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Well, /p/....it finally happened.

I just bought the god camera. 50MP. And with the 50mm, there's no photo it can't slay.

What are some cool things I can do with a 5DS R and 50mm f/1.2L? I'm thinking that this will be my only and last camera and lens.

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Bread on lens or it didnt happen
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>>3967158
>What are some cool things I can do with a 5DS R and 50mm f/1.2L?
put it on a shelf and look at it
that is all
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you are one of the worst attention seeking faggots this board has ever had. we all know you’ll take shit photos and you won’t post any.
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>>3967161
I am researching glass cases.
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>>3967164
that works too, but I find the reflections distracting
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>>3967158
so, instead of taking ten pictures with it and starting a photo thread, you took a photo of a camera on a shelf, and you're asking what to do with it?
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>>3967166
>taking ten pictures with it
are you mad
devaluing it by actuating the shutter just like that
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>>3967160

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>>3967158
This is the fifth fucking thread about the 5DS R in the catalogue right now. Jesus Christ. Post some GOD DAMN photos
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>>3967172
I only JUST NOW got my dream camera, 'non. You know, you could offer some constructive advice instead of screaming about why I am not spoonfeeding you content.
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>>3967174
My constructive advice: take some GOD DAMN photos with your dream camera. You're feeding us all content whether you say you have your camera or whether you post photos you've taken with it, so please, at least make it decent content. Even better: make it art
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>>3967160
Imagine being this poor
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>>3967158
I bought a lightweight camera with an overweight, niche lens with an out of fashion focal length; and I can't afford any more lenses.

Congratulations canonanon, you have overtaken fujiposters on the retard scale.
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>>3967192
>out of fashion [sic] focal length
Anon, don't fucking start this shit again
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>>3967192
>lightweight camera
Is it?
>>
Go shoot tree branches with clouds behind I guess
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>got the 1.2 instead of the 1.0

Lol poorfag.
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>>3967226
Oof. How will I ever recover from this?
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>>3967227
Take pictures instead of showing off?
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I cool thing you can do is shoot wildlife with that 50x50. Just crop it down to 400mm. You have plenty of megapixels to work with.
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>>3967169
hahahaaa you bought kit you dont even know what to do with hahaa
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>>3967226
The 1.2 is better tho. If he bought he 1.0 you would have chastised him for a poor decision. Just admit that you’re poor and mad.
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>>3967158
Take a million low angle pictures of mushrooms
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>>3967307
How about leaves? I couldn't find any mushrooms with good lighting.

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>>3967321
Lmfao, this shit halos worse than a 70's superzoom. What absolute garbage.
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>>3967322
>reeeeeee stop posting about cameras, you need to post photos!!!!!
>*posts photos*
>reeeeeeeeeee, it's not as good as my gear when you look at the pixels!!!

Who's the real obnoxious gearfag here? lol
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>>3967307
Forgot, there was this one mushroomed tree. Didn't get very low on it, though.

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>>3967174
>imagine posting photos to a photo board
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>>3967344
I literally did, though.

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>>3967354
You did. And now I regret asking you to.
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>>3967356
Some of them turned out pretty good, I think. Maybe not going to win any photo competitions, but worth setting as a background on a phone.

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>>3967219
okay

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>>3967255
Why do you say that?
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>>3967364
>>3967366
>>3967354
>>3967329
>>3967328
>>3967324
>>3967321
They're not great photos, but they're photos. Start with this next time and I'm happy.
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>crutch city
i hope you didnt pay too much for it anon
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>>3967371
You’ll never feel happiness
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>>3967372
>crutch city
What?
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>>3967374
I'm not you anon.
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>>3967382
You have a folder of frog images anon.
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>>3967395
Exactly!
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>>3967364
All that eye searing LoCA makes me feel better about all the LoCA of my considerably cheaper Fuji XF35mm F1.4. I guess both of us just have to learn to make compositions where LoCA is less of a factor.
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>>3967412
The color fringing profile of this lens is complex, but I think once I run it through Photolab, 99% of the most offensive color outlines will be gone. This is just a SOOC JPEG because I'm on my laptop. I think for most of these photos (that one being perhaps an exception, since the photo sucks to begin with), a little color fringing in the highlights adds character.
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>>3967420
Can LoCA even be fixed in post? Maybe if cameras got LiDAR like high end smartphones they could include a depth map to help with that.
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>>3967158
>5DSR
>god camera
>doesn't know about the terrible dynamic range of those old sensors

Have fun with that shadow banding. anon. All the best.
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>>3967649
Not an issue if you just expose the photo correctly.

>>3967644
I've yet to find out how much it can be fixed.
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Full size JPEG export is 45 MB. Wowzers.

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New content!!

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New content!!

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>>3967956
are you holding the camera steady or is the lens too wide open and making the edges smear
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>>3967959
How can a lens be too wide open?
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>>3967956
>>3967954
>>3967951
>>3967950
>>3967366
>>3967364
>>3967354
>>3967329
>>3967328
>>3967324
>>3967321
>>3967322
>>3967320
>am I a talented photographer


Now with more bokeh!
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>>3967967
I didn't ask that.
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>>3967967
Nah talented photog is prolific. OP will have his gear on a shelf in 6 months.
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>>3967970
Neat. You know about shelves? Can you recommend a Shelf™ for me to consoom?
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>>3967959
I think it's just soft at macro distances. The photos I've taken of my pup seem pretty sharp at portrait distances.
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>>3967972
Sorry champ mine were custom built by a cabinet maker. If you’re in Manhattan I can give you his number.
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>>3967324
For comparison, after processing to remove chromatic aberration.

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>>3967986
I kind of like this more.

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Very cool, OP. Congratz. Ignore the crab bucket crowd and keep shooting.
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>>3967972
>inb4 14 threads of pictures of 5DSR with 50mm sitting on a shelf
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>>3968045
I will need to order some shelfs to do that. I don't even own 1 (one)!
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>>3967954
Swirly boke
>>
This thread is advertisement for crop cameras, isn't it?
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>>3968049
Put it on the floor then, caveman
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>>3967158
> tHeRE's nO pHOto iT CAn't SlAy
> post no photo

Jeez
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>>3968105
Did you scroll down?
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>>3967719
>You never need to raise shadows if you just expose right
Prime copium here
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>>3968144
Am I wrong?
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>>3968146
Yes, raising shadows is never a necessity, but it does give you a bigger toolbox to get the image you originally envisioned. Less ability to raise shadow, less ability to create the image you wanted.
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>>3968105
>"pOsT nO pHoTo"
>doesn't actually read thread
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>>3968105
LGTSS

>you
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>>3968144
>camera has 13 stops of range
>human eye sees 20 stops
>theoretical composed scene has 25 stops

>jUsT PrOperLY ExPoSE, BraH

Ok, Peter McKinnon
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>>3967987
Post sum more cousin
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>>3968226
I will tomorrow. Stuck inside today doing laundry and shit. I have other photos, but they have my dog in them, and I don't like posting personal information on 4chan, even if it's just a dog.
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>>3968144
>>3968173
>muh shadows!
>what...about...muh...shadows?!?
I hate DxO and DPReview for this shit. They created a generation of snapshitters who obsesses over a number on a graph which 99% of them can't even exploit.

Your snide comment about ETTR tells me that you are one of those snapshitters who talks about DR but can't actually exploit it. Achieving maximum DR requires ETTR on ANY camera. If you are not exposed to the right in RAW, then you are throwing away shadow detail. Period.

5DsR has 12.4ev of base ISO DR in RAW. That's about the same as Kodak Portra. The only two pictorial situations where this may not be enough are...
* WA landscape with unattenuated sun in frame.
* Interior real estate on a bright, sunny day.

Note that the ~15ev of an R5, A7r4, or D850/Z7 is also not usually enough to cover those types of scenes. People who actually shoot those scenes use HDR techniques or graduated neutral density filters. Yes, you may run into a sun-in-frame landscape requiring two frames on a 5DsR but only one on an R5 or a D850. But generally speaking if a 5DsR can't handle it, the other cameras are going to stumble as well, and your highest IQ/best result will come with blended frames.

>>3968220
A 25 stop scene would require HDR or GND on any camera. Even MF digital. Even specially processed B&W.
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>>3968285
So in other words, just expose it right the first time?
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>>3968285
>Achieving maximum DR requires ETTR on ANY camera.
Yeah, that's very, very false... It depends a lot on sensor tech and many other variables as well. Xtrans Fujis, for example, will actually do ETTL and severely underexpose at high iso settings in it's high dynamic range settings. Shadows and even midtones are then lifted considerably, at no additional noise, thanks to some processing magic that camera is doing behind the scenes.

Dual native ISO Panasonics will skew shadows and highlights balance on the higher native ISO setting, and will require to be shot on neutral exposure for optimal dynamic range results.
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>>3967158
You can take photos of branches for a weekend or two and then bring it out to a couple family gatherings.
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>>3968305
That's the tl;dr, yes.

>>3968306
>Yeah, that's very, very false...
No, it is not.

>It depends a lot on sensor tech and many other variables as well.
No, it does not. If you are not exposed to the right then you are cutting off signal instead of capturing it. Period. This is how it works on ANY sensor. Most of the time it does not matter because scene DR < sensor DR, so there's room for the exposure (histogram) to move around a bit without clipping signal. Where scene DR >= sensor DR you absolutely have to ETTR to maximize DR. If you overexpose you clip the highlights. If you underexpose you lose shadow detail to noise. There is no way around this. Because highlight loss is a hard cut off while shadow loss is gradual, we describe it as "ETTR" and focus on putting the brightest highlight detail right at the sensor cutoff.

>Xtrans Fujis, for example, will actually do ETTL and severely underexpose at high iso settings in it's high dynamic range settings.
The camera's dummy modes for JPEG, which try and deliver what some software engineer thought you would find pleasing, are irrelevant. At any ISO maximum captured DR comes with ETTR.
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>>3967967
Sasa
H
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>>3968396
To simplify this
DR is SNR at full well capacity, if you're not hitting full well, ie just before clipping, you are getting less dynamic range.

>>3968306
There definitely is additional noise, but Fuji also bake in noise reduction, this is one of the main reasons for the muddy smeared color and watercolor effect that Fuji shots have.

Fuji have not worked out how to beat the laws of electronic engineering. You're making a fool out of yourself.
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>>3967169
>>3967158

is the lens broken? does aperture control not work?
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>>3968441
Why don't you go be a busybody elsewhere?
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>>3968468
roasted
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>heh I don't need higher DR what I have is enough
Max cope
>Just "expose right" and you won't need the latitude of higher DR
Ultra max cope

Why do you need 50 MP? Can you not compose right and need higher pixel density to bail you out? Curious why subpar DR is "enough" but 24 megapixels isn't.
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>>3968479
Dude stfu omgggg
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>>3968479
Post the highest DR scene you've photographed in a single frame. We'll wait.
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>>3968528
This
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>>3967158
You better put your uncle's camera back before he sees you playing with it.
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>>3968678
Didn't someone ask you to post a photo with the highest DR scene you've ever photographed in a single shot?
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>>3967158
> I'm thinking that this will be my only and last camera and lens.
I’m so sorry you feel this way, because it’s a lie.
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>>3968775
Lol got him
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You really did play yourself anon. The Sigma ART 40mm f/1.4 would have at least been a reference quality lense, the one you have there is a mere meme.

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>>3968887
>lense
>white leaves
>snapshit from 2017

Reeks of yuropoor in here
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>>3968887
>this is your brain on snoy
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>>3968890
Also,
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>>3968908
An adapted lens on his budget A7
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>>3967192
50 will always be special because the perspective is so much like the human eye. that being said i think 35mm is an iconic look for a bit wider angle without too much distortion and somewhere between 70 and 85 is nice for those artsy close up shots with a bunch of bokeh and compression. if you don't need tele then any 2.8 standardzoom will cover pretty much everything but the road of 35mm + 50mm + 85mm that pull a lot of light (1.2 is overkill IMO) is a pretty good idea too if you know what shots you want before hand. i like to run and gun a bit more so a stabilized 2.8 standardzoom it is for me, but i keep a 1.8 50mm around because its so much image quality and light for so little money.
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>>3968887
oh my god sorry but what a bad picture. whats with that editing?
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>>3968942
Wrong. The human cone of visual attention is reportedly 55 degrees, which equates to a 42mm focal length. So if you have eyes close together like a serial killer, 50mm is better, if they're wide set like a downy 35mm is better.

Bare in mind that's "cone of visual attention" ie what you can actually pay attention to, rather than the blurry edges on the outside of your vision. When I have tested 35mm is much closer to my fov than 50mm, and I'd be very surprised if you didn't agree if you tried it for yourself.

>>3968943
t.basement dweller that's never touched grass
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>>3968942
35mm is closer than 50mm in terms of human eye.
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>>3968949
>his eyes don't zoom
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>>3968957
They do, 70mm equivalent
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>>3968887
>sigma (sh)art
>quality lens
lol. typical brainwashed sony consoomers
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>>3968949
35mm is how we view things, 50mm is how we remember things.
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>>3968942
This is why 80mm on 645 is so based.
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>>3968947
Sorry not a single person likes your low quality snapshit of a tree anon
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>>3967412
Nobody cares about loca except turboautist gearfags
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>>3968982
Viewers of photography don’t care about the majority of terms this board obsesses over.
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>>3968528
I'm just wondering why on one hand, someone "needs" 50 MP which is arguably excessive but doesn't "need" more DR. Either has a use case but regardless, more is often better, and it really comes off like cope when you have to say that you gotta act like you're shooting slide film in order to not worry about the DR of a 2016 digital camera.

>>3968678
This dude isn't me either
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>>3969165
>I'm just wondering why on one hand, someone "needs" 50 MP
Large prints of demanding subject matter.

>but doesn't "need" more DR.
Vast majority of scenes fit within 12.4ev. The rare few that do not can be managed via HDR or GND filters. Hell, with an IS lens and AEB you can even hand hold a 2-3 frame HDR exposure.

>and it really comes off like cope when you have to say that you gotta act like you're shooting slide film
Slide film maxed at 8ev. Saying this just proves, again, your ignorance regarding DR and what it means. Which brings us back to: post the highest DR single frame image you've ever shot.
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>>3968947
50mms magic is mostly about distortion and compression not how much you get into the frame. 35mm has a little bit of that fisheye distortion look, obviously not to the same extend but it does some. and higher than 50mm looks overly compressed. In terms of what you get into the frame 50mm is like like what you see when you close one eye.
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>>3969177
The thing is that I can see through your defensive bullshit. You would be singing a different tune if the camera had 24 MP and 15 stops of DR. You'd be saying nobody except pros need high MP and it's a crutch for people who can't compose. But it wasn't even on your radar because it's not something you needed to defend. Face it, the camera has issues with DR when compared to it's contemporaries let alone the modern offerings even from Canon, and no amount of coping about how you or nobody else should "need" objectively superior sensor performance is gonna change it.

>Post a photo
No. I don't need to post my own stuff to prove you're a defensive little Canon fanboy.
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>>3969177
>Slide film maxed at 8 ev
The reason I brought it up is because you're coping with shit about how if you just expose incredibly perfectly every single time DR doesn't matter. The same thing was said for slide film back in the day. Kinda sucks to just admit that this camera has subpar performance I know, but even Canon themselves made a better camera for the same price so you get nothing out of defending it online.
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>>3968963
This >>3968887 image is a film scan.
Picture was not related to text.
Do you prefer I say objective?

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>>3969242
looks like the shadows were dragged up baaad. i love film but this does not like film to me. what filmstock is it?
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>>3969255
This >>3969242 is just a digital photo.
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>>3969208
>You would be singing a different tune if the camera had 24 MP and 15 stops of DR. You'd be saying nobody except pros need high MP and it's a crutch for people who can't compose.
Because a camera just randomly fell into my lap and I decided to defend it? Really?

I bought my 5Ds and overhauled all of my lenses at a time when I was making damn good money. I could have gone with a 5D4 (13.6ev) or a different brand (Nikon D850 at nearly 15ev, best available base ISO DR at the time). I chose what I chose because it best fit my needs. The resolution was more important to me than an extra stop of DR (vs. 5D4). And while the D850 could match it on resolution and provide another two stops base ISO DR, Canon color and ergonomics were far more important to me. Color impacts every shot and has to be edited/balanced on every shot. Being able to lift shadows 6ev instead of "only" 4ev might impact the result in...one out of a thousand shots? Fewer? The type of shots where I'm on a tripod with time to evaluate histograms and shoot 2 frames if I think I'll need more DR.

>Face it, the camera has issues with DR
The camera has imaginary issues in the minds of no-photo spec boys. Nobody who actually shoots a 5Ds or 5DsR complains about DR because it has plenty of DR. It's a match for fucking Portra. All of the hands on reviews said the same thing, including reviews by people like the Northrups who normally make a big deal out of DR.

>No. I don't need to post my own stuff to prove you're a defensive little Canon fanboy.
You are either a no-camera/no-photo, or you have zero confidence that you can properly evaluate your own shots for DR and choose one that is better than what someone can produce with any camera. I'm confident I could capture greater DR than you could, even if you own a D850, simply because you don't know how to expose/process for maximum DR in the first place.
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>>3969209
>The reason I brought it up is because you're coping with shit about how if you just expose incredibly perfectly every single time DR doesn't matter.
No, I'm pointing out that a sensor with the DR of fucking Portra simply does not run into DR limitations very often. And when it does, it's generally a situation which would "break" the DR of the best sensors today (R5, D850, A7rIV) requiring HDR or GND.

My point about ETTR is NOT that you need to expose "incredibly perfectly every time" which is just retarded. (Do Portra shooters need to expose incredibly perfectly every time? Is that a common complaint of color neg shooters?) My point is that someone who understands exposure, when faced with a high DR scene, will capture MORE range with a 5DsR than a spec boy with a Sony and zero understanding of exposure.

You have zero experience here but you will keep doubling down on your spec obsessed narrative.

>but even Canon themselves made a better camera for the same price so you get nothing out of defending it online.
The R5 is 2.5x the price. If you want to be in the Canon system and don't give a shit about video, there is nothing that can touch the IQ/dollar of the 5DsR right now. It produces absolutely gorgeous prints and IQ. It is a fantastic camera. If you want to be in the Nikon system, the D8x0 bodies are comparable in offering amazing IQ for a stupid low price.
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* blocks your path and mogs you *
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please do yourself a favor and sell both and buy a cheap rebel
these pics are absolute dogshit that you might as well have taken with a phone
also, the CA and ghosting on that lens, holy shit
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>>3969803
>says the nophotos
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>>3969825
You have such a onions brain. This is what an actual good lens looks like wide open.

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You're a dogshit photographer that can't hit focus. You should have bought a T2 and kit lens.
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>>3969847
>admits it's the lens
>recommends buying a different body
What did he mean by this?
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>>3969867
I never recommended that he buys a different body. A shitty lens is shit no matter what you mount it onLL
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>>3969847
>busy bokeh
>soft, dark corners
>only razor sharp in the dead center of the frame
The only reason there is no chromatic aberration is because of the flat lighting.
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>>3969871
>A shitty lens is shit no matter what you mount it on
Wrong, sometimes a low MP sensor can make a lens work better due to being near its max optical resolution.
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>>3969900
This is never true. Improving the sensor always improves the result *for the same view size.*
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>>3967189
I don't have to imagine at all. Make reality stop.
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>>3970056
It's going to get worse before it gets worse.
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>>3968285

>5DsR has 12.4ev of base ISO DR in RAW. >That's about the same as Kodak Portra. The only two pictorial situations where this may not be enough are...
>* WA landscape with unattenuated sun in frame.
>* Interior real estate on a bright, sunny day.

With higher dynamic range also comes less noisy shadow details.

I shoot landscapes. I find my Canon 80D vastly superior to my Canon 6D at base ISO. My 6D has noisy shadows that can't be pulled around as much and the highlights clip quite easily. I pretty much exclusively shoot 2 shot HDR with the 6D. With the 80D I can shoot a single a exposure.
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>>3969177
>Vast majority of scenes fit within 12.4ev.
As stated previously, just because it can technically fit, doesn't mean it looks good. It's not such a black and white issue you're making it out to be.

>The rare few that do not can be managed via HDR

Now you'll get alignment errors if there's any wind. Massive artifacting in the leaves of trees

>GND filters

Requires relatively clear boundary line between sky and subject, also pretty much requires a tripod to be set correctly.

If your scene doesn't have a clear boundary, you GND filter will kill the shadows of your subject, forcing you to rely on a large dynamic range sensor to pull those back, so it doesn't look like black holes swallowed your trees.

>Slide film maxed at 8ev.

Stop comparing shit to film. Slide film has horrible dynamic range and pretty much requires you to sacrifice your deepest shadows.
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>>3970113
To further on what this anon said, the 5DS R doesn't even have anywhere near 12.4EV of usable dynamic range.

If we're talking a cutoff figure of 50% noise, then it's just 9.76EV

And with regards to slide film, slide film existed so people could put their negatives in a projector, the very limiting dynamic range was the reason that negative film was the go-to for nearly all photographers.
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>>3969208
>nophoto
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>>3970111
The 5DsR and 80D are about the same when it comes to base ISO DR. Clean at +4ev, a bit noisy at +5ev, and starting to fall apart at +6ev.

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>>3970113
>>Vast majority of scenes fit within 12.4ev.
>As stated previously, just because it can technically fit, doesn't mean it looks good.
That is exactly what it means. The cutoff on DxO (and PtP's) DR models is the point at which noise starts to become obtrusive at common print sizes. The models are intended to test what is acceptable IQ to a human being.

DxO reports 12.4ev for the 5DsR and 14.8ev for the D850, a 2.4ev difference. If you look at DPReview's tool, you find that the 5DsR at +4ev is very similar to the D850 at +6ev. If anything DxO is overstating the difference as the 5DsR at +4 is slightly cleaner than the D850 at +6, and that's with the D850 at its lower native ISO.

Put another way, the 5DsR is as clean/usable with a 4ev push as the D850 with a 6ev push. A two stop difference, just as I said because that matches my experience with ACR/PS: you can push shadows +4ev if need be and be OK in print.

Now if you're willing to wait for DxO's noise reduction tool to do its magic, you can honestly get a +6ev shadow push out of a 5DsR. And the result is damn close to a D850 with standard NR in ACR. Rendering this even more of a moot point.

>It's not such a black and white issue you're making it out to be.
It is pretty black and white, you just refuse to learn and insist on doubling down on your "canon dr bad mkay?" narrative. Which just boggles my mind. What experience do you have? Have you ever touched a 5DsR? I own a 5Ds and my friend owns a D850. I've had the chance to shot both side by side. Have you?And if not, what makes you think you can lecture me on DR and tell me I'm wrong?

>Now you'll get alignment errors if there's any wind.
I don't because I manually blend. Which means most of the image comes from one frame or the other, not both.

>Stop comparing shit to film.
YOU brought up slide film. YOU brought it up to imply that you have to shoot a 5DsR as carefully as slide film. YOU are wrong, so YOU stop bringing it up.

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>>3970123
>To further on what this anon said,
Don't samefag.

>the 5DS R doesn't even have anywhere near 12.4EV of usable dynamic range.
It absolutely does. More if you're willing to throw DxO's NR tool at it.

>If we're talking a cutoff figure of 50% noise, then it's just 9.76EV
Idiot, DxO's cutoff is 50% and the resulting values are 12.39ev print / 11.05ev screen at base ISO.

>And with regards to slide film,
Stop bringing up slide film. You claimed the 5DsR has to be exposed like slide film. It does not. Slide film is irrelevant. A comparison film would be Portra with the caveat that neg film has most of its latitude in highlights while digital has most of its latitude in shadows. A 5DsR is no less capable in terms of exposure than MF 6x9 Portra.
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>>3970188
>DXO says it's 12.4
No, DXO says it's 9.5, pic related.
>>3970189
>samefag
No anon, take your schizo meds
>NR improves DR
No anon, it doesn't
>DXO is 12.39 for print and 11.05 for screen
It has an absolute range of 9.5 anon, pic related
>5DSR is as good as 6x9 portra
not in your wildest dreams, 6x9 portra has more significantly more dynamic range than the best phase one backs.
What happens to your digislug image if you underexpose your canon by 6 stops? unusable garbage? what happens if you overexpose portra 6 stops? still perfectly usable negative...
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>>3970189
and no, DXO don't use a 50% figure, they use a 0db figure, ie, there is no signal

>Dynamic range corresponds to the ratio between the highest brightness a camera can capture (saturation) and the lowest brightness it can capture (which is typically when noise becomes more important than the signal — that is, a signal-to-noise ratio below 0 dB
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>>3970194
>No, DXO says it's 9.5, pic related.
No, PtP applies their own standard and derives different numbers than DxO using the same data. Pic related is DxO's result. That you don't know this is just another example of your ignorance on the topic, and another reason why you need to stop talking.

PtP's online tool is fine for comparing relative performance because the curves are the same. But their numerical values are NOT comparable to traditional film Stouffer Step Wedge tests. I don't know why they use a different standard or think it's superior because it is obviously flawed as anyone with a film scanner and a DSLR can tell you. DxO's standard yields DR values that are very close to what you would expect comparing to film.

>No anon, it doesn't
DR is literally defined by the noise floor you idiot. If you reduce noise *by any means* you increase DR (i.e. usable detail). If you were to NR the test files before feeding them to the software, the software would report higher DR values. This is true for any camera of course. The point isn't that this changes relative standing, only that it makes DR-challenging scenes even more rare.

>It has an absolute range of 9.5 anon, pic related
No. Stop talking if you haven't read the FAQ at PtP, don't understand that his numbers are not directly comparable to DxO's numbers, and lack the experience to know which numbers more closely match traditional film tests.

>not in your wildest dreams, 6x9 portra has more significantly more dynamic range than the best phase one backs.
You've never shot either, but that won't stop you from lecturing someone who has.

>What happens to your digislug image if you underexpose your canon by 6 stops? unusable garbage? what happens if you overexpose portra 6 stops? still perfectly usable negative...
Have you ever shot Portra? Even once? A 6 stop overexposure would destroy highlight detail. The 5DsR shadow detail at -6ev would be noisy, but it would at least be there.
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>>3970194
>>3970376
Forgot the pic.

>>3970195
>and no, DXO don't use a 50% figure, they use a 0db figure, ie, there is no signal
Holy fucking shit, you don't even understand dB and yet you are posting about dynamic range measurements???

0dB is NOT "zero signal". A positive dB means signal is stronger than noise, and a negative dB means signal is weaker than noise. 0dB is literally the cross over point where signal and noise are each 50%.

https://www.sharetechnote.com/html/RF_Handbook_SNR.html
https://dsp.stackexchange.com/questions/52017/negative-signal-to-noise-ratio
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-meaning-of-a-negative-SNR-What-are-its-implications-for-wireless-communications

>>Dynamic range corresponds to the ratio between the highest brightness a camera can capture (saturation) and the lowest brightness it can capture (which is typically when noise becomes more important than the signal — that is, a signal-to-noise ratio below 0 dB
They even fucking describe this in the section you quoted:
>WHICH IS TYPICALLY WHEN NOISE BECOMES MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE SIGNAL
"More important than" pretty clearly means >50% of the total.
>THAT IS, A SIGNAL-TO-NOISE RATIO BELOW 0 DB
If 0dB = "no signal at all" then there could be nothing below 0dB.
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>>3970194
just checked the site

Goddamn why does canon have such limited dynamic range. Even the Nikon D600 outperforms the much more modern 5d4

I'm tempted to switch to Nikon now

pic related
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>>3970569
A lot of canon cameras still use their outdated manufacturing facilities, which were outdated a decade ago. However their latest and greatest cameras use sensors that have finally caught up with Sony.
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>>3970569
>Goddamn why does canon have such limited dynamic range.
Amazingly, people who actually know how to take pictures are able to take great photos with Canon cameras, while amateurs bitch and moan that they can't have a single frame that exposes for the bright sun and the dark shadows inside a house in a single frame.
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>pretty much requires you to sacrifice your deepest shadows
or just shoot scenes which can be captured effectively with the chosen medium...

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Lens Aperturef/11.0
Brightness-0.3 EV
Exposure Bias0 EV
Metering ModeSpot
Light SourceFlash
FlashNo Flash, Compulsory
Focal Length100.00 mm
Color Space InformationUncalibrated
Image Width2048
Image Height1383
RenderingNormal
Exposure ModeManual
White BalanceManual
Scene Capture TypeStandard
ContrastNormal
SaturationNormal
SharpnessNormal
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>>3970569
>a half stop is going to make a major difference
Another spec baby with no experience.
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>>3970587
>Amazingly, people who actually know how to take pictures are able to take great photos with iphone 3 cameras, while amateurs bitch and moan that they can't have a single frame that exposes for the bright sun and the dark shadows inside a house in a single frame.
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>>3971272
The d600 was entry level FF released over 9 years ago and still beats the brand new Eos RP by a stop and a half (around 3 times as big a range in light!)
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>>3971425
Fun fact - Both the D600/D610 and D750 share the same sensor and while the D600/D610 already offers amazing dynamic range, Nikon went all apeshit on the performance of the same sensor inside the D750 and got even more DR out of it.

The Canon EOS RP is a gimped piece of shit.
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nice trolling Anon
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>>3971425
>the RP
>entry level ff using ancient sensor to keep price at $1k or less
Wow, you really showed Canon.
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>>3971196
Nice cow.
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>>3970380
Are you ever going to post a photo you took with such a broad dynamic range that you just *needed* any more than what the 5DSR had to offer?
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>>3972538
I think you're confusing this anon >>3970376 >>3970380 with this one >>3970194.

None of the DR cry babies in this thread have anything to post.
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>>3972574
Those DR crybabies are right though. In OP`s case I don`t see why he would need 50MP. Unless he's printing large format posters of a couple square meter, or needs to do enormous crops, which I doubt is the case on either, looking at his lens choice. Proper dynamic range is important.

This is also an older DIGIC 6 processor, so it will have a struggle properly handling those 50MP.

It's a nice kit, but I would think why? if someone comes up with this unless he would need for a specific use case, given the current choices in the market.

Either way, enjoy OP. Try out some portrait photography.
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>>3972599
>can't produce a single sample high DR photo that could be captured on a 14ev sensor but not a 12ev one
>"Proper dynamic range is important."
Choose one and only one.

>Unless he's printing large format posters of a couple square meter,
50mp makes a difference at 16x24. I'm not saying you need 50mp at that size, but it's already starting to show an advantage.

>This is also an older DIGIC 6 processor, so it will have a struggle properly handling those 50MP.
It doesn't struggle at all.
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>>3972625
>Choose one and only one.
I'm just saying proper dynamic range is important when you chose a camera.

>50mp makes a difference at 16x24
Yeah, that's a couple square meter..as I said, he won't be printing those. And a 24MP camera does just fine in that format..

>It doesn't struggle at all.
I doubt that, DIGIC 6 we are talking about a CMOS that's almost a decade old. It will struggle with 50MP on image quality.
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>>3972638
>>Choose one and only one.
>I'm just saying proper dynamic range is important when you chose a camera.
You have no clue what "proper dynamic range" is. That's the point I'm driving home when asking for a sample photo. As a practical matter the 5DsR has very good DR.

>>50mp makes a difference at 16x24
>Yeah, that's a couple square meter..as I said, he won't be printing those.
How do you know?

>>It doesn't struggle at all.
>I doubt that,
I own one. When you own one you can offer an opinion on this point.

>It will struggle with 50MP on image quality.
LOL how the fuck do you think it struggles on IQ with 50mp? 50mp is the selling point. It was the first 35mm format camera to offer MFDB levels of IQ. (In fairness to the D800 it was pretty close to low/mid MFDB itself.)





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