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>>4028258
I think I'll stick to an app on my phone for light metering then...
Can someone recommend me which one I should get? Looking at eBay at the moment and the price varies a little.
And is there a big difference between the GW690 and the GW690 II/ III?
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/354043096796?hash=item526e9ceedc:g:i1UAAOSw~9tick2E
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/144529179194?hash=item21a69c423a:g:vDsAAOSwYbJh16b5
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/384872754708?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-154756-20017-0&ssspo=Joaodw4SRM2&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

>>4028270
Why are you buying a $1000 medium format rangefinder if you don't know what you're doing?

>>4028257
>>4028270
If you're buying an expensive manual camera that shoots expensive film, you should have a good lightmeter. You can find a decent one for 50 bucks on ebay. Serious medium format shooters might spend 200 dollars or more on a light meter.

It might also be helpful to learn the sunny 16 rule:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunny_16_rule

>>4028444
I tried to warn him but it's only going to go downhill from here. I can't muster the fucks anymore, have at the stupid shit. I shiggy diggy do for once.
Costs:
>film
8 shots per
>dev
>scanning
>printing

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>>4028445
I shoot mine with a chinese voigtländer meter copy, doomo meter d. It gets the job done quite well.

>>4028257
sunny 16 nigga

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This is now a medium format rangefinder thread.

Picrel gw690iii

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>>4028257
Just meter using your digital camera. Alternatively, you might want to get something with greater film economy as you will burn through frames with the 690.

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>>4028257
You're going to waste film and you're going to take shit photos. There's no get rich quick scheme that will make you suddenly good enough that you literally never have a bad roll of film, starting out. My general sentiment is the same as >>4028444 , this seems like a stupid purchase if you've never even shot manual before. Why don't you buy a shitbox 35mm camera and practice shooting manual before you dump all this money into something you don't know how to use

>>4028444
How will I ever know what I'm doing if I never try it out? I want to branch out and learn to use new types of cameras.
>>4028445
Thanks anon. Gonna look into some dedicated light meters. I'm seeing some that can be attached to the hotshoes like >>4028458 and they seem to work fairly well.
>>4028453
I have no issue with only 8 shots to a roll. I have my own scanner so I only have to pay for development.
>>4028473
I like to think I know the Sunny16 rule fairly well but I'd rather trust a computer to figure out the exposure over my brain.
>>4028824
I know how to shoot fully manual, I'm just not used to it when even my film camera has an aperture/shutter priority mode that makes life easier for myself. I'm buying this camera to get out of my comfort zone and learn to use a fully manual camera that just so happens to be a range-finder and medium format.

>>4028691
Wow is this the power of 6x9?

>>4028875
I used a VCII meter for a while, and if buying a new meter today (in your case), I would just get TTartisan meter. These are both simple, compact, and you just leave it on the camera. There are definitely better meters out there, but I don't think they'd be worth it for you unless working with lighting / in studio.
Prior to the VCII, I just used a phone app to meter, and it worked fairly well. That was back in like 2011-12 so I'd imagine the modern metering apps are that much better. You could just start there too.

>>4028882
Thanks anon. The TTartisan one looks to be the cheapest out of all the ones I've found so far. Some seem really expensive but if all do fairly well overall then I'll just go for the cheaper ones.
https://hedeco.myshopify.com/products/lime-one
https://www.doomomade.com/
https://www.reveni-labs.com/shop/p/lightmeter

>>4028876
That is the power of shitty flatbed scan.

Maybe use a fully manual 35mm SLR first and learn how to use it before buying that expensive fuji anon. I recommend an M42 mount like a pentax spotmatic, a zenit e, a praktica, or something of the sort. It doesn't matter. Then shoot kodak gold and hp5 until your shots are well exposed and in focus.

>>4028941
Potato scans from flatbeds is what turned me off from film

>>4028257
Have you held one of these in real life? They are HUGE. Just a warning in case portability is important to you.

>>4028257
Sunny 16 rule is all you need

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>>4029168
Its about the same as lugging a pro dslr sized brick with you. Not that bad after RB/RZ experience.

Banana for scale

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>>4029251
What’s with the red tint?

>>4028875
You strive for mediocrity

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>>4029268
Its a red filter for bw film

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Posting some more gw690iii shit

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In all seriousness this shit from crappy flatbed looks like 35mm.

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Hp5+ @1600 with rodinal 1+25, here the big size obv helps with the grain alot. I guess this was with red filter.

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Some xpro velvia50 with colours "corrected" in ps

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This will end this snapshit journey for a while.

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>>4029821
I think it’s a combination of that and the aspect ratio

>>4029857
This looks really bad ngl

>>4029865
>This will end this snapshit journey for a while.
guess you ran out of film

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>>4029903
Not really. I have still like 40-50 rolls of bw and about 30 color neg film in the freezer.
Have a church.

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Hello

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>>4029886
I would love to have the 6 by 7 version.

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Literally just use any light meter.

The first camera I ever owned was a Zenit-E. A soviet SLR from 1965. It has a built-in light meter, but not the way you'd expect from other, non-autistic SLRs. It had a selenium cell above the lens, so absolutely no point-metering. The more light that hit the cell, the more voltage the cell produced. This voltage moved a single needle on the top side of the camera, which you had to align this (pic relates) exposure dial with, then align the inner ring with your ISO, then read off of it. The inner dial indicates your aperture selection, and the outer your shutter speeds. If one is vertically aligned with another, those settings will result in a perfectly exposed photo.

That's it. This is as simple as it gets. I never shot a manual before this, I had no idea what I was doing. Despite this, ny entire first roll came out perfectly exposed (and I'm an idiot).

Just use any light meter.

>>4028257
Just buy a Mamiya 6/7 if you want a built in meter so bad.

>>4030289
What if you dont want to sell your soul for it?

>>4030297
Then you can buy the inferior substitute product, pretend that your soul is worth 5k, and use zoomers as a coping mechanism for why you can’t help yourself.

>>4029128
Why tho? You can always go back and rescan it with better equipment. No one needs high res scans for posting online.

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>>4030279
Bought this light meter so I can just keep it on top my camera and it can read the right exposure for me constantly. I'm gonna be very slow with this camera so I'll probably never have to quickly know the exposure of a scene to get a quick shot but it gives me the convenience of not having to whip out my phone or a handheld lightmeter every time.
>>4030289
Yeah look I'm not spending $4,000-7,000 on a film camera. Plus I already bought the GW690II.

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Light meters are retarded, you've got an electronic viewfinder that can give you perfect settings and an exposure preview in your pocket already.

>>4030574
I've never seen a light meter like this before, looks really interesting. Right now I have two cameras, both of them have a built-in light meter so I don'r really need it though

>>4028257
Anon you're a literal shitter, go practice on a holga first

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The GW690 arrived today and I shot my first roll of medium-format film with Portra 800.
It absolutely mogs my A-1 but it's still comfortable to hold and carry around.
It was far easier to use than I had anticipated and hopefully my first roll will come back properly exposed assuming my phone gave me the correct information.
Only worry is that it was getting dark early and I found myself shooting at f/3.5 and f/4 even outdoors so I'm hoping I didn't butcher the focusing which is probably the hardest part of using this camera.
My next roll will be Kodak Gold 200, and the day I'm going out to shoot is supposed to be really sunny so hopefully I can stay above f/8

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>>4031278
Im waiting for the results

>>4034192
Will post as soon as I get them back from the lab, shot 4 rolls so far and I’m excited to see how they’ve come out but it’s been almost a week since I submitted the first roll so it’s taking longer than usual.

>>4034362
Sometimes I forget that not everyone develops at home.

>>4030574
Hey anon it's me again my friend needs a light meter like this, do you still have a link?

>>4028875
>How will I ever know what I'm doing if I never try it out? I want to branch out and learn to use new types of cameras.
How are you going to grasp the universal basics of photography if you don't try to get them right on one camera first?

>>4034569
Here you go: https://www.doomomade.com/
Note: I bought it on the 13th of May and they only just shipped it out yesterday despite saying the product should arrive within 15 days of the order being placed.
>>4034570
What

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First roll came back, finally. And yeah look I absolutely fucked it. Not even worth trying to scan these myself at home let alone post them anywhere.
I knew as I was taking the photos at 1/30 shutter speed that it'd be fucked yet for the past 7 days I've had this false sense of hope that it wouldn't be that bad, but it was.
But I've shot 4 more rolls and waiting on those so hopefully they come out better as I made sure to keep above 1/125 on almost every shot.
At least the exposure is alright.

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Not on this one though. Also shot at f/3.5 and 1/30, but exposure is way off.
I think I'll have to invest in a decent tripod, and I can tell myself that I'll finally be able to do night film photography to convince myself it's worth the money.

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Other rolls just came back and are looking much better.

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>>4034572
>What
If you keep trying different cameras, specially ones where you have few opportunities to fuck up and correct like 6x9 is then you won't have a lot of experimentation ability.

>>4034920
Imagine reading this and thinking it sounds like english

>>4034899
I have the heavier GL690 and I've gotten away with 1/30, it's a leaf shutter and with steady enough hands they'll come out fine.

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>>4034936
I think the sharpest shot I might have at the lowest shutter speed so far is 1/60. I probably just have shaky hands.

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