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And why is it the Nikon D800?
>Excellent dynamic range, color depth, noise, and resolution
>F mount with AF screw drive provides for over 50 years of lens compatibility
>Built like a brick shithouse
>Optional vertical grip if you want it, also built like a brick shithouse

The only thing I don't like on it is the slower than adequate framerate for sports and the mismatched memory card slots. If they had offered it with dual CF and a 8+ FPS frame rate, it would have been truly perfect.
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Because it's the D850.

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>>4081545
9fps RAW with the vert grip too.

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>>4081545
I am too poor for that shit.
>>4081545
Nice! I never realized they were that fast.
t. OP
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>>4081548
What are you talking about, you can get them used for like 1.5-1.6k USD. They're a crazy value.

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>>4081545
based. I got one recently and am trying to decide on lenses to purchase. I have a 50 but I swear it misses focus sometimes. I should have just stuck to Nikkor. I'll probably get a 70-300 zoom next though. This camera is a real chonky boy
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>>4081543
It's one of the best for sure. I'm a Canon fag so I went 5Ds. Despite the crybabies online it has usable DR and good high ISO. (D800 has more DR, it's one of the best there is on DR.) Both render sharp, detailed, MF-like shots. I have no issue recommending the D800, 810, and 850 to people who are in or want to be in the Nikon F mount system. It remains a fantastic deal if you don't want "muh mirrorless animal butthole af."
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>>4081551
Consider an 80-200 2.8, they’re incredible glass for not much. Or a 1st gen 70-200 af-s. Which 50? None of the AF 50s have blown me away. The 1.2 AIS is nice, micro Nikkor 50s are awesome. The 58 1.4 is meant to be awesome but guh, the price. There’s a lot of great older glass for the 850. The 135 f/2 DC is suuuuper cool.

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>>4081552
5Ds are great. You gotta be choosy about the EF glass but most of the L lenses are very nice. 35, 50 and 85 especially. The 24-120 is also pretty good.

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>>4081554
Whoops thought that was from a 5D. This is from a 5Dmk2 (that I must have been borrowing)

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>>4081553
ya there's so many fugging options. Need to get to it. It is a used sigma 50 1.4 art. When it nails the focus, it's great...live view is good, zoom in and box the eye and it gets it but good luck doing that on a kid or a dog. Viewfinder misses it. But I shouldn't be trying to get shots at 1.4 I guess. 2.5 and focus shouldn't be an issue. Whew even used that 58 is pricey.
>80-200, $250 mint from Japan
yo that's nothing.
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>>4081552
>Canon fag so I went 5Ds
Same. 5Dsr here and I love it. The late Nikon's are also great. Looking through glass still beats looking at an lcd.
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the one you have with you
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Bentacks K1 (one)

>>4081554
>>4081555
Generic jew shots which can be done with MFT gear
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>>4081543
https://www.dslrbodies.com/cameras/camera-articles/image-quality/d800-autofocus-problem.html
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>>4081571
>jew shots
can you gtfo?
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>>4081571
there's nothing wrong with being jewish
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>>4081559
>ya there's so many fugging options. Need to get to it. It is a used sigma 50 1.4 art. When it nails the focus, it's great...live view is good, zoom in and box the eye and it gets it but good luck doing that on a kid or a dog. Viewfinder misses it. But I shouldn't be trying to get shots at 1.4 I guess. 2.5 and focus shouldn't be an issue.
At f/1.4 your DoF is getting so thin that any slight movement by you or the subject shifts the plane of focus. If using single shot AF you have to be quick (so the model hasn't accidentally moved) yet also use proper technique (control your breathing, make sure you're not rocking back/forth at all). Another trick is to use tracking AF, as if you were shooting sports, so that if the distance between you and the model does shift slightly the AF will catch/adjust before the shutter releases.

Of course none of this helps if the lens needs a micro adjustment. The modules and software Sigma/Tamron give you generally give you more options than the DSLR micro adjust.
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>>4081543
Pentax K-1 but without the antisemitism
I’m especially fond of the FA 43/1.9 combination
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>>4081729
>Pentax K-1 but without the antisemitism
what did he mean by this?
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>>4081729
I knew there was something I liked about Pentax that I couldn't quite put my finger on.
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It also got a nice grip feelies... The D810 looks the same (it obviously has what the original D800 missed) but it doesn't feel the same in your hands

t. Haver of both
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>>4081568
Only correct answer
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This worth $200, d850 bros ?
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>>4081916
>framerate dependant on battery
What
Thefuck
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>>4081917
yea...the extra battery and grip raises it from 7 to 9. I kind of like that. I like the ergonomics when you shoot portrait mode though. That's pretty cool. I'll save my money for now....
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>>4081916
I like it, particularly with the 70-200 2.8, shooting portrait. Yeah I'd say it's worth it, especially if you shoot video, weddings, or sports.
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I'm thinking about buying a Nikon D750 at about $1000 as my first "enthusiast" camera. I like the ability to shoot 4k video and this is the cheapest one from Nikon I found with this ability.

Is this the best camera at the price point of about $1000?
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The Df because it's the one I have with me
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>>4081555
wait, the fuck? You shot portraits for Bourdain?
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>>4081917
It's magic I ain't gonna explain shit.jpg
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>>4082072
Isn't that a bit expensive? the Z5 brand new is basically the same thing but mirrorless and a hundred less.
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>>4082094
Of, not for. Yup back in college.
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>>4082086
Good one. The Df is awesome. Wish I had one.
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>>4082122
I'm very new to photography, but I was hoping to learn with a DLSR rather than mirrorless. I can look into the Z5 as well though. My budget is around $1000 but I can go a bit over for lenses.
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>>4082151
*DSLR
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>>4082072
if youre ready to drop 1k please just wait and buy the good one for 2k fren. you will 100% regret buying a 1000 dollar camera when you know good and well you just want the good one with the good mp count. buy once cry once. learn it, live it, love it.
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>>4082153
The good one here being the D850?
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>>4082153
if you want a nikon yes, that or a z7 or higher if you wanted to go nikon and mirrorless.
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>>4082154
oops replied to myself, but yeh.
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Damn, all the photographs posted here SUCK.

Maybe think about technique and stuff instead of gear, jerkoffs!
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>>4082157
>$2100 on Amazon
>$2800+ on Nikon's website and their approved retailers
Anyone know why there's such a gap?

https://www.amazon.com/Nikon-D850-FX-Format-Digital-Camera/dp/B07524LHMT/ref=pd_lpo_1?pd_rd_i=B07524LHMT&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/Nikon-D850-Camera-International-Model/dp/B076BXDX5F

Are there different annual releases for this or something?
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>>4082161
One is grey market. Not meant for sale in the US since they price cameras differently according to the market. Nikon will not honor a warranty for those or service them either I think, if sent to Nikon USA.
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>>4082162
I see. Thank you
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>>4082151
>hoping to learn with a DLSR
Then get a cheap one before taking the plunge, the D750 is not a bad choice at all but it is pricey for what it is. I think even a D810 can be had under 1000 unlike the D750 used.
>4k video
The D750 has it i think but it's not in the quality you would expect, also Nikon video was infamous for being a tripod-only, emergency thing. Canon has better video but in my opinion their bodies are not as nice. I would recommend manhandling some of them and then going for the spec reads, the brands have their own idiosyncrasies in terms of button layouts and ergos.
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>>4082159
gear is technique
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just rebought a D700. i can see myself using this camera for another 10 years easily. it just works and it's so cheap so i don't have to worry about it breaking or whatever.

if you've got the money to spend and you want more features/pixels, get the newer models. but if you want the no frills option, it's this bad boy without question.
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>>4082409
I'm right there with you in that I agree that the D700 meets the needs of almost any non-professional photographer. I just happened to have gotten a crusty-ass D3 with more than a half million shutter count for less than $300 a few months ago, and it's my new beater body to bring to ghettos, riots, etc. Only have a 50mm 1.4D for it now, but I will grab a cheap off-brand standard 2.8 zoom to slap on it later. Do you or anyone else here have a recommendation for the best cheap zoom to use? I see various Tamrons and Tokinas in the 24-28 to 70-80mm range going for less than $200 on eBay and MPB frequently, but I don't know which of them are more desirable.
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>>4082430
The one you have with you.
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>>4082161
it might be burning a hole in your pocket but if you can just save a little more and wait for Christmas. the d850 or the z7 body only will 100% go on sale at some point between now and then.
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>>4082430
the 80-200 2.8 and the 35-70 2.8 are pretty cheap and 95% as good as their new counterparts. if you want really cheap i guess you could go for the 28-85 3.5-4.5.
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I own the four best of all time.

Pentax 645Z
Nikon D850
Nikon D3s
Canon 5D
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>>4082636
K-1>D850
D2x>5D
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>>4082638
You need to put more effort into your trollposting, senpai.
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>>4082638
PSR is cool and the astro-features are also cool... but kinda niche, no? Also, 36MP even with PSR aren't going to compete with 45.7MP from a BSI-CMOS sensor.

And you're comparing the Pentax K-mount portfolio of lenses to Nikon F-mount? There's like a metric fuckton more F lenses kicking around from all different eras and the D850 works great with practically all of them (except non-AI'd glass, which only the Df can use unmodified). So again, K-1, super cool camera, but not really in the same league if we're talking 35mm dSLR.
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>>4081553
2nding the 50 1.2 and the 1st gen 70-200 2.8, I have both and they're excellent. The 180 2.8 (AF or MF) and the 105 2.5 are equally good and decent sizes for what you get, with great build quality
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>>4082714
Not a troll
>>4082731
PSR surpasses those 45MP lol
If you want to use vintage lenses you're saying goodbye to weather sealing. If you don't mind that, a simple mod enables the K-1 to mount not just Nikon F but also, Contax/Yashica, Olympus OM, Konica and Four Thirds lenses (while retaining Pentax K compatibility). Pentax K is also very easy to mount M42 glass on, Pentax themselves provide an adapter. And the camera itself is better suited to adapted glass in general.
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>>4083564
>PSR surpasses those 45MP lol
PSR only works under the most narrow of circumstances. As a result it's a gimmick. Still, I wouldn't shit on 36mp. If you want to be in the Pentax system, 36mp is fine.
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>>4082731
>36MP with PSR aren't going to compete with 45.7MP
It easily can, plus the sensor can shift position via menu making it versatile if wanting to correct small verticals without a perspective shifting lens or be more pronounced if paired with. Also bunch of menu customization that easily surpasses Nikon bodies.
>kinda niche, no?
Not really if shooting landscape, architecture or product/studio, which is already half the genres out there. Plus it's not resolution only, it can be used to get near-MF colour information which is handy too.

>Pentax K-mount lenses vs. Nikon F-mount
This is a very valid argument and the reason the full frame digital K-mount never took off that much, it has great native lenses but few options (killing poorfags), low physical availability (killing boomers who want to shop at Best Buy or Target) and high prices (killing eccentric poorfags AND non-first world users who have to save for months to get a 90's era lens) which is a good bunch of legacy Pentax shooters.
>So again, K-1, super cool camera
It is probably the best FF DSLR, which means body-only, as it certainly isn't the best FF ecosystem due to lack of aftermarket and native lens availability. Even the vintage native lenses are either too expensive (Ricoh 50mm f1.2) or radioactive stuff that often might not pass customs in nanny state countries (Takumars, Rikenons)

>>4083564
>a simple mod enables the K-1 to mount not just Nikon F but also, Contax/Yashica, Olympus OM, Konica and Four Thirds
It is pretty tough to get due to very low availability, almost no new copies are around and you have to shop used in the Pentax Forums which is okay but certainly a waiting game.
Other than that it is indeed very simple to install but sadly it doesn't reach infinity in one mount, i forget which, and some others like the F mount do not snap into position, they stay loose and focusing becomes a very sensible affair because the lens might fall.
Do you like grilling by any chance?
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>>4081554
Nice wildlife photo
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Tie for me between the pentax k1 and Nikon D850. Both incredible cameras with old mounts.
Tons of lenses to choose and incredible image quality.
Leaning more towards pentax because their 43mm Limited is just superb.
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>>4081917
Probably related to the amount of power draw nikon is comfortable with allowing from a single battery.
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>>4083571
why yes I love grilling
are you familiar with Brazilian toothpick packaging photography?
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>>4083576
Nice to see you bud, just lurking around in my free day, going to throw those 50mm 1.8 E pics after i buy some snacks.
I re-read the Adaptist K-mount adapter because i have an extreme itch for the camera but the lack of mount snap is killing me, massive dealbreaker to be fair and the native lenses are just too much, said Ricoh f1.2 is thrice the price of the 55mm f1.2, might as well save for a Noct 58mm if we are going to spend that much for every good lens.

I read by some pentaxian that it can be technically possible to make a F-mount ring snap into the K body but that needs some CAD engineering and a metal shop who can do very small details. I can do the former, kinda, but cannot find the latter, perhaps with a 3D printer but i don't know much about their formats or making anything custom regarding cameras/lenses and the Adaptist company went underground some 4 years ago. Because i would need an AF body i also don't want to convert the lenses into K, what a mess.
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>>4083572
kek
>>4083573
yeah a tie is fair
>>4083574
it's pretty common, was also common in the film era
i think newer designs don't depend on battery grips for that
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>>4083571
Didn’t realize the sensor shift enabled perspective correction, that’s cool. You’re selling me on it. Alas I am hopelessly deep in the Nikonosphere. I hope Pentax sticks with it and produces another K-1 without the NR bullshit that plagues the Mark II (I’ve heard). Maybe by then I’ll have the funds to fuck around and find out.
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>>4083582
That's another poster shilling it's virtues after I started but yeah, you get technical camera style perspective correction with it. Still I think for you Nikon is probably the best choice unless you feel like selling most of your stuff, I don't know how viable that is.
I doubt Pentax will go back on the NR thing.
Also the astrotracer works using the IBIS just like the perspective correction.
For adapting stuff the best choice is Canon save for the lack of stabilization but it's a pain in the ass and the noise sucks unless you get a really late model.
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>>4083582
Check insta when you can
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>>4083582
>>4083583
>shilling
They are simply called facts, mister.
But yeah, if you are balls deep into F-mount and you absolutely need autofocus (no manual lens-only experience) then Nikon is the best/only choice until Nikon releases a screwdriver adapter for the Z mount and on a body with manual sensor movement and pixel shift.
Or a D880 with said features plus stuff that was on the D780 like the film scanning mode. Photos only of course, in terms of video any Z mount body or the D780 will bat the K1 out of the park.

>I doubt Pentax will go back on the NR thing.
They did with the K3 III, that's the surprising thing >>4083118
Their next FF body needs to be the ultimate DSLR with another blockbuster feature, akin to what the K1mkI was with the IBIS, for it to compete at all. Ricoh probably isn't too bothered because they are selling the GRIII for a massive profit taking into account it's a cheapo point and shoot body with an old K5 sensor.
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>>4083582
Pentax should make DSLR bodies in F mount and EF mount. They couldn't possibly get tripped up on patents now. Better yet: make a single DSLR body that can take screw on adapters for K, F, and EF. The adapter rings don't have to be thick because all the components would be in the body they're made to lock onto. So make the base "adaptable mount" as shallow as needed, even behind the mirror if necessary, because you can't attach a lens without an adapter ring.

I fucking love my 5Ds and am looking to buy a 2nd used one as a backup. Or a refurb if Canon ever gets more. But I would seriously consider a Pentax DSLR with:
>latest 45mp sensor
>all their sensor shift features
>screw on an adapter ring for any of three mounts
They can capitalize an all the people in F and EF who prefer an OVF and their existing lenses.

>>4083583
>For adapting stuff the best choice is Canon save for the lack of stabilization but it's a pain in the ass and the noise sucks unless you get a really late model.
The 5D3, 6D2, and RP have shitty base ISO shadow noise. The 5Ds/sR aren't the best but are perfectly serviceable here. The 5D4, 1DX3, and R6 are quite good. You can measure a difference vs. D850/Z7/A7rIV but practically it's about the same. And the R5 measures as good as anything out there.
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>>4083590
Wanted to add: if my three-way adaptable DSLR idea is just impossible, I would still consider a Pentax DSLR with the latest 45mp sensor and an EF mount.
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>>4083587
What for?
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>>4083583
Hmm selling all my stuff.
For Nikon F that would be:
50mm f/1.2 AI-S
55mm f/2.8 micro nikkor + extension tube
35mm f/2 AF-D
135mm f/2 AF-D DC
70-200 f/2.8 AF-S VR gen 1
1.4X Nikon TC, I forget the full name, I also never use it.
D850 body
Then there’s the Z6, FTZ, 24-70 f/4, and a Leica M to Z adapter…

Not sure what I’d replace all that gear with. Fuji GFX? Meh. M11? Meh. Idk, it’s solid kit and I’ll probably just use it till it breaks or is stolen.
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>>4083590
>And the R5 measures as good as anything out there.
Z7 takes it for a spin in shadow recovery and high ISO neutrality, but the R5 has better AF on video and better video to begin with although supposedly with slow to edit codecs.
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>>4083592
You got a secret handshake without knowing it, just fuhgeddaboudit
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>>4083593
your kit is too first rate to swap systems, not worth it
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>>4083598
If anything I want to get back into the MF world now that I’ve got a studio space.
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>>4083598
Indeed but if he doesn't use his Z6 nor its accessories he can change them for a K1 and a couple of good lenses, that is if he doesn't use it at all but it still would be too similar to the D850 in terms of image quality as some of those F lenses are as good (35mm f2, 70-200mkI) or better (rest of them) than their K counterparts.
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>>4083599
>MF world
X2D
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>>4083603
Let him save until a real digital MF sensor comes around that isn't a Phase One...
Or Bentacks 645Z :^)
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>>4083613
>that isn't a Phase One
H6D-100 and 400 are larger MF sensors
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>thought my multi selector was busted because it indented more to the right than the left
>check Amazon photos, its the same
What the fuck. At the same time I'm happy mine is normal that's weird it's like this.
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>>4083757
ergos
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>>4083618
That is actually 4 sensors stitched together, you can see the pattern when pushing extreme amounts
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>>4083909
>stitched
what is your definition of "stitch" here?
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>>4083918
picrel is GFX 50S sensor for example
These huge sensors are very difficult to manufacture as a single slab so they are made out of smaller parts that are stitched together (welded)

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>>4083935
no, it's a single piece of silicon. the reticle/photomask needed to create a single large die would be too large for the machines (along with lower quality) so they use smaller individual photomasks and expose the wafer multiple times for a single "stiched" die. the only time that sensor was cut was on the outer edges. It wasn't cut into 4 individual die then fused together.
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>>4083935
Ive never seen levels of pixelpeeping this autistic
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>>4083935
Damn I'll bear that in mind when I'm making 8 minute long exposures.
>>4084050
FUJI = Fucked Up Just Individual (Sensors That Have Been Stitched Together)
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>>4084070
>deleted
imagine trolling so hard you don't even remember which of your troll threads you're in anymore.
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>>4084147
No, I misclicked on the index page
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>>4084167
sure thing, troll
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Ever since getting a DSLR I feel pressured to make my shots amazing, and I end up taking none. When I had a compact I hated I took photos of just anything because it was so easy.
How to fix?
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>>4084333
Get a nice comfy strap, wear it and keep it turned on. You need to lower the barrier to composing a photograph. Keep it ready and study it. It's a complex and powerful instrument and the more you learn it the more shots you'll take.

Your shitty compact didn't get in between you and the photos. They're clunky when you're new to them but once you learn a probody it disappears into you and your work like any other fine instrument.
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>>4083595
>Z7 takes it for a spin in shadow recovery
No it does not in stills. Pic related. It might in video, idk, I don't keep up with the log formats, though I think the R5 got Canon's current best log.

>and high ISO neutrality,
Looking at them in dpreview's tool at ISO 100k the Z7 looks a bit more neutral, but the difference could be trivial to correct in post.

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Pentax K10D with the mirror fix
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>>4084981
>instrument
What does it measure?
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>>4085066
light
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>>4085033
You didn't need to butt destroy him that hard
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>>4081545
Wish I was a trust fund baby
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>>4085116
it's not about being rich, it's about prioritizing.
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Still going strong at 240k clicks.

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>>4085116
>t. NEET
Ever tried working a job?
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>>4085116
>D850
>trust fund baby
Maybe if you live in Africa or South America.
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>>4085141
Thanks for being the voice of reason in such hellhole this place is.
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>>4085116
Just get a K-1
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>>4085116
>$2000 for a used camera is out of reach for some people on here
lol. Get off of 4chan and focus on your life.
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>>4085165
>>4085175
>>4085235
STFU trust fund faggots
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>>4081543
Wrong... It's either the D850 or 1DXmkll.
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>>4085148
Am I the only one who can't deal with those horseshit small 20-30 liter bags and cases?
I have an 80L fstop bag and the biggest foam case I could find.
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>>4085245
Well I dont want to carry any bigger bag every day. Thats Lowepro Protactic 450 AW II and it fits all the bullshit I need. Two lenses and two bodies. Batteries, laptop, chargers, spare socks... etc. I'm that kind of special tard that I edit and deliver photos between shoots so laptop is a must.

Tell me about what kind of autism you have?
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>>4085284
I'm a gearfag with fake OCD. I like to have everything I might need with me and I triple check every single little thing in my bags and/or cases before I go. Also, I used all my savings, sold one of my cars and cut on meals, food and drinks for 5 months, just so I can afford the 600mm, which I used probably 4(?) times in the last 4-5 years.

There's probably much more autism but I can't think right now.
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>>4085300
Oh yeah and I also force my clients, usually models, to do the same shoot 4 or sometimes 5 times in a row, because I have this thing where my brain tells me that I need to get the same composition or posing with different focal lengths, so I always carry 4 or 5 lenses with me but then because of my fake OCD, my brain also tells me that I ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO use all of the lenses I brought with me, so I always end up doing psychological tricks on my clients to force them to do the same shit 4-5 times.

Best part is; I have yet to receive a complaint or a bad review or whatever.
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>>4085300
I also used to take shit ton of lenses everywhere I went. After a while I figured out that the normos dont really see a difference in image quality if you shoot with a 105mm f1.4 or 2.8. So I ditched my primes and stuck with the zooms. My back is much happier.



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