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Got this for £100 and it’s pretty nice. I’m struggling to get as nice colours out of it compared with my X-T2 though….

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I only have one lens, looking into getting another. Anyone have a setup with a 50mm and a 100-450mm? What do you do with each?
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>>4024773
Further to this. It's an awkward sized camera in that it's not that pocketable and too small for a neck strap so you either put it in a coat pocket and it's weighed down on one side or you awkwardly have it hanging from a strap.
It ends up being just as annoying to carry as my Canon 6D...
Might sell it for profit.
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>>4024773
Poorfag here, r8 pls:

>EOS 2000D
>Tamron 17-50 mm f/2.8 (constant aperture)
>EF 50 mm F/1.4 USM
>EF 70-300 mm F/4-5.6 IS USM
>ND-8
>ND-1000
>polarising filter
>filter adapter
>NW-565EX flash
>Manfrotto Compact tripod
>spare battery
>spare SD card
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>>4024847
All my best photos were the one I had with me, you're not going to post a photoset but if you used a third of it for what you do, good on you.
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>>4024863
I use all of it, although to be fair I only use what makes sense in a given situation.
During my last vacation the only part I didn't use from that list was the ND-1000.
Not feeling comfortable posting much of that as many are portraits of friends and myself.
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>>4024875
I understand but do it once the statute of limitations passes on any goings on or I get clearance.
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>still paralysed by choice on what camera to get because everything is so expensive I don't want to fuck up
Right now my only camera is a TG 6 which isn't exactly a daily shooter.
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The smallest one is unironically the sharpest one.
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Got this XT2 coming in the mail in a day or two with the 35 f2. $950aud (675usd)
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>>4025029
nice. X-T2 is a great camera. You won't outgrow it.

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>>4025029
>>4025030
Be careful with straps as the strap lugs dont attach to the frame, but the outer shell of the camera.

I learned that the hard way.
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Picked this one up for 5€. Got the price down because of some cosmetic damage. Very happy with it so far

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Casual here.
I mostly use my m100 for travel photography, to have something decent looking instead of samey smartphone photos after going to places.
Aside from the 15-45 kit lens, I only have the 22mm f/2 and a manual 35mm f/1.4 which I only occasionally use if I can be bothered.

I plan on getting an ultrawide and a telephoto zoom lens, what would you all suggest?
Ultrawide
>new ef-m 11-22mm for 325e
>used ef-s 10-18mm for 150e, I have a basic adapter
Zoom
>new ef-m 55-200mm for 250e
>used ef-s 55-250mm IS STM for 170e
If I'm better off with the ef-s ones I could even get the viltrox speed booster adapter for another 100.
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>>4025034
I wonder what will be the future of the EF-M mount? floating rumors of RF-S mount will be released with the R7 apsc.
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>>4025034
>ultrawide
EF-M lenses should have better image quality when wide/superwide due to the shorter flange distance.
>telephoto
For telephoto it doesn't make much of a difference, so you could go with a cheap EF 70-300 mm F/4.0-5.6 IS USM.
>speedbooster
Only works with FF lenses, so you could use it with EF lenses, but not EF-S lenses.
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What do people think
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>>4025212
I think this board is retarded and I dont know why I come here anymore
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What do people think of the FujiFilm xt4 as a beginner camera
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>>4025216
It's an advanced camera which is good enough for pros. Gget something cheaper, you fool. The X-t2 is perfectly good and will save you a grand.
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>>4025236
I am so glad I took you guys advice and picked up a used XT2. Im not a beginner beginner but its an amazing camera for the money. My starter dslr died and you guys save me so much money. Thanks bros.
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>>4025216
>paying full frame price for APS-C
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Picked this leica m-e for 1100$ and voigtlander nokton classic for 200$, really love them. My best buy ever.
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I have a Minolta AF-C that I really like, but I don't like the horizontal case that much. Unfortunately the strap holder looks really brittle so I don't want to carry it around on a neck strap from there, what would you guys recommend as a solution?
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>>4024847
I hope you bought all the lenses used at least. Cause there are not many 2000D's in the used market and that's a shitty camera
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>>4025034
What's wrong with that 15mm? Should be wide enough?
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>>4025274
>I hope you bought all the lenses used at least.
Yea, 2 out of 3 as broken and fixed them up myself.
>Cause there are not many 2000D's in the used market and that's a shitty camera
Eh, it does the job and I've bought it years ago.
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>>4025243
nice, shame it's a leica though
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What would be a good full frame upgrade from m6 mkii?
I like it but already notice i need better performance in low light and more lensoptions. Id stick to canon but maybe brand doesnt matter that much.
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>>4025511
Actually just read on canonrumors the m6 mkii is discontinued. What the fuck. Is it ogre for ef-m?
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>>4025512
lol it never even started, it was a dead end system designed solely to funnel you up to their fullframe offerings
truth of the matter is, if you want apsc, its fujifilm or bust
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>>4025514
>truth of the matter is, if you want apsc, its fujifilm or bust
Half truth and half lie.

The other half is the fact that only Sony right now have 3 standard zoom lenses with F2,8 aperture.
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I want to get into photography as a hobby, specifically nature and landscape photography. I'm a complete beginner but I'm serious about it, so I'm ready to commit and spend up to around £1.5k on starting gear.
What camera and lens would you recommend for me? Do I need full frame? There's one retarded catch to this - I really like the retro aesthetic of cameras like >>4025238, so if the recommended camera has that look it'd be a nice bonus
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>>4025569
>Do I need full frame?
No but Im not going to lie to you like the micro penis sensor cucks and tell you that it wont help. You will not find any 1500 quid full frame that satisfies your aesthetic requirement. I have 2 recommendations for you.

>Canon EOS RP & Canon 16mm f2.8
This thing is the best value overall. About 1000 quid for the body and lens. Dont make the mistake of thinking all full frames are somehow magically amazing in low light. This things good, but its cheap for a reason. It's better than aspc, but its a bottom of the barrel full frame sensor. Still good, but you get what you pay for.
>Lumix S5 & Panasonic 24mm f1.8
This option is about £1750 all up for the body and the 24mm. I know it's a bit of a stretch of your budget but this thing can see in the dark. Incredible ISO performance. The only thing that trumps it is the a7sIII which is £3000 just for the body. If you're more into night time shots and astro photography, this thing is undeniably the best bang for the buck right now. Its on my own personal list, just waiting for a sale.

Now, if you really want to gimp performance for aesthetics and get something you like to look at, there's 2 options I can think of.

>Nikon Zfc & 28mm f2.8
This thing is more of a money grab by nikon than anything. It's essentially a z50 wrapped up in a retro body. Perfectly acceptable performance for a decent price. You should be able to find both the body and the pancake lens under 900 quid.
>Fuji XT3 & 16mm f2.8
Amazing colors, superior noise control, great film simulations. The pinnacle of apsc. About 800 quid for the body and 350-400 pounds for the lens. 1200 all up for an amazing setup. You could probably wait for a sale around mid-year during eofy and just about squeeze an XT4 into your £1500 budget.

In my personal opinion, I think you need to decide between a Fuji and the S5.

NOTE: I am australian using $aud and converting to £brtibong. Prices may be slightly different, but ballpark
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>Minolta 300mm f/2.8
>with 1.4x converter
>700€
Is this a good deal? They seems pretty rare, it would go on my A-mount sony
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>>4025569
Previous poster seems fine but don’t meme yourself into buying a single prime for nature/landscape. Buy either a standard zoom or wide angle zoom depending on your preference.
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>>4025615
Im the previous poster. Sorry >>4025569 , I fell into my own shooting habits of just using primes and forgot zooms altogether. Here's some recs including decent zooms. All previous info about the bodies still stand.

Full frame:
>Canon EOS RP & Canon 24-105mm F4-7.1 STM Zoom
You can actually get this in a kit combo for about 1200 quid. Its a decently sharp zoom but just remember, its not particularly fast, but you can still afford to add the 16mm within your budget.
>Lumix S5 & Panasonic 20-60mm f3.5-5.6
Once again you can find this in a combo with the body anywhere from £1500-£1700 but I would still strongly consider the 24mm prime I originally recommended if you're aiming to do night/astro because its significantly faster. You lose versatility for low light performance.

APSC:
>Nikon Zfc & Nikon 24-50mm F4-6.3 Zoom
I honestly cant recommend this. This kit zoom is just too slow for an apsc, but its the only zoom that will fit into your budget. It's here if you want to consider it. I'd strongly recommend the prime if you want to go with the zfc. You should be able to find the body and this lens for about 1100 pounds total. I highly recommend the Fuji below if you want a zoom.
>Fuji XT3 & Fuji 18-55mm f2.8-4
This is one of the best kit lens' ever made and for the price it cant be beat. Body about 800 quid and the lens, 250-300. Highly recommended. Decently fast. Pretty sharp for what it is. Built in stabilization. Amazing lens. You might be able to fit an XT4 into your budget if you went this route based on average prices (about £1000 body only).

If you want a zoom, this knocks the Nikon out. Not worth it in my opinion. Lumix falls behind in performance if choosing that zoom and sort of nullifies it's strength, as does the canon. Fuji however holds its own. I probably should have recommended that lens to begin with. My bad, hope the info helps.
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>>4025639
>This is one of the best kit lens' ever made and for the price it cant be beat.
>$699
Spoken from the fanboy shill perspective.

That's actually way overpriced compared to he Sigma constant aperture.
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>>4024847
who gives a shit nigga are we supposed to judge your photography based on your gear?
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>>4025642
The 18-55 is considered by many to be the best kit lens ever made. I have no experience with it because I'm a panny boy myself. I dont know where you shop but the price here is $499aud all day long, which is about 300 quid for the poster above, give or take a tenner.

Yes, the sigma is better on paper because it has a constant aperture all the way through but remember, it has no lens stability while the native lens does. This effectively nullifies the higher aperture at longer focal lengths because it allows for longer handheld exposure times, and if he paired it with an XT4 with ibis, even more so. The OIS in the lens will also allow him to get much steadier shots at the long end which could serve him better in the field.

I could only recommend that lens if paired with the XT4 with ibis and even then, doubling down on the stabilization with the native lens' OIS still seems like a better option.
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>>4025646
>I dont know where you shop
It's not on sale in B&H or Adorama.
>but the price here is $499aud
Liar.

>Yes, the sigma is better on paper
In real life as well.
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>>4025649
I am not lying. Other ausfags will confirm. Where do you live
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>>4025650
>I am not lying.
Pretty sure you are. I just did a search on Australian amazon and 0 results showed up.
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>>4025514
Love the 32mm though.
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>>4025652
I have edited out my name and address. I mean, its right there. I dont know how to prove it to you. Sure theres some for sale for like a grand but its like everything else. You can go on amazon right now and find some idiot selling m50s for like $2 grand. The rrp price here for an 18-55 is $499.

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>>4025656
>I mean, its right there
??
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>>4025658
I think I know what youre looking at. Youre only being shown the amazon stocked and fulfilled item, which is currently out of stock and being taken advantage of by 3rd party sale and fulfillers.

Pic related. Now lets stop wasting replies on this.

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>>4025662
It doesn't list the 3rd parties either. And your claim definitely does not match the other camera store I looked up at>>4025649

Either way your argument depends way too much on sales and shops that are out of stock.
Just a simple search on B&H shows you are completely wrong.
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>>4025664
$499 isnt a sale price and I can prove it. Go look up teds cameras australia and search for the lens there. You will find that its currently on sale for $425 discounted from the retail $499. If 499 was a sale price, why would it be discounted from that again? 499 is the rrp here, other ausfags will confirm. But that's beside the point. The question is, is it more expensive for a britfag? Only the poster asking for advice will know so he will have to make a decision based on that.
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>>4025667
>You will find that its currently on sale for $425
Confirmed.
But it's still suspicious to me that you can pint point all those sales over there, meanwhile in USA there is no such sales.
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I've ended up using the ef-s 55-250 adapted on my M50 as my favorite lens. My only problem is I'd like a slightly faster lens without it being way too heavy.

What would be a step up from it?
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Wanna buy a beginner camera for wildlife photography. What's a good beginner camera with good zoom abilities/lenses. I know nothing about cameras.
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>>4025584
Thanks man this is super helpful. Leaning towards the XT4 at the moment
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>>4025639
And thanks for this as well
I'll probably get the Fuji 18-55 lens to go with the xt4
Now I just have to make sure I make good use of all this
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>>4024773
Newfag question: I have been sketching women for a few years and recently wanted to start doing photography. I have been researching for a few days but there's a lot to learn. Is there like a /p/ infographic on cameras or nah? Any suggestions for nude shoots?
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>>4025863
>researching for a few days but there's a lot to learn
just talk to women lil nigga
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>>4025864
Pretty boy in bear mode, I don't have to try. I just think the female form is the most beautiful thing in existence and I think it's time for a new medium.
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>>4025870
Cool, thanks, any model you suggest?
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>>4025873
I'm googling "12 Guage fuji camera" but I'm not seeing anything.
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>>4025876
Nah mate, I'm looking for cameras. So what fuji do you suggest?
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>>4025863
There are 3 technical cornerstones to photography. Aperture, shutter speed and ISO. They all control how much light hits your sensor and it's a balancing act between the 3, depending on the situation to get optimal results. Look up on youtube how each one works. Go to a thrift store or get on ebay and buy a cheap compact that you can adjust the 3 cornerstones on. Something made in the last 10 years. Spend no more than $50. Throw in an old sd card you have lying around and start shooting. This should take no longer than a month to fully comprehend.

Once youve got the technical aspect down, there are 3 more things you need to learn. Composition, editing and honing the eye. Composition concerns all things framing, subject matter and theme in your photos. Editing is obviously, the ability to manipulate your images in post processing to bring the best out in them. Honing the eye is just some bullshit I made up to describe the intuitive ability to be able to see photos before you take them, which will give you an idea in your mind what to shoot and how you want to set up the shot.

Literally just start watching youtube videos. Whether its gear reviews or shooting tips or straight up tutorials on how cameras work. Learn all the technical shit. Know what lens stability and ibis is, learn the difference between micro penis and full frame, understand the difference between primes and zooms, lens equivalence across different sensor sizes, constant and variable apertures and do research of what different brands and models have to offer and which you might like. It sounds complicated but its not. You just pick it all up in the process. Thats how most of us learned shit. Then, once youve done that, check out used options on ebay and come back and get feedback on it.
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>>4025989
Thank you, anon,that helps a lot.
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I have an m43 camera, olympus em10 mark iii and I feel more and more disappointed with its' performance. I love how it handles and how small it is, but the pictures are always lackluster in detail.

Thinking of going entry level full frame - Nikon z5 maybe?
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>>4026128
Goddamnit, the micro cucks got another one. Fuck these micro penis cameras and everyone who uses them. I got an EM5iii recently and it was the most plastic piece of junk toy I ever used. Worse than any compact I have ever held. Sent that shit back. Junk company.

Z5 is solid. Definitely pick up the F to Z adapter and take advantage of that back catalogue. If youre interested in doing any kind of video, save up a little more money for Z6, S5 or A7iii.
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I have been researching for months. I have a $3k budget but I am so stressed out about making the wrong decision. I have sent half a dozen cameras back out of anxiety. Amazon is about to ban my account for sure.

I have bought this HX50V for $60 off ebay instead. I can already feel my insides

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Recommended compact for good photos but great video and also good in low light especially?
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>>4026257
You would need a tripod to deal with low light.
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>>4026132

Man I cannot choose between Canon Eos RP and Nikon Z5.

Nikon seems like the better choice and the higher price is no big deal, but I also want to get a 50mm lense and here's where the price goes crazy for nikon.

Z5 with a z 50mm 2.8 totals to 2k.
RP with an rf 50mm 1.8 totals to 1.3k.

700 extra does not seem to be worth it?
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>>4026433
The Nikon 50mm is top quality with fill CA control.
The RF 50mm is complete garbage from 49 years ago. Might as well go with EF-mount if you like old lenses.
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>>4026433
No, 700 extra is not worth it when you could buy a couple more varied lenses instead and expand your arsenal. At the end of the day, cheaper lenses will get 90% of the way there compared to pro lenses. Also, I know you want a 50, but the 40mm f2 z-mount is a bargain. I'd do either that or get the ftz adapter and grab the f mount 50mm f1.8. The autofocus on the native z-mount will probably perform better though, I'd look into it. Pic related in ausfag prices. The EOS RP and the 50 can be had with enough room for the 16mm wide as well for the same price as the nikon and either of those options, but, the nikon is superior. I'd give it a week to consider if youre not in a hurry. Start binging reviews and take all the pros and cons on board. Nothing worse than rushing a decision on something youre going to be stuck with for the foreseeable future.
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>>4026433
I think you should look into the 40mm z-mount. Its better than I expected. Pic related. Certainly btfo the 50RF. People are only really complaining about the autofocus not being up to usual nikon standard. Ive seen some pics with it and it looks pretty good to me. Check it out on dpreview and flickr to see for yourself and start looking up youtube reviews. Seems like a good start. People here talk about buying a cheaper body and spending most of your budget on glass. I dunno I'd rather have a good, capable brand new body that I can get a decade of solid use out of and invest in glass over time.

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>>4026442
>>4026437
That looks like a great option, thanks!
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Anyone hide one of these in a camera bag?
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>>4026651
Prima facie and things that ruin your day if you look at them wrong are more fun.
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>>4026656
how high are you?
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>>4026661
Not at all, working on a good buzz though and it’s taking its time. Just saying, camera bags are thief fodder and some shitty looking personalized not!camera bag full of photographic chemicals in specially marked containers for professional use and some specialized cleaning tools and other implements that may or may not imply prima facie intent in a given jurisdiction make for a news article when someone "finds" it. It’s a neat thought experiment.

What kind of retard carries a camera bag but doesn’t carry a way to defend himself and his property? What kind of retard leaves their shit sitting anywhere?

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I could have this lens for 40 €, unused and even with some warranty remaining. Do you think it would be a pretty good deal? It's the DAL version with a plastic mount. I already have the DA version, but it's badly decentered.
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>>4024773
is there a difference in sharpness and level of stabilization between newest nikon and canon standard kit lenses? Namely, the 18-55mm 4-5.6 from canon and af-p 18-55mm 3.5-5.6 from nikon...
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>Sigma 10-20 3.5
vs
>Tamron 10-24 3.5-5.6
Best cheapo ultrawide zoom?
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>>4027376
Have you considered those Tokina 11-16/11-20 ones? I hear a lot of people like those.
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>>4027376
>smegma
>tampon
Ugh. I wouldn't touch ether. You need to spend cash for quality or buy a good wide prime. Again no Tampons and Smegmas.
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>>4027376
Cosina, they make all voigtländer lenses after all
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CL has a Lumix FZ200 super-zoom listed for $375. The lens looks decent, Leica 2.8 across the entire zoom range. Is this a good deal, or is this an outdated shitter?

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>>4027411
>you need to spend
No, In don't NEED to spend more for "premium quality" just for a hobby
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Wanted this fucker since it first came out, but couldn't afford moving up to FF at the time. I'm going to use the shit out of it even if it's a bit outdated. Could have gotten the 50 f/1.4 for $300 more but I like how compact the 55mm is.
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With more and more people migrating to mirrorless cameras, do you think the prices of used DSLRs and lenses will drop anytime soon?
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>>4027494
all lenses drop in price with time, it's just extremely desirable/specialized/rare lenses will drop slower. poors will still buy older lenses to adapt so the lower end will never drop as low as pre-mirrorless levels. for instance, I bought a Vivitar Series 1 70-210 (Komine, so best version) for around $30 back when I first got my NEX-6. Now a lens in the same condition would be 3-5x that price easily.
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>>4027494
You may see the "dead mount" drop for some brands but only when they start sundowning whole platforms.
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>>4027510
>sundowning
RED SUN OVER PARADISE
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I have a full set of Fuji gear. X-T3, XF56mm, XF33mm, XF16mm. But I usually only bring my camera when I travel somewhere or on some special occasions.

Thinking now of getting something pocketable that I can bring anywhere without the need of a bag or so. Is the Ricoh GRIII a good option for that?

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>>4027534
XH1 & GR is my setup for digital.
it's the first edition of the GR, so I imagine the GRIII is many times better, although I would miss the flash massively. but it's still my favourite camera i've ever used. that sounds like a killer setup
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>>4027537
sounds good, thanks bud
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>>4027490
The polished soft aluminium feels really nice in usage. Happy shooting Anon.
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>>4027541
it's definitely not polished and has a matte finish. the APS-C 50mm 1.8 OSS is a polished/brushed hybrid. The 55m is close to the 85mm in overall finish but feels a bit denser and has a tighter focus ring.
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>>4027605
>it's definitely not polished and has a matte finish
It gets that matte surface from polishing.

The other method is brushing, and leaves tiny scratches on the surface.
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Which brands do you chaps trust for memory cards?
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>>4027657
Most of them work from my experience.

The only crap one that died on me is the PNY brand.
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>>4027663
I have an old Panasonic card that I got with my first camera, a Samsung, and currently a Lexar
>Panasonic doesn't bother making them anymore but it never gave me problems aside from capacity being small
>Samsung got corrupted, but likely due to a usb port on computer going bad
>Lexar is a dead shell company
Was planning to get more to have extras around and/or to prepare for video. Guess I'll just see what's for sale at the speed I want.
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>>4027490
Sucks that this gets cheaper but the 24/1.8 is still the same used price 10 years on
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I want to get out of m43 and get a fuji, but man is it *really* worth it? I know it's not going to make me a better photographer, but I feel at this point that I do not like the process of photography at all and hoping it would revitilize the hobby.

Also I just developed a real real hate to my current camera. It's too small for my large hands snd I get wrist cramps from holding it too long. Autofocus almost never works to the point where I just focus on a point and reposition, making most of the photos slightly out of focus. I have to overexpose the photos since recovering anything from shadows is almost impossible, but then if I'd like to shoot in low light it's already struggling to gather any light. And I just really dislike the colours and how the photos come out - the only way I sometimes redeem the photos is by post processing it to shit and I'm not really a fan of editing heavily.

Also the sharpening is annoying, it's so unnatural and digital.
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>>4027657
samsung
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>>4027606
bro it's fucking matte paint. there's no polish. also pretty interesting that the 55mm f1.8 and the APS-C 50mm f1.8 both have 49mm filter threads.
>>4027671
The 24mm is APS-C only and launched at $1100 ($100 more than the 55mm at launch) and is now selling for $800 new while the 55mm has been holding steady at $1K (a few sales down to $900) since its launch. If you're looking used the 24mm is a good $100-200 cheaper than the 55mm as well. I personally wouldn't bother with APS-C lenses due to how much they tank in value though. I bought my Sigma 16mm and 30mm f/1.4 on massive discount and I'd still barely break even if I sell them now.
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>>4027657
scamsung or scamdisk
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>>4024773
Lady was giving away her grandpa's photography gear

Honeywell Nikkor enlarger with the extra heads
Developer tank
Some russian Wirgin Prontor
Some folding bellow camera
A fucking Olympus 35 s
Minolta maxuum 4
Sears tls with a flash

I'm keeping the oly bc I've been looking for a rangefinder and honestly fell in love with it when I seen it in the box the rest is getting sold on ebay

Also got a Pentax iqzoom 115 and another IQ but with shorter range that will be put up for sale
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>>4027680
>paint.
Anodisation isn't a "paint". I don't think you understand the processes involved to get aluminium become that soft. Just stick o photography.
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what's the most fun and engaging digital camera to shoot with?
Leica M?
Fujifilm X-Pro?
Ricoh GR?
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Has anyone tried out the Tamron 18-300 yet for Sony or Fuji?

Highest I have currently is 18-55, would like a zoom and the ability to just bring the 18-300 and maybe a small prime with me is very tempting, but curious if any anons use it
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Whats his setup bros and how can I be like him? He got a whole tele up in the court room

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>>4027755
man is ballin up in the court

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>>4027755
EOS R5
EF 200-400 f4
$15k setup

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>>4027747
Leica M, Nikon Df with manual lans, Epson R-D1,
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>>4027676
Get an X-T3. It's great.
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>>4027676
Sounds stupid to me. If you want to experience something new, why settle for some halfway shit. You are complaining about shooting in low light so that means one thing. Go full frame so you can experience both extremes.

Whatever you do, dont listen to the guy above me telling you to buy a fuji. He didn't even read your post. I dont know what you've got but Im willing to bet you've got an olympus because pannys are nice and bulky in the hand and if you're complaining about wrist cramps, I bet you dont have an EM1 with the grip, that means, EM5 or 10. Am I right? Just dont buy a fuji. Those things arent much bigger than the EM5/10 and have pretty much the exact same grip. I like the idea of them with all the dials on top, but they are too fucking small for me. Feel like Im gonna break the damn thing.

I'd get a starter full frame if I was you and there are 2 that stand out right now

>Lumix S5 with the 20-60 f3.5-5.6 combo
>Nikon Z5 with the 24-70 f4 combo

Sit it out and wait for mid-year sales and pick one of those up in a combo with the zoom included. Great value in that. Then you can get a fast prime down the line and thats all you need really. If you wanna shoot any video go for the Lumix, but if you dont do any of that, either will suffice.
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>>4027676
>>4027768
Here's your lens options if you decide to go full frame either S5 or Z5. All of these are great top tier options. Any one of these would be a great addition down the line to the kit lenses the cameras are bundled with.

If youre a landscape and nature kinda guy, I'd get a 24, but if you shoot any kind of wildlife, an 85 would be more useful. Really you really need some kind of a telephoto for that, but those are expensive for either system. If youre more into shooting people or specific singular subjects, the 85mm would be better for the more flattering focal length and compression. Depends what you shoot really but you probably already know all this. Hope i helped

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Is there a camera that's as tanky as the TG 6 but with better image quality and full manual?
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>>4027676
Ignore this nonsense >>4027760 >>4027768 >>4027775

pic related and call it a day
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>>4027819
The new 28-60mm is better though.
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>>4027819
>>4027830
Someone explain this to me. Why not just buy an A7IV. Seems like the sweet spot. Its better than the 3 and worth 500 bucks more, but its not $1000 worse than the R and the s3

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>>4027819
you mean this
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>>4027843
>thinking ISO 51,200 is meaningful
>comparing jpg instead of raw
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>>4025031
what happened anon?
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How many more years until this combo is sub $1k? It's literally all I need but I cant justify spending any more
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>>4028171
Not going to hit that price unless g10 released and g9 is on clearance, even then it’s a stretch.
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>>4027843
The A7III there is the best tho, pic's not supporting your point there bud
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>>4028217
Are you fucking blind. Shes literally as overcooked as the street dogs she eats

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Is this a good deal or no
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>>4028296
I know a lot of people like m43 but this one is an entry level m43, so all the negatives except more.

I just sold my olly so I would say don't do it.
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which digital camera has the best luminance noise to chroma noise ratio? (luminance noise = good, chroma noise = bad)

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>>4028457
hasselblad h6d-400c
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>Want to get a Fujifilm x-t4
>The internet says x-t5 will release soon
>Want to get a Sony a7 IV
>There will be a day when a7 V comes out
>Want to get a Nikon z7
>There will be a day when Nikon z8 comes out
WHY CANT I JUST HAVE CAMERA WITHOUT IT BECOMING OBSOLETE WHY DO THEY HAVE TO RELEASE THEM LIKE GODDAMN IPHONES STUPID MODEL NUMBERS DRIVING ME INSANE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>4028610
you have mental illness, just buy the camera. all three cameras you mentioned are superb and will be relevant tools for years to come.
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>>4028457
Cameras capture luminance. Noise is noise.
For color they do so behind a bayer filter. That's where color comes from. There's nothing in a camera that inherently increases or decreases "chroma noise" because that's entirely somehting that's generated in the post processing.

If you shoot RAW you just want a camera with low noise. Stop watching faggots on youtube who are nothing but shills and psuedo-scientists. All the "low chroma noise" shit is literally just in-camera JPEG noise reduction post processing. If you're worried about noise you're probably not a JPEG shooter so stop worrying about it.
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>>4028610
Listen, you don't need all the stupid bullshit they may or may not be adding. Assuming you already have something, just get better glass.
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I got a canon 1000d lying around with kit lens. What cheap ef or efs lens can i buy to take some decent pics with it?
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>>4028610
>mirrorless
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I like the original fat xbox controller. What's a good bulky mirrorless camera? Must be mirrorless because I want it mainly for video.

Why do these companies think we all want some little tiny spindly little thing. I cant find a single one to suit. Olympus is almost the perfect camera for me, but they're children's toys. Just way too small for me. I have big hands and it feels like I'm going to drop the damn thing, even ones with a grip. I hate the feeling. I have also tried a Fuji XT and they are the same. Why are these cameras so goddamn small bros?
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Is this the biggest meme camera that exists?
https://pixii.fr/new-pixii-camera
>2499 Euros for 8GB
>No SD card storage
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>>4028685
>2500 euro for 8GB with no external storage? What the fuck?
Are YOU a meme? Or are you just here giving us truth? I don't know what to believe and no I don't care to google it.

This sounds retarded unless that's 8GB of ultra fast storage capable of gigabytes per second writes for an extreme high FPS RAW burst mode or something, with USB-C external SSDs for people who need more.

8GB otherwise is literally unusable.
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>>4028667
Z9 or Olympus EM1X
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>>4028719
>$5500 flagship or $3k micro penis
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>>4028720
You didn't specify price range, stupid subhuman mouthbreather
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New glass, the 2.8 ai-s is the meme lens but by all accounts the 3.5 is just as sharp and it was less than half the price
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>>4028837
Fuck

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>>4028685
It's more of a meme that it's M mount and APS-C....
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>>4028685
Black and white only leica
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>>4027759
>Df
How does the Df's sensor hold up compared to the latest?
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>>4028880
I found it great in low light and works well with vintage Nikon glass.
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Ok friends, I need your help. I am finally yeeting my mft lumix out the window and facing a 700 euro decision:

>X-T2 with xc 15-45 and a kamlan 50mm 1.1
or
>Sony A7 with 28-70mm and a Samyang 85 1.4

Which pack would you go with ?
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>>4029083
If you're serious, the fuji. Saw an old guy with one today, even had the fat lens and it didn't look stupid.
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>>4029083
the fuji has soul and isn't a toy
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>>4028667
>I have big hands
You mean fat hands, american
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is there a lot of difference in X-T2 and X-T20? i cant find any T2 around here
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>>4029093
Im 6 foot lean australian. I think Im just gonna get a camera with a battery grip. I completely forgot they existed. Lumix s5 looks like a good deal.

No its not true what they say about people with big hands/feet.

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>>4029220
>No its not true what they say about people with big hands/feet
same. battery grips feel too big and bulky, so I just get the corresponding arca l-bracket with every camera I buy. and recently i found out RRS has L-brackets with QD ports, so it makes it super easy (and fairly expensive) to attach a nice strap to the l bracket. like pic, but has the full l bracket instead of just a plate. i've had an l bracket save a camera from a fall once so i always use one now.
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It's pretty big, lads.
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How retarded would I be to buy a t-x4 now just 2 weeks before the announcements?
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>>4024773
Is this a good deal

price australian?
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>>4029294
Used? Completely fine.
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>>4029325
n-new
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>>4029294
>>4029331
But XT3 is going for like 999 right now. Are you going to get 700 dollars more out of XT4? Its almost twice the price.
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>>4029294
I just did, and I regret nothing
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>>4029325
He can't support fooj if he doesn't buy new. Supporting his employer is all that matters.
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>>4029340
this really is a fantastic looking camera, really does look like an old slr
I have the xt30 for the form factor but I love the look of fuji's flagships
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Is the 55-300 (DX VR) nikkor a decent tele for $170? (Euro market prices)? The 70-300 is usually significantly more expensive, but maybe that's more to do with it being FX/DX?
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When you go to the electronics section on amazon and click on camera and photo and then click on the new to photography category, this is what comes up. I really expected worse. I dont think any of these are bad choices. You've got all the bases covered.

The dlsr and 18-55 classic
The budget compact for the not so serious traveler
The bridge cam for the eternal poorfag
The z50 for the serious beginner with a big pocket
The m50 for the vlogging/youtube degenerates
And the premium compact for the pocketable enthusiast

What do you guys think about this?
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>>4029425
It's a dying market. Canon is about to kill EF-m and consolidate everything into RF.
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>>4029425
There is nothing else. Algorithms and paid advertisements do their part but that is essentially the bottom of the market and even that may not exist in a few years.
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I know its kind of shallow and womanly but I really don't like the handling or aesthetics of my RX100. What's a camera that's similar/better in the same price range, but better handling and looking?
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>>4029559
Cheap nobody ever says anything good about it yet everyone wants one
It will spoil you and even if you get a better camera youl still end up taking it instead
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>>4029561
Is there any real difference between the G5X and G5X 2?
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Any recs for a good all round lens that's good for low light for the EM5 III? Looking at that for my body and want a good single lens.
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>>4029563
Newer gen everything pop up evf and it doesn't looks like a shrunken mirrorless camera they also got rid of the tilty Flippy LCD it only pivots up and down

>It's compatible with webcam utility
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>>4024773
Boys I wanna vlog but Im not a sissy faggot pansy boy. Im in aus and I wanna go on night walks and go out in the pouring rain. Panna S5 looks good but I reckon the autofocus would lose me in the dark. XS10 is almost perfect because Im pretty sure i dont really need a full frame for video right? Even if Im walking around in low lit streets. But the fuckin things not weather sealed.

What are my options?

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>>4029596
Get that Oly EM1 MK3 with 12mm f2
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>>4029716
I was looking at getting the 12-40 f2.8 combo and getting the 8mm fisheye down the line because its weathersealed. That 12mm f2 isnt and Im talking like pouring rain vlogs. Im pretty weird. Also does olympus still split up videos into 3 minute segments? I looked into this in 2020 and people were complaining about it
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>>4029719
>Also does olympus still split up videos into 3 minute segments?
Apparently yes. But you should still buy the 12-40mm combo then with either Em1 mark iii or Om system Om-1
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Sony should make an updated R1 with something like 24-150mm and f/2-f/4 as a replacement for the RX10M2. Should be possible without much increase in size. That shit was seriously impressive for the time. Borrowed one from an uncle once and I had no idea what I was doing but I recall the photos came out looking quite good.
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>>4029596
>Im in aus
>Im not a sissy faggot pansy boy
doubt
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Just got a pristine copy for 225€, what am I in for?
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>>4029907
>300mm
not long enough.
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>>4029918
what for?
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Is CIPA more conservative than real life usage? I ran out to buy a second battery as had a shoot coming up. Then took 850 odd shots and still had 36% battery remaining on first battery.
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what the shit is this thing
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how much is it worth paying for a Zorki 4K body that doesnt wind the shutter? It looks in good condition apart from the apparent fault with the winding of the shutter
possible to fix yourself?
a thrift store in town has one out for €10
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Build your perfect camera. I wanna hear your designs.

Mine will not be some retarded $15k high end piece of junk. We will be price:performance king and make a killing.

>Panasonic will be head of the entire project
They handle IBIS, lens stab, cooling solution, all the internal video features, battery and the body design itself. Internal fan to allow 10-bit 4:2:2 4k24 and 8-bit everything else. 4k60 5.9k sampled, 1080p120 200mbps, 1080p60 100mbps, all pal and ntsc options and everything else uncropped. 30min recording limits to avoid stupid taxes and keep the price down. All lenses and the body will be weather sealed by panasonic and 100% functional inside of a tropical cyclone.

>Fuji, Sony and Nikon make up the sensor and lens division
Sony's in charge of autofocus and will be working with Fujinon to develop super fast AF responsive lenses. A trio of primes, a kit zoom that the camera will be sold with and a telephoto will be developed. 20mm f1.4, 50mm f1.8 and a 75mm f2, a 20-50 f2.8-4 and a 100-400 f3.5-4. All lenses will have panasonic power OIS. We will call the mount xalphag.

Fuji is going to get help from Nikon fabs to build a 24MP xtrans full frame backlit sensor and it's going to be a collaboration of Nikon and Fuji color science. Sony is lending engineers to push the ISO performance so far in the dark its going to compete with infrared trail cams.

Olympus and Canon are playing with themselves in a corner.

The camera will be called the GXZ1 and will be $2000 and destroy literally everything.

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>>4030064
Basically I’d merge A7r and A7 line into A7v and add a few things. I would add a way to use screen as tilt screen while keeping swivel mechanism from A7iv. The higher res vf etc. I’d also use a quad Bayer style sensor, since they can still be used as a normal Bayer sensor in full res mode too. Which is where the combined r and normal line come in. 33mp in normal mode, 132mp in autist mode.

I’d like to add a SSD vis usb C functionally like the Sigma Fp is it? Has. Raw video straight to ssd.

Honestly I’m not really sure in reality, there’s little I want over what I got already, maybe allow 10 fps in uncompressed raw mode for the ‘tism?
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>>4029596
olympus something for night AF. em1-3 or em1-2 if you wanna save some dosh.
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>>4030064
>Build your perfect camera. I wanna hear your designs.
fujifilm x-e4 with ibis and weather sealing, and more first party grips to let me go as slim or as deep as i want.
that's pretty much it. it's as close to perfect for me as can be.
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>>4030064
Alright boys. Here we go. No need to thank me. Here's the perfect camera.

>Canon
is designing the body. I want an EOS RP, exactly like the RP but bigger, a lot bigger, mainly to accommodate the bigger sensor, active cooling fan and the 5000mah nuke battery in the grip. No fucking top mounted stupid screens. Dials. All dials. Fuji dials. Fuck you.

>Olympus
is doing the weather sealing on body and lens. I want that shit to be dunkable underwater. Also they are in charge of ibis and the digital stab.

>Sony
is supplying the EVF and back panel. Fully articulating and fold out on a separate hinge. They are also doing autofocus. I want this shit to be able to lock onto a frogs eye from 2km away in the dark.

>Fuji
is supplying the sensor. Why improve what's already good? Grab surplus medium format fuji sensors and throw one of those in there after Sony's tuned it up a bit.

>Panasonic
is doing the lens OIS and all the menus and video features and if canon doesnt like it they can suck my fat tranny loving cock.

>Nikon
is making the lens. We're signing a legally binding document that is going to support the mount for the next 50 years. Who gives a fuck about who makes the lens honestly Im just giving this to nikon so they have something to do. Its all good shit. Here's what were doing. 20mm f1.8 wide and reasonably light for vlogging faggots, astro and nightscapes. 75mm f2 for portraits. 24-70 f2.8 kit zoom the camera comes with. All are weather sealed and ois. I dont give a fuck about anything else. Fuck you and your teles.

Camera is 5 grand and comes with a 10 year warranty. Please, preorders one at a time.
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>>4030090
>>Sony
>is supplying the EVF and back panel.
not pentax?
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>>4030064
A Ricoh GR I/II (without the GR issues), XF10, RX100 sized pants pocket apsc with built in EVF (popup is ok), tilt screen, highly customizable menu and buttons, snap focus, water resistant, IS, Sony AF, built in flash (fixed and non tilting is ok), hot shoe, high IQ sensor good for low light even at iso 6400. Better if it can have interchangeable lens capability but I guess fixed 28 is ok.
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>>4030099
Sony has the world highest resolution EVF.

To the point where contrarian clickbait youtubers begged them to scale down or remove EVF entirely because they don't want to pay for all of that.
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>>4030099
A weapon to surpass metal gear
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>>4030064
<-I want this EVF

I want it to have this feature:
https://youtu.be/A9muBcF_QPw?t=241
Can turn the camera in any direction without changing the exposure.
Can adjust the aperture to any value without changing the exposure.

And this feature:
https://youtu.be/0eFVoG4ETE8?t=91
Ultimate sharpness and togglable moire removal in camera.

And I want crosstype PDAF
https://www.gsmarena.com/sony_unveils_2x2_onchip_lens_tech_for_quad_bayer_sensors_which_promises_better_af_performance-news-40523.php

I want the battery in the Z9, it can store over twice the energy as a standard DLSR battery.

And I want high resolution sensor, but with dial that can scale down RAW with a high quality downscale algorithm.
It should have programmable settings as well, so whenever I insert an older lens with low resolution the camera automatically knows to scale down the resolution and save filesize.

Oh and it should have extra mini dials that let me input focal length value and aperture value to overwrite into EXIF. The focal length dial will link up the IBIS manual setting as well.

There we go, my perfect camera.
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Bros tossing up between an OMD or a K70/KP
I'd like a good hybrid
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>>4030183
>K70
wtf is that....you mean pentax k70? Have you done zero research? Pentax literally have zero video features.

Depends on what youre shooting but I'd go olympus. em1mkii with the 12-40 combo is going for less in some places than the new em1mkiii body alone. Top tier weather sealing so you can hike with it in the rain. Amazing stab. Good solid autofocus that works even in low light, even if that micro penis sensor is gonna get noisy in low light, If youre looking at a K70, Im guessing you've got about a grand to spend so I really dont know what you're gonna do with that man.
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>>4030090
>Nikon is making the lens.
They have been struggling recently. I unironically have more trust in Sony optics these days.
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>>4029422
I had one with a D40 (6mpx) and it was fantastic, I don't know how it will be with higher megapixel count. I've seen them for 50€ second hand though, so you can probably do much better than that.
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>>4030244
>>4029422
sorry, I was talking about the 55-200vr, I just realized you asked for the 55-300
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>>4024773
bros I thought dslr was meant to be cheap. Why is the d7500 so expensive. Ausfag pricing but I can get an xt30 and the 18-55 for like 300 bucks less. I can get the z50 for 200 less. Doesnt make any sense. I thought theyre tryna get rid of these
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anyone using EF-S 55-250mm f/4.0-5.6 IS STM for eos m? Is it better than the native efm zoomlens?
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guys

wtf is this shit I just found on amazon
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>>4030268
Dual flash mostly for macro stuff.
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>>4030247
NP. Someone snatched it on Friday evening anyway. I've been trying out the 35 prime, which I picked up couple days ago and I'm liking it a lot more than the 18-140 kit lens.

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>>4030290
Retardedly big 25mm flange. I think Even Canon and Leica's 20mm flange was bad enough.

But Sansung wasted 25mm of space in front of the sensor.
And they didn't evne fir in useful things like the AuroND electronic filter in the FS5.
It was wasted potential.
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>>4030268
goatse camera
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USN4 Pro vs ISDT NP2 chargers?

NP2
>takes multiple different Sony batteries, but I probably won’t make use of that
>But NP-FZ100 batteries have to be put in standing upright
>both slots can charge at 1.5A simultaneously

USN4 Pro
>only for NP-FZ100
>but batteries are placed laying down slotted in more secure, esp for car trips
>only 1.2A max for single battery or 800mA for two batteries

Both similar weights

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>>4030468

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>>4030469
>>4030468
Also watched a review stating you shouldn’t use the fast charge mode on batteries all the time with the ISDT etc, presumably due to battery long driving, but considering it’s 1.5A and the capacity is ~2200mAh, it’s charge rate is 0.65C which is below standard normal charge of 1C for li-ions p, isn’t it?
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>>4030468
Just take a usb C cable with you, and a wallplug to USB converter and charge from the camera overnight.

Battery capacity is at the point where you no longer need those specialist chargers unless you for some reason record hours of 4K video.
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>>4030042
yes, cipa have long idle time for every photo with screen or evf on and uses power zoom and flash often. I never had any problems with one extra battery for a full day of shooting even when the camera have mediocre cipa rating (but I don’t shot pro).
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>>4030556
I don't think they test for power zoom in ilc. It's only in cameras with build-in lenses where they test powerzoom. Many ILC mounts don't even have power zoom available.

They usually just test for
Start up power consumption +
30 second idle power consumption +
Exposure power consumption +
Flash interface power consumption +
Shutdown power consumption

It sort of simulates a walk around in the city pretty fairly.
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>>4030253
>buying bnew dslr

Get a used d7100/d7200 and some af/afd lenses
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>>4029907
How's the performance and your camera? Planning to get one for my D600.
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>>4030589
I'll report back when i get it, still waiting for it to ship
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I have had a terrible experience buying cameras, used and new. I'll tell my story if you wanna hear it /p/

I got a starter dlsr. It broke within 2 months. Shutter was busted or something and it was gonna cost $250, not worth fixing. Then after realizing I really liked photography, I upped my budget to like $750 and got an XT2 with a 35mm. Really good condition cosmetically but it had all these dead pixels and the on/off slider was almost seized. Sent it back. Then I thought, I have had enough of used. So I found an Em5mkiii on sale for $940 with the f2.8 kit lens. Brand new, factory sealed. I thought, this thing will do, its a good deal, bought it, done. Guess what? dead pixels or hot pixels or whatever it is they call it. All over the place, worse than the fuji. Back in the mail

So here I am now, 4 months after beginning to look for a camera and back on the compact camera that got me into photography to begin with. Here is a picture I took on my first dslr, before I knew what I was doing. The composition is terrible, it's iso 800 in broad daylight, the horizon isnt level and Im at a ridiculous aperture for some reason. Its all so wrong and it's laughable now but I won't fix it. The picture doesn't mean anything but now that I look at it, I wonder if those little reeds are still there, from all those months ago, growing and withstanding or have they died. I guess I'll go back there next weekend and find out.

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I have a Canon Prima Twin here, it has one of those 5mm straps that are threaded through the body of the camera so that it hangs vertically, and the original has to be replaced. What are these straps called?
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>>4030601
What kind of photography are you going to use it for?
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Guys, guys guys guys

How retarded would I be? Come on. Just give it to me straight
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>>4030859
It's a fine travel cam and use very low footprint in for bag for what it can do.

Its only weakness is you have have to carry 3-4 batteries with you, and have a couple of compact dual battery chargers.
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>>4030864
I dont want a travel cam. Im talking full on adoption, daily driver here. Im kinda weird though. I think I'll wait for the V anyway or I dunno. All they gotta do is put one of those A7 batteries in it and that magic sony af and I'm sold.
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>>4030868
>I think I'll wait for the V anyway
You should probably check how long ago the iv was released.
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>>4030870
5 years this october. Almost as long as it's reach. People were talking about V rumors 2 years ago. Why dont they just make it bros. What are they holding out for? Will it be so good that they will cannibalize all their other sales? It hurts

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>>4030859
as long as you're aren't a pixel peeper, don't care about bokeh, don't need real time AF (still has eye AF) and don't shoot in low light it's good. so if you're migrating from m43 you would be right at home
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Is this a good deal for 599€??
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>>4030884
Whoa, free prime? Hell yeah. That'll get you goin.
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>>4030820
initially landscape and portraits on a d750 and possibly adapted to an x-t4
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Just bought a Sony A7Siii and it's been great for what I do. My only issue is that I can't seem to get the SD cards set up correctly. I have a V90 SD card in Slot 1 and a normal V30 in Slot 2. I want all my 4K 60-120 fps video to go to the V90 card and all of the photos go to the V30 card.

Maybe I'm just dumb but I can't seem to get it to do that. It either says it can't record because I have a V30 card in and to switch slots or I have to take the V30 card out to even record anything.

I mean I guess I could always just buy another V90 SD card but I already have a few good V30s.

Any ideas?
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>>4030956
I think the 2nd slot is just meant for redundancy, not for splitting up video vs stills.
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Got this for $25 at a yardsale and fixed it. Just sent in my test roll

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>>4028880

Decent but needs a split-image screen. You can get one put in them.

Get one, you'll love it.
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>>4031014
very nice fren
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Thrift /p/ickups of recent.
Pretty delighted by that Kalimar Transparencies. One of these days I'll need to try some 110.

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Should I pull the trigger on the Voigt 58mm 1.4 SL II?
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>>4031169
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>>4031179
You can turn it into a lens with autofocus if you have E-mount or Z-mount.
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I want a setup that's fun to use in full manual mode, is not too big, and is not too costly
so no P&S, no used 5D4, and no M10
for years my main setup has consisted in a 5d3 + a number of L zoom lenses, though now I just want to have some dumb fun and I'm not looking for especially fast AF or weather sealing, though a high image quality, especially sharpness, would be a great plus
I don't know how long I'll keep this setup for so I'd like to have the chance of either some upgradeability or the ability to sell it with little loss
I'm currently considering the following, all used:
>Ricoh GR3 or GR3X for around €650
>Fuji X-Pro2 or X-Pro3 and whatever good 23mm or so lens for around €1300-2000
>Sony a7r3 or a7c and whatever good 35mm or so lens for around €1800-2400
>Sony RX1R2 if I can find one in acceptable conditions for less than €1500
I welcome all sorts of feedback on my shortlist and any suggestions about alternative setups

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>>4031185
I have the GR III and I love that little thing. Sharpness is incredible and is totaly equal if not better than my DSLR or my XT20 with the 35mm or the 23mm f1.4.

Autofocus in low light is as worse as you could possibly imagine, yet snap focus is a nice feature. Overall usability, menue and the standard Layout is very well done and due to its size I bring it anywhere I go. I can highly recommend it to anyone looking for a daily carry camera that wants the better usability and quality that you can get from your smartphone
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>>4031185
Is the xpro really that big or are the sonys really that small? I'm too broke to have even seen either irl
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>>4031204
It's functionally much smaller all around, rangefinders tend to be taller than slr bodies but smaller than the "pentaprism" bump. Neither are small in the grand scheme.
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>>4031204
The RX1 and the Sigma fp are small.
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Just got this today for 40 USD. It's a Jupiter 37A 135mm f/3.5 lens
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>market is so fucked that you might as well buy new instead of buying used for almost the same price
Is it just Australia or is it like this other places?
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Is a G9 overkill for a beginner? Should I look at getting a different body?
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Babbys first fool frame what are my subjects in for?

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>>4031407
Same in my yuropoor country
People selling out of warranty a7iii bodies with 50k+ shutter counts for 1500 eur when it's ~1750 eur new
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>>4031407
G9 goes on amazon for $999 every now and then and cunts are selling used couple year old ones on ebay for $950. Fuckin idiots.

Some other bastard was selling an S5 filmmaking kit with another lens for 3700, like, come on dickhead I can get a new one with the 20-60 for 2500 and your lens is 900 new. He made an offer drop to 3500, yeah fuck off
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>>4031407
parramatta cameras selling A7II for 1500 bucks brand new in the box, factory sealed. Now go type that in ebay. Fuckin drug addicts
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>>4031542
>a7ii
Please give me one good reason why this is a better deal over a Panasonic S5 or Nikon Z6 for the same price? Old camera with awful ergos and dubious weather sealing with one of the worst EVFs I’ve ever seen in a modern camera.
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New head to head comparison from Dustin

Long end center.
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Long end corner.
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Short end center.
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Short end corner.
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>>4031582
Oh come on. 2 newer and more expensive cameras are better. Wow you dont say? genius take

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I dont know where else to post this guys so here. Im going to dump some info regarding my own personal experience in terms of hardware, particularly bodies themselves.

Canon, Nikon and Sony are rock solid in terms of reliability. Nikon and Sony have well known lens issues but they're not regarding direct mechanical failures so I can't speak much on it because it's an RMA retailer claim situation.

Olympus is the most dogshit company around. If someone leaked that they're using straight up reject sony and panasonic sensors I wouldn't be surprised. The amount of hot pixels I have seen on their cameras is beyond anything else. Straight out of the box most of the time, but sometimes within a few years they start to crop up, typically within months of a new purchase and it seems to be getting more common, especially in em5mkiii.

Fuji's quality control is lackluster. Fuji people already know that between different samples of the same lens, but it applies to the lens construction and bodies themselves, especially button actuation and weather sealing. Over time, the gaskets dry out and crack and the camera/lens becomes compromised. In addition to this, the button, switch ring or rocker that the seal was insulating can become increasingly hard to actuate, particularly the on/off slider on the camera body and lens focus and focal length rings since constant actuation typically agitates these gaskets frequently causing them to dry faster than any other and begin to seize or at least greatly inhibit the actuation of the mechanism.

Pentax are great to work on because they're so simple. Everything goes where you expect. The only gripe I have with them is the different screw sizes which you can't memorize because models come in so infrequently because noone uses them. Shame.

Lumix is something I know the least about due to inexperience with them, which I guess is a good thing when you think about it. They're probably up there with the big 3, but I dont know for sure.
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>buy what you'll enjoy and use instead of trying to minmax every dollar
>tfw not stressed about gear after realising this
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I want to get a good bag for my gear. what's generally the best one you can get? I'm currently considering a shimoda.
also I'll need something that can carry a tripod, dslr, 70-200,200-500, + some other stuff.
(I have been considering something big enough to include my Bronica GS-1 but that can probably wait for another day, just need something for daily carries)
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>>4031728
>something that can carry a tripod, dslr, 70-200,200-500, + some other stuff
a suitcase
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>>4031740
well I guess what I'm wondering is that kind of volume would I need for that? 30, 50, 70, more?
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>>4031742
>70, more?
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>>4031745
so then do you think I should maybe go for something like the shimoda X70
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>>4031589
>>4031590
>>4031592
>>4031593
I really don't get the point of theses tests other than to demonstrate that the Sony is better than the Fuji
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>>4031728
The Shimoda Explore is great for carrying and even storing your stuff; unfortunately my straps were really badly executed (seams coming off) and Shimoda never answered me when I sent them a mail about it
Shoud maybe write them another mail
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>>4031997
It's a head to head. Someone is bound to win it, it's inevitable.
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>>4032005
But no one's ever going to say
>Hmmm first and foremost I NEED a 100-450/500 FFE telezoom for an APSC camera, let me look at these tests to then figure out which camera I should buy with it
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>>4032010
Plenty of people bought a Nikon camera because of the 200-500 f5.6
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>>4032010
I'm sure long reach is part of the considerations when buying into a system.

Another way you can look at it is it pressure Fujifilm to do better.
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>>4032011
These people aren't going to buy a Sony or Fuji APSC

>>4032012
Fuji doesn't care about tele, their telezooms are all mediocre or shit and they're never going to make another supertele prime (which is a shame but economically totally reasonable)
They didn't even care enough to make their new zoom f/7.1 instead of f/8 at the long end
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>>4032013
Removing the criticism isn't the answer to make them care.
It just means they need more criticism.
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>>4032013
>These people aren't going to buy a Sony or Fuji APSC
Are you sure?
It's currently the only system with an internally zooming 600mm. Wildlife shooters love internal zooms.
It also had a cheap Sigma option.
And a cheap Tamron option.
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>>4032019
I meant Sony APSC, obvously as a wildlife shooter Sony FF would be my first choice
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>>4032020
The APS-C can use full frame optics too.
Canikon shooters did this all the time.
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so I've been waiting to see if Nikon ever comes out with a higher mp camera. but it seems like it might not happen. should I just go with the Z7ii? I mean, even if I crop an okay amount I will still have a better resolution than the D750 I have now.
I really do want something 60mp+, but it's probably not going to happen, right?
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>>4032078
Just grab a Sigma fpL or a Sony.
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>>4032078
D850 anon.
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>>4032080
I'd have to sell all my lenses if i wanted to do that, I wouldn't lose a ton of money compared to what I got them for, but still. I kinda wanted something where I can just keep it and still be able to get some use out of the D750 (but then again if the camera is just better, idk if I'd use it much I guess)

>>4032082
well thats still only 45mp, and I've been wanting a mirrorless. the only real benefit to the D850 is the battery life. otherwise I prefer everything that comes with something like the Z7ii
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>>4032085
BTW what lenses do you have? Saw an ebay deal for an 80-200mm 2.8 AF for $100 plus shipping. It might be too heavy for my needs.

What I don't like with Z series are the lenses. My af lenses will not autofocus on them. Nikon should just made an F mount mirrorless. Z mount is only useful if they put a medium format sensor inside.
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>>4032086
>Z mount is only useful if they put a medium format sensor inside.
IT would actually be pretty cool is they made a new random FF+ so the sensor is just a little bit larger, and some of the lenses would be compatible still.
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>>4032086
I have a couple but mains are the Nikon 200-500, tamron 70-200 g2, and tamron 24-70
also, the reason I want higher mp is also that I do landscapes a lot, but I also do street and birds, so having that af stuff is nice with the mirrorlesses. also I just kinda like having an EVF, the only thing I prefer a OVF is for macro since it can be really dark to where you cant just boost the iso to see whats going on well.
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>>4032090
for the street I just brought I cheapo MFT camera

>tamron 70-200 g2, and tamron 24-70
>Nikon 200-500
>2.3kg

Noice damn lenses. But fuck that's heavy. Are you a pro and what do you usually shoot?
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>>4032092
no, not a pro (who knows maybe some day), I just do it for fun, though I do print for myself
I usually shoot landscapes though, might seem kinda weird to have long lenses, but I really prefer intimate landscape scenes. prob because where I live those really nice scenes for wide angles just don't exist. so punching in really close and getting really cool angles is what I do.
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>>4032094
Not weird at all I also use long lenses for landscapes. I don't like carrying long and heavy lenses though. Why not a used Z7? Are they cheaper now? Used DSLR prices and lenses are low right now in contrast.
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>>4032096
I'll look into it, it's just when the Z7 came out I heard a ton of negative things about it, whereas I heard the Z7ii didn't. its been a while since I looked at it though, so many I'll do a bit more research again
but, thinking that I can get a decent % of the money I spent on my lenses back, I am still kinda considering the A7R IV
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>>4032099
well they hated the single card slot which you probably won't mind unless you shoot events. I don't even use the second card slot on my Nikon
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Any recs for a nice but budget travel hybrid camera?
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>>4032120
Technically speaking, it's Tamron who is running the show, not Sony.

Also
>Pannasonic in charge of anything
Leica is the boss of L-mount.
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I think Sony has unlocked some new technique with optics that allows them to shrink their zooms.

This recent example wher their 70-350mm is physically shorter than Fujifilm's 70-300.
A few weeks ago we also found out their 24-70 F2,8 GM ii is smaller than everybody else's 24-70 F2,8.
And a few months ago we found out their infernally zoom 16-35 F4 is smaller than their previous external zoom 16-35 F4.

These 3 cases can't be a coincidence.
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guys i can get an A7II for 1500aud (about 1050usd), brand new from a shop with like new old stock or something. What you think?

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>>4032198
From my understanding, the autofocus was fairly subpar until the a7iii
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>>4032198
It's not as good as the other Sonys.

The others just feel more responsive, and makes the job easier.
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>>4032120
Move Nikon to Fujifilm and vice versa.
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Nikon 180mm f/2.8 AF or Nikon 80-200mm f/2.8 AF?
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>>4032120
>sony is the most powerful wizard in the world
Sonychads, we win again. Filthy mudbloods.
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>>4032201
>>4032203
Thank you for the input guys. I think Ill wait til mid year sales or later in the year and see if the A7III goes on discount
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>>4032208
>thinking mirrorless is the whole picture
Nikon still outsells Fuji in the total interchangeable lens market and holds dominance in the professional field, particularly in sports and wildlife. Nikons mirrorless market share will continue to grow over the next decade as dslr is still relevant for certain professional genres and there are committed loyalists with big lens collections who will bump up nikons numbers in mirrorless as these pros slowly transition (to being the opposite gender).
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>>4032208
Nikon is still in the upper league while Fujifilm is struggling with its optics.
Their 70-300 is literally lager than the Sony 70-350. And significantly blurrier despite being larger.
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>>4032213
>>4032215
I'm thinking of the company itself. Like Nikon is struggling for the past years and Fujifilm is earning tons of money due to instax etc. But yeah I get your point Panasonic won't shut down any time soon. Still fuck Fujifilm for discontinuing 35mm films.
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>>4032211
>mid year sales
Is this a thing with camera brands? I'm in the market for a new upgrade but only ever bought used, could wait a couple weeks/months for a sale.
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I want to consooom and buy another efm lens but which one
Got 32mm and kitlens
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Anyone have any experience with the Viltrox 56mm f/1.4? Looks to be a great budget prime, but I've seen quite a few reviews on Amazon saying the thing has just flat out died after a couple months of use.
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>>4032290
I don't believe in that type of reviews.

The aperture ring is very nice especially for cameras that don't have front dial.
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any good travel tripods? maybe a small one?
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>>4032276
isnt EFM a dead mount? apsc R7 and R10 cameras are cooming
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>>4032388
the one you have with you, or the peak design travel tripod (carbon fiber)
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>>4032401
yeah you see i dont have a tripod right now so thats why i ask.. whatever one i buy is the one ill have
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>>4030889
Any update on the 300mm?
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>>4032429
Will pick it up this afternoon. From what I've seen in reviews it should be stellar, optically. What do you need to know?
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>>4032394
Well yeah but i dont know if im going to buy an r camera any time soon and id keep my efm camera anyway.
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>>4032394
Canon why do you have to be full retard at every turn
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>>4032255
Well Im in aus and companies can claim it on tax or something I dont know. eofy sales are pretty good here generally.
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>>4032432
weight, autofocus speed, af noise during video, low light capability, LOCA, close focusing, handheld capable .

good luck anon
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>>4032502
Makes sense thanks, your post wasn't the first I've seen recently mentioning it regarding to cameras so thought there was something more to it.
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Please for the love of god a X100 with fixed 50mm equivalent lens
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So now I'm thinking between the Z7ii and A7R IV
>Z7ii for inbuilt focus stacking (which I do currently manually pretty often)
>A7R IV for its 61mp vs 45mp (nice for cropping or just general detail) + it has pixel shift shit
Uses:
>60% lanscape
>20% architecture
>10% birds (currently using the D750, and here the af is just horrid for me, searching, slow, etc)
>10% street (eye af can be helpful here too)

also:
for the Z7ii I have lenses already from my D750 that I can convert
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>>4032649
If it's not urgent I'd just wait a couple months, the next gen of both of those should be announced sooner than later, could get a sweet used deal on current gen.
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>>4032774
do you think it will be announced this year? too often do I wait and wait, and years pass.
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>>4032388
>>4032401
>>4032405
Take a look at Sirui ST-125 or ST-124 (125 has one more knob, but is shorter), they have a compact one made of carbon fiber + a ball head for 340 bucks. Their extension rod is shaped triangular, making it nearly as thin as the peak design one while being more stable. I really like it.
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>>4032805
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>>4032784
Thom Hogan seems to expect z6/7 iii announcement for later this year and he does have some industry connections so it's not entirely baseless.
On sony side they have a fast pace release schedule and there's already a7rv spec rumours around.
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>>4032509
>weight
heavy but manageable, certainly not a lens to carry around all day
>af speed
slow, probably won't be good enough to track subjects in movement like kids or animals, but I'm only going to use it for still subjects so whatever
>af noise during video
forget it, this uses the old screw motor and whirrs too much
>low light
unless you have a stabilized body or godly technique, wouldn't recommend. I was shooting a bit yday from the balcony on a cloudy afternoon and was having a hard time getting sharp shots even at f/4 without bumping the ISO, will need to work on it
>loca
apparently it's a problem with high contrast subjects, but I haven't really seen any so far, just be mindful of your subject and composition I guess. I doubt it will be worse than the 180/2.8, that thing was ridiculously prone to it on digital
>close focusing
2.5m min focus, forget it. I hear it's decent with extension rings or if you pop in a raynox close focus filter, will try it one day that I'm not super depressed and actually want to leave the house
>handheld
doable, but good technique is required

all in all not bad for less than 250€, will keep testing and will post some shots at some point
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>>4033030
Quick album with some photos from yesterday, you can see some green/magenta fringing in there at 1:1 if you're paying attention, but not a deal breaker for me at least
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pls help me im getting really interested in cameras. Like I cant stop thinking about lenses and I frame photos in my mind everywhere I go. Its too interesting.





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