>>4121396
Unimaginative OP

what are the best compacts that have a focal length around 40mm (FF equiv)? i know there is the ricoh GR one (the newest one i think). unironically wouldnt mind micro 4/3 because i love having tons in focus, i just dont want some bulky shit and huge lens.
i have a fuji x-s10 and x-e2 that i am going to sell because i dont like evfs and the fuji 27mm pancake never appealed to me idk why

>>4121424

The Panasonic 20mm prime (so 40mm equiv) is basically a pancake and optically quite good, though its focusing motor is rough for continuous/video or hunting in ultra low light (but I just manual focus by default with back button single AF anyways). The slightly nicer but still old v2 one would spend a lot of time married to my GX85 and the package has decent handling and is pretty compact though not quite pants-pocketable.

Probably the GRiiix is a no brainer in that space though if you prioritize size and don't need an EVF. Been heavily tempted to try one myself since 40mm is probably my "default" focal length for casual shooting, but I get noided about the prospect of sensor dust with the design.

>Sigma 60-600mm FE lens retail price is 297,000 yen (around $2,200)
This lens will be dead on arrival.

People will just be buying the native Sony 200-600mm instead and enjoy the shorter zoomfactor (better image quality)

That rumored FE 20-70 F4.0 G could be the perfect travel lens for me, but if the rumored price is right, I'd rather go with the 24-105 G instead and maybe grab a 20mm F1.8 G.

>>4121424
Well there's always Leica.....

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>>4121424
>the fuji 27mm pancake never appealed to me idk why
this is just a silly take. the Fuji 27mm pancake is exactly what you want. combine it with an X-E series camera and you've got a really compact setup.

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I want to buy an EDC camera - the typical walkaround and trip snapshits; 99% stills and in that I will aim at jpegs, if I'd like to get more serious or use specialized lenses, I have trusty D750. I was kind of set for Ricoch GR IIIx, when saw used (~40k frames) Fuji X100F Black Noir for similar price. Image quality should be similar between these two so the choice will come down to the mobility.
Can anyone tell me, in real-world usage, how pocketable the X100F is? Do I need to bring a bag for it, or is it possible to carry it comfortably in jacket pocket or fanny bag? Does the viewfinder is big enough to use while wearing glasses?
Thanks!

Thoughts about peak design tripod? What's the differenc between the aluminum and the fiber the carbon fiber one because the difference is from about like $300 so, is it only the weight? Is it that much?

>>4121508
Sorry I made this post with the voice recorder so it came bit bad but its a cool feature

>>4121508
when it is cold your hand won't freeze to the carbon legs. also weight

>>4121508
Weight can be a big factor for full-size tripods, meaning it will decide if you will take the tripod with you or not. If you are set for the PD tripod and have the budget, you can't go wrong with carbon, although the last legs section look flimsy - maybe just don't use it in high wind. I still prefer even smaller models, they get the job done 95% of time for me and here I can recommend Leofoto LS-223c. If, however, you are on the budget and aluminum is your choice, you can use electrical cloth tape to mitigate the effects in the cold. I use it on a tabletop aluminum tripod, works great.

>>4121612
A small correction for my shortcut: by saying "maybe just don't use it' I meant the last sections. Sorry.

What's better:
Canon EOS M (1st gen, 2012 mirrorless)
or
Sony Xperia 1 IV (2022 flagship phone)

The phone actually has a variable lens (look it up), 4k/120fps video, etc.
Or is it never gonna beat the bigger sensor size of a 'proper' camera?

>>4121710
Lens only give you better color
Sensor is where all the light congregate and become a picture

>>4121711
>Lens only give you better color
And sharpness, and depth of field, and lots of other things.

>>4121715
Yep, but all those will congregate in the sensor. So small sensor is still not enough. This is why the computer inside will smoothen everything. Sure it will look good on the phone and average monitor. But there's a reason professional photographer still use larger sensor cameras.

>>4121722
You're wrong. What I mean is the lens controls nearly everything in terms of image quality, unlik what you claimed.
In this case the lens is too small to do any good, regardless of sensor size.

>>4121727
>lens controls nearly everything in terms of image quality
That's the old reason when photography still using film. Even Velvia pics will look bad if you use shitty lens.
Now sensors have different techs. For example Foveon (sensor exclusive for Sigma cameras) have three sensors, each capturing one specific color. Or How Fuji have their patented tech on their sensor.

>>4121758
>For example Foveon
That's just 1 step forward when the digital sensor was 3 steps backwards.
Whenever you use this argument it becomes a dishonest argument.

>Or How Fuji have their patented tech
*better marketing shills.

Nothing you have said is overall correct. You are simply mistaken and mislead.

>>4121760
So you claim that all camera brand makers are liars?

>>4121762
No, I'm saying you're full of bullshit, either that or you were too retarded to understand the early digital sensors were steps backwards.

Lens is the first thing in the pipeline. It is the thing that controls the image quality.

>>4121758
Foveon has three layers. It's not a beam splitter with 3 sensors. Those are reserved for large cinema/broadcast cameras. The end result is pretty bad honestly, worse than film for low light.

>>4121482
i already have a leica
>>4121494
the problem is i dont like evfs. i have an x-e2 but its the same size as my x-s10 and it just feels like shit idk.
maybe i should get an x-pro?
>>4121449
seems like there is no panasonic lumix bodies that are quite compact and/or without a grip

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>>4121769
I've never owned an X-Pro but I had an opportunity to check out the X-Pro3 on Monday. It was extremely comfy.

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>>4121512
>>4121612
>The aluminum alloy weighs to be about 3.44 pounds/1.56kg.
>The carbon fiber weighs about 2.81 pounds/1.29 kg.
I mean, uhh, is that really supposed to be a big deal? It's like $300 for a 300gr difference.

Didn't know that cold was a big deal on aluminum tripods (It's my first one) so thanks for the tape trick

>>4121809
Peak design is a meme company that scams the fuck out of people by selling small chinese made trinkets for absurd sums of money. Literally anything more expensive than $50 will be as good. Note, the tripod head is more important than the tripod.

>>4121810
Idk, I'm watching this review comparing it to a Manfrotto 055 and they don't seem like a meme man. I mostly got interested on it because a photographer I follow uses it, and I like his pics a ton, I can see the benefit of it being so small. but I probably won't pay for the carbon version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOBYKnNsQ1Q

>24-70 f2.8 is favorite lens
>always HUGE
i fucking hate optics

>>4121816
When you actually use them daily instead of poking the legs it's a pretty big meme.

>>4121829
have you used it? where did you find it fell short?

>>4121840
It's a tripod, a tripod is a tripod, if it does not fall over I'm satisfied. It falls short in being a tripod that costs as much as a lens.

>>4121859
so you haven't actually used it and the problem is that is expensive. I think I'll try the aluminum one

>>4121869
I have borrowed one, and it was no more impressive than a $100 generic tripod off amazon.

Question: Which digital Leica cameras that have sensor corrosion problem?

>>4121885
Anything based off the M9 sensor iirc

>>4121893
I see, so from Leica M (Type 240) and up the sensors are safe right?

now lets say hypothetically i dont really love sony but their image quality is decent enough

would it be a poor choice to buy an a6000 for $200 and a meike 35 1.4 (or other cheap lens off amazon because i have amazon gift cards i haven't used) ?

>>4122161
It's not going to be unusable but not too much fun either.
There aren't really better options unless you are willing to spend more

Go for ttartisan instead, they have clicked apertures

Just bought "like new" A6000 w/ kit lens for $350
Good deal?

>>4122161
>>4122196
I'm sorry

>>4122203
stfuuuu

>>4122196
Getting a good quality lens is more important.
For example the Tamron 17-70
Or the Sigma 18-50

Newfags always fail at getting good lenses and winder why their results are shit.

>>4122169
>TTArtisan
I a bit out of loop but can someone explain to me what the hell is TTArtisan is all about?

>>4122161
me
>>4122169
thank you, the ttartisan lenses look decent
>>4122196
not me

Okay so, the $200 deal may or may not be a bot actually but regardless of that, would it be a better idea to just get a decent lens for EM10 original? I know it's still gonna be worse in low light but considering i already have the camera and could probably get a semi alright lens im wondering. Although the age of the sensor worries me a bit.

t. should've bought the x100t i saw for like $500 a year ago

>>4122210
im buying the a6000 w/ kit lens as a pocketable camera. those lenses dont enter the discussion.

>>4122218
>pocketable camera.
Your results will always be smartphone tier shit.

>>4122218
An a6000 is hardly a pocketable camera lol

>>4122220
with the kit lens it is.
>>4122219
care to explain?

>>4122220
An x100v doesn’t fit in any normal pocket either and the a6000 is smaller.

>>4122223
Have you ever held one? Go to Best Buy or something and check it out first
>>4122224
When did I mention the X100V?

>>4122227
Yes. And I wear vintage 1940's jeans with pretty big pockets. Or, you know, a jacket pocket.

>>4122218
If you want pocketable camera just go get point and shoot film camera and get a good film.

>>4122196
lmao are you me? i did the same recently and have a 50mm f1.8 on the way

i like how the camera feels in comparison to my old nikon dslr. so much lighter and takes up hardly any space

>>4122219
depends on the pocket, fits in my jacket currently but my jacket has big ass pockets

>>4122242
You're not >>4122223

>>4122261
Seeing two (you)s on your post

>>4121506
fuck off

>>4122212
it's yet another chinese company that makes cheap-ish manual prime lenses (and recently, AF too)
their most distinctive feature is that they have clicked aperture rings and a more retro design
I have their 40f2.8, 35f1.4, 50f1.2 and 32f2.8, like them so far


>>4122216
>t. should've bought the x100t i saw for like $500 a year ago
I think that would have been a bot too

>>4122327
wut

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>>4121506
>Can anyone tell me, in real-world usage, how pocketable the X100F is?
It's bigger than a full frame Sony

>>4122384
I, too, carry around my camera without a lens

>>4122390
just use a pancake bro fr fr bussin

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>>4122384
>sony a7c
but why would you buy the plastic fantastic snoy when you could get pic related

also yes fuji x100f will probably fit in a decent sized jacket pocket for whoever was asking that

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>>4122483
>also yes fuji x100f will probably fit in a decent sized jacket pocket
ah yes, the fuji demographic

>>4122493
>mfw i actually wear an old military coat

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Are you as creatively bankrupt as Ricoh?

>>4122520
if they could stop doing this and just focus on making their cameras less prone to random failure and other issues i'd buy one

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Is this shit a gimmick or is it actually good

>>4122528
I don't see why anybody would buy it unless they're disabled and can't manually focus. there are plenty of AF lenses to choose from if you want AF. an adapter that moves the entire lens to focus is something that is an interesting proof of concept I suppose but as an actual product to buy? why bother? you'll get better results just manually focusing yourself, the way the lens is meant to be used and focused.

>>4122384
A7c Mark.II will be mine.

>>4122161

hey hey hey its me again
uh so actually im considering a nex (insert 16mp model thats cheap) as a pocket camera
anyone know any third party pancake lenses that are good? i know the sony 16 is bad and the 20 is expensive meanwhile the ttartisan 25 looked like its kinda SOFT

also considering the fucking gizmo utulens but a "proper" lens would be nice

>>4121829
Now try having a 70-200 f2.8 as a favorite lens.

>>4122520
They're scared
Releasing a GRIV means they have to innovate or *shudder* make more sealed body
I fucking love my GR, but the dust can enter easily like bribeable bouncer from that shady downtown night club

>>4122604
My favorite long lens is just a 200mm f2.8 prime

Sadly uncommon.

>>4122520
>ricoh/pentax making recolors instead of actual products
Nothing new. Dead brand. The X100v is a much better camera anyways.

>>4122565
Is that in the pipeline even? I like my A7C but wouldn't mind a higher res sensor

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>almost exclusively use a6000 with battery eliminator and USB power banks
>1.5 weeks in on trip
>plug camera into USB charger to power it to dump pics
>plug phone into same charger because it's getting low
>kills battery eliminator instantly
>cry about it
>miss out on a ton of photo op the next 3 days
>cope and go buy a brand new battery at huge cost

All because I was like nah I don't need to pack a real battery it'll be fine
Kinda nice I can pop into a random store and find two on the shelf

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>>4122754
I guess I'll also post some sad pictures from phone

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>>4122758
Sniff

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Nikon 3500 good upgrade from 1st-gen Canon EOS M? Mainly want an upgrade for viewfinder, controls, and comfort. Better IQ is a bonus.

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Due to several events I'm away from all my film cameras. It's been 3 years and I'm itching on shooting films again. Almost make me getting a Praktica and a lens but I ended up getting a cheap $10 Ilford Disposable camera.

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>>4122968
you better shoot a fucking masterpiece on that disposable

>>4122974
I did some video research and since it's locked to f10 (why not f8 tho?) I had to use it on broad daylight or using the flash for dramatic effect (or 90s grunge feel). The rest is pretty much using my knowledge of proper natural lighting and I'm that worried I got rusty after 3 years.
Also Kodak made a dispo as well and even put a iso800 film in it too but the results are shitty lol (and I'm not talking about the grains)

>>4122717
Just the usual "rumors", for 2023, so basically nothing so far, alas. I noticed Map Camera dropped the used A7c prices a bit in Japan, they might be onto something.
All I want is the same kind of 4-axis screen as the A7rV. Also for the EVF to be at least on a6xxx levels, but honestly I can live with it. 33Mpix would be great as well. Also it shouldn't be hard to implement as it's software, but after tasting it on a rented A7RV, I want that "AI" focus or whatever marketing term they're using. It's just too good.

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>>4122757
Don't fret too much about it, it's hard to capture its majesty anyway. Seeing it in person is what matters.
I'm unironically considering upgrading my smartphone for one with a better camera, even though so far camera quality for smartphones always has been on my bottom list of what matters to me on these devices, as I never use them. I'll upgrade partly because I also had a misadventure, and it ended up saving my ass. I was glad to have that backup camera with me, even if subpar.

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>>4123158
Holy hdr, what lens? It's very dark in there up high while light leaks in and paints the lower level of it. That's pretty cool that you got it lit well.
Yeah smartphones are always a balance.
Like pixel series have the best processing, I think Sony has the best sensors right now, and then no one has a proper ui/camera app.

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>>4123219
I used my good old and cheap manual Samyang 12mm f2.0. Had to do some Lightroom job though, and had to crank up the iso a bit because it's indeed quite dark in there, and I don't have stabilization on such a lens, nor on my APS-C body. I didn't buy that lens for such endeavors, just for landscapes, but it ended being far more useful than I thought. Probably one of the buys I've been the most satisfied with, considering its price. I kinda wish Samyang would do the same kind of lens for FE, like a 16 or 18mm, f2.0, fully manual to keep it cheap because I honestly don't need AF at such a focal. The have an 18mm AF 2.8, but picture quality is not that great from the reviews. It's not costly though, so there's that.

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>>4123156
I've also heard it getting rumours for 2022 so wouldn't get my hopes up. I imagine they'll update the A9 and A1 first.
Honestly what would be really neat is if the A7Cii were just the A7V in a different form factor but that'd be at least 2 years away I imagine. If they were to release it with only A7IV internals then that wouldn't be enough to push me to upgrade.

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What are some good sites to compare jpg files? I have more money than time so I don't shoot RAW and thinking about the SL.

>>4122384
X100 series is not pocketable. It's not supposed to be.

>>4123536
dpreview has sample galleries for most cameras.

>>4123536
SOOC JPEG is a cope unless all you do are snaps. What's the point of a photo you don't edit to suit a vision? Unless you're making that vision a thing with very controlled lighting of course.

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>>4123567
Editing is boring so I don't do it.

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>>4123572
if your photos are gonna make it onto a computer or tablet, might as well still shoot raw
you're still better off shooting raw + using a base level preset than shooting sooc jpg
can even make it auto-apply on import, no extra "editing" needed, just better IQ as soon as it goes on the computer
if you want to stick to sooc jpgs, fuji has the film sim bases, but can make your own jpg profiles with Nikon via their pc software, and Sony has the most in camera adjustments for jpg

>>4123576
>Sony has the most in camera adjustments for jpg
I can not believe this ridiculous claim. You'll have to provide proofs!

Recommendation on a good tripod thats less than $150? I might be able to stretch to $200
I bought one from target for like $70 and it was unstable when trying to take long exposures.

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>>4123576
Ye aI do love my Fuji for its great jpgs.

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>>4123587
any leofoto used

>>4123598
not falling for that, snoytard. very obvious AI photo edited with fuji EXIF to try and falseflag how bad Fuji is.

>>4123587
one question
How did you trigger the camera?

>>4123641
>How did you trigger the camera?
Tell the camera it can't identify as a toaster

>>4123578
it's through all the controls available for video, which you can use for jpg stills too
so instead of just saturation, you also get color phase and color depth adjustments
instead of just contrast, you also get black level, black gamma, knee, etc
lots of different gamma curves, a dozen different color modes, bunch of different detail settings
im sure panasonic is up there too, just not as familiar
here's an example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeRXwn7ryh4

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Sigma has beefed up its magnets.

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Magnets in the new autofocus motor as well.
Now all 3 major lens makers on E-mount use the high-end motor type.

Sigma no longer have an excuse to delay their 70-200.

>>4123683
>>4123687
They raised their magic skill levels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFabsRFnWy0

I own a cheap mirrorless atm for holiday snaps.
Was thinking about picking up a DSLR and getting more into photography.
Had my eye on a budget Nikon that's really cheap used.
But apparently it doesn't have a histogram, which I what I'm used to using to judge exposure.
Is this a deal breaker, or will I get used to exposing by eye through the viewfinder?

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>Let's give it a smaller tripod foot
>what could possibly go wrong?
Smegma in charge of engineering

>>4123724
or maybe SNOY can learn to make more substantial bodies like everyone else. This was obviously designed for the L system

>>4123730
>This was obviously designed for the L system
Nah. Leica has yet to release a 2 kilogram body.

>>4123731
>thinking you need a 2kg body to balance a 2.5kg lens
dumb HS dropout snoytard

>>4123732
You do need that when the engineer was too retarded to give you long enough tripod foot to adjust the center of gravity. Try again brainlet.

>>4123732
They might have to release a 4kg body, actually. Since the front element is skewered so far away.

>>4123730
Instead of releasing a new camera body every time you launch a new giga lens, it would be much easier to just engineer a long tripod foot which can adjust to all of your bodies.

The former is the sick machations of a 4chan autist. The latter is practical real world engineering.

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>>4123732
>yfw Sigma's own cameras are even smaller than the snoys

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>>4123733
>>4123734
>>4123737
>>4123741
don't throw rocks in glass houses snoytards.

>>4123743
Accccshuullliiiii that one weigh less and it doesn't shift its front element when you zoom.
So it can actually zoom as much as it wants on the gimbalhead without needing readjustments on the fly.

You made a retard mistake, just own up to it.

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>>4123743
I mean, have you seen the size of smegma's own native cameras? You could have had a point of these things weigh 2 kilogram, or 6 kilogram or whatever. But they don't weigh that much and would balance even worse.

>>4123753
Have you retards ever owned externally focusing zoom lens? They will tip to one side eventually. Mounting arm is adjustable, though.

>>4123754
You're dodging the topic, but whatever.

You can put less stress on the gimbalhead and give it a more neutral posiiton if the tripod foot was a proper length. If would also mean you readjust less as you change the zoom.
That's the proper way.
Longer tripod foot also helps you on the other head types.

friend of mine is looking for a new camera, has only really been shooting APS-C, has to be a good general use machine but needs to be able to shoot things like RC planes/helis in flight, he also specifically wants to buy Canon, with that in mind would you suggest something like the R7, or should he make the switch and pick up one of the usual FF choices?

>>4123785
>APS-C
Fuji

What does /p/ think of a a6000 with a 38k shutter count for $175?

Primary camera is an a7iii. Want a secondary camera to take out at night without caring if I get mugged.

>>4124063
not /p/ but i think it's a pretty nice deal as long as the camera isn't beaten to shit

>>4124063
Cheaper than ebay. Buy it. They last for a few hundred thousand shutter actuations.

>>4121396
who here /cameratrapping/? bought myself a setup from camtraptions for christmas and can't wait to try it

>>4124107
Sounds cool, share some pictures if you get any eight legged dear

also guess what everyone!
>>4122599
ITS ME! AGAIN!
but this time i have an actual question that goes beyond just "is this good"

My question is, "How important is a larger sensor compared to a good lens?"
You see, I could get the aforementioned Nex camera but I'm seeing a big lack of high quality pancake lenses with the best one probably being the rather expensive 20mm 2.8. Otherwise, for $200 I could get an RX100 III which has a better lens but a smaller sensor. In theory, the APS-C would win but looking at some flickr pictures from the RX100 I kind of like them and don't think they look too bad. Here's some of what I mean :

https://flic.kr/p/D1GUvF
https://flic.kr/p/2hFRooL
https://flic.kr/p/2kU8Yq1

>>4124141
you're already doing the best thing which is to make a decision for yourself based on looking at actual photos produced by each sensor and evaluating the image quality they're capable of.

the pros and cons of each sensor are going to mostly be
* less light gathered for a smaller sensor, so higher noise (also affected by sensor generation, etc.)
* less shallow depth of field for a smaller sensor
if you're ok with the difference in these two areas, then you're probably fine with the smaller sensor.

Redpill me on cheap batteries

Which ones blow up
Which ones don't

>>4124352
Don't stick a canon battery in a Vivitar battery charger neither stick a Canon battery in a Vivitar battery charger.

Any opinions on blackrapid slings? I don't like camera straps so I'm looking for more comfortable options

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y0 rate me tripod

>>4124354
Not you.

>>4124359
Based

>>4124360
Alright, well don't go crying to me when your canon battery gets so overloaded it can't fit in your camera from improper charging.

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>>4124359

>>4124361
I shoot sony.

>>4124366
I'd still be careful from putting 3rd party batteries in your Sony brand charger. Another good rule of thumb with batteries is to wait until they are used up completely to recharge them again.

>>4124367
Are you letting your "beard" write these posts? Has the cheeto dust attained sentience?

>>4124366
I offer my condolences

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Which one /p/? They’re pretty similar in price and the SL EVF is phenomenally good.

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>>4124639
S5iix

>>4124639
Leica SL has no dials

>>4124759
>no dials
SOVL

>>4124659
Nah the EVF on the SL is truly god-tier.

What's the smallest FF zoom lens (20-60mm or more) that not awful?

>>4124847
Tamron has a 20-40 that is constant aperture.

>>4124847
The kit lens for the Snoy A7C is not that bad actually as long as you're shooting in daylight, 28-60mm and you can get it used for less than $200

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Any L Mount shooters here? What should I expect from this set up plus the Panasonic 50mm 1.8? I generally shoot street and cityscapes with some travel.

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Looking for a full frame camera on the cheap, dont care about video or super quick af, preferably a mount which has access to long focal lengths that arent ridiculously expensive.
Do i get an older dslr like a d750/810/5dm4 or some lower end mirrorless?

>>4125069
Forgot to say decent weather sealing is a must.

With current resurgence of people using old film cameras again I predict that in a decade there will be new generation of young people who want to take pics with old digital cameras.
>"Hologram photography? Screw that, give me that Panasonic Lumix GF1"

>>4125069
You can try eBay.

>>4125126
Have you been living under a rock? There is nothing new about the resurgence of film, and young people are already starting to buy shitty early 2000s digital point and shoots for blurry y2k shots.

Um Nikon Z9 review??? Who has

>>4125069
>>4125072
Pentax K-1 but make sure you get a WR or AW lens on it.

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my target setup, as i gradually sell and switch out my gear:

main body = leica m10 monochrom + summilux 35mm f/1.4 pre-asph

backup body = fuji x-pro3 + voigtlander snapshot-skopar 25mm f/4

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>>4125270
i can pack both of these in a small bag. no other lenses or equipment, besides charging cables and a card reader.

>>4125270
>>4125272
>needs battery
disgusting

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So I’m not sure if this is the right place to post, but I have sort of a reverse gear issue. Namely, I have too much of it that I don’t use.
I have a Canon 6D, Elan 7NE, three EF lenses, a moldy Minolta XD11, XG-A, three MD primes, a couple of Pentax point and shoots, and a K1000. My main camera is a Sony a6400 which I like (good photos, great autofocus, bad ergonomics).

I’m having trouble bringing myself to downsize. I’m hoarding all this camera gear, and barely use any of it (most of my pictures are family snapshits, which the a6400 excels at).

I’m holding onto the camera gear because “I might use it” and “I got a good deal on the Elan, and I need lenses for it and might as well keep the 6D”.

I’m not hurting for money, just storage space. My house is filled with hobby stuff and I’m trying to pare everything down.

Any advice on parting with gear? Any recovered hoarders on the board?

Attached is a picture of a couple of my cows.

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>>4125270
basically my daily set-up
M10-M + 35 Nokton f1.5
X-Pro3 + 23/35 f2 or 27 f2.8
X-Pro ovf + manual glass feels so memey to me, it's just a worse M10 experience, I'd rather just AF lenses with it.

>>4125275
>he uses a single charge mechanical battery
>talks shit about more capable batteries

>>4125275
>needs rolls of film coated with silver that is increasingly more expensive and rare
sounds like shit

>>4125275
your film camera uses a battery, sweetness

>>4125404
not necessarily true i have several which don't

>>4125324
>Pentax K1000
Lots of hipsters are salivating over it. Sell it for premium price before the trend is over
>Several Pentax P&S
As someone who used Espio, just sell them all and replace them with one good prime lens P&S. Probably Nikon L34AF or AD because they use the most basic battery, doube A so you don't have too worry so much about the battery getting discontinued.

Also CLA your poor Minolta.

>>4125404
Many older film cameras only use battery for their light meter tho. You can still use them without light meter just fine (you either use the Sunny 16 rule or external light meter)
You only fucked if you use film camera that require a lot more electrical energy other than light meter. But they're mostly P&S or professional camera like Nikon F4.

>>4125473
Why would you fuck a film camera? That's just nasty anonymous. Really nasty. I'd just use the camera, not fuck it. Cameraphilia

>>4125475
What the hell are you talking about? Are you drunk? ESL?

>>4125491
Drunk on life and college.

>>4125404
>digislug projection and ignorance
lel, ever heard of selenium meters and flash cubes? faggot

>>4125473
I have to use sunny 16 anyway because my cameras light meter is out of whack

>>4125525
You can save for a good Sekonic light meter or pay $2.50 for Lightmeter app made by David Quiles.

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>>4125578
you paid for a light meter app

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That new 20-70 F4.0 G will be mine. I'll just add a wider and faster lens for astro, and I'll be set for my mountain hikes.

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>>4125888
Is it internally zooming like the 16-35G?

Does anyone use aftermarket focusing screen on a DSLR? Does it help with manual focus?

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>>4125898
>internally zooming
lol. lmao.

>>4125901
It does if you know how to shim it properly

>>4125903
Is it at least sharp, for a lame wedding photographer zoom range?

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>>4125934
>Is it at least sharp

>>4125937
>all lenses are equally fantastic
*for decently lit photos
But that's unrelated to sharpness

>>4125938
what mid-tier or higher 1st party lens released in the past few years hasn't been sharp?

>>4125944
I see you missed the
>but that's unrelated to sharpness
They're all great until you start hurting for light

>>4125945
>hurting for light
then why are you even considering an f4 lens? go f/2.8 or go home

>>4125946
chill man
I already have a bunch of 1.Xs

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>>4125765
I paid for it because I have a lot of doubts with free ones.
At least the paid one is quite accurate, and you can even buy an external device to make the app capable of Incidental light meter.
Also it's just 2.50. What, you can spend hundreds on gears but not 2.50?

>>4125937
Lemme guess, this article was written back in 2008-2013 when most sensors still have a lot of noise above ISO 100.

>>4125888
>20-70 F4.0
why

>>4125934
>F4.0
>indoor shoots

>>4125929
Why would I need to shim it?

>>4125937
>renkockwell.com
I sell prints. He posts 400x400 photos on a blog and recommends 12mp cameras. I was born when every camera had autofocus. He's glad to have a camera better than a pentax spotmatic.

>>4125980
its from the blog of king boomer bullshit. he also has a page saying 35mm film has hundreds of megapickels contrary to the entire professions opinion that even 120 is insufficient compared to digital cameras as of 2018.

>>4125991
>why
Because I need a convenient lens for traveling/hiking. It checks the wide 20mm end, which is perfect, but a 20mm end that would be at 2.8 (and I'm not even counting the rest of the range up to 70mm) would make it too big and heavy. And thus not interesting to me. Simple as.
20-70 at F4 is a good middle ground for my own use case. It's a tad too big already, but acceptable considering the 20mm.

>>4125978
i use a free one that can use the phone's ambient light sensor as an incident meter but the camera seems to be the better way to go

>>4126035
>Using phone's ambient light sensor as incident meter
NGMI

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>>4125898
kek

>>4125997
Digital focusing screens are thicker and designed to be brighter at the cost of focusing accuracy, for this they are not shimmed in to the focusing plane either. A proper focusing screen meant to aid manual focusing is thinner to have the focus plane outside the screen when it is off focus, it is less bright because of this. Because it is more precise you want it to be shimmed in to have spot on focus otherwise your pictures will end up back or front focused all the time.
It was part of a camera shop service to be check and adjust the focusing screen.

>>4126296
>bigger than the 24-70 f4
at least it has the little button i use for the focus magnifier
i'm waiting on lenstip to test the sharpness otherwise i'd rather just have the 20mm prime

>>4126346
>focus magnifier
>AF lens
Do you really have to check the focus area that often on an AF lens? Is Snoy AF that bad?

>>4126347
>The lens has AF, so you never use MF!
Tell me
What is it like
Not owning a camera

>>4126347
>Is Snoy AF that bad
yes, it's garbage. Every OEM except Fuji has better AF now. snoy rested too long on their laurels with the A9 and can't keep up anymore

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Ricoh GR III (28mm) or GRIIIx (40mm)?

Im getting rid of my Canon APS-C for something more portable. But its hard to decide on focal length. I am scared that I may not be able to get what I want in the frame with a 40, but I also find 28 perhaps a tad too large (I would prefer a 35). Which one should I get? Are there any differences between the cameras aside from focal length? (like autofocusing system etc)

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Right /p/ its autism time

Which digital camera brand excluding Leica and Hasselblad has the best b&w/monochrome mode?

In your opinion of course

>>4126515
X100v

>>4126577
Lightroom.

>>4126515
Well as someone who use Ricoh GR I still love my 28 but that because I love to frame my photos in a certain scene rather than focusing on a subject.
So my question is, what kind of photos you want to make?

>>4126577
Leica Monochrom of course. The sensor is pretty much designed especially for BW.
Or better go get a film Leica and go get some Ilford film rolls.
OR BETTER, learn to make Infra red photography.

>>4122203
[spoiler] retard [/spoiler]

>>4126579
But what is the point if I cant fit it in my pocket? Then I might as well bring my full frame.

>>4126586
Well I take a bunch of different types of photos. For example last week I was in Chicago, and only had a 50mm prime. I couldnt get the buildings from top to bottom into the pictures. I wished then I had a more wide lens.

But on the other hand, a wide angle lens doesnt capture the "magnificence" of skyscrapers, since it makes them look smaller than they do in real life. I don't know what the solution to that is though. A tilt-shift lens?

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>>4126610
Eh, to capture the magnificence of a building you need other objects around it to show how great the building is. The twin tower will always shown towering over other buildings. Pyramid of Giza tend to be taken with people standing around it or the Sphinx on the front. The Great Wall of China pics will always taken on the mountains part. It's always about framing.

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>The Great Wall of China pics will always taken on the mountains part
Because that's only well-maintained and easily accessible part, retard

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>>4126629
>The twin tower will always shown towering over other buildings
because they were literally surrounded by building all around? the only way to not show them towering over everything else is if you found an angle with no other buildings

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>>4126669
>>4126671
"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

>>4126629
But the fact is that objects in the distance look proportionally smaller than they should due to distortion, when using a wide angle lens. And they look even bigger than they should with a telephoto. I'd rather get the telephoto perspective in most cases.

>>4126722
Go ahead then. Like I said, taking a pic you pretty much creating a narrative. Even a simple thing taking a pic of your family will be different if you frame them tightly or adding more background around them.

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Check out my shitters. I’m between systems so I’ll probably be selling the the K-5, G7X and GRiiiX.

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Does Canon actually have any good offerings in the sub $2000 space these days or are they just relegating that entire space to their second class, undersupported crop shit? Should I jump ship to a different brand?

>>4126804
I'd sell everything and get a more modern full frame camera used. The XT2 is hot garbage and yet you could sell it for $750+ on ebay, Everything there is probably worth over $2000 alltogether and you could get a nikon Z6 or and a handful of primes for that, or an APSC snoy, lenses, and lighting/video equipment and be set for a career.

>>4126828
it amazes me how shitty old fujis sell for twice as much as a crop sensor camera from that generation should. people just see dials with numbers and think "high end" even if it really isn't. even new, fujis are more expensive than their competition, but they don't perform like it and don't have the build quality to back it up.

same company that discontinued 3 packs of film due to "insufficient demand" in the middle of a film craze. fuji's life blood is the mass of gullible suckers who attach too much emotional significance to consooming and fail to see the camera as the soulless machine it is, and the heart pumping it along is the internet shill.

>>4126828
>over $2000
>fuji: $600
>ricoh: $800
>canon: $200
>pentax: $250
>film shitter: $50 lol
>another $700-900 in lenses
Fuck he has enough sunk into gearfaggotry to buy a brand new fuji AND replace all his lenses, brand new, or a used almost-top-shelf canon/nikon/sony that outperforms a brand new fuji.

Gearfaggotry floors me. Unless it's a backup that's a copy of your main camera what do multiple digital cameras really do? I only have one camera and one lens and am carefully considering maybe 1 or 2 more lenses, and have no need to consoom further unless I can land a job that requires more.

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this thing travels with me on my motorcycle. a pretty good value in 2023

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I have a 10 year old APS-C Canon.

I'd like to get a FF replacement for use in portrait and food photography. What is a good option?

The last thing I knew 5D Mk3 was the industry standard. MF is outside of my price range.

>>4126832
If you think Fujis are bad then what about Canon?

The original EOS M still goes for like $200-300 which is the price of an a5100 or a6000. And dont even get me started on the M50. You say Fuji don’t have the build quality but Canon’s entire APS-C lineup until the R10 and R7 is all just rebel tier plastic shells for mediocre technology.

>>4126858
Brand recognition is the bane of fair prices.

>>4126857
Probably not a DSLR. A used A7RII or A7III could be cheap enough for you (or you could haggle someone down on an A7RIII), especially given the massive range of third party lenses for snoy. It's affordable to the point of causing buyers remorse driven sony hate on /p/.

If a DSLR go for a nikon D800 or D810, older nikon lenses (some of them are very sharp) are shitting the bed in price because of all the Z mount shit coming out, plus Z mount getting an adapter that lets it use every lens ever made for sony.

>>4126828
>>4126832
>>4126837
seething snoytards

>>4126863
>lol look at this guy he spent almost $3000 on shitty cameras
>REEEE I HATE SONY
Do you hate the sony because it's a better camera that you can't afford after blowing your load on live action roleplay props

At least buy a newer fuji instead of an up and coming youtube "sovl and retro" meme cmon

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I think I see what's happening here considering how new the 50mm f/1.4 is. Sony probably violated an agreement with Zeiss and Zeiss is breaking off their relationship. Recent Sony replacements of Sony/Zeiss lenses
>PZ 16-35 f/4 in place of 16-35 Zeiss
>20-70 f/4 in place of 24-70 Zeiss
Expect to see all Zeiss lenses discontinued once the great replacement is complete

>>4126822
Depends what lenses you want. I just bought an open box R6 for $1600. I want a good 50mm, so will either bite the bullet and buy the 1.2L, or will sell everything for a Lumix.

>>4126862
>Probably not a DSLR
Thanks, I wish I could affordably rent and test everything out. But I have heard a lot of good things about the A7RIII.

I need to invest in some props and backdrop but once I do that, think I'll more seriously think about getting a new camera.

>>4126869
The D800/D810 will give you 90% of the newer MILCs image quality and convenience and is $500-$1000 cheaper than mirrorless, and thousands cheaper in the lens department.

>>4126866
So many of the sony/zeiss lenses have been stinkers that got outperformed by samyangs that I think sony might have told zeiss to fuck off

>>4126875
>The D800/D810 will give you 90% of the newer MILCs image quality and convenience
Hmm, I'll peep.

I'm pretty knowledgable of technical stuff just haven't stayed up on new developments. But outside of the improved noise floor and no cropped sensor I'm looking for, I need some features like 2x zoom or better intervals than 5x and 10x that will make it easier setting focus and shooting untethered. Canon makes stuff like that really challenging.

>>4126804
What lens on the K-5II? That hood looks funky

>>4126858
>Canon’s entire APS-C lineup until the R10 and R7 is all just rebel tier plastic shells for mediocre technology
You say that like the R10 and R7 aren't trash tier cameras.

Is EOS M10 in great condition for 200$ a good deal? If not, what are good alternative MILCs for normie general-purpose photography?

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>>4126858
>Canon’s entire APS-C lineup until the R10 and R7 is all just rebel tier plastic shells for mediocre technology.
retard. the 7D was peak APS-C for many years. the 70D to 90D with DP-PDAF also had the best AF of any APS-C camera when in live view mode

>>4126925
I still have a 7D, what would be the best upgrade path from that?

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>>4126931
DSLRs are dead. R7 if sticking with APS-C, or R6 if going up to FF. Any lenses you currently have will work even better on one of those bodies with the Canon adapter due to IBIS and better AF.

>>4126837
It's funny to see Panasonic Lumix isn't even in that list.
Why you guys are so allergic to Panasonic? Their sensors are great.

>>4126937
Should I just bite the bullet and upgrade to FF even if I'll have to get rid of the couple of APS-C lenses I have? (18-135mm zoom and 10-22mm wide angle)
The things I've read make it sound like Canon APS-C is a bit of a dead end. The 7D's poor low light performance was an issue for me quite often, so going for another APS-C camera feels like it might be a mistake even if the R6 is considerably more expensive.

>>4126945
if you can afford it, go FF. APS-C will always be the red-headed child of any system that caters to both FF and APS-C.

>>4126938
>panasoynic
>great
go to the /vid/ thread.

>>4126945
The R7 is gimped in several important ways to push consumers towards the more expensive FF options, it's not an adequate successor to the 7D at all. Canon learned their lesson with providing too much value in an affordable package.

>>4126951
You just jealous Panasonic can do high speed without breaking a sweat.

i shoot film with a rangefinder. i have a fuji xe2 that i rarely use because i kinda dont like digital (dont really like evfs either) and i dont have a good lens for it (in the focal lengths that i like). do i buy an xpro 1 hoping i will like digital or is it my GAS talking

>>4127036
Nobody else is saying anything so I’ll give my thoughts. If the main reason you don’t enjoy digital is because of EVFs then maybe it’ll work and you should try it. If you don’t like digital because of the way the pictures look, or some other uncontrollable reason you should probably stick with film, assuming you can afford it. Also make sure there actually is a lens you like for it that you can afford or something you could learn to like.

>>4127036
Most EVFs are genuinely awful until you get into newer cameras. Then they're merely ok, and almost good closer to the $4000 mark. If your camera has a way to avoid stop-down metering you absolutely need that otherwise the image gets noisier as you adjust the aperture down.

>>4127036
Try the X-t2 or 3. The EVF is much bigger and better.
An Xpro will be similar but the AF is pretty shit and you kinda just have to trust the camera to focus correctly. An Xpro2 has better AF and a little window in the bottom-right so you can confirm focus.

>>4127321
evfs are like dicks. it doesn't matter how much bigger or better they are until they reach a certain point, but then you can never really get enough.

t. long term sony shooter since the first a7

Post things you hate about your camera
>A7RIII
>No lossless compressed raw, end up shooting jpeg and using picture profiles 1-4 as editing presets unless it's an important shot to avoid hard drive vampire/slow previews syndrome
>AWB sometimes creates orange fringing at high contrast, high detail areas in warm light
>AWB is on the orangey-greeny side by default
>need to dedicate a picture profile to fixing jpeg skin tones, no help for raw. why so green?
>no timed exposures past 30s, bulb mode is press and hold only, need to buy a much fancier remote
>can't unlock PASM dial

>>4127299
>>4127313
>>4127321
Thanks bros I actually had an x-s10 that I just sold. I bought it 2 years ago and only took a hundred pics on it. I just hate how the evf is a screen and is usually really bright and makes shit look weird, but if I turn the brightness down I can't see it well. Maybe I'll force myself to use the xe2 for a month and see if I actually like it

>>4127036
x-pro* ovf is great if you like to zone focus manual lenses or use autofocus

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>>4126837
Actually they all have a purpose and are fairly different cameras. When I want an OVF I go Pentax, if I want pocketable I go Ricoh, low depth of field I go Fuji. Travel Canon. Film, Minolta.
But as I said. Soon I’ll just have the X-T2 with nifty fifty and a zoom and the Canon for travelling.

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>>4127366
Have you considered a DSLR?

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>>4127363
I have an X-T2.
I can’t charge it with a USB cable and the EVF could use a few more pixels.

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What is the most cheap used MILC that isn't complete shit by today's standarts? I want to try and see if I even need it.

>>4127534
You can get a GX85 and two decent kit lenses bundled for like 500 or so new, even cheaper used. I used them (and a couple additional primes) throughout the last several years, including on a trip to Japan, and enjoyed what I was getting out of it. It's a somewhat dated sensor on the smallest serious format, sure, but with static subjects the IBIS still let me do decent work even in low light. It does everything one need for entry level (or learning) photography and casual video too. The main issues most people would run into is the form factor: it's a small camera with a small grip, but it's a light set up and I have small hands so it was fine for me. The EVF also wasn't exactly class leading even upon release, but it's a necessary compromise for the form factor and I still found it usable even as a glasses wearer.

>>4127541
No no no, you don't seem to get me. I mean like complete hobo price level. Under "isn't complete shit" I've meant photos not stretched on 4k screen, can shoot 1080p videoin any framerate if needed and preferably lenses not becoming useless after i get rid of it. So far I'm thinking of something like snoy NEX F3/3N/5N, where I am it's possible to get them for ~120$ in ok condition with kit lens and a pancake/some soviet lens.

>>4127544
Pretty much any MILC will do then, lol. I'd probably consider something on a still-living mount if you'd like room to grow in whatever system (so not NEX or EF-M, for example), and I'm sure the oldest options from Panasonic, Olympus, Fuji, or Sony are all in that bottom barrel price range and work fine within your standards.

>>4127577
I know about EF-M being dead but isn't Sony E still ok? I'm planning to stay in APS-C so no need for full frame capability. Considering that I need it just for normie photography with higher that digital-soap-dish and chinkphone quality, I don't think that I'll ever need something higher than a6xxx and, well, it uses the E-mount.

>>4127588
I mistakenly confused NEX with the Samsung NX line (which was actually apparently pretty good while it persisted, I hear). Carry on then, if you go the Snoy route.

>>4127534
Have you checked the Samsung NX line? They were decent and the 30mm F2 was decent.
Or NX mini if you're looking for something very compact.

>>4127589
Well then, thanks for approving my delusions :)
>>4127590
I've checked them, where I am they're usually cheaper than NEXs of same age, but I previously had EXTREMELY negative experience with Samsung electronics + NX-mount is ded, so I didn't really consider them.

>>4127596
Who cares about dead mounts when you're looking for cheap?

>>4127610
I'm able to pay *a bit* more if that means that I can later use lenses on something better.

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E-mount is about to get another 50mm F1,4 GM from Sony. And another 50mm F1,4 Art from Sigma.

>>4127626
Finally a 50mm lens for a mount that is desperately needs one