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Q-T30 edition

Old >>4140850
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you can pinpoint the exact moment fuji finally realized men under 40 had a place in their target demographics
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>>4148690
true
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>>4148690
Still too small for man hands, but i appreciate them keeping the base camera as pocketable as my A7IV. It fits snugly in a coat pocket with the 27mm.

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>>4148695
Fuji's lack of decent grips was one of the reasons I left x mount. Even with the grip accessory I still felt like it needed an extra inch of depth.
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>>4148717
They don't really stand out among their peers in the grip department. Better than sony, really. And then there's canon.
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>>4148722
I now have a dslr
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>>4148722
also what website is this?
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>>4148727
pxlmag
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>>4148740
very cool, thanks.
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fact: smallhands chad's are the most powerful race in the world

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>>4148717
post hand. make sure to include wrist.
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>>4148784
dope>>4148784

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>>4148799
>buy new camera
>wow this is so much better than my fuji, this is going to be my new standard from now on of a comfortable grip
>noooooooo you can't just try things and make a judgement from your personal experiences you need to meet certain physical criteria before you can make you those claims, justify yourself to me RIGHT NOW

The absolute state of fooji shooters picrel
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>>4148803
dude I didn't say anything like what you greentexted. I just asked you to post your hand and you're saying I'm obsessed about charts and making you justify yourself "before you make those claims"? you've already said your bit, now I'm just asking for context. I posted nothing about charts. chillax and share your meat mitts already.
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>>4148799
Why so defensive? Is it so you can say "your hands aren't BIG ENOUGH go get a fucking fuji chud! only lebron james can want a grip, pussy!"? Knowing this shit website nothing is ever enough. Like you could post a driver license saying you're 7ft and /o/ would say "shut the fuck up and buy a miata cuck you need to be at least 8ft to not want one".

DSLRs are cheaper and better performing than anything fuji makes (for non-video tasks) anyways
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thinking about buying a newer fujifilm camera to scan film with. I'm currently using an old s5 pro with the super ccd sensor. I'm happy with the colors but there is hardly any detail.

What is a cheaper model to look for that will perform for film scanning?

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>>4148820
foveon is strictly the best for film scanning, since it approximates the structure of film. sigma SA mount is mechanically pentax K so you could use aperture ring enabled lenses like the 100mm macro

xtrans is for fashion photography and bayer is general purpose. both of them will scan film worse than a flatbed.
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>>4148822
>SA mount is mechanically pentax K
Wait what? I can use K-mount lenses on my Sigma? Are you saying that as long as the lens has a manual aperture ring I can use any k-mount lens?
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>>4148825
you have to modify them to remove the aperture feeler
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>>4148825
Why bother when pentax lenses are almost universally inferior to the rest of the industry? Sigma lenses are actually better.

Are you sure this is cheaper than a dedicated scanner?
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>>4148827
How difficult is it to do and how janky are the lenses afterwards?
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>>4148828
I'm not looking for a scanner, I just happen to have a Sigma camera and I didn't know about this. But your right, Sigma lenses are usually regarded as better and to be honest Sigma SA lenses are (relatively) very cheap used so there isn't a point to modifying Pentax lenses unless there is something interesting or quirky about a specific lens.
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>>4148818
>Why so defensive?
dude you're the one sperging out because I replied to your post. the protection is off the charts kekw
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>>4148820
ignore >>4148822 he's wrong and probably a troll
just get a good lens and a good backlight. it's not particularly demanding on any modern camera, and any fuji camera in the past few generations will do just fine.
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>>4148852
no he's right

anything that requires demosaicing effectively has 1/3 the megapixels, and as you try and raise the pixel density (lol 40mp ASPC) you stop resolving any more detail and start running into worse colors and noise, while foveon is still capturing 100% color info per photosite. bayer is the standard sensor and xtrans is just a modification meant to prevent moire from cross-hatched fine details while demosaicing. the only way either of them can progress and resolve noticeably better details past 26mp aps-c/60mp FF is larger and larger sensor. only foveon truly offers more detail for the same system size and more film-like images (up to ISO 400, kind of like film desu). once sigma solves photosite cross-talk and autofocus it's unironically over for CFAs.
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>>4148857
99.99% of photographers are shooting bayer or xtrans without issue and you're over here sperging about 1/10 of a percent of difference in sensor tech. if I showed you the same scene taken with both cameras you wouldn't even be able to tell them apart. hopefully anon is smart enough to realize that you're that guy who has to flex his knowledge and claim that the only option is to get a camera that almost nobody uses or has even heard of.
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>>4148858
He already has that camera, you fool!

99% of photographers shoot based on warranty service, lens selection, ergonomics, autofocus, quality and shutter speeds in low/available light, desired features, and fashion/social concerns, not image quality, because since the digital revolution image quality tanked but at least you could afford to shoot more and the shutter to print pipeline was shorter and more reliable. Everything since then has been "at least better than what i had last year".

If we were all going for max quality, we would be shooting film. Therefore, if you are digitizing film, you should do so in a way that preserves the most of its quality. Fuji does not offer a camera that can shit out as much detail as the latest foveon sensors or even slightly older ones, and fool framers struggle to keep up. If you digitize your film on a CFA with a "good" lens, you are compounding any optical quality losses you already suffered and adding quality losses from bayer/xtrans, making all your endeavors up to that point totally pointless for use beyond social media, so you might as well have just used the fuji and only the fuji with a convincing film recipe.
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>>4148859
>He already has that camera
the S5 Pro has a Super CCD sensor, not a foveon sensor. what are you talking about? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_CCD

>photographers don't buy cameras for image quality
and yet the image quality on all modern cameras is absolutely incredible. weird how that works, isn't it?
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>>4148857
>and as you try and raise the pixel density (lol 40mp ASPC) you stop resolving any more detail and start running into worse colors and noise
ummm no? It will always have the same resolution as a foveon with 1/3 the pixel count, with better colors and noise performance
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>>4148862
>buys a sigma
>but it's not foveon
Bros...
>Absolutely incredible
Highlight response is still pretty shit despite full frame dynamic range slowly beginning to catch up to negative film's 20-24 stops (5 more stops digislugs), and $10,000+ medium format digital still barely touches 6x9 and 4x5. Scanning good film with photography equipment, especially something meant for supreme convenience and aesthetics at a glance like fuji, is wasting film. The less that waste the better.

Fuji's digital selection is not meant to scan film, it is meant to replace film for people who would shoot mere 35mm leaning heavily towards the faster speeds. The unique CFA eliminates almost all moire, a digital only problem, and then the in-camera editing does the job a snoyboy would do manually, pushing shadows and fixing colors, and you cope with the lessened dynamic range with a diffusion filter or a lens with "character".

>>4148863
>better colors
Weaker CFAs, nope
>better noise performance
Yes
>same resolution
No, the lenses can't actually resolve 40mp on APS-C. It's trying to get an edge in less noticeable demosaicing but it's still demosaiced and the colors suffer significantly to keep SNR good with the smaller photosites. Customers will not ditch all these lenses and move to a bigger sensor for more quality. They will buy more and more megapixels to absolutely no benefit but placebo. Business.

You can go see for yourself. Sometimes, the X-T5 will even look a little less detailed than the X-T4, and colors worsen more noticeable as the ISO goes up. I notice colors stay more vibrant with fewer odd shifts at high ISOs on 26mp fuji.
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>>4148864
>colors worsen more noticeably
tldr

X-T3 chads win. no ibis crutch affecting reliability, stellar build quality, as many megapixels as you will ever need, great colors, don't buy any fancier camera, but it's a replacement for typical consumer 35mm film not a solution for digitizing it
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>>4148800
>>4148820
>>4148784
Is this the power of Fuji?
They look so fuzzy, should I just get a Leica?
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>>4148864
>the lenses can't actually resolve 40mp on APS-C
phew this expert knows better than the entire optics division at fujifilm
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>>4148864
S5 Pro is the latest good Fuji system camera, not a Sigma
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>>4148955
>S5 Pro
I tried to buy one of these last week, but every single one on ebay is listed as for parts. Why are they all broken?
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>>4148956
Well, they're old and pretty much irreplaceable
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I'm considering selling my xf16mmf1.4 to buy the tamron 11-20 f2.8 when it comes out. What counterarguments to this do you propose?
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>>4148981
None. If you think it's worth it to sacrifice the faster lens for the flexibility of a zoom then go for it. Just make sure to read/watch some reviews. I had a Tamron 17-70 f/2.8 and it was great despite how much people shit on Tamron.
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I just preordered the Samyang 75mm and was wondering if anyone knows when its going to drop?
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>>4148864
>No, the lenses can't actually resolve 40mp on APS-C
Then they can't resolve your 13MP foveon either For each color channel, the pixels on a bayer and an equivalent foveon sensor are exactly the same distance, therefore with the same lens they will produce the same image (disregarding different color responses)

And the colors are still better than foveon, don't change the topic
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The foveon vs. bayer/x-trans topic is sort of moot to me so long as only just a few cameras even exist with foveon sensors, and they're both becoming sort of dated and don't offer all the features many of us want, even where unrelated to sensor tech.

If they can produce more relevant foveon bodies at a competitive price, then the choice becomes more interesting.
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>>4149043
>becoming sort of dated and don't offer all the features many of us want
That means you are becoming a shittier photographer, not the camera being obsolete
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>>4149044
Well, it means if people have a limited budget and are choosing from all the options on the market, it places those handful of foveon cameras at a relative disadvantage for being chosen by those prospective purchasers who want the most bang for their buck, even if the sensors may offer unique characteristics.
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>>4148950
go ahead
>>4148981
what are your intended uses/applications?

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>>4149048
dogge so cute <3
>>4148950
ofc I'd buy an m11 if it wasn't so expensive
>>4148954
yes the concentration of unique geniuses on this board is truly incredible, isn't it? the untapped talent pool is just crazy. think of how much the camera industry at large would benefit if it only knew to tap into it.

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>>4148950
It's not fuzzy because of fuji. it's fuzzy because of a chink lens and missed focus. low quality photos are supposed to look like film i guess?
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>>4148722
how the fuck did fuji manage to make APS-C camera much bigger and heavier yet inferior to fucking fullframe SNOY?
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>>4149252
because its not a size optimised model? it's a "pro body" with big grip etc.
get an xe4 if you want tiny
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>>4149257
The XE4 is the same size as the A7C

>>4149252
Because fuji isn't trying to be super small, or else the selection of large lenses for X mount would be even less usable.
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>>4149048
>intended uses/applications

travel/landscape and astro photography mostly. I also don't have a 23mm lens so I figure the 20mm end will get me close enough for environmental portraits and the like for street photogrpahy
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My own film simulation, would like to hear some comments on it. You guys think its any good? Posting some more
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>>4149220
kys
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fuji 18mm. pretty meh beyond 1 meter i think

>>4149266
without knowing anything about the tamron, this seems fine to me. one zoom instead of a bunch of lenses sounds convenient for travel and hikes

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>>4149446
forgot to specify it's 18mm f2

>>4149284
i am not into the grain

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>>4149447

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>>4149446
>pretty meh beyond 1 meter i think
I've seen some very sharp shots from the 18mm f/2. I don't think that's the case. the photo in this post has motion blur, too.
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>>4148820
perhaps get a used Nikon dslr since you may already have F mount AF lenses you use with your S5?
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Update: Fuji fixed my grey market out of warranty xpro3 screen at no charge. Hell yeah.

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>>4149659
aww yiss.
which country fujifilm?
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>>4149659
ayy nice.

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How do you guys sort and view your pics taken with fuji X if you have a Mac? The only way for me to see the raws are through 3rd party software, I just wanna select the best ones of my 1000 pics of a trip and save those but I can't view them for fuck knows what reason. Fuji software is shit too with how slow it is
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>>4150198
digikam
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I recently got an X-T5. Is the new 23mm f1.4 WR worth it over the 23mm f2? Main use case would be general walk around and travel

The f2 is smaller, lighter (by almost 50%) and cheaper. I'm wondering what kind of image quality the new 1.4 has in comparison besides the extra stop. Any anons have both?
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>>4150210
christopher frost has reviews of both, give them a watch
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>>4149494
idk, maybe it's just that i am a scrub.

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>>4150210
all the new wr lenses (18mm, 23mm, 33mm, 56mm) are virtually completely optically perfect, right from f/1.4 and right into the corners. fuji reckons they're ideal for the 40megapickle sensor
thing is, if you're chasing ultra sharp clinically perfect mtf lenses, why the hell are you shooting fujifilm, sony is that way --->
i bought the 18mm as an "upgrade" to the 16mm but, if i'm honest, the character in the 16mm makes for much more appealing images. kinda stuck trying to decide what to do with both lenses.
and its not like the normal lenses are suddenly shit, e.g. the fucking pancake 27mm is ludicrously sharp enough on the 40megapickle sensor anyway.
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>>4150198
I just view my RAW's through my RAW processor. I do my culling there too, so I don't really have a need to see what the jpg thumbnail is in finder/explorer.
>>4150210
I'd say noticeably better wide open, but not too different when stopped down. I know I use my 23 f2 a lot more often due to the size.
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>>4150210
If you want one excellent prime to walk around with all day and it turns out 23 mm is your focal length, then get the f/1.4
If you like to change from time to time and bring along other options like the 50 mm f/2, then I'd take the f/2

>>4150219
I got the 18 mm f/1.4 and was more than happy with it (until it stopped working and had to send it in for repair) but I can see where you're coming from
Sony doesn't have clinically perfect lenses for APS-C though

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>>4150219
>ludicrously sharp
>posts mildly soft result
Babbies first high resolution camera. The "optically perfect" lenses are merely average. Were fuji lenses behind for so long that pretty normal results are considered amazing? Just came from budget canikony AKA any other brands APS-C?

You have no idea how much sharper the results can be while pixel peeping. With sony GM shit on a 60mp A7R you can see the texture on individual shafts of hair, clearly see the texture of the iris, and peep inside individual pores. It's almost pointlessly and unflatteringly sharp unless you want someones face to fill a wall for some reason. The camera industry is far beyond the point of diminishing returns and still pushing for more sharpness.
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>>4150265
yeah really we could have probably stopped a while ago. no one is blowing pictures up this big and staring at details this small. there's no way it's relevant to normal people, not just birders who crop out 70% of the image. why do i need to see hair shaft texture in a face portrait? to make a 12x12 square print of an eyeball? seems pretty niche, you could just rent a camera for that and never do it again

>x-t5 shot using one of those "perfect" optical formulas
>an even smaller crop than that chick's eye
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>>4150265
sigh i included the browser for context, but you couldn't help yourself and sperged out
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>>4150271
Bro you need to get some context, context other than 7artisans and cosina lenses.

It's not optically perfect or ludicrously sharp, it's just ok. And frankly $1000 is too much for it.
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>>4150273
are you retarded
go read the caption you tool
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>>4150265
>>4150273
you got all that from a holiday snapshit on a pancake lens? phew
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I see tons of people recommend this brand of camera. I am a completely newbie at cameras but I want to pick photography as hobby but at the same time I would like to be able to film 30-1h long videos (talking about board games, filming openings etc). Could someone recommend me a model for something like that? I would do nature photography but mostly filming things on a table
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Anyone have XT-4? I have gone through tons of camera videos/recommendations and it always comes up
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>>4150310
It’s a great little camera. I use two of them professionally.
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>>4150307
have you tried google babe xx
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Brought my X-T100 with me on holiday together with the XF23mm f2. I'm really liking it so far, especially with the option to send everything to my phone.
35mm is also perfect, I've never shot it before due to having the 27mm and 18mm but 35mm fov is just the perfect middle ground.

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>>4150307
Canon M50 or some Snoy would be better for that purpose in my opinion.
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>>4150307
any fujis that dont overheat filming for long periods are either expensive or worse (no IBIS lol)

go with canon
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>>4150265
>>4150268
it's wild that people will pixel peep and obsess over sharpness and then neglect basic things that they're not even aware of, like output sharpening when resizing images to share online
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I have been eyeing on a slightly used XT-3. I tested my friends and I liked it
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>>4150339
Whats a long period for fuji? Is 15-30 minutes ok? I usually film shorter bits but sometimes max 30 minutes and I was hoping to hop back to fuji's because I used to like them
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>>4150379
30 minutes

Don't worry, sony has the same problem (sony quality = fuji quality), so people have gotten used to the workarounds
>use an external recorder
>use a dummy battery that connects to an external power supply (goodbye weather sealing, not like it worked in the first place), or an official battery grip and external power
>tilt the screen out a little
fuji is unofficially sony's APS-C division since they make each other's CFAs and sensors. the xh2 has...a cooling fan accessory. its ok.

if you don't want to worry go with canon or even nikon. the bodies are larger but it's for a reason. ffs some sony bodies overheating just taking stills in the summer.
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Is it wrong to buy Fujifilm camera just because of the looks? The specs are fine for me but what made me choose Fuji originally was the look of the camera
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>>4150307
>>4150339
>>4150379
A friend of mine uses an X-S10 to record tabletop content, overheating isn't an issue when you record externally (using a capture card plugged on a computer with software like OBS for example)

>>4150310
It's one of their best camera for both photo and video right now plus you can get it for cheaper on the secondary market since the X-T5 released
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>>4150414
I just don't understand choosing a technical tool based off how it looks. If a Fuji ticks the appropriate spec requirements for you and the aesthetic is what ultimately wins you over that's fine I guess...but make sure your getting what you want out of the camera you choose first and foremost.

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>>4148820
What generates this effect in photography? The photo has this "old movie" feeling when looking at it and I see plenty of people kinda have similar look in every day photos that they take. Is it some camera setting or? I really like it
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>>4150441
Desaturated, warm, with possibly sharpness and clarity dialed back wherever it was processed. Popular for people to use diffusion filters to cause halation around light source and otherwise make highlight rolloff more "filmic" in nature, while slightly softening the image.
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>>4150198
I'm not on Mac anymore, but I use Lightroom for everything, and it's obviously on Mac too. If you need an even faster organizer, though, Photo Mechanic is great, I used the hell out of it back in the day when I was shooting motorsports professionally and had to deal with thousands of photos a day on a MacBook Pro in a hotel room.
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>>4150268
He's a practical, non-scientific, comparison, 100% crops of similar framing. Top is 50r + 80 f1.7, bot is x-t5 + 56 f1.2 (old version), C1 raw defaults, no color correction.
I do find some lenses (18 f1.4, 80 Macro) definitely close the gap.
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Any recommendations for affordable off-camera speedlights for Fuji? I used to do a lot of remote speedlight work when I was on Nikon and really miss having that capability, but I can't afford a pair of $500 Fuji flashes right now. They don't need to be wireless TTL but the ability to do manual control from the camera would be nice.
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>>4150519
It’s pretty far off and i’d care if i printed A0 at 300dpi to look at from 1 foot away

But i don’t lole
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>>4150526
As always, Just Go Godox
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Finally got my x100v. Quick tests to check out the
quality and sharpness. I'm really happy so far, it's very sharp, well centered. Camera feels really nicely crafted but feels more like a jewelry rather than something that you can drag in the mud. If I was to go hiking i'd definitely put it in a leather case of some sort.
1/3
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>>4150647
2/3
full res for anyone who want to peep it but i had to massively compress it.
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>>4150648
3/3
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>>4150414
if it meets your needs, i see no issue. that's what i did and i'm having a great time

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>>4150414
Who cares what people think, do your own thing.
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>>4150725
>>4150726
enjoy your sensor burn-in
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>>4150414
If this makes you want to get out and shoot pictures, Yes
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>>4148784
faggot
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>>4151142
maybe he used ND1000
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>>4150441
This photo is shot on actual film, and the softness is because the developed film was scanned with an old digital camera which has a ccd sensor
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I have an X-T2 but just one lens. My wife has a lot of Nikon F lenses. I'm thinking about using an adapter. Should I go with the K&F Pro or Viltrox?
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>>4151222
there are a lot of overpriced adapters out there. I got the Fotasy one. $13. it's literally just a tube that keeps light out with a mount on either side, there's no need to spend a ton on it in my opinion. I also think the ones with huge silver rings are ugly.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007YPED8O
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>>4150647
>>4150648
>>4150649
Nice! Have fun!
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>>4151417
not sure about all that dead space, but otherwise lovely shot
Maybe you can produce more depth on less space, which would allow you to make do without the top and the bottom

t. has a lot of these vertical shots and isn't always happy with them

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owned for not using a hood

>>4151692
good point. i wonder how a landscape orientation shot of both the windmills and the river would look

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>>4151727
i got a watermelon slice flare on the 35/1.4

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>>4151727
easy

t. photoshop pro

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>>4151228
Wrong, for Nikon G lenses without an aperture ring the adapter needs one

>>4151222
If you want to use ix lenses (from their aps film cameras) the viltrox, otherwise whatever is cheapest (but has an aperture ring)
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>>4151729
lamo
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>>4151729
SOVL
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>>4151228
I've bought adapters cause lenses to focus last infinity. That's annoying as fuck
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>>4151743
nice
>>4151756
>>4151755
once i moved the camera to a slightly different position, i was not able to reproduce this flare even while standing in the same spot for a few minutes.

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>>4151692
i initially tried a tighter crop but somehow i dont think it works as well
seems to lose some of the drama

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>>4151727
i did shoot it in landscape aswell.
but there is buildings off to the left so it has to be cropped in quite tight anyway.

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>>4151792
>meaningless communist art to water down white culture
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>>4151833
hmm that looks decent but i think i do prefer the vertical one with a ton of foreground. btw i saw some of your pics in the rpt. i dig the bw one with the sun filtering through the clouds of dust heavy. fav pic in that thread i think

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i've had this xe4 just under 4 months wat do

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>>4152026
Thanks man. It's actually smoke not dust. The gamekeepers burn the heather at this time of year to make better habitat for the grouse.
Those fires are all over. Creates an interesting atmosphere, and a nice smell.
Quite challenging shooting directly into the sun but I got lucky with the clouds. Difficult to expose though.

Love the colours in your photo.

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>>4152208
return it/have it fixed if still under warranty
learn to live with it if not
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>>4151748
>for Nikon G lenses
yeah true, I wasn't thinking of those. I only have Nikon lenses with aperture rings.
>>4151790
it's my understanding that many lenses intentionally focus past infinity. see https://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/40995/why-do-some-lenses-focus-past-infinity

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I have a Fuji XT3 that I got in August last year, I haven't updated any firmwares yet or whatever. I don't really have an issue with how I use it now so should I bother updating or aren't there any noteworthy changes I can see?
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>>4152629
One of the older firmware versions freezes
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>>4152629
https://fujifilm-x.com/global/support/download/firmware/cameras/x-t3/
every version release has release notes saying what changed
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le street snap

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>>4153147

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>>4153148
had intended to stick in bw but my discipline broke

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I notice Fuji threads get a lot more actual original photo posts than similar brand/gear themed threads, very interesting...
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>>4153149

>>4149659
very dope

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>>4153153

>>4152629
neat that's when i got mine!
>>4150318
>35mm fov is just the perfect middle ground.
i'm in the process of trying out a lot of different lenses and i am worried that i will also land at 35 ff, which will make me feel quite foolish for not just sticking with my old x100t. oh well

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>>4153156

>>4153152
maybe other brand threads have more pros and they don't want to post client work? also over a third of the pics itt are from me...
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>>4153162
dropped pic

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>>4153162
well he said threads plural. it's generally pretty true that fuji threads tend to feature photos I think.

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I'm on holiday and my fooj has the hardest time metering in this overcast/foggy type of weather. Back home I don't think it ever produced a badly exposed picture without me screwing it up. Anyone else had a rough time with the metering in certain conditions?

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>>4153256
yeah i've been posting a lot of pics to these threads for a few weeks
but it's true that there are many other anons posting pics too
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>have silver X100V
>deeply regret not getting the black one now
>no fucking chance to swap it
Life is suffering. The silver was the only available model when I got it.
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>>4153259
Keep your eye on the histogram, and you'll be fine. xtrans overexposes quickly, but has excellent shadows retention, so just make sure that you only overexpose when intended, the rest can be fixed later.
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>>4153357
I have a black one with like, 50 shots taken total. I should sell it since it’s currently being hyped up by tiktok, But it’s such a beautiful camera, I don’t want to give it up. I don’t know what changed between my x100t and this one, in all respects it’s a better camera but I just cba to bring it with me anywhere anymore.
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>>4153551
doesn't feel like i'm improving

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>>4153259
They always struggle with overcast skies and will underexpose your subject
Put on highlight exposure warning if you need to, but 99 % of all cases you can simply put in +1 exposure compensation
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>>4153259
black and white can work well in such conditions.

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>>4153604
this doesn't look like an overcast sky
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>>4153609
it's not but it's shooting into the sun, hard to meter.
generally speaking in scenes which are hard to expose correctly black and white makes life easier.
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>>4153259
Exp +1 in these conditions, always.

>>4153604
This isn't overcast and it's underexposed af

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>>4153659
your image is blurry, completely out of focus and underexposed
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>>4153670
That's not underexposed. What are you, a film SLR's center weighted metering algorithm? You expose for what you see, not for perfectly even brightness across every photo no matter when or where it was taken. We're not snoy boys who only shoot raw, ETTR, and then push and pull sliders around to totally destroy any 3d pop in our images, are we?
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Can anyone explain this to me regarding my XT3. When I take photos I usually either just check the LCD or check the metering to get the correct exposure. The image looks good in playback on my LCD. However, when I import them to Lr they are very dark and underexposed looking. Not too dark but definitely not as good as they seemed on the LCD regarding brightness. It feels like I have to overexpose the meter to get a "neutral" looking image. What can be the cause of this or is it normal? Shoot raw always
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>>4153672
do you have a dynamic range setting other than DR100, or dynamic range priority enabled? if you use either of these, your camera will purposely underexpose and then raise the shadows to create a higher dynamic range jpeg, but the raw will be underexposed.
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>>4150575
That's what I was thinking, but they don't seem to have the two-head remote kit for Fuji anymore so I figured I'd look into other options.
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>>4153670
It's not underexposed and it was shot with a 70 year old lens lmao

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>>4150318
share film sim?
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>>4153604
>>4152210
https://www.behance.net/gallery/56606247/BLACK
this u?
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>>4153695
It's on AUTO. Should I have it on DR100? Also what of Dynamic Range Priority? It's 'off' now but I can put it on strong weak or whatever.
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>>4153942
>Should I have it on DR100?
No, always shoot at 400 %
DR100 sucks

I'm also not sure this >>4153695 is true, as the camera supposedly shoots at three different ISOs at DR400
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>>4153672
Use the histogram, not your LCD to determine exposure.

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>>4153933
No man. I'm not an experienced photographer at all.
I like that guys photos a lot though.
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Comfy direct usb-c x100v to Ipad lightroom editing on the couch.

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>>4153980
How come I can't connext my XT3 to my Mac's Lightroom through USBC
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>>4154024
Did you set your x-t3 to usb card reader connection mode?
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>>4154038
yea
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>>4153942
never mind what I said, I was mistaken I think. it seems that people can't agree on what actually is happening and how it affects the raw file. what is clear is that what I said isn't the case. I took some test images and read some stuff a while back and I think I misremembered the conclusions.
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>>4153672
How do the histograms compare? Could be as simple as the LCD being too bright.
>>4153695
This is true, but the exposure correction is either baked into the RAW or flagged such that LR would get it back to baseline. DR modes shouldn't give an underexposed image in LR.
>>4153942
>>4153945
>>4154050
The DR settings change how the camera captures an image, and affect RAW. DR Priority combines the different DR settings with additional curves which affect JPG's only. The DR settings trade 1-2 stops of shadows for 1-2 stops more highlights. For DR400, the camera meters at ISO 640, but then actually exposes at ISO 160 (underexposed 2 stops), and then boosts shadows / midtones back to normal. This gives you 2 more stops in the highlights, but 2 fewer stops in the shadows.
DR100 + underexposing + correcting exposure in post will get you the same results as DR200/400, the later just does it in-camera.
DR100 + ETTR will get you the widest dynamic range. If you aren't clipping your highlights, no reason to go above DR100 unless you hate shadows I guess.
Downside to leaving it on 400 all the time, is that it forces you to shoot metered at ISO 640, which could be problematic if you were say shooting wide open on a sunny day and maxing out your mechanical shutter. It also means that your shadows/midtones will have a higher amount of noise than they otherwise might. I did one session all at DR400, and the unnecessarily added noise was the dealbreaker for me.
I usually leave mine on DR auto now. Gives me that extra stop if it thinks I need it, with negligible impact on shooting / IQ.
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Do any of you guys use old lenses on your Fujis? Can you tell the difference between old and modern lenses?

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Haven't done much real photography in the last few years, but I decided to dust off the X-Pro2 and do some pics of my truck while there was snow in the mountains. This one's a bit overdone but I think it's cool.

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>>4154308
And here's a much more restrained shot/edit.

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>>4154309
they look like phone snapshits, put a CPL on
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>>4154076
Ya I can tell the diff between a contemporary lens vs one of my 70 year old lenses.

First time taking the xpro out after being fixed up by Fuji. Feels good to have it back.

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>>4154308
>>4154309
lol seppos and their trucks masquerading as an identity
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>>4154356
nice
>>4154076
i have one old lens. i can kinda tell it apart

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>>4154342
Yeah I really need to get one, used to have a bunch when I was on Nikon but none of them match my Fuji lens sizes.
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>>4148683
Is switching from Lightroom to C1 a good choice? I've been using Lightroom for years now but I want to get the most out of my XT3. Hate to re-learn everything to edit though but if it's a worthy upgrade then I would. What do you think?

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>>4154439
Consider Darktable. Its features and capabilities are on par with the paid stuff, sometimes exceeding in certain ways (like highlight recovery if you learn filmic + the scene referred workflow), but it's a little less simple to pick up I suppose. Anyways, it has never had issues with Fuji raws since they get various parties sending them the necessary samples every time a new body comes out in order to get the demosiacing right quickly, per how the project is free and open source.
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>>4154464
>paid stuff
I only pirate desu
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>>4154439
yes, capture one is great.
I think your picture is overprocessed and looks unnatural
>>4154464
darktable is an unusable piece of garbage for turbo autists
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>>4154439
C1 used to be a lot more advanced, but LR has come a long ways and is much closer to being on feature parity. I definitely prefer a sessions based approach (which you can also do in LR), and the tethering is hard to beat. I greatly prefer the color tools and more customizable UI too.
You can "get the most" out of your camera in any of the programs. If you aren't getting the kind of edits you want in LR, it's not because of the program, it's just your own technique / skill.
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>>4154526
Darktable is a little less dumbed down, sure, but if one thinks it unusable once they get the workflow sorted out, they might just be retarded.
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>>4154532
no, it's not "a little less dumbed down", it's literally impenetrable to anybody but a turbo autist. I am not being hyperbolic.
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>>4154526
Hello, adobe/phase one marketing department
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>>4154544
have you tried not having a sub-100 IQ?
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>>4154544
See
>>4154550

>open darktable
>I want to correct noise
>type "noise" in the search bar over the list of features
>get 3 denoise options
>turn each one on and see what they do
>cool
>i want to change contrast
>type "contrast" in the search bar
>cool
>curves?
>same
>Load a LUT?
>type in "LUT" oh there it is.
Wow so obtuse. Unless you're a turbo sperg like I WANT TO SHIFT THE GREEN MAGENTA AXIS OF 40% RED it's totally fine. What's bothering you? The save dialog is in a box on the left instead of in a drop down menu like the rest of your crapintosh programs?
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>>4154569
If you choose a workflow (like the recommended recent scene-referred workflow), it arranges by default the tools they suggest in tabs going left to right, and within the tabs tools going top to bottom, all in the order you'd generally be recommended to apply them in. If you find yourself needing different versions of the same general type of adjustment option, you can make customized toolsets to streamline how you prefer to do things. There's also great documentation and plenty of videos for all this, though again just going scene-referred and using the simplified selection of modules provided covers basically all the same bases as something like lightroom, just with deeper control per module if you dig into it.
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What a terrible value proposition lol
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>>4154660
>a fucking leaf
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>>4154664
I'm not a leaf, I just selected CAD to misdirect you, dear predictable.
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>>4154660
I know, it's great value.

What else even is there in this price that isn't used 5+ year old garbage?

For this kind of money, the only competition is the Z6II and the a7rIII, both of which are ancient and shit in every way other than being full frame.
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>>4154678
panasonic S5 mogs it
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>>4154679
X-T5 is definitely worse in some areas, but has:
better EVF (size & resolution), better ibis
internal 6k, more stills mp (and higher res pixel shift)
better battery life, lighter weight, and smaller size
better autofocus and stills fps
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>>4154679

what >>4154694 said, plus:
- plain S5 is old tech again
- S5II body is like 300 USD more than an X-T5 body.
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>>4154678
I think you would benefit from remembering this:
40mp on APS-C is not the same as 40mp on full frame unless the lens is also twice as good, just like high MP full frame doesn't equal the same MP on medium format. Sensor cope wars are absolutely meaningless. You will get nowhere with them, you will accomplish nothing. Bigger more expensive cameras have more image quality.

But smaller cameras typically do video and electronic shutter better because there's less wafer to read out.

>>4154678
Both of the cameras you mentioned are way more versatile for stills. The X-T5 is better for video, and exists to make you angry at fuji for charging $300 more for the exact same camera but without larp dials (X-H2. Why?). If you're buying the X-T5 for stills and don't do video so seriously that you do extensive post production and distribute professionally so people would even watch it in better quality than 4k, you're not really getting anything meaningful over the X-T4, or cheaper full frame cameras for that matter.

Why is being used a problem anyways? I still have working cameras from 2005.
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>>4154772
what cheaper full frame cameras?
I have yet to see a new modern full frame camera in the same price range as the X-T5 that doesn't make completely ridiculous compromises.

For 1700$, what camera can you get new (that isn't outdated/replaced by its manufacturer) that
- is full frame
- competes with X-T5 in video, lens availability/quality/price, ibis, size, and stills shutter speed

I have yet to see one.

A7RIII is a dinosaur and not worth buying in 2023, Sony clearly does not care about that camera anymore. X-T5 has better EVF, faster shooting, better stabilization, 6k video, and less expensive lenses over the both the cameras I mentioned earlier.

The A7RIII is full frame and has slightly better AF, that's all it has over the X-T5.

Z6II is just full frame. Bad UI and worse AF than the X-T5, one of the memory card slots is dumb ass CF, slower stills shutter, way worse video.

It looks to me like the next camera that's meaningfully better than the X-T5 across the board is the A7RV and it costs more than double.
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>>4154797
>Isn't outdated
Why have this stipulation? Old cameras still work.
>6k video
Literally no one in real life cares about video quality. Most people can't even watch a video in such a way that they would notice 4k. Stills quality is in a different world. Anyone can order a huge print offline. And this is a photography board, not a video board. Photography is a quality based medium, like painting, because the image can be viewed however people want to view it. Video is enjoyed from a significant distance from the display, often in a lossy format, and frames are ogled for less than 1/30 of a second.
>Lense availability/quality/price
Sony wins. Fuji lenses are soft as shit.
>IBIS
A gimmick feature mostly relevant to video. Very little photography that needs tripod-worthy shutter speeds is done without a tripod. The times you need stab, with long lenses, it's built into the lense.
>size
They are the same.
>Shutter speed
APS-C is always faster shooting. EOS R7 beats it by 1fps and is $200 less. Yeah, lenses, but with fuji and sony you have 5 good lenses (with fuji its more like "5 average lenses") you will actually use and then 15 cheap chinese ones that are absolutely terrible. This is one of those things where it's reaching. Faster bursts don't help you take nicer looking photos. Like the megapixel wars pushing APS-C up to 60 and full frame up to 100 eventually, the point of sufficiency was passed 10 years ago.
>EVF
Oh no the viewfinder is less pretty.

The X-T5 is a good video camera and a mediocre stills camera that despite its gimmicks has not been able to equal the raw image quality of a 5 year old sony or a 10 year old nikon DSLR. You get so little unless you are a professional videographer producing for netflix or something that you might as well get the X-T4 or a used FF. Fuji's had their A7RIV moment, where fewer and fewer people have a real reason to spend the extra money with each release.
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>>4154745
this one is actually really good
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>blow your wad on an x-t5
>the pictures look the same as an xt4, even if you pixel peep
>for 99% of the world so does the video (if blown up stills look the same does the 6k video even look any different?)
>blow your wad on a snoy so you can crop for reach
>pictures look the same as a 10 year old nikon dslr
>10 year old 36mp nikon you can buy for $500 still looks slightly sharper than a brand new $1700 xt5
>if you want ibis it's $700 and called the pentax k-1
now you know what gear really does
almost nothing or nothing depending on your sensorlet status
don't waste your money

>but i get an extra 2 stops of ibis...
i'm really loving those 5 second handheld exposures man everything in them is tack sharp lol
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>>4154803
>Fuji lenses are soft as shit.

If they’re soft as shit then lenses are way beyond what any rational person would need. I don’t even shoot Fuji anymore but your constant shitposting and FF shilling is a stain on this board. Eternal nophoto.

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>>4154811
>posts a soft image
I don't know why you'd go over a 1" sensor if you think that's amazing.

I'm only shilling FF over APS-C in the way that MF gets shilled over FF. To remind you that you bought a professional tool that is not yet king of gear mount, to urge you to re-consider what you really need for your chosen distribution format.

APS-C is just gimped FF and spending more and more money on numbers doesn't change that, as the numbers stopped doing anything a while ago. Smaller numbers on bigger cameras magically get better results anyways. Meanwhile gear fools spend and spend and spend... so their x-t5 takes the same photos as an x-t3 and their $4000 SNOY takes the same photos as a 10 year old DSLR. All YOU need is micro four thirds (it's more than you need but i'll give you some leeway for edge cases and cropping!). It even has bokeh and you can get great cameras for way under a grand, as well as more lenses than literally any other mount
>MFT lenses are produced by Cosina Voigtländer, DJI, Kowa, Kodak, Mitakon, Olympus, Panasonic, Samyang, Sharp, Sigma, SLR Magic, Tamron, Tokina, TTArtisan, Veydra, Xiaomi, Laowa, Yongnuo, Zonlai, Lensbaby, Kowa, Venus Optics and 7artisans amongst others.
How about video? You don't need more than the video capabilities of GH6 or even a GH5. If you do, tell us about that big budget production that's hitting hulu next year, and why you didn't just use a dedicated cinema camera.
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>>4154814
based demotivational anti-gearfag-gearfag

what's the goal? to frustrate people with the endless "but this is better" until they give up, admit to themselves that they don't even need 5mp, and buy a canon s95?
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>>4154814
>>4154806
Based as fuck
>i need i need i need...bigger number better bigger number bigger number must spend another thousand dollars. snoy foolji snoy foolji! canon! nikon!
>i can't take a good video unless it's 4k i mean 6k
>i can't take photos with 5 stop ibis i need 7 stop ibis
>this lens is so sharp
>you call that sharp? you can't even see the hairs on his head
>record scratch
>people literally cant tell the difference between fuji and pana/oly micro four thirds for pics and video
micro four CHADS and pentax friends win again
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>>4154814
>>4154806
You are unhinged. The only gearfag here is you, spending more time shitposting than taking photos. I'd wager to guess you do not even have a camera.

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>>4154797
>Z6II has bad UI
care to elaborate? isn't fuji UI worse compared to canikon? especially the ux and ergonomics
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>>4154814
Tbh I moved from M43 (gx85) to Fuji because they weren't putting out new bodies with features I wanted as my use case evolved, nor a form factor I wanted (I have small hands and like slim cameras), that were any cheaper or better than the used X-T4 I ended up getting. Image quality gains were secondary to that (though much more real than simply upgrading to the next gen within any given system), and I agree that upgrading to the X-T5 or whatever eventually would be way too incremental to bother, nor do I really enjoy paying the new price for high end stuff. At this point I'd only buy another body as either a secondary that fulfills a unique niche better than my primary, if what I used was like a decade out of date (because again, beyond image quality, by then there will surely be actual new useful features), or if something compelled me to switch systems entirely again.
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>>4154745
What film sim is this? The light/dark transitions look really nice
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>>4154660
>buying latest gen new
also bruh there are like 5 people here who care about the x-t5. who are you even addressing
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>>4154837
Yeah lmao, I'm the same guy from two posts up and even if I ever did wanna upgrade to, for instance, this first gen of 40mp bodies (which imo I don't consider really desirable at present, especially for the increased file size for a wash in IQ), I'm willing to bet in a couple years used X-H2 bodies will be cheaper than used X-T5 bodies because there's just not the same love for the more conventional body styles in the system (see: X-H1, or how the X-S10 has never been at risk of being sold out) so they depreciate faster. I'd just go that route then.

This is also why I think the X-S10 will become a killer buy for capable yet "entry level" priced APS-C once the X-S20 drops within a handful of months. Could see used X-S10s being commonly down to $500 in a year, just based on the purchasing habits of Fuji users so far.
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why is dpreview so incompetent?
I converted their own raw with lightroom myself and got a vastly sharper image than theirs.
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>>4154866
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Will Fuji come out with a XT 300 anytime soon?
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>>4154871
A lot of their bodies are getting to be due for an upgrade. As I mentioned earlier, the X-S20 is almost certainly coming in a few months (announcement expected at the April Fuji Summit), maybe others will be announced then too. If not, it's still likely we'll get a trickle in the next couple years of, in some random order, the X-E5, X-T40, X100VI, X-Pro4, and possibly the X-T300 depending on if all those lines survive or get condensed into fewer options.

Imo the X-Txx is the least unique offering and the one I'd be fine with them cutting, especially if it means they could maybe make the X-Es a little nicer (ideally WR and/or IBIS) as the singular main "sub-XT" LARP model, becoming more comparable to the X-S line in features but catering to a different form factor.
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Anyone have any experience with the Meyer-Optik Trioplan 50mm that’s on X Mount? I’ve been thinking about getting one in the future.
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>>4154871
IIRC the X-S* is replacing it as the entry level line
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>>4154805
Thanks anon

>>4154823
My own E6 sim using Classic Chrome as a base. These are sooc
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This was a fun experiment. I need to try this with more lenses.

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>>4154868
>>4154866
They turn off as much artificial sharpening as possible for the tests.
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>>4154550 >>4154554 >>4154569 >>4154597
I invite everybody to try it and see for themselves. I'm a huge fan of FOSS in general and I'm not at all happy that darktable is so awful, but it's just the truth. Have you never used Capture One / Lightroom? There's just no comparison.
>>4154772
dang, normally I'd post the chart onions meme but this is actually a really good illustration of APS-C's inherent limitations compared with larger sensors. granted none of this matters at the viewing size that 99% of people are working at, but since it's in reply to a post purporting resolution benefits over full frame cameras, it's relevant. I did a similar test with lower resolution full frame cameras and it still held true that the full frame cameras looked better than the significantly higher MP fuji.
>>4154803
>it's built into the lense
you're not servicing your argument well when you can't even spell a basic photography gear term correctly, my guy.
>>4154745 >>4154811
nice ones
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>>4154920
noice
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>>4154951
>dang, normally I'd post the chart onions meme but this is actually a really good illustration of APS-C's inherent limitations compared with larger sensors
Don't even worry about it. A 50mp medium format camera (made by fuji btw) has more detail than a 60mp full frame camera. How are FF fanboys going to cope with that?

All that test shows is that you shouldn't worry about wasting your money on 40mp fujis. 26mp is fine. Even the X-T3 still kills it because almost no real photography needs IBIS.
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>>4154955
yeah I'm not personally concerned with it because like I said, it makes no difference at the sizes I'm viewing and sharing photos at. I just think it's interesting to note when people are jerking over specs.
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>Be GH6 no base ISO RAW cope allowed
>look the same as APS-C
>look the same as fool frame
>barely look any different from $4000 fool frame
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>>4154951
>dang, normally I'd post the chart onions meme but this is actually a really good illustration of APS-C's inherent limitations
It's not, anyone using the studio test for things like detail / sharpness is a fool. It's useful for seeing a visual difference in image resolution (not detail), and unprocessed noise, or sooc jpg engines.
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>>4154963
>image resolution not detail
yeah i'm sure taking a picture of feathers, paintbrushes, and turf on a table somehow fails to capture magical 3d pop dtails that can only be found in street photography. not.

it's a great tool for detail/sharpness, and that's exactly what it's for. just mind the lenses they use because sometimes they use trash ones because there isn't a better lens available at the time or they didn't do their research, but here they actually used pretty good lenses.

the only people who would disagree and insist that somehow, a photo of paintbrushes, turf, and feathers on a table can't show sharpness (that's bullshit, a piece of paper can test detail/sharpness, and is the industry standard way of doing so) are those who just saw that the camera they bought expecting better photos takes the same photos as the 3 older, lower MP camera before it, and snoy boys who just now saw that the GFX50s is sharper and more detailed than their $5000 60mp snoy toy. dpreview's pixel peeping page gets a lot of hate because people get to see exactly how minor to nonexistent the difference they pay for are.
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>>4154962
>gh6
>cheaper than fuji new
>cheaper than fuji used
>more lenses, cheaper lenses, better lenses (leica!)
>same photo quality
>better video quality
>has a cooling fan so it doesn't overheat after 30 minutes like the xt4 and xt5
$2000 camera sisters, we lost...
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>>4154968
>it's a great tool for detail/sharpness, and that's exactly what it's for.
except that there's a huge variance in the lenses used and the processing defaults affect different brands in different ways
at the very least, you should be downloading the raws, processing your own way, and compare that
like >>4154962 the x-t5 here is using the older 56 f1.2 vs sony's 85 f1.4, which is certainly better, but would be interested to see vs sony's 85 f1.8
even if it was just to show off "the best of the system", it should be using the new 56 f1.2

>the only people who would disagree and insist that somehow, a photo of paintbrushes, turf, and feathers on a table can't show sharpness
i would never say that, i just think there are a lot of factors to consider when viewing comparisons like this
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>>4154978
The old 56mm f1.2 is still one of the sharper lenses relative to the rest on fuji and APS-C in general, comparable to if not superior to the sony 85mm f1.8. Which you can see being used here.

APS-C just can't exactly get as sharp as full frame and packing megapixels into it isn't going to get you there. The image circle has to render the details just as finely, but 50% smaller, while smaller photosites have to perform just as well as larger ones. You would be spending several thousand dollars per lens to achieve that, and your camera would be twice as expensive. It's not feasible or sensible. If your sensor is smaller, don't blow your image up as much. That's life.

Making the X-T5 and X-H2 40mp was a huge mistake on fuji's part (if they wanted to be nice to people), when they should have been pushing the sensor tech of the X-H2s. Better megapixels >>>>>>>> bigger megapixels. But it's business, suckers get scammed into paying for more megapixels, realize they suck, and then pay extra for the X-H2s with its better megapixels. Just like how the X-H2 exists to milk you for another few hundred when you realize the larp controls on the X-T# cameras are stupid (and slap snoy in the face with a better body design than literally every camera they make). Meanwhile micro four thirds is probably going to die because they did exactly this, they made better megapixels before they made more megapixels and the cameras get 200% the performance out of smaller sensors. All the bodies were well designed. there was no scammy upgrade path so profits were too low. RIP.
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>>4154962
You're gonna need to go higher than 400 ISO and do raw instead of jpeg to see the real differences in each format using that tool. As someone who still owns a m43 camera and some lenses, I'll note that somehow the format actually underperforms proportionate to the expected ~2 stops worse high ISO the sensor size difference would imply compared to full frame (maybe because almost none of the sensors are BSI or something, idk), while Fuji actually perceptually overperforms for much of the range, often looking about the same (definitely helped by its more pleasant noise characteristics) or at worst a half-step lesser rather than the anticipated one stop worse (again, based on sensor size). Note I'm just addressing noise here, sure there's also harder to quantify differences in sharpness, color, etc. in each gear stack.
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>>4154970
The GH6 is like the same price as the X-T5 new, and used you'd get a X-T4 several hundred dollars cheaper. Also, I think most people don't experience overheating after 30 minutes on either, stress tests in regular conditions normally take some hours iirc. Like most cameras, the 30 minute thing was a matter of prudence and complying with the retarded Euro tax code on cameras before they decided to go all-in on making video gear.

Leica cobranded Lumix lenses are nice but they're both not the same as regular Leica lenses, nor do I actually think Leica shit is all that special anyhow (consoomer cope mainly).

I could keep going but I know I'm just dignifying bait here...
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>>4154982
I wouldn't call m43 megapixels "better pixels" when pretty much all the sensors in the system are years behind, almost none of which are BSI or stacked, and the cameras generally perform MORE than the anticipated two stops worse in noise than contemporary full frame when compared (e.g. compare raws on dpreview took at 3200 or 6400, for instance).

But you're right the 40mp move is dumb. Maybe it will make more sense when the processor catches up and/or they make a stacked version of the 40mp and they produce some kind of X-H2(s) successor that can do 8k open gate + massively bin/downsample to 6k or 4k without too much rolling shutter for the video sorts who may want that (since you need like 33mp or so to even do 8k). I think resolutions above 4k for video are pretty dumb for finished products, but I get the argument for post-reframing latitude and downsampling. But for stills I'd rather just not even be wrangling the heavier files since the image quality is frankly a wash compared to last gen Fujis.

I hope possibly they'll consider giving the lower end new models to come (X-S, X-E, etc.) the same last gen BSI 26mp sensor and instead upgrade processors and give them respective missing features like WR or IBIS, etc. as the selling points instead, but that's probably wishful thinking.
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>>4154985
Looking at raws for noise is a waste of your time. Do you use raws without NR applied? No, you always apply noise reduction and detail reconstruction.
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>>4154990
Well, being that Fuji x-trans sensors actually have imo nicer noise pound for pound (less chroma, more pleasing luma patterns) than any other mainstream digital option, I'm less likely to be heavy handed with NR in post, and on the jpgs when I use those, I would never have the in-camera setting above -4 (minimum NR, I think it still gets rid of pretty much any perceptual chroma noise anyhow which is all that matters). When the noise isn't ugly, I'd rather preserve detail than push NR hard.
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>>4154993
>Nicer noise
That's pure cope.

Noise is noise, it all looks grainy and bad especially before you remove chroma noise. Excessive megapixels make it worse on any camera. Choosing between xtrans vs. bayer noise is like choosing between chunky diarrhea and watery diarrhea.

Xtrans does its job at reducing moire, anything beyond that is silly. It's just APS-C sans moire.
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>>4154962
>>4154982
Following up from my other example above >>4150519, going left to right
M10-M + 50mm APO at f2.8/f5.6, then X-T5 + 33mm at f2/f4, then 50r (30mp ff mode) + 50mm f2.8
50r (30mp ff mode) + 50mm f5.6, then 50r + 80mm at f4/f8, X-T3 + 33mm at f2/f4
These are all ~200% crops, with 0 sharpening or NR applied. The differences are negligible for 99% of people.
I've actually been digging the X-T5 + 80 macro for product stuff since the 50r doesn't have pixel shift.
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>>4154998
i mean you can see even in your example that x-trans shows less chroma noise
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>>4155003
There's a third component showing up far earlier replacing chrome and luma noise in equal parts. Voids, where there is nothing. It looks like you took the FF image and punched little holes in it. You could call it film like - if film is pushed too far the grain is so severe that there are spots where there is nothing between individual grains except bare celluloid. Probably an effect of oversized green pixels not getting enough light when coping with ISO. This effect is less dramatic and shows up later on FF bayer. After the camera's mild built in NR runs, a less MP-packed FF sensor displays more pleasing, finer grain for the same exposure settings. Lower MP xtrans is also finer grained but the chunky character remains visible.

Some of the voids even show up in the jpeg after NR

Chunky diarrhea or runny diarrhea, take your pick.
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>>4154998
>>4155018
>diarrhea diarrhea diarrhea
さすがプープコだ
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80 shots in one hour today. nothing good

>>4154922
might be cool on a curve

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>>4148800
Is this Beacon?
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>>4155249
nope
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i love my xt4

i dont need the xhs2

i dont need it

I DONT NEED IT

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>4148690
If the GX mount had some monster telephotos and AF close-ish to the big 3x (I know that's not exactly it's focus). I would've taken the plunge.
I really wanted the 100s but the Fuji roadmap didn't instill much confidence.
So I ended up going Z9 instead.
I might still get a 100s or a successor in the future when I have moar dough. That resolution kinda gets me hard.
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fujifriends ...i've bought like 7 lenses since october
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>>4155760
that's a lot of lenses. I want to buy 23 and 35 f/2 lenses but I kind of want to find someone selling them both used so I don't have to find separate sellers.
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>>4155839
sorry i don't have either of those
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>receive notification that my 18 mm is back from repair
>live tracking tells me it's to be delivered in a few minutes
>allow them to drop it off at my house door as I can't make it home in time
>website says it's in delivery
>detailed status says it couldn't be delivered
>sent them a mail asking which of the two is true
>we're sorry for your inconvenience and have tolt the delivery centre to follow your instructions for drop-off
every stinking time
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>>4155760
which one do you like most
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>>4153923
X-T100 has no real film sim options, it's Classic Chrome with +2 shadows, +1 color and -1 highlights
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>>4155926
It's the standard here at this point. I once stayed at home to collect a package and got a message I wasn't home while sitting in front of the door.
Here they do it so they can drop it off elsewhere at a central location, which I don't mind that much
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>>4156024
this is great
>>4156026
this is boring
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>>4155932
fuji 90mm f2 has my fav output but it's too big and long for edc, so 35mm 1.4 in that regard.

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mfw out of focus but i'm not too broken up about it since her shoes kinda put a damper on the outfit which i hadn't realized at the time

>>4156287
dramatic

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I miss my Canon DSLR :( sold and replaced by Fujifilm XT3 because of the age and useless autofocus but miss it the good and heavy feel of the Canon 6D. Am I just overreacting?
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>>4156330
>i got something better but i miss my worse thing because it was worse
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>>4156330
>i got rid of my better thing for a worse thing and am now unhappy
Maybe get an xh2
Or a sony/nikon

The xt series is a fucking meme
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>>4156330
just put a heavy grip + l-bracket on it
heavy lenses like the 16-55 also help
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>>4156338
That won’t change the larpy styled control scheme to superior PASM.
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>>4156339
I mean you know you don't have to use any of the dedicated dials, right? Everything can be shifted to the command dials just like how every other camera roughly works, or even some selectively. I don't manually set all the dials between shots like perhaps some people super into doing everything very manually might, but swapping between what is functionally aperture priority (where I am most the time) and full manual, or even full auto (god forbid), or toggling auto-ISO, or whatever takes about the same time and number of actions as any other camera if you understand how each PASM mode actually works and/or aren't braindead.

Still, for other reasons I'd rather have an X-H or X-S style body, but for now a used X-T4 was the best value on the market for everything I wanted. Like the X-H1, the X-S10 will probably drop in value rapidly soon after the X-S20 drops which we know is coming soon (so I may get an X-S10 on the cheap then as my secondary body when I just wanna have fun casually shooting), and likewise it's very feasible in a few years, used X-H2 bodies may be cheaper than used X-T5s when the next iterations hit.
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>>4156351
But then it's still not PASM, it's "hyper program mode" AKA automtaed differently depending on which button you press. There's a reason this autism is uncommon - decision fatigue.
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>>4156372
>>4156351
kek my pentax has a P mode that works like a fuji with command dials mapped (albeit with ISO and EV buttons) and i fucking hate it. i'll be taking photos, walk around, go to take photos, and surprise it's a shutter priority camera at the moment, something got bumped. it gets confusing especially if you have other stuff going on (ie: friends with you).
>ah what the fuck god fucking damnit
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oof

>>4156329
neat

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Fairly new X-E4 owner here. I'm considering getting the hand grip (MHG-XE4). Will the grip part that's in contact with the leatherette body eventually leave wear marks; and cause uneven look in the body?
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>>4156623
don't have one myself but I can't really see how it wouldn't. do you have the thumb rest? I'm a big fan of it, and it makes it comfortable for me to hold it one handed.

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>>4154922
How was this taken?
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slow board

>>4157099
what do you mean?

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>>4157099
1 second exposure. The repeating sharp edges of the reflective signs may be exaggerated due to LED headlights flickering at 75Hz or whatever it is they are being driven at.
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How would you crop this?

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What would be a good babby's first fuji? I had my eyes on an X-T2 or X-E2, but I'm very indecisive.
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Can someone please confirm I'm not being stupid?

The "film simulations" that make the rounds on YouTube and sites like Fujixweekly are bullshit, right? All that really matters is the contrast and white balance they set, right?

I figure it's hype built by morons but either the circlejerk is too big or I'm missing something obvious.
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>>4157456
only white balance and the name of the film sim are stored in the raw

capture one can apply the film sim to the raw if you want
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>>4157452
X-S10 when the X-S20 comes in a few months and the 10 drops a few hundred further on the used market. If you can get one in good shape below, say, $700 at that time (with my prediction it'll be about $500 in a year), that's a real solid price for what's very close to being an XT-4 specwise.
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>>4157443
something like this
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it says 35mm f1.2 but this is on the 23mm f1.2 page. my goal for this year is to get my pic on the voigtlander page!

>>4157443
i'd leave it as is
>>4157452
what system are you coming from? what do you want to gain from switching and what types shooting do you want to do?
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>>4157495
How does the AF on the XS-10 compare to the X-T4/H2s? Considering picking one up as a backup/upgrade from my current X-T3.

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>>4157504
Couldn't tell you first hand yet, though I'm certain comparisons exist out there on YouTube or whatever. It should be basically identical to the X-T4 given that they share the same sensor and processor stack, and the reduced price is based on other compromises in body and features (no second card slot, not WR, smaller EVF, slightly worse IBIS due to being smaller, slightly less video options, smaller battery, etc.) though in return you get probably nicer ergos for most hands.

I plan to do what I told the other guy: buy an X-S10 when they get real cheap used over the next year, since non-LARP fuji bodies so far depreciate much faster when superseded. Then eventually (if I stick with the system long term) in some years, I'd like to replace my X-T4 with maybe an X-H3 or whatever when the time comes, and have a whole set up on non-LARP Fuji cameras--one bigger "serious" body, and a smaller travel/fun/B-cam body that I can alternate upgrading within the X-H and X-S lines.

I don't mind the dials per se, and the used X-T4 I've started with is a real good value these days, but I use a SmallRig grip on it anyhow. Would've gotten an X-H1 since they're incredibly cheap now (thus my prediction regarding the X-S10's future value), but it just fell short on a handful of things I wanted in ways all subsequent serious Fuji cameras won't.
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The profiles built into the camera are quite good. But what is distributed on Fujixweekly under old famous names is kinda lame. There is nothing wrong with custom settings - everyone has their own goals, shooting conditions and vision of beauty. But all those "Portras" and "Kodachromes" have nothing common with real film stock.

>All that really matters is the contrast and white balance they set, right?

And WB Shift and (for new generation cameras) Colour Chrome effects

There are also some color differences in each basic camera profile.

All this is just like the icing on the cake of a something nice or interesting in your viewfinder on a beautiful sunny day. Colour photography is all about good light. If you have one - then you get nice colours in your photo.

X-T20, kit lens, Provia daylight sooc

>I figure it's hype built by morons but either the circlejerk is too big or I'm missing something obvious.

I don't know where it started, with what ideas. But as it stands now, it resembles methods of building an obedient audience to monetize it (ad serving)
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>>4157513
Please take your medication
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>>4157452
X-T20/30
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>>4157456
Ignoring their usual bullshit names, setting up a few custom sims on your own camera is fantastic. It's akin to choosing a roll of film for a specific looking and not needing to worry about editing it in later.
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>>4157456
anon, afaik film fims don't apply to raws and you should be shooting raw so it doesn't matter much, does it?
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>>4157456
They're just Fuji's take on in-camera filters / presets. Other brands offer similar functionality, and some have even more customization.
Basically every setting will effect a JPG. The DR100-400 is about the only "recipe" setting that will also affect RAW. RAW processor's can apply a similar "film simulation" base profile, but then everything else you'd need to adjust on your own.
They're convenient and good enough for a lot of people. Long-term it's probably better to learn how to process on your own, so you aren't dependent on your camera model for editing.
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>>4157456
just think of them as presets. none of them look remotely like the film they're named after. and yeah, most are accomplished with a fixed white balance color temperature and/or a white balance shift doing most of the heavy lifting. as a side effect, this also means they'll behave very differently depending on the white balance of the scene you're photographing.
it's ok to play around with them but they aren't as useful as I imagined they'd be before getting into fuji.



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