I FUCKING HATE ASTROPHOTOGRAPHY I SPENT 20000 EUROS ON STUPID GEAR JUST TO TAKE THIS SHITTY IMAGE OF SOMETHING FAR I HATE MY LIFE AND I ALSO SPENT 2 TIMES THE NORMAL PRICE BECAUSE I LIVE IN THE WORST COUNTRY WHERE NO ONE LIKES ASTROPHOTOGRAPHY SO I DON´T FIND SECOND HAND TELESCOPES AND MOUNTS AND CAMERAS AAAAAAAAAAAAAA I HATE IT SO MUCH
yeah fuck that, if i was doing astrophotography i would just search for aliens
watch my wife's show to spark joy back into astronomy
I love it personally but i know i can never beat what Hubble or James webb can take so i just look up really nice images. What’s the point of spending all that money and get the exact same angle of something but 1000x worse? Don’t get me wrong. I have a great camera and a couple of massive zooms, and i set it all up on a tripod and look up and take some shots from time to time, but i would never go full retard and spend 20k on it. And i don’t bother stacking more than 10 images. I love looking up and enjoying the universe but i just can’t beat what’s out there
>>4067352That's a great image. If I was near Schafmatt Observatory I'd love to take a tour
>>4067352I wish I could take photos like that. For 2k, you're getting off easy, especially if you can take pictures like that. I'm like 3k in and still just doing viewing. I've tried to get good shots a few times, but I just can't. There's always something I'm missing, even when i'm sure i'm not
>>4068033OP said 20000 Euro, 20k which in astro terms isn't that crazy
Waste of money unless you're an actual astronomer. Congrats you took a photo of something that has already been shot a million times by telescopes on top of mountains with thousands of times the magnification that you have.
>>4067352sell ur gear and start doing this
>>4067369>What's the point of learning if other people know more than youUp your grindset
>whats the point of doing a thing if its been done better alreadyholy fucking brainlets itt, you wouldn't go to /sp/ and tell everyone to stop giving a shit about professional sportball because they don't play it themselves, or go to /fit/ and just post pictures of arnold and say 'youll never do this so whats the point'its about challenging yourself and improving your technique, collaborating with others to get better results, and most importantly having a workflow that is entirely your choice, even if you are constrained by budget you can do some great photography if you know how to get the most out of it[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Camera SoftwareGIMP 2.10.14Image-Specific Properties:Horizontal Resolution72 dpiVertical Resolution72 dpiImage Created2022:08:07 17:12:18Color Space InformationsRGB
>>4067352got this one just recently with an unmodified APS-C DSLR, and a star tracker I got off ebay for 20% retail price.[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeCanonCamera ModelEOS 250DCamera Softwarepaint.net 4.3.11Image-Specific Properties:Horizontal Resolution300 dpiVertical Resolution300 dpiImage Created2022:08:09 23:31:24Exposure Time5885.0 secF-Numberf/5.0ISO Speed Rating3200Lens Aperturef/5.0Exposure Bias0 EVFlashNo FlashFocal Length135.00 mmColor Space InformationsRGB
>>4069997It's just idiotic Americans saying that. They literally cannot comprehend art for arts sake, so they say "if you can't make money off the images because they've been done before, why bother"
I don't get the "it's already ben photographed" mindset from people who don't do astrophotography but still feel like they have an opinion that matters. Do you think that those photos you take of trees or rivers are unique? No one has taken a shot of a squirrel or side of a building before?
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Literally played around in the back yard tonight. Didn't realize there was a photography board. Heading on a canoe trip on Monday, ill report bake if this thread is still around.[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeSONYCamera ModelILCE-7CCamera SoftwareAdobe Photoshop Lightroom Classic 11.5 (Windows)Maximum Lens Aperturef/2.8Focal Length (35mm Equiv)28 mmImage-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution240 dpiVertical Resolution240 dpiImage Created2022:08:21 00:16:37Exposure Time8 secF-Numberf/2.8Exposure ProgramManualISO Speed Rating400Lens Aperturef/2.8Brightness-9.7 EVExposure Bias0 EVMetering ModePatternLight SourceUnknownFlashNo Flash, CompulsoryFocal Length28.00 mmColor Space InformationsRGBRenderingNormalExposure ModeManualWhite BalanceAutoScene Capture TypeStandardContrastNormalSaturationNormalSharpnessNormal
>>4071175Nice details, what setup did you use?
i bought a cheap secondhand canon 450d and the 50mm f/1.8 lens to do some unguided astrophotography, thinking about getting a dovetail and red dot finder for my equatorial mount so i can move the camera and stack a bunch of images, dont want to spend too much yet on stuff like a star tracker etcpic related: 5s exposure straight from the camera turned out better than i expected but noticable trails if you zoom in[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Image-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-Hand
>>4071368>dont want to spend too much yetThat's how the rabbit hole starts anon
>>4069015agreed, astro is pointless unless you're incorporating astro into photography like pic related
>>4071368>but noticable trails if you zoom inYou'll need a robotic arm to avoid thatBecause you're not going to have the pulse to track a star properly
Finally able to take a few shots of Saturn. Hopefully the coming days will be better conditions.
>>4071906Why does the milky way look like it’s way over there and we’re not a part of it? I dont understand the pov and am curious..
>>4067352looks really good to me bro, I just broke my tripod trying to align my cheap tele scope and startracker with Mars :-)
>>4067352This is unironically the best shot in the entire thread and, in general amateur astrophotography, a great image.So if this is the result of your 20k worth of gear, it is worth it and I'd be proud.Then again, astrophotography is not exactly easy and it requires long hours of exposure to obtain something like that, let alone the knowledge involved... I have my doubts about someone posting like this but delivering such an image.To me this picture is much more worthy than shitty digital compositions such as>>4069138>>4071906watermarks, distorted field, sliders pulled into insanity, fake orton effect... come on.
For its ease, astrophotography is one of the funnest parts of owning a camera[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Camera SoftwarePhotoshop Express 220.127.116.1185Image-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution72 dpiVertical Resolution72 dpiImage Created2022:07:05 01:42:56Color Space InformationsRGBImage Width3632Image Height2196Scene Capture TypeStandard
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>>4073535Maksutov masterrace, go full Eggy.[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakePENTAXCamera ModelPENTAX K-5Camera SoftwareRawTherapeePhotographerAndrew Wade EglingtonSensing MethodOne-Chip Color AreaFocal Length (35mm Equiv)750 mmImage-Specific Properties:Image Width341Image Height512Compression SchemeUncompressedPixel CompositionRGBImage OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution300 dpiVertical Resolution300 dpiImage Data ArrangementChunky FormatImage Created2012:04:18 12:24:39Exposure Time1/250 secF-Numberf/6.3Exposure ProgramAperture PriorityISO Speed Rating80Exposure Bias0 EVMetering ModeCenter Weighted AverageFlashNo FlashFocal Length500.00 mmRenderingNormalExposure ModeAutoWhite BalanceAutoScene Capture TypeStandardContrastNormalSaturationNormalSharpnessNormalSubject Distance RangeUnknown
>>4069138What kind of gear do you need for this?
>>4073612DSLR, tripod, fast wide angle objective and image processing software.
>>4073535All 3 are good, just for different applications. Refractors are good for wide field astrophotography down as wide as 200mm or even lower if using a camera lens. However a good triplet refractor will be very expensive once you get up to larger apertures but will give fantastic images. You also have the advantage of having no diffraction spikes.Reflectors such as Newtonians give you good aperture and fast focal ratios at focal lengths upward of 600mm and will be good so long as the mirrors are high quality and well collimated. You also have Ritchey Chretiens and classical cassegrains which will give you longer focal lengths so will be better for imaging smaller objects such as smaller nebulae, galaxies, globular clusters and planets. They also have the benefit of being optically folded designs so are more compact and easy to handle.SCT's owing to their long focal lengths are good for planetary as well as smaller nebulae, galaxies and globular clusters. A good focal reducer will give a faster focal ratio for deep sky astrophotography and there is the option of hyperstar with many of the Celestron SCT's to image at F2 and much shorter focal lengths.
>>4071251Got back fri night. Did some time lapses really the first time trying anything like this.
>>4074129Fuck the webm was to big. Here's a smaller one.
As long as there is an astro thread, i may as well ask here too.I have some relatively cheap gear, an EQ3 mount with simple motors on it. My problem is, i have no idea how to get my little motors and remote to work with PHD2 or any guiding software. I have a ZWO guide camera with ST4 port, and the remote for the motors also has ST4 port. But i have no idea what driver i need or how to get PHD2 to move the fucking motors. Can anyone help me?Pic related, it's my gear.[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Image-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-Hand
>>4075969That mount setup won't get you goto functionality (you would need to locate the targets yourself) but should be able to do autoguiding. You would need to connect the guide camera to the red control box auto guider port using an ST4 cable. Then you would connect the guide camera to your pc via a usb cable. A ZWO camera should either have a usb-b or usb-c port. The camera should install it's own driver automatically. But if it doesn't you should be able to find them on the ZWO website.https://astronomy-imaging-camera.com/software-driversFor goto functionality you would need the "SKYWATCHER EQ3-2 SYNSCAN PRO GOTO UPGRADE KIT" rather than the simple motor drive you have now.
>>4067352God damn dude I love that, astro gets my dick hard. Setting up for the Artemis launch today, be jelly.
>>4067352do you own any equipment, or are you just mad photography requires middleclass expendible income?
>>4076095there needs to be a calendar thread for various subjects. btw it was scrubbed again, no jelly
>>4067369Every photo you have ever taken is always going to have been taken.Every meal you have made has been made before.At your level of retarded statement, everything is done.In reality, however, what you do in each moment is a creation of its own, regardless of if you've done it the same way eight hundred thousand fucking times. It will always be different.Use your fucking brain, you utter retard.
>>4072829What lens did you use for this?
guess I'll post some shitD800 + nikkor af-s ed 70-200mm, untracked with 500~ 1.6 second lights + calibration frames[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Camera SoftwareGIMP 2.10.24Image-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution240 dpiVertical Resolution240 dpiImage Created2022:09:09 11:37:38Color Space InformationsRGB
D800 + Sigma Art 28mm f/1.4[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeNikonCamera ModelD800Camera SoftwareGIMP 2.10.24Focal Length (35mm Equiv)28 mmImage-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution240 dpiVertical Resolution240 dpiImage Created2022:09:11 22:24:02Exposure Time180 secF-Numberf/2.2ISO Speed Rating3200Lens Aperturef/2.2Exposure Bias0 EVFlashNo Flash, CompulsoryFocal Length28.00 mmColor Space InformationsRGB
D800 + nikkor af-s ed 70-200mm, untracked with 1300~ 1.6 second lights + calibration frames[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Camera SoftwareGIMP 2.10.24Image-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution240 dpiVertical Resolution240 dpiImage Created2022:09:11 22:25:53Color Space InformationsRGB
D800 + Sigma Art 28mm f/1.4[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeNikonCamera ModelD800Camera SoftwareGIMP 2.10.24Focal Length (35mm Equiv)28 mmImage-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution240 dpiVertical Resolution240 dpiImage Created2022:09:11 22:29:37Exposure Time114 secF-Numberf/1.4ISO Speed Rating800Lens Aperturef/1.4Exposure Bias0 EVFlashNo Flash, CompulsoryFocal Length28.00 mmColor Space InformationsRGB
planet collageD800 + 8 inch dob + 3x barlow[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Camera SoftwareGIMP 2.10.24Image-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution72 dpiVertical Resolution72 dpiImage Created2022:09:07 23:21:26Color Space InformationsRGB
D800 + 8 inch dob + 2x barlow[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Camera SoftwareGIMP 2.10.24Image-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution240 dpiVertical Resolution240 dpiImage Created2022:09:11 22:32:17Color Space InformationsRGB
ASI174mm + Lunt 40[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Camera SoftwareGIMP 2.10.24Image-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution72 dpiVertical Resolution72 dpiImage Created2022:09:11 18:20:10Color Space InformationsRGB
>>4078784ZWO ASI1600MM-coolSamyang 135mm F2.0 (at F2.8)Baader 7nm H-alpha filter20x120s exposures+darks, flats, dark flats.
>>4078788Skywatcher Evostar 72ed ds-proZWO ASI1600MM-coolOptolong LRGB filtersL - 28x120sR - 30x120sG - 30x120sB - 30x120s+darks, flats, dark flatsFrom city back garden (~bortle 6)
Literally a Handheld shot of Orion. It's not meant to be a great picture, I just wanted to see if could be done. It's a 4-second single exposure taken using my car door as a brace whilst holding my breath. Canon EOS M (2012) mirrorless camera + EF 100-400mmL II lens. I just dug the image out the other day and used Topaz software to take out the movement of the stars. A red-dot sight attached to the camera hotshoe showed me what I was aiming for.These days I use an CGX mount. Still haven't needed to buy a telescope though.[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeCanonCamera ModelCanon EOS MCamera SoftwareAdobe Photoshop 22.5 (Macintosh)Maximum Lens Aperturef/5.7Image-Specific Properties:Image Width4000Image Height2666Number of Bits Per Component8, 8, 8Compression SchemeUnknownPixel CompositionRGBImage OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution72 dpiVertical Resolution72 dpiImage Data ArrangementChunky FormatImage Created2022:09:13 02:10:38Exposure Time4 secF-Numberf/5.6Exposure ProgramManualISO Speed Rating6400Lens Aperturef/5.7Exposure Bias0 EVMetering ModePatternFlashNo Flash, CompulsoryFocal Length400.00 mmColor Space InformationsRGBImage Width4000Image Height2666RenderingNormalExposure ModeManualWhite BalanceAutoScene Capture TypeStandard
A 15 second exposure - technically two shots. One for the tiny bright core of Orion, which usually washes out the detail. One for the wide field shot. Canon EOS M6 mirrorless camera + EF 100-400mmL II lens (not fully extended, to keep the aperture wider at f/5). Shot with a tracking mount with no guidance. Essentially a single shot exposure if not for that tiny element of the core. Great to be able to take a shot like this without any major stacking or guidance. The turquoise color was unexpected.[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeCanonCamera ModelCanon EOS M6Camera SoftwareAdobe Photoshop CS6 (Macintosh)Maximum Lens Aperturef/5.0Sensing MethodOne-Chip Color AreaImage-Specific Properties:Image Width6000Image Height4000Number of Bits Per Component8, 8, 8Compression SchemeUncompressedImage OrientationTop, Left-HandImage Data ArrangementChunky FormatImage Created2021:01:20 00:42:29Exposure Time15 secF-Numberf/5.0Exposure ProgramManualISO Speed Rating6400Lens Aperturef/5.0Exposure Bias0 EVMetering ModePatternFlashNo Flash, CompulsoryFocal Length300.00 mmColor Space InformationsRGBImage Width3000Image Height2000RenderingNormalExposure ModeManualWhite BalanceAutoScene Capture TypeStandard
Just got an Asiair in after a 7 month wait. The polar alignment and easy autoguiding are so fucking nice. Going from 45 seconds to 180 with sharp shots is really awesome.Looking to practice with it more later tonight. Wish I had this for galaxy season.[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Camera SoftwareAndroid SP1A.210812.016.G996USQU5CVCGImage-Specific Properties:Image Width2400Image Height1080Image OrientationUnknown
Just dumping stuff in the meantime.>>4067357What's the title?>>4078788>>4078784Sick that it's untracked. What's your light pollution situation?>>4074139That's fucking awesome. How long were the individual exposures?>>4071175Lovely colors and details.>>4070013Very nice.>>4081629I still need to do a composite Orion myself. How do you go about blending in the two photos?>>4081625Still a nice shot, especially considering no mount and single exposure.[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Camera Softwarepaint.net 4.2.13Image-Specific Properties:Horizontal Resolution96 dpiVertical Resolution96 dpi
>>4082303Also tried a cheap Orion LP filter I picked up without doing any real research into it. Didn't really know what I was doing with it.
>>4071368get a laser pointer and mount it to your hot shoe
>>4071927It used to be done manually like that. You'd use a second scope to check that the stars aren't moving in the frame, usually the same field of view as the imaging scope has.>>4071368I don't think that's only star trails, if at all. If you're shooting wide open, the stars can have aberrations. With 50mm, you should be able to get about 10 second exposures without visible trailing. Try stopping the lense down a stop or two and see if it improves.
>>4071368>noticable trails if you zoom inI'm not seeing trails, I'm seeing coma from your lens being wide open. stopping it down a bit should tighten up those stars.
I bought a 75€ equatorial wedge and the 200€ Omegon LX3 mechanical trackerThen I used my 6D with my tamron 90mm macro lens.Took this image in 2 hours from a bortle 3 zone.
Huh that's the worst
>>4072049because the closest star is 40000000000000km away, that's 13 zerosThe galaxy is a whole lot of nothing
>>4078791Did you use an atmospheric dispersion corrector? I always get fringing when trying to image the planets.
>>4071906gotta be the dome making that effect right? right guys? guys the earth is flat.
>>4068033>There's always something I'm missingexample?
>>4076681Sigma 30 1.4
Astrophotography is a purely technical challenge that can provide enormous satisfaction (and frustration) with constant margin for improvement. Even if you only shoot the most accessible objects. On the other hand it does not allow you tu be as creative as "regular" photography.
Can someone give me a QR on the bare minimum for tracking?is there some $50 DIY solution that just works for amateurs as I do NOT want to spend hundreds of Bidenbux on gear.
>>4067352astrophotography is cringe because you can't control two most important factors in photography - composition and light.
>>4085190Good luck finding a smooth motor for $50
Glad I had 3 whole clear nights to leave my rig out. Made it so much easier to get a handful of subs of a few targets.>>4085190Assuming you're doing camera lens, you can make a barn door tracking mount with some wood and a hinge. The only caveat is you have to track manually. With shorter focal lengths, it's not an issue, I think.