Does my camera actually need more than 120p?

>>4136923
well you need a lot of bright lights to run such a fast shutter speed and the camera needs to still shoot it in a good codec.
and then you need a subject that actually looks better in 180/240/300 which really aren't common outside of flames and pouring liquid.

so id say no.

>>4136923
4k probably not, but if your camera doesn't have more than 120p in FHD it's a shit camera

>>4136920
Anyone tried to go tapeless with their GL2? I got one on the cheap and I've been experimenting a bit but that bloody firewire output really get to my nerve

>>4136920
How does renting save any money at all. You could buy a bmpcc 4k for the same amount of money that it could cost to rent another camera body for less than a week. If you buy the bmpcc 4k you have a camera you could always use for passion projects. Why would someone even want to rent unless you could find a complete package for under $100 a weekend? Is renting how Hollywood launders the money they get from investors since Hollywood probably owns the rental houses that they rent their gear from?

>>4137056
Renting is a relic from when cinema cameras cost $10k on the low-end.
Current DoPs are all from that period so they're used to it. Buying an arri is never worth it because it's so expensive and the insurance for the camera will mean that it won't be cheaper than renting for a very long time.
Because it's the production that would rents/own the cameras, these cameras wouldn't be interchangeable across lots of different films which adds a layer of stupidity and means that they'd never pay for themselves.
The studio could buy the cameras themselves (and I'm sure most studios will own several cameras) but then the production will still need to rent from the studio for tax/budget reasons.
And then, on top of that, cameras like the arri 65 aren't available to buy at all, only to rent.

Film school kids are then taught to act like they're always on big sets and they want to use arris because it makes them feel professional. But when you're wasting $5k on a short film, you don't have $15k to spend on an arri or even $5k to spend on a c70.
But you probably have $1k or thereabouts allotted to your camera budget and your dp would rather use an arri anyway.
>tldr; insurance, bureaucracy and tradition
>anyone who's not retarded or isn't being funded by a studio has no reason to rent

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Okay lads share your best 2022 film lists

>>4137112
All Quiet on the Western Front
Munich the Edge of War
Nope
Top Gun: Maverick
Bardo: False Confessions of a Handful of Truths
Puss in Boots
Babylon

Pretty weak year but it had its moments. I was very disappointed in that the majority of acclaimed "indie films" were absolute shit like Aftersun, Corsage and The Northman. And then you have overrated films like Everything, Everywhere which wasn't even bad but the idea that it's the frontrunner for best picture is a joke.

>>4137117
What about Godland and Pacification?
Why you didn't like Aftersun and Northman?

>>4137112
Safe Place
Stars at Noon
Pacifiction
Sick
Copenhagen Cowboy (yes it's a film)
Smoking Causes Coughing
Crimes of the Future
Ambulance (favorite film of the year)

>>4137121
Hi Nic, I didn't know you were shitting /p/ up as well now, was alt /tv/ not enough for you anymore?

>>4137111
>Renting is a relic from when cinema cameras cost $10k on the low-end.
I mean... they kind of still do when they're properly rigged and in the range of minimum specs for netflix etc...

>>4137119
>Why you didn't like Aftersun and Northman?
Aftersun:
>literally nothing happens
>entire film was so obviously projection by the writer/director trying to deal with a childhood memory and felt like masturbation
>stupid strobing club scenes inserted every so often to give the pretence of something interesting happening - they got old really fast
>"n-no it's deep because the dad was depressed!"
The Northman:
>hey remember Gladiator? What about Conan the Barbarian? Hamlet?
>unoriginality would be fine except the fight scenes were all dogshit and the writing was idiotic
>managed to make a $100m budget look like a $5m low-budget arthouse film (in a bad way)
>"son, IF I DIE (winks at the camera) then you have to avenge me okay?" - dies literally the next scene

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>>4137129
im not nic, im the dude who asked about external or internal recorders in the previous thread, but ok b

>>4137150
Oh I thought I had found Refn again. He got caught shilling his own stuff and shitposting HARD a few years ago on cripplechan.

>>4137152
>He got caught shilling his own stuff and shitposting HARD a few years ago on cripplechan
What? Storytime please

>>4137152
i actually met refn back in november during the CC screening lol
he's definitely touched by the tism but he was kind and gay enough to give me the flowers the reception people at the festival gave him. anyways I was zoned out most of the Q&A because I was daydreaming about fucking his daughter

>>4137156
Do you think he posts on 4chan?

>>4137159
i mean he talked about being miserable as fuck avoiding his family at certain points during lockdown so if it was 2020 he might've been lol

>>4137156
>gay enough to give me the flowers the reception people at the festival gave him.
Cute

>Q&A because I was daydreaming about fucking his daughter
She rejected you?

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>>4137166
i didn't make a pass b

>>4137168
with that being said, i would've gotten rejected LMAO.

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>>4137154
He got caught in a spar with a lolcow from Connecticut named Zach who was a massive Emma Watson simp, then fucked up a few times posting pics with EXIF that gave his location away. This lasted for a few months and he had adopted an Emma Roberts simp persona until she got blacked but obviously his fetish didn't die. Some cinema camera near his studio in Copenhagen, go figure. And then a lot of weird "coincidences" in Too Old to Die Young.
>pedo named Zach
>bad guy with a colostomy bag (he also had a spar with another waifufag whose waifu had one)
>main girl literally looks like Emma Roberts
>there's shots in it that replicate shots from Emma Roberts movies
>pic rel was online for a brief period of time, see https://archive.fo/OrDQe

>>4137174
unironically reminds me of palo alto which emma roberts starred in

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>>4137177
More than reminds, I was looking for the pic to post.

>>4137178
kek

>>4137181
He also developed a hateboner for Kubrick because the watsonfag was a huge fan. At one point they made a banner with a shot from The Neon Demon and his face to the side that read "Kubrick was a hack and Tarkovsky is superior" with his face on the side of it, quoting one of his infamous posts. Fun times.

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>>4137182
Found it

>>4137112
i didn't see much, still watching old stuff, but i liked

aftersun
flux gourmet
crimes of the future
fire of love

>>4137168
>>4137170
Anon you should take a shot at least

>>4137172
>Refn
>closet racist
Doubt.jpg
Damian was the most based character in TOTDY and Danny in Copenhagen Cowboy was also pretty based. Jesus was also essentially the main character in TOTDY. In The Neon Demon, Elle's boyfriend was middle eastern. Though maybe this is hollywood definitions of racism where not having a 50% black cast counts as racism.

>>4137218
That's what closet fags would call a "beard". He apparently likes to larp as a jew to get away with sneaking nazi imagery in his movies.

>>4137220
>sneaking nazi imagery in his movies
TOTDY filtered a lot of people on /tv/ because of the whole police scene where they shouted "FASCISM!". I think you're reaching...
>>4137182
>>4137183
He literally used Kubrick's DoP from Eyes Wide Shut for Only God Forgives. Unless you're saying that he only started to dislike Kubrick specifically because of an online argument?

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>>4137226
>TOTDY filtered a lot of people on /tv/ because of the whole police scene where they shouted "FASCISM!". I think you're reaching...
"Drive is the new Mein Kampf": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peKc4tIVEVk
Also what would you call posting William Luther Pierce's version of the scorpion and the frog where the scorpion is explicitly identified as the jew and the gentile is the frog carrying the scorpion on his back? Much like the jewish mobsters in Drive too, really makes you think.

>>4137226
>Unless you're saying that he only started to dislike Kubrick specifically because of an online argument?
That and Friedkin saying he was delusional and that his work wasn't on par with 2001.

Anyone have experience using fd mount lenses adapted to ef? My camera is a super 35 sensor.

>>4137288
>super 35
stop

>>4137292
What is wrong with super35?

>>4137295
Nothing. Ignore him.

>>4137172
There was more than that, he used to make videos bullying the watsonposter and the voice was unmistakeably his. This was 2018, mind you. Deepfaked voices weren't a thing at the time.

>>4137295
>super35
stop using that term>>4137312

>>4137172
sus
https://archived.moe/p/thread/4105905/

>>4137321
>stop using that term
"no"

Should I get a VHS camera next time I see one at a flee market? Are they kino?
I don't really know what to use it for.

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>>4137347
Yes
https://youtu.be/FO6tcy8QVoA
These was shot with a camera of that nature
https://youtu.be/FaTth_OjKVg

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>>4137347
don't do it unless you can get tapes, have a transfer method and the camera fully functions

>>4137333
That thread is mine, lol. And I can't be Refn so you're wrong.

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>>4137218

>>4137381
He looks like a spergy son of Kubrick and Tier.

>>4137583
>And I can't be Refn
Really? Your autism reminds me of him, suspicious.

>>4137769
He is more talented than both of them.

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>>4137381
Why the Zachary Goodwin tho?

best or most intuitive audio recording software?

can anyone give me a quick rundown of protips for making their first video?
programs, techniques, idunno

ive got premiere pro and i want to record a draft audio with microsoft software and then get something better.
all to work off and get some sort of vision of what im talking about, if i can even stand my voice

i have to make some sort of preemptive apology and ask for forgiveness video because of who i am

>>4138166
Try fairlight in DaVinci Resolve because it is free and if you have an Adobe subscription you can also try audition. Other anons here who deal with audio can give you better advice that I can give you.

>>4138166
>i have to make some sort of preemptive apology and ask for forgiveness video because of who i am

just give up, don't even bother

>>4138166
>i have to make some sort of preemptive apology and ask for forgiveness video because of who i am
What the fuck? Did you say something too based at work/school and have to make some movie project out of it?

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>>4138159
KEK
i haven't seen this kubricklarp image before

>>4138166
>i have to make some sort of preemptive apology and ask for forgiveness video because of who i am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26WBT1ZdLdc

>>4138166
why don't you just use an audio recorder and manipulate it in premiere if you're just starting out?

>>4138196
It's a shop retard, he took the Zach Goodwin pic and the Kubrick one

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>>4138159
He is a talented indie film maker. I hope one day i can make pure kino like him.

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>>4138318
Does he post his stuff anywhere besides youtube?

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>>4138159
pic for the next vid general

>>4138318
I haven't been paying any attention, who is this guy and why are we bullying him?

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>>4138334
Pure kino.

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>>4138352
He upset some people and then got scared about something that happened and now autists won't let go even though he apparently left this place.

>>4138358
Just read through the last thread. I realised that I had a mental block on all that e-fagging.
Is Zach the same person as cinefag?

>>4136920

>>4138365
No unless his cinefag persona includes making photographs in stark contrast to the ones he makes as Zach and his writing style changes accordingly as well. I actually know cinefag's IG (and his account on some cinematography forums, I knew him from there before his posts cropped up here).

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>>4138352
>>4138358
>>4138365
He is a talented indie film maker.
https://youtu.be/DmLkNWPLCQU

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I want to make narrative films but am thinking about spending money on photo gear to bring in money. Not sure if smart and practical or running in the wrong direction.

Any frogs know this feel?

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>>4138770
It's a very decent plan.
If I understood you correctly, you want to do commercial photography on the side to eventually finance the films, right?
It'll be slow, but through photography you'll learn a lot about certain aspects of filmmaking like composition and framing. Many of the film people I know started as photographers and that's all they formally are.
Another advantage is that, to get a film properly financed, you'll need some help and people are more likely to trust their money to someone who has some experience in the field, despite how vaguely.
So, in short, it definitely beats working in a grocery store in hopes that the crap-thin paycheck will somehow finance your film ideas. Not to mention you'll probably be too exhausted to focus on it once the shift is done.

>>4138772
I’ve worked professionally before, I’d classify myself as a professional intermediate with high growth potential but what I mean I’m investing my money in a photo camera and photo equipment for the purpose of either wedding or product photography as those are what makes money.

This is potentially a solid revenue stream but it’s an opportunity cost and an actual cost. I could buy video gear. But there’s less opportunity and video cameras are much more expensive.

I need to finish my scripts.

>>4138779
Why don’t you do something like wedding videography or product videography that way you can buy film gear and use that gear to make money? Or make spec ads for some local businesses that need ads and try to sell local businesses on the value of video ads for social media.

>>4138783
Making steady money in video is tough but the things you mentioned are pretty easy. It’s not really practicing anything new, it’s just kind of the same thing for new people.

I’m not trying to discount the suggestions but narrative work and even high end commercial work are big sets, big crews, lots of equipment and so on. I’m limited by access and opportunities. My struggle is the conflict between the dream and reality.

I’d be interested in what other anons have to say about the filmmaking market but it also seems like it’s shrunk to nothing. But I could move to a big city and try to crack commercial work. I dunno. Many of the things I love are dead or dying. Shit sucks man.

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How was she so good?

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>>4138770
>>4138772
Isn't the YouTube pipeline the way to go these days. I know at least there's some Swedish guys who did that. Started making YouTube vids, got successful, moved on to real movies. They have produced two real movies going in cinemas in Sweden at least (I will mention I have actually watched neither of them).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Pictures

Guess there will be lots of competition on YT these days though. But it feels a bit like writing novellas before writing novels.
There's probably not much money in it initially though.

>>4138798
balls

thoughts on color calibrated displays? I'm thinking about getting one for video/photo editing? Something like the Asus ProArt line

>>4138801
david sandberg who did shazam also went through the youtube pipeline. it's weird because most kids born 96-00 have seen one of his youtube videos for sex ed here in sweden lmao

does anyone here edit on avid? how's the workflow?

>>4138853
does anyone here edit on avid? how's the workflow?
Terrible, worst piece of crap I was ever forced to

>>4138801
What is the YouTube pipeline?

If you mean make shorts to make features, okay. I don't understand why YouTubers are a thing because they're just paid shills larping as professionals. I don't know how it translates into real business outside of "Person X has a following of XX,000 people" or something like that.

If I need to stop being an old man, I'm happy to open my mind but these YouTubers will miss focus on their stationary 4K blog videos and somehow expect to get in charge of a real production? Doubt.

I haven't edited 4K video very much, what are your project sizes including intake footage? RAW or compressed? Thx.

>>4139103
It’s not easy to hit focus everytime and honestly you don’t need EVERY shot to be in focus for a video to be amazing. You do need to get with the times, old man.

>>4139174
They just set everything to auto. They have no respect for cinema or the craft. Anyway, yeah you’re right. I gotta figure out how to do that.

>>4137054
>Unless renting is how Hollywood launders the large sums of money that Hollywood gets from investors by renting stuff from a company that they already own.
yes thats pretty much the case, and not just in Hollywood but in all film industries. In my small European country for instance when you get (state) money to make a film you HAVE TO rent everything, you are not allowed to buy anything - the idea being that a) you support the local (and always massively overpriced) rental industry and b) you don't personally gain from it by keeping the camera, regardless of the total price from the rental ending up being way way way higher than the actual cost of the camera. Very little of funding is about cost efficiency, it's all about propping up the industry. There are loopholes usually however - for instance for my film I am 'renting' my camera from myself, but in this case of course you already need to have a camera to begin with (which is why it's good to invest in your own gear)

>>4139251
Couldn’t you use the fees for a project to buy a camera that you don’t already have and then rent the camera to yourself. Enron-style accounting. Or are they rules in your country against doing something like that.

>>4139252
I don't remember exactly now. I guess theoretically you could, but there might be a clash with the timings. You may not get paid at the beginning, or in time to get the gear and then rent it out, as all this spending is written up in the same doc at the same time, iirc
Then again I'm not a producer so idk the specifics, maybe it is possible

>>4139091
>Terrible, worst piece of crap I was ever forced to
how come you had to work on avid?

>>4139290
People want to use avid because cinema fags keep on telling people that avid is awesome. I use resolve because it’s easy to learn and you can use a free version as you are learning how to use it. It will grow with you but it’s easy to pick up if you just want to make short videos for YouTube and it will grow with you if you want to make a feature film with it.

>>4139290
working on a news station

>>4139174
using tape marks isn't rocket science

>>4138853
>most kids born 96-00 have seen one of his youtube videos for sex ed here in sweden
What's that? I'm 95 so might have just missed it.

>>4139103
I'm taking about guys like these.
>>4138853
>>4138801

>>4139405
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0T2mpUb8yo

>>4139531
>the vacuum line
lmao
No, I had never seen that. But since you're a Swede to you might explain something I never got. What the fuck is a "bullfitta" does it simply mean puffy pussy?

>>4139578
pretty much, puffy pussy/fat outer lips

>>4139590
I guessed it might be so, but it confused me because I'm pretty sure we (on 4chan) all agree it's kino. Japan seems to be with us on this too.
Do these people whining want roast or something?

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How to get on his level? I didn't have a stepdad to play baseball with and refer to me as "my wife's son". Is that a requisite to make kino?

Imagine being a murican and not going to AFI

Y'all should suck dicks. When the fuck you're going to make it?

>>4139972
>not USC Cinematic Arts
ngmi

>>4139972
>>4139992
Going to film school won’t make you make it. It will make the schools rich. What will make people make it is to get off your lazy ass get off 4chan and get off gear review sites and get out of your mom’s basement and go outside and actually make a video.

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>>4140009
>I didn't go to film school, I went to films
Oh it shows Quentin

>>4139972
the smartest move by far is to just attend a school that has a film culture closest to your own.

>>4140010
With that opening you don't even need the "a film by".

Anyone know how to get this 360 degree rotating camera thing?
https://youtube.com/shorts/4R7fFww961A?feature=share
Tiktokers use it so it has to he some cheap accessory but I cant find any info.

>>4140009
>>4139992
>>4139972
I got into USC. Its simply not a good vibe and not conducive to making anything good. You are essentially forced to play pretend with your classmates and have people filling all the useless roles of a major production like having a script supervisor, AD, cinematographer, etc etc. you get these rich kids with bloated crews trying to make something that would play better if you recorded it by yourself and an actor with a phone. Its simply not worth the money going to these things. Yes you can come out the other end knowing how to work an Arri Alexa and light a scene, and you can probably get a job making commercials, but if you have any aspirations towards making something meaningful or artistic its not the place to be. The only positive to filmschool is having an immediate network of actors, but you dont even need to be enrolled in a school for that.

>>4140009
How do i make a video????

>>4137230
>https://youtu.be/peKc4tIVEVk
kino

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>>4137230
Refn status confirmed

>>4137230
>William Luther Pierce's version of the scorpion and the frog

>Do you remember the old fable about the scorpion and the frog? The scorpion wants to cross a stream, but he can’t swim. He sees a frog and asks the frog to carry him across on the frog’s back. The frog says, “No, I don’t trust you. I’ve heard about how treacherous scorpions are. I’m afraid that if I let you get on my back you’ll sting me.” The scorpion replies, “Why should I do that? That wouldn’t be in my interest. If I sting you, then we’ll both drown.” So the frog agrees to let the scorpion get on his back and begins swimming across the stream. Halfway across, the scorpion stings the frog. As the frog is dying and beginning to sink, he asks, “Why did you do that? Now we’ll both die.” The scorpion answers, “I couldn’t help myself. It is in my nature to sting.” And it is in the nature of the Jews to deceive and to destroy. That is what they always have done, from the days of ancient Egypt to the present, and it is what they will continue to do as long as they continue to exist as a coherent, self-conscious group.

kek

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Filming an outdoor bar scene soon. Any tips on lighting it. The setup is simple. People sit at the bar and chat up the bartender.
I have a 660 bi color led panel and a 120d cob light.

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>>4140295
Look at the natural light you have and work around it. Can you use it as a highlight or backlight etc

so any of you pieces of shit produce any cine?
yeah, thought so

fags

>>4140468
Ya, I made a film (a feature) but I'm not gonna show you because you were rude

>>4140295
At night? biggest challenge is probably going to be adding depth behind them. easy to show depth in front of them, just splash the 120 across the back wall of the bar and then get some shape on the bartender's face.

if the whole background scene is way too dark or uncontrolled then you can maybe hack your way out of it by moving them to the edge of the bar (so you can get your camera farther back) and shooting towards the customers with the bartender in the foreground. essentially making your subjects the background. plus if its a big ass three shot it'll just cover up most of the ugly.

>>4140295
kek. I see what you did there.

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>>4140295
This is the bar we have to shoot at. There isn’t a
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>>4140526
Put a bright light such as an hmi light outside and shine it on the window.

>>4140526
are you shooting a reality tv dating show, because that's what it looks like

I don’t know how I feel about blowing $$$ on photo gear when it can’t be used on non-sony video cameras. I could make money with it though.

>>4136920
>Blackmagic Cinema
Well yeah, but the low-light capabilities aren't so good.
With something like the S5II or A7IV out, the Blackmagic isn't the ideal choice for video at this pricepoint

>>4141106
meme, the low light capabilities of full frame are only when it reaches equivalent apertures lower size formats can't match, and at that point you get unusable DoF. If you don't want the indie DSLR look from the late 00s where bokeh was abused all the time because who wants to do a production with a proper budget, let's use bokeh instead to cover up for shitty sets and worse lighting, then you should limit yourself to f/2.8 on full frame, f/1.8 on Super 35 and f/1.4 on MFT.

>>4141111
With wider dynamic range you have more playroom to display each level of brightness and there will always be that dark spec of shadow in one of your shot that you don't want noise in.

Please have a look at this:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGhmNPPfkMc

Your post sounds a little cynical sounding.
All we want is a healthy discussion

Anyone here shoot on A7R IV?

I'm trying to wrap my head around how the rolling shutter will look and practical shooting scenarios / workarounds and all that.

I'm looking to get an external monitor (I use a laptop [Legion i5 Pro]) for video editing and color correcting. I want a 27". My native display is 2560x1600.

I was thinking about Dell U2723QE (4k) or BenQ SW270C (1440). I saw a video on YouTube saying a guy who has a Mac was using a lot of GPU to scale his 4k monitor down to 1440p.

Would that be a problem with the Dell monitor I want using my Legion i5 Pro?

Video for reference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpX561_XM20

>>4141211
The guy in the video went with a Asus ProArt 27" 1440, which I thought about, but that's an 8 bit and the Dell is a 10bit for not much more money, and the ProArt has a contrast ratio of 1000:1 compared to the 2000:1 on the Dell.

I just don't want my computer to be hogging resources in the background slowing down Premiere Pro or Davinci.

>>4141106
I just filmed something in low light with my black magic and it was perfectly fine. I haven’t needed to use it but it also has a streamlined process to reliably reduce noise in da vinci

>>4138850
>asking /p/ about gear
>expensive gear at that
>hasn't made anything worthwhile
>tells himself he can't make anything worthwhile if he doesn't have the gear
>gets old
>dies with expensive shit in his apartment
>never made anything

>>4141452
It's not even expensive. It's standard equipment for first worlders who have sex.

See: APPLE.

>>4141453
i apologize, i thought proart was only the oled monitors which go for $4k. I see there are others.

>>4141453
Not expensive by a mile

Datacolor spider = $170
Colorchecker passport = $120
Macbook air = you already own this right? you didn't spend thousands on a stinkpad right? you're an artist, not a nerd, right? linux users aren't creatively valid inviduals.

/p/'s average frivolous lens/camera purchase or bimonthly film budget= $750. When people are regularly discussing buying fuji XT5s that don't really do anything relevant to photography better than XT3s but cost twice as much yeah bud I think you guys should spend more time looking in to whether or not your colors are semi-accurate so you can start getting into something that is relevant to art: publication.

>>4141463
Unless you want to become a professional colorist, there is no need to spend thousands on a display. If you want to become a professional colorist $4 is cheap compared to the $25 Flanders display that you’d need.

>>4141475
It's about being a good photographer and being able to put out things with acceptable accuracy so professional colorists do not have to totally revise everything. Apple's standard displays on consumer laptops (and they're cheap used because trend chasers lol) cover all of sRGB and DCI P3. ARGB and rec 2020 coverage isn't complete but it's doubtful that you'll need that if you aren't in a situation where the monitor is provided for you.

>>4141106
>he doesn't own lights

>>4138850
ProArt is 8 bit

Trying to buy the XH2S

Will my average tier laptop computer run 4k prores files? I hear prores codec will work well on just about anything

Call me a retard but why are color checkers important in the year of our lord 2023 when we have digital color correction.

>set proper white levels
Yeah I know

I also don't understand this in photography especially the fancy 5+ step B&W ones

>>4141560
matching cameras

>>4138853
>Avid
Yeah, im an editor and most of the TV work i do is made in Avid.
Honestly it has Its flaws, but people that just blatantly say its shit have propably never worked on it in the right environment.
Its a tool and you have to know when and what for to use it.
I wouldnt touch it for personal projects or small scale stuff, but there simply Is not any better nle for big projects that require cooperation od multiple professionals.

>>4141552
You can't watch them. You can just easily pull a still frame since each individual frame contains 100% of its own data.
To actually "run"/play them you'll have to generate proxy media in a lighter codec (by cutting bitrate and/or resolution)

I'd say you definitely want 16gb ram at a minimum. 32gb still has some hiccups sometimes.

>>4141560
>especially the fancy 5+ step B&W ones
matching contrast is just as important as matching color

>>4138853
To add to this >>4141628
>Workflow
Based

When you work in Avid, there are usually AEs And technicians that do the "not So Fun" shit for you, but i worked as an ae Aš well, so shoot specific questions if youd like to.
Lets just say, that ingest and data managent is harder to do, but pays off in terms od stability and metadata.

>>4141615
Wouldn't the combination between onboard software and the white balance do that?

>>4141633
I don't even know how to do that (maybe I sued to) but point still stands, if it knows white it knows black and mid gray and thus 25/75.

>>4141631
I crammed in 32gb of RAM into my laptop so sounds like I’ll be ok.

You’re saying I can’t play a prores codec in my timeline?

>>4141648
>You’re saying I can’t play a prores codec in my timeline?
definitely not. they're designed for editing, not playback.
typically the playback is conducted in a lower res .mov or an entirely different container at the same res. resolve has the option to auto-generate proxies for this but it takes awhile and they're still quite large.

>>4141652
Oh ok. Well still sounds like prores will let me work with 4k easier than an h265 counterpart. Thanks!

>>4141635
Does the pay you get doing the non fun stuff in Avid make it worth learning Avid? Or do they pay AEs and Technicians minimum wage?

I filmed a small project where i was in charge of camera and directing. They had a guy that was in charge of sound and assured us he was ok to do it. A few days after the project was completed the sound guy informed us that none of the sound is usable.
The only way to fix this would be adr or an entire reshoot, right?

>>4141668
Well since you've already established that your sound guy is an incompetent fucktard, I'd ask for all the sound files to examine yourself. There's a high chance that the files are actually usable and he's just too retarded to be able to edit them properly.
Failing that, you should have the sound from the camera itself. And, if you were being cautious, you would've had a mic attached to it. The sound won't be as good but it should be usable.
If neither of these options work then yes, you have to adr or reshoot.
This should act as a lesson not just for making sure that the people you work with aren't fucktards, but also a lesson in taking proper precautions. For future shoots, I'd recommend 2 separate external sound recorders (or more if you can afford them). I normally use them on different actors but the actors are often standing close enough that they act as a backup in case of emergency.

>>4141668
>not testing sound
>not hiring the best sound guy
>not recording on camera as backup
ngmi

Newbie trying to decide between a G85 and G7
looking at comparisons the biggest difference seem to be the image stabilization and weather proofing
right now im really just looking to do static stuff so image stabilization isnt a must. But maybe in the the future, and the weather proofing is appealing.

I can afford either. But don't want to spend an extra 200 if I cant find value in it. not sure what to go with.

>>4141777
IBIS is always better than no IBIS daddy warbucks

>>4141777
Trust me when I say get the IBIS

>an extra $200
POOR

What cameras have you shot with /vid/ and what was your favorite(s)?

>>4141777
use your phone my dear anon, but they were both good choices 3 years ago.

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>>4141672
>>4141673
So i was brought on literally last minute and i did have my own shotgun mic on my camera. The audio on it is not super great because we were filming outside and at night. I learned my lesson and i now know i have to sort of vet people myself and act as a jack off all trades on these small projects. I really had faith in him since he came recommended highly by my friend that turned me onto the project.
The soundfag did actually have two separate recording methods in addition to my shotgun mic. He had a lav on our main actor and a zoom hn1. He somehow messed up the audio on both. I’m shocked that he couldn’t get either to record usable audio

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>>4141866
Did he put a deadcat on both mics? If so, then like I said before, I'd really recommend getting ahold of those supposedly unsalvageable files.

>>4141637
have you ever tried matching cameras?

>>4141829
either would certainly be better than my phone
my phone is over 5 years old

>>4141829
Not everyone is a consoomer that fell for the disposable smartphone meme

Dedicated cameras are far more reliable and long lasting than phones

>>4141955
I believe so. How would i go about salvaging the audio?

>>4142221
Take a crash course in sound editing. (Audacity is a free program that can help).
The obvious thing to do is take the sound file and crank up the gain to the max so that you can effectively hear everything and then run basic noise reduction. From there, you have to figure out the rest based on what you hear.

>>4142221
pirate izotope RX

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>>4141777
IBIS is probably the best thing about the whole MFT system, even if you don't feel like you need it right now, you might appreciate it later. If I were you I'd save up a bit more and get a used original GH5. They're getting pretty affordable, use a newer sensor than G85 and G7 with better low light capability and higher megapixel count, and I think have more room to grow into.

>>4143903
I got a gh6 for run and gun filmmaking because of the ibis.

>>4141980
Nope tbqh pls tell I want learn

>have basically no friends
>join local group for people who work in media
>they have a meetup drinks session
>don't go cause social anxiety
kino for this feel?

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>>4145937
> social anxiety prevents me from doing shit
Try some darknet mdma (Molly) and see if that helps you. If you are a writer see if that also helps you get over your writers block and write a script. It worked for me; it might work for you.

Pic related; meds may help you get over you social anxiety

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>>4145937
Eat healthy, find a fasting schedule that works for you, and don't drink alcohol. Exercise your body to exhaustion regularly and get enough sun to keep your circadian clock working properly.

>>4145937
What's the local group? I need to look for those opportunities.

Also stop cooming. It's a crutch and probably only worsens your anxiety.

t. coomer trying to quit

>>4145966
>stop cooming
Definitely this as well.

How good is the bmpcc 6k pro? I am thinking about getting that camera to be an a camera for ky bmpcc 4k. How much better iq would the 6k have? Would getting a second 4k be better or would the 6k blow the 4k out of the water?

>>4146063
4k is a pain the ass, just go straight to 6k pro if you can afford it

Why do video cameras process motion better than mirrorless cameras?

I mean even on the high end stacked sensor ones, there’s weird jutter where it looks very interpolated. Motion blur doesn’t look right. I seldom see people putting these cameras to any practical tests though. It’s all gay whip pans that prove or show nothing besides rolling shutter.

>>4146104
second, I upgraded from a6500 so its an amazing camera but have had to invest in a metabones speedbooster and still aren't quite satisfied with my lens options

>>4145937
The worst is when I bring myself to attend, and I tell everyone that I just want to work in sets so if they need any help, even just holding a boom mic I am down. no one ever gets back even after I see them working on random projects. I just stop trying and just funded a short film by myself and offered to pay the actors and an extra hand
>>4145966
check for facebook groups in you area

>>4146157
Try asking film students if they want free help. If you live near a college town. Film students will usually jump at any free help.

>>4145937
you can try what >>4145952 >>4145953 >>4145966 suggested, if that doesn't work (for me it doesn't for instance), you just have to learn to make do with what you have and make the best thing you can given your means and circumstances. It should be a useful learning experience either way

>>4146156
>I upgraded from a6500
so you downgraded, nice

>>4146358
How did he downgrade? a6500 doesn't even have 10-bit video.
Go back to your containment thread, stillsfag.

>>4146370
Unless you need excellent lowlight because you don’t want to invest in proper cinema lighting, I see no real reason to invest in Sony.

>>4146447
Even then, it offers little gain over a speedboosted setup.

>>4146448
I though sony cameras were great in low light; is that a lie that fanboys tell people

>>4146469
Oh, they are. They beat out pentax for low light stills too. But for video overall, sony isn’t the best. Even for stills it’s been downhill since the A7RIII as they’re focusing too hard on the spray and pray i mean sports and wildlife market

>>4146469
No. Sony is still lowlight king. Only panafags dispute this.
But lowlight is mostly just a crutch for retards who can't light their scenes properly (which isn't even hard or expensive once you realise that all the supposed dogma is based on shitty sensors from 20 years ago).
As long as your camera can shoot in iso 1600 with a relatively clean image, and 6400 is usable, you don't need anything higher. Night time outdoors you can shoot at around iso1600 f/2.8 (if memory serves me right) and you should get a decent image as long as you're shooting somewhere with street lights. Up it to f/2 or iso3200 and you're safe. Higher than that and you'll start overexposing.
But if you shoot iso12800 to make a super dark scene visible, you haven't lit anything so your subject will look flat and shitty regardless of how noisy your image is.

>>4146477
What if you don’t want to light your scene at all, or light it improperly?

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>>4146479
You'll get results that show that.
The full frame low light advantage is due to using larger equivalent apertures, enjoy your stuff looking like Army of the Dead.

>>4146063
I like it a lot. The image quality is excellent and it’s very intuitive to use. The people that work with me seem to like it and be impressed with it as well. You can also get a regular 6k or 6kg2 as well.

>>4146063
Also the 4k and 6k have different crop factors when shooting in 4k i believe. There are noticeable differences between both cameras when shooting in the same resolutions with the 6k and 4k

>>4146063
go 6k if you want EF and EF-S lenses natively

>>4146479
If you shoot faces that are unexposed, they'll look bad unless they're supposed to be in the shadows.
That applies to everything.
Lighting isn't hard though. You don't need massive expensive things. Just get a few small led boxes for like 20 bucks and shine them at the right areas. It won't be perfect but it will quickly teach you how to make your images look better,

I invested in the Meike MFT Cine Lens set to practice my film making because I wasn’t able to find a set of primes that offer the same quality for less than 50k dollars. I wanted a set I could play with whenever I felt like it, without having to rent something. If I get a gig that needs primes on a larger sensor camera, the client will need to pay for the lenses he wants me to use. I am now looking for a set of cinema primes to get and I am thinking of getting the Fujinon mft zooms. Eventually I want to invest in the DZOFilm macro cine lenses when I can afford those lenses because using macro shots in my films will give me a unique look that most other film makers don’t have.

>>4146695
Oh shit, tell me this is a fucking troll post pls?
How much did you spend?

>>4146703
The set cost me about $2,000 I got the mft Cine primes used on eBay. MFT lenes. If I wanted an equivalent set of lenses for PL or EF mount it would cost 50,000 to 60,000 or more. If I need PL or EF mount lenses I will rent. Meike lenes are a great price for an Indy filmmaker and they have a better build quality that rokinon lenses.

>>4146703
This is the set of lenses that I got:

https://meikeglobal.com/collections/mini-cine-lens-set/products/meike-t2-2-series-8-cine-lens-kit-for-mft-8mm-12mm-16mm-25mm-35mm-50mm-65mm-85mm-9-lens-cine-lens-case-fast-delivery?variant=42897504927972

It costs about as much as 2 L-series EF photo lenses for a Canon camera.

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>>4146695
How do you intend to use macro shots? Scorcese is a filmmaker that I think about when I think macro and extreme close ups

>>4146732
I like macro photography. So I thought macro video would be cool. I would shoot mostly extreme closeups of electric gear and computer stuff and if I did music videos I would shoot macro images of the instruments being played and stuff like that.

>>4146479
if you want it to look bland and lazy, that's easy. making things look good or really shitty both require effort beyond relying on tech to save you

>>4146479
Expect to spend a lot to get a very fast lens for sub par results. Unless their is a reason besides laziness that you can’t light the scene, learn how to properly light you scene.

Is the BMPCC 4K still the best deal for a $1500 budget?

>>4146744
Yes. But be prepared for a bunch of seething replies from panafags telling you no.

>>4146747
I have both a bmpcc 4k and a gh6 but I haven’t used the gh6 enough yet so I can’t give a fair comparison yet. If you want ibis without a gimbal the gh6 is good but I don’t know how good the iq of the gh6 is yet.

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check out my reel /p/

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>>4146744
Fuck no you need to get a panasonic you mongrel!

>>4146782
checked out your reel /p/

What time did you shoot the golden field like an hour before sunset I’m guessing I need to shoot that again with a cute girl ideally a cute girl with a perky ass in a dress

>>4146782
Nice reel

Can you adapt out-of-copyright material just like that or do you still need some special permission or something?

>>4148265
if its in the public domain it's in the public domain. keep in mind that you can't use others peoples adaptations. so winnie the pooh went in the public domain and thats why that winnie the poo horror movie was recently but the imagery of winnie the pooh with a red shirt belongs to disney because that is their original interpretation, in the original illustration winnie the pooh didn't wore a red shirt I believe.

so in this horror movie they have him wear a red flannel shirt but if he was to wear a red shirt with no pants they would have to deal with legal stuff. another example is music, a song like House of the Rising Sun maybe in the public domain but the recording of someone playing the song isn't so you can't just play The Animals version in your movie and need to have an artist record it or get the rights of that recording

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>>4148271
so this is the original winnie the pooh and you can now legally make a porno with this if you want and Disney can't do shit

>>4148274
To be fair, you could actually already do that under parody law.
But you can now make a serious, gritty adaptation with blackjack and tits without being sued (theoretically, people can sue you for anything and you should probably talk to a lawyer before doing something that might piss off disney)

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>>4148274
however if you were to make a prono with winnie wearing nothing but a red t shirt disney could come after your ass but a red flannel shirt and blue overalls is different enough that you aren't infringing on their copyright

>>4148279
anon just make the Winnie the pooh porno if you want already

>>4148287
the copyright laws allow me to use winnie the pooh but there are other laws stopping me from making my vision

>>4148293
i blame the jews.

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>work my ass off making a film that's so weird and dense it struggles to find screenings and doesn't win any awards
>audiences are consistently engaged as hell and it's always the centerpiece of discussion anywhere it goes
>work basically for hire, as a favor to a friend, on a bad script with a higher budget than I'm used to
>film wins piles of awards solely for being exceptionally polished, even though nobody seems all that interested in it
Stop caring. It's all bullshit. Just make what you want to make.

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>>4148647
Did you ever stop to wonder why?
Theater and by extension Movies as a medium were created to keep the dumb and the poor people from rioting. It's a medium of passive consumption and complacency, so it shouldn't be shocking and surprising that creating a dense, complex structure doesn't win awards. You're fighting against the very structure of the medium and it doesn't appeal to the people who want to watch movies.

>>4148647
As soon as I started watching the films that get a lot of festival attention I realised this and it basically killed any interest I had in making short films. I still like shorts but festival recognition is such a bullshit metric (I say as someone who's had a fair number of laurels).
>>4148655
The indie revolution is coming. All the disassociated short filmmakers doing interesting things and being ignored by the retarded committees that want low budget hollywood comedies will rise up and make feature films and ruin hollywood.
Budget decreases have already meant that you can make a feature (that looks good) for pathetically cheap compared to 20 years ago. AI will only accelerate it

>>4148697
>The indie revolution is coming
True the whole of creative output is due to go through a radical correction back towards stuff that is meaningful

>and make feature films and ruin hollywood
You realize if those indie filmmakers replace hollywood, they are going to end up making the same shit hollywood makes. In order for movies to sustainably increase in quality the market for movies has to collapse back into a form of being by/for enthusiasts like yourself and it won't be profitable, it will be passion projects.

>>4148700
>You realize if those indie filmmakers replace hollywood, they are going to end up making the same shit hollywood makes
No, unlike new hollywood, this new generation won't have the same opportunity since they'll reform the market through sheer willpower instead of being given power. That will change the dynamic such that it means that that power won't be able to be held onto, and so the new filmmakers will be replaced in an instance when they become complacent.
AI will exacerbate this by making it quicker and faster to make films, allowing for massive oversaturation on a scale comparable to fine art, meaning that formulaic shit relying on grand set pieces will be boring and uninteresting (due to how easy it will be to make and how every Tom, Dick and Harry can shit it out) and the actual interesting films will be ones with original ideas that truly innovate.

>>4148709
no that anon is right, indie will just make the same shit as hollywood cause the majority of people like hollywood movies. there have and will always be us weirdos making weird indie shit but the no amount of democratization will change the fact that the majority of people just want to watch romcoms and action movies with the same story beats. do you think the masses that enjoy tiktok, facebook, instagram, youtube are all gonna have a switch turned in their heads and will enjoy experimental indie films and not just what ever the top influencers tweet recently

>>4148720
At the moment, to see something that's actually technologically impressive with good scale and polish is to watch hollywood shit. This is why films from other countries don't do as well at the box office.
Shit on Ant-Man all you want, but it looks like fucking 2001:ASO compared to Russian capeshit or Bollywood.
AI will create a level playing field where a random kid with a half decent computer will be able to make something comparable to big budget blockbusters for no money. When this happens, they'll lose their draw and will no longer stand out.
When everyone can shit out a film that has vfx as good as the latest capeshit for no money, why would anyone watch hollywood shit? Don't get me wrong, the audience who watch films has been shrinking and will continue to shrink. But what will be left is people who watch original and avant garde films since current day capeshit will be the same quality as random tiktok shitposts in 20 years time.

>>4148723
Capeshit sells because the masses want to consume stuff that doesn't make them think too much yet lets them think they're getting something. It's stupid entertainment for people who don't know any better. Infantile lowbrow entertainment for conditioned sheeple.

>>4148723
I think your assumptions about why people watch movies are way off. I don't think they go to be wowed by special effects. They go because it turns their brain off and pumps them with dopamine. It's not because it's novel or else they wouldn't go watch what amounts to the same movie over and over again 8 times a year for the last 2 decades. Look at music or video games for example. They already have reached the level of low bar to entry that you're talking about and big budget, mainstream stuff is worse than it's ever been. Accessibility to high quality creative tools does not fix the problem. The problem is that the people consuming the content are the lowest common denominator in terms of sophistication of the media they don't like or care about movies. They just want to shut their brain off and will simply move on to the thing that does it best.

>>4148732
>>4148734
It's not just vfx, it's the polish as well. You watch a capeshit film, you know you're getting a light-hearted film that doesn't look like it's cheap made-for-tv crap, that has explosions and has laughs.
But neither of you are considering what will happen when a teenager can make a film in his bedroom that does all of that too. Hollywood only keeps its monopoly because no one else can do the same because no one else has enough money.
There are so many films from other countries that are formulaic shit and that hit all the same notes but people don't watch them in the same numbers because they look cheap in comparison. When hollywood can no longer distinguish itself on this factor, they lose their edge.

And since cinema audiences are declining away, the decline will keep happening since they'll be able to get these cinema thrills from tiktok clips and the like, and they won't need to sit down for 2+ hours on those platforms. So the only people left watching cinema will be people who expect something better than a 2 hour version of a tiktok video (which is what current capeshit effectively is compared to future tiktoks)

>>4148757
>it's the polish as well
Explain every horror movie made since 2010 then.

>>4148757
>But neither of you are considering what will happen when a teenager can make a film in his bedroom that does all of that too.
It won't happen. Capeshit is optimized via the use of test audiences and a lot of other stuff.

>>4148764
Fuck I messed my trip

>>4148760
Horror "fans" are toxic as fuck. The opinions of anyone who identifies as a horror fan should be disregarded in its entirety.
But horror isn't a genre comparable to blockbusters. There's an argument to be made that horror is the last genre that actually still innovates since its aim isn't entertainment for the sake of entertainment.
>>4148764
>It won't happen. Capeshit is optimized via the use of test audiences and a lot of other stuff.
Considering that they tried this same focus testing but have been completely unable to create a twitch streamer even close to as successful as xqc or a youtuber anywhere near Mr Beast, I'm going to say you're woefully naive.
Focus-testing is inherently flawed as it relies on audiences actually knowing what they want, not contradicting their wants, and corporations correctly interpreting those wants and being able to give that to audiences.

>>4148775
>that horror is the last genre that actually still innovates
You pushed the bait too far this time, bucko

You're forgetting marketing. Much if not most of Hollywood's draw and success is because of the massive amounts of money poured into marketing. It is also the reason for why people are retarded regarding cinema and aren't interested in anything but the latest blockbuster. Pure conditioning. The Hollywood marketing machine must be dismantled and people's perceptions of what cinema is must be reset. Until that happens, nothing will change.

>>4148789
You really typed this all out. Cringe dude.
Does anyone know any youtube channels that teach color grading basics in davinci? I want to work hard to achieve that moody blade runner aesthetic for my videos.

Now that the dust has settled:

Final Cut, Davinci, or Premiere Pro?

>>4148848
It's true though

>>4149017
Modern society is basically just a product of endless marketing. It accounts for up to 90% of the cost of some products even. I railed so hard against it here a few years ago that I got banned several times.

Sup /p/. I'll keep it short.

Is the Go pro hero 11 a good choice for somebody looking to begin shooting some amateur porn?

>>4149054
dude, if you know what you're doing pornwise, a fucking security camera could make you a fortune

>>4149065
or cost you a fortune, if it's not yours...

>>4149066
lol yeah, but it's incredible how porn can almost never fail (as a whole, "actors" usually wind up junkies and ashamed for life)
even if you find weird niche like fingernail porn, people are willing to pay for that

>>4149065
Fair point. That's somewhat why I want to begin doing this. While horny dudes will jerk off to shit that's so pixellated they may as well be jacking it to Minecraft porn, I just want a camera that's going to perform well for this type of thing while not costing me an arm and a leg.

>>4148720
I love Audition because it starts off as a shitty hallmark romcom and then turns into a nasty snuff film and it is a great film to troll roasties and normies with.

>>4148848
Darren Mostyn and Cullen Kelly are two great YouTubers that teach color grading if you want to be a brain damaged hack who copies others and doesn’t think creatively Quzi is your man on YouTube.

>>4149071
Tards will jack off to anything animals plushies cartoon characters; rule 34 you can make anything porn and a horny regard will pay you for it.

>>4140182
>The only positive to filmschool is having an immediate network of actors, but you dont even need to be enrolled in a school for that.
Two decent things I got from filmschool:
- learning to light a set (doesn't seem hard now since you can preview everything but it was hard when it was film and you couldn't)
- learning that being AC sucks - holy shit what a bunch of stress knowing that if you fuck up loading or unloading the film somehow you ruin a whole day's worth of shooting.

Ironically, my best film school stuff was super8. It cost so much less, you could take more risks and shoot more. 16mm color negative and workprint was expensive.

If it were my film school today, I'd make you shoot AND edit on your phone with an external audio recorder until you demonstrated you could tell a story with just that. No dicking around with "I got the shot" bullshit over copying a 'look' or doing shit in post.

>>4149103
With the bmpcc 4k you no longer need film.

>>4149122
>with a bmpcc, you can film anywhere you want

>>4149131
>The cool wind felt good against his bare chest.

>>4149131
I meant the bmpcc cameras save you money because you no longer need to go out and buy film stock and pay to develop film to make something

>>4149210
you can do that with a 5D II

>>4149131
Could i film inside a government building with it???

>>4149233
The question's not "can you?", the question is who's gonna stop you?

>>4149233
You need a spy camera to film there.

>>4149054
Get two so you have an a cam and b cam. Also get a newer 660 rgb

storyfags get the rope

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Ive always had a fascination with BW photography, but this video by ye https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yVdBlGSgRw has some really interesting BW 'colouring' that makes it almost look like cgi. Any idea how they achieved the effect? obviously part of it is flash/strobe lights

ok, so I kinda seeing into getting a video camara to cover events and such, I spend a little more than a year on a small studio making the video editing but helped with the actual recording just a few times, is the Canon XA60 and its line of like the only good ones for this kind of jobs? is hard to find stuff with shit like XLR ports or good quality at lower prices

i'm not sure if this would be the correct thread, but
I need to capture Video8 tapes in my pc, it is any /p/ approved method?

I'm thinking of getting a lumix S5II, shooting open gate with an anamorphic lens. does this make sense at all, or would it be redundant to have both open gate framing with anamorphic?

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Hello /p/ I am once again returning to share with you all my newest video. I hope you guys like it, you guys seemed to like the reel.

https://youtu.be/T9w7lhvvzPs

>>4150170
Open gate just means you're getting more vertical resolution (which is handy for cropping, weird aspect ratios and vertical videos for social media).
Anamorphic is a meme. You do you, but open gate has the same pros for anamorphic that it has for normal video.

>>4150490
ah damn, I was expecting Zachary Goodwin

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the rode wireless go systems don't actually have a microphone, right? like i need a mic to hook into the rode transmitter, and a 3.5mm cable coming out of the rode receiver into my field recorder?

>>4150729
It does in fact have an in-built mic. Not sure about the sound quality on Go II, but I did once work with sound recorded on the original Go and can definitely say that didn't like the sound of it too much. It sounded overly compressed and heavy in the low frequencies. imo simple lav mics produce more pleasant sound.

>>4149921
It's CGI, Kanye has been dead for 5 years now

>be me
>getting newer computer that can actually handle 4k video editing
the struggle is almost over bros

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I'm video newfriend and I need some advice on how to best spend my money
>budget
€800 tops
>current gear
5d3, 6d, a number of L lenses, few tripods, two umbrellas, three octaboxes, two small fluorescent lights, a Pixel 4a, a modern and decent computer with three 1280x1024 Eizo Flexscan displays
>use case
I want to record videos of myself and others playing music and doing gear demos and upload them on youtube for visibility and to have some motivation to keep learning new and more difficult parts
one of such videos I uploaded blew up, got about 200k views and now I'd like to improve the video quality of my content
the rig I usually use is a single 5d3 with a 16-35 f/2.8L which stays put on a tripod all the time and I only ever use manual focus
the issue I have with this is that the internal video recorded by the 5d3 is low quality, not very sharp and not at all flexible, so no matter how much I try to make it look a tad better in post I end up with lots of noise, banding and washed out colors if I try doing anything more than veeery light grading, here's an example - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLNyGROKSvg
I tried recording with my phone using OpenCamera, the files produced were 4K h265 4:2:0 at an unknown bitrate with a log picture profile which turned out to be softer, more noisy and less flexible to edit than the ones shot with the 5d3, here's an example - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7JOEy96p2g

the only option I've been considering is a second hand GH5 to use with my Canon lenses adapter using a chink speedbooster because I like wide angles, total expenses around €600
a PCC4K seems overkill because of its much higher price, around €1000 for a second hand body in good conditions, and because I'm under the impression that many of its features would be useless to me...
the original PCC I can find for about the same money as a GH5, though I have no idea why I would choose that over a more popular camera that can record 4k

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>>415181

You would only care about the original pocket if you wanted to do extreme color grading or vfx and you needed lossless raw so you could push your image to an extreme amount in post and not get any noise. If you don’t know why you want raw, you probably don’t need raw.

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>>4151817
I also found two second hand Blackmagic Production Camera 4k for around €600, which seem like it would do the trick seeing that I wouldn't move it from its tripod, it has a larger than mft sensor and an output format as high quality as I could desire
any reason not to go for one of these in my situation?
the only ones I can think of is it wouldn't be as easily manageable as a PCC or a GH5 and it would be harder to re-sell
>>4151827
thanks for the input, though even after discarding that option I'm really at loss as to what the best option would be seeing how much of a cheap fuck I am

I have a VX2100 that rarely gets any use, but works perfectly. I'd like to digitize the mini DV's I have but don't want to fuck up the playheads by playing back hours of footage when capturing.
Any suggestions on my options?
>sell it for a few hundred, replace with cheaper camcorder (considering how little I use it)
>use it till playheads break, who gives a fuck
>pay local shop $25/tape to digitize
>(insert capture option that isn't $200+)

I will using it mostly just for fun. Random home movies, maybe some promo or music video projects with friends. It's a great camera and I'd like to get back into using it.

>>4151832
The production camera makes up for being harder to use by having a global shutter but it has less dynamic range then the pocket camera or the 2.5k version called the bmcc

>>4138798
Genetics.

buying a 5d mk2 with 150k shutter count
does shutter count # even matter when shooting video?

>>4152190
yes because it gives you the best estimate of how much the camera was used, and a high count together with evident signs of use mean the camera was likely used and abused in a professional setting, which means it's not going to be as reliable as one who wasn't
but also no because you don't care much about shutter issues if you're only ever going to shoot video
up to you to decide how important it is to buy the most reliable 5d2 vs getting a good deal on a 5d2 who's probably going to be fine anyway

>>4152190
>5d mk2
>shooting video
lol, what do you think to get out of it? iphone trumps it.

>>4152207
MLV probs

>>4152230
>having to spend €60 for a single 64GB CF card that's fast enough to record raw continuously
might as well get a gh4 or gh5

>>4152243
Better yet get a BMCC 2.5k (better camera to get if you value iq) or BMPC 4k and buy some 2.5” ssd drives from a local computer store and get hours of record time in lossless raw. This only works if you plan on using a tripod (sticks) and a manual focus lens but the iq you’d get from these cameras is as boss af.

>>4152207
well, I want to be able to use my film lenses to shoot video at the lowest price possible. 5dmk2 is the answer for that.
i'm poor and I just want to get started, I've tried shooting with my iphone and I can't achieve the look I want thanks to the retarded depth of field.

ok nvm found out that the GH4 is the same price as a 5DMK2
is it worth springing for the GH4?

>>4152279
ok so the GH4 has support for high FPS which is great. the thing I don't like however is that due to 4/3 the subject isolation / bokeh is pretty shit.

>>4152279
the sensor is 1/4 as big, to use your lenses the way you do it now you'll need a focal reducer that you need to add to the price. Ideally a metabones speedbooster as the viltrox and other Chinese ones give you low contrast. Do you have EF lenses?

>>4152284
hmm yeah the more I read into 4/3 the less I like it. It's mostly my OM system lenses I wanted to adapt.
the shooting I want to do will be very basic, very static shots, no tracking so I don't really need continuous AF.

>>4152282
Eh? You'll be getting more dof on all your lenses because of crop factor.

>>4152298
right but if you wanted to shoot at the equivalent of 50mm on m4/3 you wouldn't get the same look with the 25mm lens or whatever.

>>4152302
So? If you want more dof with your poorfag budget, you go mft or apsc. FF is hardly feasible, especially some really outdated dslr.

>>4152315
why is a 5DM2 not feasible? Having to invest in M4/3 lenses ups the cost in addition to the body, as does the speedbooster. from what I've seen, RAW footage looks just as good as Lumix 4k.
what am I missing?
thanks

>>4149921
Can you explain what you mean? It's a neat video, but I'm nit sure what you're talking about.

>>4152320
>from what I've seen, RAW footage looks just as good as Lumix 4k
wait until you figure how long you can record in 4k, lol.

>>4152290
Adapting OM lenses to EF is pretty effortless so yeah the Canon would work.
>>4152298
If you go for the same framing yes.
>>4152315
Not really, the poorfag's choice is FF.
>>4152320
The speedbooster is to avoid having to buy MFT lenses, you use full frame lenses instead and get the same benefits as on full frame pretty much.
You cannot shoot 4k on the 5D2.
>>4149921
They're not using strobes/flashes, they're blasting continuous hard light on the scene. Back in the day it was done with bare tungsten fixtures, nowadays you have hard LED panels.

>>4152264
You can get an app for your phone that fakes a shallow dof if you have a newer phone.

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>>4152320
I spoke too soon, you don't get the same benefits but you get close. It's like shooting something slightly bigger than APS-H if you use the XL speedbooster. Actually better than full frame if you ask me, you can open up the lens more before your bokeh becomes too much.

>>4152357
Or better yet, he can get a DoF adapter for the phone but who wants to operate that silly contraption.

>>4152320
>one minute recording limit
>piss poor battery life
>no evf
>low res back screen
>zero control over manual focusing
>old as fuck, means it'll break in an hour

>>4152356
dslr's were used for filming twenty years ago, grandpa

>>4152290
The only benefit that you get from the mft system is that you can get real metal cinema lenses for your camera that cost less than stills lenses and have a great build quality. Meike has great cinema primes for mft cameras for under $400 a lens; that is a bargain when you see how much a cinema lens with an EF mount that isn’t a pile of dog-shit costs.

>>4152361
DSLRs couldn't do video twenty years ago you pretentious faggot. First HDSLR was the Nikon D90 in 2008 closely followed by the game-changing 5D2 that allowed full HD.
>>4152362
That only matters if you use it as part of a follow focus rig, some of those saturday night special "cinema" lenses even have focus breathing and the coatings suck dick. No real advantage over EF.

>>4152361
Also with a 128GB ExtremePRO card you can record RAW video up to 45 minutes in one go with the 5D2. Battery life is pretty great, screen resolution is fine, you have absolute control over manual focusing and can even use focusing aids (focus peaking, sharper edges, split image). The real reason to avoid it is the ugly banding noise if you push it too much, very noticeable pattern.

>>4152362
Nonsense. IQ is far better than many FF. You need to go far up the pecking order to get something as good as GH5. R3, R1 will thrump it, but not much else will.

>>4152366
>Also with a 128GB ExtremePRO card you can record RAW video up to 45 minutes in one go with the 5D2
lol, why lie?

>>4152369
>>4152362
Full frame "hybrids" are very stills oriented, the video is so a wedding fag can plop his backup camera on a tripod and point it at the altar. Hence all the AF features like face registration, but the lag in adding stuff real cinematographers want.

This will always be the case because very few people doing video outside of hollywood even want full frame and medium format. Just shoot video on crop sensors. No one will notice or care about your 4 inch difference in DOF or 2 stop noise increase since your scene should be well lit anyways and log gammas should help the DR stay acceptable.

>>4152373
Actually, DR will be a lot better on mft, compared to 6d, 5d, or any sonys up to the ones that do 10 bit video.

>>4152370
Not finding the source right now but it was tested and it could go up to that long. Naturally to shoot like that you'd use a dummy battery and AC adapter.

>>4152378
It probably will, the 5D2's DR isn't its strong suit. You can record up to 14-bit RAW but for a short time, a few seconds. 12-bit is more manageable and 10-bit is fine, but the sensor itself sucks dicks.

>>4152384
>Not finding the source right now but it was tested and it could go up to that long.
Yeah, because you made it all up. 5d cpu will melt itself after several minutes of raw, not to mention that 128gb will never carry 45minutes in the first place, unless you're talking about 640x320, lol.

>>4152389
10 bit HD RAW is 33 GB for 10 minutes

>>4152389
>>4152398
I mean full HD RAW my bad

>>4152398
>hd raw
Yeah, that's what's meant with 640x320. Learn to sarcasm.

>>4152378
Bitrate to bitrate full frame can have more DR, but do you really want to spend that money

Big film/sensors are for stills. And imax.