Previous thread's life finally ended after 3 years. >>553409Let's start a new one!
That boar does not look like a boar...But not folding those tusks makes a fine pig.
>>582949Did you try a different color? Also R.I.P. in peace old thread.
>>582959>Did you try a different color?No, because it isn't a boar shape. Colour would not change the result.
I like that rooster, it can stand by itself.Those models are folded from regular 15 cm duo paper.
Bad idea to use blue paper when the background is blueish too...
this is a lot harder than i thought, i cant even do the card suits right
>>582962I like the little changes you made, definitely an improvement. I just finished a rooster, very neat.
>>583064What changes?Your rooster is neat indeed! Why not let it stand by itself?
>>583060Which one(s) are you having trouble with?Post a picture of where you are stuck, someone can probably help you.
>>583065Unless I'm mistaken the beak was originally crimped, but the pinched beak looks better imo. Also the tail pleats went all the way yp but you curved the top. Very nice.>>583067Absolutely we will try and help! Don't beat yourself up >>583060 this scan is rather blurry, some of the steps are unclear.
>>583068I see. Well, in fact, I couldn't tell about the beak because diagram is, as you said, rather blurry.As for the tail's feathers, that's my habits (same with feathered wings).Also, I folded the bottom of the wings as mountain folds instead of reverse folds...Just noticed you omitted part 3 of step 43 (which makes the "collar" rounder), but the pattern from your paper really fit with the underneath layer (it makes a green oval spot!).
>>583060So, I tried the card suits. Where did you get stuck?
>>583085I haven't looked at the book, but these look fine
>>583089Well, I folded those to try and help >>583060 . Even if I did not do it with great precision, I think I can give advices now.
>>583085Nice bowl anon.
My rooster was born a little... different. I tried with 15x15 and I ended up ripping a part of the rooster's back while folding a step with multiple layers. I will definitely try again.
>>583178It looks like your paper's quality is bad. If you try with a better paper, it will definitely improve the result.
>>583179I haven't started the new version yet but one of my friends came over and immediately recognized it as a rooster and complimented it so it's something I guess
you ever get so bored from quarantine that you make a three headed dragon?
>>583114Yes, I agree!>>583383Well, I haven't been in quarantine, but here is that little lizard.It somehow took some time to fold (repeating 3 times a long sequence for each head), but it is not very difficult.That dragon is so sad being alone, anyone willing to fold a 3-headed friend?
>>583405the only paper I had that was big enough was printer paper, but here he is!
>>583415Nice one! Welcome into the 3-headed family. How long did it take it to be born from that printer paper?(And pretty bowl too.)Anyone else who want to fold one? Because 3-headed dragons like to be 3 (at least!).
>>583417It started thursday night and finished friday morning, i'd estimate about 6 hours. took way too long but im happy with it.
>>583405>>583415Is 15cm kami okay or will I need something bigger
>>583429I'd say it depends on your origami habits. I folded mine with 15 cm duo paper, but it ends up quite small (as per attached picture). A neck (or tail) length is around 3 cm, if it gives you an idea.
>>583430TY, I'll probably try with something bigger as I tend to accidentally rip my kami when folding multiple layers
>>583431And post your result here after you are done!
>>583430I like that you can still see the outline of the bowl through the paper
>>583446It radiates divine bowl energy
Here's my crappy rat. I'm a beginner so I'm planning on working though each animal to hopefully reach the three-headed dragon before this thread dies.
>>583763That crappy rat is not crappy, and the paper you chose suits it very well.
>>583763I'm currently trying to make the rat. I'm a complete loss on how to do step 8.
>>582941Enyone else trying to fold a senbazuru (1000 cranes)? I’m already folded 209 little buddies.
>>583832You'd rather fold 1000 three-headed dragons to fit in this thread.
This time a cherry-red ox and orange tiger. I found the legs hard to shape for both models so they ended up a bit wonky. At some early stage I screwed up the tiger so I kinda gave up on it at the end (the camera angle hides some of the glaring imperfections). I'll probably re-attempt before moving on to the rabbit.>>583778Thank you. The paper color reminded me of eggs.>>583823I was lost at that step for a while too, but I'm not sure how best to describe it. If you're still having trouble a day later, I can draw a diagram showing where each edge ends up.
>>583832why are you wasting your time doing dumb shit like this? dedicate your time doing a satisfying complex build rather than the same monotonous shit 1000x.
I've been working through this for the last few days and I can't help but feel like I have some kind of learning disability. Everything goes well, but then there's an instruction that I just cannot decipher even after 20 minutes and by then the paper is all crumpled from failed attempts. What should I do when that happens? Move on to the next one and try again later?
>>583904try some easier models by searching on youtube. Jo Nakashima is good as he also shows the diagrams, so you can connect the instructions to the physical move. much as i respect montroll, his diagramming and instructions are ass and pretty hard to follow as a beginner.
>>583904which model/step #? I'll try and fold it with you.
>>583907Thank you anon, It was step 19 of the tiger.
>>583908Ok I took a few pics from multiple angles. Hope it helps.
>>583909>>583910I didn't realise it was that simple. I feel like an idiot.Thank you anyway, anon.
Finished the tiger. The diagramming is pretty terrible and the resolution doesn’t help so I found the book in Google books
I'm completely stumped by step 17 of the rooster.These are just normal folds, right?
>>583988Scratch that, I figured it out. My only advice is that the diagram is somewhat misleading. If you move the corner of the last fold you made to where it is in the next step, it'll do what you want with some help.
>>582941I'm having trouble with monkey step 17, did I do the push fold incorrectly or?
>>584288Looks good to me so far.For step 17, you have to extract the corner of the paper, which was folded in step 7. The rest of the model doesn't get changed (but it helps if you open the bottom part a bit when pulling that corner).
>>584289Amazing, Ty anon!
Glad I could help.
My autistic gf tried
>>584328Is it a bunny?
>>584330It was meant to be but she couldn't do it.
>>582941Quite funny that the chinese dragon is one of the easier ones. Typically any variation of a dragon is a pain.
>>584365It is a Montroll creation: there is usually no too much complicated step in his models.
I'm not sure I did steps 14 and 17 right on the heart but my first folds are done! Gonna try something harder now, maybe the sea serpent.
>>584614It looks like you did these steps correctly, anon.
Can someone give me a hand with step 14 on the sea serpent? I'm really not sure what I'm supposed to be folding, and googling "crimp fold" didn't really help.
>>584636Crimp fold is a combination of reverse folds.So, for the top part and the bottom part, separately, you have to inside-reverse fold on the creases made in step 12; then, inside-reverse fold again, on the creases made in step 10.
>>584637Thank you! Here's my sea serpent, it turned out kinda rough but it was still fun. Haven't decided what to try next...
>>584638Not the one that helped you out, but your sea serpent turned out really nice.
>>584638Nice job indeed!For the next one, that's your choice of course, but if you want to directly use the experience you gained from that sea serpent, you could try folding the western dragon (which is like a sea dragon with legs).
Finally got some time to fold again...That rat has the same ears as the pig, are they family-related?
>>584641I gave it a shot but it was definitely too advanced for me, I ended up ripping one of his feet and simplifying some of the harder steps. I'll try some of the animals next.
>>584684It still turned out really good, though.
>>584684Sorry for the inadequate advice then...But as >>584687 said, you did quite well!
>>582941step 17 of the horse is kicking my ass, how is that fold supposed to be made?
>>584720Make a reverse fold on the bottom left first (the part with a diagonal mountain fold, not very visible..).Then, open the layer following the long horizontal valley fold.
Just finished folding the suits of cards (7x7 cm squares). Club’s scuffed tho...
The Monkey model is one of my favorites, done with a 6x6 sheet of good Kami.
>>582941Is there a reason why the scan is blurry? I'm thinking of buying the paperback and scanning it myself if the only reason is because it's an old scan. Reply to me if anyone wants the scan, because if there's no interest I'll probably just use the paperback
>>585450AFAIK (OP here), there is no commonly available better quality scan of that book. I found many sources over the years , but all of them were this exact same file, or even worst quality.
>>585453>>585455alright, the book is coming in tomorrow. Is there a filesize limit on this board I should know about (new to origami and /po/)
>>585460For /po/, it's 8 MB, or you can use an outside filehost and post the link.
>>585460I just got the book, currently scanning it. It'll take a little while so if anyone wants a higher quality scan of a specific model LMK and I'll post it.
>>585450I literally just ordered it to do the exact same thing lol. Well, three available scans are better than two.
>>586303>Well, three available scans are better than two.Sure! But still, only that OP one is available right now.
>>586303should have it up this evening
>>586435PDF with reasonable resolution: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ryw72AHdvnnZm60a1DmB8IBBhZDlWNjU/view?usp=sharingPDF with unreasonably large resolution: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AbMpOCm0zqzliSdePHzGpcz-vnj6USqg/view?usp=sharingThey're both way too large to upload to 4chan lol
>>586435>>586444>>586453Thanks, that's a nice gift!!!
I love tessellations but man, folding the grids is always so tedious.Anyway, I'll finally be trying this turtle that has been haunting me since I saw the tutorial go up years ago. Wish me luck.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdqUcFOWg7s&t
>>586444Wow, actually way better than what I was doing. Thanks dude!
page 101 step 35, what is going on there?anyway, i stopped trying to figure that step out and started smashing everything else into general shape so i at least had something cool to look at. i'll try again a few times and do it nicely when i have some real paper. is there a brand i should be looking for? i don't want to get scammed on amazon
Im struggling too. This is my first time trying origami as an adult. I cant figure out what Im supposed to do on step 19 of the tiger.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA>>586751Thank you anon this helped, also I should have read the thread and seen the pics earlier
First draft of the bunny. Sloppy in places, but went smooth overall :) I'll do a second with some nicer paper later
>>586825Ok not nice paper yet but much better
>>586472wtf is she folding them into each other for
>>586865>>586825Nice bunny bro. Heres mine, i started yesterday and its the first one that i do. I used an A4 and cut a piece to make it 15x15 then created this abomination. I know its bad but its my first one. Do you people think i have future?
>>586925You have to start somewhere.
>>586925with origami i like to call it a success if someone else can tell what its supposed to be
Think I fucked up the diamond. The last step says tuck inside and note the pocket, which presumably would keep it closed, but I can't seem to find what that's supposed to be..
>>587512If you post a picture of your fold, maybe someone here can help you.
>>587522while i was trying to pose it for a picture i figured it out lol. thanks for the suggestion and inadvertently helping me get iti guess even if i think the solution is simple cause im kinda stupid, i should post a picture if i want help. even the simple shit's a mind maze
>>587523Well, glad I could help without effort, I guess.But sure, if you are stuck, just post a picture as it is much easier for anyone to help then.
yoo thank you for the book! really like John Montroll's stuff, guess I should buy a book from him lmao
>>586925I don't think it's bad, it's just not perfect, it's good for a first try, and you know what they say, with time and practice, there comes the perfection
Let's bump this thread with another picture.
Hey guys, I have a question about a Montroll design, not from the same book but I've attached the diagrams in the pic. It's a really simple model but for reason I am stuck at step 18/19. I've no idea how to pull out the hidden paper without dissasembling the tail fins.
>>591311Simply fold on the creases from steps 14/15, without bothering with the tail part.
>>591313>>591314oooooh that makes a lot more sense than what i was doingI managed to complete it, thanks a lot for the help!
>>591325Nicely done!(Glad I could help.)
my first origami
>>583988>>583996yeah, I'm not gonna lie those are misleading and uninformed instructions, you gotta figure out about 70% of it on your own and do a weird inside out kinda fold and the only other thing I'll add is pay attention to how it looks in step 18 and try to think about how it can match that shape from step 17.
>>59181518 is basically 14 on the left side of the model.To make it easier, one can fold 14, 15 16, and unfold back to 14; then fold 17 as 14 on the left, and assemble precreased folds to reach 18.
>>591815And these instructions are not really misleading nor uninformed. They are a bit advanced, so maybe you need more experience to get it more easily?
Hey, can anyone make a gif / video of how to fold step 8 in the rat (pg. 22)? I'm having a ton of trouble with it. Picture is of what I have so far, I think I might've fucked up at some early stage.
>>591957Indeed, there are some problems in your model:- Left part of your picture (which is top part of the diagram) is wrong: it looks like a mistake from step 2.Left and right corners (on the diagram) of the square are inside your model, when they should be outside. (They are the points that will be moved in step 8, number 1, and which are missing in your model). You might want to check how to fold a "fish base", which is what you have on step 3.- It seems you did two closed sinks for step 7, but these really are just open sinks. With closed sinks, you can't fold step 8 (number 1), as the flaps would be attached to the bottom part.(Sorry, no picture to help right now, as I am not at home & have no paper at hand.)
>>591959Alright, thank you. I've started out somewhat recently using one of the sites in the sticky, but I wanted to try the LFT book. Seems like I have a bit more to learn before I can fold these confidently.
>>591960You should look for basic bases and model diagrams then,Fish base, frog base, square / preliminary base, ...Traditional models like the crane (tsuru), cicada, kabuto (samurai helmet), ...Videos can help seeing folding techniques in action & their results, but folding only with videos won't help much with understanding diagrams.And you can also ask here for help (or probably in a new topic if it is for a model not in MC&TCZ or not from Montroll).
How do you guys display your 2D models?
>>582941Raven from Satoshi Kamiya.
Through some modifications, the ram has become a goat. I used 10cm paper so this guy's quite small.
>>588688Sorry for double posting but I wanted to say this is a very nice ram! I like how stocky he is. Curling the horns was a neat touch too.
>>582941hi anons! Sorry, I am a newfag and this isnt from the book above, but I am really stuck trying to make this owl. I believe I have done well up until fold 18-19... where the diagram suddenly pulls these wings out of nowhere! I have no idea where to pull them from haha...Please someone fold with me, ty
>>595976here is what I have so far ;-; help anons
>>595977So sorry for the spam... but actually I think I understand which part is pulled out now... I just dont understand how?
>>595978*forgot to add image*
>>595977Looks good, I would just try again
>>595980anon, I beg please fold with me I am literally too retarded to fold this myself..
>>595980Thanks for your encouragement... I actually did it! Guys does managing a fold ever make you unreasonably happy??? Anyways, this fold was way easier than I thought it was... I think i was just scared of doing it wrong lol
How do I get an origami boyfriend?
>>596577Admin, ban for spam
>>596608Yes, please do!
I am utterly baffled by step 23 of the rat. Could an anon that finished it help me out?
>>596791First, you should use the better quality version of the book: >>586453It was uploaded quite some time after OP, so it is not easy to find it...Then, hopefully those pictures will help. If not, ask again.
View from the back. Repeat on the other side.
>>596793I'm not the anon who asked but I must say this is an excellent demonstration.
>>596798Thanks, but it is only pictures of the problematic step.
>>596793>>596794>>596795>>596796>>596797fantastic, anon! Thank you so much, this really made my day <3 Have a good weekend.
>>596813No problem, glad I could help a bit.
i have a bad habit of not folding from books or ignoring models if i dont think the model looks super complex or interesting, but i have an obsession with difficult models and origami dragons so i decided to give both the cerberus and the 3 headed dragon in this book a shot. thoroughly satisfied, tough fold but so worth it
>>596833Nice work but it can be better if you shape a bit more.
>>595975oh wow ok this board is not for me
>>586444Doing God’s work.
>>596856>this board is not for meWhy not?
all i have is 8.5x11 office papershould i even try >>586453i cut the paper to be a square as much as i could and failed miserably making the heart on step 5.this is my first time ever doing this though and i'm pretty sure i'm miss understanding basic instruction steps but feel better by blaming it on the paper.
>>597623As that saying goes, "a bad workman blames his tools".Anyway, if you post a picture of your fold where you are blocked, someone will try to help you.
>>597628it helped once i read the legend in the beginning instead of just jumping into folding.however cutting the paper into a square each time i attempt to fold is getting annoying and i would like to get better at this.are there any guides for 8.5x11 papers? I check the catalog and couldn't find anything.
Step 16 of the sea serpent (page 71), where it says to pull out the white paper, has me stumped. There doesnt seem to be anywhere where i can pull out paper without tearing the model
>>598947In case anyone needed a side view
>>598948sorry for wasting thread space, but i think I got it gooddidnt want it to rip
>>598951Step 19 makes honest to god no sense whatsoeverThere isnt enough rooom, enough clearance, enough paper even to do it at all
>>598952I simply persisted, doing the folds it told me to even if the book had different images than what i got
Nice folding, guys! Love you! <3
what did I do wrong with my tiger and how do I fix it :((((
>>599703What is the problem? It looks like step 20, did you encounter any trouble with later steps?
>>599704The back looks fine, but somewhere between steps 23 and 25 I get confused. When you flip it, the left side looks different? I am not sure how to explain
>>599786Can you post a picture of the flipped model, then? It is difficult to help without knowing what might be wrong.
>>599789Sorry for the late response, here is the back!I had some trouble with the pleat folds but I was going to try skipping them maybe
I bought my first origami paper and I'm ready to fold. Can you guys please post more PDFs?
>>600071Fold every models from this one, that's a good training.
>>600074I'm looking for other PDFs to add to a folder so I have a lot of different beginner ones to choose from. OP's book only has 4 labled as beginner (the suits)
>>599896Sorry from here too for the delay...What is your problem, really?Compared to the diagram, your folds from step 21 are a bit too wide (you folded until the legs on the right instead of stopping earlier, cf. attached picture), but that doesn't seem to be critical.Are you stuck with step 23, the spread-squash folds?
>>582941this was fun, i'll try my hand at the animals later
>>600615Oh damn those came out well. Makes me want to retry this book when I get home.
>>582941what paper size should i use for this book? i tried with 7.5cmx7.5cm but i could not even make the spade. Is my paper size too small, or do i need to practice more?
>>602335It depends on your experience, but at first, I'd recommend 15cmx15cm at least - and 20x20 or more for the latest models in the book.The folds by OP (picutred on that cup) are from 15x15.With a paper large enough, you can understand the folds more easily, and when you are familiar with the technics involved in the model, you can decrease the paper size.
can anyone help me with the step 15-17 on the monkey figure?
>>602374''pull out'' - pull out whät?
>>602374>>60237617's "pull out": that's the corner of the initial square, which is inside the folded part.In step 18, the bottom-right part of the diagram is that corner.Try opening the layers and extract the inside corner. (Sorry, no paper at hand...)
>>602377hey thänks, I figured it out, I'm now at step 29 and struggling lol
>>6023851. Focus only on the long vertical valley fold (cf. picture).There will be annoying layers in the back, just don't mind them for now.2. Next, insert a finger where indicated by the large arrow, and push gently the layers from inside, starting to form montain folds on the upper part.3. Keep gently pushing, and with the other hand, control the mountain folds so that they align as expected.4. And you are done (previously mentioned mountain folds are in blue; the red line should be on the center crease line or so).Well, almost done, because you need to do the same on the right.Hope it helped a bit, but tell me if something is not clear!
>>602398mash'allah, you're seriously a peach anon!
>>602426Well, it is on topic, right?If you are the anon struggling with that monkey, did it help?
is anyone else struggling on rooster n0 14,15 and 16?I'vä tried folding these for a while and everytime the n0 14 looks different from the picture.
>>602427yes, I'll continue on it and post results. Love you, anon <3
>>602427ok now I'm stuck on steps 34-38
>>602428Can you post a picture which is not that dark? No need for that bright background screen, just the well-lighted model so we can see what is your problem.
>>602450Sure, let me get home at work rn
>>602432I assume step 36 is the problem. The blue line in each picture is the center line (I used another paper for the explanation and only folded the relevant parts to get a larger model for the pictures).1., 2. From step 35, open the rabbit ear.3. Refold on the long crease, going all the way up.4., 5. Now for the tricky part: insert a finger where indicated by the arrow, and start folding along the (non-existent) green valley fold. See pictures 6, 7, 8 for the final position of the red part (perpendicular or so to the center line).6. When that red part is placed as intended, keep it in place and flatten the rest of the layer (green mountain fold).Then, repeat on the other side.7., 8. Result.As before, tell me if it isn't helpful. That step is not so hard to do, but not so easy to explain.
>>602432Could you progress on your fold, or are you still stuck somewhere?
>>598954Can you explain what you did for step 19? It got me stuck too...
>>586453>>586444thank you guys
>>586444Thanks for the good quality books, it will help!
Velociraptorfirst time folding after 5 years or so
And parrot :)
>>582941Is the heart supposed to be smooth on both faces, with just a line splitting it height-wise? I'm beyond retarded and I just found out
>>605967Nevermind I figured it out
>>606977>>606978looks nice, especially with how small they arehow big was the paper?
>>607006Thanks!The dragon is from a square of about 8 cm of side, the rooster; ~3.5 cm.
I love the rat design, hes so cute!
can someone tell me how to do the step 18th on wyvern fold? i tried fold it several and still cant pass that step
>>608279 while squash folding step 18 a mountain fold starts to form within the sink you folded in step 17, this occurs at the end of the mountain folds illustrated in step 18 (where my pencil is pointing). Sorry if this sounds like gibberish im drunk and its 2 am. Also make sure you did step 17 properly cause sink folds are a bitch.
>>608293>>608294thank you dude, much appreciated
>>608293actually after folding it again, my problem is on step 17, i think i cant seem to get right, i cant get result like on your pict
Can someone help me on step 66. to 67.? Spider origami. >>608932
>>582941Can somebody help me with the Three-Headed-Dragon? I'm stuck in step 39~40.
>>596833>>606977I literally used a big paper sheet and I've been stuck in step 39~40
>>609020>>609021>>609022>>609023A bit late, but pic related might help a bit.First, squash the top part using creases of step 40; the bottom part of the model won't stay flat.Then, use the existing crease marks shown (not very clearly) in step 41 to flatten the model again.Pic related shows what creases to use, and bottom right part is a bottom biew of the model.
>>610054Not the anon who asked, but it was a great help for me, so thank you!
Hey guys, I found it really usefull. Thanks alot.Also, what kind of papet yall use? I dont think regular card or even notebook paper be the quality I expect.
>>611253You can use regular letter paper to fold all models in OP book. Result may not be pretty but it is good and not costly for training.Better paper like origami duo color paper is nice too.
>>611921.Do not say what it is not, for simple models if any paper, but for all those in the book it must be a special paper, super thin and resistant to folding.
>>611923If you think like that, maybe you need to practice more. All those models can be folded it regular printer paper; if you browse this thread; you'll see many models made from it.
Practice paper does not hold well but works good with complex models. Here is my shitty Zero Fighter by Kamiya.
I know this isn't he place to post these. But can /po/ guys help me with this >>>/g/92351877or recommend me a forum these kind of shit? I've checked the book binding subreddit but to no avail.
>>611924Pretty dragon you have there.How small is it possible to fold this one?
>>613946Depends on how thin your paper is, 15-20cm with 40-60gsm should be ok.
>>611924Just because they can be folded with printer paper it doesn't mean you should do that.Don't get me wrong, your model is fine but it would definitely look better if you used better paper. It doesn't even have to be expensive to look good: make and paint some double tissue
Can anyone help of rooster? Page 58 of the book (56/119 of the pdf). I'm getting stuck on step 17 and don't know what it's asking me to do
Tried a couple of models from the book. Was able to fold Wyvern, Cerberus and Chimera. Although the snake head on Chimera lacks some fine details. Folded them from 20-ish cm square, cut from A4. The sheet they stand on. Will try dragon later. Seems like my paper will allow it.
>>614074First of all you've made a mistake on step 13. You shouldn't have triangle peeking out from top.
>>614074Second, step 17 looks like this.
>>614088wow, thank you for the info graphics, apricate it, i'll give it a shot.
Well, it was intense two hours. The center of the mass is far forward, my dragon can't stand on rear legs as shown in the book. But it was a fun challenge nonetheless.
I managed to make a flying beast.Paper side is 15cm, maybe too small for me.Still not a bad result, I guess.
And just for information, better quality scans than OP pdf are still accessible thanks to the kind anon who shared them more than 2.5 years ago:>>586444
Anyone has instructions for Riccardo Colletto Semprevivo?
>>615256It is not a Montroll model so you should try a sharing thread, or perhaps make your own thread??
Hey anons, first timer here, is it normal to struggle so fucking much with making a regular ass crane? I do have awful fine motor skills, but i'm getting pretty frustrated
>>615968What part are you struggling with specifically?
>>615972Particularly the part where he folds the corners towards the bottom around 1:20 in this videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC_Szxdqh2YWhen i attempt it the paper just crumbles in my hands, i'm not sure if it's because of the paper (i did just try with regular notebook paper sheets) or if it's because of my motricity issuesWould heavier paper be better or worse for origami?