>1) Lanza says the Ace Steel issue was dealt with on Tuesday (which he says was a very ugly day), but by Wednesday Punk and Tony were back on solid ground discussing booking ideas. He says Punk asked to be taken off the press materials because he didn't want advertised in advance, ala The First Dance.>2) Lanza says Punk has always planned to come back on the 17th, and that has never changed. He says Punk has never threatened to bail on Collision.>3) The segregation to Saturday was not Punk's idea - "The Elite wanted that - the Young Bucks wanted that.">4) Punk wanted Ace Steel back on the road, The Elite said absolutely not, thus Ace is working remotely.>5) All the legal documents passed between the parties were all amicable and not threatening, including the NDA on Brawl Out. Lanza says one states that Punk is required to attend television tapings when asked (which seems to me to contradict #2). Lanza adds that Tony wasn't going to announce the United Center until all of those legal documents were signed by Punk, which feels like it contradicts #1 & 2.>6) Lanza says Punk signed his first AEW contract an hour before he took the stage on Rampage, so this last minute stuff is par for the course for Punk. He says Tony wasn't going to announce the United Center until Punk had signed the Brawl Out NDA and other docs, but that at no point in this entire ordeal has Punk ever wavered on showing up on the 17th. Lanza says Punk has always wanted to come back, and if it were up to him, he'd be working Wednesdays and Saturdays.
>>10277848>7) Lanza says Punk is very contrite and apologetic about the press conference, and that he was told Punk outright apologized to Tony about the press conference. Punk feels everybody just needs to let bygones be bygones in regards to the locker room fight and move on. Lanza says he was told that Punk has tried to contact the Bucks, and the only response was from their lawyers. Lanza says that he takes no sides on that, as "nobody was in that room", so he can't judge the Bucks.>8) Lanza says he would wager Punk and Omega eventually work a program, *if* Punk "sees the end of this contract" and stays injury free (again, this feels to me like it contradicts #2 and Lanza's "Punk just wants to work in AEW" stance).>9) Lanza would not bet on Punk being involved in a program with the Bucks (not a surprise).>10) "The bottom line here is that Punk wants this, he wants back in, and there's things he's had to concede, there's things he's had to agree to. Tony Khan's racking up more Ws than you think. The Bucks are racking up more Ws than you think. And you could argue Punk is racking up the biggest W of all, because he's being allowed to come back, but he's had to make some concessions, not doubt about it. He's not returning to *his* perfect world, to his perfect vision of what his return would look like. He's been banished to the weekend, and not by choice." Lanza calls Collision "The island of malcontent toys that is Saturday, a show that will be loaded with the problem children."
>>10277850>11) Lanza says there is a sizable very strong anti-Punk camp in AEW. There's a much smaller but existing anti-Bucks camp who thinks the Bucks are passive-aggressive assholes. There's a third camp that simply has "Punk fatigue" and is just done with all the drama. Lanza says the largest camp of all is the Neutral camp, who just want to come to work. Lanza feels bad for the neutral camp guys, because they will unfairly get labelled a "Punk guy" or an "Elite guy" by the Punk stans or the Elite stans depending on which show they end up on through no choice of their own.>12) Lanza mentions that Tony has recently trademarked "Transfer Portal", which leads him to believe that this might be a pretty hard roster split.>13) Unrelated to Punk, but Lanza says some of the pitches for Collision could be considered a "hard reset" for some of the characters, and it will be interesting to see what ends up on the show. He says Collision has a chance to have a distinct feel apart from Dynamite.
>>10277848So The Bucks are being little cunts because they can't handle getting heemed. No surprise
None of this drama would've even gotten a foothold if AEW was ran like a company by management with a spine that kept its employees in line. Tony's incompetence as a boss is absolutely ridiculous.
>Punk asked to be removed from the material>This made WBD very upsetI'm sure Tony is going to risk upset their business partners for Phil.
>>10277911More news at 11.
Post the mp3 please.
>>10277850>Punk feels everybody just needs to let bygones be bygones in regards to the locker room fight and move on.>guy who started all of this shit thinks everyone just needs to grow up and move on
>>10277941This thread isn't about Hangman
>>10277914Collision would be an insane flop without Punk. They kinda have to bow to his whims
>>10277941The one who started it was Hangman, even Meltzer admits this
>>10277949No, it's a thread about Punk being a douche.
>>10277911You ignorant retard. This sort of thing is common in wrestling.
They keep saying the Elite but it sounds like The Bucks are the ones who care and Kenny doesn't give a shit since he's apparently open to working with Punk.
>>10277911if Vince was a proper boss Shawn and Bret never would have had a falling out
>>10277978>it's common for the owner & booker of a wrestling fed to have no authority over the wrestlers and be forced to split his company because a middling tag team vetoes the return of the only draw on the rostername one other example
>>10277848>The EliteStopped reading right there. They have zero power/influence. That's why Cody left
How can I know this is real and not just FTRschizobabble
>>10277984this has been the case since the night it happened
lol The Bucks are such massive pussies.
Reminder that the Bucks sulked after getting their asses kicked in a PWG match. Imagine how much they seethe after losing to Punk and Ace KWAB
>>10278002>it's common for the owner & booker of a wrestling fed to have no authority over the wrestlersShawn Bret
>Lanza says he was told that Punk has tried to contact the Bucks, and the only response was from their lawyers.
>>10278071Damn, The Bucks pulled a Punk move on him?
The Bucks need to pull a Thunder Rosa and claim they considered anheroing to get people behind them and against Punk
>>10277911You ever hear of Montreal kid?
>>10278049Vince dealt with Shawn by setting Carder on stand-by to heem Shawn if he decided not to drop the belt to Austin, and he dealt with Bret with the Screwjob. He went over on both of them while Tony is the Bucks' bitch for no reason since from a business POV they have zero leverage, and certainly have way less name value and drawing power than Punk.
>>10277861>Transfer PortalWhat the fuck? What are we? Twelve years old? Can't you be serious on this matter at all?I don't wanna see any of you faggots ever complaining about Vince's buzzwords again. At least they don't sound like they came out from the mouth of a middle school boy.
>the guy that started the Kylie Rae rumor and got cancelled for being a Trumpcuck saidno thanks
>>10277848The bucks cant draw, have no money, and dont book, so why does tony still give a shit what they say? Why are their hurt feelings dictating television contracts? Best workers in the biz man
>>10278125Phil can't even sell 5.000 tickets for the UC during the pre-sale.
So there are four camps. Can you share an anti buck and anti punk camp at the same time?Call it A bunk camp
>>10278117it's a football term you retard
>>10277911this, the EVPs should have been fired back in September for acting like retards>>10277976trying to act smart only makes you look like a bigger mouth drooler
>>10278117How about you watch sports other than wrestling every now and then you numb cunt?
>>10277848>>10277850>>10277861Why the fuck is Tony kneeling to the Bucks this hard? I get that Phil had most of the blame on this shit but the Bucks are the retards who went to his locker room looking for a fight. They should've made concessions too.I'm even inclined to believe this isn't about the Bucks at all. I feel like all this shit was to secure Kenny. Tony knows that if the Bucks gets pissy and want to leave, Kenny might follow and that's too much of a risk. I'm sure that if Kenny one day decided to tell the Bucks to fuck off, those two faggots would be out the door in a month.
>>10278156why are you believing a literal who that manages a pizza hut?
>>10277848>Writing all that shit without a sauce linkI sleep
>>10277848>Joe LanzaThe guy that said all of the Suzuki-gun members plus Yoh were leaving new japan?
>>10278124>>the guy that started the Kylie Rae rumorReally? Fuck that guy
I know this is unlikely because the Saturday slot is doomed but it would be so fuckin funny if Collision got bigger ratings than Dynamite. Also holy shit lol that whole concept is hilarious in itself, a whole show that features the guys that are unpopular. Lmao what a fuckin goddamn shitshow.
>>10278184>>10277848Reflects really badly on the bucks
Doesn't matter. Punk will want to move back to Dynamite during College Football season. Watch.
>>10278201WBD will want Punk on Dynamite too. He'll be on Wednesdays by Labor Day 100%
>>10278194>whole show that features the guys that are unpopularUnpopular with whom? Friends of the Elite?
>>10278198>Attacked by an employee>The employee gets his job backThis reflects badly on Tony
>>10278208Small chance it happens. There a rumours that the deal he signed prevents him from appearing on Dynamite.
>>10278201Saturday night is just a pac 12 game, no one watches that shit especially now the usc is goneSports dont affect wrestling ratings except for nfl. That is just cope bc noone likes wrestling
>>10278228It's not. The biggest conference games are usually at 8. That includes Pac 10, SEC, etc
>>10277914>>Punk asked to be removed from the materialthis defo feels like PR damage control narrative from Punk's camp
>>10278117non-Sports watching fatty weeb detected.
>>10278223I can see why the bucks want out now, why they’re leaking everything to Bryan/dave though proxies.
>>10278260I agree. The stuff with the Bucks not wanting to talk to Punk is probably true. But I have a hard time believing Punk wanted his name pulled from the tv upfronts for a warner discovery project and everyone was cool about it.
>>10277850>Lanza calls Collision "The island of malcontent toys that is Saturday, a show that will be loaded with the problem children."Or in other words Collision is loaded with actual draws and dime-makers who know their value while the indie shitters can all stay in their Wednesday and Friday night Reseda clubhouse and crash the ratings with no survivors. Works for me.
The reason Ace Steele is perma v& is because he injured a civilian who didn't work for AEW, the person worked for the Wintrust Arena. None of you shut in ernds know anything about the legal nightmare that situation must be for AEW as a company, in term sof hte legal liability they are open to as a result of Steele's actions. For him to be even be hired back in any way at all is appalling and if that building crew civilian is suing AEW for being injured by him then the optics of it are just appalling and AEW may have to pay this guy a lot of money to make the problem go away.
>Your brother Matt, whatever happened there...
>>10278296Feels like an attempt to counteract the "WBD were pissed off about having to make the last minute press material changes due to Punk being difficult" narrative that was out there last week.
>>10278301>For him to be even be hired back in any way at all is appallingCry harder faggot. Punk won.
So what happens wrt PPVs? I'll tell you what happens. The Bucks won't get booked
>>10278299You are going to be in for such an unpleasant surprise when you find out what night of the week is the lowest viewed night for Television in North America. Saturday night primetime is death slot in American TV.
>>10278324>The Bucks won't get bookedGod willing
>>10278323Thoughts on Ace Steele injuring a civilian building worker who had nothing to do with the carny ego piss fight?
>>10278166no one is coming out to discredit his story
>>10278331Collision will overtake Dynamite and Rampage and I'll be laffin
>>10277850>Punk feels everybody just needs to let bygones be bygoneshmmmm...
>>10278343>Thoughts on Ace Steele injuring a civilian building worker who had nothing to do with the carny ego piss fight?Based. That worker deserved it for standing too close to the danger zone.
>>10278345let's revisit this statement in 6-9 months. You have 0 idea about Saturday night TV viewership in America.
>>10278359>Guy starts a massive raging fire in his apartment for no reason/cos he is mental.>Everyone else who lives in the building freaks out and tries to put the fire out and call the fire dept to put it out and screams at the Guy "WHY DID YOU DO THAT WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE">Guy who started the fire; "You guys need to stop focusing on the past and move forward, what's done is done and I am owning it and accepting it. Now let me come back in. You guys really need to grow up and stop worrying about this raging fire I started. Why are you being so weird about this? This is so unprofessional......."
>>10278364Why even post that when you know you don't sincerely believe that
>>10278385deranged analogy, punk won by the way
>>10278344because nobody listens to VOW
>the rabid Punk sperg ITT calling anyone else deranged.I bet you cheered him on valiantly watching UFC 203 as well didn't ya mark
>>10278010reality is that you dont, all these dirtsheets get fed half truths depending on the source and what their agenda is
>>10278385>>Guy starts a massive raging fire in his apartment for no reason/cos he is mental.yeah the bucks should have never blamed him falsely for getting colt the shitter off tv, since he cant even do a match>everyone else who lives in the building freaks out and tries to put the fire out and call the fire dept to put it out and screams you need to relax, alvarez. punk isnt taking your girl again>Guy who started the fire; "You guys need to stop focusing on the past and move forwardimagine going to confront someone, getting your ass kicked, and being too scared to let it go because youre a pussy whos never been in a fight. someone tell the bucks to gain test
>>10278365It's sad because pro wrestling used to be must watch TV in many parts of the nation on Saturdays. Football (college mostly, sometimes pro) runs Saturdays and does fantastic. It's not that people don't want television on Saturday, rather it's that wrestling is just not popular enough to keep people from going out on Saturday and/or isn't popular enough to be shown at sports bars.
imagine simping for dis dude
>>10277848So basically Tony really needs to let the bucks go to WWE. Imagine keeping your top draw off Dynamite because these 2 little fags talked shit and got hit. Seriously just don't re-up their contracts and let them go be Cody's sidekicks
>>10278440why are you still crying about him?
>"If you freeze frame it you can actually pinpoint the exact moment his mind breaks in half"
>>10278476Coping Philfag, the Bucks are the most influential wrestlers of the past decade and would be a huge get for WWE
>>10278481Some little shit who has never done anything in wrestling goes into business for himself to try to impress his gay little friends and people really think punk was wrong.... Punk should have shoot heemed hangma'am bright there on TV
>>10278479now I know Crying Man Punk fans aren't out here trying to talk shit like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXgDb5QGvr0
stop making me read things
>>10278499>who has never done anything in wrestlingWinning the AEW title is nothing?
>>10278510kek what a crying bitch
>>10278499Punk will never know you exist and hates rabid parrot tribal mark fans like you most of all.
>>10278518When you're friends with friends of the minor league booker, yes
>>10278201Most big college football games happen at noon or afternoon.
>>10278544Punk is known for cozying up to bookers. He's had Tony eating out of his hand since 2021
>>10278485I'm not the guy you were responding to and I don't care about Phil, but it really highlights how shitty the 2010s were for pro wrestling when the Young Bucks are considered the most influential tag team. The Road Warriors, the Hart Foundation, the Brain Busters, the Steiner Brothers, Harlem Heat, the Outsiders... and the Young Bucks. LMFAO
>>10278544Let me tell you the tale of Gabe Sapolsky and CM Punk............
>>10278385>And also fuck Bryan Alvarez
>>10278518Anon I don't wanna hurt your feelings but the AEW title is worthless. It's like winning the minor league world series
>>10277949>hangman taking a jab at him in a promo causes phil, months later, to go full schizo at a press conferenceDO YOU KNOW SCOTT COLTON?ARE YOU ACTUALLY SCOTT COLTON?DONT FUCKING LIE TO ME SCOTT I KNOW YOU ARE WEARING SOMEONE ELSE'S FACE AGAIN
Need Ibushi to replace the Bucks at this point.
>>10278354We don’t sign our posts here
>>10278545>MostI agree on most. But there only needs to be one big game in primetime per week to be stiff competition. ABC, Fox, and ESPN all have primetime games weekly. And occasionally big draw Notre Dame gets a primetime slot on NBC
>>10278209Being bitch made pussies in a business of tough guys kek lmao
>>10278596You can say that. I can say that. But somebody that works for AEW shouldn't say that. Punk should elevate that title, not devalue it in public
The Bucks are leeches who use Kenny but he can’t see it because he’s autistic. Someone needs to tell the bucks to stop being bitches.
The Elite couldn't have lost any hader.
>>10278777GOOD MORNING SIR
>>10278390>Why even post that when you know you don't sincerely believe thatI 100% sincerely believe it.
>>10278804nice to see trolling distilled down to it's base form here.
So is TK placating the Bucks to keep Kenny?
>>10278842Pretty much. I think Tony would have a shoot aneurysm if he saw all 4 EVPs together on WWE tv
>>10278842Why wouldn't he placate his EVPs?
Everyone knows Punk, Bryan, Mox, Joe and others helping Tony mould a real wrestling promotion and ROH is better than anything the Bucks can offer. Kenny is legit great and if I'm Tony I'd give him a huge deal and let him do whatever he wanted, but if you gotta lose him to lose the Bucks I'd probably go for it. Hangman would be missed too but I'm not sure he'll go. The Bucks only have one more chance, work with Punk and FTR and prove yourselves as 'Elite' talent or go to WWE and stink up their tag division
>>10278827It isn't trolling. If you stand too close to a crazyman you deserve to get the shit kicked out of you.
>>10278865Yes you definitely believe the thing you are saying online right now.100% for really real ;)
>>10278855>The Bucks only have one more chance, work with Punk and FTRNobody wants Punk to work with the Bucks and the Bucks have already put over FTR
>>10277910is this guy credible?if so then yeah seems like their being little fucking faggots about it as usual
>>10278888>nobody wants that 3v3This is the biggest match they could do
>>10278223while that is true they went there looking for a confrontation and they got one.
>>10278925literal who never heard of him and had to ask
>>10278973Pretty much the entirety of his NJPW New Year report got debunked.>The decision to disband Suzuki-gun came from the top, as Bushiroad upper management continues to wield more and more influence on the on screen product.>The majority of SZG is working on handshake deals, as has been the case for many years. The Karl Anderson debacle has spooked the office into insisting that all core roster members be locked into contracts. With so many SZG members unsigned, upper management wanted them either all signed or broken up, to reduce the possibility of jumping somewhere together as a fully formed unit. This call was not made by the booking office.>We can confirm Dragongate has made offers to both SHO and YOH (to be clear, separate offers, not as a proposed package/tag team) of New Japan. SHO, who has not been happy with his lack of push after initially being pleased with the opportunity to work as a single, was told a big push would be waiting for him with Dragongate, who see both SHO and YOH as perfect fits. SHO is showing more interest than YOH, who we were told is happy with his New Japan spot and not likely to jump. SHO does what he is asked in his House of Torture role and has not been a problem, but largely just goes through the motions.SHO is still in the company and everyone that was part of Suzuki Gun is also still in New Japan full time aside from Minoru Suzuki and TAKA Michinoku. Nothing changed and nothing indicated that Suzuki Gun was a decision from the upper management.
>>10278855The Bucks don't deserve to have as much sway as they do in AEW. I get that they're EVPs, but nobody is tuning in to see The Young Bucks. Their merch doesn't move like it used to, and that masturbatory Best of Seven Series proved they're killing ratings. Every week, the ratings during those matches in particular got lower and lower until the final match, which got a slight bump. People were literally changing the channel instead of watching them. If The Elite aren't jobbing to BCC this weekend, Tony's lost his fucking mind. But then again, with how badly he's completely cooled off Bryan and Claudio, I could see it happening. They're basically midcarders at this point.
>>10278938yes, they took the head of legal with them to go see him like he asked, and his friend chimped out and then he lied about his dog
>>10279045they were fucking brain dead thinking anyone would want to see the same young bucks match 7 weeks in a row but that didnt matter it was all just a big fuck you to punk to show they were back on tv and he was still off
>>10279045>If The Elite aren't jobbing to BCC this weekendThe only way I can see the elite losing that match is if Callis and Takeshita come out to screw them which leads to Ibushi showing up
>>10279072eh, it does seem strange that she was there but you dont take the head of legal then go kick in the guys door. so maybe all that was a lie.
>>10278855>Hangman would be missed too but I'm not sure he'll goProbably not. Dude likes to spend a shitload of time with his family so jumping ship and having to deal with the WWE schedule wouldn't appeal to him at all.
>>10279045>>10279080Elite are definitely winning the match they super cede even moxley shit doesnt have to make sense with them if they want to win for whatever reason or even no reason they make the call and they win
>>10278989why are these cock suckers allowed to just make shit up like this? >uuuhhh let me publish YOUR source as my own or stop calling me out on my lies fucking retard
>>10278989I remember when this happened and the J-Cast guys came out and said that they obviously have contracts since the company prints merch for them. Lanza was trying to convince himself that they were under contract but only for merch, as if that’s a thing that happens.
>>10279075>that didnt matter it was all just a big fuck you to punk to show they were back on tv and he was still offExactly. It was just Tony bending over backwards to please them and apologize after they literally tried to 3 on 1 fight Punk and got their asses kicked (or 2 on 1 depending on what story you believe).
>>10279111Of course it's a lie, Punk is a literal paranoid schizo that thought Hangman would shoot on him
Hate Phil but this is unironically good news. The ratings for Collision are going to be abysmal. It's really going to expose Phil as an anti-draw bitch.
>>10279242this.hate phil hate the buckshate tinyhate gay e w hate wwe hope the saturday ratings plummet
>>10278194>the Saturday slot is doomedIf Saturday is so allegedly toxic for wrestling then why did WWE move their PPV events to it?
>>10278117Based. You worked trannies oh so hard with this one.
New show sounds like the honeymoon period will be absolute kino, it will then crash and burn in the worst way possible.
>>10279299Imagine comparing a PPV to a weekly B show
>>10278417>yeah the bucks should have never blamed him falsely for getting colt the shitter off tvheadcannon even punk's side doesn't claim anymore>confront someoneyes typically management will confront you for making a scene, if you throw the first punch, especially in front of the head of legal, it is not up to you to "move forward" it simply isn't in your hands.
>>10279425His dumb ass mentioned AEW's biggest actual competition. WWE PLEs
>>10279121Yeah he could probably just work NJPW which is stateside shows along with tours, being away from your family for those tours would suck but at least you'd get like 2 or so weeks to just be at home. Sort of like why Hansen used to just work japan.
>Joey Lanza WHO? FUCKING WHO? WHY WOULD I BELIEVE ANYTHING HE’S SAYING? WHY ARE ANY OF YOU BUYING ANY OF THIS????
>>10278545ABC runs a prime time game every Saturday night, even when the matchup sucks they still have a big draw involved like Ohio State. ESPN also has a game staggered an hour earlier which is usually the second biggest SEC game of the week, since CBS takes the biggest one. Then they’ll have Pac 12 on ESPN and FS1 during the times that collison will be airing on the west coast. As soon as college football ends, NFL immediately starts running games on Saturdays. Combine that with the NBA playoffs, and there’s an 8 or 9 month window where collison is going to get absolutely annihilated in the ratings. They really only have the summer unopposed, and that’s when most people spend their Saturdays out and about.
>>10277850>Tony Khan's racking up more Ws than you thinkthis delicious cope
>>10279603This isn’t even mentioning WWE PLEs running at the same time which will absolutely cream them
>>10279491Would be kind of annoying for him to have to spend roughly a month away from his family during the NJC and/or G1 but it's better than being 300+ days straight on the road doing house shows and shit if he went to WWE.
>>10277911kek this really set off the discord pedos
>there are actual “people” on this board who white knight for this guy
>>10277984everything that's been reported and the actions of everyone involved has indicated that punk didn't have a problem with kenny and that kenny doesn't have one with punk
>>10279717they should just hotshot the title on one of them and have em do all in
>>10277850>Lanza calls Collision "The island of malcontent toys that is Saturday, a show that will be loaded with the problem children."Collision will unironically draw the best ratings of all their shows. Every malcontent on that roster is a draw. I will actually watch this. My only questions is whether the Cucks will try to fuck this show up after it consistently outdraws Dynamite and Rampage.
>>10279131The bucks are "Elite" queers. They win eachothers penis' in their mouths.Evryone involved in this is retarded, but the fans who believe it are worse. CARNY MARKS.You woke bitches all worked yourselves into a shoot. Oh, Elite this or Punk that, motherfuckers THIS IS A CARNY world. The business is built on it. Wait and see, Its all a fucking work brother;)
>>10278133>Phil can't even sell 5.000 tickets for the UC during the pre-sale.Punk drew a milly on Rampage. How are the Dynamite ratings looking?
>>10278156>I feel like all this shit was to secure Kenny. Tony knows that if the Bucks gets pissy and want to leave, Kenny might follow and that's too much of a riskWhy in the fuck would anyone want this. Groomega is more of an anti-draw than the Cucks.
>>10278299>Or in other words Collision is loaded with actual draws and dime-makersIm curious to find out what's going to happen to the "roster split" when Collision outdraws Dynamite consistently. Will Kenny and the Bucks take the L or will they sabotage Collision like they have Dynamite and Rampage?
>>10278331>You are going to be in for such an unpleasant surprise when you find out what night of the week is the lowest viewed night for Television in North America.You are gonna be in for a surprise when you find out that Collision, even being in the worst prime time night of the week still outdraws Dynamite.
>>10278772>The Bucks are leeches who use Kenny but he can’t see it because he’s autisticHow can a leech leech from a leech?
>>10278390The guy is a NEET and never have a job, what do you expect?
>>10281318You really think that don't you Phil? Like you thought you would win in UFC
>>10277911Oh boy trannies ain't gonna like this
>>10281340>Rampage with PunkMIlly>Dynamite with Groomega, the Cucks, and Faggot PageNo MillySimple as
>>10278117Oh boy this got trannies raging
>>10281288>Meme viewership figureJust fuck off kid. You're too stupid to talk about drawing.
>>10281361>Dynamite with Punk vs. MJF main eventingNo Milly
>>10281296Kenny is actually pretty tolerable as a solo act, the Cucks have always leeched off of Kenny and I feel like most Elitexirs only tolerate the Bucks because they're friends with Kenny
>>10278133>7 hours into the Pre-Sale and this is what the map looks like. The Upper Tier did not sell out, they removed that entire level even though they sold seats there. The Middle Tier opened while I was out on The Striphttps://twitter.com/AEWTicketMap/status/1661856614939516928
>>10277850>Lanza says Punk is very contrite and apologetic about the press conference, and that he was told Punk outright apologized to Tony about the press conference. Punk feels everybody just needs to let bygones be bygones in regards to the locker room fight and move on. Lanza says he was told that Punk has tried to contact the Bucks, and the only response was from their lawyers. Lanza says that he takes no sides on that, as "nobody was in that room", so he can't judge the Bucks.Just fucking imagine how much better off AEW would be if Kenny Olivier and the Cucamunga Cucks just apologized and let everyone move on
>>10281428listening to jim cornette is not a personality
>>10281437Kenny Olivier isn't going to fuck youThe entire point of Brawl Out was that Kenny intruded Punk's personal space and got knocked out for his troublesPunk wants to move on, Kenny doesn'tThat's not Cornette headcanon
>>10281437True but a posse of them floating around every wrestling discussion online keeps things spicy.
>>10279670>AOC>Kamala HarrisNigga what even it your a libcuck you're talking about a socdem and someone who made their name as a district attorney and bragged about prosecutions where they'd arrest parents for their kids not going to school like that's just not consistent politics at all they both want different things even in their narrow world views. "I would have voted for Obama for a third term if I could" type shit. Expert virtual signalling.
>>10280168Have Kenny beat MJF because it'd be really funny for Kenny to beat "my gimmick is I say Jim Cornette lines" the wrestler then have Punk win it at All In so Tony can finally do his TEW Punk booking he's been sitting on since ROH.
>>10281437hating Jim Cornette is not a personality
>>10281446You got so much wrong there, bud.
>>10279121AEW just added a bunch of dates to the company's schedule. Combine that with the company's biggest draw and most influential politician having a vendetta in for him specifically, Hanger has very little reason anymore to pick AEW over WWE.Maybe NJPW'll offer him the best deal, though.
>>10281437>>10281481Fucking Stacey Cornette is my personality
>>10281462Kenny winning would be better for the company. You can do Punkiverse with the TNT and he'd make it work.
All this tells me is Tony is the same spineless jagoff he has always been. He should have fired them all.
>>10281514>A guy that can't draw a milly would be better for the companykill yourself troon
>>10281503>Hanger has very little reason anymore to pick AEW over WWE.You make it sound like WWE actually wants him
This is the greatest work since Montreal
>>10281576Why wouldn't they? He's handsome, athletic, blond-haired and blue-eyed, still yet to have his first bald spot, and it'd be a strong kneecap shot against a rival company to fleece a talent that young and that high up on their ladder.The only disadvantages are him being just a bit shorter than Vince prefers, and the fact that he's probably not willing to have a secret gay affair. But that was the case for AJ, and he did well for himself all the same.
>>10278099They tried that in All Access but they came off as fucking faggots.
>>10281583no milly?no 900k?
>>10281701smackdown gets 2 milly and they're getting cancelled
>>10281706So you're saying AEW is going to get fucked even worse than Smackdown?
>>10278209>>10278223Nigga this isn't a 9 to 5 office job. This is pro wrestling. The people who are mad at a punk are either Elite dick riders or corporate stooges who never been in a fight in their lives. People fight in lockerooms and they still do business with each other.
>>10281340Bitch if the Saturday show ends up being the better product word of mouth will spread. If you put something good they will come. That being said I feel that a better time slot would be Saturday morning or afternoon which was a traditional hour for wrestling back in the territory days and just try to limit swearing and blood unless needed.
>>10281728>ends up being the better product word of mouth will spread. If you put something good they will come.This is like when you guys said Dynamite would pass Raw eventually
>>10281667>Why wouldn't they?Because: >he's a self-mark. That Punk promo about saving AEW from Punk. He believes his own bullshit. Ain't gonna fly in WWE>He does flippy shitLook at his injury in the Mox match. Before the injury he did a top-rope superplex, Kicked out of a German Suplex and then didn't have enough in the tank to take a clothesline cleanly. He's getting older and isn't changing up his style. >still yet to have his first bald spotThat hairline is receding. There's a bald spot under that long hair. >But that was the case for AJ, and he did well for himself all the same.AJ was AJ. Dude was mentally able to make the shift and change up his style to fit WWE. Hangman has bought into the flippy-shit orthodoxly and wont make a change.
>>10281736>This is like when you guys said Dynamite would pass Raw eventuallyWWE Saturday Night's Main Event set the precedent back in the day. Saturday can work for wrestling. Same logic as MNF going up against Raw, some people will want an option compared to College Football. A milly audience is there on Saturday, Dynamite has the better slot, but as long as they keep the Elite away from Collision, it consistently pulls a million.
>>10278114>Vince dealt with Shawn by setting Carder on stand-by to heem Shawn if he decided not to drop the belt to Austinmmmm don't wanna mess with those pure strikes
>>10281773This isn't the 80s
>>10281452Speak English, retard
>>10281809No fucking shit. But historically, the highest ratings wrestling has ever recorded were on Saturday. The primetime landscape isn't that much different that a Saturday can't work.
>>10283148You're a dumbass
>>10281706Fox is actually actively bidding against 2 other networks for smackdown, not being cancelled
>>10278049Vince just used their IRL beef to promote the matches and their feud leading up to the match, then he sent Bret packing to WCW and made HBK job to Austin. He did the same with Edge and Matt. Its completely different to Tiny losing control of his own wrestlers and having to separate them to different brands.
>>10277848so are AEW actually doing a roster split? if so that may be one of the dumbest moves in the history of wrestling.
>>10283255I think you meant multiple have said Shawn would tell Vince to go fuck himself in front of the lockerroom, let him appear high on camera constantly break kayfabe and Bret punched him so hard in front of the boys he was limping afterward and ashamed to be seen on camera
>>10283534>this nigga got worked by the Bret punchlet me guess, you thought Vince actually had a neck injury as well because he wore that neck support thing during the steroid trialsKEK WHAT A WORKED SMARK
>>10283756>montreal was a work
>>10283775the obese smark cites Dave Kikezer as he strikes you
>>10283802>claims to have insider information>cites no one>calls others smarks
>>10283186>You're a dumbasswhat a coherent and well articulated argument.
>>10281576He's been on Paul's wishlist since 2019