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File: _DSC3012_DxO-Recovered.jpg (831 KB, 1024x1280)
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Let's post our black and whites here, and thoughts on processing.
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>>3975855
As you can probably tell I like deep and rich blacks in my deepest shadows. I don't think seeing it on screen does justice to what a print looks like.

This particular image I haven't printed yet, but I have a print of the OP image. I really enjoy it.

These conversions were made with photolab and silver efex. I like silverefex the best, but some of the "camera raw" black and white profiles in lightroom are good.
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>>3975864
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>>3975864
I never shoot in B&W since I like to "artificially" render film like portra 400, since I have not found a film camera I enjoy; but I threw this around as a test and it came okay. Snapshit quality with a jpeg and Snapseed.

I really enjoy a lot of these rich blacks and midtone greys, especially the one in the OP.

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>>3975903
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This one looks really great printed on baryta paper. Black and white makes the most wonderful prints.
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>>3975925
The following one I'm not as pleased with. I took a lot of pictures on this day
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This one would have been much better had the half-dome in the center been hit with light
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>>3975925
Really enjoy this one.

Still trying to figure out what makes a good B&W photo, and how to get results I like in photoshop. I usually just drop the saturation to 0 then play around with exposure, highlights, the blacks slider, and the whites slider in the raw editing window. I'm sure that's not the proper way though.

But fundamentally, what makes a good B&W image? Or what makes one bad?

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Here’s a shot from a drone
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>>3975943
Deep rich blacks, sufficient gray-tone separation and bright, but not blown highlights. It's important to show dark tones in order to show light tones
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Let's keep this thread going. Excited to see what people will post
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>>3976209
There are several issues here.
1. The image is completely posterized.
2. It's an image of a fuzzy subject
3. There are several dust spots on your sensor
4. You took it too far.

Happy with the sky on this one, but I feel it needs more brightness
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>>3975855
amazing :)
far from your stoic landscapes i have some daily images from my handy canon t70 fitted with delta400 shot at 1600iso with n+2 development. i have access to a b/w print lab now and a sinar 4x5 so maybe ill go on a hike with a polarizer+color filter and see how close i can get to your imagery when the time is right

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>>3976224

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>>3976224
Thank you! The fact that I used to do 8x10 black and white really has helped my black and white mindset. Here's an older 8x10 from 2013. I need to reprocess it, the sky is whack.
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>>3976226
I'd say this quick edit looks better
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>>3975855

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>>3975855

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>>3976227
looking good pic, but I see some vertical streaks. Botched rotary development?
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>>3976394
That might be, but it might also be the scanner I used. It wasnt mine and was not kept clean.
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>>3975855
Kys nigger-lovers
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>>3976409
Look at that, a perfectly fine thread with lots of images. Then the no-photo has to show up and sphew this shit
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>>3976434
It's opportune joke, if I say so myself.
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Napoli, southern Italy.

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>>3976601
The straws ruin it

>>3976694
A study of gestalt, but quite boring. Needs better tonal separation
>>3976736
Would have worked better if the camera was higher and didn’t include the road. This is akin to a sharp image of a fuzzy subject
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>>3976434
I kek'd at it

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>>3975925
Excellent
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>>3976736
i like how it gives a horizontal dimension i think there would be too much sky if i skipped it imo.
>>3976601
i agree lemme bw the non straw one and come back.
>>3976334
thoughts on?
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>>3976976
>>3977029
**
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>>3976736
>>3977029
It is way too bright and dominating. Would have walked across the road and shot from higher
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>>3977031
i have a few more ill post once i paint them gray
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>>3977031
>>3977033
maybe a mistake on the editing part ill try another version but i kind of wanted it to stand out since it's blured anyway and my focus naturally goes to the mountains but maybe it's a bit too distracting?
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>>3977034
Ask yourself this: what is the subject of the image? The mountains. Then why is there a cluttered foreground and a road drawing the eyes away from the mountain? Crop out the foreground and you’ll see what I mean
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Apologies for the white border. It's for Instagram purposes.

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First black and white roll dev'd at home, it's pancro 400

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>>3977042
>>3977043
Boring and emotionless
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>>3977057
says the nophoto
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>>3977061
What is this incessant need to dismiss critique just because I didn’t post a photo? I have posted several photos ITT. These two pictures are objectively boring. The last one is literally a photo of nothing.
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>>3977064
Quote the photos you posted. Let's see what YOU can do.
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>>3977064
Boring and emotionless isn’t a critique nophoto.
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>>3977068
I’m the OP. Does that satisfy your needs? You really need to learn to take critique even when there’s no photo following the critique.
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>>3977064
A dedicated troll that has been shitting up /p/ for months now. Just put him in the filter.
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>>3977057
Could you elaborate? This is the guy who posted the building.

Is it the tone? The composition? The subject? Just want to know for future reference.
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>>3977070
I consider your photos much, much more boring and emotionless than the ones you "critiqued". You're a retard, kill yourself, your photos are shit.
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>>3977084
Get a fucking life, you miserable faggot.
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Bump
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>>3977133
WHAT IS YOUR SUBJECT? REEEEE
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>>3977135

My subject is the city I live in.
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>>3977491
So you haven’t really thought about how you composed this image at all, have you
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>>3977988

I composed it for an oldtimer car that's not yet in the frame.
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>>3977991
This would have worked better if you had zoomed into the people or been closer to them. The backside of cars are generally not interesting at all.
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Not a gearfag thread? Gotta bump

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>>3978209
Nice composition

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>>3978509
This looks like literal hell
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Almost all of my b/w printing is darkroom enlargements. Digital prints, even from film scans, seem to be lacking something. Idk what, the contrast never looks right. I also really enjoy the process of developing film and prints.

Anything over 11x14 I print digitally since it's basically impossible to make a sharp darkroom print larger than that. The lens aren't sharp enough, it vinettes, etc. I generally print flatter, with mostly grey tones. I don't like deep blacks or pure whites in my print, unless the image demands it. I don't have any input on digital b/w conversions since I shoot b/w film if I want to shoot b/w. I don't convert color shots, film or digital. I also don't scan my b/w and I don't have any scans of my prints, but I do have some snap shots.
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>>3979571
Here some others in the series.
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>>3975855
>>3975864
>>3975925
i really enjoyed these
>>3975896
>>3976226
to me this is where black and white goes overboard, cuz we all know clouds don't really look like that. But the contrast and clarity on the mountains work (for me)

I'll post something similar myself but your mountains are definitely more spectacular;)

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>>3978891
same bro

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photos

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>>3979571
>Anything over 11x14 I print digitally since it's basically impossible to make a sharp darkroom print larger than that. The lens aren't sharp enough, it vinettes, etc.
I'm guessing any Ansel Adams-tier print means DIY enlarger and exotic lenses. What about getting paper for larger prints?

I've dabbled in film, but I haven't exactly been blown away with the results, so I'm back to digital. Not to mention I need to improve my basic skills or it's just too wasteful. But I'm intrigued by the corner of the film photography world that is still able to BTFO anything in the digital world. If I ever reach a skill level that warrants the process I'd like to get into large format and big darkroom prints.
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>>3980141
Its possible to buy darkroom paper in 42.5" x 33' rolls
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>>3980141
That's the secret of the greats. They all printed small. Stiechen, stiglitz, Adam, Weston, they all printed 2x enlargements or smaller. Weston even reduced the size, printing smaller than 8x10 (his format). Ilford makes paper up to 40" rolls, which require special wall mounted enlarger. For big darkroom prints, I'd drum scan 6x6 or 4x5 then make a digital negative, then contact print that.

Film essentially uses a random sample with high noise, where digital uses grid sample with low noise. Digital looks good until you hit a certain ppi, then it looks terrible. Film can be printed larger since there is more info, though the signal is weaker. This only applies to film vs digital of the same size. It's much easier to scale up the size of film, vs digital sensor. So it's not even a contest when comparing even the best "medium" format digital sensor to MF film. Sure the SNR is higher on digital, but the grain holds up better to enlargement.

For film, shoot slow film, I mostly use provia, ektar, and fp4. Provia or ektar in 35mm will go toe to toe with any full frame digital camera when printing, especially on large prints past the digitals 300ppi resolution limit.

4x5 is truly unmatched by basically any digital camera system. I make fine art prints of art for artists with slide film, I scan the slides at 5000 ppi, which is about the limit of the film. That's a whopping 500mp, and I could scan it up to 8000ppi on my unis drum scanner if I wanted to. I've been wanting to shoot a ultra slow film on 4x5 like rpx 25 or cms 20, but I'll have to get around to that.
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>>3975896
I really like this one.
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>>3980304
Wait, what, is that spiderman comic as a collage?
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>>3980971
The shadow on the foreground ruins it.
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>>3980974
That is too bad
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>>3980758
Yes this artist uses comic books all the time as collage.
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Trying my hand at making a utterly uninspiring photo a B&W dramascape.
Feels like cheating.

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>>3981203
the black thing on the bottom ruins it
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Took this during the riots in Atlanta last year
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Oops lol took this photo last year during the riots in Atlanta

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>>3981282
edgy and societal constructs destruction pilled
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APX400

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Little brother and his fiancee. Been taking a bunch of pictures of them, so they see how fat they are and lose weight kek. Also good practice for taking pics of unattractive clients. Must be working, he's down 40lbs since September

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>>3981868
they are both fat fucks, tfw brother loses weight and leaves his fat woman.
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>>3981870
Kek, she's starting to lose weight too but he's more serious about it, especially since his doc put him on blood pressure meds.
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>>3981868
PROTIP: When shooting fat people, or women that pose with their arms pulled in, crop tight. Even normal sized women have arms that look like blobs when pulled in. Also, make sure the woman has her jewelry turned around so you can see it in any engagement or wedding shots that include the hands.

Good on him for losing weight though.
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Can someone help me with my B&W, im shooting with a phone so quality is not the best, but I want to understand how to get more out of some B&W pictures.

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>>3981320
great photo anon, i was (accidentally) there when the riots broke out in chicago. in a fucked up way, I'm forever thankful I happened to be there to take photos
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This past summer I learned I knew nothing about photography, and it inspired me to take a class at my local community college this coming summer.

Pic is from when I was out at the West Lolo Complex Fire, as part of a helicopter crew. Our back burning went wrong and caused this shit show. Awesome to see, but it was a bad thing. The fire was twice as large when I finished my 2 weeks, than it was when I got there, just because winds changed and it jumped a canyon into wilderness area (or potential wilderness area, may not have been congressionally designated yet).

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>>3976695
<3

>>3976697
>>3976700
>>3976701
Sexy, too.
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First go at double exposure on film.

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from digishit general, may as well post these here too

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>>3986545

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>>3986545
I cross-post photos between threads constantly. I don't think it's bad as long as it's relevant.

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Murky woodlands is my shtick.

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>>3984273
It was also an accident for me. Such a great experience tho
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Howdy bros, nice night?

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These are the images I found interesting in this thread as well as a few thoughts.

>>3980076
I am drawn to the larger pieces across the top. Its almost like they spell a word to me. The balance here is great as well.

>>3982802
Overall an excellent photo but perhaps the carry border could be smaller. Also the blacks are crushed ever so slightly too much. I want to see her forehead.

>>3976717
Very pleasing to the eye. I am drawn to the person the chair as their levels are non-threatening to the rest of the photo while remaining unique to the eye. The balance is wonderful as I find myself satisfied with the rest of the color balance across the photo and find it all interesting to look at.

>>3975925
This photo is mundane without the sprouts along the bottom, which make this quite nice. In nature, it's easy to find your images bland and mirrored, especially in black and white. When you can find a way to break that mirror with another subject, like in this image, it creates a great effect.

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Gud thread, noice stuff
>>3976409
kek
>>3976434
gb2 reddit, assmad faggot
>>3986616
I just love the hustle and bustle of the big city! :o
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Jesus Christ all these fucking gear threads, do something.

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Frosty day in my hometown.

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>>3976693
This photo stands out to me. It's an unexpected angle of a lighthouse and it works well in black and white for some reason I'm not sure of.

Anyway here's mine. I mostly tend to colour photography. I'll process a raw in b&w if the white balance or color aren't working out for me rarely.

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test
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>>3975855
been using the black and white setting on my fuji and have been really happy with it. I'm surprised and how much of a different feel black and white gives.

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All these doods trying to be Ansel Adams and can't get a balance right.
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Early morning crow looking out on the estuary

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>>3988222
Can’t be Ansel and get tonal values correct without using film
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>>3988222
Yeah, cause Adams used a 16-50+ megapixel camera between his career in the early 1900s and will translate exactly to what the tonal range of our eyes everytime like on filmstock. Are people seriously this stupid on 4chan?





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