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Why do all of my wildlife photos look like ass?

> Seriously though, what is going on with all this streaky banding in the out of focus areas?

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Its out of focus, poorly lit, you're not using the manual settings very well, the composition is bad, and you chose an uninteresting subject.
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>>4065568
It was pretty late in the day. The bird is in focus, but the exposure was so long that it ended up blurry. longer f, more light, faster shutter, any other tips? what is going on with that streaking tho? that's annoying af.

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>>4065570
maybe im retarded but are you using some polarizing filter angled weird or something like that? Maybe some kind of built-in noise reduction setting? Either way, I personally raise the ISO setting (try not to raise too high because it increases image noise)after adjusting aperture settings to allow for a higher shutter speed.
>t. shaky hands who can't take still pictures even at like 1/60
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>>4065565
>>4065565
What lens are you using? Maybe it's of poor quality?
I have a Canon 70-200 f2.8 II and my bokeh is looking stunning!

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not sure if troll thread.
Your subject is tiny in the frame, you need a longer zoom or you are not zoomed in?
Also you are using a really high fstop and dont have much bg blur.
Start with a cookie cutter, zoomed in, f2.8 or as wide open as your lens will go, fill the frame with your bird. Also think about if the background looks ugly, if it does find an angle so there is something nice behind the bird.
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>>4065565
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlP59RK1gNI
maybe some advice from one of the best (imo) wildlife photographers will help
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>>4065565
You’re literally taking a photo of the birds ass and with a kit lens by the looks.
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>>4065628
Yeah, but it's a nice kit lens.
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>>4065615
So, turn off noise reduction and remove uv filter? I feel like it's software, you can see in the second one how crisp the water reflections are in the lower right, but everything around it looks like shit. Is my camera just picking up all the textures as noise and trying to smooth out the highlights?
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>>4065565
>Why do my photos that require the best equipment in the world and infinite patience to shine look like shit on my crop DSLR and bargain bin shitter of a lens when I go for a 30 minute walk by the local lake?

Lol
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>>4065667
>implying crop isn't superior for wildlife
Once again you're out of your element Moop. A 90D is one of the best wildlife cameras available right now and it's a crop. Try again, "babe".
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>>4065671
>Crop cope

Lol!

Why did almost everyone that won at the last wildlife photographer of the year use full frame then? The only exceptions were photos taken by children and macro iirc.
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>>4065667
> Ignoring the actual question to be a gear snob.

Have you considered being helpful?
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>>4065680
>jew awards
lol, I'd rather take a MFT than a full frame for wildlife
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OP here.
Maybe I should be more specific.

I am aware of the issues with it being a shitty picture. I literally posted a picture of a birds ass.

I would like to know what is going on with the weird texture that is happening in the muck areas, specifically in the dark and out of focus areas. I've never had the problem before, and haven't been able to reproduce it. What is causing it? Is there anything I can do to deal with it? If it's a limitation of my gear, then fine, but just saying,
> hurr durr, muh z9II,
Isn't helping.

Does anyone know what is happening here on a technical level?

And for the retard ass blasting about going for a walk, the reason I'm asking here is because I had to drive an hour and a half and spent 3 hours in the woods to go to a nature preserve, and I don't want to do that again just to play with my settings and see if I can identify the cause that way. Like I said, haven't seen it before, and haven't been able to reproduce it since.
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>>4065621
It's all in the EXIF.

I haven't taken one that nice, and my lens doesn't have a f that low, but as stated, it's never been that fucked up before and I don't know why.

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>>4065570
The subject isn't very noticeable in the composition. I would have used a longer tele lens and done a composition like this to remove distracting elements.

Also, your subject isn't very interesting looking, so you at least need to catch it doing something I interesting. Use burst mode and try to catch the one frame when it spreads its wings or at least looks at you.
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>>4065718
This is not a very interesting picture or subject matter either, literally a chicken in a parking lot. At least you can see his face though

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>Fixed

My daughter used my camera and took off the filter because it had a smudge. Proceeded to touch the lens, and did a shitty job cleaning it. I didn't notice until I had it outside today and too a look just to see.

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>>4065565
I've never even seen a birds ass like this before
they dont bend over often like that
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>>4065565
it really is a marvelous bird ass
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>>4065722
I think it's interesting
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>>4065565
The pose in this one is bad. It's literally an ass shot, but more specifically your subject's head is barely visible and covered by its own leg. Try waiting a second or too and taking your shot when it's looking up again - it'd be a lot more interesting if the head (and the rest of its body) were fully visible. Lighting isn't great either, there's no emphasis on your subject.

>>4065570
Lighting is better here (I like that at least the head is lit against a dark background), but your subject is WAY too small in this shot. Also maybe a tad overexposed - try underexposing by up to 2/3 stops when there's a lot of lit-up greens in your shot.
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>>4065565
bad glass, bad exposure, shaky hands, too worried about the digital artifacts not worried enough about light
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>>4065722
nice cock ;-)
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>>4065671
Isn't wildlife and sports precisely when you benefit the most from full frame?

These animals are fast as fuck, which means high shutter speeds and therefore high ISOs, where full frame performs much better.
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>>4065565
Bad background, bad angles: poor choice of shooting location
Bad posture: poor judgement of when to shoot

Find better spots, always consider the background. Try to get closer to your subject.
Think of your wildlife shots as portraits or street shooting, go for a good head position, towards you, no bird pooper. Also try to show something interesting as well with your subject, interaction with the surroundings, eating, hunting, fucking, or just a generic profile posture.

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>>4065972

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>>4065975

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>>4065972
>Bad background
Posts bad background. I really don't get you people.
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>>4065977
And my favorite, my first wildlife shot

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>>4065978
That is a swallow resting on a reed in a field of reed. What did you expect to have in the background, Justin Bieber and One Direction?
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>>4065983
Your system settings render poorly the reed behind the bird. Either increase or decrease aperture, or you could also do something compositionally to negate that effect.
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>>4065963
Yep, not to mention benefitting greatly from high resolution shots to make the most of the texture from hair, fur and feathers.

Unless you're doing macro or are sponsored, every pro wildlife photographer uses full frame.
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>>4065985
That's the Sigma Bigma for you
I have some very nice shots with it considering the subject where the background is vomit inducing.
So adding poor choice of lens to the list. When doing wildlife avoid Sigma zooms (50-500, 150-500, 150-600, 60-600) and get a good prime and TC instead, like a 300/4 and 1.4X or 2X TC or 70-200/2.8 and 2X TC
Or just get a good lens like the Nikon 200-500, 80-400II or Canon 100-400
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>>4065963
wouldn't crop sensors be better since they're, yknow, cropped?
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>>4065999
Why would you think that forcing a 50% digital zoom on your images is a good idea?
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>>4065681
>implying wildlife isn't the most pay2win genre of photography
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>>4066016
Not really, since buying the gear doesn't mean you don't have to, you know, get outside to take photos
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>>4065991
>When doing wildlife avoid Sigma zooms
The 100-600 works perfectly fine with a non-shit camera. Do not, however, put a TC on it, even with a good cam. IQ goes to shit (inb4 pun).
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>>4066021
I am sure Sigma improved the resolution, but these lenses take an enormous amount of zoom range and are slow aperture. Basically a consumer zoom lens like a 50-300 but with longer focal length. On my 50-500 the sweet spot was f/8 and 300mm, 400mm was already blurry in focus and 500mm was useless.
The bigger problem is the bokeh rendition, even the best ones do doubling and shitting up in the background. Unless all your subjects are closer than 20m you will have to deal with it in some way.
Avoid these dust pump zooms if you can. Telephoto primes are where it's at.
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>>4066001
why do astrofrags use webcams?
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>>4065980
That's a nice one. Love it.
Anyway, it was too late in the day to get enough light for a sharper image. Place was dead until the evening rolled around, and by then it was much darker than the pictures are letting on. The second image was one of the first I took, and because the subject was so small, I couldn't tell if it was exposed properly or not. I guess it will just come with luck and experience, at least in that regard. No one has said anything about what I actually wanted to know, though. Guess i should have expected that from chuds.
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>>4065680
>my camera is good because some pros won awards!
lol
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>>4065565
> I don't understand why my photos are shit
> Must be because of banding, time to change brand of camera
> Post picture of bird displaying its anus
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>>4066037
Astrofags shoot long exposures of shit that doesn't move, which you realistically can do with a small sensor webcam. Wildlife photographers shoot shit that moves a lot and fast. That's why wildlife photographers need the best possible ISO performance. If medium format cameras weren't so slow I'm sure they would use those instead.

That said, astrofags do not typically use webcams, they use dedicated astronomy cameras with their own set of tradeoffs tailored to their specific use case.

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>>4066037
Webcams are used only in planetary shots, special cameras are used for deep sky, the better ones are actually FF sensors with heavy cooling attached and no cut filters.
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>>4065565
If that was as wide of an aperture as your lens could do, I would have stopped down even more to keep everything sharp.

That slight blur, especially on crop systems for whatever reason, often looks like absolute ass.

Also,
> bird ass
> too small
Wildlife photography isn't a out seeing an animal way in the distance and using your 300mm tele to make make take up 1/32nd of your screen area.

You need to learn how to quietly approach wildlife, gdt as close as you can, recognize their body language, and shoot shitloads of bursts to get the one shot where they're doing something interesting.
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>>4066054
Over half the catalog is gearthreads, it shouldn't surprise you that this board is full of people who can't compose for shit and then blame their gear.
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>>4066057
thank you. i was looking at astro dedicated cams and they reminded me of webcams. mea culpa for my ignorance
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>>4066126
>implying that bird anuses (anusi?) aren't worthy of being photographed
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>>4065565
get closer faggot
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>>4065653
>having noise reduction on
>ever
Jesus fucking Christ just do it in post instead of letting shitty camera software mess with the quality of your pics.
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>>4066228
came here to post this so I'll sage
but yeah you're too far away
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>>4066375
Thank you for this wonderful tip.
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>>4066037
Because they're too poor for a proper camera or a lens with the reach they want



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