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Looking at buying this camera, but it's fully manual.
I'm not used to shooting in full manual without being able to see exactly how the exposure will turn out on my camera screen.
How can I quickly the rules of shooting manual on film in order to avoid ruining entire rolls of expensive film?
Or does Fuji make any medium format cameras that have auto exposure with prices that haven't skyrocketed due to zoomer popularity?

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>>4028258
I think I'll stick to an app on my phone for light metering then...
Can someone recommend me which one I should get? Looking at eBay at the moment and the price varies a little.
And is there a big difference between the GW690 and the GW690 II/ III?
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/354043096796?hash=item526e9ceedc:g:i1UAAOSw~9tick2E
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/144529179194?hash=item21a69c423a:g:vDsAAOSwYbJh16b5
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/384872754708?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-154756-20017-0&ssspo=Joaodw4SRM2&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
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>>4028270
Why are you buying a $1000 medium format rangefinder if you don't know what you're doing?
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>>4028257
>>4028270
If you're buying an expensive manual camera that shoots expensive film, you should have a good lightmeter. You can find a decent one for 50 bucks on ebay. Serious medium format shooters might spend 200 dollars or more on a light meter.

It might also be helpful to learn the sunny 16 rule:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunny_16_rule
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>>4028444
I tried to warn him but it's only going to go downhill from here. I can't muster the fucks anymore, have at the stupid shit. I shiggy diggy do for once.
Costs:
>film
8 shots per
>dev
>scanning
>printing
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>>4028445
I shoot mine with a chinese voigtländer meter copy, doomo meter d. It gets the job done quite well.
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>>4028257
sunny 16 nigga
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This is now a medium format rangefinder thread.

Picrel gw690iii

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>>4028257
Just meter using your digital camera. Alternatively, you might want to get something with greater film economy as you will burn through frames with the 690.
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>>4028257
You're going to waste film and you're going to take shit photos. There's no get rich quick scheme that will make you suddenly good enough that you literally never have a bad roll of film, starting out. My general sentiment is the same as >>4028444 , this seems like a stupid purchase if you've never even shot manual before. Why don't you buy a shitbox 35mm camera and practice shooting manual before you dump all this money into something you don't know how to use
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>>4028444
How will I ever know what I'm doing if I never try it out? I want to branch out and learn to use new types of cameras.
>>4028445
Thanks anon. Gonna look into some dedicated light meters. I'm seeing some that can be attached to the hotshoes like >>4028458 and they seem to work fairly well.
>>4028453
I have no issue with only 8 shots to a roll. I have my own scanner so I only have to pay for development.
>>4028473
I like to think I know the Sunny16 rule fairly well but I'd rather trust a computer to figure out the exposure over my brain.
>>4028824
I know how to shoot fully manual, I'm just not used to it when even my film camera has an aperture/shutter priority mode that makes life easier for myself. I'm buying this camera to get out of my comfort zone and learn to use a fully manual camera that just so happens to be a range-finder and medium format.
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>>4028691
Wow is this the power of 6x9?
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>>4028875
I used a VCII meter for a while, and if buying a new meter today (in your case), I would just get TTartisan meter. These are both simple, compact, and you just leave it on the camera. There are definitely better meters out there, but I don't think they'd be worth it for you unless working with lighting / in studio.
Prior to the VCII, I just used a phone app to meter, and it worked fairly well. That was back in like 2011-12 so I'd imagine the modern metering apps are that much better. You could just start there too.
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>>4028882
Thanks anon. The TTartisan one looks to be the cheapest out of all the ones I've found so far. Some seem really expensive but if all do fairly well overall then I'll just go for the cheaper ones.
https://hedeco.myshopify.com/products/lime-one
https://www.doomomade.com/
https://www.reveni-labs.com/shop/p/lightmeter
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>>4028876
That is the power of shitty flatbed scan.
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Maybe use a fully manual 35mm SLR first and learn how to use it before buying that expensive fuji anon. I recommend an M42 mount like a pentax spotmatic, a zenit e, a praktica, or something of the sort. It doesn't matter. Then shoot kodak gold and hp5 until your shots are well exposed and in focus.
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>>4028941
Potato scans from flatbeds is what turned me off from film
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>>4028257
Have you held one of these in real life? They are HUGE. Just a warning in case portability is important to you.
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>>4028257
Sunny 16 rule is all you need
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>>4029168
Its about the same as lugging a pro dslr sized brick with you. Not that bad after RB/RZ experience.

Banana for scale

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>>4029251
What’s with the red tint?
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>>4028875
You strive for mediocrity
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>>4029268
Its a red filter for bw film

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Posting some more gw690iii shit

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In all seriousness this shit from crappy flatbed looks like 35mm.

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Hp5+ @1600 with rodinal 1+25, here the big size obv helps with the grain alot. I guess this was with red filter.

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Some xpro velvia50 with colours "corrected" in ps

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This will end this snapshit journey for a while.

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>>4029821
I think it’s a combination of that and the aspect ratio

>>4029857
This looks really bad ngl
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>>4029865
>This will end this snapshit journey for a while.
guess you ran out of film
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>>4029903
Not really. I have still like 40-50 rolls of bw and about 30 color neg film in the freezer.
Have a church.

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Hello

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>>4029886
I would love to have the 6 by 7 version.

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Literally just use any light meter.

The first camera I ever owned was a Zenit-E. A soviet SLR from 1965. It has a built-in light meter, but not the way you'd expect from other, non-autistic SLRs. It had a selenium cell above the lens, so absolutely no point-metering. The more light that hit the cell, the more voltage the cell produced. This voltage moved a single needle on the top side of the camera, which you had to align this (pic relates) exposure dial with, then align the inner ring with your ISO, then read off of it. The inner dial indicates your aperture selection, and the outer your shutter speeds. If one is vertically aligned with another, those settings will result in a perfectly exposed photo.

That's it. This is as simple as it gets. I never shot a manual before this, I had no idea what I was doing. Despite this, ny entire first roll came out perfectly exposed (and I'm an idiot).

Just use any light meter.
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>>4028257
Just buy a Mamiya 6/7 if you want a built in meter so bad.
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>>4030289
What if you dont want to sell your soul for it?
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>>4030297
Then you can buy the inferior substitute product, pretend that your soul is worth 5k, and use zoomers as a coping mechanism for why you can’t help yourself.
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>>4029128
Why tho? You can always go back and rescan it with better equipment. No one needs high res scans for posting online.





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