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All video related questions and discussion is intended for this thread. Here we discuss techniques, gear and anything else related to capturing video footage. Please don't pretend to be an expert if you don't know what you're talking about. Kindly leave your ego at the door.
Posting short films/scripts or other work you've done is encouraged.
We tend to use and recommend DSLRs/mirrorless cameras because they provide phenomenal picture quality for their price, have large sensors (ie the same size used in high-end cinema cameras and higher) and have interchangeable lenses.
In contrast, consumer camcorders normally have much smaller sensors and a fixed lens.

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Previous thread >>4085831

Quick FAQS
>what’s the best camera available on a “budget”?
The blackmagic pocket cinema camera 4k
>>what’s a good beginner video camera?
Anything that works, shoots at least 1080p and preferably has interchangeable lenses. Any recommendation beyond that will cause arguments so read the fucking sticky if that isn't satisfactory.
>Can I use a zoom lens for video?
Yes
>Do I need cine lenses?
No
>Do I need 4k?
No. It will make your footage look sharper if it’s in focus, and it gives you breathing room in post. But 1080p is still absolutely fine
>Can someone tell me if my video is any good?
Yes, but be prepared to receive harsh criticism. If you're going to waste 5 minutes of our time with a shitty out-of-focus montage of nothing then we'll tell you that it's crap
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first reply, I just broke this thread's hymen. Anyone else who posts after me is getting my sloppy seconds, my leftovers.

Just remember that the first reply is the most special reply and you'll never experience this thread the way I did and this thread will never feel the way it felt about me about you.

It's Over ,you might as well just go post on Reddit and talk about how much of a "man" you are for replying on a thread that I pump and dumped. Have fun with my scraps, cucks
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>>4095075
hey /vid/ help me up my camera/lens game please.

I've made some projects on terrible 8bit footage and I'm pretty proud of that (Rebel t100).
I'm also slowly working on a digicam video (powershot a540) and working out ideas for a few shorts with the iPhone 14 pro.

I like shooting with these but I also want to make stuff that PRETENDS to be cinema. I'm interested in anamorphic stuff and serious grades, shooting RAW etc.

Now I can choose between a heavily discounted GH6/S1/S5. The gh6 and s1 are the same price. The S5 would save me a cool $400 or so.

When I watch "pro" GH trailers, a lot of them can't keep a consistent look from one scene to the next. Like the operator can't handle the camera or he's using very mixed lenses.

S1 videos sometimes do this but they're usually consistently good or consistently bad.

It makes it look like MFT is less forgiving than FF. Idk, right now I'm leaning towards FF since I think I can easier get away with gimmick lenses like cheapo anamorphics, vintage garbage etc.
I'm not averse to buying/renting quality stuff but will M4/3 lock me into buying very high quality glass so my image doesn't look like a smartphone?

idk /vid/ help me. why does so much GH footage look like garbage compared to S footage? I've seen the GH line do really nice stuff, but even those same directors seem to barely have a handle on it.
I think it may just be user error since the BMPCC gang is usually more consistent too.

right now I'm leaning towards FF since it doesn't require a $500 speedbooster just to make certain lenses viable.
but the GH6 internal recording is no joke. and I don't think I want to use an external recorder on EVERY project.

tl;dr: MFT vs FF, money is the same. until the lens buying comes into play. wtf do I do? I feel like either one would unlock a lot of creative options for me.
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Is it worth it to invest in a tilt-shift lens for videography?
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>>4095080
> I broke this threads hyman; I broke this cherrie

This thread is the only hyman/cherrie that you’ll ever break, you incel.
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>>4095153
worth what
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>>4095169
The canon l series tilt shift lenses cost over 2k per lens and I was wondering if it was worth it for video work.
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>>4095203
do you need tilt for what you do? or shift? if not then it might be not worth it I guess
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI9pzsCKLrA

Here is a short film I made with no script or budget. please let me know what you all think.
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The camera is my paintbrush.
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>watch my old showreel from more than 5 years ago
>expect it to be really cringeand embarrassing
>tfw I see all the avant-garde techniques and raw personality that shows through - that I've somewhat lost over the years
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>>4095301
critique:
>end credits in the beginning
>intro shot. cameras just darting around the city, maybe just a long slow sweep instead.
>55 seconds in. echo-y. invest in some decent sound equiptment. sounds like it was recorded on the onboard mic of my t6i
>1:45. pull the couch off the wall. scene became flat
>2 min in. holy shit the intro music is still playing??
>dudes dialogue is bad
the good
>the camera movements and cinematography are good
>shot with girl in mirror and dude leaning on door is pretty great
>pointing the gun at the door while dude is talking is also great

ending was eh,

you can roast me if ya want. this is my second 'film'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaQyTYIyNZU
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>>4095364
>>4095301

Hey, at least you two actually made something.
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>>4095364
>just watched your film
Wait and in the end he just gets shot?? xD
I didnt really get the story and the beach scene were he just freaks out is a bit to long imo.. i still really liked it!
Can you also post your first film pls?
I havent really made a "film" that i can post... i made a carporn a while a go but nothing really special
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>>4095632
>freaks out a bit to long
>disjointed
agree! i just did cameras for this short. i didnt direct or write the dialogue. i suggested additional and alternate dialogue that wouldve made a little more sense. an escape boat needed to be mentioned during he gun loading shot and because it wasnt made the empty beach reveal confusing and flat.
>first film
gonna cost you .99 cents on amazon prime (pic rel)
https://www.amazon.com/Slaindeer-Buck-Future-Nathan-Lipor/dp/B08J7D7LWY
dont let the 4 star rating fool you, those are just cast and crew reviews.. i was main camera operator/ cinematographer/ best boy..
also, filming this movie was the most fun ive ever had.
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>>4095632
>>4095637
music video i shot, nothing impressive. just tripod shots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eivsx2yy-U8
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>>4095364
>end credits in the beginning
You proved to know nothing about film in the very first line, buddy
But in short films one should always avoid putting those early as every second counts in the intro.
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>>4095701
>says i know nothing
>agrees with my critique
wut?
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Having a crisis. I love the form factor of the new X-T5, minus the cucked old EVF they kept for it.

I want the video features of the X-H2, I think it would be powerful to have something that could do prores recording internally, and I hate the idea of using a big fussy video rig. Like the only thing I’d like to have is a preamp and/or microphone on top. But I also hate the flippy screen of the X-H2.

Should I get the XT-5 since I’d like it more as a camera and then get an external recorder if I really wanted to do video on good codecs? Or accept the change of the X-H2? I really dont like PASM. I’ve looked up specs of many external recorders and they’re not even that good.

I am mainly a stills photographer but want to start doing more video. All other specs being the same, would a piece of film recorded on h.265 be lower quality than something initially recorded as prores? Am i over thinking anything?

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>>4095706
Your critique is wrong and retarded because they are not called end credits, you outed yourself as a shit eater quickly by using dumb terms.
My point was different from yours.
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>>4095738
>But in short films one should always avoid putting those early
senpai, this is what i said. your being willfully ignorant and oddly confrontational.
why are you white knighting >>4095301
so hard?
also, i dont see your videos posted here.
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>>4095736
What kind of video do you want to do? Also post some stills, bub.
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>>4095756
I live on the West Coast so I’d like to get some videos of surfers, but also consider nature videos and glamour reel type videos of models I shoot with too.

Here’s an older pic of mine from the X-T1

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>accidentally catch the attention of a local politician (to be) by pure chance
>he wants me to work on his campaign
>theoretically it would be a dream job
>he's super busy at the moment for obvious reasons
>desperately trying to reign in my autism/adhd to not come across as needy/unhinged/schizo and seem professional
>feel like I'm 5 seconds away from being found out at any given moment
>anxiety going nuts
anyone else just fucking hate being alive sometimes?
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talk me out of buying an andycine c7
(I don't need a recorder)(yet)
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>>4095875
Yes, but for completely different reasons.
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>>4095876
identical chinkshit to the feelworld lut7 I had till it broke
it's trash
save up for a shinobi 7
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>>4095886
explain to the folks at home how you broke your feelworld lut7
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>>4095889
I didn't
the hdmi input is constructed so poorly it popped right off the circuit board after less than half a year of plugging and unplugging because it's mounted nowhere and just held in place by the solder
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>>4095875
You are doing better than I am. I am pretending to be hired by people because all of the people I work for aren’t filming stuff because of lockdowns. I am pretending to be hired to do jobs so I can buy gear without my wife getting angry at me. Pretending to be other people is not good for my mental health but playing with new gear that I’ll end up using once all the lockdowns end and my clients need me again is very good for my mental health.
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>>4095952
>lockdowns
are you in china?
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>>4095965
> Lockdowns. Are you in China?

No I am in New York. Democrats suck. I hope a red wave washes away all of the lockdowns on the 8th of November.
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>Record in h.265 codec all intra
>Transcribe into appropriate prores at home
>edit in prores
>export in h.265

Is this a good workflow? Would I have the same quality as if I had recorded in prores in the first place?

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smoeone explain why can't I just change white balance instead of using an IR cut filter?

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>>4096080
if u would end in h.265 anyway, the prores steps in between shouldn't be an issue.

idk if there's a better flow but quality should be fine as long as your chosen prores is sufficient for the material
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>>4096099
Thanks. There are guides for choosing the right ProRes for the resolution and bitrate and if all else fails I could just choose the highest quality one.
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>>4096100

You do not need to choose the highest quality one. 4444XQ and 4444 is super, hyper overkill for the stuff you will most likely do.

You'll most likely do absolutely fine with Prores 422, or Prores 442 LT. Maybe Prores 442 HQ. Tho why bother with that when most likely you won't utilize the quality and if the point is just using it as a proxy, then just use Prores 442 proxy
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>>4096097
Some things get purple but other things do not. Some but not all blacks are near white in IR.
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What are you people using for audio recorders? I'll only be using one input, but I might need more inputs in the future. I also need phantom power. I'm not sure what to get.
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>>4096237
Mixpre 10 mk2
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>>4095974
>New York
Close enough lmao.
>>4096237
I have a large arsenal of Zoom recorders or varying quality
, someday I will achieve lectrosonics and sound devices
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When making a film as this comes with the compromise of filmmaking, you have to make your film as cheap as you possibly can with the least amount of people involved in it. I know you all may give examples like Zack Synder who pushed 300 to it's maximum, but most of us if we do get successful have to turn movies like 300 from a 200,000,000 dollar budget into a 500,000 dollar budget. It may cheapen things, but filmmaking is an interactive art form like live theater is. Even when the Avengers was being made there interaction needed to convince the actors to believe that this wire on their leg in the blue screen room would be enough to secure them when they fall down.
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>>4096268
You have to as well make a film in as short of a time as possible.
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>>4095122
there is someone selling new s5s on ebay for $1300. I just bought one. Just FYI is doesn't have a lowpass filter, but it has a ton of features of the higher end model.
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>>4095301
the actual way you filmed it seems well done. I don't know a lot about cinematography, but it definitely seems like you are on the right track. The panning, angles, framing is all good.

The acting is not good, but you can tell what is happening with the sound turned off, and it's hard to ask for a lot more in a short video like this.
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>>4096272
Be very careful buying cameras on eBay. A lot of sellers will take your money and not send you a camera. PayPal is good and will refund your money when this happens to you. Or they’ll just send you an empty box.
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>>4096315
interesting. I have heard there are a lot of scammers on Ebay now. I've been using it for 20 years and I've never had a problem.

Paypal is asshole and I don't use them.

I do use a credit card though.

I already received the camera and it was what I expected.
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>>4096325
You sound like scummy ebay seller, no kidding. Post camera.
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>>4096272
thanks for the tip anon
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>>4095122
> terrible 8bit footage
What made it terrible? Yes, it’s limited in grading but it’s not the end of the world. I’ve made 8Bit footage look good and so have countless others.

> anamorphic stuff and serious grades, shooting RAW etc.
One could argue that doing a minimal grade with quick turn around is more advantageous then shooting all this data on raw and spending ages grading it. IMO don’t worry about that atm and just get something 10 bit if you want to play around. Its not going to make or break you stuff, going out and making things is what’s important. Fuck up learn some lessons and go do it again. Also just shoot with 2.40:1 bars for now before buying anamorphic shit.

> GH6/S1/S5
I looked into the S5 before I bought my camera and it’s a great option. FF, 10bit, 2 card slots, shutter angle and I think a Pro Res Raw. I really should have gotten the S5 and am still on the fence if I should have.

> When I watch "pro" GH trailers, a lot of them can't keep a consistent look from one scene to the next. Like the operator can't handle the camera or he's using very mixed lenses.
This is a bizarre observation. Colour not matching is usually lighting or WB related. Nothing to do with handling the camera or swapping lenses.
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>>4096402
>I’ve made 8Bit footage look good and so have countless others.
I definitely agree, as long as you're careful about your scene and know a lot about what's in front of the lens.
The footage was only a problem in my case because the camera doesn't offer any flatter profiles, the codec is very subpar and the noise starts to become a color-shifting problem around ISO 800.
I didn't buy the camera for video so I'm not complaining, just looking to expand.
After learning some more I'm definitely agreeing that RAW is kind of overkill.

>Also just shoot with 2.40:1 bars for now before buying anamorphic shit.
I've come to a similar conclusion after researching a lot of the options. I really like the look but a lot of the budget options kind of suck. I'd like to rent good anamorphics some day tho so it's good to have those features in camera.

>I really should have gotten the S5 and am still on the fence if I should have.
What are you shooting with now?
I'm borrowing a GH6 at the moment to see what I think. Lots of options, bells and whistles that impress me coming from my super low budget.
I've wanted an S5 since forever but the codecs don't match what the sensor is capable of. If you want the quality you're paying for, your only choice is to use an external recorder and then you can only shoot RAW, which I don't always want to do.
SO the GH6 is really selling me on internal ProRes. I think it would make editing a lot funner.
I also think telephoto shots are some of the most interesting you can viably get in a no-budget film and those are much cheaper to achieve on M4/3.
So it's just these 2 things holding me back from FF.
But I do really like the IBIS as well.

>Colour not matching is usually lighting or WB related.
Not color but things like oversharpening and highlight rolloff, sometimes they seem to be a problem and sometimes there's no visible problem at all.
I'm still on the fence about this. I think I'd still be fighting those on FF so..
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>>4096315
Doesn’t ebay refund you your money?
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>>4096577
Yes eBay refunded me but it is very annoying when it happens. It happens way too often.
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>>4096426
How did you find that movie?
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I keep hearing the term "offline edit" and I think it has something to do with proxy files.
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>>4096659
desu it's been so long that I can't even remember the name of it.
I know I found it because the film's DP had impressed me on a different movie
I remember being crazy about the scene that I posted and there was an adjacent composition with those cabinets above him.
what's the name of it tho? now I'm trying to remember
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>>4096813
it does
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>>4096625
It just happened to me. I will probably never use ebay again. My package had a double label and was seized by thepostal inspection service. My box weighed 1 ounce. The camera was supposed to weigh 2.73 pounds

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HOW THE FUCK DO YOU HANDLE FOCUS IN FILMMAKING?

I AM GOING INSANE, I HAVE FUCKED UP MY FOOTAGE
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>>4097114
Did you get your money back?
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>>4097138
two options
>git gud
>get an ac who's gud
Ideally you want both because you can't always pull focus yourself
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>>4097141
>>git gud
How? Come on man tell me few exercises or some shit. I am trying my hand at indie one fag army documentary with poorfag setup, mic on dslr and a 50 with an ND, that's it.

What do?
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>>4097155
>What do?
get a monitor large enough to see something and use focus peaking
and then just shoot lots of stuff
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>>4097155

Not him, but if you are pulling yourself:

-"Muscle memory". If you are pulling with a manual follow focus, really go beyond "memorizing" the way the focus works. Just keep pulling and pulling until it becomes something you don't even have to think. You know instantly in which direction to rotate the focus wheel. Do this with various apertures to get a feel for it. Do it with different focal lengths also and see how that works.
- Put your camera on a tripod (or handheld) in a large-ish space or outdoors. Put different objects into the space. Some close to the camera, some in middle of the room, some far behind. Use a tape measure to measure the distance from the sensor plane to the different objects. Then try to pull accurate focus to the different objects in the room based on just the distance. The more you do it, the more you'll start to understand distances which helps you with focusing.
- Your lenses have to be manual or they have to have a setting that allows you to set them to have a linear response to pulls. If they are fly by wire only, you will never replicate accurate focus pulls and you are just fighting against the lens. No matter how accurate you are, it doesn't matter because the lens just won't co-operate with you.
- Focus peaking can help and some people rely on it. Depending on your camera/monitor it might be a good solution. I use it occasionally on the slowest setting if I am shooting on my own, but I have to say that I don't like relying on it. Digital zoom in focus is good for static shots, interviews and stuff like that.

I work as a 1st and 2nd ac as a cinematographer, trying to move into becoming a cinematographer full time. You'll get good, pulling focus is very hard, it is one of the hardest jobs on set when the action has been yelled out (boom operator is another hard as hell job).
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>>4097155
try constantly guessing how far something is from you, then measure it with the lens's distance markings to see if you got it right.
if it's an autofocus lens well.. that sucks. make sure it's set to linear focus.

go shoot manual focus pictures all over the street. they don't have to be good pictures. just make an exercise like "photograph everything that's red" and you'll make huge improvement.

when in doubt, stop down ur aperture. if you need it in focus so badly you can even up ISO to get the larger DoF.

but desu for documentary shit you can get away with a lot out of focus. nobody's watching a doc for the visuals unless you're shooting wildlife
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>>4097161
>>4097167
>>4097196
Wow, thanks a lot bros

I am feeling a toddler with the technicality of film. Technically Photography is so simple in comparison
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I made this “music video” with a bunch of clips i found on an old dslr. I used davinci but my laptop was too old to run the timeline in the editing software.

https://youtu.be/VG6SJgB5S4k

I think it cane out pretty alright since i edited it blind. What is an affordable laptop i can purchase to run davinci 18?

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>>4097276
Don’t ever touch the record button on a camera again.
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>>4097138
stop down lol
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>>4097276
u bought a camera and that was on it? cool
1: make sure ur using proxies in davinci
2: you need at least 16gb ram, id say 32 is the comfortable minimum.
3: ssd will help a lot but they're dirt cheap now
I just upgraded to 32 myself and it's a bit rough with .mov and such
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>>4097333
I found an old dslr that i had had around 2014-2016. I had not removed anything from it since then and just recently got all of my old photos and videos.
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My colors are coming up pretty flat and toned down vs reality even with lighting. What am i doing wrong?
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>>4097696

You probably used a log or flat profile when you filmed the scene.

Try to correct the footage to rec709 in resolve or another software
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I bought a FujiFilm XT4 for a very reasonable price. I'm trying to edit some footage I took in Premiere Pro but its all dark and grainy when imported, compared to when played through VLC or the default windows movie thing.

Googling it it seems to be something to do with SLog3 vs Rec709, but I trying to learn about that I have no fucking clue whats going on.

Is there some camera settings I can change to bypass all of this?
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>>4097696
Idk what you mean by "even with lighting".
You'll need to be more specific. Which camera is it? Are you putting the footage through an editor? etc.

>>4097720
fuji definitely doesn't use SLog3 bro that's sony's shit. fuji uses F-log.
for premiere honestly idk, delete that shit and use resolve honestly. I stayed on premiere for years and wish I didn't. resolve solves a lot of problems for you automatically.
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>>4097722
I'll download Davinci and give it a go. I'm pretty well versed in Adobe shit but their forums are full of unhelpful boomers who insist you're the problem rather than helping
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>>4097700
>>4097722
With added light is what i meant by lighting. I was using a black magic 6k g2 and the colors were just toned down. I was surprised because all the reviews said it had great color.
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>>4097976
don't use log gamma then (called "film" gamma in camera)
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>>4097138
Full Auto (■_■)
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>>4097977
It’s ok to use film gamma in camera as long as you convert the film gamma into rec709 or another display referenced color space in resolve
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>>4097981
> full auto

Enjoy having the camera decide to focus on a bird flying in the background when you are shooting a talking head interview or a wedding ceremony or a sporting event that you cannot reshoot.
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>>4097977
Can you explain What this means to me like i am very stupid?
>>4098028
This as well.
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>>4095075
I edit wedding videos. I'm content with it. I don't have a problem with tasteless bullshit from priests, nor clients me demanding me to edit to their cheap taste songs, nor having to see the fat bellies of grooms dressing up, nor yet another party floor where no one goes to dance but I need to make a 4 minute piece out of the whole thing. I just wanted to be paid better.
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>>4098050
> I want to get paid more.
Edit honeymoon porn videos in addition to wedding videos. Make honeymoon porn videos. You may not get paid more but you’ll have a lot more fun in the editing room.
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>>4098067
I don't record anything, I just edit.
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>>4098048
does your camera allow you to load LUTs for monitoring? then you can build a LUT for your workflow and then monitor your footage with the LUT even though you are shooting log so you can see how the final footage looks. i can't help much because i use monitors, but i heard you can do this on most camera bodies now.
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>>4098070
> I don’t record, I just edit
Give hot brides a price discount if they give you nudes or sex tapes.

What software do you use to edit? Avid, Resolve, Adobe, FCP or other and why?
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>>4098048
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8geDbNpH5cI
this guy's channel will save your life

chances are you can just right-click your clips in the media page, set their input to blackmagic and then resolve will fix the rest of it for you.
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>>4095347
>seven years into filmmaking
>go back and watch old films
>gets more technically competent as time passes
>but every successive film is more and more restricted by the knowledge of what I can do and takes less and less chances with what I could do
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>>4098092
Using resolve you can also convert your blackmagic footage to the arri logc colorspace and then use the arri logc to rec709 lut to make your footage look bitchin’
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>>4095347
>>4098108
>need to shoot a scene where a guy walks into a room and answers a wall-mounted phone
Today:
>okay, let's do a static wide shot for the master to make sure I've nailed the lighting
>and then let's do an over-the-shoulder shot to mix in with that and make it a bit more exciting
>grab a close up of the phone in case it looks alright but probably won't need it
Back then
>okay I'm just gonna shove the camera on a tripod and point it at the actor, maybe it will move, maybe it won't - hopefully it's mostly in focus
>let's get a handheld shot of his face
>oh and a handheld shot of his hand by his waist cause that might look cool
>let's do a reverse tracking shot of him entering too, and a normal over the shoulder with no stabilisation methods
>i've only got one take of each type of shot and they have no consistency but luckily I have those random closeups that I can edit in to hide the seams
>lmao that actually looks kinda cool, what are the chances?
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>>4098082
Premiere. I'm faster in it.

No, no porn.
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If I am shooting amateur videos and the drapes don’t match the carpet how easy would it be to make the color of the drapes and carpet match in Resolve?
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I'm a faggot. Answer my gay noob questions.
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>>4098263
Should be pretty simple but it will take a long time. Im not going to write a tutorial on how to do it though
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Any tips for shooting music videos with a story?

Please
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How do directors become directors? How Tarkovsky become Tarkovsky? Where did he start? How did he manage his influence?

Where the fuck do you start? Screenwriting or photography? Where? How do they figure out their style? I mean it's not like writing where you're writing words on a paper, it's film where there is no such thing as no budget. So without fucking up how do directors figure out their style?

Is there any book which touch on this subject? The books which can give me an insider perspective?
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>>4098315
Most directors have something that they want to say/express. Do you? And if not, why do you want to be a filmmaker?
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>>4098318
>why do you want to be a filmmaker?
To get my dick sucked. Obviously the most secret and embarrassing desire of an artist to get praised for his work.

There is a type of film that doesn't exist so I want to make that type of film. That shit is really fragmented and it has been taking shape so I can't explain it you
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>>4098319
godspeed, anon
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>>4098319
>There is a type of film that doesn't exist so I want to make that type of film
So go and make that type of film? Buy a camera (or use your phone), get some friends or find some struggling actors (literally a dime a dozen), and shoot it.
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>>4098273
Can you make a YouTube tutorial video showing me how to do this?
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Is it legal to get a telephoto lens and film people fucking in the privacy of their house and then releasing the film as a art house hipster masterpiece?
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>>4098368
Yeah of course bud, just give me 2 weeks to do it properly
>>4098370
No.
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>>4098279
you can always choose just one line in the song and make an entire story based on that without context. it works better than u would expect.

>>4098315
good question anon.
first of all, they need a reason to not be writing a book. otherwise they would write a fucking book.
so obviously they start with the visuals.
in most cases afaik they don't often turn out to be photographers, but more like guys who watch a lot of movies and "photograph" their favorite scenes of those movies.
>budget
if they had infinite budget, there would be no development of style at all.
style in a practical view is determined by what you spend your resources on.
your resources are:
>money/time
which then buy:
>your audio
>your screen
which combine to buy
>the audience's attention (time)

audio and screen space are limited (budgeted) by how large the frames can be.
so style is determined mostly by what the artist puts into these spaces.
things like "context" and "writing" don't qualify as resources, since there can be nearly infinite context in the mind of the viewer (imagine writing a scene about someone very famous like Donald Trump) and writing is kind of downstream from everything else.

so the first step for any director is to get a handle on his idea, compare it to his budget, and then see what he can do.
if he can't do it, he doesn't try. he just finds another project that he's inspired to make and that fits within his limitations.
that's being creative.
there's nothing creative about "I have an idea and I need $100000000 or i can never do anything", well then he's not a creative person, he's a guy with one fucking idea.

the budget separates the people with more inspiration from the people with less inspiration, aka creative people from uncreative people.
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>>4098370
don't do this, you'll end up witnessing a murder, who knows how that will turn out?
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what are my options in terms of lighting when it comes to a run-and-gun interview style setup shot in loud, dimly lit areas?
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>>4098604
endless
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>>4098315
As I said in the /film/ thread:

Like another anon said, influence comes from around you. It comes from everywhere, from within you and your past. Watch films, read books, listen to music, explore art. Eventually you'll come to see what style you like
As for actually doing something, yes you can go to film school, or you can have Jewish connections, though that's more of an american thing, or you can do it yourself. There's tons of resources online on the technical aspects, and good cameras are cheap nowadays. Just need some likeminded people to work with you. That's where film school is useful, but not essential. Do it until you make something decent, get it shown somewhere, get noticed or slowly build up a reputation and then go pro.
That's what I did/am doing. It's slow, but it works. If you aren't a lazy retard like me, you can do it faster
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>>4098315

If you have to even think about this you won't ever become one
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>>4098604
The sun????????
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Anyone have Sony Leeming LUT or any paid LUT's they'd be willing to share? Looking for Sony HLG in particular.
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>>4098315
I'm in a directing streaming in film school atm. This is a good place to start. If you don't want to shell out/cant get the physical book there's a PDF out there(I may have it actually). Directing is a huge pain in the ass but I mean that in a challenging rewarding(Mostly) way. Its actually crazy the amount of prep work you have to do. Your whole job is understanding everything about the script and
Not fucking up eyelines breaking axis is easy but Hollywood directors fuck up all the time. Blocking is in a way the directors craft and wrapping your head around the complexities of it is key.
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>>4098750
Do Hollywood directors break the rules for creative reasons or do they break the rules because of stupidity, laziness, and nepotism?
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>>4098865
yes
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>>4098604
use some lights
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is there anything about as compact as a sigma fp but with maybe a smaller sensor in exchange for benefits like ibis? preferably with log and stuff too
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>>4098988
oh, interchangeable lens too, basically like a relatively compact sub full frame video camera good enough for cinema
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>>4098865
>break the rules for creative reasons
Yes
>stupidity, laziness, and nepotism?
Also yes. The more people you add to a scene the more complicated the blocking gets and the easier it is to fuck something up. Check this scene out
>https://youtu.be/PMG6uE3jfvQ
This is a floor plan my proff did to show the shots. In the scene no matter the shots:
>Freeman always frame left, looking right
>Pit is always frame right looking left
>Lee Ermey is always frame right looking left at Morgan and right at Pitt, He does jump to the left side of the frame in one shot but maintains these eyelines.
You would think this would be easy not to screw up but you'd be surprised how long it takes to wrap your head around this stuff and build a competent floor plan and shoot it.
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>>4098995
>but you'd be surprised how long it takes to wrap your head around this stuff and build a competent floor plan and shoot it
You say that as if directors can't get away with just ignoring that sort of visual consistency. Nolan is notorious for not giving a fuck, for example. The obvious example is CIA jumping around the all over the place in the plane scene in TDKR. But Dunkirk has several appalling instances as well where, if you pay attention to where the actors actually are, you notice they literally teleport between shots nonstop.
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>>4099000
>TDKR
Re-watched it. Boy it isn't great in terms of an scene. That being said it follows eyeline for a huge percentage of it so I have no clue what you're talking about.
>as if directors can't get away with just ignoring that sort of visual consistency
They can't, they would be fired otherwise if they just chose to out of nowhere. Of course they are in that spot because they know fundamentally how to direct in the first place.
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>>4099027
>That being said it follows eyeline for a huge percentage of it so I have no clue what you're talking about.
Quick example, pic related. There's like a 4-part video series on youtube breaking down Dunkirk as well.
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Historical retardation of the day. Oklahoma (1955) was shot on 65mm master, but for 35mm projections, it was not just downscaled, like it was the practice for every other large format film ever shot since or before. On, no, no, you see it was shot in special 65mm that ran at whooping 30fps instead of the pedestrian 24fps. Unfortunately this made it incompatible for regular scaling down. But the madmen had an answer for this, they simply shot it on 35mm as well! Some scenes simultaneously some in duplicates. Both versions are preserved and available, it's interesting observing the differences between them, depth, resolution, aspherical cinemascope vs spherical todd-ao (of later Sound of Music fame), what's even more historically shocking is witnessing uncanny skill and attention to detail. There are scenes, that you could swear where taken simultaneously on the same take, choreography, acting, camera movement, all is precisely the same, only on closer looks it's possible to see small details that show them to be taken at different takes.

Despite all this, 35mm is better home video version. They're both only available in standard resolutions, so advantages of larger format aren't as apparent, what's worse, they also fucked up digitization of the todd-ao on several fronts.
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>>4099031
Ah that's continuity, not eye line. Films break continuity all the fucking time. DESU 90% of all continuity problems aren't noticed even by film snobs and every single of your favorite directors have them in their films. Take a look at this, see how the circles and the arrows match between the cut? That's eyeline.
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https://twitter.com/Blackmagic_News/status/1590899097678278656
https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=170456

Hardware accelerated AV1 encodes in supported Nvidia systems.
Up to 50% faster AV1 and H.265 encodes with dual Nvidia encoder.
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>>4099113
thanks, bmdbot
not gonna lie, blackmagic is killing it recently, resolve 17 and now 18 have been pretty awesome and the 18 release hasn't even been an endless bugfest like 16.0 and 17.0
good job, aussie cunts
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new german austim lens video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIMTwV3YaVk
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>>4099040
Well I was just talking about visual consistency (based on the difficulties with the floor plan for Se7en), the point being that acclaimed hacks don't give even the smallest consideration to it, but yeah sure.
Failing to match eye-line is one of those things that everyone watching would immediately notice even if only subconsciously. I think every wannabe filmmaker has at least one experience of accidentally forgetting to do it properly and having 2 characters talking to each other but both looking to the same side of the frame.
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>>4099132
the only way to totally avoid this is to chart it out and have full control of your set, because irl for mere mortals you can work your shots out, but too many times on location some bullshit happens and you have to restructure a sequence on demand and that's when these mistake creep in
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>>4099040

Most "film snobs" watch movies from a more aesthetic/ideological/narrative/literary/political/philosophical/ethical/sociological etc. standpoint and very few of them actually look at the craft/technique. Which is of course quite flawed since the craft is what sells the audience the themes of the movie, the narrative, the plot decisions etc. etc. But that's how it is.

Nolan has always been overrated af from a visual storytelling view point. His strengths mostly lie in the way he plays with narrative concepts in his writing and editing. Some big names have actually roasted his visual chops in the past though, David Bordwell for example has been critical of him.
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>>4099039
>Despite all this, 35mm is better home video version.
>they also fucked up digitization of the todd-ao on several fronts.
How so?
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>>4095075
Noob here. I've been watching this the other day...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4We63XJg7Eo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6YJjjIpKKE

(Dynamic range aside) Let's say you want to achieve the softness of the BMPCC with, for example, a Lumix G85. How would you do it? If I recall correctly, the Blackmagic does not apply sharpness enhancement by default, but I can't confirm.

I don't know if I'm saying something stupid or obvious but, depending on the situation, less sharpness feels better.
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ONLY TROONS WILL DISAGREE

Daily reminder that film is not a visual medium, that cinematography is meant for plebs, and that film is a storytelling, theater based, emotional centered medium.
>anyone who posts screenshots of cinematography you can immediately dismiss their opinion as worthless.
>cinematography that you can 'hang on your wall' because it's 'such a painting!!' personifies the reddit ethos.
>film is meant to be experienced in context. that still frame means nothing without the entire film surrounding it.
>isolating the 'visual element' is anti-cinema. What you want is to go to a gallery of still photographs where there is no additional context needed.

The dogme95 movement was the first movement to attempt to address the redditization of cinema.
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>>4099377
Weak bait.
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>>4099382
Fuck off photography goblin
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>>4099383
No, don't think I will.
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>>4099377
>>4099382
Literally the last hope for film
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>>4099386
Cringe.
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>>4099387
>t. ass blasted dop terrified of real art film dogme95pill
go hoard more gear and manipulate the director by whispering more demonic photography doubts in his ear. you're a shill and a fag
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>>4099389
Who hurt your feelings? Got yelled by the cinematographer on set? lmao
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>>4099392
fuck you goblin
now i am free from the clutches of demonic dops, your breed disgust me
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>>4099394
>free
Your massive seething and attention-seeking suggests quite the opposite.
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>>4099398
Don't reply to me you demonic goblin
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>>4099386
Most of these are braindead.
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>>4099408
That's true art film you photography goblin
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>>4099410
its soi film, hipster. for weak effeminate men that fear high standards and hard work. so they come up with any excuse to have less of either. you are a scrawny little halfling proposing that men live in holes rather than build homes.
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>>4099411
You pollute film with photography and call it manly. Nah that's fag shit, fag feminine aesthete dandy shit. Fuck beautification, I am not a women. Life is hard and raw, we have to show the real deal.
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>>4099443
> hard and raw
Do you want cinematic porn?
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any wedding editors/shooters here?
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>>4099535
I did two weddings and then quit that shit forever
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>>4099386
based and von trier pilled
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>>4099376
Vitnage (Canon FD) lenses or m4/3 voigtlanders nearly wide open would get you partially there.
Put a black pro mist or a glimmerglass filter on the front, carefully select scenes to hide the horrible highlight roll-off.
In-camera you would try to nuke sharpening & NR as much as you can. But the G85 doesn't shoot V-LOG so the closest you can get for a gradable image would probably be natural profile with desaturation/decontrast settings.

The first video you posted was shot in 1080p and upscaled to 4k which u definitely want to avoid since your ratio of resolution:information would decline, i.e. you have less luma/chroma values for the amount of pixels in your image.

It's the reverse of this:
https://www.eoshd.com/news/discovery-4k-8bit-420-panasonic-gh4-converts-1080p-10bit-444/

So with a weaker codec you could definitely push it into banded colors or something by upscaling 1080 to 4k.

Of course the G85 has a 4k mode in-camera and it crops in on the sensor to achieve this.. that MIGHT make the image look more oversharpened in 4k than 1080 depending on how the camera applies the sharpening.
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>>4099643
I appreciate the answer. Since my budget is allergic to extra lenses, I think in-camera settings is the way to go. The filters you mentioned are interesting, I'll take a good look.

I've seen this guy squeeze the settings of a G7, so negative sharpening and noise settings might take me there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhs8UfH4bNY
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>>4099829
Be careful diffusion filters can cost almost as much as a lens.
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>>4095738
I take you had a bad day back when you wrote this
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>>4099377
Kill yourself
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so, friendly fellows, gotta ask again, is this cine?
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>>4100614
post the other 23
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WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU FIND ACTORS AND LIKE MINDED PEOPLE TO WORK WITH YOU ON YOUR ZERO BUDGET FILMS?

I am losing it bros
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>>4100666
friends
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>>4100666
facebook, unironically
"Hey, I'm a low-budget filmmaker and want to put together some quick scenes for my showreel. Any actors interested in collaborating for showreel footage?" - put that in your local actor's facebook page
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>>4100673
not him, but there's no local actors group, there's no amateur filmmaker group, there's nothing. Either you go and do commercial stuff (for which I have no connections whatsoever) or you be the actor that kys himself for the amusement of the audiences online. it's so fucking over
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>>4100743
>there's no local actors group
By 'local', you should be looking for groups in your closest city. Where do you live that this isn't a thing?
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>>4100670
Do you know where you are
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>>4100750
> friends
If you are a women your friend will come once a month; if you are a man get off 4chan and look around to see if you can find one.
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Is it worth it to invest in an O’Connor 1040 tripod head if I am just using a DSLR or Mirrorless camera? How does that head compare with a Sachtler fluid head? Which system would be a better investment for the long term? Why?
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>>4101036
dunno, where I live everything is sachtler and a bit of vinten and cartoni. oconnor is competely irrelevant except for some large scale rentals having it in stock for when grey old murrican dps come over.
my favorite is cartoni just because they're so lightweight for the payloads but the new sachtler aktiv quick release bowls are great as well. That's probably what I'd go for these days if I needed another head
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There is a difference between how a filmmaker and a film lover looks at films. A filmmaker is employed at the film industry while a film lover is working some job at a coal mine. A filmmaker comments on the technical parts of the film while a film lover comments on how he or she is entertained by the film. One thing to know is that this is a lot like cooking. When you are working in a kitchen as a chef all the other chefs jump in on how sloppy you are working in the kitchen, but all that matters regardless of how sloppy you are is how the customer who is not a chef enjoys their food. The customer doesn't give a damn what happens in the kitchen, they just want hot fresh food that tastes good.
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>>4100670
Good luck if all your friends are lazy introverts who hate being looked at by people.
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>>4101212
This is a dumb and stupid way of looking at it. Paul Thomas Anderson praised Wonder Woman among other mainstream blockbusters. Scorsese's list of favourite films is normie-central. Terrence Malick's favourite film is Zoolander.
Filmmakers are film lovers. That's why they make films. If you only enjoy the most uniniviting dense arthouse thrillers, then you shouldn't be making films.
And, ironically, it's the so-called "cinephiles" who are jerking off to the pretentious bullshit that plagues the arthouse scene while scoffing at mainstream blockbusters. It's those retards who will judge a film by the behind-the-scenes drama.
"Oh didn't you hear? Ace Ventura is problematic now. Brendan Fraser is going through such a Brenaissance at the moment, he's so hot. The Northman is so authentic and accurate to actual norse-mythology, you're missing the point if you're criticising its fight scenes."
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>>4101214
Why can't I have nice things?
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>new gear is arriving today
:)
>no longer have an excuse for not producing content
:(
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>>4101425
If you develop a bad case of GAS you’ll never produce anything. :p
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>>4095075
People of /vid/, get me started, motivate me.
("MP4" in the captcha)
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>>4101430
lmao I'm already eyeing a viltrox speedbooster and a sigma 18-35
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>>4101435
The purpose of art is expressing yourself. If you're expressing yourself when you are drunk not letting it get to you, then you shouldn't let how you express yourself through the camera. Never-mind about quality and quantity, focus on expressing yourself with your camera.
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>>4101443
get the memebones, the viltrox is trash
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>>4101435
Every day that you're not producing kino, is another day that you're letting hollywood hacks convince audiences that capeshit is the pinnacle of cinema.
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>>4101450
I'm trash, baby
captcha: JGWGAY
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>>4101456
maybe, but you deserve better.
t. bought the damn viltrox
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>>4101443
I am also eyeing the 18-35 and 35-100 art lenses but I will use that I have until I can afford those lenses.
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>>4101447
>If you're expressing yourself when you are drunk not letting it get to you, then you shouldn't let how you express yourself through the camera.
I don't really understand this sentence. Can you explain it another way?
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>>4095757
What’s up fellow navy bro, are you an AW? Get the x-t5 in my opinion since that’s the camera you want

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>>4101566
I'll try to explain it, but you need to need to start visualizing words more often instead of plainly looking at them. You have an IQ of 130 yet for some reason visualizing words is a challenge. I don't get it?

You know of how when some people are drunk they don't care of what goes out of their mouth, and I am of course speaking of a happy drunk not an angry drunk, anyway you just say things out of the jest of it having fun. You aren't too concerned about all the details of what you are saying when you're drunk. You're just saying silly things and having a good time.

Now how does this have to deal with filmmaking.

Don't get too caught up in the details and have a fun time. Go wild with your ideas. You'll make something.
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>>4101569
>and I am of course speaking of a happy drunk not an angry drunk
What's wrong with angry drunk?
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>>4101584
An angry drunk is someone who is belligerent, abusive, and aggressive while drunk. A happy drunk is someone who is bubbly and cheerful reflecting on good times while drunk.
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>>4101586
>An angry drunk is someone who is belligerent, abusive, and aggressive while drunk.
Yeah, but what's wrong with it in terms of writing a screenplay?
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Bros what do you think about this zoomer obsession with fast cuts? Is it because they can't handle longer camera movements or is it a problem of attention span?
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I love disillusionment arcs. Happy endings suck. Most people start out happy and end up disillusioned when life throws shit at them. Plus it’s fun watching people fall. I’m not making shit for hallmark filled with fake happiness; I want to make an art-house film filled with angst.
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>>4101630
Anon I think you should have been spanked and belt whipped as a kid.
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>>4101630
>Plus it’s fun watching people fall.
That's fucked up
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>>4101638
> spanked and belt whipped
That’s why I am the way I am.
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>>4101604
Probably both. I do miss the longer tracking shots of old. I always thought excessive use of rapid cutting was a cheap cover for lack of talent. It's disorienting, and you'd think it would only complicate the editing process.
>>4101630
Disgusting. Modern filmmakers are obsessed with ugliness and negativity enough as it is (speaking of covering for lack of talent).
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>>4101569
>yet for some reason visualizing words is a challenge
I am French and here I never know if I'm reading an Englishman, an American (and if there are any mistakes or typos), or someone else whose first language is not English.
>drunk
You're speaking about disinhibition. Lars von Trier speaked a lot about that and the fact that he couldn't create anything without drinking. I understand what you're saying, I have to find my own way to be deshinibited.
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>>4101683
>Lars von Trier speaked a lot about that and the fact that he couldn't create anything without drinking.
I have never taste alcohol in my life because I am in a Muslim country. Does alcohol really gives your writing edge? Or do you write better in that state?
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>>4101690
no. It's haram, bro
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Hey bros,
I have made two short films. I am looking for your feedback.

https://vimeo.com/765392977 (3mins long)

https://vimeo.com/638324007 (1mins long)
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>>4101695
I am not a Muslim anymore
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>>4101696
>https://vimeo.com/638324007 (1mins long)
Kek nice twist
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>>4101690
>Does alcohol really gives your writing edge? Or do you write better in that state?
For some people, creating is easier with a slightly altered state of mind (like with alcohol or deep tireness) because you're not overthinking, you're a bit overconfident (''fuck it, let's go, I don't care about opinions'')
>>4101698
Based. Which country?
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>>4101700
>altered state of mind (like with alcohol or deep tireness) because you're not overthinking, you're a bit overconfident (''fuck it, let's go, I don't care about opinions'')
Ah, I know what you mean.

>Which country?
Pakistan
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>>4101700
What do you think of getting an extreme altered state such as dropping a lot of acid or eating buckets of ‘shrooms before you write? Does it help a lot? Or is getting as drunk as a skunk a better way to tap into your inner muse? How about having a breakthrough dose of DMT would that help one become moar creative? Drugs, Not Hugs! Remember what the D.A.R.E. Program said: Drugs are really enjoyable and Drugs are religious experiences. Pick your poison and pick up that pen and start writing your amazing and awesome screenplay.
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>"write what you know"
does the world need another stoner comedy
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>>4101755
>What’s the worst type of writing advice, about the art of it, that you’ve seen, and why?

>I think the worst writing advice, which may no longer be proffered, is “Write what you know.” It’s so often misinterpreted to mean “Write about the world you live in” I’ve never done that, nor have a lot of other writers. Stanley Elkin’s A Bad Man is set in a prison. Before writing the novel, Elkin had never visited a prison or researched was it was like to be in prison. After he published the novel, he had the opportunity to teach creative writing to convicts in a prison. So finally he had a chance to see what a real prison what like. His comment: “I like my prison better.”

https://wonderbooknow.com/interviews/thomas-ligotti/
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>>4101755
>>4101756
Above in the interview Ligotti said

>On the page, what are the worst ways that a talented writer can self-sabotage or self-betray?

>I don’t know what you mean by “on the page,” but I think the worst way a writer can self-betray is by not being true to his or her experience of being alive. It’s my belief, for what it’s worth, that a lot of writers consign to the page what they think will meet with the approval, especially in the moral realm, of what their society has preached to them since they were children, almost all of which is utter bullshit. This is particularly evident in the practice of screenplay writers who write about characters being “redeemed” in some way or other. That is, whereas a character began with a bad attitude about life, he ends as if he had swallowed whole hog a course in positive thinking. Often this is evident even at the level of personal habits. For instance, a character will smoke copiously at the beginning of a movie, and by the end of the movie he quits because smoking is anti-life and being smoke free is pro-life. In the movie Constantine, Keanu Reeves does this, although at least his cigarette smoking turns out to function materially in the film’s plot.
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>>4101756
>>4101758
so I guess that's a 'no' to the stoner comedy
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>>4101756
>Write what you know.
I think the correct interpretation of this is write about things/experiences you understand.
I haven't read Elkin's A Bad Man, but from looking it up, it seems to be somewhat surrealist. The issue would be if it were presented as a down-to-earth story as if it was implying that it was realistic. Because then no one with actual knowledge of the subject could take the book seriously.
So like, you don't need to be a serial killer to write a story about one. But you should probably do some research if you intend for your book to be taken as a serious, gritty thriller. If you're happy to write in that quasi-surrealist style akin to A Series of Unfortunate Events, or anything directed by Wes Anderson, then it's only important that the characters' emotions are relatable.
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My life is too damn boring to write it and having to put a twist on it as a slapstick dark comedy or a drama of a mentally ill man like some filmmakers would do, is not in my ability.
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>>4101786
READ READ READ READ READ

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>>4101696
I like both anon. Keep up the good work. They both look pretty unique.
For the 2nd video I would suggest maybe adding some slow dynamic zoom (digital) on some of the still shots (like the first shot in the film and the later shot when the camera is very close to the ground).
The purpose of this is just to add a sense of motion so the audience knows that these are transitory scenes and not special scenes.
It also builds some tension as the audience wonders 'why is the camera zooming, what's about to be revealed?'

but yeah both very good, keep it up.
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>>4101766
its beginning to sound like the actually good advice is "write what people don't know"
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>>4095075
I'm about to start buying the Meike cine line for M4/3.
Is there a better option available?
I can stretch the budget to about 2x the price of these but they seem like such a solid deal that it's not even worth spending the extra on Voigtlanders or some speedboosted shit.

I like a vintage look so I don't mind their CA and such.
I know the veydras used to retail for about $1000 apiece and these are the same design but with worse QC.

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>>4101814
I prefer the samyangs
T2 is a bit slow for mft imo
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>>4101809
To an extent.
Coming of age stories are so popular because everyone understands everything about them and can relate their own experiences. But a lot of the nuance comes with describing a common experience in a way that isn't intuitive. So like writing about a character sleeping with one leg out of the covers in summer to regulate their body temperature. So many people understand it but very few have ever thought (before it became understood as a common phenomena) that there was any common understanding in doing so. It was just like, 'here's that weird thing I sometimes do when I'm uncomfortable, I'm so weird' because no one ever shared their experiences of doing that.
But there is also a lot of value in researching and writing about a lesser-known subject that's interesting.
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>>4101827
F/1.8 and above is enough for me, so I don't mind T/2.
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tell me, friend, when did /vid/ the wiz abandon meike for samyang
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>>4101911
Samyangs are too soft for me. I prefer vintage lenses.
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>>4101923
>sharp, modern lenses are too soft for me. I prefer soft lenses.
what did she mean by this
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>>4102128
soft lenses are great for shes
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I got a BMPCC 4k and the video I rendered from it on Resolve has sections of missing frames all over (especially with fast movements). Can I prevent this in the future? I deleted the source recordings already
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>>4102267
>I deleted the source recordings already
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>>4102262
>>4102128
I'm a man. I don't know what sort of crack cocaine you're on, but I'm a dude and I prefer vintage lenses.
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>>4102272
Well... Since you're dealing with film, you can try to redit the film.
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How the fuck I can save my ass from orange and teal bullshit?
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>>4102405
If you don’t want orange and teal don’t grade your footage and push it that way. Orange and teal doesn’t come naturally, a film makers uses raw or high bitrate log footage to get that look.
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>>4102405
get a monochrome sensor or shoot bnw film
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>>4102407
I have shitty tungsten rod lights lmaooo which give that terrible almost orange color.

>>4102408
I have no money. And I am 3rd world poorfag. So far I have been slapping B&W LUTS on my shit and I am tired of this Einsteinian bullshit. Now I am running after continuity.
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>>4102412
> I have shitty lights which give the orange color
> I have no money

If you have time to fix your footage in post you can use the free version of DaVinci Resolve to remove the orange color that your crappy lights are adding to your scene from your footage to make it look more natural or bluer or however you want it to look.
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>>4102412
>I have shitty tungsten rod lights lmaooo which give that terrible almost orange color.
white balance for tungsten then or use ctb gels
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>>4102413
>>4102415
Hmm. These are nice solutions. The color grading options are infinite so I'll use ctb gels to get nice colors straight from camera
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>>4102417
> I’ll use ctb gels to get good colors

Good idea. It’s much easier to color grade if you get good colors in camera. It’s much harder to make shitty footage look good than it would be to make good footage look great.
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How could I make vlc media player work with decklink (blackmagic designs video output device) so that I can play movies on a broadcast monitor?
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>>4102528
Why aren't you using MPC-HC?
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>>4102528
you can't
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>>4102408
>mfw the monochromatic sensor phase of filmmaking but you can easily turn footage into black and white in post.
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>>4102412
>I have shitty tungsten rod lights lmaooo which give that terrible almost orange color.
what the fuck are you talking about
tungsten lights are great and constantly used in film for like a century now
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>>4102656
The poster probably set the white balance to daylight and not tungsten.
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To get rid of the orange cast, use Kelvin values?
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>>4102712
3200
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>>4102821
In some ways that is what it is supposed to look like. A sunset is supposed to give off an orange vibe to it when used. You can try going in post and switching up the colors with a color temp harshly dialing it down to get the blue you want from it. Though I can understand what you mean as I had this happen when filming inside at night.
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>>4102656
Sorry those are not tungsten lights but shitty halogen lights.

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>>4102841
which are just normal gas filled tungsten lights and perfectly fine
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>>4102857
They have no dimmers. Cutting and defusing is a pain in the ass.

Any tips?
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>>4102860
Just use any cheap dimmer in front
dimming changes the white balance though, so using distance, gels like frost/ND and nets/scrims is the classical way of controlling light level with them
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>>4102860
Try using an nd filter in your camera
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>>4102861
Thanks

Can you recommend me some books on lighting on what I am suppose to do as an aspiring DOP? I have been fucking around with lights but to tell you the truth I don't "get" lighting, I am always clueless about how to do lighting and what I am suppose to achieve and which is also "good". I just fuck around and settle for the minimum. I want to develop a concrete understanding.

In short I am a retard and I want to understand lighting. What do?

>>4102862
Nah, that's a cheap cope. I would still get very harsh shadows without proper diffusion and that looks terrible.
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>>4102865
there's many
I'd probably start with the lighting parts in the American cinematographers manual and to understand the technical shit and then go to something like "placing shadows" which is horribly dated but imo still a really good take on simple shit like 3 point because it isn't super abstract and about how it has to feel right but sticks to well explained measurements which at least help me a lot to actually understand more than subjective blabbering
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>>4101804
Thanks for your feedback brah. Good suggestion. I will try do better next time.
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>>4102860
try bouncing and flagging what you don't wsnt
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>>4102885
bouncing is obviously the best thing since sliced bread but I think with anon's basic tungsten household lights you'll run into serious limitations in output unless you have access to super efficient fabrics like ultrabounce
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>>4102873
I'll check this one out

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>>4102886
Can I use synthetic white silk fabric as ultrabounce? I know a place where they sell factory rejected fabric at very very cheap price.
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>>4102892
you can bounce off it for sure
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>>4102886
kek, i suppose. i thought blowing breakers and setting material on fire was a common rite of passage.
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>>4102950
working with tungsten something will burn anyway, and if it's just your fingertips.
But I don't think I ever blew a fuse with tungsten before because these do exactly what the box says, only with hmis and their dogshit ass power factor correction in the ballasts where a 1.8kw lamp suddenly draws 2.8 because the ballast is shit
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>>4101568
I was a Marine crew chief. I think im gonna get the X-H2. I got to hold an X-T5 and X-H2 is just much more comfy and has better features. It seems like Fuji has been progressively downgrading the build quality of the X-T cameras too. The 5 doesnt seem as solid as the 3. The dials feel more like cheap chinesium. It’s a tactile difference that affects my attitude to the camera. You may not feel the same way if you hold one. I still think its a great camera though.
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How much light is needed to light a small scene? Will two 60W LEDs do the trick? By "small scene" I mean a scene taking place in a 4 by 8m room tops.
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>>4102968
depends
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>>4095080
reddit spacing, the general way you type annoys me, either lurk moar or get off my boards you pathetic normalfag, also unironically virgins fuck way worse in my experience
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>>4102968
Depends on your light sensitivity, what F/stops you're willing to use, and if you are willing to take the risk in messing with the shutter speed. On an FX6 you can light the entire room up with a few 30 watt bulbs getting a decent image. With a 35mm film camera you're stuck with 400 ASA film unless you figure out a way to expose it in post like a Sony camera, which at the most it would be like 4 stops of extra light, so that'll be like 1600 ISO I believe from 400 ASA, with that you may need a lot of 60 watt bulbs and a fast aperture. If you struggle with focusing on a fast aperture, then you have to bring in 300 watt bulbs. Again it depends.
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Is it even possible to get in to film making if Im not going to school for it and just want to do it on the side?
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imagine unironically replying to stale pasta and having the gall to call others newfags
lol
lmao, even
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>>4102983
it is, because it's all about the contacts you make
no one gives a fuck about the degree, it's just the people you connect with and your friends that will hire you and drag you from job to job
it's way harder to meet the same amount of the same "quality" of people without film school but it's certainly possible, especially if you're willing to do some internships at like rental firms and are good at talking to people
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>>4102983
Getting into the film industry is more dependent on your people skills even as an introvert than your technical skills. Film school teaches you the technical skills and gives you film projects based on the college's curriculum, but until you figure out how you can successfully interact with people, you will struggle with getting projects done in college and getting a job in the industry. I put filmmaking on the side because of that. There is a way through problem solving, but in movie making you have to interact with hundreds of people on a set taking care of their personalities. The nastiest personality of them all is the drama queen with a shit ton of lawyers who is like a biker who is a bruiser walking in the building. Once you figure out how to get around those types while still intelligibley convincing people to be on camera, you'll be farther ahead of me and a lot of people who just film slider shots of garden ornaments.
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>>4102984
its obvious bait, so i took a nom, guess should have posted the eating bait img for you. And it prompt'd my gangstalkers to post so replying to pasta worked for me. inb4 u start saying im pretending to be retarded
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>>4102984 took a nom and posted to get (you)'s and to have gangstalkers flood in*
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>>4102987
>but until you figure out how you can successfully interact with people, you will struggle with getting projects done in college and getting a job in the industry.
How do you convince someone to be on the camera?
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now that's some juicy cope
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>>4103008
>the poster amount didnt inc, me good fuck off w gangstalking, stop being pussies if youre gonna harass me while being wrong stop being anon insert slur
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real schizo hours
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>>4102968
imagine not wanting to light the scene like it's the surface of the fucking sun
ngmi
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>>4103014
Every time I light a scene likes it’s the surface of the sun I end up overexposing my footage.
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>>4103016>>4103014>>4103013
>after posting that >>4103008 youve same had the same group samefag
the topic of conversation only returns and it is two responses each with >> to a post. fuck off retards wrong seethe
captcha k5p4y
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Majority of my filmmaking equipment is from Taiwan, Japan, China, and Vietnam. Does that mean filmmaking is anime?
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>>4103027
id say youre wrong as usual youre not filming anime are you? zach what are you trying to say do some of your films have significant amounts of animation or is it a essential to making of your films? just like usual im right is all this thread tells me hope youre half as good as i am zach bcs thats prob juice
captcha kkyv2 v2 omegagigaultrasuper
new captcha AGXAT
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>>4103050
Why do you tell us the captcha?
Captcha hunt3r15ath33fands015j03
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>>4103014
My problem is budget. Also there was a sale on adorama for some 120W units at $99 each just hours ago but I missed out and now they're 175 eac, jdimsa.
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>>4103051
for archiving reasons primarily a habbit from another board helps with how i encode things to remember more also somethings changed new poster somewhere
captcha pw50r sexooo (running quickly in a tunnel yellin)
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when i razor tool on audio tracks in premiere pro it adds an audible 'click' or 'pop' when the tracker head goes over the razor cuts. What the actual fuck? can't find shit online. anyone else?
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>>4101696
i like the wilhelm scream and the obnoxiously loud thunder crack in particular
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>>4101696
Cinematography is great, but the pacing in the edits needs to improve, and I'd like more details in the story. Id especially like it with more details keeping with the mystery of the characters. In the second one you could have had the guy wear a bandana instead of a party mask which would have been a bit more effective. I would have liked it better for the second one to be two to three minutes long instead of one minute long.
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>>4103007
That is a good question. Unfortunately I don't really know because my people skills are abysmal. I mean sure when I'm not trying I can do fine with people, but trying to get people to do something is a challenge for me.
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>>4103007
>>4103106
ive heard directors say that it's all about making them feel like you'll make them look good on the camera.
it's ESPECIALLY important to make them feel like they won't look bad. cuz they might not even believe they can do a good job. but "not bad" alleviates most hesitation
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>>4103127
It isn't just that. You have to not appear like a sleazy creep too. Which is a challenge when dealing with strangers as a new director.
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>>4103130
ah bet yeah I only work with people who know me by reputation and usually try to link them up with someone else they know so they have a natural rhythm in the scene (i.e. can pick up on the other persons timing cues very easily)

for working with strangers I'm not sure what advice to give aside from uh, maybe just talk to them a lot about your creative ideas, past projects etc so they can feel like they know a lot about you.

also ask them for their input "is there a way you would prefer to shoot this?" so they don't feel railroaded.
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>>4103127
>it's ESPECIALLY important to make them feel like they won't look bad
Then how can you get actors for depressing roles?
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>>4103094
use short fades where you cut
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>>4103094
you need to cut at a zero crossing of the waveform otherwise do >>4103149
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thoughts on sony fx30? is it worth the money if its the first camera i get
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>>4103552
most likely not
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>>4103554
i have an old alpha 6000 but the footage looks shit. it doesnt even look HD. and yes im recording on the highest settings and i am in focus. it still looks like crap quality. what do
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>>4103556
get good lenses
get some basic lights and learn about lighting
make your sets look good
stop obsessing about sharpness, no one cares, the image from the a6000 can be perfectly fine
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>>4103560
and when you've done all that and constantly make good looking stuff but still feel that it's the camera body of all things what's holding you back then just rent something awesome for the next project that has a little budget to spare and see how that fits into your whole work
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>>4103560
>>4103562
thanks for the advice. i have two small cheap lights with light tripods in my cellar. also how do i know if a lense is good or not?
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>>4103560
Go back to your containment thread to cry about Wino, cinefag
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I've got a two track field recorder and I'll be recording a band soon. Track 1 will be coming straight from the mixing board. Should track 2 be used to capture the drums or the vocals?
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If you are using 4k resolution and below, vintage lenses are fine and they'll adapt easily to your camera. As long of course you picked out the lenses that were made for 35mm photography, not 16mm or 8mm film. Once you go into the territory of 5k-8k, that is when it would be best to get a digital lens optimized for those resolutions. Added you'd have to get a digital lens to adapt to the dynamic range of the camera too. Of course though for some reason, the cheaper the camera the more variability you have with cheaper equipment, but the more expensive the camera the more expensive the equipment has to be. One of the reasons why I'm glad I have a Canon T2i instead of a Red Raptor.
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What is the cheapest worthwhile device I can get which will record 4k60 4:2:2 with full pixel readout and will let me save raw video?
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After since some close inspection, I can conclude that none of my lenses are at all radioactive.
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>>4103793
you want to get the stereo output from the mixing board, do both channels will already be used
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I'm looking at some mirrorless cameras and trying to compare their video recording options. How can I tell whether a camera uses pixel binning or line skipping for full frame recording? The only source I can find for this information is youtube videos and they give conflicting data because apparently many youtubers dont realize that line skipping and pixel binning are different.
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>>4103836
go to a store and ask for a rental or ask if you can record some footage on your own media
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>>4103836
just post the specific models in this thread anon
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Am I correct in my conclusion that the Blackmagic Pocket CinemaCamera6K is capable of recording higher quality video than any current mirrorless hybrid camera? It seems like even the Sony A1 and Nikon Z9 have limitations once you start trying to do 4k60 or higher, but the Blackmagic seems like it can spit out 6K60p 4:2:2 12-bit RAW with full pixel readout. Am I correct that none of the mirrorless hybrid cameras on the market can do this yet?
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>>4103894
You probably are but the color rendition isn't very nice (imho), the sensor is super 35 (this can be good or bad, depending on what lenses you can grab) and the mount is reflex-like, EF. If you don't mind any of these things, then BMPCC6K is probably your winner.
Also BMPCC6K isn't really meant to be used on its own but as part of a larger rig.
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>>4103895
>the sensor is super 35
Ah, I just looked into the sensor and I don't think I like that. Now I'm considering the Sony A7S III. It can do 4k60p 10-bit 4:2:2 and that's probably good enough for me. Smaller resolution sensor compared to the BMPCC6K, but I imagine it'll be fine. Added bonus that I can start collecting Sony lenses for when I inevitably end up buying a nicer Sony camera for photography if Nikon doesn't get their shit together in regards to auto-tracking.
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>>4103916
Oh I forgot to mention the 6K has no AF.
You may want to check out the Lumix S5 and Lumix S1H though. For video they're both superior to the Sony. Internal pro-res and Blackmagic RAW through HDMI with an Atomos monitor. Plus 5.8K capabilities.
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>>4103894
The canon r5 beats it.
Aside from overheating limitations (which are apparently basically fixed now), it does 8kraw and 4k120p.
And then the r5c has the same specs but done more cinema-like.
Of course, the cameras are a lot more expensive and I think they have worse dynamic range.
You also have the canon r3 that does 6k raw 60p and 4k120p. Again, it's a lot more expensive though.
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>>4103946
I don't even know who pushed overheating limitations in the first place, it overheated doing 8k raw. It's was perfectly fine at 4k 60p.
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One thing to recognize is to not get too wrapped up into filmmaking. Getting too wrapped up into it, ruins the joy of not only filmmaking but also the joy of watching a film. You need to have your old self in mind before you picked up a camera how excited you were to watch movies. I admit it can be like cooking burgers at a stressful restaurant for so long that you can't enjoy a decent burger because of how haunted you are of how stressful it was where you ate.
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Is the Sony zv e10 actually good? Im just starting and i wanna make short films. It's like 800 bucks

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>>4104092
Use the camera you want to use not what the internet wants you to use.
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>>4103919
>You may want to check out the Lumix S5 and Lumix S1H though. For video they're both superior to the Sony
I just looked into them, and it looks like they may not be as good for what I want. I specifically want to record full-frame 4k60p. Both the cameras you mentioned seem to require cropping to record 4k60p and have to drop to 4:2:0. I would prefer not to sacrifice my field of view since I will be doing a lot of close-up work. Another thing I noticed is that the Sony a7s IV seems to perform better in rolling shutter tests (although admittedly, this probably wont matter for what I intend to do). I believe it is the low resolution sensor (12.1MP) which enables it to perform so well here.

>>4103946
>canon
I'm looking at Canon cameras for the first time now. It looks like the r5c and the r3 both seem pretty amazing compared to the Sony a7S III, but I'll have to take some time to consider whether the price difference is worth it to me. In practice, will I really notice a significant difference in quality with my 4k being oversampled from a 24.1MP sensor (r3) or 45MP sensor(r5c) vs the 12.1MP sensor (a7siii)?
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>>4104084
>>4104084
Pure fax
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