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Is it possible to achieve good photography with a 100€ camera? If so, what is a good choice?
t. poorfag in search of a new hobby
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>>4021985
>Is it possible to achieve good photography with a 100€ camera?
yes
>If so, what is a good choice?
the one you have with you
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>>4021986
I have none. I want to buy a new camera as I have 100 bucks to spare and am holding myself back from wasting them on vidya. (phones don't count pls)
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€100 is really little but yeah you can take an award winning photograph on pretty much any interchangeable lens camera released after 2011 or so.
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>>4021985
your phone has a better sensor than anything you could get for that price, that's just not a realistic price range for interchangeable lens cameras and compacts have been dead for so long smartphones have long surpassed their capabilities. you could buy used analog cameras for that price but film costs a fucking shitton expecially these days
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>>4021985
It is possible if it is a film camera
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>>4021988
I'd honestly practice with a phone while saving up the cash. If anything you can practice composition on a phone.
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>>4021985
Plenty of cheap digital (and film) compacts out there. Maybe a Canon PowerShot G5 - probably more camera than most people need.
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>>4021985
>Is it possible
yes
>what is a good choice
This is probably my favorite photo I ever took with my PowerShot S90. I think that camera is one good choice. The PowerShot line in general.

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>>4021985
start with your phone (dng files) or buy a used eos rebel t5i + cracked lightroom.
there is no more depreciation so if you don't like it you can sell the camera again without a loss.
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>>4021991
Simply not true
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You have multiple choices
Canon EOS 40D, 550D and upwards
Samsung NX cameras (good aps-c sensor)
Sony NEX series of cameras
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>>4021999
The S90 is real underrated. You can do serious damage with one of those.
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>>4021999
solid kino
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>>4021999
What mode do you shoot in? I got a S90 and my shots are blurry and the focus is all over the place.
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>>4022153
This was a trip to Greece 9 years ago, way before I actually got into photography. All full auto. I never had any focusing issues with this camera.
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>>4022153
>>4022221
I've heard Canon had quality control issues on the later S-series PowerShots so that may have been the case.
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>>4021988
K1000
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don't get a phone camera the focal length sucks
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>>4021985
Get an Ilford B&W HP5 Disposable Film Camera or some other colour disposable film camera.

All in you are looking at less than $40 including the price of the camera, shipping, getting the film developed / scanned etc.

And you know what, $40 may seem like a lot for 27 or so photos but at the end of the day you will be able to keep physical copies of your photos via the film strip and won't be stuck with some shit $100 digital camera that no one will want to buy from you. Plus if you find you are not into it, no worries, you use the camera and throw it away.
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>>4025404
Getting the film developed is pretty expensive, places around me charge about $30 to develop b&w.
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>>4025404
>It's a disposable camera so I must throw it away
Just extract the roll yourself and keep the camera.
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>>4025416
you can get a bnw dev kit for 50 dollars
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>>4021985
100 is very low to be starting out.
With 100 i'd say save up for a better phone with a nice camera in it instead of going compact route, modern phones make better images than older compacts.
t - got an iphone 13 recently and it's images are surprisingly decent. it's no match for my X-T4, but damn if it doesn't take some photography knowledge to see differences and a large screen or big print, most casuals won't even notice anymore I guess.
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>>4021985
Yes.
https://clarkvision.com/articles/does.gear.matter/

TL;DR: it depends on what exactly you want to shoot
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>>4021985
Just use your phone. Your photos will have the phone photo look but you just have to accept it and focus on taking interesting photos which is the hard part anyway no matter how perfect your gear is.
Just keep on it and get a 2nd hand crop camera kit from last 10 years when you can afford it.
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>>4021985
9 year old 20MP Sony cybershots btfo everything else in terms of price:performance. I got pic related for 68usd
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>>4027938
>modern phones make better images than older compacts
lol pic related is ken rockwells nonsense iphone 12 pro flagship complete dogshit phone
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>>4021994
Maybe the camera are cheap but not films
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>>4029353
they really are awesome cameras, I would have got one if I didn't want interchangeable lenses
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>>4029353
>1/2.3" sensor
eeeeh, i'd rather get a RX100 mk1
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>>4025416
Film lab developing is expensive, true. But saying that, $30 is a ripoff. Here are the prices for Carmencita film Lab, one of the best film labs in Europe.
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>>4027932
>you can get a bnw dev kit for 50 dollars.

Good idea although in reality a basic film development kit is going to cost you $100 and a basic film scanner is going to cost you at least $150. So $250 total. If you want to get photos that are similar in quality to lab scans then you need to spend more on a scanner so think at least $500 total investment. At $500 you are better off giving your film to a lab until you reach the point where you are shooting more than 10 135 rolls a month.
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>>4029372
Not 100€ and sensor doesn't matter if he's going to showcase images at 1080px long, he only needs to check if the denoising inside the camera is good or not.
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>>4029625
>Not 100€
can be found lower than that, i found mine in shit shape for 80€

also its going to be the same denoising since its same era sony
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>>4029623
A Patterson is $30, tf-5 is $15, liquid developers run around $10 but you can splurge on hc110 for $35 if you want and get as many uses as rodinal with slightly less grain. The scanner is the problem but a used v600 is $189 all day on eBay.
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>>4021985
is that sam hyde? what the fuck
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>>4021985
>If so, what is a good choice?
Get a used one. Some entry level DSLR if you are lucky, or some compact, like the other anons suggested.
Don't start with fucking film, 100€ will get you a few rolls at most. Probably like one as you have to get the camera to.
Especially don't save up and buy a fucking flagship phone for twice the price of a good camera setup, like that retard iPhone 13 anon suggested.
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This is my favourite photo from years ago on entry level Sony A230 & kit lens. They go for ~£100.
I’ve been thinking of selling it but they have great compatibility with older lenses.

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>>4029354
pic rel is as well
the problem is not the camera but ken
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>>4021995
you can't really learn about how light works with a phone because it's all auto. OP should buy a cheap second hand dslr on ebay or alternative site (literally any old crappy dslr with a basic lens) to learn the basics of composition, light etc.
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>>4021988
go on KEH and look at their DSLRs. Sort by price ascending and find something for 50~ bucks then go find a lens for that mount for ~50 bucks and start taking pictures.
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>>4021991
>compacts have been dead

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My Kodak EasyShare Z1015is took dexeng pictures and it costs like $15 on ebay
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>>4037599
Oregon trail
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>>4037602
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>>4021999
That do look sick tho
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>>4037599
Damn
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>>4029353
Thanks anon. I have an old sony camera that has a constant battery discharge/fail to recharge problem, so this looks like a decent replacement.`
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>>4036593
that's not true. Some android phones have manual modes built in to default camera app. If yours doesnt install a different camera app from the store. $100 doesnt get you very much camera, better off practicing with what you have (and that's on you all the time) while you save some money.
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>>4021985
100%. You can get a d40 used for $35-40 and a 50mm 1.8 for about 60-70 if you get a little lucky. Or you can git it with the kit lens for $90ish. Def enough to get started
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>>4038109
>aperture is fixed
>focal distance is fixed
doesn't really let you learn if you can't even change basic settings which affect light.
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>>4038595
most photographers from the 1900s started with box cameras that had fixed focus, fixed focal length, fixed aperture and fixed shutter speed.
this is just cope, if you can't frame a good picture no setting combination is going to save you
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>>4038595
better to try out framing and getting an eye for subjects and photography in general on the device you already have rather than spending $100 on a camera you only use for a week.
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>>4021999
checked greek or just tourist?
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>>4021985
https://m.youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=videos+on+how+to+make+money

Here money to be made with your camera
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>>4029623
my flatbed was $20 on craigslist



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