESSSS. YESSSS.
Keep it up Hiro. Proud of you.

>>2583809
Yeah, I never expected much of hotwheels or the mass exodus.
The majority of it was heavily 7chan-like to the point of hilarity.
Whining people up over it was too funny.
I made many many images to rile /pol/ up.
It was too good.

Also, I'm going to say it!
Lanc-
Fuck the shitposting around him was priceless.
Even back in the early days we still hated attentionwhores.
But 90% of name and trip users were just retards posting normally. (retarded)
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>>2583819
>Yeah, I never expected much of hotwheels or the mass exodus.
its a shame though, I liked some of the small/medium sized boards there, they could be rather comfy communities at times.

Sometimes I wonder what would have happened if 7chan/8ch got a decently sized userbases, but otherwise had their most frequented boards not be parallels to existing ones on 4chan.
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>>2583798
>Go back to where?
>Reddit?
>I was part of this community before 4chan even existed.
I'm sure you've had over 9,000 confirmed kills too.
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>>2583824
So were you aware? That's another fourteen years right there. Please stop breaking Canadian law.
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>>2580962
CIA psyops has been a complete success and given birth to a generation of self-autoritharian idiots that engange in the worship of corporate control and censorship for its own sake.
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>>2583733
It'll be fixed soon. Thanks.
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>>2583856
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>>2583856
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>>2582569
lol idoit
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>>2583856
Okay! Thanks again for the p4 site. People can hate all they want, but its pretty nice.
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>>2583819
Unironically kill yourself, its a trademark for newfags to think /pol/ is the only thing ruining this site.
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>>2583914
/pol/ used to be good. Used to be.
It's not now. More than likely because of people like you, given the way your post is.
I can recognize you fucks a mile away.
I bet you seriously came here thinking this was a super secret anonymous hacker site. lmao
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>>2583856
Logins will kill this site. It is an ANONYMOUS imageboard. If you create user accounts it will just become plebbit. Don't do it, Hiro. Please don't kill 4chan.
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>>2583932
?
Users can still be anonymous to other users with user accounts. As they are.
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>>2583856
You retarded ass jewish chink faggot, stop with this blatant cashgrab nonsense. 4chan will never be profitable, stop trying to ultra giga jew everyone for ad money. You make enough already faggot. Deal with it.
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>>2583943
it actually turn a small profit for some years, you are obviously new to the site if you ignore this
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>>2583932
>implying invisible logins make this plebbit
Nobody sees the login. Nobody.
If you think your anonymous postings are actually anonymous, you're a fucking retard.
If you think a login behind-the-scenes will change that, you're an even bigger idiot.
If an intelligence agency wanted to find you, they could. Period.
They have the power, manpower and unlimited funds to send a fucking army after you if they want.
No amount of "lol behind 7 proxies" will save you.
They'll just send some junkie to come slice you open for pennies.

>>2583943
Actually there is a way he could make this site profitable.
It'd involve kicking up the majority of the site and only leaving behind the ones that are too dumb to leave.
AKA what he is doing now.
Just because you are retarded doesn't mean he is.
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>>2583943
>4chan will never be profitable
Remove edgelords and trashy/horny people, become eligible (worksafe) for advertising, and become a better place for the discussion of topics. Everybody wins if we follow the plan.
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I'll test my laser site when I'm shooting your family
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>>2583942
No you fucking retard. If you get banned here you can simply reset your modem and get another ip, if you get banned on your account with the pass linked you arel literally fucked and your money are gone and done stupid nigger
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>>2584031
And why is that a problem? What kind of retard buys a pass to shitpost? Perhaps you did or plan to when your mom give you her credit card
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>>2584034
>What kind of retard buys a pass to shitpost?
what else you wanna do on fucking 4chan, mate?
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>>2584031
Yeah, that's the fucking point, fucktard. You were never meant to be anonymous from moderation or authorities; that's not the point of 4chan. That's why there are rules; there is an intended use for the website, so the dumb shit you do that leads you to evading is outside of that, outside of how the owner wants you using their website. Maybe he's beginning to realize that the intended use for the website isn't enforceable without making changes.
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>>2583596
now this is redpill
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>>2584038
Whatever I do I don't need a pass to do it, this not a problem for anyone but you and a handful of like-minded morons, don't expect sympathy
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>>2584038
Lots of stuff.
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>>2583596
>>2584043
more like your personal head-canon
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>>2583947
people like you are what made this plebbit
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>Login/Register
>looks like complete fucking shit
this better be a fucking joke
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>>2584056
it isnt because its true
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>>2579237
So you can sue in court every "anonymous" who told you to die? Nigger faggot. Kill yourself.
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>>2583856
Don't use a flat UI. It looks nothing like 4chan.
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>>2584069
>frogposting
this better be a fucking joke
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>>2579226
Please make this mandatory for phoneposters
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>>2584129
shut the fuck up normalfag, get off my board
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Fuck this shit. I'm not signing into anything.
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>>2583396It seems to be fixed now. Before I was getting an error whenever I entered the token/pin.
But now it worked and I get this error when I try and post with my pass on the desktop site
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>>2579226
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HIRO DO YOU PLAN TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE FUCKING MOBILE BAN EVADERS?
IS THIS YOUR PLAN/FIRST STEP TO TEST THE WATERS? I'M FUCKING SICK OF SHITPOSTERS GETTING AWAY WITH ZERO CONSEQUENCES AND WITH ZERO EFFORT AT THE SAME TIME
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>>2584357
Hiro could do all sorts of things to get rid of garbage posters, and this change is on the right track, but a lot needs to change. Look at what sticks around on the digital media boards. Nobody with an ounce of professional experience would advertise on a website with the current /a/, /v/, /vg/, /jp/, and /tv/.
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>>2584376
Because that's why people (used to) come to 4chan, to be somewhere advertisers trying to sell shit to your mom would feel comfortable.

Seriously fucking kys.
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>>2584410
I'm just a guy who's sick to death of people using things he likes, to shitpost and troll. I'd happily take a few Walmart ads over YouTube and social media garbage and drama any day of the week. I guess we're different because I actually care about something other than attention.
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>>2584417
You must consume a lot of onions products.
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>>2584417
You think fucking advertisements is the solution to shitposting? This is a real position you're taking and defending?
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>>2584433
Yes
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>>2584433
I'm saying advertisements are going to happen if the website can become decent. Nobody wants to advertise on a website with boards like /v/ or /a/ right now, and for good reason. Hiro is trying to make it so he can clean up the content on the website, and sell advertising space. It just so happens that the type of content that would get scrubbed to make the website eligible for advertising, is the kind that makes the website worse for people who aren't looking for stupidity and/or drama. In light of this, I'm on Hiro's side. If he kills the website, he kills his income opportunities.
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>logins

He knows that everybody is just going to abandon the site if he does this, right? I'll go to 8ch if I ever have to log in to 4chan.
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>>2584450
Holy Christ you are fucking dumb.
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>>2584450
I'm impressed you can form a complete sentence with that many chromosomes.
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Anyway, it has become clear to me that 4chan needs to test Hiro. This site's userbase needs to remind him who holds the dildo in the relationship. I hope and pray for another 4chan-related happening like Gamergate or the Fappening. Something that breaks Hiro's spirit, like those two incidents broke Moot's spirit. I'm tired of this disgusting nuke dodger thinking he can control this site.
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>>2584450
>Nobody wants to advertise on a website with boards like /v/ or /a/ right now
The fuck are you talking about? /tv/ with its blacked spam and cp would be the issue.
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>>2582969
Reddit is made up of adults that can behave.
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>>2584472
What the fuck does Hiro even think he's doing, trying to make 4chan mainstream? All it will take is some edgy Reddit kid feeling annoyed and choosing to gorespam a board for every single advertiser to flee the site. Has the fucking 4channel thing even resulted in profits? Is Hiro losing money the 4channel thing? I bet he is. It's foolish to try and earn money off of this site.
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>>2584488
When m00t left, the site was solidly breaking even. hiro is just trying to squeeze money out of his "investment".
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>>2584494
Hiro is choking the goose to death. He'll be the death of this site.
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>>2584472
I'm saytng a board that mocks and literally masturbates to it's topic, is not a professional environment, and it's even worse when the rules that are in effect on that board, are also there to stop that behavior. The website as it is, is poorly managed, and it would be embarrassing to get caught doing business with it.

>>2584487
I think it's more a case of people coming to this website to be retarded and post trash, because they can more easily get away with it here.

>>2584488
What makes you think such a well-known website isn't mainstream?

>>2584494
Nobody really wants to advertise here anymore. Why is that? What happened in the last 5 years that could have caused this?
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>>2581349
>just make the OP unable to bump his own thread.
that's been the case for a while though
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>>2584496
Fuck profit. Kill all capitalists.
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>>2584496
>What happened in the last 5 years
I want to say it was just adblocking reaching critical mass. I know when Jlist stopped advertising here they said it was because they just weren't seeing anyone clicking through and buying things.
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>>2584502
Fuck the state. Kill all socialists
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>>2584502
Yes, comrade. Glorious socialist and communist methods are clearly better ways to live by.

>>2584504
See, if the website was managed well, and DID NOT HAVE INTRUSIVE, DISRUPTIVE, OR OBNOXIOUS ads, so that people wouldn't bother to block ads, there wouldn't be much of an issue with selling adspace. The demand wouldn't be extremely high, but it would be high enough so that many different companies would be willing to advertise here. The userbase is large enough, but you've got to make that adspace desirable besides that. People won't kill their reputations by supporting a website like this in its current state. You've got to think like the big boys, from their perspective, to understand all they want out of an adspace.
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>>2584513
>Yes, comrade. Glorious socialist and communist methods are clearly better ways to live by.
We need a state run 4chan.
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>>2584513
Nobody bothers to unblock ads anywhere, much less here. Which is a good thing considering the malware hiro allows in them.
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>>2584513
fucking suck a dick. ads are cancer. kill yourself.
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>>2584515
Unobtrusive ads are often added to adblocker whitelists, and most people use run of the mill ones that only get rid of annoying YouTube ads and such like that. The real issue lies in sketchy ads. Hiro royally screwed up when he put malware/porn ads up. He screwed up so hard, that if he doesn't play things properly by increasing the quality of the website, he might have already killed the website in the long run.
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>>2583827
>Sometimes I wonder what would have happened if 7chan/8ch got a decently sized userbases, but otherwise had their most frequented boards not be parallels to existing ones on 4chan.
heh
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>>2584002
sounds fucking awful

friendly reminder this is the target audience
everyone else needs to fucking walk on
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>for mobile
>doesn't load on my phone
good job
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>>2584532
>he might have already killed the website in the long run.
>might
rly nao?
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>People actually defending logins
Why would you want to willingly have every single post you ever make archived to an account that can be traced back to you?
>B-BUT NO ONE WOULD SEE IT BUT MODS!
Why would they need to see it? Logins do not benefit the user in any way whatsoever, and Hiro is only trying to implement logins to try to make money, eventually forcing everyone to pay to post.
The site has worked since it's fucking creation without the need for logins. Absolutely nothing has changed except Hiro taking over and wanting to milk this site for all it's worth
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>>2584643
There's a chance the website could be killed by something other than lack of advertising, but it doesn't look that way right now.

>>2584644
Why would you want to willingly have every single post you ever make archived to an *IP address* that can be traced back to you?
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phoneposters literally SEETHING right now
LMAO
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>>2584646
You can change your ip with the press of a button. Why should I have to make multiple accounts to avoid having my entire post history logged to me?
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>>2584646
if it wasnt for the election botnet and this place being in the news every 5 seconds this place would be sitting at like 1/2 the base already
as it is now its been on a slow trickle since the election
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Well done. Another nail in the coffin.
>login or register
Wow will phoneposters be stupid enough to do this?
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please fix that
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>>2584652
You change your IP all the time? The point is to curb ban evasion. To keep people from posting garbage. To make the website somewhere people will pay for adspace. The change wouldn't be for your benefit. In fact, it's supposed to keep people like you from posting at all.
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>>2584688
It's mongoloid extra chromosome thinking like yours that killed digg and a whole shitload of other sites that decided they didn't like their users and thought they'd get new ones if they just got rid of the pesky people who made the site.

But keep slobbering that dick you stupid fucking cunt.
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>>2584688
>to make the website somewhere people will pay for adspace
Maybe Hiro should just sell if he wants money. The site is not in danger of shutting down. No one wants logins, and they would not curb ban evasion at all. It just ads an extra step of making a new account as well
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>>2584704
It takes at most 10 dedicated people to ruin an entire board. That's a tiny percentage of users. Rangebans would also be less common. In this particular case, a board could only improve without those 10 people. You are afraid.
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>>2584715
Afraid of what? The site is already going to die. The fact that maggot normies like you are even here is proof of that.
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>>2584715
>THOSE TEN DEDICATED PEOPLE WOULDN'T EXIST IF YOU HAD THEM MAKE ACCOUNTS!
You're a fucking retard if you honestly believe that people who change their ips to ban evade wouldn't make extra accounts to do the same
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>>2584725
By your logic? You're afraid that you'll be kicked out before the end. Because you still care about the website, even if only for its existence as an easy way for you to get attention.

>>2584733
Most people wouldn't bother to keep making accounts just to post garbage. That alone would improve the website. New accounts could always have to wait a couple days before posting. Of course, at first there would need to be a grace period for the first month so the website wouldn't just be dead for the first while.
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>>2584740
>Most people wouldn't bother to keep making new accounts
>BUT THEY'D CHANGE THEIR IPS BROS
You do realize making a new email account takes less than a minute right? You're a fucking retard if you honestly believe these "dedicated" shitposters you're so terrified of would stop at having to make an account
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>>2584740
>By your logic? You're afraid that you'll be kicked out before the end. Because you still care about the website, even if only for its existence as an easy way for you to get attention.
Since you're obviously trolling it's obviously attention you want too because no actual person here would be sucking the cock of advertisers and begging Wal-Mart to shit up the place.
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Eh, it's not worth seriously responding to people who stand in defense of shitposting.
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>>2584775
You can't refute a thing retard. Making a new email account takes literally one minute, and there's no restrictions on how many accounts you can make with the endless email providers. Making 4chan require a login wouldn't do a thing to reduce ban evading because making a new account would take a minute.
>B-but what if we did something super gay like make new accounts wait days before being able to post!
Then you'd just have autists making 50 accounts at a time, and having a new one constantly ready to switch to
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the shitposters are nervous
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>>2584782
Of course they are. Not only will they know they aren't wanted on the website they abuse constantly, they will be forced off and will have to live the reality they don't want to live.
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>>2584782
>>2584784
>No one would make multiple accounts!
Enjoy Hiro taking your entire post history and selling it to the highest bidder
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>>2584810
Who are you quoting?
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>>2579226
>>2579267
>4chan-passes can only be bought with """anonymous""" cryptocurrency
>make new 4chan-design only usable after registration
14-dimensional stratego
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>>2581033
>That's on paypal's side m8.

>can buy passes for porn-sites using CC and/or paypal
>can't buy pass for 4chan

Checks out. Not.
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>>2583327
CREDITCARD-/PAYPAL-PAYMENT FOR 4CHAN(NEL)-PASS WHEN!?
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posting from clover if you nuke the json api or otherwise make clover stop working I will ABSOLUTELY stop phoneposting and will only browse from my desktop with fully configured adblockers and shit
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>>2584648
>phoneposters worked gookmoot into a shoot so he an heros 4chan
Just according to keikaku*.
* keikaku means plan
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I have a different question, Hiro.

When are you going to make it so porn threads don't sit around for 8 hours?
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>>2579226
oh wew, at this point he's just trolling us
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NEW IDEA:
If a person tries to quote text that isn't present in the thread, whatever he is quoting is replaced by "holy shit I suck so much dick". This thread proves it is a necessary measure.
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>>2585071
>Anonfilly
>Glimmer

>>2585070
Wow! Based cat
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Bring back text boards please hiroyuki
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Hey Hiro, if you're here, can you fix /news/?

They changed the bump limit to be 14 days instead of 48 hours like stated in the rules.

And you're only allowed to post 5 threads total instead of 10 threads daily, which really hurts content creation because the board is about current events and new threads need to be created for new news articles.

If you could fix those, it would do a lot for /news/.
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>>2585118
based
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>>2584450
/a/ has been one of the biggest and most profitable advertising draws on 4chan throughout its history. You're telling him to kill the website and you're clearly mentally ill.
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>>2585159
>2010+9
>Still mad about horses
Here, just for you
I miss Dan vs...
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>>2585179
>>2585159
Good job derailing this shit faggots
>>2579226
Daily fuck off hiro
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Its pretty bad. the whole site breaks if you press the reply button and aren't logged into a 4chan pass.
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>>2579226
Hey Hiro!!!!

We really really REALY should merge with reddit.com already!!!!

(amirite fellow r/4channel, r/greentext, and other fellow narhwal bacons XDDDD)

IT WILL BE EPIC!!!!!!!!!!1!!!1!!!
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>>2585233
HOLY SHIT DID SHE RELLY SAY DAT???

Epic broo XD
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>>2581342
Clover looks and feels better plus I only use 4chan so I get no benefits.
The only real plus to dashchan is the captchas.
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>Login/Register
Oh my god it's fucking over. The death of 4chan we've all been predicting has finally come
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*ahem*
fuck off.
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4chan be dead now?
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>>2579226
this is the cancer that finally kills 4chan?
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>>2579249
retardo
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>>2584791
No you're the irrelevant minority. Actual views which are what advertisers want have nosedived.

Nobody wants to read you NPCs posting about your love of advertisers and soi products.
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>>2585323
>Actual views which are what advertisers want have nosedived.
According to your head-canon? We only have 1 kind of ads, clickbait. You don't understand how our ads work (because you're new) they do not buy space and count the visits, they buy page impressions, 1 page impression is one view.

>Nobody wants to read you NPCs posting about your love of advertisers and soi products.
Your are replying to a different anon, but anybody can tell you're the typical /pol/ newfag thinking he is a "2016 oldfag"
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>>2585340
inb4 hurr durr alexa

Check any other stats too.

Why the fuck do you think hiro is spazzing out and coming up with all kinds of retarded shit after nearly a year of nothing?

He's panicking you jizz gargling retard.
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>>2583215
>Pol because pol is FUCKING based
top cringe
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>>2585353
>alexa
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>>2579333
imagine being this retarded
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>>2585353
Any stats you can come up with are irrelevant, firstly because they are likely bullshit like alexa, but most importantly because you mistakenly assume less traffic = bad finances like the misinformed /pol/fag you are. We go green when our bandwidth costs scale down, for that to happen we need less, not more traffic (this was already well known when moot was the owner). That's why back in 2016 (were you even around back then?) hiro warned about the possibility of closing boards as a final solution to our monetary problems if it came to it, it didn't come to it thanks to the shitty ads we started running shortly after that, he even spoke of pop-ups, the day you start seeing those that means we are in trouble. Keep your theories about what's happening to 4chan to yourself until you lurk for at least 10 years.
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>>2585293
>that filename
Based ancientfag
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>>2579980
>he bans entire countries on 4chin
just like moot
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>>2585410
ironically the first country that got blocked was japan because they were raping the bandwidth but not posting anything
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>>2585293
Whatever happened to Waha anyway? I haven't seen anything except the halloween buttons posted for years.
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>>2585256
read the thread before posting, el retardo
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Yo HIRO

This shit fucks up the IPs. You can't use the same 4chan pass in this p4 version and on a regular PC/phone at the same time.
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>>2583327
>4) are logins going to be mandatory? Will they replace captcha?

>it depends

Never do that.
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>>2583327
Btw, you need to get better in avoiding ban-evaders like barneyfag >>2585470 .
Make his image hash banned like what you did with the Gummy pic.
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>>2585402
It must take you a lot of effort to be so stupid at such great length. Is it actually physically painful to have a skull so full of water?
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>>2583947
>Nobody sees the login. Nobody.
>If you think your anonymous postings are actually anonymous, you're a fucking retard.
>If you think a login behind-the-scenes will change that, you're an even bigger idiot.
>If an intelligence agency wanted to find you, they could. Period.
>They have the power, manpower and unlimited funds to send a fucking army after you if they want.
>No amount of "lol behind 7 proxies" will save you.
>They'll just send some junkie to come slice you open for pennies.
look at this huge faggot, look at how wrong he is.
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>>2585510
They're not shilling, they're watching you give a geek show performance biting the heads off chickens and shitting yourself in a tard rage.
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>>2585522
You idiot fuck. Nobody cares about "intelligence agencies." It's more the shitty low rent scumbag operations who want to pay gookmoot for harvested data.
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>>2585503
you are reduced to calling me names when you run out of bs, sad
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This looks like dogshit and I hate it.

PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING EVER.
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>>2585565
You act like you even have an argument to rebut. I'm just calling you the idiot you obviously are.
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>>2579544
based as fuck
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>>2585580
I don't have an argument to rebut because you never offered any, I'm just laying down the facts and you are getting mad at me for it
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>>2585587
I'm not mad that you're an idiot. Try to keep up Sparky.
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>>2585589
so you just insult me because just because? how childish
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>>2585592
If you're going to spout arrant nonsense in public you should expect less than complimentary replies.
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>>2585580
If you can't tell me why is it non-sense and expect me to accept it just because you say it's so, because you are smarter or because I'm an idiot, then you have no way of rebutting my non-sense, seeing you were outclassed you decided to turn this into a trolling competition under the puerile excuse of "I'm just calling you what you deserve to get called"
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if this is the first step towards requiring all phoneposters to pay to use 4chan i'm all for it
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>>2585293
>11... filenames
and I thought 13 was already pretty old
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>not having 12...
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>spamming anime
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>>2585642
Where do you think the person who drew this is now? I hope there's still lots of happy drawings coming from them. It feels weird when the "it's going to happen to you" phase begins to happen, watching the world grow past.
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>>2585603
>4chan posters want wal-mart ads
>and for real 4chan gold accounts
>hurr durrr

why u say i dum?
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>>2585664
primo chimpout bro thanks for teh entertainment.
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>>2579226
Let me buy a pass with credit card again, please.
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>>2585150
You really have no clue how bad this website is to do business with, do you?
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Why can I buy a new pass with PayPal but not renew one????
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>>2585716
And what's new about that? moot managed to cope with it. hiro is just a greedy idiot who can't figure out how to squeeze some shekels out of the feral autists who live here.
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>>2580340

I've been here since 08/09 and I don't remember shit happening after /new/ was deleted. This threat holds no water.
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>>2585672
Check /sp/.
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>>2585418
it had its time and became a fond memory. as all things should.
certainly better than having 5 million unfunny, unoriginal edits because people lack creativity nowadays.
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>>2585858
Seems for the best then. I miss it but wouldn't want it to be messed up by returning at the same time.
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>>2585522
Absolutely no one here is afraid of the government tracking us if 4chan makes accounts. What we don't want is Hiro being the money grubbing kike he is and using our login info to sell all our data and post history to the highest bidders.
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>>2585688
I already told you I'm a different poster in my second reply, I can answer for my own posts, apparently you're were dumb to understand that
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>>2585967
>you're were dumb to understand that
lol nice sputtering incoherent gibberish
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>>2586026
I rather spout nonsense unintentionally when making typos than intentionally when trying to make an argument like you do
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>>2579298
/Thread
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There were over 1900 replies to this thread 12 hours ago.
Now there’s less than 1800.
What are the mods deleting?

Also, the 4chan vtuber project was a scam. Long live based boy.
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>>2586320
>what are the mods deleting
A bunch of Barneyfag's repetitive shitposting and the images he latched on to were deleted.
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>>2585073
>>2584911
you can use for commissions drawthreads and art trades
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>>2579226
This is the worst idea that anyone has ever had regarding 4chan. This would kill the site. By which I mean, even if it doesn't ruin it its userbase will actively seek to annihilate it. You're inviting your own destruction by going through with this.
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>>2586529
It'd only affect phoneposters and a bunch of mobile IPs are already rangebanned, so you'd need a pasd to post anyways.
Besides, hiro may be a greedy gook but he's not that dumb. 2ch has the Ronin shit which is pretty much the same, and it's not pay2post.
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If you make it so it requires an account to post on pc then the site will die.
Being completely anonymous and having no restrictions on what you can say are the only things this site has going for it.
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>>2586541
Hiro already said in this thread that he cannot promise logins will not become mandatory on the main site in the future. You're naive if you believe he wouldn't destroy this site to try to get money
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I love you hiro, thank you for fucking over the phonefaggots. zoomers are eternaly cucked from now on. may posting improve. Umbasa
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Hiro what the fuck is that image.
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hiro should become an hiro
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>>2586565
If things can't turn around, he has my permission to suck the website dry, and throw away the bones. What's the point if the website is bad for mature topical discussion, and can't make money?
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>>2579226
For the love of fucking God do not fucking do this Hiro. Is is god awful and will completely ruin the 4chanx extension that a large portion of users (like myself) use. Please don't. Please.

Please.
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Don't check /vp/.
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>>2586797
NECK YOURSELF JUSTPASSINGTHROUGH
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>>2586853
About 24 deletions was quite good desu. I'm sure you would have done the same.
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>>2586878
YOU'RE STILL A FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT WHO DESERVES TO DIE BRUTALLY FOR TRYING TO FORCE YOUR HAND ON EVERY THREAD YOU SEE THAT DOESN'T FIT YOUR OWN CRITERIA AND CAN'T ACCEPT PEOPLE LIKING DIFFERENT THINGS
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>>2579226
Hiro, removed GR15. Free them from their cage.
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>>2586320
Was it? What did Hiro get out of it? Did he even say anything about it when the sticky went down?
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>>2579226
I hope this means you're going to do something about serial ban evaders, spambots and raids. Maybe even the rampant shitposting, though that's a stretch.
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great, more retarded bullshit
thanks hiro
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>>2585654
I like to think that the anons I used to talk to back then are now living a happy, fulfilling life away from the chans, unlike me :^)
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>sticky becomes rolling
>all the gook replies disappear
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>>2580292
People who were using it before it became listed?

Also while you're at it change the sticky or delete it altogether.
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>>2586733
The website is making enough money to stay afloat and turn a small profit. The only thing is Hiro is fucking greedy as shit and bought the site wanting to bastardize it in order to make more money.
Hiro should just fucking sell the site since he clearly doesn't care about it beyond trying to milk it for money
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do pants shit
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>>2587212
After late 2014, things went downhill fast. Word's out that this place ain't so good for official product placement. And we all know it isn't just /pol/ that gives things a bad name. It's the fact that every board tries to be /b/. All I have to say from a honest, non-garbage posting, user's perspective, is that the quality of the website has been abysmal. The business savvy side of me says Hiro could be making more money. But he needs to be careful. Of course making you have to pay to post is stupid. Somewhere in between should be found. Do something different. Experiment carefully.
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>>2585468
>>2585470
>>2585514
>>2585664
>>2585672
>>2585537
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>>2587212
>>2587226
bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla
huh? you done?
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>>2586913
>Free them from their cage
OH NO
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>>2587285
GR15 has long outlived any usefulness it has. All it currently does is give a schizophrenic Ontarian justification for his bizarre rituals.
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>>2586320
It's now down to under 1000.
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>>2579226
>literally turning the site into normalfag-friendly social media garbage
Fuck off and die you fucking retard.
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Hiro is pure cum
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>>2587442
Based Jap nuking the weebs finally.
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I added "poopie" to my fav boards via JS debugger and it broke the site

also this >>2580680
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>>2580857
I already frequented 8gag during the GG shitshow, I left when it became apparent that it was just 7chan 2.0
The system of creating boards really didn't help to prevent modfaggotry on the legacy boards, and despite hotdud's claims to the contrary he was pretty chummy with most of the mods of the largest boards, nullifying any decentralization the site's architecture could support. This lead to a lot of drama in 2015 and the site stagnating, and to this day the site's only culture or ethos to speak of is "not being 4chan."

While 4chan's culture has a lot of problems today such as:
users who are fans of the site rather than having any interest in any of the topics
chanology-tier causefags who delude themselves with pretensions about opposing "normies" while being normalfags themselves
cringe "culture" spergs who's unstated operating premise is that liking things is wrong
and various other social media refuse

4chan at least developed an identity of its own over the years, it actually was for something rather than merely against things it didn't like. Sure that's heavily distorted now but its more than what 8gag has.
And if you think that Jim Watkins wasn't involved with Hiro's fuckery on 2ch, then you just have a problem separating the forest from the trees.
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>>2583327
>it depends.

NO, NO FUCKING LOGINS

WHAT THE FUCK THIS IS 4CHAN NOT FUCKING REDDIT
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>>2583339
will login keep track of how many posts you've made like other forums?
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>ITT newfags that don't know that other imageboards have had logins for regular users while still retaining anonymous front ends for years
That being said, Hiro is implementing this for all the wrong reasons and is a massive faggoty slant eyed gook.
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>>2583360
>Would really help with spamming and ban evasion.
The ways people bad evade aren't compromised by having to jump through an account shaped hoop.

You just want to redditify the place so you'll feel more at home.
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>>2587611
Almost every website uses user account, but it somehow makes it more like a site you are obsessed with. User accounts are a bottleneck you can adjust to keep garbage out. Can limit the number of accounts that can be created in a day for the entire site, limit the number in a certain region, eventually turn off account creation for a period of time etc. What makes Reddit Reddit is the karma shit tied to an account name, UI, how it threads posts, it's subforum system; no one's asking for any of that trash.
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>>2583360
>give me r*ddit
Why are you here? You want a side of Karma with that?
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>>2587635
Okay, kid. So you have no actual argument I guess. :^)
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>>2583406
>>2583404
>>2583402
why don't you build that login thing into normal 4chan, it somehow recognizes the pass cookie, why can it not work with what we currently have?

p4 is ugly and has a weird stupid workflow
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>>2587625
If it would keep verbose, rambling shitheads like you out I'd be all for it, but you'd be one of the ones gargling mod cock so hard you could hear it a mile away.
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>>2587611
the people who ban evade twice a minute are mildly inconvenienced by having to jump through account shaped hoops

it's like captcha: anyone can go through the captcha, or wire a bot to go through the captcha, but it's annoying enough that it discourages a fraction of people from bothering
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>>2587689
And there's little correlation between the people it actually deters and the people you actually want to deter.

The worst shitposters are also the most determined to shitpost.

Look at Barneyfig who is responsible for nearly 500 deleted posts in this thread alone.
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>>2583430
>people
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reddit is better
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>>2587724
what's the saying? 90% of people won't steal your bike even if its unlocked, 1% of people will steal your bike even if it is locked, and the lock is there for the other 9% of people by making it harder to do.

barneyfag is the single most prolific ban evader in history. but even he doesn't account for more than probably 5% of instances of ban evasion because at the end of the day he's only one person and 4chan has hundreds of thousands of posters. the fact that a measure aimed at curbing ban evasion won't deter the #1 most dedicated ban evader in history doesn't mean it won't discourage the hundreds or thousands of "haha i have a phone" casual ban evaders running around.
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>>2580729
f
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>>2587928
never change barneyfag
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>>2579226
it's over, gook moot killed the site
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HIRO DID IT, THE ABSOLUTE MADLAD.
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(You)
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>>2585293
>1175258106684
>this image was saved in 03/30/2007 @ 12:35pm (UTC)
oh man...
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>>2588083
Goldson BTFO
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>>2586921
How the fuck did you a hiroyuki tripcode?
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>>2588259
If only he could have hit hiroyuki4u.
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>>2587611
>The ways people bad evade aren't compromised by having to jump through an account shaped hoop.
except it is
as it is now, when you get banned, it takes about a minute to undo it and get a new IP so you can start shitposting again.
With an account, the ban sticks to the account, so now in order to evade, you have to
>cycle your IP
>make a new burner email (ideally, you would get one registration per email address)
>register an account with the new email
>wait for activation message to get sent to email
>activate account
That's already several extra steps and more time spent just to evade a ban and shitpost.

Now, this can be made even more tedious and time consuming for ban evaders by adjusting some factors, like
>disallowing common 'burner' mail domains like any of those temp email providers
>adding an artificial timer to when the activation email gets sent out (like 5 minutes, which adds time that ban evaders will have to wait out)

add in any of these >>2587625 and ban evasion can take upward of 5-7 minutes easy. And if you added in having a pass being mandatory to post from mobile, as well as changing it so that the pass is tied to 4chan account. that's another even bigger obstacle to shitposting. I think even B*rneyfag would think twice when every single ban evasion costs him $20.

The point of this entire measure would be to make ban evasion costly in time and possibly money. Both of those greatly mitigate spam and shitposting, both of which mobile users contribute the lion's share of.
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>>2588360
Top 10 Sexiest Lip Bites in Anime
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>>2588379
Didn't you say you would finally fuck off if GR15 is removed? Why are you still here then?
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>>2588385
kek
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>>2579226
So this is just Clover in website form?
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>>2588580
Irs better
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>>2588736
Cringe
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>>2579226
Please don't be this much of an idiot.
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>>2588756
rude kek
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>>2584515
I did when they ads weren't trash. Mobile ads are also trash, they pop up in the middle of your text area when you do a quick reply. It's no one's fault but Hiro's that he has a loose hand on the whip when it comes to what the ads should be like.
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>>2579226
I haven't even really used this site in years, but this shit is actually the worst. What the fuck are you thinking?
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>>2585704
uhm
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Phone posting is the future, it’s only going to increase/
Deal with it.
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>>2589224
Kek
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>>2588291
>>disallowing common 'burner' mail domains like any of those temp email providers
> temp
top kek. what's next, faggot? real ID must sent to hiro just for anonymous posting? AHAHAHAH
>>2587625
>Almost every website uses user account,
we're not talking about other websites, are we, faggot? we're talking about an anonymous image board. why do you sad, pathetic and incompetent shills wish to remove anonymity? no agendas here, 4chan senpai! my fucking sides. what extreme levels of FAGGOTRY.
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>>2589319
Can't grasp a simple fucking concept? USER ACCOUNTS DO NOT REMOVE THE ANONYMITY YOU ARE MEANT TO HAVE. Fuck you're stupid.
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>>2589330
they do
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>>2589345
Elaborate.
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>>2589345
They don't.
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>>2589330
>>2589353
> being this computer illiterate
they completely remove anonymity, you retarded faggots.
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>>2589357
Surely you must be pretending if you believe you are entirely anonymous on 4chan. Mods can see your IP.
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>>2589357
Yet you cannot explain how it makes you less anonymous to other users.
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>>2589330
>posting anonymously without any identifier aside from a dynamic IP
vs.
>posting "anonymously" using an email account where hiro could store your posts in a database and link the said post with your email account
Tell me how the latter does not remove your "anonymity".
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>>2589363
see this post, you incompetent cunt:
>>2589385
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>>2589385
>I am meant to be anonymous from the site owner and authorities
As already stated clearly and repeatedly, and should be plainly obvious, the purpose of 4chan is to be anonymous from other users; whatever you said in the past is not tied to an identity that is visible to other users.
There is an intended purpose for the site as laid out in the rules. You are not meant to post child pornography and get away with it.
Your understanding of 4chan is as Reddit as it gets. Just some fucking kid that heard about 4chan elsewhere as being some shitposting site.
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>>2589385
dynamic ip doesn't mean shit. when the authorities have to trace you they'll just ask who was assigned that ip at that moment
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>>2589385
Just use another chan fucking pedoscum.
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first the idol scam to sell pass.
now harvesting emails.
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>>2589401
If you're fine with your data being sold to the highest bidder then do as you wish, but I don't and fairly certain that so do most of us here. There hasn't been any user registration on this site during its lifetime and it sure as hell doesn't need one anytime soon.
>>2589404
Funny how everytime you mention anonymity you're instantly branded as a pedo or a criminal. As I've said above, I just don't want my data to be sold to the highest bidder. 2ch warned us about this.
>>2589434
It surely says alot about the current state of this site.
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>>2589650
Buy a Pass and maybe he won't sell your data.
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>>2588780
Is this a early out of season Apirl Fools joke?
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>>2589718
Kek
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>>2589718
Don't you people have phones?
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>>2589760
I do, but I wouldn't use it to post on a forum
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>>2589330
>>2589330
wtf am i even reading
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Please, PLEASE kill yourself Hiro. I'm begging you
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>>2589330
Being pseudonymous is not precisely being anonymous desu.
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Are you still doing that? What a waste of time.
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>>2587625
>eventually turn off account creation for a period of time
There it is, accountfags really do want to just shut the site down.

>>2588291
You just explained why accounts would drive away huge numbers of legitimate users. Meanwhile, ban evaders can simply use a premade script to automate that whole process.
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The only real concern about accounts is how it will give the bad janitors and mods more power. Some boards are made worse by them, and accounts would allow them to completely shut down legitimate arguments against poor judgement from them. Don't you pretend that selective moderation based of personal preferences, regardless of the rules, doesn't happen.
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>>2590211
/qa/ is now unlisted and falls under the unwritten rule that applies to /trash/ to where GR15 doesn't affect it. They will not be deleted because they technically don't break GR15 anymore.
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>>2583732
>Fuck shii / menchi. Fucking literal weeb.
Shii is a god among men and is infallible in all ways. Don't insult him.
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>removed the pixel art favicon
NOW I'VE LOST IT
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>>2589650
>If you're fine with your data being sold to the highest bidder
Hiro is doing this anyways because he's a greedy kike, registration to post isn't going to change that.
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>>2590332
The fact that Hiro is already ass raping us doesn't make it okay that he's also going to murder us.
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>>2590029
The only people it's going to turn away are lazy faggots who can't spend 5 minutes to make an account. And anyways, 4chan definitely needs less people using it, turning away what are likely to be trash users is a good thing. Not keeping out the trash and an unmanageably huge userbase are some of the many reasons why 4chan is in the sorry state it is right now compared to its earlier years.

Not once have any of you managed to successfully explain why accounts are bad, and you keep just repeating the same shit over and over even after it's been explained to you why accounts won't change anything with regards to actual discussion. No one is getting a name, post count, or avatar, there's not going to be karma or upvotes, it's not going to change how mods see users because you were never anonymous to any of the staff since day 1. But you are still going to scream 'REDDIT! GO BACK!' because you don't want to be wrong in an internet argument. Hell, maybe you are shitposters yourselves who would be impacted by this, maybe that's why you are so against the idea.
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>>2590344
Everyone should know by now that the loudest outcry against effective bans, is from shitposters and trolls.
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>>2590344
How do we get rid of pompous, rambling cunts like you who would never violate any actual rule but who drag down the quality of contribution by being boring pieces of shit?
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>>2590344
>wanting a name attached to everything you post
>"""anons""" will now endlessly refer to other post the user made when they disagree with something, completely derailing threads even worse
Why not use literally any other website for this?
>No one is getting a name, post count, or avatar, there's not going to be karma or upvotes
Then what do we need accounts for (other than hiro selling whatever information he gets with them)?
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>>2590401
As a means of making ban evasion harder, as I previously explained in detail. What takes phoneposters a few seconds to do can now take upwards of 5 minutes. If you can't see how that would drastically mitigate the kind of effortless driveby shitposting that plagues the site, I don't know what else to say to you except you're retarded.
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>>2590414
Did you actually read my reply or used the link he provided?
>You must register your 4chan pass to post a new response.
He doesn't give a fuck about post quality, he wants to sell passes. You think he'll ban the last shitposters who give him money?
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>>2590414
>If you can't see how that would drastically mitigate the kind of effortless driveby shitposting that plagues the site, I don't know what else to say to you except you're retarded.

Get a load of this fucking moron.

He thinks people so desperate for attention they'll pay are going to be higher quality posters.
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>>2590344
>And anyways, 4chan definitely needs less people using it
This is the only part of your post that isn't a lie. If you just want less people around, that's your opinion, but don't try to talk about the earlier years when the whole point of early 4chan was to eliminate barriers to posting and let the content flow easily.
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>>2590344
>And anyways, 4chan definitely needs less people using it
Be the change you want to see, you worthless faggot.

And by that I mean drink bleach.
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>>2589385
>not using throwaway generated public access email
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>>2590564
See >>2588291
>>disallowing common 'burner' mail domains like any of those temp email providers
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>>2590217
>/qa/ is now unlisted
Wait, really? I still see it listed, though I'm using 4CX
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>>2590344
Even if it's an extra 20 minutes I think you're drastically underestimating people's will to post stupid bullshit. Passes are hella weak, and I'll maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, consider getting on board with "accounts that no one will see (fucking lol)" if the mods will stick to banning people for actually breaking rules and not just because they disagree with them or don't like the board's culture.
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>>2590640
You can't trust jannies/mods not to do that now because they're autistic weirdos willing to do this shit for free, not even for moot but for some thieving gook.

It's just now that it's only a minor nuisance when some autist bans you for nothing. Paying customers and people with accounts wouldn't put up with that kind of puerile SJW mod shit that would come along with this kind of culture.
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>>2590643
>>2590640
Yeah obviously this wouldn't provide a decisive answer to the Moderator Question, and wouldn't stop them from being enormous, dick-licking faggots, the only way that's going to happen is kicking them out on their ass, all of them, and replacing them. But this will solve the issue of there basically being zero reason to even have mods since there are zero consequences to breaking the rules if you have the means to evade bans.
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>>2590643
Not long ago I got warned for reporting one of those greentext strawman posts used to derail a discussion thread. You really can't trust mods when they actively support shitposting.
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Ok so riddle me this:
You all seem really really upset about having to register an e-mail (or register anything at all) as a countermeasure to ban evasion. Ok, I get that. Something something anonymity is the site's "thing" and you don't want to have your information sold even if it's not shown to other users. Yeah, fair enough.
So, what else can be done about ban evading retards bringing the quality of the entire site to historic lows? Clearly IPs don't mean shit anymore all because of retarded phoneposters, and even on a PC dynamic ones exist or can be spoofed without much effort. So what else could be done? Serious question, what the fuck else could possibly be done to make bans actually mean something without having to resort to accounts?
Look, I'm as sick of mobile tards ruining fucking everything and getting away with no repercussions just as you are, but I don't see how this shit could be mitigated without pulling drastic changes.
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>>2590663
Mods and janitors worth a damn. /jp/ is so bad, it even has porn generals. See, even though I'm for accounts, I have basically zero trust in moderation to not abuse it to silence people they don't want to hear.
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>>2590663
Make 4chan visitable only through a PC client that would easily facilitate Byond/Punkbuster style hardware bans. Main issues with this though:
>Hardware bans can still be bypassed (Byond's sticky bans are hardware and account based but they are still bypassable)
>Hiro would probably use the client to mine buttcoins in the background
>ez way for faggots to peddle tampered versions of the 4chan client to dumbfuck redditors, allowing their pwned PCs to be used for all sorts of shenanigans (like massive botnet spam attacks on the board)

>>2590669
There's nothing stopping them from doing this anyway, they can click your IP and view every post you've made with that IP

And if the older leaked mod chatlogs are any indication then they do keep extensive shitlists of users they don't like, so you can bet if they hate you enough they will find ways to stalk your posts no matter what IP you have.
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>>2590675
My problem is that more effective bans are going to get very questionable people, even more drunk with power. You don't fix such a broken website by only changing the userbase, because it can't get this bad when only one party is at fault. The state of many boards is proof of that. You can watch a board for a while, to see what garbage is and isn't removed, and you can really start to understand just how little moderation as a whole cares about or understands the management of communities.
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Just remove GR15 and 25% of unnecessary bans will be cleared up.
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>>2590685
This.
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>>2590675
>they can click your IP and view every post you've made with that IP
And then they can read the shit tons of unrelated posts from other people going through the same router, and all the people who had the same dynamic IP at different times. Identifying a person from an IP often requires help from law enforcement.
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>>2590702
It's not like they have to prove it in a court of law or some shit. They just have to think it's you and ban your ass.
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>>2590685
Holy shit THIS, Not even a horsefucker but I got tired of the barneyfag autist spamming on /v/ all these years the same fucking pic
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>>2590728
In practice, that hasn't been happening with the IP system we have, even if the reason is simply that they're not good at thinking.
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>>2590736
Barneyfag is a perfect example of why this account idea is bullshit. That is a guy who has done exactly the same thing on the same boards for literally years, using exactly the same images.

You wouldn't need accounts to make his bullshit inconvenient but the mods and jannies are just incompetent morons.

They don't actually enforce rules, they just delete whatever triggers them personally, like that idiotic faggot on /g/ deleting the OP images because he's some tumblr tranny angry at the pepes/wojaks and probably thinks they're some Nazi symbol.

The mods/jannies are completely disconnected from anything like the site's culture and account systems will be completely useless rectifying that when they're too dumb to even handle someone like Barneyfag.
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>>2590740
Kek
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>>2590740
>that idiotic faggot on /g/ deleting the OP images because he's some tumblr tranny angry at the pepes/wojaks and probably thinks they're some Nazi symbol.
Deleting frog/wojakspam is based. That mod/janny needs to show up on /int/ and remove all the snoyjak shitters.
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>>2584121
Best post of the thread
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>>2590772
Nah
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hey hiro, when will 4chan start supporting webp?
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Does anyone have that image where wojak is doing standup and everyone says get something new and meanwhile Pepe says f word n word and everyone parties with him?
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>>2579226
Fire the janitor/mod who is supposed to be active on /v/ right bnow.
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>>2590750
It's literally not even spam though, wojak and pepe are just catch-all symbols that can be used to evoke a lot of different emotions for virtually countless threads. Not everyone who uses a pepe is some sore NEET who spams "peepee poopoo" threads all day.
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>>2579226
Someone keeps deleting the feedback I leave. Entirely legitimate feedback of poor moderation. This has been going on for 4 years.

A mod is shitposting and trying to hide any word against them.
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>>2591047
It’s hopeless really.
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>>2591047
Do you honestly think the mods give a fuck want you say?
If you think you have any form of influence here you’re a delusional fucking retard.
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>>2591070
I honestly believe a few of them might care, and that would be enough for one of them to try to cover their tracks. 4 years of the same thing. It's so specific, is obviously against the rules, and hardly ever receives real action against it., it has to be intentional.
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>>2591174
Cringe
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>>2591190
Cringe
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>>2589434
So what came out of that? There really wont be a 4chan youtube channel and Hiro actually was using it to sell passes?
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>>2591412
>There really wont be a 4chan youtube channel and Hiro actually was using it to sell passes
To the suprise of no one with more than two neurons to rub rogether
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PLS HIRO DON'T DELIST /qa/.
Thanks.
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>>2590902
I was talking about this to my friend, do you need an AI app in order to create this file format?
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>>2591518
Are you going to repeat that 449842069 times?
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>>2591441
The "unlisting" of /qa/, will actually be its deletion. Which is a bit dumb, because it would be useful place to push posts of people getting upset after accounts become a requirement. Other than that, simply unlisting it at this point would be only to the detriment of the board, because it would get less meta discussion, and would be even more dominated with garbage, like before it was first listed. Unless he can get rid of the people who abuse this board, the board will probably get deleted instead of simply unlisted.
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>>2591542
Yeah that's why i'm against unlisting because the garbage would be even more.
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Well that was a fun thread. Got some new images and all.
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>>2591542
>>2591545
Though deleting it would be probably the best solution at this point.
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>>2591518
you lost, stop embarrassing yourself
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>>2591604
The people who abuse the board would take it as a victory.

"WE destroyed /qa/!"
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>>2591532
>>2591564
JUST FUCKING DIE JUSTPASSINGTHROUGH
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this is so fucked up theres literally already a mobile version of the website that has existed for a long time and works surprisingly well. and also clover exists. if you do sometime to make clover stop working im not just gonna start using the fucking mobile site, either the one that exists now OR this new faggy one
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the funny part is that the site is unusable on an actual mobile device because you're trying to throw columns into a 480p square, which may often not be on the latest version of Jewgle Android or Kikephone.
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>>2592492
actually, scratch that. it doesn't even work on windows phone. just a white blank page.
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HIRO, FULL IPv6-SUPPORT WHEN!? IT'S $CURRENTYEAR!
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>>2592495
>windows phone
dead OS is dead
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>>2583332
ON HOW GOOD YOUR MANNERS ARE

HOW BIG YOUR... POCKETBOOK IS


HEHEHEHEHEHEHE
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>>2592585
FUCK JANNIES
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I'm pretty sure most of the hate towards moderation stems directly from seeing some garbage get deleted, while seeing other garbage stay up. Seeing moderation go through a board and only deleting a portion of the garbage, is only going to make both sides of the crowd angry.
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>>2592648
It's exactly this. There's no consistency. There's no one or the other laying down of the law which would send a clear message to at least on of the groups who would eventually bugger off as they realize the place isn't for them. No, it's just random most of the time, or entirely an arbitrary decision without approval or input from the community itself.
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>>2592648
If only it was just garbage, 99% of the time it's completely on topic, board relevant content that just magically 404's for no reason, while the shitpost thread made by discord shitpost raid faggots or a crossboard spammer stays up till archival. Some of these mods genuinely seem to enjoy shitting up and ruining boards.
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>>2592651
Here are some examples of content that is obvious to people who wouldn't know about video games:
>>>/v/449903846
>>>/v/449909484
>>>/v/449910402
>>>/v/449910660

Strange how only the gay porn meme thread was deleted. As if the other threads are conductive towards quality video game discussion? This moderation conflicts with what we are told to generally expect. It's the problem of only going a little in the right direction that makes both sides upset. One shitposter sees their garbage thread was deleted, while others remain. Honest posters see lazy moderation that doesn't care about the topic they want to discuss. In the end, moderation fuels both fires by going about things this way.
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>>2592648
Exactly. Also moderators seem to be insanely anti fun. I remember when /sp/ was good before mods thought fun should be outlawed.
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>>2592651
It doesn't help that there is zero coordination among mods since Hiro doesn't give a shit about the site and almost never administrates it like he's supposed to. Moderation is literally FFA.
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>>2592672
At least /sp/ still has enough balls to completely shit on their garbage moderation openly and viciously.

No other board will just completely shut down and dedicate its entire catalog to shitting on a single mod/janitor for being a stupid fuckwad, and it's a little sad. That kind of grand, unified measure in telling a shit person that they're shit is what other boards should strive to emulate, especially /v/, where garbage moderation is the only kind of moderation it ever gets.

>>2592676
Hiro doesn't partiicpate in the site at all outside of stupid shit like this. The mods and staff (mostly the mods) effectively run the site and dictate all its rules by merit of Hiro not telling them 'no'.
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>>2592678
The only time he stepped in IIRC was to make another mistake, allowing the NeoGAF scandal to be discussed on /v/.
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>>2591532
do not reply to him, he travels to another place or country to repeat his acts.
>>2591671
no u
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Kek
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>>2589362
>Surely you must be pretending if you believe you are entirely anonymous on 4chan. Mods can see your IP.
surely you must be a complete fucking retard to not know that wherever the sysadmin is getting their VPN blacklist from is SO POORLY MAINTAINED that people are here all the time using VPN? that people with mobile phones can cycle through to a new dynamic ip? my goodness. were born fucking retarded? was it a car accident? down syndrome? you're really stupid.
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>>2592648
Fucking this. They almost always seem, at best, to half ass the job. They can't be asked to either to do their jobs to the best of their ability or just give up entirely.
If there was a method to this madness it wouldn't be as bad, like if they made consistent and certain exceptions for tangential/off-topic threads that were still relevant to the board, even if they weren't the most appropriate. But the fact that Hiro is absent from any real community management means the mods are off their leash and are somehow worse than /tg/'s nazimod.
Nazimod was obscenely excessive to the point where 40k and DnD where the only things that you could post on /tg/ at the time, but at least his narrow view of what was and wasn't /tg/ was consistent and he was eventually removed because someone on the team was at least paying attention. In contrast I can only assume that the mods and janitors running 4chan now are kinda like Chinese or Japanese feudal lords running amok in the absence of centralized authority to tell them to stop being retards.

>>2592678
/jp/ used to be very vocal detractors of the mods, but that was years ago before everyone fled to the spinoffs.
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>>2592856
>In contrast I can only assume that the mods and janitors running 4chan now are kinda like Chinese or Japanese feudal lords running amok in the absence of centralized authority to tell them to stop being retards.
It's more or less what's going on right now. Mods are free to powertrip as much as they please, because nobody's going to stop them. You can complain and point out their gross incompetence all you want, nothing will happen because Hiro doesn't give a shit. Just like the current mods team is unlikely to change unless the oldest ones snap and decide to quit. I can't help but imagine what would happen if nazimod happened again, but with nobody to put an end to it.
This >>2581772 speaks for itself.
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This got me thinking, if 4chan under moot had a very horizontal hierarchy, wouldn't that be good parallel to the autocratic governments of the ancient Mediterranean?
And if so, dosen't that mean that Hiro's absence from community affairs is a good parallel to middle ages with the collapse of centralized government and that 4chan is retracing the broad historical structure of Europe?

Thus, when can we expect 4chan's "wars of absolutism"?
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massive cringe lad
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> 997 replies
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Nein Nein Nein
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>>2579226
It's terrible.

Implement kana captcha on /a/.
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quite possibly the single worst website I've ever had the displeasure of using
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>>2579226
whate the fuck is tthis shit
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>>2593390
The future you chose.
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>>2592856
/jp/ is a legitimately and objectively bad board for reasons you may not personally agree with. /jp/ is an even better example than /v/, of exactly what moderation is doing wrong.
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>>2593538
/v/ doesn't delete Touhou threads so they're clearly worse.
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>>2592856
>that was years ago before all the blogging retards fled to the spinoffs.
fixed
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>>2593578
I don't think you understand moderation as a concept.
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>>2579226
>>>/v/450001713
Could you test the site, please? I think something is broken.
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>>2579226
I found another broken thing:
https://www.4channel.org/feedback
This feature doesn't work.
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>>2593691
Working as intended
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>>2593698
Really? If that's the true purpose, then why does 4chan management lie to us about the FAQ and rule pages? No wonder nobody wants to do business with 4chan.
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>>2593699
Because the mods run this site now (since Hiro only cashes the checks) and they don't give a single solitary fuck about what you think because they hate you. The only reason they stick around is because of the power trip they get shitting up boards with their shitmodding, otherwise they would do all of us a favor and fuck off.
All I'm saying is that the mods are fags and there's no point in seeking solutions to the site's problems through them, because they are part of the problems. The only one who could concievably do anything of worth about the mods (like shitcanning them, as they should have been as far back as Moot's administration) is Hiro, and he won't do shit because unless they start affecting his bottom line, he's not going to care.
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>>2593701
>Hiro, and he won't do shit because unless they start affecting his bottom line, he's not going to care.
You would think a website that openly allows porn threads everywhere would be affecting the advertising potential.
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>>2593639
CRINGE
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>>2593989
rude
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>>2593699
Unless Hiro gets wild hair up his ass, don't expect him to be involved with the site beyond trying to recoup his "investment" (if you can call buying one of the largest yet most unprofitable sites around an investment), moot throughout his tenure at least cared enough some of the time to eventually getting around to axe shithead mods. That isn't the case now, Hiro really dosen't care about managing the community, which wouldn't be inherently bad if the mods didn't have inscrutable, inane, contradictory motives, and were in better contact with the community.
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i have not been browsing this site with any regularity since hiroshimoot merged the boards together as an april fools, what in the fuck is going on
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>>2594121
Me as well. I know exactly what you mean.
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why did i get a captcha, i paid good money for my pa$$
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>>2594562
you paid for humiliation and you got it, paypig
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So what's the point of this new site? I get that it's in beta but there is less functionality than the current mobile version of the site. The GUI buttons are also jittery and don't track well with the scrolling on chrome for android currently. Are filters, quick replies and the catalog going to be coming to p4?

Why aren't anonymous users anonymous names showing up on the site? Just not there yet or further attempts to distance the site from it's own notoriety?
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>>2594605
>So what's the point of this new site?
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Hnnnng Just like that! OHHH BABY COME ON! Ahhhhhhh hnnnnng!

Once more baby girl, let me see that anus wink. Ahhh yes closer sniff *the poop hase almost left the butthole*

Come on! Last push baby! Make sure you get it right this time. Right over my face!

*Shit has left the anus* Ah *Sniff* Oh god... *Soft sounds of poop being eaten*

Ahhhhhh thanks alot baby that really helped!
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The p4 site spits out a lot of errors if you try to use your pass on both sites. The "in use by another IP" is the most common one.
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>>2593047
>what are rolling stickies
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>>2594899
>what is bait
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>>2594899
I assume the joke is that the post count goes down repeatedly because Lee's posts are deleted
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it's literally just a blank screen
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>>2593989
hang yourself
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>>2595002
yes,add real money and problem solved.
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>>2579226
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Who's JUSTPASSINGTHROUGH?
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>>2590992
>DUDE CHECK OUT MY 3 EPIC REDDIT FROG AND FEELSFAG EDITS!
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>>2585293
>fags getting boners over a fucking filename from 2007
If it was pre-2005 I'd understand.

>>2585654
Probably dead.
Like all the people in Virus Buddy thread.
Like all the EFG reposters.
All the grinman shitposters.
All the bpost.exe users.
All gone.
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its a rolling sticky now
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Kek
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praised be hiro
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>>2595953
Cringe
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HIROSHIMA NAGASKAI KUN, ATLEAST KEEP THE OLD STYLE WEBSITE. DONT NUKE IT IF YOU DECIDE TO MAKE THIS STUPID CHANGE
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>>2583327
THE 4TH QUESTION IS LITERALLY THE REASON THIS WEBSITE IS GREAT
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>>2595855
https://youtu.be/xS_jfMIcPzA
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>>2579226
test
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What would happen to barneyfag if GR15 and /mlp/ get deleted
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>>2579226
the fuck is this shit hijo de puta
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>>2581131
>The end result of what Hiro is trying to do, from what I can see right now, is a better website
reddit already exists, and I think its what you're looking for my friend
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so this is how 4chan ends...
we had a nice(shitty) run though.
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>>2596455
people were saying the same thing with the domain split and nothing happened
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>>2579226
stop fucking making changes
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>>2579226
Fuck you, Gook.
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>>2583327
Hiro is the epitome of scum.
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>>2579226
Is hiro finally ending the phonepost plague?
fucking BASED
Maybe the site will be usable now.
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Hiro is a goddamn idiot if he thinks this is going to fix anything.
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get fucked Pol Pot.
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>>2595316
the oldest I have is a few 110, a few 114 but the majority range 116-121 which is where I bulk saved everything from all the boards I could before peacing out from 4chan to other imageboards because of how much I grew to hate this place.
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What the actual fuck is this.
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>>2579226
the view itself looks ok
i'm assuming the login/pass stuff is just for beta testing it? you should probably make that clear or people will freak out.
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>>2579226
what the niggerloving fuck is wrong with you you fucking jap
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LOOKS BAD HIRO
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>no catalog mode
That's pretty shitty
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who else hates niggers and jews heheh
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>>2596540
There is but it's shit.
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>>2579226
do you seriously have to fucking PROVIDE AN EMAIL TO CREATE THREADS OR EVEN REPLY YOU FUCKING NIGGER
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>>2596545
No, you have to have a pass to create threads and even reply.
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>>2579226
imagine thinking that this looks good
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>>2596524
I'm still trying to organize all my files.
I made a script to auto-organize files based on extension. I was considering adding by image type, then extension. I only did that for audio and video and archive / exes, and technically text files.
I was going to split files in those folders in to 1000 per folder. Just to make it easier to go through and tag them.
I would do a 1000 a day until I have tagged all the images. ( I wrote a separate image tagger than makes a toolbar on Irfanview)

I had to manually order the files in to those lists though.
Was I FUCK running it on everything. I don't trust it to maintain file structures in stuff that is already grouped nicely.
Right click folder, Order Files, done.
Anything that was manually grouped already would be put in the _grouped folder.
Simple enough, right?
One typo MADE IT RUN ON EVERYTHING.
ANOTHER TYPO BROKE THE 1000 PER FOLDER GROUPING
MY JPG FOLDER HAS 180,000+ IMAGES
FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

I've been tempted to hit delete. So tempted.
I created a monster.
I won't though. I am going to fix it... I will just run the grouping code on top of that folder.
Going to do it properly though. I want to prioritise more recent files, or files with letters and punctuation, since it is more than likely files I made or descriptive filenames of some kind.
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>>2596884
I don't have to pay for reddit, Tumblr, 8ch, literally anywhere, why would I do it here? Does Gook even think this shit through?
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Reminder they other boards are allowed a meta thread, and you can stop moving them to here, hot pockets.
>>2596530
it's not, read the thread.
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>>2596937
Because Hiro is too retarded to know one of the core reasons 4chan got made in the first place. Remember, Moot fucked off from Somethingawful to create this website, and you know this type of bullshit is almost exactly what they try to pull with the whole "pay to post" bullshit.
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>phoneposters seething on every board

Based. Thanks Hiromoot.
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>>2596957
This should be updated
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I'm just stopping by to say: ABIB, you're a fucking semen-drunk, AIDS-ridden,salad-dodging nigger. try doing your fucking job instead of carrying on crusades on shit you don't like and maybe one day you'll have enough self-confidence to pull the trigger
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>>2596965
What did he do
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can someone explain? so phoneposters will have to login to post?
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>>2596986
I'm on my PC and it's still asking me to log in before I post.
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"First they came for the phoneposters, and I didn't say anything, because I was not a phoneposter."
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>>2579226
What the fuck are you fucking thinking?
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>>2597002
Literally nothing wrong with that.
>muh slippery slope, they'll come for you- I mean "us" next!
Okay then I'll leave. Until then I will enjoy the higher quality discussions.
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>>2597010
Look, this slippery slope is not far-fetched. We all know how much of a greedy cunt Hiro is. It's honestly more likely than not that he eventually forces this on desktop users as well.
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>>2581363
fixed
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>Hiro distrusted in Japan for selling user info
>"HEY GUYS, GIVE ME YOUR EMAIL FOR THE NEW LOGIN FEATURE!"
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>>2597037
I wonder how many of the assholes shilling this bullshit in this very thread are in Hiro's pocket.
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Based gook killing the site, I will finally be free!
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>hiro will soon kill 4chan
best thing you've ever done gook
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You guys are saying the website hasn't been practically dead for years? The only way Hiro could completely screw up, is if you had to buy a pass to post on every board from every device.
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i love big dog dicks put me in the screenshot OwO
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>>2596540
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>>2579226
fuck you
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>>2597314
Please stop posting.
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>>2579226
why are you such a bad person?
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>8gaggers are being mad right now over the whole p.4chan beta and thinking it's the "death" of 4chan
>They didn't realize that the p.4chan domain is only for phoneposters that need to a pass to shitpost on p.4chan
>They're also mad about the "new" report system that would probably get ignored by everyone including the mods
Why is 8gag such a pathetic "imageboard" that think they are smart at all? Don't they realize that they one time pre-ordered an imageboard with that infinity next platform?
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>>2597480
Why are you obsessed with some imageboard with like 12 users posting 8 posts a day?
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>>2597438
We could better understand the situation if we understood why shitposters, trolls and ban evaders are such bad people. Start at the bottom then work our way up the chain, so we can understand why Hiro would do this.
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>>2597480
>>8gaggers are being mad right now over the whole p.4chan beta and thinking it's the "death" of 4chan
because moot was right about protest sites not having a culture beyond being "against 4chan"
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>>2597550
What was 4chans culture except being against 2ch?

For the longest time your posts would get deleted if you even implied moot just lifted the image board code
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>>2597630
>For the longest time your posts would get deleted if you even implied moot just lifted the image board code
Fake news
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>What was 4chans culture except being against 2ch?
4chan's early culture was essentially a fusion of goon culture and whatever they could glean for 2chan, not 2ch
and they weren't "against" the imageboards that preceded 4chan. The difference being is that when GG was banned, most of 8gag's loudest supporters vowed to leave and never return to "cuckchan" while being fixated on what's been happening on 4chan and how much better they are this this place. To the best of my knowledge this really did happen when 4chan's genesis.
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>>2579226
Works on my end, but it looks ugly and bloated.
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Hiro if you turn 4chan into a social media website for normalfags and if i have to log in to use this place and have an account i am never coming here again go fuck yourself faggot.
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>>2597694
>i am never coming here again
that's what you said last time lol
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>>2597697
>that's what you said last time lol

Well i mean it this time because i do not want anonymity taken away.
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>>2597707
>i do not want anonymity taken away.
Absolutely stunning reading comprehension.
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>>2597630
Do you people just make up the most ridiculous, insane bullshit possible to tell newfags?
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>>2581489

DO NOT advertise that place on here we do not want normalfags and underage kids on there fuck off.
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>>2597734
everyone here already knows about 8gag moron, when your ilk loudly stormed out proclaiming never to come back 3 years ago in attempt to get as many people as possible you already put the spotlight on yourself.
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>>2597739

At least the site is still slow and has not fully been taken over by edgy kids and normalfags i don't think they wanna hangout with a bunch of pedophiles zoo faggots and social outcast losers anyway.
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kek
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>>2597128
>turning shitposting into a profitable business-model
what a time to be alive
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>>2597852
here lies p.4channel, hiro never profited
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>>2597802
twitter and other social media sites have been around for a while.
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>targetting phoneposters with bullshit instead of the general populace
based
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>>2597857
never drew a dime
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Somehow this is a lot worse than the normal mobile layout.
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>>2581597
there is literally a very easy-to-find button in the options menu of mobile chrome that does this
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>>2597877
>he thinks this will only affect mobileposters when we already found stuff for keyboard bindings
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>>2583430
iPhones can't play webms, what are you going to do about that? That's my biggest problem with using 4chan on mobile right now
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>>2598037
>$1500
>can't play libre video-formats
yikes.
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To add onto the discussion as to why 8gag fell, the entire site is filled with GG/Trump newfags who pretend they were from 2012-era 4chan. If you go against the fold you’ll eat a dozen sagebombs and a 3 day ban.
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>>2598079
Based gamerfate
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>>2598079
I have personal reasons to passionately hate a small corner of that website. Never, ever, EVER let a random, immature, casual fan of something, have anything to do with moderation of that fanbase.
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>>2598079
>entire site is filled with GG/Trump newfags who pretend they were from 2012-era 4chan
so just like here with /tv/, /v/, /pol/...
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>>2598079
It's impressive how a place that thrived on the idea that this place was dead became such an anti-fun shithole
the only place I can frecuently visit from there is /bane/, and that's just because their sheer dedication is commendable
>>2598112
>I have personal reasons to passionately hate a small corner of that website.
have any story to share? just curious
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>>2598133
All I have to say is that rules allowing shitposting of the topic of a board, means there's a real moron in charge. It means they don't care about the topic, and will do anything for a reply.
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>>2597813
Get killed in pain
https://derpibooru.org/1953258
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>that horrible UI
>implying account based will be in the future
I am floored and simply at a loss for words.
Hiro, if you even read these, for the love of everything that is sacred, do not do this. This will 100 percent kill the site.
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>I want to make money off 4chan by making not 4chan anymore
What did chinkmoot mean by this?
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>>2598188
Well, 4chan has been historically a non profitable website, so the logic is sound at least.
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>>2598206
>I'm going to buy a historically non-profitable website to make a profit
What did chinkmoot mean by this?
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>>2581264
>this is your idea of quality posting
Whew, sure glad you aren't posting from your phone or that could have been worse
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>>2598161
>screenshot 2013
>6 years ago and still seething
imagine being barneyfag
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>>2579226
this is garbage. please sell the site to someone else that will not infect it with as much cancer.
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>>2579226
I AM FREE BROS, I AM FINALLY FREE FROM THE SHITHOLE THAT IS THIS WEBSITE. GOD DAMMIT
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>>2598240
Retarded newfag
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Isn't it easier to ask for donations? Just like Wikipedia does, instead of having this shitty malicious ads from Jewgle and powerad bots? Looks like you're trying to sabotage the chan on purpose, asshole.
Why are you hiding so much, human dirt? Face criticism like the man you biologically are, instead of hiding like the cuck you and your whole nation is and are, you piece of utter crap.
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>>2598240
what is a rolling sticky?
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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT
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>Hiro distrusted in Japan for selling user info
>"HEY GUYS, GIVE ME YOUR EMAILS FOR THIS NEW ACCOUNT SYSTEM!"
Yeah, the second this is implemented, I'm outta here.
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So when is this being implemented
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>>2597495
Nah, I'm just want to laugh at those fags because they somehow think they're better than "cuckchan" when all of the good to decent posters left 8gag for good and now that "imageboard" is on the biggest downward spiral of all time.
>>2597550
Not only that but 8gag still somehow still get users on their site despite that place just being the "we're not 4chan" imageboard.
>>2581489
>8gag
>Anonymity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSpCj1_fT6s
>>2598079
May I also add that the only group of anons on 8gag that wanted to be different from 4chan, /intl/, was killed off by the admins, mods, and Hot(head)Wheels themselves because /intl/ know that they were massive rulecucks and /intl/ tried to warned the rest of 8gag about the rulecucked admins & mods. But unfortunately, the rest of 8gag didn't listened to /intl/ and now 8gag is a ghosttown of an "imageboard". Plus, 8gags didn't really had any "oldfags" at all but rather lots of newfags that came from the 2007-2010 era of 4chan and one from gamergay.
>>2598133
>It's impressive how a place that thrived on the idea that this place was dead became such an anti-fun shithole
That's what 8gag gets for taking the "redpill" in the first place.
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>>2598079
>when all of the good to decent posters left 8gag for good and now that "imageboard" is on the biggest downward spiral of all time.
> If you go against the fold you’ll eat a dozen sagebombs and a 3 day ban.
The fall of 8ch is just the fall of 7chan 2.0, the only time it saw an increase in users due to GG, /pol/ harbor, and a bit of a bump in the leadup to the 2016 election. But other than that it really didn't have much to offer.

>8gag is a ghosttown of an "imageboard".
I'm sad that most of the smaller communities that I used to frequent there are either dead entirely or much slower than they were when I first visited. There were some boards there to actually like if you didn't want to deal with hotdud being chums with the BOs of the big legacy boards.
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please ban twitter screencaps
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>>2598827
How do I find Q
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>>2579226
why the fuck do i have to login to post shit?
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Hey Hiro you fucking retarded nigger let me give you a suggestion.
Have the save feature be a feature of 4chan pass and only use the login for 4chan passes.
Do NOT make people login just to post, even if it's just on p4, because that's fucking stupid and goes against what this site was founded on.
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>>2599063
making phonefags register and account and login would serve as a great barrier to the kind of effortless repeat ban evasion they pull. even better if they make mobile usage of the site a pass perk so repeat ban evasion is not only time consuming but costly as well
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>>2598693
Board creation really didn’t help in most cases. It was typically used as an excuse for mods to brush off any and all criticism by telling you to make your own subredd- I mean board on a site where no board has had 4,000 users in over 3 years and no more than 3,000 in a year. Subreddits only work because Reddit has like 100k+ users 24/7 and you only need some kind of idea to post about all day to get decent traction.
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>>2579226
works fine for me
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>>2599077
For a site supposedly about "free speech" 8fag has control freak shitmoderation so shit-tier it actually makes here look good.
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>>2598079
>who pretend they were from 2012-era 4chan
the fact that this is something that people aspire to be completely and utterly fucking blows my mind
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why every time i open this thread the initial posts are different?
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>>2599185
Because you're a newfag
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>>2599077
Board creation on 8ch has only been useful in a handful of cases, its absolutely batshit that the site has over 10000 boards, while at best it had about 1/10 of 4chan's daily posts in 2015. While this place is still double digits.

If 8 was constrained to about a dozen boards it probably would have been for the better, even if that wouldn't have solved a lot of other problems

>>2599163
>>2598079
much of 8gag is 2012-2014 newfags, why else would the site's 2nd largest board be a bunch of /v/irgins more concerned with politics than vidya. Also for a userbase that constantly lambasts this place as reddit, they conveniently ignore that a lot of redditors came to 4chan after GG got banned on reddit also decided to go to 8gag with them from the beginning.

>>2599130
I remember it becoming apparent mark on 8/v/ was horrendously arbitrary, and ikampfy on /pol/ really dropping the ball after /pol/ got a large surge of users after /pol/ harbor. One of my friends was a /pol/ vol on 8 and saw how many of the post-december /pol/acks were pretending to have started using 4chan in 2004 to work thier way onto that boards mod team, and then proceded to ban anything and anything they didn't like. I remember them deleting a thread about new developments in the russian military as well as many posts that simply disagreed as "shilling."

iirc it was around march/April of 2015 that 8/sp/ had lost about half its users because hotdud had take the board from its initial owner, which precipitated a lot of drama over the next few months, while the site languished.
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>>2579226
Looks good as a first draft of what a new 4chan interface could look like, but it has some issues:
- Gifs don't open;
- Catalog looks like cancer, please consider expanding the thread side bar so you can actually read the thread from the catalog;
- Consider making the User/Fav Thread bar a drawer, it's really intrusive and offers nothing towards the actual browsing experience;
- Same thing with the thread bar, while you can read threads just fine once you're focused on them it's not practical to always stare at the catalog/thread list especially when you're not thread browsing or are in a NSFW board full of dicks;
- Keyboard shortcuts are an interesting addition but the speed at which you can browse with them does not nearly match the speed at which you can reply. 4chan doesn't run on instant replies so the autistic keyboard browsing will probably only be used in porn boards;
- Still on the topic of shortcuts, I'd suggest making shortcuts for bottom, top and refresh (not F5). Perhaps even a quote/reply shortcut.

Then there's pic related and the email logins...
I get that it's a closed beta so you don't want everyone to use the website just yet but this is definitely a feature not worth keeping unless you want to piss off retards or develop a 4chan desktop/mobile app.

And I have to say, this looks a lot like the design for an app, albeit not as fluid as you'd want one to be, which might not be a bad thing if that's what you're actually cooking up; but only if this actually offers an improved 4chan experience besides 'better' UI and ergonomic shortcuts. Please come up with some new features or miss me with that shit, there's already 4chan browsing apps out there and they suck.

If this is a ploy for making the 4chan pass more appealing then go right ahead, just don't expect people to want to pay you for literally offering nothing new.
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>>2599231
The ability to create new boards on the fly, coupled with the fact that Gamergate getting banned was a fucking retarded reason to leave in the first place, is precisely the reason why 8ch failed to overtake 4chan in popularity. 4chan didn't die when Project Chanology got banned, why in the everloving fuck would the banning of Gamergate kill it?
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>>2599280
It wouldn't, both chanology and anti-chanology were minority groups of the userbase in the grand scheme of things, they were just big enough to fuck up /b/, but not really a significant loss in the userbase once they were driven off.

Same thing with GG.
Sure there were notable fractions of /v/, /b/ and, /pol/ that were mad enough to leave, but that maybe amounted to about a few percent (at best) of 4chan's userbase leaving or just wanted to use an alternative in addition to 4chan for whatever reason.
I remember doing some back of the envelope calculations and estimated that 8gag was lucky if it got about 5% the userbase that 4chan did at the time. It's doubtlessly far lower now, even without the influx of electionfags here, because 8 has withered to about 25k posts/day instead of the 70k-80k posts/day the site had 4 years ago
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>>2599302
Gg broke moot or should i say luggage lad
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>>2599308
>GG broke luggage lad
This has always been a rather moot point, because even if that is true, that's largely irrelevant when it comes to the persistence of a site's userbase.
If the fortitude of the admin is a proxy for the success of the site, its not wonder why 8gag has fizzled out, since it only took about a year of drama for hotwheels to grow distant from the site and to ultimately be replaced. GG had pretty much fizzled out by spring of 2015, the last notable thing I can remember being that hilariously bad SVU episode.
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FIX THE SITE YOU MONGOLOID
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>>2599280
Whatever your opinion of Chanology, they just left and did their own thing on their own forum after that.

There was no "muh Jews" or "muh SJWs" autism.

I think most of the sensible GGers (yeah I know) more or less did that too.
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>>2599492
Thatsbecause they were bluepilled
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>>2579226
At 4chan, we're all "beta" testers...
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>>2599720
nigger
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>>2599492
In both of those cases they moved elsewhere because they had no choice, save for "shekel shoah," if they could have stay on 4chan they would have.
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>>2579226
>create-react-app
Hope you didn't need SEO.
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>react@16.6.1 but no code-splitting and no error boundaries
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>>2598988
HOW HARD IS IT FOR YOU FAGS TO NOT SHILL YOUR SHITTY TODDLERS' SHOW

And before you fags start implying,
it's a gif, and if you load it and wait long enough (10 minutes), it turns into pic related.
Or if you open the gif in Photoshop, GIMP, Preview, etc. it can show both frames immediately.
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>>2579226
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING!!!!!????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>2599996
furcel
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You can kiss your 4chan pass goodbye if you seriously do this.
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What the absolute fucking crap is this? Please no.
I HATE THIS SHIT
I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE IT
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>>2599996
She cute.
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HIIRRROOOO
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fuck you leave my 4chan alone you fucking gook pile of shit
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time to go to 8han
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Fuck niggers
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PFFFFAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
OHNOONONOONONONOONONON
EHEHEHEHHEHEHEHEE
JAJAJAJJAJAJAJJAJAJAJ
XAXAXAXXAXAXAXAXAXAXA
HOIHOIHOIHOIHOIHOIHOIHOI
ACKACKACKACKACKACK
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So we finally getting rid of degenerates?
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the end is near, i can feel it
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this motherfucker is literally turning 4chan into reddit
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>>2599723
Go on....
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>>2600147
Why are you always a fucking brainlet
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>>2579226
Fuck off and die you cocksucker
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>>2600148
Finally I's be free.
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See this Hiro? Your garbage will never work. CHOKE ON MY DICK AND DIE YOU CHINKSHIT RETARDED JEW
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>>2579226
Fuck your new features. I have a 4chan pass and won't buy another if this is the way forward for 4chan.
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>>2579226
>Register
spill the beans motherfucker are any organization paying you for ruining the site? the mods and jannies are bad enough already
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>>2600264
Yes
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>I live to see 4chan finally die
Feels good bros. I saw the writing on the wall with the way moderation has been allowed to continue for awhile now. Feels fucking good that this shit will die an inglorious death and the autism will ebb across the rest of the internet as it once did. Pre-2005ish internet culture may yet return. I'm hopeful.
So speed it up Hiroshima, nuke this fucker like we nuked Nagasaki already.
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>>2600312
Not yet
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>>2600312
>Pre-2005ish internet culture
Around that time you could talk and write on peace because there wasn't any retarded fear to offend someone by some nonsense or excuse, so is not really good getting rid of 4chan
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>>2600334
>implying it hasn't been gone for awhile now
k.
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>>2579226
what the fuck is this shit
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>>2579226
What the hell?
That looks exactly like the modern web design garbage that I come here to get away from.
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The only beta test we want to see is the removal of all the cancer JS. Fuck logins, fuck accounts, this is an anonymous imageboard and nothing more.
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>>2599280
>4chan didn't die when Project Chanology got banned
I distinctly remember the gamergaters being angry because, unlike their own crusade, Chanology wasn't banned.
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>>2600430
Well, they were wrong, because it was, and that's why they went and started offsite forums, some of which still exist today.
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>>2579226
hiroyuki you cocksucker

explain why your tranny mods are banning people for discussing the firing of a DBZ voice actor in the general thread for DBZ.
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>>2600443
On v the mod banned a guy for joking about killing a dog in a game. It really shows that they have no idea how to moderate.
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>>2600430
>Chanology wasn't banned.
imagine being this new
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>>2598037
>Falling for the Apple meme
You deserve everything bad that happens to you.
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>>2600456
They have literally thousands of idiots willing to mod for free and somehow pick people who should be in a special needs group home every time.
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>>2583487
>Try actually making an argument against it.
>Posts using Anonymous rather than your email, often used online handle to grab leaked databases to grab your IP and find your location with that information
haha ya no argument huh nigger
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I like you, Hiro. Thank you for making our website even better!
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>>2600458
Although I came in 2008, I remember nothing of chanology. I was here for the hobby boards and almost never visited /b/.
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>>2598079
>How to expose yourself as the actual radditor
lmfao
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Even if this didnt set up a dangerous precedent the layout is actually bad looking
Just because its happening to phoneposters doesnt mean it cant happen to everyone
Dont give an inch
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>>2600467
Kill yourself hiro, also stop fucking trannies, they are disgusting abominations
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>>2600474
Go on, expose me. Everyone knows what I said is true even most people who ever visited 8ch would agree with my analysis.
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HAHAHA SERIOUSLY WTF
DO YOU THINK PEOPLE WHO VISITS 4CHAN WILL EVEN PRESS AN "I AGREE" BUTTON?
Oh well, when this applied finally I can be free from this shithole
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>>2600529
Maybe he could make it a "fucking kill yourself" button instead.
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>>2600534
Kek
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>>2582291
>archives are cancer
Spoken like a true shill
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I'm a brainlet please explain what's happening
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>>2600614
Bans will be more difficult to evade.
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>>2600640
That's the ideal outcome, but since this is just Hiro testing out new ways to jew the users, don't expect anything less than mediocrity and disappointment
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>>2600642
If Hiro had any legitimate business sense, he'd do what makes the website better for the allowed topics. But he was dumb enough to try to put malicious and porn ads up everywhere. If you're always skirting around the main issues, you will never accomplish anything.
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Personally I'd like to see a 4chan where you have to register with an account before posting. Make an account (no need to put your real info), log in into the site and post under anonymous. Since we are using an account to post, captcha wouldn't be necessary, because if you are caught shitposting your account could be blocked and banned.

Also the mod staff could review and approve accounts before letting the registered users post on the site and this could discourage shitposting and ban evading since it could take a while to be allowed to post again.

In short:
No account system
>Shitpost
>Get banned
>Reset IP
>Shitpost again
>Rinse and repeat

Account system
>Force obligaotry registration before posting
>Make an account
>Post freely
>If some faggot is shitposting ban his account
>The faggot obviously will make a new account
>The account takes a while to be approved
>Shitposters get discouraged waiting by the account's approval


>M-muh anonymity
You aren't really anonymous, did you know that?

>M-muh freeze peach
4chan isn't a democracy
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>>2600649
the only response you will get to this is
>gb2 /reddit/
or
>muh anonymity it goes against da spirit of duh site
It's better than doing absolutely fucking nothing like what has been happening for the past several years. the only way it would be any better is if on top of all this phone/mobile fags had to pay for a pass to post. Adds another barrier to repeat ban evasion shitposting, reduces the amount of low quality 'contribution' from phoneposters altogether, and makes them pay the lion's share of the site's revenue as reparations for the garbage they've polluted it with for the past several years.
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>>2600676
>the only way it would be any better is if on top of all this phone/mobile fags had to pay for a pass to post
you do get thats kind of the whole theory behind the nu-4channel hes made, right? he's going to clean up desktop 4chan literally overnight. since most of the retards phoneposting on the site are normies and wont know how to get to desktop 4chan. it'll be good for half a year before this gooky slope ports nu-channel over to desktop and forces desktop users to pay to post.
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>>2600649
with the current level of moderation this would be fucking awful especially on /v/
I hate shitposters as much as the next guy but this would be heavily exploitable by moderators like how it already is on other sites.
if a shitposter gets too out of hand he gets ip banned or rangebanned or people just learn to ignore them (i,e Horizonfag)
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>>2600649
>Registration with aproval
Go back to r*ddit
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>>2600686
The real solution is gutting much of the current group that moderates/janitors /v/. A lot of them will intentionally leave fap threads/posts up.
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>>2600693
This, daily reminder that tranny jannies are in the same bed with the discord faggots, everyone knows this, i think hiro is on the same boat at this point
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>>2579226
Listen Hiro you're probably not going to see my post but can you set your priorities straight?
>filter the words: Incel and yikes to anything, I'm tired of seeing this shit spammed by redditors, reseterafags, tumblr freaks, etc.
>FIX THE FUCKING CAPTCHA, WE DON'T NEEED TO SOLVE 6 FUCKING PANELS TO POST AND SOMETIMES IT WONT LET ME DO THE DAMN THING FOR SOME REASON
>The janitors and mods are out of control and need to be more lenient. Let the anons self police like in /a/. Hell /a/ is one of the best boards because it's pretty clear that the anons are the ones enforcing the rules
>abolish rule 3, people say nigger and other shit all the time, no need to ban people. also there's no need for a ban if you participate in an off topic thread, BAN OP INSTEAD

I have no goddamn idea if you will see or even understand this shit, but you got to improve this damn place
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>>2600702
"Incel" is overused, but it is an accurate way to describe some people and the way they act about sexuality.
It reminds me of how "Literally" was overused around here years ago.
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>>2600649
>mods fuck me in the ass plz plz
Why do you go to 4chan if you only want it to be a Reddit clone? Kill yourself
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>>2600715
I dont care, if I can't say soi or soi boi, then these reddit shits don't have the right to spam yikes and incel
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>>2600729
I get your point, but don't be a hypocrite by singling out a website. I guarantee you Reddit users aren't the only people who spam it.
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>>2600732
Incel came from reddit, aka r/lncels. And after the Toronto attack that word started popping up everywhere
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>>2600734
A word can originate from somewhere, but that doesn't mean the original users of the word are the only users now.
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>>2600735
I don't care, it's part of the big fucking cancer that is the reddit userbase, go back there then. I'm fucking tired of the mods coddling these faggots
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>>2600736
Now you're focusing on a website instead of the finer details that actually bother you. Remember: I do agree that spamming phrases everywhere is bad for the quality of the website.
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>>2600740
I have every right to attack them because they keep demanding everything to be like their shithole, just like illegals or Califags
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>>2600744
I'm only responding to let you know I'm not interested in the conversation anymore.
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>>2600745
Get lost faggot, go back to your shithole of a website
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>>2600702
>>2600729
>>2600734
>>2600736
>Reddit Reddit Reddit Reddit
How about just banning people for using "yikes" or "incel" and filter "Reddit"?
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>>2582732
Like what? It's going to splinter into the memechans which will suffer from noposters or crush the site under the hosting costs
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>>2583360
User accounts wouldn't do shit to a spammer or a ban evader who would just pre-emptively make e-mails because unlike normies they'd know they're going to be a shithead and they can easily setup a script to automate the entire process. Stop helping jewgook push a system where bad bans are going to be going through to farm cash which is the fucking endgame.
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>>2600427
This, MAKE 4CHAN LIBRE AGAIN!
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>>2600702
>/a/ is one of the best boards because it's pretty clear that the anons are the ones enforcing the rules
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You actually believe this?
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>>2600814
/a/ is one of the most delusional board on this site
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>>2600936
why
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>>2600936
Only people who don't use /a/ call it good because of the reputation it used to have.
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Gook Moot really needs to off himself. Piece of shit.
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>>2600649
Nobody would buy passus if they weren't forced to solve meme-captchas. Bad for businessu.
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>>2579226
>>2583397
It only took 1 gook to kill all of 4chan
Nice job, very based
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k shishkadongle madongle a cockle peepeey penisbenis poopy homogay poopy
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>>2600649
Brainlets like you consider anything that disagrees with your idiotic opinions to be "shitposting."

Nobody else fucking likes scummy little snitch bitches like you and if we were going to get rid of anyone, it would be people like you.
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>>2599996
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This fucking retarded gook makes the site worse and worse with every post he makes.

I also had to click fucking traffic lights 7 times to post this
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>>2582411
fuck off to another site cunt
youve been the minority from the start
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Will this new 4chan mean that I won't have go through 7 captcha walls? (half of which don't work)
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>>2600798
>User accounts wouldn't do shit to a spammer or a ban evader
Except, waste their time setting up new accounts when they get banned

>who would just pre-emptively make e-mails because unlike normies they'd know they're going to be a shithead and they can easily setup a script to automate the entire process.
This would be very easy to spot and easy to nip in the bud, I used to a run a forum and mass signups like this that were obvious precursors to spam attacks were easy to mitigate, the forum software I used even had a feature to automatically detect and warn admins about this kind of shenanigans.
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>>2600681
He's already said using the new version will be optional though
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Why are you niggers still using this site and not 8ch? Do you like getting cucked everyday?
>shitty filesize limit while 8ch has 16 MB
>have to make soundless webms for most boards for literally no reason
>can't post vp9 webms for literally no reason
>captcha almost every time you post instead of once per 24 hours
>can't use TOR
>can't post multiple files at once
>can't make your own board
>no IDs on boards like /v/ to spot samefags
>shitty janitors who ban you for posting a NSFW pic even when spoilered
>can't embed sites like jewtube in your posts
I could go on but I honestly don't understand why you faggots like getting cucked.
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>>2600691
>>2600720
>>2601365

SEETHING shitposters scared of being unable to shitpost.

Better start to delete those folders with pepe and wojack pictures
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>>2602050
KEK
>being this deluded
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>>2602048
>>can't post multiple files at once
>>can't embed sites like jewtube in your posts
I fail to see how these are that important, sure they make somethings easier, but they're not the end all be all.

>>can't make your own board
I can never understand why this was always considered a selling point after enough time had passed for it become apparent that all this feature does is spread the userbase out too thinly and results in tens thousands of dead boards on a site that isn't even as lively as it was 4 years ago.
8ch got about 70k or 80k posts on a good day this time 4 years ago, but now it only gets about 25k, so its not like the site is active enough to support another board,
Furthermore this feature consistently failed in regard to oft touted aspect that it would allow people to move with their feet in regards to moderation.

But that last point aside, what's the use of adding another dead board to the pile of more than 16000 other dead boards on that site?


8gag may have a lot of technical innovations, but the ability to attach another 4 images to a post or having a 16MB file limit, does not a community make.
While having working and useful features is important, an imageboard is much more than just its nuts and bolts.
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>>2602050
I'm not the one writing giant textwalls defending cuckoldry.
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Imagine defending an imageboard where you have to click 12 storefronts every time you want to post and get banned just for saying nigger.
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>>2602134
Imagine not reading the rules, most have which have been in their current incarnation for over a decade, and then get butthurt when you get banned for derailing threads on a blue boards
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>>2602169
Shut up nigger.
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>>2602180
No u.
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>>2579226
Tomorrow theme when?
Also thank you based Hiro, hopefully you ban all mobile IPs on the regular 4chan and phone posters are forced to lurk or buy a pass so they can't shitpost relentlessly anymore.
Thank you for saving the website from the zoomer menace
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I don't understand the phoneposter meme
How do you know that shitposters are phoneposters, and that phoneposting is correlated with shitposting?
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>>2602311
It's just a dumb may may.

Or maybe not. Any time you see filenames generated by phones the person posting them is almost always some fucking subhuman.

Okay maybe there's something to it.
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>>2602326
>the person posting them is almost always some fucking subhuman
Seething
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>>2602326
It just seems really out of touch and completely inferred yet it's accepted as gospel truth
A lot of things feel like that even more than five years ago when it all seemed like a joke (and I understand the irony of those feelings, mainly the fact that they are also out of touch and inferred, which only makes me more confused) and it's freaking me out
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>>2602311
When someone is posting from their phone they:
Have a very small screen to work with, so they don't have a comfortable way of typing, which makes the more likely to make short, low-quality posts.
Are likely to be out of their home or doing something else that takes their attention away from conversation on the internet, reducing the quality of their posts.
Are able to evade bans very easily.
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>>2602334
Nice pasta
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>>2581716
this one's for you lee
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>>2602048
>>shitty filesize limit while 8ch has 16 MB
no one wants to take half a minute to load a single image, no one wants to see a wall of images on your post either
>>have to make soundless webms for most boards for literally no reason
because this is an IMAGE board, not a movie clips board
>>can't post vp9 webms for literally no reason
I'll give you this one
>>captcha almost every time you post instead of once per 24 hours
because 8gag doesn't have a chronic problem with autists using scripts and botnets to flood entire boards with crap like 4chan does, mainly because 8gag is fuckin dead
>>can't use TOR
because of autists spamming CP to shut down threads
>>can't post multiple files at once
see my response to your first point
>>can't make your own board
8gag already proves why this is a shit idea
>>no IDs on boards like /v/ to spot samefags
yeah because discussion would sure be improved by >1 post by this id and constant calling of samefag, also anyone who cared would just cycle their IP or swap between phone and desktop to samefag anyways, just like they do on /pol/ (and in the case of /pol/ shill already have enough disposable IPs and use 'personality management' software, such that ID is totally useless against them)
>>shitty janitors who ban you for posting a NSFW pic even when spoilered
you aren't supposed to do that anyways
>>can't embed sites like jewtube in your posts
You can though, it's just not automatically embedded

tl;dr go back to 8gag if you hate it here so much. none of these 'features' are worth shit anyways since your site is dead after all the assmad after goobergrapes being kicked out died off
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>>2602357
>no argument
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>>2596524
Hi
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>>2602407
Gay
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>>2602402
Thank you for that post, a lot of people are going to enjoy it.
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>>2602048
Can't password protect my board or make it unlisted
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>>2602499
why would you want that
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>>2602402
You seem like the seething assmad one with this tl;dr brain dump.
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>>2579226
Just tried it, it's genuinely awful, and the concept is stupid at the core. You really expect people to pay to post here? That's how you kill the site, idiot.
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>>2597707
You never had it, faggot.

>>2597733
I mean, if this happened in 2010, I would call you a newfag, but it really did happen.
moot was a touchy little bitch in the early days.
Why do you think snacks got kicked out?
Moot was an impatient little fuckwit who demanded way too much of Snacks and he finally just said "ye know what fuck it" and left.
They were still friends for years afterwards, but they almost stopped being friends over that shit.
That's why he stepped away, it was straining their relationship.
It's why I don't do shit for my friends website beyond helping financially and maybe occasionally some FUN ideas. But ain't coding shit again. No way.

>>2599308
It never so much broke him, but revealed his true colors of becoming a college-cuck and blending in with the SJW-culture that stinks those places out.
I'm all for a generally liberal society as long as it does not hurt others, but FUCK SJWs so much.
Moot became the latter.
He lost a massive amount of respect for me for hanging with those types.

>>2600334
People still got turbo triggered back then often.
See "ebaumsworld" and /gif/ vs YTMND citation wars.
It's just now the ability to offend can now come with a jail sentence compared to yesterdecade.

>>2600430
Chanology was hyper banned.
Threads barely lasted minutes before they got kicked off.
They all left and made some shitty forum called Enturbulation or something.
I remember trolling the shit out of the ones using Drawball by drawing swastikas over their shitty XENU logo, turning letters in to dicks and calling out people on the forum directly. (mainly the ones being the most triggered)
Fun times.
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>>2602407
I love the Sagura :DDDD

I am not looking forward to tidying up my mess of files.
And for some fucking reason my file-dupe detection is not working correctly, despite it working correctly the last time I checked it! WHY?!
Literally the most trivial file duplicate detection in existence, somehow it now breaks.
Raging infinity suns.

>>2602460
I enjoyed it so much I printed it to use as lube.
wat
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>>2579226
Every idea you present here is worse than the last one, it's actually incredible. Never thought I'd see the day when 4chan accounts started to be a thing.
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>>2599308
Good old Luggage Lad, the CEO of Troll Inc. I still remember how it was discovered he was the friend of some jewish Gawker employee and was paying for her vacations or some shit. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think /sp/ and /pol/ parading this around and inciting his wrath was the reason cuck became such a widespread insult.
But anyway, wasn't it the legal trouble that the Fappening what really broke him? GG was just icing on the cake.
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>>2579226
>and was paying for her vacations or some shit.
lmao
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>>2603879
Eh?
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>>2602048
They take things way too seriously, specially if they're related with politics. At least here most people can take it easy.
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>>2603990
nah
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>>2603990
>They take things way too seriously,
Abolsutely, I remember 8/pol/ becoming very serious after /pol/-harbor here to the point where they were banning primarily on topic threads and opinions they just disagreed with.

>At least here most people can take it easy.
I wish
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Kek
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>>2582561
Based and redpilled
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pon
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>>2602048
8ch lacks the numbers and legitimacy to make it a truly good board. Also, the admins are fucking jokes who let CP run rampant. Also, open board creation isn't necessarily a good thing.

They do have some good boards tho.
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>>2604703
>8ch lacks the numbers and legitimacy to make it a truly good board
Its not that it dosen't lack the numbers to be a lively site, its just that its spread out too thin.
If 8ch was condensed down into maybe about a dozen or so boards you would actually have a fairly active community, but the board creation feature undermines this by preventing boards to attain a critical density of users.

The Administration there was always a joke, and still is after Jim took over entirely.

>They do have some good boards tho.
Its a shame though since most of the medium sized communities that i liked there have few years.
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>>2598988
>>2599996
31 minutes
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>>2602048
8ch fucking died after the 2016 election, it's simply way too fucking slow to be your primary site. Was nice for the 2 years up until then though.
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>>2579226
So when is this gonna go live?
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The biggest example of 8ch board creation failing is Imkamfy. Want to imagine /pol/ moderated by a /pol/ user with unchecked and limitless authority? Pre-June 2018 /pol/ is what it looks like. Shit on Trump for any reason? Month long ban. Criticize the Republican Party? Month long ban. Shit on Putin? Take a guess. If he disliked you, you were gone. He brought the board from about 2500 on avg users down to 2000 on avg. One day he went ballistic and banned 400 users — one fifth of his board and despite having the option of board creation the admins had to step in by basically telling him to cut that shit out. Imkamfy decided to ban Codemonkey the site admin and it was clear to Codemonkey that only one thing could be done. The site was globalized like /n/ and at one point /b/.
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I think it's a weird question but I'm looking for a video about a girl who turned into an alien to fight against a talking and floating ice cream and the title of that episode is just desserts is from a halloween special but forget the name of that cartoon and someone knows the name of that cartoon and an image about that please
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>>2605544
>The biggest example of 8ch board creation failing is Imkamfy
The worst moderation i've seen on 8/pol/ was right after the /pol/ harbor. Many of the people moot drove there were some of the most obnoxious faggots ever to post on an imageboard. I had an IRC friend who was one of the board vols at the time, and he saw how many of those that decided to jump ship in December 2014 decided to get into the 8/pol/ irc channel and were saying that they deserved to be a mod because they were 2004 oldfags. It ultimately lead to the mods banning anything and everything as shilling in early 2015, causing the board to drop from 3300 IPs to maybe about a little over 2500.
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>>2605544
Cripplepol is still full of schizos and terrible moderation, if you say anything about the NW front, or just try and banter you receive bans. In all honesty the whole idea cripplechan is based around is terrible.
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>>2605381
Unlike this place 8ch was always terrble, from creation to its current state.
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>>2605544
Imkikey*
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Can we have an option to filter by region on posts with this as well? I think any options for self moderation would improve everyones experience without having an impact on others.
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>>2579226
>>2583327
>>2583339
>>2583396
>>2583397
>>2583402
>>2583425
>>2583426
>>2583430
>>2583489
>>2583491
>>2583856
eat shit and die
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>>2606893
OWNAGE
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>>2606907
Kek
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STOP BULLSHITING AROUND AND START BANNING THOSE basketball americans WHO KEEP POSTING LINUS THREADS 24/7 ON /g/, YOU FUCKING CHINESE BOTNET
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>>2607595
no
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>host my own imageboard
>spam it a bit
>0 users 2 weeks later
fug
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>>2608569
If you wanted to get a userbase via spamming you should've spammed it for much more than a bit. Optimally, you should have spammed at least until other users are doing it for you if not for longer. Another good idea would be to post links EVERYWHERE that way it would get around quicker. Anway, I'm sure things will work out just keep at it rome wasn't built in a day, you know.
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>>2608640
worked for kimmo alm
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>>2608569
What's your site? I'll put it in the extra section of kissu.moe's board list
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unlist /qa/
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>>2608569
I hate when people spam, and when someone spam something I immediately block it and call on others to do the same.
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>>2609430
Doesn't matter. The damage has been done.
Delete /qa/
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>>2583404
He didn't misunderstood shit, is one of the shills from the other board.

Fuck the CIAniggers at 8gag and fuck stormfront.
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>>2610439
schizo
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>>2610457
t. ban evading shill
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hey hiro test my cock please lmao
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>>2579226
>all shonenshit
Yup, that's all /a/ now. Fucking wonderful.
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>>2610574
Kek
>>
test
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Fire and replace every mod/janitor/developer/whoever that was active on /v/ today.
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>>2612848
>Fire and replace every mod/janitor/developer/whoever
could have stopped there and been right still
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>>2612872
/v/ has been worse than usual today, but moderation has been somewhat active because they've been removing some things while leaving up other obvious garbage at the same time.
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What happened to VTuber?
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>>2612947
What happened to the rules? Nothing ever gets done here.
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>4chan
>make an account to post.
Modern day 4chan makes me sad. At least there's still plenty of image boards out there without any account shit, some even still let you post without captcha
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>>2613075
Kek
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Can someone give me a tl;dr? He's finally adding registration, right? I've been taking a break from modern shitty Internet in general and imageboards in particular.
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/film/ when?
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>>2579226
there already 4chan apps on android
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>>2613780

Or Hiro is going to make an "Offical" 4-channel app?
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>>2613784
Official app with microtransactions and "4chan Gold."
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>>2612848
Hiro, you haven't fired them yet.
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>>2579226
Please get rid of fucking random range bans.
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>>2613879
The liberal use of rangebans has reduced the amount of garbage across every board. It's still a mess, but better than before.
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>>2613896
I disagree, censorship is not good when is indiscriminate and you get the evildoers using VPNs anyway.
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>>2613897
This "censorship" through the use of rangebanning, has made my time here better.
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>>2613896
Bullshit, the site has never before been so full of boring, dull content.
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>>2613896
>>2613898
Get rid of shills and cucks.
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I'll be glad to test when you sent some fucking mods to /vr/ to clean up the shitposters, /v/ memers, and fucking eceleb threads. I'm not testing shit for you until you fix the already broken shit.
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>>2613924
Kek
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Why is this thread still here?
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>>2579226
Hiro you fucking faggot can you fucking di something about /tg/
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>>2582012
He can appreciate where it got him without appreciating what it was
And it was and is really bad
Fucked up part is it used to be better
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>>2581998
Sometimes I wonder what the maximum number of people you can have on an imageboard is before it becomes too big to manage the community effectively.
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>>2593989
now this image is on another level
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>>2597037
based
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>>2615002
We'll never know since the limit was never hit and imageboards are dying.
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>>2615190
>imageboards are dying.
proofs? 4chan is bigger than ever in terms of numbers
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>user accounts
fuck this gay shit
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FUCK USER ACCOUNTS

FUCK SOCIAL MEDIA

FUCK ADVERTISING
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>>2582291
>Archives are cancer
Kys
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>>2579226
No. KYS.
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>>2579226
How about you go fuck yourself
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What a retarded kike.
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>>2598037
jfc nigger use vlc holy shit im sick of this site
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>>2579226
>literally clover on desktop
TRASH
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it's time to RISE UP fellow fourchannelers
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>>2614646
Because your fucking stupid
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For blue boards I suggest you 4channel faggots go to infinity chan.
They are slower obv but generally better content. Of course like here, the discord n reddit trannies aren't welcomed.
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>>2579226
If you do this just for phoneposters, you'll have millions of angry highschool children crowding up your inbox.
If you implement paid posting on desktop too, you'll have millions of angry men crowding up your driveway.
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Just beg for money on live streams. I'd respect that more than this shit and I'd probably give some money too.
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why the fuck cant 4chan just stay the way it is? sometimes I feel like a retard for buying a pass to support the site
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BLOCK
ALL
MOBILE
POSTING

MAKE
BANS
MEAN
SOMETHING
FOR
A
CHANGE
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>>2615581
Because jews.
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What a shitshow
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>>2579226
>login
Are you a shill desperate for user information, or just retarded
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>>2583327
dumb cunt
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>>2615609
He already sells as much of our info as he can.
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phone posters btfo
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>>2615620
we should just start posting the largest files we can and spam until hiro runs out of money
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wtf is this
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LETS DO THE WHOLE FUCKING VILLAGE
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D
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T
H
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W
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F
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>>2615536
And by discord trannies what he really means is that on cripplechan if you say anything that the mods don't like they will spew whatever thought-terminating cliche is popular that week, and ban you forever.
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>>2615620
Phone posters are just guinnea pigs, you dumbass. It's coming for PC too when he sees the money it makes, and then entire site dies. I always thought 4chan would survive as a bastion of free speech, but I guess no forum escapes the fate of getting killed off by those who eventually infiltrate and subvert everything.
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>>2582486
>not gonna mention that you have to pay money to post on the site

oh okay
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Monetisation suggestions:
1) 4chan passes
2) Voluntarily clicking a big, always visible button on the top left corner of the screen that enables crypto mining. The site will only mine crypto if that's clicked on, and normally it will not.
3) Collecting points in each browser session for helping maintaining the site by filing good reports (the jannies will have to rate reports now before taking action), or voluntarily clicking on ads on a button that cannot possibly clicked accidentally. Those points can be "spent" by uploading larger sized files, enabling webm audio on boards that normally don't allow it, reducing the time between posts, increasing the post character limit, etc.
4) Try to get sponsors and affiliate links for the site by yourself. You'd be surprised how many companies would be willing to advertise here if it's a highlighted ad. It's only hard to get popup ads from Google. You can always find sleazy scammers who'd be happy to advertise here and bathe you in gold.
5) Official merch store. The users will help you make designs for that.

There's no need to take away the main appeal of the site. Get with the times, people with far smaller platforms than 4chan make very good money on the internet. You could make an attempt to reach out to the people for ideas, if your concerns are legitimately all financial and you aren't actually completely evil and only care about trying to do us harm by selling our fucking info.
This makes you look very bad.
Fuck logins and fuck the botnet!
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>>2583397
You're such a piece of shit, Hiroshima. A lying jewish gook
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Hey Hiroyuki, I'm curious what's the incentive to use p4 over classic is. I'm sure you make plenty of money, and it's only human to want to make more, but wasn't the 4chan/nel split enough for advertiser revenue? This is ultimately your website now, and you're free to conduct it however you see fit, but I'm wondering, for the users, what is the benefit of this is?

In response to if "logins will replace captcha" you replied with,'It depends.'
I don't believe this to be a wise idea, while many of us are stuck here forever, you may scare off more than you bargain for, assuming that this project will eventually cause users to have mandatory logins.

Sorry for a long reply, but:
>TL:DR What's the incentive to continue to use 4chan if logins become mandatory on PC in the future, and why make this change at all?

Investing in a new webpage, p.4chan, seems like it would be a waste of money, assuming it costs anything to host it.
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>>2615666
Thanks for once, satan.
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>>2615655
Either way it keeps you faggots out regardless
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>>2579226
>boku no hero academia
>dragon ball
>komi ntr doujin starring fucking shaggy
The absolute state of /a/
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>>2615661
Site quality would drastically improve if this was implemented
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>>2583402
You don't even know how your passes work.
Anyone can evade bans and still have a pass working fine.
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>>2579226
>>2579226
>>2579226
God fucking dammit, Hiro. If you want to monetize 4chan stop fucking around with everything and coming up with these complicated schemes and just put up a goddamn DONATE button. The site gets 28 MILLION visitors, if you average $0.36, per user, per year you'll be making eight figures off the site.

STOP BEING A FUCKING RETARD!!!
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>>2615688
>y-yes goy you can have "quality" discussion for a few shekels!
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Wait. Can somebody clarify? Do I actually have to own a 4chan pass to actually post on that beta site? Does that mean 4chan soon can only be used by 4chan pass users?
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>>2579226
Congratulations gook moot.
The chans hate you more than ever now.
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>>2579226
Kill your self you literal fucking retard. Kiss your user base goodbye you dumb fucking faggot. Don’t you dare launch this shit you fucking moron
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>>2615688
Site would also drastically die as more move to cripple chan
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>>2615663
Too late pal, we're fucked.
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>>2596947
google has corrupted him.
4chan is kill
goodnight.
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>>2615722
>>2615717
Pretty much.

On the other hand, thank god I am finally FREE from the shitposting.
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>>2579226
>accounts
>on an anonymous image board
guess I finally have to leave
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I’m out. On the plus side, this was the last website I spent any time on, enjoy your new Twitter!
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>>2615716
Good.
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>>2579226
if accounts are required in the future, i am never coming back to this site
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>>2579226
this MUST be a joke
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>>2579226
>mfw I'll get to see hiroshima nagasaki kill 4chan
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Rest in pieces, 4chan.
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>>2615738
Rest in piss you mean
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>>2615733
This is usually done in April 1st.
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>>2579226
Fuck off stupid cunt. You really want to kill this site don't you?
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>>2615742
He does. To rebirth it into some normalfag cater.
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>>2615741
well then this man is a joke & this is the blunder of the century
let him enjoy his new dead twitter/reddit clone
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The site needs a place where I can like and tweet and get followers and set up a profile. If we’re going to turn this into a cock sucking contest you might as well open your throat.
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>>2615746
>well open your throat.
as in, slit it open?
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How's that vtuber coming along you chinese insect?
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>>2615745
This.
Let the man enjoy the beast he created.
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