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Darkroom Edition
Anon, you DO print your photos right? You DO realize that a huge part of analog photography is using enlargers to print your photos, right? Show us some of your prints
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>>4099957
How i wish to finally have the space at home to do that
But at least i dev my own film, it's enough, r-right ?
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Family firend gifted me a mint Spotmatic SP2, i am blessed i love it very much
if i use a varta 394 it should be good for the lightmeter right ?
Also first time using a m42 mount, so no idea what lense i should try
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>>4099966
A Takumar is a must for M42.
Industar 50-2 if you want something really small
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>>4099969
it came with the SMC Takumar 55mm f1.8
any fun optic, with wierd bokey or swirly blur those old m39 soviet lenses ?
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I knew this lens would be bigger than my Vega-12 but what the fuck man
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>>4099827
this is great
>>4099796
nice collection and cool film
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I just bought a cardboard box full of darkroom stuff from the flea market and I thought you would like to know

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>>4100011
Show us anon
>tfw bought a brand new bulk film loader for $20
life is good
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>>4099965
I'm honestly thinking of getting the Ilford darkroom tent because I could set that up in a corner of my room
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Is this the way to go when looking for an enlarger, or can used stuff be more economical/viable?

https://intrepidcamera.co.uk/collections/darkroom
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>>4099957
I actually have an enlarger and a bunch of various shit I've picked up here and there but no room to set any of that up. Thought I'd buy a house one day but that is never happening now, and besides what the fuck would I do with the prints?
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>>4100020
Ive got that compact enlarger and its pretty nice, ive only done b/w 5x7 prints on it though. Need to get a better suited tripod/copy stand or what have you to make bigger prints.
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Pretty new to film. Developing and scanning myself also with an Epson V600. This was taken with a Minolta X-700 and the 50mm f1.4. I just recently picked up a Nikon F2 and have a 85mm Zeiss Planar T* f1.4 and 200mm Nikkor QC f4 for it. Need to invest in a wide angle as most of my shots are landscapy anyway

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>>4100121
looks like you processed them upside down
better luck next time bro
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>>4100093
hang them? give them to friends/family?
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my photos are still shit, but i feel like trying to make a photo book one day

anyone here made one?
what did you spend/ make from sales?
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>>4100121
Why does landscape need a wide angle?
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>>4100172
anon is a kangaroo and cannot walk backwards
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>>4100140
I already have several paintings occupying my walls by my late grandmother and they have way more emotional and aesthetic value than my snapshits. And literally nobody would give a shit about random landscape shits from some dude to put on their own wall vs. their own cellphone family photos they at least have some connection with. Selling them is pointless hassle that doesn't pay the effort and normies are fine with inkjet shit anyway so why bother with the darkroom?
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>gf load ektachrome on her TLR
>we shoot in the hype of getting beautiful reversal pics
>she goes alone at the lab
>labman ask if she want classic E6 or cross-process
>she doesn't know much about lab shit so she goes with the cross-process
sad. At least the pictures i got from her are good on a technical stand point
pic is me by her

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I dont have an enlarger but I make crusty looking contact prints from largeformat negatives. That counts I guess.

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>>4100183
Literally 15seconds with curves

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>>4100189
yeah let me adjust curves on my physical slide for loading it into my projector, goofy
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>>4100194
Lol you dont look at crossprocessed E6 film projected because it comes as negative. Do you even dev bro?
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>>4100183
>classic E6 or cross-process
Huh? I didn't know regular E6 (also known as "E6") was relegated to classic status. What's this cross process? Is it still reversal?
Looks kinda like that tungsten kit CineStill does.
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>>4100195
the whole shtick of slide film is to project them, that's why i'm ranting.
If i wanted off-colored film to adjust on the computer i would have used cheap expired film, not 20 bucks a roll premium slide.
>>4100196
classic, regular.. synonyms
it's using c41 on slide to make it a negative. Hipsters love this shit because "muh lomography".
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bros which one should i buy?
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>>4100202
>it's using c41 on slide to make it a negative
oh right, so it is a negative. Why are you calling people who assumed that goofy? >>4100194
there's not really any such thing as 'wrong' color balance with C41 negative film because correction is an inherent part of printing or scanning. Every stock has a slightly different natural balance, and yours happens to be more different, which you failed to correct in the inversion.
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>>4100239
None of the two but if you really have to decide between them then go for the Minolta. That EOS500 is a cheaply made piece of shit.
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>>4099957
I wonder what shit lens came with it
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>>4100252
ok thanks
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>>4100239
>Dresden
based

double check if you would get an eos300 or 500 and if it's the 300 go for it, otherwise the minolta
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>>4100259
damn youre right, it says eos 300 but in the photo you see its a 500
good catch
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>>4100248
Except that i stated that it was a slide film and i wanted it specially for slide purpose, but since i wasn't the one who went to the lab it didn't have the result i expected.
On a technical point the film is correctly scanned and treated since it's supposed to look like that in cross-processing, but no number of "correction" will make it appear like it should have been using E-6, and the "slide-projection" use is forever lost
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>>4100259
>>Dresden
>based
heh btw are you also from here? lets go fo a shoot together

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>>4100274
Maybe I got the wrong end of the stick.
I was kind of talking out of my ass with the 'no such thing as wrong balance' thing but it makes sense to me because the CC you do in enlarging is always a bit different each time, and inverting in Darktable requires you to give it the color of the film base and pick out something to WB against, so to me there's no natural starting point that can be right or wrong.
You seem like a cool guy, have my attempt at CC.

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>>4100311
>You seem like a cool guy
you'd be wrong, i am a total arrogant and angry twat, but thank you for the edit.
You are a good man
>>4100189
also thank you for trying too
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>shoots a tlr
>its a retarded hipster
As expected
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Reposting for more advice. I have a box of 35mm slides that I want to digitize for print. I've been looking at different 35mm scanners but they all seem to have lots of negative reviews. From what I understand, a bed scanner is better than a lens attachment for a camera.

Can someone please suggest what I should do? Pic related was named #1 in some "best film scanners" list but it has a lot of 1-star reviews.

Thanks for the feedback so far, everybody.
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Vision3 is fun but man the chemistry I've been using to develop it dies quickly. This shot was overexposed one stop and developed in CS2 and I think it's the last roll I can do before I can replace it. Lasted about 5 rolls and 13 days, before it started to get weird. Maybe I'm just not used to developing color though.
>>4100396
I talked to you a bit the other thread, this image is scanned from a plustek. It's WAY better than the flatbed I was using. I can post a crop in a second.
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>>4100407
>4chan ate my scan again
ok seriously anyone know why this is happening?
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>>4100396
>>4100407
So to add on to this, the scan quality is great with this thing. I’m using a 7600 I got used on eBay and running it with a pirates copy of VueScan, then fucking with the raw in Gimp. Overall I’m happy with the results but be aware that it takes a while to do, especially at higher resolution and with more passes. But in terms of sheer optical quality it’s pretty good, and I got mine used for like $150 with all the cables and film holders.
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>>4100414
Thanks for your help, anon!

>and running it with a pirates copy of VueScan
I hadn't even considered software. I have Photoshop but good to know that I'll need to grab a copy of vuescan.
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>>4100408
Your color profile is in EXIF data that 4chan doesn’t into?
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>>4100420
Maybe, I'm just exporting it straight out of gimp as a png so idk what the issue is.
>>4100417
Yeah avoid the software that comes with scanners like the plague. Most people use Vuescan or Silverfast.
>>4099982
Big lad. I want to get some more lenses for my Bronica at some point.
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your favorite b&w film
your favorite high contrast b&w film
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>>4100475
hp5
pushed hp5
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anyone have experience shooting tri-x/hp5 at 1600 with flash? will it turn out ok?
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>>4100517
It depends on the flash you are using. In pic related you would have to use the red auto mode and stop down an extra stop (f16) according to the guide because it only goes to 800. I dont see any other reason why it wouldn't work, but I could be retarded.
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>>4100476
that's what I use too but I'm curious what other anons use
Ferrania P30 looks pretty nice, I might try that after I finish the pushed hp5 in my camera
https://grainery.app/m/film/Ferrania%20P30
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Nikon F2 Titan or F3/T(titan)
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>>4100475
>your favorite b&w film
Fomapan 200 (come and get me, haters)
>you're favorite high contrast b&w film
Adox HR-50
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Why are film togs so interested in car headlights?
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>>4100475
lomo kino berlin
double xx or delta3200
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anyone have tried the himalaya 200?
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>>4100095
That’s cool. I’ve done some printing before and desu 5x7 was my go-to. Thanks for the info.
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>>4100539
shut up cunt
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>>4100396
I’ve got that scanner. It’s pretty good—way better than my Epson V600. I use mine with Vuescan and am usually happy with the results. I believe new Plusteks come with Silverfast but I haven’t tried that one yet.
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>>4100579
Neophyte moths to a low barrier-of-entry flame. A lot of people who shoot film these days aren't very good photographers
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>>4100475
>your favorite b&w film
was lomo for the price but now HP5 because £2 a roll
>your favorite high contrast b&w film
Delta 3200
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>>4100731
>HP5
>Twice as expensive in the US
being an american is suffering. our domestic film fancies itself professional quality and will never, ever lower prices.
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>>4100733
Well it's usually £5 but working at a camera store has its benefits. I buy all our film at stupid cheap prices.
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>>4100184
That is beautiful I just said out loud
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>>4100733
HP5 is like the cheapest black and white film I can find though. Tri-x is as much as color film practically. I'd love to try some other stuff if it was cheaper, but it's hard to beat 5-7$ HP5
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>>4100756
>I'd love to try some other stuff if it was cheaper
aliexpress fomapan
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Camera repair guy told me that my zenit looked like I fished it out of a pond :(
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>>4100763
This shit is like $10 a roll
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Just bulk load retards
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>>4100769
woah, it was $8 for a 3 pack like two months ago
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>>4100770
no thanks, I'll just pay cost price
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>mfw bulk loading Shangai GP3
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>>4100773
to be fair maybe I didn't do a great job looking, might still be out there
>>4100770
I've bulk loaded Vision3 and it's a bit of a hassle but not too bad. Haven't tried B&W though.
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>>4100763
Fotoimpex or macodirect, not aliexpress baka.
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>>4100812
Ultrafine extreme 400, anon. Do it.
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>>4100867
Nice, if it was in stock I'd get some
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>>4100765
I laughed out loud
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this is my local, it's about $1-$2 more per roll than I see online but at least they have a stock and no shipping, so it evens out (I tell myself)

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>>4100883
That's a seriously impressive stock.
LF slide film is not something you see every day.
Do they have paper and chems as well?
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>>4100475
foma 100
foma 100 with flash
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>>4100765
show us the zenit
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>>4100769
wtf is this i just paid $9 aussie dollars for some foma 400.
WHY THE FUCK DOES MY STORE HAVW A LIMIT ON ULTRAMAX FUCK JUST LET ME BUY MORE WTF I'M GIVING YOU MY MONEY AND YOU DON'T WANT IT
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>>4101031
because other people might want some ultramax anon, it's in short supply these days. learn to be considerate
just kidding, some redditor is gonna scoop it up and take pics of his dogs with it and post them for internet points #analog

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>>4101035
i was forced to buy the 3 pack with 24 exposures just so i can take more photos, what an absolute scam. FUCK I JUST WANT SOME
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>>4101020
that doesn't even show the door on the left with 120 films
I don't think so, it's a development lab so they'd want to cover that for you.
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>>4100880
I mean I bought it at a flea market for 10 dollars so...
>>4101028
Is still on repairs the shutter curtain became lose so I took it there, they opened it and told me that was really rusty/dirty and shit.
I expected it anyway
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Too bad it's the darkest time of the year here. It might take some time to test these.

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Some dude is selling a SHITTON of Konica VX 100 for cheap, expired from the 2000s.
I have to shoot it like a 50 Iso, right?
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>>4101031
lol my store let me buy their entire stock of superia 400 and asked for my number so they can let me know when they get other shit in
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>>4101106
I know that feel, I got a box of E100 sheets from the lab as compensation for them accidentally destroying my autumn slides and I just tossed them in the freezer knowing it'll be 6 months before it's even worth considering.
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CMS 20 le infinite resolution meme time

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>>4101176
>>4101180
I like these two alot anon. Might have to get some of that film at some point, interesting look to it. I've never shot anything that slow but I did just order some RPX25 in medium format.
>>4100867
Have you shot the Finesse at all? They don't have Extreme in stock. I wish theyd just say what the actual film stock is...
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>>4101292
Shit, sorry this keeps happening jannies. It must be an issue with gimp I think.
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>>4101293
If this doesnt work I'll just stick to screenshots to stop shitting up this thread. If anyone has any ideas as to what the issue is though, I'd appreciate some help. Im scanning with Vuescan, loading that .dng into gimp with Darktable, doing edits in gimp and then exporting, usually as a .png
I'll try jpgs, see if that helps at all. This didn't used to happen with epsonscan so I have no idea what I'm doing wrong here.

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>>4100183
you look and write like an insufferable faggot. your gf will leave you within 10 months. remember this post. gay lord
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Does anyone here have any experience with any of the Bronica SQ series cameras? I'm highly considering getting a SQ-A.
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>>4100396
I got the 7200 with Silverfast. It gives good quality scans. But the process is very slow.
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>>4101307
I have an S2A that has worked fairly well, but never tried an SQ. I know some people swear off electronics in cameras but from what I’ve seen it’s pretty simple inside.

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>>4101298
first you shouldn't be exporting as png because it's not an ideal format for photography. yes it's lossless, but you're not going to notice the difference between that and a high quality jpeg (11/12 or 12/12).
now for gimp. ensure you have color management enabled. then, before exporting, use Convert to Color Profile to convert the image to sRGB IEC61966-2.1. all images destined for internet consumption should be exported as sRGB.
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oof perfect timing just started doing my crappy ra-4 prints again

heres some from the city of bridges lemme know what u think

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>>4101587
i can get fuji 400 for like $8 a roll so been getting pretty good at guessing filter numbers on the first go with it

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>>4101588
got an old ez-ell or whatever, it's a pain in the ass to load. Probably going back to borderless after this.

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>>4101589
thats all i did last night. got a lot more film tho.

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japan goes hard

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>>4101588
PORT AUTHORITY
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>>4101590
burgh bro
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>>4101127
Impossible to know just from time.
If it was frozen all that time, it should be almost like new
If it was stored in a warm cupboard all that time, it will need like iso 6 if it can even record an image at all
Highly recommend buying one or two rolls and testing, keeping in mind it may be inconsistent between rolls.
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>>4101588
>>4101590
love this shit
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whats the most shock proof camera
want to take one with me on a motorcycle trip, i'll be putting it in a small pelican case but i want to be sure it won't break if/when it falls.
nikon f2 or f3?
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Konica SXG that expired in 2005, came out pretty good

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>>4101743
a plastic fantastic p&s or the one you have with you
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Just developed my first roll of b&w. It's pretty nice.

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>>4101752

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>>4101753

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>>4101752
how was the process? I'm thinking of getting into development too
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>>4101757
Hardest part for me was loading the film. I don't have a changing bag, and actually putting the film on the rolls is pretty finicky. The developing itself is extremely easy, you mix the chemicals, pour them in the tank and mix.
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>>4101750
yeah good point actually something throwaway like that would be good
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I'm trying to dial in my setup for DSLR scanning, it's as fun as it's annoying. One take away for now - I should get better macro extension tubes, or a proper macro lens with AF, macro is fun.

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>>4101777

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>>4101777
That looks pretty bad anon, ngl
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>>4099957
It has been almost a month since I dropped my films at the lab, haven't heard from them back yet, I am changing labs now
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>>4101779
yeah I know, I was just testing if it will work at all, shot handheld with fully open helios at the end of 5cm of extension tubes
I need to build myself a stand to hold both the light and the filmholder before even trying to dial the lens and such
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do you guys rate DOOMO light meter. Asking for a friend.
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>>4101777
Save yourself a lot of headache and just get a Nikon a es-2 if you're just scanning 35mm

About to dev a pano roll of xx wooo

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>>4101802
ive eying hedeco lime one because doomo is a cringe name
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>>4101752
nice shot

guys I bought too much film a couple years ago and now it's all expired/expiring :(

# B&W
* Delta 3200, exp 7/2022
* FP4+, ISO 125, exp 6/2024
* Delta 3200, exp 3/2021
* 2 x Tri-X 400, exp 8/2022, 11/2021

# Color
* 4 x Superia 400 36, exp 6/2021
* 2 x Superia 400 24, exp 2/2019
* 5 x Portra 400, exp 11/2022
* 5 x Portra 160, exp 10/2022
* Velvia 100, exp 1/2022
* Provia 100F, exp 2/2022
* Pro 400H, exp 7/2021
* Portra 800, exp 12/2022
* Ektar 100, exp 10/2022
* Ultramax 400, exp 2/2023
* Pro Image 100, exp ???
* Ektachrome E100, exp 10/2022

what do??? and it's cold out to boot
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>>4101812
I'm on Pentax with a k mount? can I adapt this?
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>>4101777
Better than AF is a way to hoick your camera up and down smoothly in precise steps so you can get focus exactly. I actually use a cheapo lightstand with a fitting so the camera points down. If I loosen one of the nuts I can slowly move up and down and lock it in place once I see sharp focus on the zoomed in view.

Your lens might also suck at high magnification but making sure it's in focus across the whole field is vital.

This was taken with my setup and I think it's at least on par with what a lab might give me, except also in RAW so a lot more malleable.
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>>4101820
sell it on ebay as a lot and laugh as people fight to pay for it as a meme expired bunch paying way more than they would if it was fresh. Then reinvest your dough in something nice for yourself.
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>>4101813
what is so cringe about it? They also sell film now too at less than Cinestill even though it is the same rerolled Kodak Vision with the remjet removed.
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>>4101821
It just screws into the front of your macro lens via 52mm filter screws.

Pano memes drying

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>>4101834
Does it work with an aps-c sensor? I have my trusty old D90 with a nikon 105mm D macro and was looking at that adapter.
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>>4101820
Freeze it?
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>>4101839
APSC / FF doesn't matter. Might need to get some filter spacers to hit focus distance while filling the frame with a long macro like a 105mm. Not totally sure, I use a 50mm macro on ff to scan.

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>>4101824
I have a tripod, I just need to build a fixture to keep the light steady and keep the filmholder in the same place throughout the shooting
>>4101834
that adapter seems to rely on some kind of software on nikon cameras? Are you using it with nikon or can you confirm it will work with any camera? My old k10d don't have no fancy software
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>>4101824
oh I probably should mention k10d doesn't have light preview on the screen, I have to look through the viewfinder so it's kinda inconventient, but once I'm done with the light table I'll see if the extra battery grip will maybe make it more convenient, if I fix that to the tripod I should have more space to look
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>>4101820
freeze it and when you wanna shoot let it sit for an hour or two in room temp
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>>4101844
>>4101854
the superia's been in the freezer. the rest has been in the fridge.
I've been reluctant to move it all to the freezer because I have the stupid thought "but what if I want to shoot it and I don't have time to wait for it to thaw. it must be ready."

>>4101849
as far as I know the nikon aspect is that you can produce jpeg scans in camera. no need to worry about that if you're going to shoot raw and do the processing on a PC.
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>>4101858
>what if I want to shoot it and I don't have time to wait for it to thaw. it must be ready.
it will be so long as you're careful to not snap it. if you are shooting on a manual advance slr you cant take it straight out the freezer, just advance slow and smooth
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>>4101849
It needs mo software at all. It's a simple, non-electronic attachment. Nike n probably has some automatic inverting software but I just use a Photoshop action to invert the scans on my PC. I scan using a Sony a7, canon 50 macro, and that Nikon adapter.

A few pano frames from today's dev sesh

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>>4101871
well then thanks for putting that on my radar
I'll check if I can get it on amazon or somewhere where I can get it, test it and return if I don't like it
for just a filter attachment it costs a pretty penny
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>>4101875
No problem. How effortless it makes scanning is worth the cost.

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>>4101592
I'm not a photography expert but it looks as if the image is too bright or bleached out or whatever.
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>>4101592
>>4101934
yeah green cast and too high a black point. here's a quick fix. (I'm not him)

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>>4100093
ilford darkroom tent dude. I mean I've never used one but look into it
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>>4100202
he means now that it's a negative anyway cause mistakes were made. May as well try to unfuck the scans, right?

>>4100184
what's with that woven texture?

>>4100239
I used to have a 400si. I still have it but it needs repair. It took nice photos.
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>>4100396
Does anyone have one of those PrimeFilm scanners that can automatically scan a whole roll? My problem with scanning is the time it takes. I don't mind spending my time developing but scanning makes me want to kill myself.
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>>4101942
dude, can you tell me exactly what you did here? Maybe even show me quickly what you could do with this photo of mine?
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>>4101820
If you have that much it should have been frozen, if I were you I'd just put them in the fridge/freezer and consider selling some of it
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>>4101829
i think doomo is a stupid name
plus, the hedeco lime one seems to have nicer controls and better accuracy
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>>4101743
Pelican case with good foam, it should be fine to drop a handful of times, If you are going off road I wouldn't take it, the vibrations will fuck up the mechanical pieces, road riding you should be gucci

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>>4101946
sure. so I used GIMP but you can do the same with photoshop or any photo editor.
open the image, go to Colors > Levels. you can see in the combined view, the black point is too high and the white point is too low. all the information in the image is contained in that area, so it ends up looking really low contrast. there's a color cast, too.
from here you can either do things manually by changing the Channel option to Red, Green, and Blue in turn and move the black point and the white point to where the data actually is in the image. or, to be quick and easy, just click Auto Input Levels and it'll do that for you. that's what I did for the japan photo. for your second photo, auto levels made it a bit too contrasty for me so I lowered the black point value by 4 in each channel and raised the white point value by 12 in each channel.
this also has the benefit of correcting the color cast. you can do finer corrections by playing with the values of each channel. for both these images, I think auto levels did a good job correcting the colors.
if you take this to an extreme, you can really do a lot to color correct an image. here's an alex burke video where he goes over a more complex (but similar in principle) process in photoshop. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylIyA6wQGcY
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>>4101946
and here's the finished product.

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>>4101987
here's what I did to my scan, what do you think?
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>>4101942
Sick job editing out the film colors
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>>4101997
this one is too cool and too magenta. try going off of something that you know should be neutral grey, like the guy's shirt on the bottom right.
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>>4099982
I have one that's adapted to my Mamiya 645, it weighs about as much as the camera body itself
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>>4102007
right, thanks for the advice anon
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>>4101440
Fair, I don't know why I thought that would be a good idea. Next time I scan color negatives I will do that, thank you for the advice anon.

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Used my Canon A1 for the first time in a while and I made a completely retarded mistake.
Forgot how to rewind the film and when I felt a little more tension than expected on the little turning knob thing I thought I had to pull at it to release the film canister which of course opened up the door. I instantly realized my mistake and shut the door closed but I don’t know if it fucked up the roll or not. The door didn’t open fully, just unlatched and I’m not entirely sure if it’s enough to let light leak through.
Door opens on the left side and the film fills up on the right.
Thoughts? Can it be saved? I’ve rolled up the film properly now but won’t be able to send it in to get developed for another week or so to find out if it’s fucked or not.
Also ECN2 film loads into a 35mm camera just like any other C41 right?
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>>4102019
Posting more cowboys
>>4100396
This is Delta400 on a Plustek 7600 if you want to see what faster film looks like on it
>>4101588
>>4101657
Port Authority

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>>4102020
I'd be very surprised if you didn't have light leaks, but you never know. They also might be localized to only some of the film depending on how bad it is. Maybe it'll look cool at least? I suppose if you're good with editin software you could recover it a bit. Might as well get it developed to check
>Also ECN2 film loads into a 35mm camera just like any other C41 right?
Yes. It will work in your camera the same as regular film, the remjet doesn't cause problems. But it will absolutely fuck up C41 machines, so do not send it to your average lab. Either homedev or send it to people who explicitly do ECN2.

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>>4102022
Done cowboy posting for now. Arizona is a strange place.
>>4101917
>>4101871
These are really cool

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>>4102021
are you sure this isnt over developed? these are great shots but the sky is rather dark and salt and peppered rather than the graduated look that a contrast filter gives,
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>>4101970
so an electronic plastic one if i'm going offroad?
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Bought a cheap rangefinder of dubious quality. Anyone got experience with these?
Also, how the fuck do I focus, is it just something you've got to get a feeling for?
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>>4102027
not that anon but at that time of day the sky can be quite dark, especially if you are facing away from the sun. If a yellow filter or similar was used as well that would explain it even more.
of course it could have also been over-developed but IME Delta 400 can come out quite differently depending on the developer. Rodinal and it's as grainy as you'd expect but a PQ-type developer and it's super fine.
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>>4102079
This is not a rangefinder, there's only a viewfinder window.
You will have to zone focus, so yeah, get a feeling for distances.
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>>4102079
Cmenas are not rangefinders ffs
It's a zone focus camera, you turn the rings on the lens and set it thusly. They are pretty ok for what they are.

How to focus? Turn the rings to roughly the distance you guess the subject is and set the aperture to determine the depth of field. The viewfinder is just for composing the frame and you won't be able to tell if the subject is in focus, you just have to wing it - it's pretty easy if you can read the markings on the lens
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>>4102084
>>4102085
>Viewfinder not rangefinder
Yeah, I get it, nerds.
Would you say these little guys on the lens are accurate enough? Or are there some common distances to remember? The lens is 40mm

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>>4102091
>Nerds
We're not nerds, it's just you who's a Numbers are dead accurate just remember top number is feet and the bottom is civilised world measurements, set the aperture with the iso on on the ring and the time as the pictures show and you're good to go, just be mindful of the depth of field you'll have to work with since you'll be adjusting the exposure with the shutter speed mostly before you figure out how to change aperture however you like and compensate for it
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>>4102027
Maybe? The negatives looked fine to me, but I did end up increasing the contrast in post. That could be it. I’ve never shot Delta 400 before so I’m not sure.
And thanks btw
>>4102081
It was in Ilfosol3 at 68 degrees for however long the massive devchart says. I didn’t have a filter on at all, I should probably learn how to use those properly. I had a sky filter but It was on my other lens. But yeah it was noon in the Arizona desert, the lighting was just harsh in general
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>>4102079
It's one of the few actually reliable Soviet cameras because it's so simple mechanically that even gulag slaves couldn't fuck it up. Focus is only by scale so you will have to guess the distance, but there was a separate rangefinder made for these cameras that goes in the cold shoe, just search for BLIK rangefinder on Ebay and you'll have a ton of them for practically nothing.

Pic related, one of my favorites taken with this thing.
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>>4101997
I'm who you were originally talking to, >>4102007 is not me just to be clear. but he's mostly right, for me it's a bit cool and the black point is too low, giving it a faded look. if that's what you want artistically, that's fine. but I'd probably go for a subtler color shift + fade if that were my goal.
>>4102004
lol please be a troll. you don't actually think a green cast and poorly set black & white points make "film colors".
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>>4102020
we've all probably done this. it's possible that the film that was rolled up more towards the inside is either fine or only will have light leaks around the top and bottom. the film that was towards the end of the roll is probably fucked. but it's still worth getting the roll developed and finding out.

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>>4102136
This is real nice. A gas station photo I actually like on its own merits.
Was the vignette natural or was it done in the scan/print? The halation is very nice in any case.
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>>4102136
That's pretty cool. I think I'm going to cop one of those rangefinders.
Beats having to guess the distance everytime. But that's probably something you get used to, right?
Love the pic. I think I'm going to stick a roll of bw film into the smena to try it out once the rangefinder gets here.
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>>4102136
massively based picture my finnish friend
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>>4101588
I like this picture. Am I gay?
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Why does the camera shop upload my pictures as BMP when they develop my film? Newlad here
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Does anyone have experience with modern shoe mounted light meters? Not looking for anything amazing but i want my shots to at least have a chance of being exposed right and my integrated light metre broke :/
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>>4102166
It's pretty much straight out of the scanner. Lens wide open so lots of bloom and other such things that come with a Soviet triplet lens.
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>>4102181
probably because they're using older equipment when .bmp was more common. a lot of film lab gear is old.
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>>4102190
Ok, thanks anon! They do a speedy turnaround, only a couple of hours for my first roll, so I’m not too upset. Should I start keeping my negatives? I just put the pictures on a hard drive at the moment.
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>>4102194
absolutely keep your negatives. that's part of the appeal of film photography. you can scan them with better equipment if you want at some point in the future. also, it's a physical record of the photo that was there with you when you took it, years later, which is just cool, y'know?
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Im going to Iceland this month and would like to attempt to get a photo of the northern lights, any recs on what film to use for something like this?
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>>4102203
provia 100f
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>>4100739
Where do you work mate? Giz us a discount
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>>4102136
this picture would be a million times better without the store in the background, it adds nothing and is distracting, so remove it. if you're a film purist, do it in the darkroom.
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Anybody else shoot in London?

What is your favourite area to shoot in?
Personally have gotten so bored of shooting around the same old places and now it is getting dark at 4pm isnt helping matters.

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>>4102213
couldn't help myself
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>>4102079
These are fun to use

Pace away from your subject and learn to use the DOF scale. Get used to going out on sunny days and doing long exposures.

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>>4102196
Yeah I get you. A cool memento. They’ll give me the negatives all ready to store in a folder or something right? I live in the tropics, any storage drama there?
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>>4102020
I had the door pop open and it was salvageable. But it was at night under streetlights.

>>4102064
no, the electronic p&s cameras are pretty fragile and expensive. If you drop it it could very well break and it'll be fucked, and that's one less camera on the market. I would assume the F2 and F3 would be far more durable but I'd also consider a fixed focus reloadable disposable type camera for snapshits. if it breaks it breaks and you can get a new one cause they make them new.

>>4102160
no, I don't want a faded look. Personally, yours looks a tinge too yellow for me, but mine is much more blue than yours is yellow. And my biggest problem with mine is it feels very flat and faded which I do not like at all. Yours has a much better clarity. I'll try to raise the black point even more on mine and fix the color cast. This was me pushing superia 400. Not sure if it was worth it.

Also agreed on the other post, lol if he thinks a shitty scan is "film colors".
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>>4102225
depends on the lab. Some local labs just cut and sleeve them and put them into a little folder, when I mail them out I ask them back uncut. Then I cut and sleeve them into a standard sized 3 ring binder using print-file 35mm archival sheets.
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>>4102229
Am I fucking up just taking my films into the local camera shop and having them develop them?
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>>4102232
not if they do a good job and you're happy with it

if I don't have multiple rolls to develop at once the shipping costs outweigh the savings of mailing it to a cheaper lab. Last time I waited till I had 4 or 5 rolls to send and by the time I got my shit back 3 weeks later, I had just barely broken even vs. the local lab price and also I had to wait, well, 3 weeks. Next time I finish a single roll I'll just bring it in to my lab and that way I can pick it up the next day.
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i have 4 rolls to develop but i cba until ive posted everything i have online on my insta
am i the cancer killing film photography?
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>>4100536
I got 5 rolls of their first batch and really loved it.

Couple of warnings/notes:

Some people find it needs more exposure than its 80iso box speed (+1/2 or +2/3 stops seems to be the average, although I got normal looking results at box speed).

It has quite low red sensitivity compared to modern Ilford or Kodak emulsions, so your reds will come out a bit darker. This also impacts using orange or red filters for skies.
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>>4102258
did you use a tripod for 80?
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>>4102136
Quite kino
>>4102160
Maybe a troll, maybe a retarded zoomer. I've seen the sentiment a lot on tiktok, people who unironically enjoy their color balance being completely fucked.
>>4102232
No, it's just expensive. If you shoot a lot it adds up quickly, and personally I find developing at home to be pretty fun. I wouldn't do it for like a professional shoot or something though. Just make sure you get your negatives back for storage and safekeeping.
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>>4102079
Smena and Chaika and all the goofy mass market Russian cameras will make you an infinitely better photographer. You will learn to guess distances, you will learn both depth of field and critical focus based on feel, you will learn to frame in that awkward ass viewfinder window, and you will learn to nail exposure.
The USSR/Cominform attitude towards the photography hobby is the total opposite of "press the button and we do the rest" Kodak BS, It's much more "here are a bunch of settings on a plastic box, you figure it out nigger".

You can still see the cavernous gap in experimentation that this created between those cultures. Eastern bloc niggas are developing orwochrome slides with custom chemistry and shooting on preflashed aerial film with enlarger lenses that only focus on bellows, meanwhile westoids ask what lightroom preset will save their botched crossprocess c22 negatives.
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>>4102160
Neither the original or your edit looks correct, lol.
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>>4102328
Eastern bloc fags were just not advanced enough. They definitely wanted better equipment. But they couldn't make anything but copies of cameras they stole form germans in the 40s until they stole better equipment from japanese tourists in the 70s.
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>>4102330
I mean yes, but the anon was referring that being limited makes you actually learn how to do things and breeds creative solutions.

Soviet cameras are unreliable, have lots of quirks and sometimes they are just plain bitch to use.

But I still like them.
t. Chaika shooter
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>>4102330
apples to oranges and therefore the most illiterate part of this post. When burgers had kodak brownie and later instamatic with one shutter speed and fixed focus and fixed aperture, even the basic Smena cameras were pro tools by comparison. 21 million of Smena 8m alone were produced.
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>>4102334
They are still just terrible versions or modifications of early german cameras. Fuck, they're getting more expensive than some old german cameras. Just wait for the hipsters to move on to agfa/ansco, in the meantime buy an agfa/ansco. I'd say the kodak approach leads to better photographers anyways. Less gear worries, more content.
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>>4102335
Redpill me on agfa, this thread is making me curious about euroshit cameras.
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>>4102213
It's just a snapshit, who the hell cares?
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>>4102347
Think of how basic and awkward soviet cameras are. Now imagine that, but actually built like a tank. The interchangeable lens one is still sorta cheap.

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>>4102349
Love my shitty Vitoret DR like you wouldn't believe it, I am gonna get a Ansco box just for the lulz.
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>>4101301
Sad but based but sad but based.
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I've been looking at agfa isolettes recently. They seem like a nice entry point into medium format. What's the /p/erdict?
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>>4102436
Cons: A lot of things to be broken, a very few speeds, dark lens, no viewfinder, rough focusing.
Pros: size.
I would recommend TLR instead.
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found dad's old camera while looking for stuff. is this small shit worth investing? since i am a zoomer i dont really know much about films, how can i get them to digital? do i need a scanner or can i use some kind of phone app to get them? i want to get into photography so starting from this would be a good idea?

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>>4102446
1. Just put batteries and the film roll inside. This plastic piece of shit will make everything else.
2. Send the film to the lab and ask to develop and scan it.

That's all for now.
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>>4102453
thanks for the response i didnt expect there would be places that still support films and stuff.
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>>4102436
Maybe look for a camera called WZFO AMI 2
It's a very basic 6x6, Ami has two aperture settings and one shutter speed, Ami 2 has like 3 or 4 speeds + B but also same aperture as Ami 1 I believe.
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>>4102455
>see big ass thread of people discussing film cameras and posting photos with such cameras
>I didn't expect there would be places that still support film

why are zoomers so retarded
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>>4102574
i live in 3rd world country so i didnt expect shops to still support it i bet it will be costy to get them to digital but i still find it pretty fun.
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>>4102688
meds
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some of my prints
1/3

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>>4102719
2/3

Burned some brighter spots (leaves iirc) during development.

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>>4102720
3/3

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>>4101678
was there for the cadwallader reunioon show.
fun time

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>>4102785
Impressively shitty exposur on this one

Coulda done one dodging the shade i guess but I don't like this shot enough to waste the chems on it. Still have a bunch of friends to do.

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>>4102720
>>4102719
Genuinely kino anon, especially the second one. I'm about to go back to my uni dark room in a day or two.
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>>4102795
Thanks, it's a crop from a much larger negative. Hope you're going to have fun.

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I am really going to start shooting BW only on film. I never like my results in color.

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>>4102940
Fucking captcha

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>>4101777
tried the holder for medium format today, I need to figure out some additional flattening solution but the results are better than the previous try SOOC imo
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>>4102948
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>>4101777
What are you using for a light source? Looks pretty soft
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>>4102951
the sun in the afternoon. I took it out because it was blooming and wanted to take some pics on film & digital.
Negatives look tad sharper.
This image is somewhat distorted (as you can probably see). Once I have the scanning dialed in I'll shoot it again for comparison.
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>>4102954
No, i mean for scanning.
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>>4102963
RALENO-PLV-S116 led light
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>>4102941
spoopy prison

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>>4101301
You will fail your next 4 rolls, have a good one to give you hope again then fail 10 more. And one of your cameras will break.
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>>4102972
do you look like this?
if you want to cast an evil eye on somebody maybe /x/ should be your board lmao
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Look guys! I did a Moriyama!

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>>4102940
>>4102941
What are you using to scan film? If you're using a shitty scanner like me (I have the V600) that could be the reason why you don't like your results because the Epson adds some weird colored noise due to it's low resolution.

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>>4102981
I have no idea, they were scanned at the lab that I use frequently.
Is the V600 bad? it looks like the only option out there, I know that there are other scanners but I am planning to shoot medium format at some point so those sliding scanners are not an option I guess.
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Bought an Ilford Sprite to learn to take-a da picture, any tips?
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>>4103085
use the flash unless you're outside in the sun
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do i meter different for 120 film?
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>>4103119
Great tip thanks mate!
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>>4102940
>>4102941
these are just absolutely terrible quality scans. that's probably the source of your dissatisfaction.
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>>4103120
no
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A surprise find!
bought an old commie medium format and when I opened it there was a roll of 120 film labeled FOTON Fotopan FF in it.
it appears to have been fully shot but it wasn't fully rolled back so I suppose I might have exposed the final shot of the roll to the light since I wasn't expecting it to be loaded, but nevermind that.
The film is obviously finito, it was so stiff it couldn't be rolled with the forwarding knob at all so I went to a dark room, unloaded it and rolled properly.
Now the question is how do I go about developing this?
As far as I can tell from my 5 minutes of googling its a black and white film and probably made between the 1970 and 1990. I normally use Fomadevs XTOL and I planned to do one more tank with it and make fresh one so it would be a good chance to try it but I can't tell or find what were the development recipes for it originally.
Any ideas how to develop expired mystery film?
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>>4103215
It's polish 50 ASA film made till mid-80's.
Don't expect much, they are not as tough as ORWO stuff - probably stand dev in rodinal will gibe "best" results.
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>>4103220
Also - here is original instruction with recommended developer recipe - i can translate it if you want

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>>4103215
ok managed to find the leaflet for it
it can be developed in "all commonly used developers" but they recommend their own HYDROFEN FOLTON W-17 or N10 along with the recipe for it.
Can be fixed in "any acidic fixer" so it essentially fits the fomadevs profile, even the devtimes are not that far off.
Should it be developed longer/shorter/etc now that it is possibly 50 years expired?
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>>4103222
I was about to post it myself. I speak polish so it's no problem other than picking the chemistry - I think I'll use my almost used up XTOL - and time
I don't expect anything but I'd lie if I'd say I would be disappointed if I pulled out film that was completely black or just clear after dev.
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I need to be more careful taking out the film next time, but the camera's working at least.

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>>4103215
Rodinal stand dev.
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>>4103128
Yeah, looking close at it I think that is.
Any rec for a nice scanner?
>>4102981
Commented having the V600 and not being that great. Since I am planning to shoot medium format too I would need a flatbed one.
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>>4103226
Now I need to practice more to get the hang of focusing, depth of field and so forth, and I might get somewhere with it. Eventually.

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>>4103246
Jesus dude turn off the unsharp masking in scanner, that shit is scratching my monitor.
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>>4103243
the best scanner is a digital camera with a light stand, film holder, light, and macro lens. if you scroll up in the thread, people were also talking about using a Nikon film scanning lens adapter, although I don't think that works for medium format.
I use negative supply gear, but it's not the most affordable. there are some cheaper options too. the Pixl-Latr and Essential Film Holder are others.
V600 is "okay" I guess for medium format but is shit for 35mm. you're better off with a camera scanning setup.
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>>4103270
just use kodak mobile film scanner bro
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>>4103270
>I use negative supply gear, but it's not the most affordable. there are some cheaper options too. the Pixl-Latr and Essential Film Holder are others.
I use a piece of cardboard out of which I've cut a just over 36x24mm hole. You really don't need any fancy overpriced 3D printed gear to do DSLR scanning.
I originally used a holder designed for a flatbed scanner but I found raising the film above the light table caused reflections. Now I just drag it along the table surface. It doesn't seem to cause any scratches.
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>>4103243
In my opinion you should ditch scanners altogether because the ones that gives good results costs several thousands. Get yourself a nice DSLR scanning setup. Get a 20MP+ camera.
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>>4103270
>>4103307
My only digital camera is a Panasonic M4/3. Would that work good enough?

If so I am gonna pick this kit from aliexpress, I was planning to get a second hand scanner anyway.
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>>4103316
>My only digital camera is a Panasonic M4/3. Would that work good enough?
Yeah it'll work wonders. I got a zoom slide duplicator a couple days ago myself, that kit you picked requires a good macro lens with next to no field curvature, wouldn't recommend unless you already have that.
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>>4101944
nice happy to hear about the minolta
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point and shoot film
was fun but dont think ill do that again. so many pics were wasted/ are bad
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Alright ladies and gentlemen then only thing stopping me now from printing 8x10s are paper chems and making my room light proof

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>>4103356

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>>4103356
shitty 5x7s I made a while back in my bathroom

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>>4103364
it was alot worse

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>>4103356
SOUL
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>>4103323
>zoom slide duplicator
HOLY SHIT
that looks exactly like what I need, thanks man! gonna pick one of those.
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Guys I need a rec over here.
I have a Zenit TTL and while I love the piece of shit since it was my first camera, it has been becoming more and more unreliable even after servicing it. So I am looking for a new camera, my only need for it is that is a M42 mount to use the lens that I already have. I was looking at a Praktica LB. Are those any good?
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>>4103420
Prakticas are the only dependable Eastern bloc cameras, Zenits were manufactured by Soviet slave labor with no quality standards and have always been pure meme cameras. You should try to find the MTL5b because it has a CdS light meter that uses modern LR44 batteries. M42 system is also where you can find a ton of cheap ass Japanese cameras under many different brand names and rebadged Prakticas selling for pennies, like Cosina, Chinon, Carena, Porst, Revue etc. All of them are better than the Zenit. Pentax Spotmatic is the one to avoid simply because due to being a hipster meme for a long time they are vastly overpriced, however Fujica and Yashica M42 bodies are still surprisingly cheap. Can't really go wrong with any of them.
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>>4103436
>the only dependable Eastern bloc cameras
Kiev SLRs with F mount are great and reliable
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>>4103445
I wouldn't trust anything from Arsenal to work properly or reliably, although it's still better than KMZ.
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All the printing in this thread has inspired me. Mostly just snapshits of my brother as a Christmas gift for mom but still. Forgot how fun this is. I’d have preferred to do it on campus but they’re being fucking weird

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>>4103356
You people really live like this.
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>>4100189
Tf is this haloing
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>>4103462
>I wouldn't trust anything from Arsenal
I wouldn't trust Kiev 88/60/6c neither, but SLRs are really good.
Have nothing to say about RF Kievs though.
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>>4101307
Amazing camera, optics and very affordable.

There is also a GS-1 that is similar but it shoots 6x7
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>soviet cameras were made by slave labor!!!
Only the FEDs
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what went so wrong with my first astrophotography attempt?

I used a minolta srt 201 and kodak t max p3200
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>>4103607
It doesn’t look like it’s focused to infinity for one. There also might be a bit of light pollution? I recently tried to do some light trail photography and that was the biggest thing I had trouble with. I need to go farther out away from my house I think.
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I started posting to tiktok. I feel sick. But I want social media influencer money to pay for film.
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>>4101307
I've had my SQ-A since 2005. Hasn't missed a beat. Great cameras that everyone sleeps on. I could've 'upgraded' to a Hasseblad long ago but never saw the point. The lenses are fantastic and most are only $100-$200/ea. 120 backs and the waist level finder are fucked up expensive to buy separately. Best to get a kit that has the accessories you want and then buy whatever additional lenses you want individually.
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>>4103765
mini dump of stuff i shot in the late 2000s with it. sry for the low res and shit scans.

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and one from this night >>4103765 a few years ago

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>>4103765
How "worth it" over a 35mm is it to you?
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>>4103767
>>4103768
I like these two a lot.
>>4103765
does the SQA have a light meter? Bronicas are great in general, I feel like the Hasselblad obsession is way overblown.
>>4103792
Not that guy but I like medium format more for intentional shooting. If I'm going out to do portraits or landscape shooting and I know I'll be able to take my time, I prefer it. The negatives are about 4 times as big as 35mm, so if you want big scans or big prints it's arguably worth it. But film is of course much more expensive on a per shot basis.
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I won the auction for a camera on November 1st, the guy shipped it the 6th. Then I got a tracking number for it on the 10th, which only says "tracking number created" and nothing else. It's still not here and every time I email the guy he just says sometimes it takes a while for international and won't explain what's going on with the tracking number.

It's a few days past the expected delivery window so I could ask for a refund but I'd rather just have my camera. It's only $80 so it seems like a weird scam, if that's what it is. Anyone have ideas?
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>>4103815
Tbh the only time I was scammed was for a pittance, like 15 dollars worth. I think it's because you're more likely to just get over it instead of trying to report it or get your money back.
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scanned with a pixel 4a using kodak mobile film scanner and a shitty laptop ips monitor for backlight
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>>4103792
I like using my Bronica a lot and really enjoy square format. That's worth it for me. I take zero advantage of the extra resolution 120 gives over 35mm. I still shoot way more 35mm than 120.

>>4103812
Thanks! You can get a prism with a meter built in. I prefer using a wlf so I never looked into getting one.

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>>4103819
>use a shitty phone camera to scan negatives
my man that is like converting an mp3 to flac
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>>4103890
Do you mean flac to MP3?
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>>4103890
>to poor to afford dslr+lens
>to poor to afford a scanner
>cant justify the cost to have labscans
a mans gotta do what a mans gotta do
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>>4103904
Based.
Try using a phone as a background, worked well for me (used an iPhone SE).
That said you're arguably too poor to shoot film in the long run.
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>>4103917
not really though, i shoot like 6-8 rolls a year of fomapan and thats pretty ok costwise
i dont have two phones
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>>4103929
cut a hole in a board and put a desk lamp under that
phone screen is really the least desirable kind of light
it's ok enough to get a sense of what are you looking but no more
or at least get a diffuser sheet to put between the screen and the film to stop seeing the pixels
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>>4103904
desu I got better scans with canon a480 I got for a $10, but the light source is key
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>>4103819
This will work much better if you bring the film ~1/2" or more away from the screen so you don't get the display pattern

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>>4104009
>for rectal use only
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>>4103349
What film stock?
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>>4103372
>>4103365
Are you using contrast filters?
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>>4104355
>>4104355
>>4104355
NEW
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>>4103607
the moon is sunny 16. You overexposed it. And it looks out of focus a little too but I'm not sure. You don't need 3200 speed film for the moon, it being so grainy probably doesn't help here.



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