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>start to get interested in artsy erotic photography
>a massive amount of the shooting is just cheap-looking coomer material or essentially a gateway for the models to become camwhores
>do some research by checking the locations, the big studios in the city, and the social connections
>the average model who wants a cute shoot is 2 handshakes away from a literal hardcore pornography casting

wtf bros, how do I avoid this is my career? Looks like every moderately successful model or photographer knows someone who does porn, or knows someone who knows.
Does it even makes sense to try and isolate yourself from the types?

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No
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Times are tough, and OF is more consistent work than the 55-year-old “fine art photography” coomers who usually try to rape models during shoots. You’re building walls in your head that nobody else cares about.
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>>4011794
>55-year-old “fine art photography” coomers who usually try to rape models during shoots.

This is really the only problem
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sounds like you could corner the market for soft core only photos
but as you say one thing leads to another
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>erotic is 2 handshakes away from hardcore pornography
That's how it always has been :^)
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>>4011775
>artsy erotic photography
You mean porn with shadows

>>4011796
As opposed to 25-year-old “fine art photography” coomers who usually try to rape models during shoots.
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artists have hired sex workers as models for centuries
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>>4011775
there is nothing artistic about this. just admit you wanna make softcore porn because that's what it is
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>>4011775
Do you by chance know a lot of Jewish people running these businesses?
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>>4011775
What difference does it make to your photos if they have done porn or not?

Better you get some whore to do it and know that whatever you do with her is a nice days job compared to what shes used to rather than taking a nice semi innocent girl and making her get naked for money
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>>4011907
you boys have some wild ideas about women
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>>4011775
You're like an aspiring guitarist complaining that every other musician is doing drugs and one signature away from "selling out", that the managers are greedy fucks and that the only work you can get is playing shitty gigs in bars. Why the hell would any model good and/or famous enough to get "straight" nude modeling gigs ever fuck around with a literally who like you instead of someone with an actual body of work, their own studio and probably a degree? If you really want to make this your line of work then suck it up and take what jobs you can get building portfolios for camwhores while you learn how to take good nudez should the opportunity for you to break through present itself.
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OP ask yourself why do the models do the shoots?

The absolute majority do it for money. They will follow the money. Your personal taste in art nudes clearly does not align with where the money is.

So you face a choice, sellout or be a niche photographer.

Also Onlyfans is an absolute unstoppable freight train that changed art nudes forever. The women is what really sells (not the photography) and now they can cut out the middle man and just self shoot and make big money.

The top girls are literally making millions on there and all the other girls see that and try to replicate it.

Also art nudes is a very tired genre, as mentioned a naked women with some arty shadows on her is incredibly generic and done a million times before and nobody cares. Also a women in some weird pose in a landscape in black and white is also really overdone and boring. And finally, any level of nudity that can be shown on instagram is beyond dead as 95 million photos are put on there for free everyday.

Im summary, you are trying to do something that almost nobody wants, this is the source of your problems.

Dont believe me look at this magazine which seems to be exactly what you want to do.
https://pmagazine.co/
Then look how unsuccesful it is on social media and how nobody cares. The standard of photography on that magazine is really high and so is the standard of the models.

Personally, I am hoping for a comeback soon in art nude photography as all the onlyfans stuff starts to look the same as its mainly a girl in her bedroom with some led lights or in her shower. Maybe sooner or later it will trend to hire a photographer and shoot something nicer and we will enter a new golden age of shooting nudes for photographers.
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>>4011973
>literally
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>>4011775
>As opposed to 25-year-old “fine art photography” coomers who usually try to rape models during shoots.

why would you care if it pays? Sell time, make money, live your life.

Or are you the saviour of civilization?
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>>4011775
>The industry is so corrupted
Which industry isn't? Capitalism HO!
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>>4011863
This
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>>4011863
>>4011907
You guys srsly can't try and think why someone doesn't want to deal with "sex workers"?
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>>4012057
No, tell us.
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>>4012044
t. communist who ignores every commissar in socialist factories steals and resells in black market
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>>4011911
If you think there is something off about my post its much more likely that it is you that have misinformed ideas of women
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>>4012057
Aids?
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>>4012057
>deal with
With the way you talk, who’d want to deal with you?
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>>4012070
>>4012128
"Sex worker" internet defence force, please go
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>>4012359
So you don't know either.
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>>4011775
>wtf bros, how do I avoid this is my career?
Long lenses, keep your distance and use telephotos to create a unique look. Think a well-done naked lady portrait done with a 500mm f/4
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I’m going to just post some input for the thread. If you want to take some art nudes then start meeting more girls. The real problem with this thread and it’s fairly obvious on this entire board is that most posters here really aren’t that social. Their views on the world are almost from a spectator point of view and so their advice is tailored to a recluse. Women will do whatever you want if they like you.
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>>4012495

>The real problem with this thread and it’s fairly obvious on this entire board is that most posters here really aren’t that social.

>Their views on the world are almost from a spectator point of view and so their advice is tailored to a recluse.

>Women will do whatever you want if they like you.

Pretty big on blanket statements.

Totally lacking in explanations or evidence.
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>>4011859
THIS
/thread
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>>4011863
nothing wrong with that!
all models need to be tamed because deep down they are just female dogs!
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>>4012526
consider a change of hobby and/or occupation
maybe something involving heavy machinery
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>>4012522
He's right, incel.
People in general will do things for you if they like you. That's how people work.
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>>4011775
Yeah that's what happens when you let kikes run your country.
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>>4012532
I prefer fucking models thank you very much
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>>4012608
>incel

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>>4012638
t. sex non-haver
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>>4012522
You will never have a women who cares for you
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>>4012658
females are born sluts who need to be locked down

bitches need to be taught how to love and obey,
never forget that, faggot!

>>4012612
the only smart anon in this thread!
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>>4011775
>rotic photography
>>a massive amount of the shooting is just cheap-looking coomer material or essentially a gateway for the models to become camwhores
>>do some research by checking the locations, the big studios in the city, and the social connections
>>the average model who wants a cute shoot is 2 handshakes away from a literal hardcore pornography casting
>wtf bros, how do I avoid this is my career? Looks like every moderately successful model or photographer knows someone who does porn, or knows someone who knows.
>Does it even makes sense to try and isolate yourself from the types?
stop being a baby
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>>4012670
You will always be alone
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>>4012670
you’re 17 and never had a girlfriend
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>>4011860
>As opposed to 25-year-old “fine art photography” coomers who usually try to rape models during shoots.
I've only started photography recently, mostly events and street stuff but this is one of the things I see people say about photographers all over the net.
I never realized it was that huge of a problem.
It kinda makes me more self-aware when I shoot now because I don't wanna get lumped in with that stereotype.
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>>4011775
Terry Richardson fucked up the world... everything now is porno-chic’...
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I don't consider photos of nude women art
I like looking at them but man it's just a hot girl there's nothing artsy about it
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>>4014024
>I never realized it was that huge of a problem.
Any given model you talk to has had experiences with a photographer being inappropriate during a shoot or being weird over text or outright assaulting them. It’s a universal problem
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>>4013996
You will always be a beta onions trans cuck!
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>>4014000
you're a boomer and only got 1 ex-wife who cucked you with BBC
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>>4013996
>>4014000

FOUND THE SJeW S()Y-TURDS
do the world a solid and just neck
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>>4014042
I take back what I said. You’re a 14-year-old
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>>4012007
>look at this magazine which seems to be exactly what you want to do.
>https://pmagazine.co/
Like really? I don't see a connenction (other than nude woman) between the OP image and the images on the pmagazine.
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>>4011775
>>a massive amount of the shooting is just cheap-looking coomer material or essentially a gateway for the models to become camwhores
ok so why don't you use your artistic ability to actually take photos that you personally enjoy and stand out from the rest?
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Mass Clothing companies literally used porn stars for ads and you complain for erotic photo some of them are using sex workers...

https://sci-hub.se/https://doi.org/10.1386/ffc.1.2.203_1

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>>4014257
I remember the mindshift where people all of sudden started to dgaf to like/follow their favorite pornstars on facebook/social media publicly.
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>>4012369
Lmao
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>>4011863
Lots of classic painter used nobels servants to pose or even a few wives.
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name of the model in the OP pic?
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>>4015328
cara delevingne
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>>4011775
OP how'd you get started with artsy erotic photography? Just messaging local models?
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>>4015957
build a portfolio shooting clothed stuff for models’ own portfolios and gradually work into nude shoots with experienced models
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>>4015959
Do you have an example of the clothed stuff? Is it in a studio or just outdoors?
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>>4015961
Picrel from google. Studio or outdoors, it doesn’t matter, but you should shoot things that interest you and find your personal aesthetic in the meantime.
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>>4015982
I just shoot street and (formerly) erotic. Didn't get to do much on the erotic side cause my ex was paranoid about those type of photos. Didn't make much sense cause she'd dress like a slut for concerts. Anyway that's my blog post. I'm thinking about getting a x100v.
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ITT:

AMERICAN APPAREL
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>>4012007
Things happen outside of social media, Actually all of the best things do.
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>>4012612

>fucking models
>not GF'ing them

git gud m80

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>>4014034
>It’s a universal problem
Women also tend to exaggerate, especially good looking ones likely to be believed
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>>4018381
t. got called out for being inappropriate
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>>4018387
nah all females are lying dogs!
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>>4014042
Nothing more Jewish than trying to make you give up on (white) women.
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>>4011775
try flicker
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>>4011775
What do you care?
Shoot your artistic nude or for the artistic nature of it. And if the girl turns into a pornstar, that's entirely her own choice
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>>4014026
>Terry Richardson fucked up the world... everything now is porno-chic’...

don't blame Uncle...hate the critics!
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>>4011885

Yup. Erotic photography is so fucking cringe. It's coomer material that tries to be "above that" and high class because no bro, it's about the artistic ideals, and the concepts of beauty, and all that! Just shoot porn or move on.
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>>4019426
I blame the jews because all of them are involved
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>>4011775

OP you seem very confused. Why do people do porn, escort work or make art nudes?

To make money...

You want to know something that will shock you. Alot of art nude models do escort work on the side under a totally different name. Escorts can easily make 6 figure income per year, art nude models barely make enough to survive. Art nude models are often travelling, have the look that will sell in adult work, have images of them nude, and need money. They pretty much fit perfectly into the adult industries.

I came across one of the art nude models I shot who acted all innocent pretending she was just studying for a degree on an escort site. Makes sense, why would she bother telling me a photographer she works on the side as an escort. She is just a young girl making the most possible money from her youth and beauty across multiple channels.

Also another art nude model I was planning to shoot actually went into hardcore porn instead of art nudes a few months before I was going to message her. So for the guys who had shot her in the few years she was an art nude model now had a hardcore porn star in their port. Probably half of them wouldnt know either unless they keep an eye on every hardcore porn scene.

In summary, their is no isolation. You are dealing with girls who get nude for money (they are less bound by the rules of society than most people). They also have massive financial incentives to move into adult work. At any point, any model you have shot could transition into adult work. It really doesn't matter. Unless they make it into the top 100 pornstars in the world, nobody will recognise the girl in your port is also a pornstar. (except maybe a few browsers of /s lol).

Also I find the girls who shoot art nudes nicer and more interesting to deal with than thots. The girl who does an art nude usually has some personality and interests in life outside shopping and instagram and her ego.
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>>4011775

https://archive.wakarimasen.moe/p/thread/4020622/#4020646
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>>4011775
you ever think about taking thots to church with you?
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>>4011775

>page44
http://www.amaste.com/amaste/etece/etece/ETECE03.pdf
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>>4011775
I honestly think this is a big issue.
However, I work with models and do somewhat saucy feeling work. I never do nude or erotic work but my work often looks or feels more erotic than it is. I'm also anti-porn.
From my perspective its about concentrating on your own work and just doing the work. Don't be mates with models, don't be over friendly, don't bullshit them and don't creep on them. Just tell them what you want to do and go out and do that. Fuck the whole industry. The industry doesn't really matter at all. You carve out your own way rather than relying on systems that already exist.
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>>4021422
>Just tell them what you want to do and go out and do that. Fuck

FTFY
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>>4012608
Increases likelihood but everyone has limits. They also have a price
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>>4012007
damn I wish I were rich enough to buy that mag it looks really nice
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>>4012007
>https://pmagazine.co/
1 of the best years ago
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>>4011775
just ask the model to the prom?
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>>4012007
>OP ask yourself why do the models do the shoots?
>The absolute majority do it for money. They will follow the money. Your personal taste in art nudes clearly does not align with where the money is.
>So you face a choice, sellout or be a niche photographer.
>Also Onlyfans is an absolute unstoppable freight train that changed art nudes forever. The women is what really sells (not the photography) and now they can cut out the middle man and just self shoot and make big money.
>The top girls are literally making millions on there and all the other girls see that and try to replicate it.
>Also art nudes is a very tired genre, as mentioned a naked women with some arty shadows on her is incredibly generic and done a million times before and nobody cares. Also a women in some weird pose in a landscape in black and white is also really overdone and boring. And finally, any level of nudity that can be shown on instagram is beyond dead as 95 million photos are put on there for free everyday.
>Im summary, you are trying to do something that almost nobody wants, this is the source of your problems.
>Dont believe me look at this magazine which seems to be exactly what you want to do.
>https://pmagazine.co/
>Then look how unsuccesful it is on social media and how nobody cares. The standard of photography on that magazine is really high and so is the standard of the models.
>Personally, I am hoping for a comeback soon in art nude photography as all the onlyfans stuff starts to look the same as its mainly a girl in her bedroom with some led lights or in her shower. Maybe sooner or later it will trend to hire a photographer and shoot something nicer and we will enter a new golden age of shooting nudes for photographers.
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\ >>>/b/877183019 /
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>>4011786
NOT THIS
/thread
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https://archive.wakarimasen.moe/p/thread/4024145/#4024145

k3k!
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>>4017285
name your body count
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>>4023218
>The top girls are literally making millions on there and all the other girls see that and try to replicate it.
Yeah but most girls can’t make any money doing it. The problem with only fans is only the best make millions and everyone else fights over scraps.
While the internet means everyone who wants to can buy photos of belle delphine not everyone who wants to photograph her can. Even if she posed for random photographers and charged an affordable rate she couldn’t possibly come close to satisfying the demand because there are only so many hours in a day. She can’t model for all photographers at once.
This is where local models can compete with belle Delphine, although they will always lose out on their only fans they can pose for photographers that cant get belle Delphine and make their money that way.
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https://www.graftdigital.com/portfolio/pour_la_victoire-terry-richardson/
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>>4011775
I have this feeling that OP is still young and idealistic. But as he grow older and bitter he too will join those "old men trying to bang the model after photoshoot" group.
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>>4019445
naked =/= erotic
if you think that, you are a coomer
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That platonic ideal of beauty will never be achieved, just relax and do you best with what is at hand. If you're not enjoying your art, you're doing it wrong.
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>>4011775
>He doesn't know that giantess fetish photography with macro lenses is about to take the world by storm
You heard it here first
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>>4011860
>You mean porn with shadows
nailed it, its always shadows, severe lighting, and sandy/shiny skin textures
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>>4011860
this coomer photog based near me has been banned from all the coffee shops for editing his "artsy nudes" in full view of customers
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sweet ass op
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>>4012369
Be sure to learn how to Photoshop out window frames beforehand.

lmao
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>>4028082
lel
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>>4011775
>>do some research by checking the locations, the big studios in the city, and the social connections
>>the average model who wants a cute shoot is 2 handshakes away from a literal hardcore pornography casting
how do you know this, can you elaborate more
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>>4012007
>The women is what really sells (not the photography) and now they can cut out the middle man and just self shoot and make big money.
except only 1% of them make any money
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>>4019481
so all those 8/10 models who do nudes are actual sex workers? how does one find them to pay for sex. all the escorts on escort sites are like 3/10s compared to those models
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>>4021328
>2005
the world was so much better back then
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>>4021422
>Don't be mates with models, don't be over friendly, don't bullshit them and don't creep on them. Just tell them what you want to do and go out and do that.
but why not befriend them and date them?
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>>4025660
>join those "old men trying to bang the model after photoshoot" group.
and what's wrong with that as long as it's after a shoot and everyone is consenting
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>>4011775
who is this slut
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Been doing shoots in Toronto for about 6 years now. Usually the decent normal chicks get talked into do webcam pron or OF by a friend who keeps convincing them.

Seen a few chicks lose good jobs cause it got out they had an OF account.

Used to know this church girl who was charging $3 per close up spread shots on OF.

A lot of these girls are bi-polar or have some sort of issue. If you see them on instagram stories ranting and raving about dumb shit, best to avoid those types. They will invent some random shit and try to metoo you for clout. Same thing if I see them have stories and put down other photographers, can't trust that they won't flip out one day.

We had a few who was shooting OF/Amateur Pron and when photographers worked with another girl they had beef with, would try to get the photographer dragged in the middle of it to ruin their reputation.

Unless you want to deal with lies, twitter drama, and someone trying to throw you under the bus, avoid them.
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>>4029380
>Unless you want to deal with lies, twitter drama, and someone trying to throw you under the bus, avoid them.
but none of that matters really. if you work under a pen name or as a company why would any of that matter. I rarely see the top OF models doing this, seems to be with subpar models who don't have much of a fanbase who care about doing drama to increase views
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AFH:
What do you think of the Gonzo art/porn aesthetic of guys like Terry Richardson and Richard Kern?

CC:
I love Terry's work. It has a power and immediacy and connection that I think is about more than just being gonzo. Ditto Juergen Teller. I also like Terry's ability to transgress, and be rewarded by it. Shooting major ad campaigns and celebrities while publishing books by and about your penis is a lot more difficult than it looks, and anybody who can do it deserves credit. But I confess to getting quickly bored by one style of expression, in the case of these guys, the snapshot aesthetic. I wish I could do one thing over and over again, as it's much easier for the public to "get" what you're doing then, for good or ill. But I get too bored too fast, and as a result I like to experiment with all different sorts of modes. I rebel against familiar tools.

AFH:
Do you agree, as some people say, that this style is all about content and context? That "anyone in the studio for a Terry Richardson shoot could take a Terry Richardson photo"? Or is there more from a technical or aesthetic angle than often gets acknowledged?
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>>4029586

CC:
I think this kind of question opens a whole can of worms. In fact, many of Terry's shots are taken by his assistants, and other people on set. But I don't think this makes them any less "Terry's shots". It's his set, his ideas, his style of execution, the mood in the final edited photographs is in line with his "brand". So much of what makes a photographer's style is dependent on editing, and what that artist allows out in the world attached to his or her name. And there's a long history of photographer's assistants setting up lighting and cameras for their photographer, so I don't personally see this as a problem. Not to mention the long apprentice tradition in painting, dating back to the old masters. But even in modern times, taken to its extreme, you have whole factory production lines set up with anonymous workers, churning out branded images under artistic supervision. Warhol, Kostabi, Hirst, Koons. Are the resulting works any less theirs because they don't make them with their own hands? Photography especially is a machine-mediated art form, so we're already accustomed to the separation of artist from final work, this is just one more remove, but I think the provenance is still clear. In fact, it's that machine mediation I'm rebelling against with the Decay and Fugue State (splatter) pieces. I missed the direct connection I had to the final work when I was a painter, and wanted to reconnect with that.

AFH:
How does that rawer erotic sensibility apply to your highly polished style, which seems more in an Araki school?
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>>4029587

CC:
I'll accept your comparison to Araki as a great compliment, even though I didn't discover his work early enough to count him as an influence. But when I did see his body of work, and how voraciously he jumps around, and experiments with different techniques, and how he's still managed to maintain a unifying mind through it, an outlook that comes through no matter how he's presenting it, I was very encouraged about my own work. I had previously always harbored fears that my curiosity and variety were weaknesses. Araki showed me otherwise. And it looks like I'm well on course to have as much trouble with skittish publishers and censors as he had.

AFH:
Such as?

CC:
I've had many projects cause me problems. A magazine that published a retrospective of my work was forced by their distributor to put black censor dots over a few pages that were considered too graphic for distribution. I had two pieces included in the first edition of the high-end art collectible "The Playground", and two different printers refused to print the pieces due to explicitness, so the publishers wound up having to print them all by hand for inclusion. And after all that, Barneys refused to stock it due to the pieces. Luckily, Colette in Paris was less prudish. WWD wrote about the whole controversy, which greatly helped sales. Although on the other hand, I also know that I've lost out on big commercial jobs because of the raw sexuality of a lot of my personal work, so that controversy definitely cuts both ways. I find it amazing, really, how much power and polarization images of the naked human form can inspire. Perhaps that's partly why I'm so obsessed with it.
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>>4029588

AFH:
When and why did you begin burying prints?

CC:
I only began abusing, weathering, and burying prints in 2007, after the idea had been kicking around in in me since late 2005. At first it was just a cathartic reaction to what I had seen nature do to my family snapshots and belongings after Hurricane Katrina. So many of my childhood relics, and worse, my family's current belongings, were destroyed by the flooding, the rot, the mold. But in this destruction I kept finding myself fascinated by the grotesque beauty of it. Like a car accident, or the bodies of Pompeii. New Orleans is really a modern American Atlantis, after all. So this was just an attempt for me to bring under my own artistic control what had been an episode of complete chaos and destruction. Finding beauty in the shit. But as I started working with it I found other things about it to love. Like the fact that the resulting mold-ridden prints are very toxic. It's dangerous beauty, a siren call. Look too closely and it could kill you. Is the frame of the glass protecting the print, or the viewer? It appealed to my background in painting as well, as each piece is unique and unrepeatable, and that's something I find lovely. It also turns on its head the art-world emphasis on archival preservation. These images won't stop decaying once I seal them up. All things in life are transient, and more beautiful for it.

AFH:
How much control to you have over the end result?
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>>4029589

CC:
It forces me, as a control freak, to surrender. It's very random, and closer to painting or even farming than photography. It's excruciatingly slow. Just as digital technology speeds up photographic creation to being nearly instantaneous, the time it takes for me make each piece in this series is measured in months. After I started working on these I discovered that Stephen Gill had been something very similar, for different reasons and with different aesthetic results, in his "Buried" series, which I think was 2006 so. And Bill Morrison was doing something similar, and stunning, with his film 'Decasia' in 2002, which I discovered only in 2006.

AFH:
How different is your relationship with the uncontrollable aspects in your Fugue State (India ink splatter) series.

CC:
I'm still exploring what they mean to me, but the kernel right now, the cloud that they are forming in my imagination, is that they are both aspects of violence and injury, and my attempt to co-opt that, to contain it in the frame. Whereas the Decay series feels like feminine violence to me, subtle, creeping, slow and fluid, the Fugue State (ink splatter) series is more masculine. Attack, instant lashing out, leaving indelible injury. A moment of fury, leaving a scar as a testament.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWmAlUS7FxU
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>>4014257
Lol they also used to hire them instore, I remember seeing the cashier of one in the early 2010's in a porn flick like a week after I saw her.
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>>4030638
lel we need those times back
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>>4012670
YWNBAW
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hit dislike https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cQJS5zzHwY
and then shitpost here >>>/hc/2155835
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>>4012007
>Then look how unsuccesful it is on social media and how nobody cares
so you think that because they don't have a 500k dopamine fried zoomers scrolling past their posts on IG that they don't sell their $1100 books?
https://www.similarweb.com/website/pmagazine.co/#ranking
>59.5k visitors in April
>average 2 minutes per visit
>82days of surf-time on their website
I'm betting they do better than most IG and OF hoes and their models don't have the stigma of being an internet porn whore.
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>>4033381
>they don't have a 500k dopamine fried zoomers scrolling past their posts on IG
toplel
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take it as a challenge OP.
People like the story of turning a whore into a housewife (pretty woman)
Turn a porn actress into fine art
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>>4034437
>People like the story of turning a whore into a housewife (pretty woman)
>Turn a porn actress into fine art
couldn't agree more
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>>4029380
>talked into do webcam pron
>A lot of these girls are bi-polar or have some sort of issue

EVERYONE that does porn/sexwork/webcam has some sort of issue
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>>4035341
like schizophrenia???
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>>4012670
>females are born sluts who need to be locked down

>bitches need to be taught how to love and obey,
>never forget that, faggot!

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>>4025775
If majority of male population can coom to it, it's erotic. Almost all naked pictures of non-overweight women fit that category.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/234568952127

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rolling >>>/b/879518940 live.....
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>>4037439
that is not even what an incel would look like???
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>>4012670
eastern europium ?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV8MnGpn6v0
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>>4028590
That's not what your interaction is with them. It's getting a job done not not fishing for pussy.
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>>4043018
it's cool that you posted a rotoscoped animation of your face, but I don't know what that has to do with the thread
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basically, jannies have their panties in a bunch over this https://archive.alice.al/p/thread/4040468/#4041402
post?
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>>4011775
There's no such thing as artsy eros.
You're just a coomer in denial.
Remember this when you'll be taking pictures of underages in some forsake country for your "art" project.
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>>4014039
>>4014042
Rustled foreveralones
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>>4043029
you're a fucking retard. i'm demonstrating how your precious incel face is in fact a jewish kike, just like you!
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https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/169389016/#169389567 K3K
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>>4043151
>jewish kike
that's redundant, anon

Maybe if you had jewish ancestry and a higher verbal IQ, you wouldn't post such ridiculous sentences.
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>>4043240
Even when being subtle you betray your snake origins, although that other fella was indeed silly redundant
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>>4011775
>erotic photog thread
>not a single coom worthy pic
Waste of space
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>>4043281
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/168474959/#168474959

https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/168477601/#168477601

https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/167217649/#167224735
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>>4011775
wow, you really don't see these for sale every day https://www.ebay.com/itm/165531285481
should fetch alot..
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>>4043247
you can have these
you seem to have run out
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We know that most women getting into 'erotic photography' are whore, but what about straight/bi men? I've seen attractive guys I see on tiktok end up putting onlyfans links in their bios. Is it possible to convince an attractive normie guy to get nude in front of a camera? Pic rel is a book about a Patrick Bateman-esque woman who convinces normie men to do near-pornographic shoots because she's pretty

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>>4024641
a million-billion.
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>>4045357
sally sturges?
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>>4024641
Clement
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>>4011775
Why care? Get them young and early in their career, make your shoots and don't be a cunt.
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>>4045357
I would love to be the subject for something like this but I have no friends
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>>4011775

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47b0mMzV880
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>>4043411
what the fuck man...i'm not ready for info like this
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>have artistic nudes of ex
>show them to a friend privately
>"hey, these are pretty good"
>live in a woke metropolis where my rep as a photographer is fragile and vulnerable to attack
>can't post them anywhere because it's illegal to do so without consent in my country, as they are considered "revenge porn"
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>>4050779
twf?
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>>4050779
>as they are considered "revenge porn"
rightfully so
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>>4050838
Would it count if the motivation for posting them wasn't revenge though?
Like if he put them up as an exhibit or something.
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>>4050927
This is what I mean. I think I'd like to include them in a presentation of the body of my work, because I genuinely like them, but there's no way she'd ever sign off on it. I miss the old days when I could've done it regardless. They're not graphic, you can't see the vulva because of her bush, and the poses aren't sexualizing.
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>>4050980
Serves you for living in a homo town
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>>4050980

Jesus what a whining little bitch you are. Take new photos and respect people. And obviously younare even too pussy to ask her. You are truly oathetic. Old day... Like you know shit about the old days.
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>>4051002
>respect people
I like how libtards would sell their souls to make golden showers lie about trump true and spread such pictures. But showing pictures taken with consent (I presume) is a no no because relationship ended. Reminds me of feminist "I can withdraw concent next day if I want to!" logic.
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>>4051182

Are you a moron? That's a rethorical question. Btw. I'm not even from the us, but what ever. This is a quote from the post I was replying to: "there's no way she'd ever sign off on it. I miss the old days when I could've done it regardless." It is very obvious he doesn't have a permission to publish the photos. Should have gotten a permission so he could publish them. Didn't and now whines like bitch instead of just taking new photos of a model who doesn't mind him showing the photos.
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>>4051002
>respect indignant cunts who will use any opportunity to get back at you, as if women aren't irrational dogs
I'm pathetic, right. Maybe stop worshiping pussy, .
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>>4024670
If the model isn't great you won't sell no matter how you photograph her. OF coomers get attached to the female, that's basically your market.
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>photoGRAPHY
>pornoGRAPHY
woah... what did they mean by this
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>>4051317

You misunderstand. I have no respect for pussies like you. I respect people.
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>>4011775
>adult people who want to be paid for their looks do jobs that pay them for their looks?

Outrageous!
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Cfly3hYjw6t/
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https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.starer.ru/images/justin-timberlake/terry-richardson/*
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>>4011775
Erotica is just tasteful pornography, pornography is just vulgar erotica.
They were always part of the same coin. They distanced, parted, joined and took inspiration from each other seemingly based only by what constituted taste in each epoch. Regardless of this, it's curious to observe that these tastes have not diverged much. Stick to your norms, and you'll be able to shoot fine erotica with porn models, possibly even influence some with your work from the dark path.

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