>>4181019
Fuck mate that's a kino shot. Are these in camera colors?

>>4181020
absolutely not unfortunately, I can't remember exactly what I did but it probably started from a cringe VSCO preset - exactly the sort of shenanigans I want to avoid. Cheers tho - desu that location (Bardenas Reales) is ridiculous at blue hour, but I wasn't prepared for the relentless clouds of mozzies so didn't stay as long as I would have liked. I could have done better :(

Yes, now you realize that you've been using film as a crutch because the colors and contrasts are magically right provided you don't fuck up exposure too much. You don't know how to digitally develop because either you don't know what you want precisely enough or you don't have enough experience digitally developing.

So the first step is to stop wanting your photo to "look like film" and instead realizing what you want is for your photo to look like a good photo. Then you practice envisioning what you want, and digital development to arrive to the image you envisioned.

Additionally, you can watch how the "shitty youtubers" made those presets that you are not able to make yourself, and get some experience this way.

>>4181021
Bro turn this into a project. That's fucking kino. New Topographics is kino.

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>>4181022
lol come on man, overexposed portra isn't just good because it's been taken 'properly' - you just cannot replicate that gorgeous highlight falloff on film

It doesn't matter how 'well exposed' a digital photo is, it's not going to have as much 'character' as an identically exposed photo on colour film - whether neg or slide.

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>>4181024
*cannot replicate that gorgeous highlight falloff on digital

You literally have a fuji camera, it has film presets built in.

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imo the main reason for a digital photo to look 'digital' is from auto wb settings that result in a weird middle of the road colour temp setting. We're used to the look of film, which was typically daylight balanced + had unique slight colour shifts depending on the specific film in question.

highlight falloff is a meme. use daylight balanced wb and tweak it to warmer/cooler and you'll be getting close to your photos not looking 'digital'.

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>>4181030
honestly I hate the fuji presets, I think they're pretty shiddy

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>>4181034
Are you customizing them to your liking though?

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>>4181037
good question - I guess that the aim of this thread is HOW do people make those tweaks to get to a point they're happy with? I'm ok at Lightroom but have definitely been using things like VSCO as a crutch, so haven't got into tweaking things like HSL, Colour Grading etc.

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>>4181043
I set up a few recipes in terms of colour temp, shift, and shadow/highlight contrast. The only things I need to do in post is crop, rotate, and resize.

Pic related is sooc

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I realise that there's no point trying to polish a turd - the lighting, subject, composition all have to work before I bother trying to make DEM TONES look good. But I still wanna know what methods people use to breathe a little life/character into their digi snapshits

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>>4181050
Either mess around with over the top film presets in C1/LR or go tinker with the in camera settings

You don’t buy a gfx100s to use the larp presets

Time to learn to color grade

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>>4181089
well yeah, hence this thread

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>>4181092
dose cool scenery

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>>4181097
So little in focus

>>4181046
this is pretty good man

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>>4181129
check EXIF for exposure settings, it's a fairly ok compromise impo

not a huge fan of the edit desu, altho mine is 100% too flat

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>>4181164
why the fuck does T(o) B(e) H(onest) get autocorrected to desu lol, fucking 4chan.

might as well drop more photos while I'm here, it's been years

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>>4181166
this photo is amazing
the compression of perspective and tight framing make it look like a movie set and not real location

>>4181022
The photos actually demonstrate this point quite well.

>buys gfx 100s
>still shitting files out through lightroom
money doesn't buy sense

>>4181260
whats wrong with lightroom

>>4181260
Which alternative do you recommend?

>>4181251
Thanks dude. It’s the Quiraing on the Isle of Skye. It’s such a mad landscape.

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i dont have any advice anon but really nice shots

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It has been said that this camera has the most "reach" aka digital zoom and you can get 3-4x your focal length cropping and still end up with a good looking photo, because /p/oorfags are obsessed with not having to buy zoom lenses.

Have you tried that yet?

>>4181324
The files do crop down incredibly well, yes. I haven’t tested any specific cropping limits tho.

I’ll drop a link to a full res raw so you can see for yourself if you like

>>4181261
>>4181262
you retards really haven't heard of capture one?

>>4181378
>05/22/23(Mon)20:48:08 No.4181261
>05/22/23(Mon)20:48:25 No.4181262
look how fucking fast these retards jumped on me lmao

>>4181378
i have but why is it better? just say it if it's so obvious

>>4181324
it doesn't, same reach as a 16mp MFT camera
mount its lens on a 20mp mft and things already look bigger

>>4181260
it's not x-tranny so there's no need for cope software

>>4181420
>butbbbbbut if
No one asked you nophoto retard

>>4181165
lovely shot

>>4181420
Same reach? what do you mean?

The detail and ability to crop is insane. By far the best I've seen on a digi cam. This photo is with the 45mm which is sharp but doesn't out resolve the sensor. I also have the 110mm f/2 which I mostly use for boring paid work but is FUCKING INSANE. It outresolves the 100mp sensor and everything has crispy pixelated outlines. Fookin mental

Here's a Google Drive link for the full res RAF file of this photo: >>4181166

https://drive.google.com/file/d/147_DjKNLf87jqUVTiXSEYz5bLPPpVsTn/view?usp=share_link

Main issue with the cam is that when shooting 16 bit raw the files are 200MB a pop, so I'm getting through SSDs at an alarming rate.

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guess I'll dump some more

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>>4181260
>lightroom
its impressive how one 2016 version of lightroom doing meh demosaicing in x-trans raw files keeps being parrotted and echoed.
gotta get those hot 4chan takes, hey.

>>4181430
please ignore canon tripfag. he’s not very smart and has little experience taking photos on digital. only on cheap 90s film SLR. presumed broken because he stopped posting photos right after he got it.

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>>4181434
The lightroom meme mostly pertains to colors these days. If you profile your own camera with a swatch card the issue is mostly fixed. Lightroom is the origin point of >sony skin tones.

If a tripfag is hating capture one it’s because of this, it’s indirect fuji-sony hate
>Grrrr adobe decides wut camera good!
Also capture one is easier to pirate.

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I tried a film edit

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>>4181462
for me, this is a little harsh and the colours aren't too pleasing for my tastes - but I'd still be interested in learning what you did. What was your process here?

Hopefully this thread can be about sharing knowledge/ideas.

I've had some limited success with variations of the following:

- raise shadows, lower highlights
- HSL stuff:
- Reds: hue towards orange, sat down
- Greens: hue shift way towards blue, saturation down, luminance down
- Magenta and purple saturation wayyyy down

>>4181412
I used LR from v2 to Classic, and then switched to C1 about 5 years ago. Back then, LR was really lagging in terms of advanced tools, especially for color, but it has come a long way. C1 still has more advanced stuff like the skin tone uniformity tool, the culling view, focus mask, better overlay functionality, etc. Lightroom's biggest advantage in my eyes has been with cloud integration, but C1 has improved there a lot. If you're a beginner, there's definitely a lot more tutorials / resources / presets / add-ons for LR.

Sessions > Catalogs, better for my own organization, and better for working across different computers, when travelling, or with my NAS.
Love not having to switch between develop and library. With LR if I want to compare multiple images, I can either view 2 and have 1 of them switch, or grid view and magnify. With C1, I can just select however many I want and display just those, and I still have my full editing options while in grid view too. C1 also has a completely customizable UI, so I can arrange, order, and group tools and buttons exactly how I want, and hide things I never use.

Some things I just prefer how C1 does them, like noise reduction, sharpening, structure/clarity, using layers, applying adjustments to other images. Tethering is much better. Does still offer non-sub pricing too for those that care. Performance wise, I've had far less crashes / hiccups with C1 compared to LR too.

>>4181430
>Same reach? what do you mean?
I mean that if you have the same lens on it and a 20MP MFT camera and want to see something from a certain position (let's say a bird 10m away) it will be bigger and more detailed on the MFT.

>>4181476
https://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/mpmyth.htm
One needs at least a doubling of linear resolution or film size to make an obvious improvement. This is the same as quadrupling the megapixels.

16mp to 20mp MFT is IMPERCEPTIBLE. You can pixel peep and squint at the optimum aperture you probably won't take even half your photos at to look for the extra pickles but it won't be a reality based improvement. There is also the diffraction limit, so the more pixels you pack in to a sensor area, the less you see the benefit because the airy disks are larger than the photosites. No additional detail for most photos. And the limits of the lens exist, so packing on the photosites will not reveal unseen details but just use more pixels to show you how soft your lens is at a ludicrous zoomed in perspective.

More important sensor specs are bit depth and DR for highlight/shadow recovery to bring digital blow outs back into the 8 stop range that can make it into print. Megapixels are not that important. Making the sensor and lens larger is the only way to reliably get noticeable improvements in resolution that are relevant outside of pixel peeping because the FOV is larger and therefore the image is larger, and contains more details because it contains more image. So, don't worry about it.

Now GTFO with your mega-gay-pickle wars back to /gear/.

>>4181435
nice fanfic, "anon"

>>4181483
you got btfo

its time for you to go start a thread for your own photos byeeee

>>4181481
20mp mft sensors are noticeable tech generation ahead compared to the 16mp. Even bigger difference than the new 24mp vs 20mp.

>>4181430
>size: 38x29in
wew lad. impressive but it's hard to imagine needing all these pixels.

>>4181481
>Ken Rockwell
kek, he's not a good source for anything technical. Good way to discredit your own post with a troll article from based Ken.

>>4181492
>uh no i won't listen to a photographer whose portfolio dwarfs mine and who has used every camera on earth
>i will continue IFing about gear
your loss.

>>4181476
lmao ok sorry I didn't realise you were trolling sorry

>>4181501
>>4181508
I'm not. Keeping everything else the same, the MFT has more reach. Does the GFX have other advantages? Sure, but reach isn't one. You'll get more (a LOT more) of the scene in the same picture though with the GFX. But when I'm photographing an Ural owl, I don't really want more of the surroundings for it's already small.
>>4181501
Begone, troll

>>4181521
>ken rockwell is a troll
He is correct however. 16mp to 20mp isn’t noticeable.

>>4181523
Except it is. Specially if you print but also any time you view at 100%.

>>4181534
That's "especially", panty boy

>>4181537
Well thank you for that, I actually learned something from you today. Maybe you should talk more about English grammar and less about technical aspects of photography.
Ken Rockwell often plays fast and loose with the facts and makes wild claims like saying that AF Nikons have no aperture feeler.

>>4181521
did you forget to put your trip back on so that you could continue arguing with yourself or something

>>4181019
>take digital photo
>print it out
>take photo with film camera
>develop it
you're welcome

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I'm home now so might as well turn this 'ol trip back on

I'm ready for the pounding

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>>4181541
No, I switched devices and forgot to put the trip on.

What is reach?

>>4181546
What gearfags talk about to cope with spending thousands of dollars on extra megapixels for their small sensor baby camera

>>4181462
to be honest I don't love the colors either, and it's not something that I would use as a final product. my goal was "make it look like film" more than "make it aesthetic and slightly filmic", which is more often my goal.

here's what I did
* warmed up the white balance and added a bit of magenta
* set levels, which ended up being just lowering the white point
* added some vignetting correction
* color balance tool: shadow shifted towards blue, midtone shifted towards red, highlight shifted towards yellow
* dehaze a little because I thought the mountains to the right looked washed out
* added a little saturation
and then the following are the core "film" edits:
* set sharpening to 0
* negative structure (-30 in this case) to reduce detail
* film grain tool: silver rich, impact 100, granularity 35 (I would've used a lower granularity for a larger image export, but the way capture one works, you need to increase the strength when exporting at smaller sizes to make the grain keep the same perceived strength)

if I was going more for aesthetics, I probably would've brought the image overall in a cooler direction and tried to reduce the greens because that fits more with my personal taste. I generally try to directly edit colors as little as possible, or not at all outside of white balance and contrast/saturation/fuji preset.

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>>4181568 was supposed to be in reply to >>4181473
for aesthetics I would go for a b&w edit of this image, because the yellow-green moss is just too present for me to like it in color. yellow-green is like my least favorite color.

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>>4181572
Try b&w with blue filter. It'll darken the yellows up.

>>4181165
kino

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>>4181606
true, I was using the fuji yellow filter monochrome preset but doing the b&w using capture one's b&w tool and adjusting down the yellow and green does add more contrast into the mountains. and I can still turn down the cyan and blue a bit to keep the sky darkening effect.

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>>4181031
Also digital noise is much finer than analog grain. ISO100 on digital is like ISO25 on Film

>>4181412
The >>4181421 is right, the meme about Fuji-C1 being a better match than lightroom is because C1 demosaicing produces less mazing artifacts for X-trans pattern aka worms. GFX not affected, it's bayer.

>>4181546
shorthand for the resolving power of the system when looking at distant subjects
when talking about a sensor it's determined by pixel density, AA filters and color filter arrays or lack thereof

>>4181901
>pixel density
no. optical resolving power. then signal to noise ratio. then pixel density in concordance with the diffraction limited aperture. for real world photography high megapixel density systems lose their advantages fast at smaller and smaller apertures. and it's important to note that although you can express the numbers in a way that gives the impression of a large difference (the pixel pitch has gone up by TWO!), the total megapixel count must be at least doubled on the same sensor area for an appreciable difference, and in normal viewing conditions (not extreme crops) normal people have difficulty appreciating anything less than a quadrupling while photographers and people with good eyesight are the only ones noticing the benefits of a doubling

ergo 24->36mp pointless 24->45mp about enough to care, but on aps-c 26->40mp most photos do not benefit especially not with fujinon consumer grade optics

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While I love my z7ii I wish i could replicate the results I get shooting provia/velvia 50 with my gw690iii.

I self dev so the dev cost doesn't really matter and I stocked up on provia/velvia when it was 10 dollars a roll. I really wish I bought more. My cooler is looking lowish.

They use custom luts
Presets
Plug-ins like dehancer

Love the pics OP. Makes me wanna get a GFX too. I wonder if the 50mp GFX can get the same results that I see here on my screen and if the difference is only about print quality.

>>4181931
When the GFX50s came out, it was barely ahead of equally fancy FF. Now it's actually slightly behind in DR/tonality since sensor tech moved forward. Remember it's less than half the difference of APS-C to FF, so besides the wide FOV and huge print size/cropping potential it's very subtle.

>>4181931
I feel kinda like an idiot for buying a M240 with an ancient FF sensor over a modern medium format GFX 50R.

But at the same time I'm too onions to carry around such a heavy camera.

>>4181024
is that somewhere in italy? those shitty sign poles are somewhat familiar

>>4181972
nah, Spain, right next to Salto de Roldán. This was about 30 mins after I proposed (she sad yes, getting hitched this August)

>>4181931
As far as I'm aware, unfortunately it's only the 100megapixel GFX cameras that have new(er) sensor tech - the 50s aren't really worth getting over something like an R5 of A7RV

I am tempted to trade it in for an R5, honestly, which would be SO much more practical for the work that makes me money. But I ain't gonna. I love the 100S too damn much for the work I enjoy (which doesn't make me any money at all lol)

>>4181992
>the 50s aren't really worth getting over something like an R5 of A7RV

how so when they have a physically bigger sensor?

OK I have now made a fake film-y preset that I'm fairly happy with, because it doesn't overdo it and has no added grain. Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/13U7R3fjR4AaJW_fI2NI8eeoKFnpuZtW5/view?usp=share_link

>>4181998
Just because the sensor is bigger, it doesn't automatically mean they'll have better effective resolution or DR.

I happen to appreciate the feel of the slightly larger sensor, but it's VERY subtle, and without a fast medium-wide lens in the GFX lineup, it's really hard to get the MF look.

Having said that, I use a canon 50/1.2L on my GFX with the finger adapter and it's great fun despite the horrible vignetting.

>>4182024
>but it's VERY subtle

is it? Some anon posted some fuji gfx 50 photos and I could tell right away. the DoF and tones just scream medium format

>>4181439
>>4181440
these are unreal

Don't use auto ISO, pick a common film speed (100, 200, 400, 800) and stick with it for a whole shoot. This isn't about grain, this about constraining yourself to shots that could possibly have ever existed on film.

>>4182033
Dude, equivalence is everything. You can get the so-called "medium format look" from full frame with a fast enough lens. The "tones" are just placebo or editing, to get different tones you need different tech like Foveon.

>>4182131
Before the advent of digital, ISO 1600 color film was easy to get. And even now, movie directors use pushed 500 stock all the time.

>>4182138
Lol no. First off, medium format gets a wider FOV out of longer focal lengths but with the same long lens shallow DOF. And the lenses are normally slower, usually f2 equivalent. A "fast enough lens" would not have the same look, just a similar degree of background blur, but DOF falloff resolution, contrast, and aberrations would be entirely different.

Second off, the tones are not placebo, bit depth (gradations) is measurable and the camera with more bit depth will preserve much finer gradients. I have seen banding on modern full frame cameras. Neither is dynamic range, which means you get less noise and more detail in the shadows.

You are LITERALLY engaging in sensorlet cope because something is better than full frame. Fucking lmfao dude.

>>4182141
>Lol no. First off, medium format gets a wider FOV out of longer focal lengths but with the same long lens shallow DOF. And the lenses are normally slower, usually f2 equivalent. A "fast enough lens" would not have the same look, just a similar degree of background blur, but DOF falloff resolution, contrast, and aberrations would be entirely different.
You couldn't tell, specially with how little the size difference is between FF and 44x33 "medium format". It's a 0.79 crop factor. Look at the GFX lineup. The only fast one is the 80/1.7. That's equivalent to a 65/1.4. You'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between it and a Konica 57mm/1.4 on full frame that's just 100 bucks.
>Second off, the tones are not placebo, bit depth (gradations) is measurable and the camera with more bit depth will preserve much finer gradients. I have seen banding on modern full frame cameras. Neither is dynamic range, which means you get less noise and more detail in the shadows.
The tones are placebo though.
>You are LITERALLY engaging in sensorlet cope because something is better than full frame. Fucking lmfao dude.
It's not cope, it's understanding how equivalence works. I don't care about sensorlettery, I would unironically get an Olympus E-5 over any current Fuji.

>>4182154
tldr sensorlet cope & irrationally angry at fuji for being popular with actual photographers

>>4182166
>fuji
>popular
lol, that's like saying Pentax is popular. Even OM System outsells Fuji.

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>>4182173
Uh oh retard read the japan only charts again

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>>4182173
canon outsells nikon, but nikon is more common with actual photographers
fuji outsells olympus anyways but fuji is wildly popular with actual artists. less so with soulless gear heads that aren’t capable of making art or engaging in creative thought.

>>4182176
>not even 5%
>popular
Good to see Sony isn't even close to reaching Canon too. For all the FUD about Nikon going down they basically sell as much as Sony.

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>>4182179
>moves goalpost

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>>4182180
Not buying your "survey"

>>4182182
>cries when btfo
if you’re going to be a brand fanboy try being less wrong and maybe taking better photos. like of your dog or something.

>>4182183
The figures are just so wildly off it's hard to take them seriously.

>>4182186
>noooo I can’t be wrong!
Take a drive. Bring a camera for once.

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>>4182138
Don't tell us nophoto, show us

>>4181031
> Fucked up auto white balance
Nailed it. Auto WB is never good because it’s simply driving towards a ‘mean’ for the image. Even if you’re going to develop the raw files I think it’s worth the time to adjust WB before you shoot to better visualize the scene.

>>4181031
Split toning goes a long way

>>4182194
Auto WB fucks everything up even if you aren't trying to mimic film. Move the camera slightly and get a new object or more sky in the frame? The greens are now yellowed for that frame. On some cameras it's gradual so you get in-between shots. Or maybe the greens are blued. "brand" colors (in raw, assuming same gen sensors and same CFA/sensor type) is almost always AWB related too so if you haven't exchanged your nikon for a canon for a sony for a nikon for a sony yet, you may be saved. Once you dial in the presets for daylight and tungsten you don't need much more that often. I don't like using shade and cloud WB, because shade and cloudy days have different color casts day to day anyways. Using a real warming filter and only if you need it has a different look (entirely different color data hits the sensor, it's not 100% replicable in editing).

If you ever reach that point you may find professionals never even use those presets, they will set WB off a white card and keep that as long as the lighting doesn't change dramatically.

Using a fixed WB is right there with using the AEL button on the list of shit everyone should be told to do earlier. Most good cameras should have a "program shift" mode if you have AEL enabled as well. If you can, put the AEL function as far out of the way as possible so you don't turn it off. It's still faster to adapt to new scenes than shooting manual. And traditionally, most people in the film days shot a scene with the same exposure settings and ignored the bouncy needle as the camera moved around.

>>4182190
Please, you know he can't. He doesn't own the camera to or a camera period.

>>4182187
>take a drive
Hey, I remember you.

>>4182190
this is fucking beautiful - shot on film? The colours, depth, lighting are fucking great. That mundane concrete block looks like a sacred monolith

>>4182057
Thanks anon, these are actually both panoramas which does feel a bit obscene with a 100MP camera lol

>>4182131
I absolutely disagree, I love auto ISO as long as I've set it up properly. Seems silly to set an arbitrary constraint just because an older medium was restricted in the same way

>>4182180
>>4182179
>>4182178
>>4182176
do any of you seriously give a fuck what brand of camera anyone else uses?! kinda cringe

>>4182198
>>4182194
true. I need to stop using AWB

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>>4181914
looked like shit in the other thread, looks like shit here too

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>>4182284
c'mon it ain't that bad

it ain't amazing, but it ain't bad

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>>4182291
it is. i've seen more dynamic rage from digishits. bet that nice white was was definitely magenta too. faggot-tier film worship.

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this was a minute or so after I pressed a button to put fentanyl directly into his bloodstream

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>>4182268
Appreciate that man. Yeah RZ with the 65mm.

>>4182313
You’re making me want to get into DMF with this.

>>4181031
This
The so-called "film look" is just

>25 % warm WB
>25 % a wonky ("character") lens with tons of chromatic aberration
>25 % slightly misplaced focus
>25 % nostalgic subjects like old cars or people dressed in 1970s color palette

>>4181439
>>4181462
this is the stuff

>>4181019
>>4181164
>>4181165
>>4181440
>>4182291
>>4182314
desu I don't give a shit about film replication but these are some great shots

>>4182270
I don’t give a fuck but it’s funny because cANON’s self worth is tied up in people not using fujifilm. He argues against it like he’s going to crack and start shooting estrogen if fuji is any more popular than he thinks it is.

>>4182296
its provia retard, there is no dynamic range. and im not gonna use a GND to appease (you)

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>>4182314
i was about to ask how you got such incredible colors then i looked up the GFX100S and saw that it is an $8,000 medium format camera
i think i will just stick to my fuji gw690 for film and shitty full-frame mirrorless cameras for now

>>4182527
That's not the camera, it's the photographer. You can use that camera and get shit photos like the Angry Retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOC-VRfCt0Y

>>4182554
>Jason Lanier
Holy shit he's real?

>>4182557
A living meme with fedora included, but Ken is so shit he makes Jason look good in comparison.

>>4182554
this guy is embarrassing to other greeks. I apologize on behalf of him.

>>4182589
Wait who's Greek?

These photos are nice but on a technical level I’m not seeing a “crop medium format look” that makes this camera special, 100mp aside. It would be killer for forensics, archival, and art reproduction (because 100mp) though.

>>4182592
the fat bald dude with a fedora with the gfx100s, and its embarrassing for other greeks cause he flaunts it on his channel.

>>4182611
That's because crop medium format is barely bigger than full frame 35mm and because he's shooting a 45/2.8 lens, basically like having a 35/2.3 on full frame so nothing super special about it.
You could get similar results on MFT with the Zuiko 17/1.2, just with less reach (cropping ability) because you're at an equivalent focal length yet have a lot fewer pixels to work with.
People here just want to believe you can buy your way into a look, it's more about knowing what you're doing. The camera matters very little unless it has no equivalent in other systems.

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>>4182633
Nophoto you keep telling us. Are you still unable to show us?

>>4182695
It's you who seem unable to show anything with the so-called MF look. Until you show anything reasonably unique there's no reason to assume the format offers anything other than extra image size.

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>>4182697
So you can show us but you're choosing not to?

>>4182630
But the fedora guy had the Sony lol.
Also Wheeler doesn't sound very Greek to me.
>>4182701
I suppose that's the case, yes.

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>>4182703
Sounds like more of a no-photo issue, then?

ughhhh this is goals

>>4182712
hell yeah brother. noice.

I really really fucking miss shooting film

>>4182703
i swear i heard the dude with the bald head that sits at his desk (Ken wheeler?) claim he's greek in a video where he said nikon is folding next year.

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>>4182751
Isn't Wheeler germanic? i recall seeing both his parents were descendants but he doesn't seem very texan to me
The old lady that gave her heritance to him was a swede i think

>>4182523
tell me how film is good, again?

>>4182777
If you have to ask, you were never going to get it. There's more to photography than dynamic range and sharpness.
>>4182712
No, it's a "nothing to do with technique" issue. I have zero incentive to post photographs by to someone like you, except as a form of trolling.

>>4182782
dude, why the fuck are you incessantly bickering about such trivial things. I cannot imagine being as bored and boring as you are.

go away

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>>4182787
>responding to a tripfag

>>4182782
are you mixing up your tripcodes?

>>4182787
Look Chuck, I'm not hating on your stuff. I'm just saying anyone who thinks these pictures showcase the capabilities of medium format and that one needs a medium format camera to make these is misinformed.
The merits are yours, not the camera. You got there when the light was right. You were the one who decided where to put the camera and what to point it towards. And if you were given a "lesser" MFT camera with an equivalent lens, the pictures would look pretty much the same unless viewed at 100%. And I could give your camera to a clueless retard who doens't know what he's doing like Ken Wheeler and the output would be abysmal. All I'm saying is “It's the Indian, not the arrow”.

>>4182799
Are you mixing up your pills? I have some Tylenol I need to mix to make some (Pa)rodinal

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>>4182805
I see a digislug shitting on film and I have to call them out. Film, like reflex, is a purer form of photography.

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>>4182804
Jesus Christ, if you want to get experimental at least do caffenol.

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>>4182801
I didn't think for a second you were hating on me or my photos, but it's still mind boggling that you're bothering with such inane squabbles

>>4182822
Well, it's fun
>>4182818
Enjoy your excess grain
>pic
ayy lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5mKps_pTrs

>>4182633
>MFT would look just like a GFX
lol no
>le high res blurry line full frame btfo

>>4182864
At 100% no, at the sizes we're looking at here they would be identical. You can cope all you want about how your photography would be as good as Charlie's if you only had a GFX but in truth it would still suck ass because you're not being where you need to be, at the time you have to be there to achieve it.

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>>4182611
>“crop medium format look”
>>4182633
>crop medium format
Gentlemen, I think you mean large format.

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>>4182782
If I had more threads made than photos posted, I would be scared too.

>>4182879
Cinema tier misleading advertising. You know, in cinema they call 36x24mm "large format".
Only PhaseOne tells the truth about 44x33.

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>>4182888
But where else can you get gapped microlenses these days?

>>4182801
>I'm just saying anyone who thinks these pictures showcase the capabilities of medium format and that one needs a medium format camera to make these is misinformed.
100% agree, even as GFX owner myself. Same could be said for 99% of full frame shots too.

>>4182875
Even downsized micro four thirds falls behind fast and the details normally have a soft fringe. It's a tight crop on the lens and since optics have advanced slower than sensors you get the usual thing MFT copers cope about
>it resolves the aberrations better so it still has more detail, CHUD
Yeah but people don't want to see those aberrations forced on every photo so us non-retarded people will stick to fuji APS-C and sony/nikon full frame, and if we want aberrations we will put a $50 chink lens on. If we want the MFT look we will crop. You can crop a Z7 II to look just like a lumix gf1 with low-MP character, or zoom in less and it will look better than an gh6 with the same mp. Just less zoom. But 0.5x, it's literally 4 steps difference. It's nice.

If a GFX has some aberrations and noise at 100% resizing will obliterate them. MFT maintains visibly low quality, I mean retro character, even as you shrink it to 4k, even with 26mp. MFT: good for government surveillance spooks, mediocre for photography. Use a nikon P1000 for everything if you disagree.

>>4182905
GH6 birder there will never get it through his thick skull. Don’t waste time arguing with him. Everyone has told him. People have supplied original examples proving that his opinions range from the opposite of reality to spergouts over borderline imperceptible differences.

If you want to give him a (you) just point out common sense. The top 4 brands with professionals are nikon, canon, sony, and fuji in that order. Then point out his lack of photographic outputHis opinion = invalid because he is not a photographer.

>>4182904
>100% agree, even as GFX owner myself. Same could be said for 99% of full frame shots too.
And I completely agree with your statement about full frame.
>>4182905
I'm not going to keep shitting up an art thread with gear technobabble, your reply will be in the gear thread.

>>4182909
Your reply will be in the gear thread too.
>Then point out his lack of photographic output
My photographic output doesn't belong on 4chan.

>>4182904
i disagree. An enormous number of my full frame shots are at ISO levels that would be totally unusable on crop, and maybe 25% are cropped to extend the "reach" of my 24-70 to about 105mm. i have printed dozens of such photos I took at ISO 3200 and dozens more taken at ISO 6400. When I print crops I don't even get to resize the image because the print size simply doesn't allow it without an even larger quality hit. It just looks better. And good thing i can enjoy that, because my full frame DSLR was less than half the price of the average APS-C camera /p/ shills and even cheaper than GH6.

Then again I'm a 20 something year old boomer. I didn't get into photography to post small images on the internet. I wanted tangible pictures of people I met and places I'd visited hung up on the wall. If I had /p/ or IG post standards I would have bought a canon powershot or a ricoh GR II. Or a better phone

If someone had an even more extreme case, regularly intending to use ISO 6400-12800 shots for prints, or cropping to double the focal length, the GFX100s could be a useful camera artistically. It's also extremely useful for scanning. That's to say nothing of printing full size files, because who the fuck prints a meter wide at 300dpi? No one will stand close enough to appreciate that, they wouldn't be able to see even half the photo.

>>4182923
>An enormous number of my full frame shots are at ISO levels that would be totally unusable on crop
Post some examples.
>If someone had an even more extreme case, regularly intending to use ISO 6400-12800 shots for prints, or cropping to double the focal length, the GFX100s could be a useful camera artistically.
Nah, FF still better for lowlight because of the faster lenses.

>>4182923
Do you not understand equivalence yet? You have to halve the f-number and focal length to get the same shot on MFT. The only time you get a noise hit is when you stop down in equivalent terms. That's the beauty of equivalence, it accounts for everything. Crop medium format is generally worse for low light, because the fastest lenses Fuji offers are f/1.4 equivalent.

>>4183012
Real equivalence is using the lens from the smaller camera and cropping. Realer equivalence is not needing the exact same DOF>>4183012
because that’s stupid and no one does that.

I love when photo posters instantly get trips to stfu

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