>>4150780
>External SD card reader
Apple's influence on the laptop market has been a disaster

>>4150784
I dunno, I got my first apple product in the M1 Pro Mackbook pro, and it has a dedicated charging port, a nice and fast SD reader, HDMI (though not 2.1) output, 3.5 jack and 3 usb-c ports.
You do NOT need more.

>>4150801
Apple omitted those features until people started copying them and then brought them back, along with a compatibility breaking chip change for nerds

Its a moneylenders trick

>>4150813
It was Intel's fault, they have pushed the ultrabook concept to compete with macbook air, but instead it replaced the full size laptop.

>>4150813
>compatibility breaking chip change
Rosetta 2, anon. You don't even notice it working in the background

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waiting on a passthrough optical filter to put over the CMOS. in my very humble opinion, all digital cameras should come without any wavelength filtering inside the camera body, and lenses should simply come with removable infrared lowpass filters instead

Some datapoiint from Sigma
>Full Frame lens demand is strong, APS-C lens demand is in decline and MFT lens demand in sharp decline.

https://phototrend.fr/2023/02/sigma-cpplus-2023-interview-kazuto-yamaki-nikon-z/

current cameras are a Bronica ETRSi, Ricoh GR, and a D7100 (35 1.8G, 50 1.8D)

i find Bronica/D7100 too big, and the ricoh is fun but doesn't have the control that i want.

would like to get something that is easy to carry around, but capable. Bessa R, XT-5? any other ideas?

>>4151026
contax g1,

>>4150942
what about uwas and fisheyes

>>4150780
Give me 3x ush-ii card reader for type c usb.

got myself a decent little film setup and now I'm thinking about copping a digital camera. I see a lot of dick-suck around the x100v and I do like how it looks, but what do I get out of it compared to my gf's old nikon d3400 aside from film presets and more megapixels?

>>4151192
it's more fun, that's all

>>4151192
You can use Nikon's Picture Control Utility software to make your own presets that you can load onto camera. You actually have more options / control than Fuji with that. If you're considering changing cameras based off the jpg output, consider just learning how to edit, and then you can just get whatever look you want with any camera.
The x100v's are a nice compact size, and give you an OVF to look through. They're a bad fit for most people though.
If you don't care about the slightly smaller size, you can get essentially the same look out of most other Fuji's like X-T30, X-T3/4, X-S10, X-E4, as they have similar sensors and processors. Can find these cheaper and lets you use different lenses.
If you care about the OVF, can also look at the X-Pro's which give you lens interchangeability.

>>4151120
well, i also wish that rear lens filters were a thing. if people could easily attach a fixed linear polarizer to the back of the lens, and a rotating linear polarizer to the front, that'd be very cool. same principle with fisheye lenses, a rear-mounted IR cutoff that comes with the lens. all you'd need is a relatively cheap 650nm cutoff filter somewhere in the optical path, ideally not buried in the camera body electronics

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Deuter made a camera back, is it any good? Jaypack Pro 36

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>>4151528
all their other backpacks are focused on hiking only and hiking backpacks are top tier in terms of comfort. Has anyone ever tried this one?

>>4150784
>laptop
I genuinely don't think laptops have had SD card readers since 2012. Why does it matter, anyway? Desktops don't have an integrated SD card reader either

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>>4151547
>desktops don't have an integrated SD card reader either
U wot

i use that anker sd card reader, has a slot for sd an [spoiler]micro sd[/spoiler], as well as usb and usb-c connections on the respective ends.

>>4151528
yeah, the camera compartment zips on the outside makes this an automatic failure. Bare minimum a good camera backpack will zip on the same side as the straps.

>>4151528
I can't imagine having enough shit/big enough to actually fill that is the problem

I have a full frame body, 3 lenses, a flash, 3 batteries, chargers, and cables and might only use 1/3 of that

>>4151013
its getting so cheap to get into full frame, especially with older used mirrorless bodies and pretty ok primes like the sony mini-Gs and nikon kit lenses, that i'm not surprised. meanwhile the value proposition of crop is getting worse as retarded companies try and sell it as more premium than it really is.

like fuji should have stuck with a 26mp sensor, worked on significantly improving readout and noise like with the xh2s, and pushed cheaper cameras with that technology. no one benefits from 40mp on aps-c. if they were going to go full pixel peeper they should have released a budget 50mp medium format camera

>>4151576
The premo crop lens prices from fuji/olympus/panasonic hurt the most. The images are not as impressively, clinically sharp as $1000 spent on brand name FF glass would get you. The end result looks kind of like a $200 budget lens for FF. But it still costs $1000. Everyone I know with a fuji uses the cheap glass.

>>4151569
you could store your tripod inside the bag (you know so its not obvious you lug around expensive camera gear. So you wont paint a target.
Does not seem to be carry on compatible for flights though.
But if its as comfortable as their hiking backpacks it could be worthwhile. Most of the time you carry your backpack, so it should be as comfortable as possible.

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What is THE cheapest, sharpest, longest telephoto I can adapt to a sony camera?

I want to look at the moon and stuff

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>>4151587
a telescope with a camera mount adapter.

>>4151587
>cheapest, sharpest, longest
Those 3 are opposites.

But the Samyang AF 135mm decently matches that to some degree.

>>4151598
Not LONG enough.
>those are opposites
Not when adapting older lenses.

I probably won't ever be upgrading from the A6500 at this rate.
I like the the way the magnesium body feels, and the weight it's at.

And apparently those incompetent retards at Sony don't want me to upgrade either.

>>4151601
I just copped a minolta 300mm/4.5 off ebay for $90, seen a few of the 500mms for similar prices but minty looking ones aren't cheap

>>4150780
ITT:
>betamales too pussy to make their own threads
lol pathetic

>>4151586
This is obviously a hiking camera backpack, not a city tourist camera backpack
Plus it can be opened from behind, which doesn't exactly disencourage theft of any kind
Storing a tripod inside the camera backpack is not a smart idea. It won't fit with the cube and getting it in and out will be a pain in the ass

If you want a sleek, comfortable casual photography backpack, get a Shimoda Explore v2 or a Wandrd Prvke
If you want one that is made for hiking, try the Shimoda Action X or the Wandrd Fernweh
Or just browse Lowepro's and F-Stop's extensive catalogs

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I'm looking at the Tamron 24-70mm f/2.8
MPB has one that is in "Excellent" Condition for £439, and one that is "Like New" for £479.
The "Like New" comes with a lens hood.
An after market JJC branded lens hood is anywhere from £10 to £15 on eBay.
Is the OEM lens hood worth the extra £40, keeping in mind the condition of the lens is apparently better?
There's also one for £384 that comes with a lens hood, but the focus and zoom grips aren't looking great. Is this an easy fix?

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>>4151794
>those rubber rings
Y U C K
U
C
K

is there any medium format film camera that'll work with my minolta MD lenses? I assume full frame lenses won't work on medium format cameras but I still gotta ask

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Why am I even bothering with gear that is way past the diminishing returns pricepoint when PP and AI-denoise do the heavy lifting for 0 bucks anyway. And nobody looks at my photos anyway, or maybe my dad on his crappy laptop screen.

>>4151994
Because it's fun to take out new gear and photography is not about photos but about making them

>>4151994
You are clearly having the wrong mindset for this hobby. The goal is not to take photos, it's to collect the gear.

>>4151587
200-600

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>>4152013
Thisssssssss

>>4151529
>>4151528
My Lowepro Flipside 400AW has those side flaps, they are nice and give a good support for hiking but in warm weather they become a hassle since not detachable.
They also serve a purpose of holding your backpack when you rotate it forward to access your gear without taking it off, but the Flipside has the compartment opening in the back. The Deuter has it in front so it is a stupid design and I wouldn't look at it twice.

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i bought this bad boy yesterday for 60 bucks.
Its actually really good and built better than most of the new olympus cameras.

I sold my Canon 6D setup to get a Fujifilm XT3 setup with a kit lens of 18-55 because I couldn't handle the unsusable auto focus anymore of my canon.
Seems the Fuji doesn't meet my standards: cant see raw files in preview on my mac, small toyish looking, lenses kinda expensive, ISO performance, ..

I live in Japan now and take good pics but probably will switch back to another camera once I get back home in a few months. Realistically, which camera+lens can I go for when I'm on a budget? I'm thinking around 1600 euro maybe a bit more, preferably less. Canon R? Nikon Z6? Sony?

Thoughts? Or should I just cope and keep the Fuji as I may be overreacting?

>>4152628
Fuji does suck and you’ll inspire a lot ot YOUDONTMEEDMOREGEARFAG buyers remorse cope complaining about it. Probably get a sony a7c.

>>4152628
fuji is very well known for crappy af and overpriced lenses. it’s why so many fujifags just use cheap manual glass.

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Thinking of buying a Sony A7ii. I see they cost only $899 new. Im shooting Canon already but want to try Sony out and see if I like it (and then may consider switching altogether). Is it worth trying with a Sony A7II or will I be disappointed? I would probably get the new 20-70mm f4G with it for an additional $1100. Probably also a 50mm f1.8, and maybe the 40mm f2.5.

I would mainly buy it to try some Sony lenses out and see if Sony is for me.

Anything I should be worried about regarding A7ii? Whats bad about the camera?

>>4152660
bad af bad battery life bad ui bad durability. even sony fans consider it junk along with the original a7 and the non-R a7iii. sony is being sued over this + the a7iii's reliability right now.

>>4152660
Do not buy: A7, A7R, A7RII, A7II, A7III, A7S, A7SII, any A6XXX or A5XXX
Good to go but do not get wet: A7RIII, A7SIII
Good to go 100%: A7IV, A7RIV, A7RV, A7C, A9, A1

>>4152661
>>4152669
OK thanks guys. I found a used one for $550 but guess that's just a pure waste of money then. Perhaps I should get a Nikon Z5 or Z6 instead, they can be had for about $900 used. I just want a cheap 2nd body from either Sony or Nikon. I've only ever shot with Canon, so would be fun to try something new.

BTW, how do you know that A7iv, A7Rv etc are 100% reliable? They're quite new after all.

>>4152628
Canon R8 for top tier autofocus. Used Z5 if you wanna save some money. They released a new firmware that supposedly greatly improved the autofocus for it. Its still a much slower and older camera than the R8 though. In the end it will depend on what lenses you intend to get. Both systems have their strengths and weaknesses here.

>>4152688
Sony's reliability issues up until this point were early failures and just not having weather sealing. People typically put these cameras through extremely hard use so they're fine.

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Leicabros?

>>4152660
A7II is honestly quite old by now, with the old menus and shit, but then again I was never bothered with them, I set up my shit once, make my button shortcuts/reassignments, and maybe go back in the menu twice a year. But for some people it's like hell or something. AF is also quite slow compared to today's standards, but it was quite good back in the day so who knows. I'd still go with a used A7III instead, but if you want knew and cheap, then A7II will obviously be a lot cheaper. If anything, I like how A7I and A7II body were still small, that's a big plus as far as I'm concerned.

>>4152701
L-mount alliance!

>>4152660
>>4152736
>old menus and shit
Yeah, but coming from Canon, imagine what happens when anon tries to adjust ISO.

I just inherited a Canon EOS1200D from an elderly relative who can't use it any more. It's my first "proper" camera (only had fuji point n' shoots before smartphones happened) so I'm just getting started on learning to photo properly.
I'm particularly interested in night shooting & astrophotgraphy, planning on mounting it on my telescope's tracking robot tripod to try some super long exposure stuff next new moon (i have a remote trigger too).
Is the EOS1200D a piece of shit? How fucked am I?

>>4152784
Canons are generally worse at night photos yes

>>4152701
That will be 8000 dollars for that lens. Thank you very much, sucker.

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>>4152858
lies

>>4152784
Camera will probably be fine if you stack.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=bDqrW8cLEx8
>planning on mounting it on my telescope's tracking robot tripod to try some super long exposure stuff
I'm more worried about this. What kind of tracker is it? If it's just one intended for visual I'm not sure it's accurate enough for super long exposures. You usually use extremely sturdy ones for that, and with guiding scopes, that is another camera that is used to correct for errors in the tracking.
It also depends on what you mean by "super long".

Anyways it's probably better to take shorter ones and stack. The tracker does make this a lot easier though.

>>4153010
It's a tracking mount, the telescope is a celestron 114LCM... Very much an entry level 'babby's first telescope' model. I wasn't hoping to capture deep field messier objects or anything, I've read enough to know that sort of proper astrophotography requires stacking, using the scope as a lens etc.. That stuff's for further down the line. I was really just wanting to try & get some nice starry sky pics. By "super long" exposures I meant more than the 30 seconds the camera will do by itself, like maybe a full minute or more. Idea being to avoid star trails by using the tracking mount, using the remote trigger with a long exposure so I can keep low ISO settings to reduce noise.
I'm not against stacking by any means, the only reason I'd like to see what's possible without it is I live in a super rural, extremely dark place so light pollution isn't a concern, also I think a starry sky with lots of meteor trails zipping across it would look cool & I figured a long exposure would be the best way to "catch" meteors.
It's so dark here I see meteors every night, I don't have to wait for the named showers to happen.
BUT! I am a self confessed idiot and a camera noob so all these theories might be very wrong.

>>4152669
>>4152669
>>4152669
snoy admits most of the range is pure shit lol

>>4153028
He is wrong about A6500 and A6600. They are the best feeling APS-C cameras.

>>4153028
Canon and Nikon didn't even compete with sony until a year after the A7RIII came out. Those bodies were cheap, but they justified building up the best lens ecosystem you can get in to today.

The only other people with mature mirrorless systems at the time were fuji (the entire range is pure shit, lenses included) and whoever was selling compact point and shits.

is there not a /p/ buyers guide?

>>4153050
>The only other people with mature mirrorless systems at the time were fuji
This mf just going to pretend micro fourturds don’t exist or what? Quality lacking or not, they had bodies and lenses in greater variety than snoy you chud

>>4153069
I said compact point and shoots sis

All of my complaints about my camera being too big occur while looking at it, not actually using it.

>>4151582
This is what's prompted me to start leaving M43 and move to FF. Olympus is clearly betting the farm on wildlife with the OM-1, and the OM-5 is mega overpriced for what's essentially an M43 XT30 II. I just wanted a cheaper version of the Leica M experience, small lenses and light bodies.

I think the Christmas sale where Nikon put the Z5 out there at what, like $1000 new, really hurt non FF sales. The lens demand is showing up now as people hunt for a fast prime or telephoto to round out the kit zoom.

Panasonic has clearly landed on a winner with the S5II (and I presume updates to the S1 line soon) and their interview recently really sounded a lot like a eulogy for the m43 system.

>>4153083
>the OM-5 is mega overpriced for what's essentially an M43 XT30 II

Weather sealed. IBIS. Superior AF. Superior EVF. Superior ergonomics. I get what you're saying but you are definitely trading off some features to get that sensor. It isn't exactly apples to apples.

>>4153089
all that but full frame has the same stuff going on for the same price and at the same size (actually lighter)... but it's also technically better. fuck, so does APS-C. maybe if you suffer from autistic nikon/sony/canon hate, micro four thirds is on the table?

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>>4153093
>maybe if you suffer from autistic nikon/sony/canon hate, micro four thirds is on the table?

but I like nikon too...

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>>4150927
Rosetta 1 was retired after a few years, it’ll happen to Rosetta 2 too

Just bought
>Canon EOS R6 Mark II
>RF 24-105mm f4 L
For a combined total of 3600 USD.
That’s equivalent to the body at US MSRP and the lens at a slight discount.
Note that this is in Australia, where the local MSRP of the body is inflated to 2950 USD.

Did I do good? I felt like it was the best I could hope for in this kangaroo country given how new the body is

>>4153157
>Did I do good? I felt like it was the best I could hope for in this kangaroo country given how new the body is
Depends on what it replaced

>>4153168
It’s my first personal ILC, I have only used/borrowed SLRs from people I know before.
Needed it for a trip in a few months, so it wasn’t possible to wait for a big sale like black friday

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Looking for a wide lens for some hiking in mountains and on fields. My widest now is the 35mm 1.4. Do you recommend getting the Tamron 20mm 2.8 for Sony? Or should I save some money and just go for the Sony 20mm 1.8?

>>4153189
The Sony cost 4 times as much. It's only useful for night time.

I would go for a wide zoom instead.

>>4153014
I'm not very experienced either. But for stars scapes it will probably be no problem. I thought you wanted nebulas and such.
30 secs you can pretty much do without tracking, depending on lens and crop of course. So it will probably work even better with tracking. Good luck, mate. Post some pics in the Astro thread afterwards.

Wish I had such dark skys, I have to travel a bit which makes it quit a hassle. Planning to try som stacking like in the video sometime though.

>>4153189
If you want cheap, light, and small I'd recommend the Samyang 18mm f2.8
Otherwise the Sony 20mm G is amazing, I have it, easily GM level optical quality

>>4153189
The tamron has terrible rendering. Just save up. That Sony lens is nearly optically flawless wide open. Photography isn’t a race so why rush to buy junk? Have you even mastered the 35mm yet?

>>4153221
30 without tracking? I start getting star trails at 15.

>>4153157
That lens is extremely overpriced for what it is at MSRP but seems like you got it for ~750 then which is pretty alright
If you have the cash for more RF lenses then you can't really get a better new body in that price bracket now, at least not until nikon z6iii or snoy a7v both of which are at least a year away.

>>4153221
>Post some pics in the Astro thread afterwards.
Will do. Fug knows when I'll actually get to try it, the skies are very dark here, but they're also perpetually cloudy.

>>4153189
Yeah, why the hurry? There's literally nothing you can't do with the sony 35mm f1.4 GM except claim to own a small and light lens. Perspective distortion is very low, panoramas won't be a problem, and it's fine for astro. But if it's the samyang it's a really garbage lens even by samyang standards and the sony/zeiss 35mm f1.4 is really bad for its price (might as well use the samyang) so I could understand wanting to upgrade.

The tamron is OK for astro but isn't nearly as sharp as the sony. The edges are noticeably blurry even stopped down and the center is as sharp as the edges are on the sony 20mm f1.8.

nta but speaking of FE and wide, alongside fast for milky way, any other options than the already mentioned ones? I'd like something a bit wider than 20mm (like 16 or 18mm), ideally f1.8/2.0/2.8 top. Don't care about AF, full manual is good, and I'd say even better as far as I'm concerned, I leave such lenses to infinity anyway.
The Samyang 18mm is like the ass of a bottle, the Sony GM going wider is far too pricey, I've seen a Tokina f2.0 though it's 20mm same as the Sony 20mm (f1.8) but it's cheaper and optically okay but the Sony seems like a better deal for a few more bills. Voigtländer 15mm is f4.5, so useless for me.
Why did Samyang have to fuck up their 18mm for fucks sake, it's the lens I needed.

>>4153341
Samyang 14mm f2.8. Doesn’t Laowa have a 15mm as well? Otherwise try a Sigma.

>>4153344
Like the 20mm Contemporary f2

>>4153344
You sure bro?
https://www.lenstip.com/541.7-Lens_review-Samyang_AF_14_mm_f_2.8_EF_Coma__astigmatism_and_bokeh.html

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Does anybody know why the battery in the pic has THREE contact points when it is obviously just a single cell with the standard 3,7V? YOu need on + and one - so what the heck is the third one for?

I'm looking at upgrading my Canon 70D to a Nikon Z6.
Is autofocus performance really that bad? I feel like it can't be as bad as my 70D.

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Ordered more gear.

I'm tired of worrying about the market so fuck it, lets just burn your money before it disappears anyway.

Maybe one day I'll post photos for you /p/.

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Are Angelbird legit or a meme?
They are more expensive than comparable V90 cards from Sandisk etc, but claim slightly better write speeds and some other advantages related to resilience

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/compare/Angelbird_AV_Pro_SD_vs_SanDisk_Extreme_PRO_vs_ProGrade_Digital_Cobalt_vs_Lexar_Professional/BHitems/1527888-REG_1617741-REG_1499806-REG_1592046-REG

>>4153458
>Are Angelbird legit or a meme?
unless youre a birder or sports photog you dont need to even consider it

>>4153397
Not canon battery expert, never seen this particular back but most often if there are three terminals, they are battery +/- plus a thermistor with its other side being grounded, so camera and/or charger can be aware of battery overheating when it's charging or being drained.

>>4153397
The third contacg point is for measuring battery status and adjusting charging voltage/speed accordingly to prolong battery life and performance

Some MFT boomer wrote an article about this and 3rd party battery performance a while ago but unfortunately it's in German

More and more comparisons for the galaxy s23 ultra are coming out

It looks like all of micro four thirds and APS-C has been made redundant aside from having more bokeh, and viewing full frame images vs. the phone at IG jpeg/youtube video quality and <2mp is a waste of time, aside from the big sensor DOF they look the same. Real cameras only diverge in serious editing where the additional DR and bit depth shows, and printing. For social media and /p/ gear is absolutely Dead.

Dead. With a capital D.

A "real camera" now only exists for printable photos and absolute quality. The dedicated digital camera is now today's medium format box. I expect APS-C and MFT to die outside of small amateur video cameras before the decade is over. Full frame will now become "crop", and medium format will begin to dominate to push even further ahead of phones in quality as small sensors are maxed out in what they can do except for amateur video.

I hope ya'll are putting your gear up on ebay sooner rather than later because the prices on slightly dated cameras, like anything not as good as an A7RV, are going to plummet like digital point and shoots or old film cameras before the hipster shit.

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>>4153493
that's always been the case. it's just now coming in a format normies are comfortable being seen in public with so the great gear mogging is going to become public knowledge. It used to just be an enthusiast secret.
>pic related
gearfags are going to get fucking heemed, canceled, ratio'd, etc by clueless normies

>oh wow anon you use ALL THAT just to post on instagram? i think my samsung galaxy s23 ultra's photo is sharper!
>BUT BUT BUT ITS NOT ACTUALLY SHARPER ITS AI INPAINTING AND POST SHARPENING IF YOU ZOOM IN OR PRINT IT ANY BIGGER THAN FOUR INCHES WIDE OR CROP YOU SEE...IT LOOKS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THE REAL PHOTO IS TRUE TO LIFE AND IF YOU EDIT ALL OF A SUDDEN UHHH BANDING AND PIXELALTION BECAUSE MUH DYNAMIC...
>lol ok nerdy incel try closing that book and your mouth until you can act normal and talk about hulu or something bye dweeb

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>>4153496
>>4153493
Bros, phones can even use strobes now..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr-F9_4tvjQ

>>4153496
>galaxy s23 ultra
I know it's bait, but it's possible that most folks buying photography gear engage in the hobby for their own edification and for the small online and physical communities they participate in. Cheap as hell mass produced knick-knacks from China might've eliminated woodcarving as a viable career, but it's still a pretty prominent hobby.

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>>4153493
wow, consider me mogged, incredible detail on the crop of a person 10 feet away at like f/11 equivalent. wow.

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>>4153493
yeah but shooting with a phone is gay and a camera isn't

>>4153461
Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. If it really is a thermistor I just need to find which two contacts are + and - since the battery will be outside the camera and I dont have to worry about the temperature.

>>4153466
Got a link? I'm German so I can read it no problem. Also Google translations have gotten good lately.

>>4153255
>I start getting star trails at 15.
Depends on your lens of course. I seem to remember shooting my wide one at 30 when first trying it. There probably was some small trails if you zoomed.
I also read that newer, high megapixel sensors, will get more trails. Which should be obvious if you think about it.

>>4153341
>I leave such lenses to infinity anyway.
Just remember that infinity is usually not actually at the stop, but a bit before.

>>4153493
>the prices on slightly dated cameras, like anything not as good as an A7RV, are going to plummet like digital point and shoots or old film cameras before the hipster shit.
I fucking wish...

>>4153547
https://olye.fotografierer.com/olye/download/olyep/olyep201802.pdf
There's tons of similar tests out there but this is the most comprehensive

>>4153606
Should add that I immediately threw out my 3rd party batteries and charger after I read this

I currently have a Sony A7Rii and a Fuji X-E4.

I've used the Sony for several years and it's severed me well. I've been thinking of upgrading to a Sony A7 IV though.

I just do it as a hobby and occasionaly book studios for TFP models for things like lingerie shoots or fashion/portraits.

I can get a used one for $2600, an open box for $2800.

Pros and Cons of upgrading?
Do I really need it?

Think the bigger battery and faster menus etc with touch screen and rotating flip screen is cool.

Thanks

>>4153667
the cheaper A7RIII has most of the upgrades you want out of the A7IV but can be bought for $1100-1300 today off ebay or less than $1000 if you know how to haggle. Also, the batttery lasts longer than the A7IV.

It doesn't last as long in the rain but better than the A7RII, and getting rained on is for incels.

>>4153406
What's wrong with your 70D?

>>4153686
its a dslr. do you even have to ask?

>>4153688
>>4153686
not because it's a DSLR, but it's poor autofocus accuracy
Even when changing the autofocus microadjust, it seems hit or miss.
It's not the lenses as they work on other people's bodys, and I get the same issue with other people's lenses on my body

>>4153706
That’s how all DSLRs are. Action shooting is technically difficult and it gets in the way of making it into art instead of mere spray and pray. Hence really artistic sports and wildlife shots were holy grails and high budget jpegs. These days with mirrorless cameras you can stage a shot with releasing a previously trapped bird and get it in one take, instead of having to rent trained animals and a zoo because a shitty DSLR needs 10 takes and some luck or “marksmanship”.

>>4153711
lmfao fuck off retard.

>>4153711
it's not just action shots, even on still subjects it still misses the focus about 30% of the time
i suppose the answer is to manual focus still subjects

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Does anyone use these?

I’m tempered to purchase one, but I’m worried about the repeated jostling causes lens damage

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>>4153720
Just use a Peak Design Capture, better designed. Never had any problems with my lenses, even after days of mountain hiking.

>>4153712
Ok nophoto. Go birding. DSLR boomers are there with their expensive ass 200-600 lenses machine gunning to get it right in camera because the AF sucks and they can’t crop as much. I go out with my A7RV and a 70-209 and blow them all away on single shot mode. On shutter press one picture. I wait for the pose i want. I throw bait at some birds and sticks at others to get them flying. I don’t pray i take the shot, i make the shot. Singular shot. 100% hit rate. APSC mode magnifies the image in the EVF (OVF cucks can not even imagine) and I frame for a second crop if i need even more reach. 62mp means I don’t have to really care. Who needs a giant lens with 60mp? People who want to print a duck to fill a wall? Lol.

>>4153493
lmao this dude is just posting obvious bait in multiple threads about yet again another mushy and overbaked chinkslop phone camera gimmick

despite starting to creep in that direction (1/1.3 is still appreciably smaller), I'm willing to bet people still get nicer results from even just the decent 1" sensor cameras remaining out there, let alone m43/aps-c

>>4153724
based. i have this workflow as well, but i’m so accomplished that i can only post terrible throwaways on 4chan without doxing myself. not many other sports and nature photographers can sling a gfx100s. they just let their dslr make a constant clacking noise while the af struggles and hope it turns out. i have patience and vision so i use manual focus and let the MP be the MM. mirrorless is king for real artists.

>>4153724
DANGEROUSLY based

>>4153706
Sounds there is some fluff on either the mirror (AF bounce mirror is behind the main mirror) or on the AF sensor lens/window.
Happened to me once, drove me mad but instead I sat down thinking what could cause it and how to fix it. Get a blower and a soft brush and clean out your camera.

>>4153711
>These days with mirrorless cameras you can stage a shot with releasing a previously trapped bird and get it in one take, instead of having to rent trained animals and a zoo because a shitty DSLR needs 10 takes and some luck or “marksmanship”.
Lel you never shot wildlife AND you never had a camera in your hand, with mirror or without. Fuck off larper shit!

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>>4153724
>calls others nophoto
>posts no photos
Watching YT videos from actual photographers then pulling shit out of your ass on the internet is not photography.

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>>4153745
>>4153724
Also you want single shot? Last I recall it can be done with a DSLR.

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>>4153724
lmfao post one bird photo you fucking lying ass faggot. :)

>>4153737
Thanks, I'll give this a go.
I have a blower but no brush so I'll order one tonight and give it a go some point this week.

>>4153750
Get a Lenspen set also get a SensorKlear.
Also for slimmer brushes look up the makeup brushes section at your local mart, they are soft and good quality. Don't buy the cheapest.

>>4153155
Rosetta 1 was retired because every single developer who still worked started compiling their apps for x86

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>>4153752
Ordered both of these, we'll see how it all goes
Thank you again

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>zero (0) third party lenses with Canon
>dogshit autofocus with Nikon
what's a guy supposed to do?

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>>4153795
I bought this sony for $600 and have taken over 1500 photos of my dog since (all worth it btw she's lovely)

Would recommend/10

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>>4153818
Average Sony™chad

>>4153795
>xzibit_yo_dawg.jpg

is the magnus tr17 a good tripod to start with? got some cheap bosch shitter and just realized it only holds 5lbs

>>4153823
May be worth checking out Promaster... dumb name but good quality. I never use it, but mine wasn't too expensive, is fairly light, and holds 26lbs. It also converts into a monopod. I've had close to 15lbs on it and it was solid.

>>4153157
Post some pics later. Thinking hard about getting the 24-105 for my R6.

>>4153818
That's a nice dog.
Why did you draw a cock and balls on her nose though?

>>4153493
Medium format cameras will never be popular. Who would make one at this stage, when so much money and time is invested in the Z, L, E and RF mount already?

>>4153830
>why would anyone make mirrorless cameras now when so much money and time has been invested in DSLRs

>>4153831
different scenario. if it wasnt for sony, mirrorless wouldnt have happened. what needs to happen for medium format to become standard is for a major company with lots of money start releasing cameras with this kind of sensor and then being so much better than the competition (incl size/weight, autofocus speed, lens quality etc) that the professional market switches over.

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>>4153831
>make a family of products
>after ten years, abandon it and...
>make another family of products!

sucker circle accomplished

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Imagine needing telephotos and AF for shooting wildlife.
True chads have wildlife come at them and only need their 12mm at infinity.

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>>4153845
>knock knees
>chad
Bruh

>>4153845
Look at this guy posing like betty boop over a marmot
>Made for BMC

>>4153818
Any other reasons why you went for a Sony?
Where does it fall down?

>>4153823
Sounds like rebranded chinkshit

>>4153825
>It also converts into a monopod.
lol
lmao even

>>4152099
You mean 200-380

>>4153822
>not xribbit

>>4154192
A shameful display for sure.

>>4153749
wow, go figure, not a single photo a day later. It's almost like he was lying out of his fucking ass and is a shit-tier troll.

>>4154223
They hated him because he told them the truth
>You don't need longer lenses if you can just crop
>Good autofocus beats shooting faster
>Mirrorless has the best autofocus
>Mirrorless has the most megapixels
Why do you think micro four thirds is popular for birds dumdum? It's just permanently cropped full frame. Multiply MFT megapixels by four = it's like cropping a 100mp fulll frame camera. Beat that. You can't.

>>4154225
post photos

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noob here. have two cameras (one is old dslr with a cheap chinese lens, other is new A7iii with a decent lens). the expensive setup produces weird distortion like in the top photo (both are on automatic settings). what's wrong with the new setup?

>>4154242
Demosaicing error

Either your camera is broken or the software you're using doesn't process raws correctly

>>4154249
>>4154242
Big if ooc jpeg, how do you process?

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>>4154242
>>4154249
>>4154263
No really, please tell, what did you do to that image? Was it captured as raw and developed in some 3rd party software?

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>>4154249
>>4154263
>>4154391
the top is the sony raw format thru the stock windows raw viewer, bottom is canon's cr2

I'll see if it's a dumb PC issue, thanks guys

>>4154461
>stock windows raw viewer
Thanks, I suppose that means sony raw driver then.

>>4154461
Seems more like it's a dumb PC user issue

>every camera with a battery grip looks dumb as fuck
>order one anyway
>use it once
>it no longer looks dumb as fuck

Whats the best one lens solution that would cover most of everything?

Landscapes
Portraits
Street and Architecture

Like if you could only buy one camera and one lens, what would you use?

>>4154689
24-70 zoom

>>4154689
midrange zoom like a 24-70mm f2.8
if you're fine with wider / environmental portraits (not headshots), a solid 35mm works great too for all of those

>>4154689
23mm

is the nikon d810 my best bet for a solid entry level digital camera under 1000? or should I just get a z5

>>4154689
20-70 FE

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>>4153947
>why snoy
>$600 for too many megapixels, really good autofocus tracking, and the best lens ecosystem
>only cheap because there's a tiny scratch on the sensor that doesn't show up in photos unless you take a picture of the sky at f/16, and then it looks like a dust spot, would gladly pay $1k for it in any case
>easy to use adapt random shitty lenses
>camera has literally every feature i want
>small and light, can use telescoping pocket tripod
>battery life barely off from the pentax k1 in practice
>ergos and menus are actually an upgrade
>video is actually usable for casual stuff
>good SOOC colors, even with random shitty lenses, but i really need a better screen that can actually be calibrated
>EVF is very useful

>why not snoy
>has "wireless flash" in the menu but doesn't control flash wirelessly on its own? all they need is a tiny radio antenna right? wtf man
>snoy didn't make it 100% compatible with the HVL-F28RM
>If it gets wet it will definitely die instead of maybe die
>PSAM > PASM
>no top LCD
>it would have been ugly but they could have easily put the viewfinder on the side

>>4154689
40mm

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>>4154713
>because there's a tiny scratch on the sensor that doesn't show up in photos
Honestly it is most likely a scratch on the top cut filter in the stack. You can easily get it fixed and doesn't cost much

>>4154713
>I want a nikon: the post
Ok

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>>4154713
I paid $1500 for an A7RIV with a Sigma canon adapter and a Canon 24-70mm f/4.0 L. Great deal at the time.

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>>4154689
Any mft with the panasonic 12-60

>>4154689
Micro four thirds (that’s obvious anyways, fool framers are only happy when they steal their cameras apparently) with a superzoom like the panasonic 14-140

>>4154689
Size/cost doesn't matter? The big Tamron 35-150.

Any /film/fag here ?
I can finally buy another lens for my Olympus OM1
anyone ever used the 50mm f1.4 or the 100mm 2.8 ? any rec for one or another ?

>>4154731
That’s an amazing deal any time bro what the fuck, get it off a junkie or something? Lol

>>4155047
> Size/cost doesn't matter?
Thats up to you.

For me, I choose a full frame Canon R5 with the RF 24-105mm f4L.

>>4154713
>10mp for a picture of a chihuahua taken with some sort of $50 chink lens
So this is the power of cropping on full frame

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Should I go and buy this? Seems a pretty good deal.

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>>4150780
I want to replace my sony a6000 18-200mm with a nikon mirrorless aps-c 18-300mm VR. Looking to swap since I already have a D50, D610 and some nikon lenses.
What used nikon bodies should I look into?
Which ones are worth the money in the used market?

>>4155117
Nikon has 3 Z DX bodies, Z50, Z30, and Zfc, and they are not very different from one another or a6000 for that reason, unless you want 4K or flippy screen.

>>4155129
And yea best deal is probably the og Z6

>>4155131
>>4155129
Thanks. Going to look into them.

It is time to replace my dying laptop

Criteria:
Big beautiful accurate screen
Real SD card reader
Not a mac (my last 3 laptops were macs and all have failed for some reason or another + i am done with this linux tier dinosaur OS)

The dell XPS 15 9500 looks breddy gud

>>4155109
>Leica SL
>Beautiful

>>4155164
Why not get a proper pc?
Not even trolling, I genuinely don't understand why people buy laptops for anything other than travel.

>>4155172
Same computer everywhere you go, it's like a continuous LAN party. It's useful if you "travel" to work or school every day, too.

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>>4155051
>get it off a junkie or something
Yeah, the guy seemed clean and all. But all of his mannerisms gave me nothing but newly addicted brainrot. I knew he was a tweaker when he was weirdly reluctant to meet me at the bank 2 blocks from the meet point he suggested.

It's such a good camera too. Love Sony's colors.
Image taken by the exact setup I bought. Camera was in auto cause I was driving.

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>>4155188
Is that a Pur Sang?

>>4155192
there are replicas of old bugatti, the best ones probably made in argentina.

Can I get a quick rundown on pocket ZINK printers? I need one to scam tourists.

can someone point me in the right direction for my first digital camera?
>only ever shot film
>gf has a d3400 which is fun to use with an adapter for my old lenses but it only has one control wheel which is pretty gay
>literally useless above 1600 ISO
what are my options under 1000 if I just want good autofocus, image stabilization, and a decent lens ecosystem? or should I just cop a D810

>>4155197
I know what a Pur Sang is, I was asking if that one in the picture was a Pur Sang.
Also they're made in Argentina, not "probably made in Argentina". If it's a Pur Sang it's made in Argentina, end of the story. If it's made anywhere else it's something else.

>>4155172
>other than travel
For work
T. Elecom

how come nikon can't fit an ibis system in the zfc/z50? the z-mount is fuckhueg

>>4155324
Cost and segmentation.

>>4155319
Dunno if you have a sensor size preference, but in m43 you have countless options fitting this budget (even new, let alone used) that will be feature rich in various form factors--the GX85 I was using before Fuji is still decent enough for its size, and super cheap, while even the latest "flagship" stills model from Panasonic (the G9) is also within budget now. Olympus stuff tends to retain a bit more value on the used market, but they have a lot of options too, I'm just not as familiar. For APS-C, the Fuji X-S10 is just under 1k new and is probably the best value in APS-C at that price, but if you wait a couple months, lightly used models will be several hundreds of dollars cheaper than currently since the X-S20 is very likely being announced soon and non-LARP Fuji models lose their value real fast (the X-H1 is also incredibly well priced currently used if you want something larger). For FF, most would probably still suggest old DSLR models, but the Canon RP (no IBIS though, classic Canon cripple), Nikon Z5, and ancient Sony models (like the a7ii or a7rii) can be had used below 1k. The Panasonic S5 is rapidly approaching being within budget too and is probably better than all of those unless you really need Sony-tier AF.

All of them except Canon have a pretty good lens selection, though M43, Sony, and Fuji are probably the best, in descending order. Canon is explicitly anti-consumer and forbids AF third party lenses, and has focused on filling out expensive large RF L-glass equivalents first in their FF mirrorless system.

>>4155172
>onions surprised other people do other things than live in their pod

>>4155319
1000 with or without lenses?
a7rii used is hands down your best option, with some extra benjamins to spend on lenses.

>>4155343
I have 2 desktops, 3 laptops, a tablet and a phone. Which "pod" am I in exactly?
Laptops are great if you travel a lot, but I've never understood why you'd want one as your only computer. Less performance, less reliability, less practicality for twice the price. Being portable is the only thing they have in their favour. I was just curious why folk like them, not trying to start a flame war, but if that's what you want, then let's go at it, seething poorfag.
Or are you one of those hipster faggots who spends all day in starbucks hoping someone notices how much he paid for this week's latest macbook?

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Can anyone recommend a cheap Z mount telephoto lens for wildlife photography? Maybe in the $1-2k range

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>>4155353
I don't play video games, ever. Video games are for children. It makes keeping data synchronized a non issue. I don't have shit taking up space on the workbench.

>>4155383
>>4155353
>>4155343
>>4155172
autism

>>4155374
>cheap
>$1-2k range
Pick one.

>>4155374
200-600

>>4155395
Cheap telephoto isn't equal to cheap lens

>>4155352
with lenses, preferably, but it's not a deal breaker. the a7r II seems like a good deal, what's up with the whole snoy colors meme and muh shutter?
>>4155333
think I'm leaning towards FF. the z5 is on my radar, seems like people absolutely love that thing. thanks for the suggestions anon, if all else fails I'll just cop a 5d mk2 lol

>>4155531
>Snoy colors meme
One guy with a poorly calibrated screen botching his white balance
>Muh shutter
The A7III had a batch of defective shutters, reminiscent of the nikon D750 drama. Sony didn't do a recall and is getting sued over it. They'll probably win just like when pentax got sued over defective aperture controllers.

>>4155397
It doesn't exist

>>4155353
Oh no no no it's definitely not ideal to have a laptop as only or "main" computer, but it really covers all the use cases where you have to go outside. Protip, with a laptop and internet connection you can vpn back into your home.

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>>4155533

is $900 a good deal for this kinda beat a7 iii with the 28-70 kit lens?

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>>4155623
If you just spend a couple days on ebay, you can do a lot better condition-wise.

ebay com/itm/394516839276
This might be a scam but ebay buyer protection is so good.

>>4155631
>>4155623
Both of these are probably scams. It's called the same zipcode scam. They use images from a listing from ages ago or from another site that are long since gone, and when you buy it, they mail an empty box to someone in your zipcode with off ebay tracking. Then they get their payout, close their ebay account, unlink everything, withdraw the cash, and fuck off. Usually using stolen paypal accounts for an added layer of safety, but most of the time they're just a third worlder.

A lot of the time people get fucked into having to get a police report just to get their refund and ebay can't take it from the seller

>>4155631
lol no dont do it
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Buying/Got-scammed-as-buyer-Seller-perpetrated-a-quot-same-zip-code/td-p/31705852

its a scam designed to take advantage of counter-scamming policies

>>4155638

the shitty one i linked would be an in-person deal. just didn't know if i should be scared off by price/condition

>>4155597
It's plenty ideal unless you're into video editing and god forbid, manchildish activities (gaming).

>>4155679
No desktop GPU during the current wave of AI taking over illustration and visual art as a whole is a bit foolish for a gearfag, don't you think

>>4155681
Have you seen what AI puts out? It looks like ken rockwell attempting photo manipulation. AI is an autocomplete algorithm. The revolution will never come until it walks around holding a camera.

Plus I'm not even a real gearfag, I just like belittling people.

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>>4155684
>Jarvis, go to kenrockwell.com. Collect data. Build an abstracted average of the aesthetics of every image file. Now generate a seascape.
AI winning prizes just shows that peoples taste is degrading

>>4155326
sony's aps-c cameras have ibis, and they have roughly the same cost segmentations as well

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I have £1000 to spend on a used mirror less body. I could stretch to £1500 but there has to be a good reason as I'll need lenses.
My main requirement is AF that will work for motorsport photography. IBIS is also a big bonus.

>>4155761
Start from the lens(es) you want to use and go backwards, at 1k, some careful shopping can you get into a decent used body from anyone.

>>4155757
I mean, just Sony's highest end APS-C has IBIS, like the a6600. Not the a6100 or 6400 lower/mid tier models.

>>4155679
The vpn solves the video editing problem
Just have your beast accesible to the lan and offload all the gpu heavy processing to it.
You could use the lowest tier laptop to do everything this way.
Or even simpler, just use whatever remote desktop program you prefer

>>4155761
>AF that will work for motorsport photography
Jej
Zone focus and git gud at tracking and timing

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where do i find reviews of pic related?

>>4151587
A 102mm or 127mm Maksutov-cassegrain

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1141690-REG/sky_watcher_s11510_102mm_maksutov_cassegrain_ota.html

or

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1141693-REG/sky_watcher_s11520_127mm_maksutov_cassegrain_ota.html

>>4155776
>shill the AF capabilities of on-sensor PDAF and AI-assisted modes like animal eye AF as a proxy to shill mirrorless
>most of the lenses coming out for mirrorless are manual focus
so this is the power of bleeding edge technology
mirrorlesscuckbros... we lost, reflexchads win again

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>>4150780
Is there a lens filter that will roll off light starting around 3000k to create a more blueish white balance in a digital camera?
From what I have read there isn't because the camera's white balance will adjust the picture as if the filter wasn't there.
Then I saw this filter picrel which does seem to work in changing the light balance. It seems to work better in adding warm light effect than cutting it. It can cool light somewhat though.
https://www.stcoptics.com/products/icelava-warm-to-cold-fader-filter
So what is the deal? Are there filters that can force the white balance in a digital camera to be cooler or not? Obviously this icelava filter has that effect. Are there non variable filters that can do it as well?

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>>4155838
Poopco tier shitpost

>>4155840
Turn off AWB?

>>4151994
That's not a pipe

>>4155838
There's a resurgence in MF lenses because a mirrorless camera fresh out of the box can do things like focus magnification, digital split prisms, and digital rangefinder patches - enabling "snap" shooting where the shutter is pressed as soon as stuff lines up - that digital reflex cameras could not. With DSLRs, the built in focusing screen/OVF arrangement is lower precision than its manual focus film SLR predecessors to maximize brightness with f4-5.6 kit lenses and the like, and doesn't perfectly confirm focus, so before you get serious with MF on a DSLR you have to have a new focusing screen fitted and calibrated perfectly, or god forbid try and hack with with a loupe eyepiece with your ground glass+fresnel thickness stock focusing screen, or just accept that focusing will be a little imprecise and require a bit of manual focus hunting.

The next big thing in mirrorless cameras is moving the viewfinder away from the center in all of them, a shitty nose-smashing design choice that was created by a technological limitation, and putting it on the side. Mirrorless cameras can even have swappable EVFs enabling stuff like greater eye relief and with better live view/E-shutter/EFCS performance than any DSLR be used with any external screen in place of one.

>>4155879
SLRs were a mistake
>having to use giant fast lenses just to be able to see shit
>stop down to see the real DOF
>can't see shit at all
i remember with film i would shine a flashlight around for focusing sometimes. it was stupid but of course the cinefag+canon split personality schiz would call that "making, not taking".

>>4155879
I want a monocular style body desu, aside from the lens to sensor path, there’s nothing that dictates a camera has to have the same or similar shape as old slrs. My ip range is banned from uploading images, but just imagine something like the canon PowerShot zoom. Neato.

I was waiting for a lens to come back in stock (24-120 f4 s), and when I noticed it was back in stock I went in to check it out and they only had one left, so now I'm paranoid that it is a return or something. It is a popular lens that is often sold out though so I guess I'm just going to test it a lot. What kind of tests should I run when I pick it up?

all these F4s popping up feels like companies saying "fuck you, you'll take what we give you"

>>4155943
>What kind of tests should I run
You should take it out and do your photography of choice and see if they are pleasing to you or not. Post the cool pics you made here and enjoy your lens.

>>4155943
if it's expensive you should shoot some stars on a clear night. any decentering issues (the only possible hidden damage or QC flaw) will be apparent when you can never get one edge or corner in focus. if you can not get 100% of the sky in focus stopped down a little to kill coma/astigmatism, return it, you'll have issues with getting landscapes in focus. if the entire sky can be in focus, the lens is fine.

>>4155948
it feels like companies saying "thanks for sticking with us, have a lighter, smaller lens". f2.8s were never necessary for actual picture taking. the depth of field is hilariously thin, and edge sharpness is never that great even on the best. f2.8 zooms were for making SLRs OVFs more usable in low light, even though the actual photos in low light would be taken at f4 or something.

now that we have mirrorless we can just have the lenses start at f4 and be significantly easier to handle, especially since optics have gotten so good that f4 zooms wide open often perform as well as equivalent quality f2.8 zooms stopped down.

>>4155953
>the depth of field is hilariously thin
And yet F1.8s and bigger are popular.
It feels like downgrading the camera down to apsc, when you could just get a cheaper apsc body and F2.8 lens (smaller because of shorter equivalent focal lengths) if you wanted smaller and lighter. If you already have FF I guess it's a nice compromise for when you want to travel light and you can still switch to faster lenses.

>>4155776
on youtube most likely

>>4155762
There aren't any lenses in particular I want, I have a a small handful of EF mount lenses, but it's just a 50mm f/1.8 and a tamron 70-200 f/4-5.6

APSC sisters, new lens from Sigma
>23mm F1.4 DC DN | Contemporary (APS-C)
Lens construction: 13 elements in 10 groups
Shortest shooting distance: 25cm
Maximum magnification: 1:7.3
Filter diameter: 52mm
Size: φ65.8 x 76.9mm
Weight: 340g
Mount: L mount, Sony E mount, Fujifilm X mount

>>4156117
Looks like it will fit between 16mm and 30mm contemporaries, same size as the 30.
RIP M-mount and MFT support, Sigma running from the sinking ships.

>>4156119
Eh, I mean, EF-M mount

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>Sugma 90MM F2.8 DG DN | C
Is it good? The distortion is kind of high according to reviews but it seems like they made it work with in-camera distortio ncorrections

It's nice that someone made a normal sized portrait lens besides zeiss and their fuckexpensive MF lens. It doesn't have that many elements either. Could it have the legendary 3d pop?

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so I have pic related NiSi square filter system w/ CPL and whatnot, but with the new macro lens I purchased I now need a 62-82mm step up ring

will I be ok buying some amazonshit for that, or is it worth investing the extra money and delivery time for the official NiSi step-up ring

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>>4156141
for what, smoother threads? i've never used "official" small gear. nodal slide plates, clamps, QR plates, pano bases, filters, tripods, nada, all chinkshit. only ball heads are worth going expensive for because ball heads are inherently kind of bad and need some amount of quality to last more than a month.

>>4156141
I always thought cheap step-up rings couldn't do much harm until the Godox one for their macro flash fucked up two of my filters with its threading

>>4156142
I always buy expensive

>>4153845
>sitting like a girl trying to stop guys from seeing up her skirt
lmao, that beaver rat thing probably thought he could fuck you.
But cool situation non the less.

>>4154689
>best one lens solution that would cover most of everything?
Ken has already done this. It's the 28-300
>This 28-300mm VR replaces the entire bag of lenses or zooms used to carry. No longer do I carry any other lens in this focal length range. This 28-300 really does replace every other wide, normal, tele, macro and zoom.
https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/28-300mm.htm

>>4156366
The very first photo on that page turned me off from buying nikon products forever

>>4154731
Did you lick her armpits after the shot?