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Has anyone used a paper cutting plotter? Are they worth it?
NTA seconding this.
>Are they worth it?

Only for really big, simple stuff. Not for any kind of advanced papercraft figures or anything at all. But for kids stuff and for really lazy people that don't know how to use scissors or knives. I bet you 10000 bucks that I cut stuff out more precise and faster than any of these overrated machines. Hate them really
>I cut stuff out more precise and faste

Sure anon. But have you tried cutting the same piece over 100 times for, say, selling your work? I bet you'll try killing yourself after a while.
True. But then again, why buy a machine that cuts out these simple pieces and makes it look crappy. Can you sell your work then if the cuts are wonky as hell? I still don't see any benefit to this really. And if you are an indutrial business, you got other means of cutting stuff, not with these lame-ass machines. Again, my oppinion. But it's the same as, for instance, banana cutters - people actually buy those useless knive molds that you put your peeled banana in so it cuts it to smaller even pieces, while I can do the same with my kinfe, as much as any 8-year-old can. For me personally, these are a waste of space, money and resources and make lazy people even lazier.
aren't these things super slow at cutting?
Mine has definitely been worth it. I typically use it to cut stencils for spray paint, but also use it for decals, cutting iron on designs for shirts, pop-up cards, writing calligraphy, and kirigami. You can also use it to apply gold foil, or to cut perforations/make creases.
Anon you must not have much experience with them, because you would lose that bet. Could you cut this as symmetrical in less than 30 seconds? And it gets more precise than this, this is just the example file they cut for you to show you how it works.
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Not bad for a hobby
They are much faster than a skilled human attempting the same thing and more precise if you know how to read a manual to set them up right. Hell, laser cutters are "slow" for similar reasons of the electric motors having to move the head around the axis of the gantry. They do make an ungodly noise while working though, so don't try running one while anyone in the house is trying to sleep. One thing you will need to do is figure out how to keep your cutting mat at the right level of tack to not have your sheet move about. Initially a new sheet will be so sticky that you can't remove the sheet without tearing. I like to stick an old T-shirt to it and remove it about a half dozen times to temper the adhesive. After using it for a while you can clean it and then hit it with a can of spray adhesive and repeat the T-shirt thing until it is where you want it to be.
Any recommendations on brand or model for an entry level machine?
why not just buy a cheap laser cutter/engraver, you can pick up them up for like $100
I own a silhouette portrait to make stickers and cut vinyl. Best purchase I've done.
Silhouette sounds interesting, I'll have to take a look.

What's a good laser cutter?
I think they're worth every penny. I use it to make anime / hentai stickers.
That's wonderfully dainty and intricate. Good job
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Wife uses Cricut Maker all the time. Software is shit.

Great advice on the spray glue and T-shirt. Great money saver thanks anon
Do you have the files for the plant guy?
Try this m8
Where the hell are you getting laser cutters for 100?

The only cheaper paper cutting machine I know is $100 used which is cricut joy. I think it's worth it though.
>why buy a machine that cuts out these simple pieces and makes it look crappy.
Anon has never used one of these machines before. They don't make crappy cuts nor does it have any issue cutting intricate shapes.
>banana cutters - people actually buy those useless knive molds...while I can do the same with my kinfe
This is not a good comparison. It's more equivalent to a whisk, and an electric hand mixer lmao.

I use the cricut, and while it does have a lot of flaws, none of the above are it. The biggest issue is the initial start up cost. The machines start at $200 with a decent useable surface area of 12 x 12. So if you aren't super into papercraft it's a fairly expensive investment. If you want to cut a lot of material you have to buy overpriced knives and the software is shit. But software con can be solved if u just create in .ai and export it as .svg.

Be creative with it
there is an 80$ one on amazon, it uses a 3 watt laser, stepping up to 200$ gets you a 20 watt laser. I could see one of these going used for the 100~ range, these would essentially be crap people buy thinking it will do more than it does.
I work with lasers so first off, the really cheap ones have a stupid tiny operational area of 3" x 3" OR they have no heatsink/honeycomb to absorb the overcut and they definitely don't have any vacuum or extraction.

Your best bet for laser is a cheap Chinese K40 for about $330.
You will also need to get a compressor for the air assist, an in-line blower and some ductwork to port out a window for the extraction airflow and a tub or bucket of distilled water with a pump that you'll need to maintain for cooling the laser tube. On top of that most people like replacing the panel with something that is more functional and will allow for easier computer interface.

Now, even after you dump $600 and weeks of tinkering into your laser project, these things are better suited to MDF and acrylic than paper. Remember the air assist and extraction fans"? Yeah, there's a bit of turbulence going on once you close the cover and start firing. You'll have to carefully tape down your sheet to the honeycomb and hope you don't accidentally nudge it out of position while you're doing it. Then you have to make your cuts incomplete so the parts don't fly down the vent once they're freed from the rest of the sheet. You'll also have to contend that a laser beam has a bit of width as well as your edges being singed brown that will get some soot on your hands while working with the cut paper, making smudging inevitable.

Meanwhile a Silhouette Cameo 4 is $270 and you can get a plugin to work right out of Coreldraw or Illustrator

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