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I FUCKING HATE ASTROPHOTOGRAPHY I SPENT 20000 EUROS ON STUPID GEAR JUST TO TAKE THIS SHITTY IMAGE OF SOMETHING FAR I HATE MY LIFE AND I ALSO SPENT 2 TIMES THE NORMAL PRICE BECAUSE I LIVE IN THE WORST COUNTRY WHERE NO ONE LIKES ASTROPHOTOGRAPHY SO I DON´T FIND SECOND HAND TELESCOPES AND MOUNTS AND CAMERAS AAAAAAAAAAAAAA I HATE IT SO MUCH
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yeah fuck that, if i was doing astrophotography i would just search for aliens
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meh
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watch my wife's show to spark joy back into astronomy
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I love it personally but i know i can never beat what Hubble or James webb can take so i just look up really nice images. What’s the point of spending all that money and get the exact same angle of something but 1000x worse? Don’t get me wrong. I have a great camera and a couple of massive zooms, and i set it all up on a tripod and look up and take some shots from time to time, but i would never go full retard and spend 20k on
it.

And i don’t bother stacking more than 10 images. I love looking up and enjoying the universe but i just can’t beat what’s out there
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>>4067352
That's a great image. If I was near Schafmatt Observatory I'd love to take a tour
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>>4067352
I wish I could take photos like that.

For 2k, you're getting off easy, especially if you can take pictures like that. I'm like 3k in and still just doing viewing. I've tried to get good shots a few times, but I just can't. There's always something I'm missing, even when i'm sure i'm not
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>>4068033
OP said 20000 Euro, 20k which in astro terms isn't that crazy
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Waste of money unless you're an actual astronomer. Congrats you took a photo of something that has already been shot a million times by telescopes on top of mountains with thousands of times the magnification that you have.
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>>4067352
sell ur gear and start doing this
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>>4067369
>What's the point of learning if other people know more than you
Up your grindset
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>whats the point of doing a thing if its been done better already
holy fucking brainlets itt, you wouldn't go to /sp/ and tell everyone to stop giving a shit about professional sportball because they don't play it themselves, or go to /fit/ and just post pictures of arnold and say 'youll never do this so whats the point'
its about challenging yourself and improving your technique, collaborating with others to get better results, and most importantly having a workflow that is entirely your choice, even if you are constrained by budget you can do some great photography if you know how to get the most out of it

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>>4067352
got this one just recently with an unmodified APS-C DSLR, and a star tracker I got off ebay for 20% retail price.

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>>4069997
It's just idiotic Americans saying that. They literally cannot comprehend art for arts sake, so they say "if you can't make money off the images because they've been done before, why bother"
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I don't get the "it's already ben photographed" mindset from people who don't do astrophotography but still feel like they have an opinion that matters. Do you think that those photos you take of trees or rivers are unique? No one has taken a shot of a squirrel or side of a building before?
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a bit messy overall but im happy with it

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Literally played around in the back yard tonight. Didn't realize there was a photography board. Heading on a canoe trip on Monday, ill report bake if this thread is still around.

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>>4071175
Nice details, what setup did you use?
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i bought a cheap secondhand canon 450d and the 50mm f/1.8 lens to do some unguided astrophotography, thinking about getting a dovetail and red dot finder for my equatorial mount so i can move the camera and stack a bunch of images, dont want to spend too much yet on stuff like a star tracker etc

pic related: 5s exposure straight from the camera turned out better than i expected but noticable trails if you zoom in

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>>4071368
>dont want to spend too much yet
That's how the rabbit hole starts anon
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>>4069015
agreed, astro is pointless unless you're incorporating astro into photography like pic related
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>>4071368
>but noticable trails if you zoom in
You'll need a robotic arm to avoid that
Because you're not going to have the pulse to track a star properly
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Finally able to take a few shots of Saturn. Hopefully the coming days will be better conditions.
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>>4071906
Cringe
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>>4071906
Why does the milky way look like it’s way over there and we’re not a part of it? I dont understand the pov and am curious..
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>>4072049
UWA shot
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>>4067352
looks really good to me bro, I just broke my tripod trying to align my cheap tele scope and startracker with Mars :-)
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>>4067352
This is unironically the best shot in the entire thread and, in general amateur astrophotography, a great image.
So if this is the result of your 20k worth of gear, it is worth it and I'd be proud.
Then again, astrophotography is not exactly easy and it requires long hours of exposure to obtain something like that, let alone the knowledge involved... I have my doubts about someone posting like this but delivering such an image.
To me this picture is much more worthy than shitty digital compositions such as
>>4069138
>>4071906
watermarks, distorted field, sliders pulled into insanity, fake orton effect... come on.
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For its ease, astrophotography is one of the funnest parts of owning a camera

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Discuss
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>>4073535
Maksutov masterrace, go full Eggy.

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>>4069138
What kind of gear do you need for this?
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>>4073612
DSLR, tripod, fast wide angle objective and image processing software.
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>>4073535
All 3 are good, just for different applications.
Refractors are good for wide field astrophotography down as wide as 200mm or even lower if using a camera lens. However a good triplet refractor will be very expensive once you get up to larger apertures but will give fantastic images. You also have the advantage of having no diffraction spikes.
Reflectors such as Newtonians give you good aperture and fast focal ratios at focal lengths upward of 600mm and will be good so long as the mirrors are high quality and well collimated. You also have Ritchey Chretiens and classical cassegrains which will give you longer focal lengths so will be better for imaging smaller objects such as smaller nebulae, galaxies, globular clusters and planets. They also have the benefit of being optically folded designs so are more compact and easy to handle.
SCT's owing to their long focal lengths are good for planetary as well as smaller nebulae, galaxies and globular clusters. A good focal reducer will give a faster focal ratio for deep sky astrophotography and there is the option of hyperstar with many of the Celestron SCT's to image at F2 and much shorter focal lengths.
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>>4071251
Got back fri night. Did some time lapses really the first time trying anything like this.
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>>4074129
Fuck the webm was to big. Here's a smaller one.
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As long as there is an astro thread, i may as well ask here too.
I have some relatively cheap gear, an EQ3 mount with simple motors on it. My problem is, i have no idea how to get my little motors and remote to work with PHD2 or any guiding software. I have a ZWO guide camera with ST4 port, and the remote for the motors also has ST4 port. But i have no idea what driver i need or how to get PHD2 to move the fucking motors.
Can anyone help me?
Pic related, it's my gear.

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>>4075969
That mount setup won't get you goto functionality (you would need to locate the targets yourself) but should be able to do autoguiding. You would need to connect the guide camera to the red control box auto guider port using an ST4 cable. Then you would connect the guide camera to your pc via a usb cable. A ZWO camera should either have a usb-b or usb-c port. The camera should install it's own driver automatically. But if it doesn't you should be able to find them on the ZWO website.
https://astronomy-imaging-camera.com/software-drivers
For goto functionality you would need the "SKYWATCHER EQ3-2 SYNSCAN PRO GOTO UPGRADE KIT" rather than the simple motor drive you have now.
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>>4067352

God damn dude I love that, astro gets my dick hard. Setting up for the Artemis launch today, be jelly.
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>>4067352
do you own any equipment, or are you just mad photography requires middleclass expendible income?
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>>4076095
there needs to be a calendar thread for various subjects. btw it was scrubbed again, no jelly
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>>4076148

sad
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>>4067369
Every photo you have ever taken is always going to have been taken.
Every meal you have made has been made before.

At your level of retarded statement, everything is done.

In reality, however, what you do in each moment is a creation of its own, regardless of if you've done it the same way eight hundred thousand fucking times. It will always be different.

Use your fucking brain, you utter retard.
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>>4072829
What lens did you use for this?
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guess I'll post some shit
D800 + nikkor af-s ed 70-200mm, untracked with 500~ 1.6 second lights + calibration frames

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D800 + Sigma Art 28mm f/1.4

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D800 + nikkor af-s ed 70-200mm, untracked with 1300~ 1.6 second lights + calibration frames

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D800 + Sigma Art 28mm f/1.4

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planet collage
D800 + 8 inch dob + 3x barlow

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D800 + 8 inch dob + 2x barlow

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ASI174mm + Lunt 40

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>>4078784
ZWO ASI1600MM-cool
Samyang 135mm F2.0 (at F2.8)
Baader 7nm H-alpha filter
20x120s exposures
+darks, flats, dark flats.
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>>4078788
Skywatcher Evostar 72ed ds-pro
ZWO ASI1600MM-cool
Optolong LRGB filters
L - 28x120s
R - 30x120s
G - 30x120s
B - 30x120s
+darks, flats, dark flats
From city back garden (~bortle 6)
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Literally a Handheld shot of Orion. It's not meant to be a great picture, I just wanted to see if could be done. It's a 4-second single exposure taken using my car door as a brace whilst holding my breath. Canon EOS M (2012) mirrorless camera + EF 100-400mmL II lens. I just dug the image out the other day and used Topaz software to take out the movement of the stars. A red-dot sight attached to the camera hotshoe showed me what I was aiming for.

These days I use an CGX mount. Still haven't needed to buy a telescope though.

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A 15 second exposure - technically two shots. One for the tiny bright core of Orion, which usually washes out the detail. One for the wide field shot. Canon EOS M6 mirrorless camera + EF 100-400mmL II lens (not fully extended, to keep the aperture wider at f/5). Shot with a tracking mount with no guidance.

Essentially a single shot exposure if not for that tiny element of the core. Great to be able to take a shot like this without any major stacking or guidance. The turquoise color was unexpected.

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>>4070027
>20000€
>American
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Just got an Asiair in after a 7 month wait. The polar alignment and easy autoguiding are so fucking nice. Going from 45 seconds to 180 with sharp shots is really awesome.

Looking to practice with it more later tonight. Wish I had this for galaxy season.

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Just dumping stuff in the meantime.

>>4067357
What's the title?

>>4078788
>>4078784
Sick that it's untracked. What's your light pollution situation?

>>4074139
That's fucking awesome. How long were the individual exposures?

>>4071175
Lovely colors and details.

>>4070013
Very nice.

>>4081629
I still need to do a composite Orion myself. How do you go about blending in the two photos?

>>4081625
Still a nice shot, especially considering no mount and single exposure.

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>>4082303
Also tried a cheap Orion LP filter I picked up without doing any real research into it. Didn't really know what I was doing with it.
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>>4071368
get a laser pointer and mount it to your hot shoe
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>>4071927
It used to be done manually like that. You'd use a second scope to check that the stars aren't moving in the frame, usually the same field of view as the imaging scope has.

>>4071368
I don't think that's only star trails, if at all. If you're shooting wide open, the stars can have aberrations. With 50mm, you should be able to get about 10 second exposures without visible trailing.

Try stopping the lense down a stop or two and see if it improves.
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>>4071368
>noticable trails if you zoom in
I'm not seeing trails, I'm seeing coma from your lens being wide open. stopping it down a bit should tighten up those stars.
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I bought a 75€ equatorial wedge and the 200€ Omegon LX3 mechanical tracker

Then I used my 6D with my tamron 90mm macro lens.

Took this image in 2 hours from a bortle 3 zone.
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Huh that's the worst
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>>4082657
DAT IFN
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>>4072049
because the closest star is 40000000000000km away, that's 13 zeros
The galaxy is a whole lot of nothing
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>>4078791
Did you use an atmospheric dispersion corrector? I always get fringing when trying to image the planets.
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>>4071906
gotta be the dome making that effect right? right guys? guys the earth is flat.
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>>4068033
>There's always something I'm missing
example?
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>>4084639
unironically yes
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>>4076681
Sigma 30 1.4
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Astrophotography is a purely technical challenge that can provide enormous satisfaction (and frustration) with constant margin for improvement. Even if you only shoot the most accessible objects. On the other hand it does not allow you tu be as creative as "regular" photography.
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>>4085138
Forgot pic.
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Can someone give me a QR on the bare minimum for tracking?
is there some $50 DIY solution that just works for amateurs as I do NOT want to spend hundreds of Bidenbux on gear.
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>>4067352
astrophotography is cringe because you can't control two most important factors in photography - composition and light.
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>>4085190
Good luck finding a smooth motor for $50
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Glad I had 3 whole clear nights to leave my rig out. Made it so much easier to get a handful of subs of a few targets.

>>4085190
Assuming you're doing camera lens, you can make a barn door tracking mount with some wood and a hinge. The only caveat is you have to track manually. With shorter focal lengths, it's not an issue, I think.
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>>4072829
nice



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