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>Posting in /fgt/ doesn't make you gay unless you don't post photos on film.
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>>3948580
Y'know what, Fomapan 400? You're alright.

At 200.

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>>3948492
samefag here, so if i should avoid zenits, should i get a canon ae-1 instead
or rather, acceptable price points for cameras, ive been scouring some websites and while particular cameras always tend to have a range, i don’t know if it’s necessarily considered “cheap” or not
i appreciate the responses so far a lot /fgt/s
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>tfw actually managed to go out and take some photos for the first time since I got my camera a few months ago
>flashed EEEE EE when I went to take the first picture
>had to go home and fiddle with it
>lens was somehow not clicked in all the way and the button wasn't popped out
>accidentally take a picture of my wall
>go back to the park
>the clouds rolled in and the lighting sucked
oh well, at least I actually managed to get out. a cute lady asked me if I was taking pictures of birds and then asked if I wanted to take her portrait while she was half working dragging a bag full of leaves. ty for reading my blog.
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>>3948602
AE-1 isn't bad, but I believe anon is saying that one of the auto slrs with a program mode is a better deal at this time. I disagree if you want to learn to use manual photography tricks, but it's a fine way to start and most are half manual. Lenses make the camera so whatever has the cleanest examples of somewhat cheap lenses is best. Hence Nikon or the current Canon mount. A Pentax mx or similar is also fine. Bear in mind they're all old and most have never been serviced and almost every single one of mine has broken in some way.
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well I'm kinda disappointed in the scans but I think I can salvage them

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>>3948626
did you shag her?
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Today on Fix Old Cameras, we're going to be repairing what I believe is a stuck leaf shutter. It's a very common problem where lubricant from the clockwork seeps onto the leaf blades and causes them to stick open. The success of your repair is limited to your skill, the quality of your tools, and your tolerance for alcohol.

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>>3948629
oh yeah, right in the bushes
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>>3948630
It looks like the owner tried to remove the lens in order to spray it down, but the inner bezel was unable to apply torque to remove the outer barrel. This is going to require making slots on the lens barrel for our spanner. You will need the following tools.

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>>3948634
jesus christ, are you sure about this ?
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>>3948636
A new one is in the mail, I just want to see if I can get this one running before I go on a trip on Saturday. I'm sunk cost fallacied into the filter set and already had the whole thing apart once before so fuck it.

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>>3948636
Aaand I fucked it. It's bookshelf sculpture now. Maybe next time. I'm also pretty sure one of the springs exploded again and it was already cooked. They don't usually work fine and then suddenly not over a sticky shutter.

Not like that lens isn't a rotted out fungus trap that cleaning merely made slightly less blurry. Still in for less than those filters including tools so I feel little to nothing.

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>>3948637
edge of our seats Anon, we're all watching
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>>3948638
hahahahahahahahaha well at least this was done on a shitty lens
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Goddamnit, I got cucked by Moscow Mitch.
Jupiter-12 and Jupeiter-9 set from Russian ebay, both supposedly CLAs. The 12 is fine, but the 9... It may or may not have been Cleaned and Adjusted, but they were sure to Lubricate the fuck out of every surface they could get their hands on. Every square mm of the aperture blades are soaked with oil (still move fine, at least), and it's leaking down the helicoid and out of the fucking mounting threads.
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>>3948640
It was pretty clear in the center and both lenses were miraculously synchronized after I put it back together, but there were other issues. I never shot color through it but the coating was half gone throughout the whole stack.

It was a wonderful project camera and taught me a lot, I could easily run a large format rig and not fuck up too bad at this point. They're designed to get sprayed out with contact cleaner every six months and timing a Compur is easy as pie.

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>>3948644
What's going to kill me is hauling the mamiya around on an outdoor day trip in the rain and fog with nothing but a 6 stop red filter. Or break out the 400h and hope it's fall in the mountains.

Kids, this is why you buy your friend the flexaret you should have got. So you can use it. It's bad when Czech engineering and and a studio camera that came looking like it took a spill off a mountain into a hot spring are the only working film cameras between two retard hobbyists.

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>>3948646
>bought a Mamiya rb67 set recently
>both lenses absolutely trash

dude flat out lied about the quality of the camera. So glad ebay and similar sites defend the buyer
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>>3948648
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>>3948649
body had this hardened yellow gunk/ resin on the mirror too
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>>3948648
I bought supaa exerent+++, some separation and there's a tea stain around the edges of the lens group. All I really had to do was replace all the foam. We'll see how it looks in color, can't see it in black and white. Professional studio cameras are fun, at least whatever nip asshole had mine kept in good order barring it looking like he beat a hooker to death with it.
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>>3948656
I bought a Near Mint Hasselblad from Japan, surprisingly it was actually accurate. The film back is fucky wucky but I can fix that.
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>>3948580
Is op a faggot?
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>>3948580
fukc you i want dat 6x9 FFFUUJJJIII i gotta sell all my shit gear and buy new pog geare
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>>3948657
I had to search the archive to find the appropriate nightmare image I took of it. I want to mount a little shinto shrine gate in front of the lens and turn it into a ghost camera.

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>>3948659

>Kiev 4a
>Retina 1a
>Shit

Give yourself some credit, there's some decent stuff there. The lens on that Kiev is one of the best lenses you can buy for Kiev/Contax mount even over the Zeiss lenses, Soviet engineers knocked it out of the park with the Helios-103
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>>3948663
>anon open up I know you're in, I can see you
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>>3948666

I recognize the Kiev but I can't recognize the lens, what is it?
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>>3948670

Helios-103 53/1.8. They are super sharp and contrasty. The click-stops on the aperture ring satisfy my autism.
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My filter was misty, provided some interesting effects.

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>>3948687

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iam used to rangefinders for years now...but now and then a SLR would really fit me well because they're better for compositions and i shouldn't strain my RF contax too much.
which system would you suggest /p/ ?
a nikon f3 or contax slr for the autowinding ?
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>>3948646
>pic
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>>3948659
fuck you live like this
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>>3948692
Full manual with an external meter. A different format. Pencil drawing on dollar store sketchbooks.
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>>3948659
what the fuck
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Any anons have experience with Hasselblad X5, just found out my school has a couple and wondering if it's worth scanning them myself on the X5 (I've heard scanning can take a while) or should I leave the lab to do it.
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>>3948590
soft as fuck
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>>3948658
Yep. I hate this insecure "lol I'm gay lol" posting. You actually are latently homo and trying to cover it, you cocksucker. Normal dudes don't project this faggotry so much.
inbf
>dewddd im being ironic lollll
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>>3948659
did you hire ken rockwell to take this photo
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So I got an enlarger on ebay.

Only problem is, I'm getting it shipped from england to burgerland. So It's designed to work with crazy british plugs.

The power supply is 240v to 12v. American outlets are 120v. Can I just use one of those $50 step-up transformers from home depot+a plug converter?

I don't think the 50hz frequency diff is going to matter cuz there are no motors or anything.
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>>3948666
Its not shit no, but soviet/old german stuff are really archaic and i'm tired of wrangling gear like it. My japshit has spoiled me.

>>3948701
Its my sell-box, dont you have any boxes?
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>>3948842
No but I don’t have painted asbestos either.
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>>3948831
If there is no electronics but a switch, fuse and a light bulb, you likely could just order a 120V rated replacement bulb or two and change the plug / use adapter. However a 120V bulb of same wattage uses 2 x Amps compared to 240V bulb so wiring, switch and fuse needs to handle that. If it blows the fuse or catches fire you should have used a transformer instead.
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>>3948866
can someone edit this for me? I couldn't be fucked to re-download photoshop as I was using a cracked download on my last computer
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>>3948869
Probably just going with the transformer to be safe, don't want to risk this thing. Took forever to find one in working order.

These things CAN'T be more than 500 watts right? A box that will supply that seems to be pretty cheap.

>>3948872
edit for what?
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>>3948873
just the lens flare and dust spots
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>>3948872
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>>3948817
ok mr chart sniffer, here's a sharper one

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>>3948867
so what, am i not allowed to have a wallpaper now? idiot lmao
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>>3948881
Im trying to think of if i’ve ever seen wallpaper in a house like, in person.
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>>3948878
Let it go kid this is trash
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>>3948817
>Expecting flatbed scanners to actually focus on the image it's scanning when it uses fixed-focus lenses
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>>3948888
It's my fault, really. What was I thinking, posting photos on /p/, hoping for constructive discussion?

I'll go back to shitting up photo threads by arguing about aperture equivalence and such.
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>>3948580
The Mamiya 6 looks amazing but I'm wondering if there are options which are older.

Criteria:
>6x6 120 or square 135
>rangefinder
>focus with the lens, not a thumb wheel
>film advance lever, not a thumb wheel

Built-in light meters are amazing but old cameras don't really have them
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>>3948907
Forgot a pic. Here's one of my asshole
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>>3948907
Maybe the Seagull 203-I

It's like a Super Isolette but it has the focus on the lens, and a film advance lever.
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>>3948905
We already told you, it’s soft as fuck.
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>>3948905

Man, it's just bad. Don't take it too personally but I know that's difficult when it's your work being criticized. But it's unusable. It's like you missed focus and moved too. The eye and the end of his beak are the closest thing to in focus and even that area is unusable.
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>>3948908
>>3948907

Just get the 7 and crop
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>>3948990
what the fuck that does not make sense
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>>3948907
>The Mamiya 6 looks amazing but I'm wondering if there are options which are 1/30th the price.
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>>3948991
Mamiya 6 is like 2500, Mamiya 7 is like 3000-4000. Save up a little more and get the better format that gives you the option to crop to square. It's better to buy the 7 than to buy the square format version you'll eventuall get tired of the square format and want the 6x7 ????? How doesn't that make sense you mouthbreathing fuck. Some times it amazes me how you have to spoonfeed some of you common sense train of thoughts.
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>>3948995
Exactly. The dude can't afford it but wants the Mamiya without the price.
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>>3949002
>The Mamiya 6 looks amazing but I'm wondering if there are options which are older.
>Just take the Mamiya 7 !!!!!
calm down dude
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honestly now girls and boys
isnt 36 exposures per roll of film a little too much?
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>>3949010
I think it's fine, unless you mean to take a lot of pics of different film stocks in a single day, in which case I agree
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>>3949002
i asked about old cameras that shoot 6x6 and you suggested a mamiya 7
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>>3949010
It's a little much unless you're burning through rolls for coverage and alternate shots, say for a project.

>>3948873
If it's anything like the durst m601, it's a light socket with a cord and switch attached. You need a transformer anyway to run the halogen bulb. OR you stick in a self ballasted LED that pulls 2 watts, puts out more light and almost no heat, and fires up instantly.
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>>3949005
he's looking for cheaper not older, he's just hiding the fact. There is no analog to the Mamiya 6. If you go for something like seagull you'll be disappointed as fuck with the drop off in quality. You get what you pay for.
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>>3949016
Rolleicord then motherfucker if you want 6x6, how about that. If you want a Mamiya get a Mamiya, save up there is no cheaper """""old""""" option
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>>3949002
>>3949004
>>3949019
You are so mad
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>The dust and water stains are more authentic.
Photoflo is on the way.

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>>3949034
To think intsa thots add dust to their pictures

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>>3949035

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>>3949037
When scanning photos with a camera are you supposed to keep the exposure the same or use auto?

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>>3949039
And by exposure in mean fixed s.s. aperture and iso.

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>>3949040
Fixed aperture and base iso, shutter speed relative to the dynamic range of the image.

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>>3949016
Differentfag here, hi. Try one of the Fujifilm "Texas Leica" type cameras; IIUC some of them have a 6x6 mode of some kind. Wonderful glass of course.
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>>3949034
Youcan rewet them and redry them when the photoflo comes
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>>3949032
not at all actually, just a dumb fucking question pivoted to sound like another question
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>>3949046
the fixed lens options are more reliable then the old options with interchangeable lenses, but still Mamiya glass on the 6&7 >>>>> the fuji
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>>3949053
lol all 3 of those are you
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>>3949077

Congrats, it's not rocket science my guy; its the same writing pattern. If you couldn't pick up that writing style and the vocabulary out of the rest then I'd say you really are a fucking mouthbreather. Get a Mamiya 6 (preferably 7). There is no "older" (code for cheaper) analog counterpart that will give you similar results.
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>>3948644
would you recommend this enlarger to others or do you wish you had a different one?
also since you seem like you're pretty into this, how do you store all of your negatives, i started home developing/scanning a couple months ago and now i have so many negatives stored basically in ziplocks and im sure that's not good for them
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>>3949081
you can buy binder pages like what you put pokemon cards in except it stores film negative.
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>>3949079
lol you responded that many times that mad each time
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I have some 40 year old black and white film that I want to try shooting, should I adjust the ISO I shoot it at?
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>>3949097
Yes.
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>>3949094
Literally no one is mad, but ok, sure thing. Go compromise and find yourself unhappy later on.

>>3949097
What stock or what ISO?
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>>3949101
40 iso originally, I heard you should overexpose by one stock for each decade
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>>3949101
You aren’t responding to OP I already have 2 Mamiyas.
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is there anyone who has ever made a camera that takes 8mm or 16mm film rolls and just takes photos?
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>>3949168
Yeah, 8mm movie cams usually have a single frame option.
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>>3948590
The question I have is: does exposing at 400 and pushing a stop in development have the same effect?
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>>3949103
2.5 ISO lol
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>>3949019
>If you want a Mamiya get a Mamiya, save up there is no cheaper """""old""""" option
i have money and gear. i like old ones because they are interesting
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>>3949034
looks good damn. what film is this? im assuming you didn't do anything to the colors and they just look like this
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>>3949037
fantastic
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>>3949077
all of those three are me, and im not him. dumbass
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>>3949079
>"older" (code for cheaper)
older is just code for older. cameras were made differently before the plastic revolution
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>>3948644
im tempted to start doing this but my wife would probably divorce me for being a complete faggot
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>>3949081
>how do you store all of your negatives
not him but ill answer because i sucked four dicks its called a negative sleeve
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>>3949168
>is there anyone who has ever made a camera that takes 8mm and 16mm film rolls and just takes photos?
i don't know why this question was deleted its cool
>>3949171
>Yeah, 8mm movie cams usually have a single frame option.
a compact rangefinder that shoots something crazy like super 8 would be pretty neat. you wouldn't save any money though. i think 100' of super8 and something like 35mm hp5 is the fucking same. shooting film must cost like $50/minute.
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>>3949103
>Black-and-white film holds up much better since it has only a single layer of silver halides, and no color dyes. I would rate it down one stop for every two decades, meaning all of the above is basically halved. Under 20 years old, I’d likely expose it only one-third of a stop over or at box speed (the manufacturer’s recommended speed) if I knew it had been stored cold or frozen.
t. i've literally never actually done this
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Has anyone ever seen portra 800 with a metal canister like this? I’ve been shooting this film non stop for years and never seen this.

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>>3949268
i remember reading something about a shortage of the blackened tin or whatever that material is, and so film canisters started to ship like this. never seent one yet
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how big can i print a 35mm negative without it looking like my ass? assuming infinite pixel density of the scanner or a gigantic chemical print
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>>3949269
huh news to me too. there is a shortage of everything currently.
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>>3949042
What do you mean? When I look at the histogram the film fits just fine without clipping. I think I'll bracket a shot and see what one comes out the best.

>>3949050
Yeah that's the plan

>>3949257
Twas kodak 250d, I used negative lab pro to convert them and im not sure how much of the colors they adjust.

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>>3949216
Not quite because the original exposure won't have as much shadow detail and pushing doesn't affect the shadows much. If you shot it at 1600 for instance and pushed 3 stops the highlights/midtones would benefit from the push, but the shadows stay about the same, which is why the overall contrast goes up.

Foma over-rates their film. The 400 is actually somewhere between 250 and 320 which is why people complain about it being a grainy and high-contrast film because if you shoot a box speed you're pushing from the get-go.

Pushing and pulling in development creates higher and lower contrast, but 'pulling' AKA overexposing when taking the shot is more about making sure the shadows get enough information.
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>>3949270
Really depends on the film. 3200iso b&w? Not very large. 50iso color negative? Prolly 24 inches or even bigger.

For an extreme example, Adox says this film https://www.adox.de/Photo/films/cms20ii-en/ can be printed up to 2.5m diagonal because if you develop it right, it resolves an absolutely absurd 800 line pairs/mm which equals about 500 megapickles.
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>>3949268
>>3949269
>>3949271
https://emulsive.org/articles/news/announcement-kodak-supply-chain-issues-require-a-temporary-change-to-all-35mm-canisters-effective-immediately
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Going to a dingy bar with some friends tomorrow night. Gonna try to push Ultramax to 1600.

Why does no one make 1600 color film anymore.
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how the fuck do you store this shit once you've exposed it? do you have an opaque container of some sort or do you just reuse the tape and stick it back in your whore bag
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>>3949307
reuse the tape and stick it back in my whore bag
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>>3949308
what if you get fucked? my bag is a shithole.
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>>3949309
wdym what if I get fucked ? if you're so scared of fucking up your exposed film, I'd 3D printed something like this : https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1527807

I might actually try to print those next week
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>>3948873
If i understand the manual right (google for durst m370 operating manual), it uses a 100W halogen bulb "order code COLAMP 100 S"
>>3949017
It's a color enlarger, the LED bulb would need to be ~13W and (in case it is actually used for color prints) have about same spectra as a halogen bulb.
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>>3949307
>how the fuck do you store this shit once you've exposed it?
End of the backing paper has another strip of tape to seal it closed.
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>>3948907
There aren't any with "modern" - i.e. not a 3/4 element Tessar - lenses.
In the heyday of 6x6 cameras (50's to 70's), RFs were a dying breed for professional use, virtually all 6x6 cameras had a mirror (TLR or SLR).

If you don't mind a fixed lens camera with a Tessar, check the Iskra 6x6 (Soviet but good quality, especially the lens) or the Agfa Super Isolette series.
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>>3949010
I like the amount, I might shoot rolls with fewer exposures but those cost way more per exposure so I'd rather just get 36.

I also want to get a half frame camera so I can get 72 shots on a roll, that would be fun.

If I bought a bulk roll of b&w film I'd roll up some short 12exp rolls or even less to use for testing cameras.

>>3949303
Yeah it's a shame, if they made 1600 film I'd love it as a go-to film for my point and shoot. Best you can do now is buy an 800 speed film and push it a stop.
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>>3949459
>TFW 1600 ISO slide film used to be available
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>>3949466
I wish I lived and died without ever seeing this decade honestly, things would have been a lot nicer.

I couldn't afford a 100ASA slide film now, though, I doubt I'd pay for a 1600 speed one.
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>>3949466
Provia 400X pushed to 1600 and looked better than native 1600iso slide films. 400X was a huge loss :(
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>>3949307
I believe ilford is lick and stick. Foma and others have a peel off sticker on the end of the roll instead. Fuji has a really fancy one. There are instructions on the tab for when you’re unsure.
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Status report:
Trip to mountains w/ waterfall and covered bridge on iternetary was a success. Mr. Mamiyagi weighted down the trunk quite nicely on the mountain passes, failing to roll. My companion used my Olympus, deleting most of the snapshits upon reflection upon returning. I used her flexaret vi to shoot a roll of 400h. The burger, by all descriptions should have been delicious but was found to be lacking, a cold edible from the home fridge proves more satisfying. Rolleicord replacement arrived while out, in much better condition than the original on initial inspection. Shutter knob is merely bent instead of missing and infinity focus shows signs of adjustment. Autocordfags on suicide watch. Focus is in question, shutter speed tests forthcoming beforehand. Spend at least 180 bux on any worthwhile budget tlr is my initial impression.

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>>3949329
LED is new territory for film dev, the rest I naturally assumed as I bought it for the color head (not pictured because it doesn't fucking work for reasons mentioned) so I wouldn't have to fuck with contrast filters and you didn't post a temperature controlled sink setup. Color film development is a nightmare, the way an enlarger is a nightmare for everyone but like 4 of us and a namefag.
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>>3949524
Since you've got a Gossen meter: Are the spot metering attachments compatible across the luna pro line?
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>>3949268
Pretty based if true, you can act like youre a reporter in vietnam with trix in metal canisters with a nikon and birth control glasses
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>>3949527
Never even thought of using one and mine is old. I couldn't tell you. I just walk around with it checking ambient and incident when needed and eyeball things against nearby objects that I can't get to.
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>>3949294
CMS 20 beats my of 120 pretty easily in resolution. Would love to try and enlarge it, it just seems theres infinite resolution on those.

It still looks better at 200% zoom than regular BW stock at 100%, I would have zero problems printing 5300 dpi scans at 1,5 meters wide, because of the lsck of grain itll look just as good. You can sharpen the hell out of it too. But also makes enlarging very difficult since theres no grain to focus.

Interestingly, I still think PanF 50 "feels" sharper as actual photos, CMS 20 just enlarges really well.
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>>3949527
>Are the spot metering attachments compatible across the luna pro line?
Nah they have two ranges, one range is with contacts and takes separate accessories, the other range is without contacts and just mounts on physically.
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>>3949524
I need some focus testing apparati. A depth gauge with the aperture wide open should be sufficient, right? I'd rather send it for maintenance with some basic instructions, if needed. I love these little fuckers.

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>>3949540
You can also just use an artifact of choice and a measuring tape. With a big ol' focusing screen, you shouldn't have to take a picture to confirm that focus happens when the lens scale says it should.

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>>3949551
I...can't do that again.
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>>3949557
I'm afraid I'm not connecting the dots.
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>>3949526
Luckily the halogen bulb is supposedly intact.

Gonna order the transformer tonight, and Im gonna follow Ribsy's jobotank method which seems pretty straightforward.

Or this whole project is insane. It's already ballooned by several hundred dollars more than I originally intended hahaha
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>>3949536
Thanks. Guess I'll buy the meter first and research heavily to find the attachment to match it.
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>tfw no lab to process negatives within 200 km
how difficult is it actually to process 135 color film like kodak ektar 100 at home?
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>>3949629
Sous vide heaters help regulate the temperature of a water bath well enough for C41.
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>>3949629
Very easy. Like the anon said, sous vide circulstor makes it very easy.if youvdont have that, heat up a water bath to around 2x as hot as your dev temp and let it cool down to where you want it. The temp should keep stable enough for a dev.
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>>3949629
very easy, and it doesn't take much time.

the time consuming part is scanning.
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Could you guys recommend me an automatic film camera that doesn't have a hipster tax?

I am asking because I gifted someone a Pentax PC35AF. Should I just get that again?
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>>3949707
Literally any thrift store have old auto soap-shaped cameras, go get one of them.
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>>3949708
I do check thrift stores often but never seem to come across anything.
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>>3949629
It's easy but also a pain in the ass...especially compared to how little time/effort and forward planning developing bw takes. I can decide to develop some rolls of bw and have them hung to dry 20 minutes later and not be worried about chemical shelf life. With color, it takes about an hour to do a single round after accounting for heating up chems.

>Need to bring chems to temp which takes time
>Need to agitate every 15s for 20-25 minutes total
>Need to use chems relatively quickly (a few months max) before they go bad

So ya, it's not harder but it's not as spur of the moment, easy going as bw is.
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Is a grain focuser necessary for a dark room? Can I just use a normal magnifying glass?
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>>3949721
No, and yes. I've got one, wanted one to figure out how much I should shim my printing surface because the enlarger is autocalibrating for the lens it came with, but can't use it for the bloody life of me. I just see a blurry bright spot in there. No use at all. Prints come out as well as you'd expect given the low-fi Soviet enlarger (albeit an export model), so haven't really needed it either.
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>>3949721
>Pays for film
>Pays for paper
>Pays for chemicals
>Pays for enlarging equipment
>Pays in time spent dialing in a print
>Doesn't want to pay $20 to get prints in focus
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>>3949631
>>3949656
>>3949706
>>3949716
interesting, thanks
too bad about the short shelf life
how long can i store exposed rolls of film before processing?
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>>3949750
I'm buying it dummy, I was just wondering whether I will need it right away since I'm not getting it right away with the lab stuff I'm ordering.
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>>3949757
You absolutely need it, especially if you do any perspective corrections.
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>>3949758
k I'll grab it when ordering fresh chems.
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>>3949752
>how long can i store exposed rolls of film before processing?

Months, no problem. This is how I've been doing it for the past 5 years of doing my own color dev. I build a backlog of rolls and then crush them in one go...but not going to lie, it's become a real drag doing this. Waiting so long between shooting and reviewing just makes me so apathetic to the whole process...especially since developing 12+ rolls in a single sitting is extremely monotonous. 3+ hours of agitating every 15s is a terrible way to spend an afternoon.
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>>3949766
Exposed film degrades after a while. I've never found a clear answer on how long, but I know monochrome starts going off within a year. Building a dip tank for multiple reels could be overkill or exactly what you need. Something you can load and use all the developer in one go.
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>>3949766
alright, good to know
maybe its possible to build some contraption to agitate automatically
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>>3949790
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002745659835.html
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superia 400
or maybe ektar 100

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>>3949790
That's basically what a dip and dunk machine does.
>Just use an arduino and a stepper shield.
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same?

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drunk/hungover

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>>3949561
I know the focus is off, it's reading 3 feet at 4 feet and infinity is completely wrong and not hitting the stop where it should. I'm shooting a roll to see if the lenses are at least synched and don't have astigmatism. How much is a CLA these days? I already have most of the tools to do it but thankfully the focus was dead on balls accurate the last time around. G*rman engineering drives a man to drink and synchronizing two lenses without an optical bench and the variety of shims needed, while using homemade ground glass---I don't know if I have the fortitude. But also, fuck spending 700 dollars on a CLA.
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>>3949789
>>3949790
I mean I could get a JOBO ($1k+) but that's just another expense for an already expensive and tedious hobby. That aliexpress thing won't do anything to help with temp stabilization, so not usable for color.
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>>3949716
The process I currently do is 3,5 minutes with 4 inversions every 30 seconds and 8 minutes blix. What kind of process takes 20 minutes and every 15 sec? Sounds cray.
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>>3949814
Get a big plastic box (e.g. Ikea). Put a cheap sous-vide machine in it. Float chemical bottles and dev tank in water in box at required temperature. Put tank-turning aliexpress thing upside-down over tank (so that bouyancy is pushing it up into the rollers rather than gravity pulling it down onto them).
You now have a cheap, temperature controlled, agitation controlled dev system. You still need to pour them chemicals yourself but the rest is automated.
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>>3949814
You dont need a Jobo. Sous vide for temp control, and a paterson tank is fine.
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>>3949815
>What kind of process takes 20 minutes and every 15 sec? Sounds cray.
6 bath E6.
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>>3949818
Try out the new Cs6 process, its 3 bath E6 equivalent but you get either 4 extra stops of latitude or tungsten balance or warming effect for overcast.
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>>3949794
Not ektar
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>>3949795
Ive actually been thining about making an automatic dip tank I can control from my phone with one of those smart blinds for windows from ikea or wherever. Costs around 100 bucks, and its pretty much ready out of the box. You can set them to rise and fall automatically at different intervals with an app. I'm thinking setting it inside a light sealed cabinet with a letterbox shaped tank to dip into.

Make it detachable and you can also use it as actual blinds too.
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>>3949815
Tetenal e6 and c41. The time increases as you do more rolls.
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>>3949844
A stand developer, then.
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>>3949528
Does a contax G1 in wine country count?
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bad scans but 50mm 3:1 panorama crop kodak 400tmax

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Wondering if Leica film bodies will drop again feels like wondering if home prices will fall. I miss my old M2 and Zeiss glass

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>>3949793
cool shit, but looks like it doesnt do temperature control out of the box so its a no-go for color
>>3949816
not a bad idea
i wonder if if you would get sufficient friction by buoyancy alone, or if you would need to extend the contraption with some rolling wheels that are submerged...
>>3949814
JOBO costs closer to €1500 in my country, so its out of the question...
>>3949832
thats pretty smart
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>>3949892
Based, fuck Tri-X the crutch
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>>3949946
Pair with a sous vide
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>>3949991
...and how do you plan to do that? You can't submerge that thing in water.
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>>3950045
Put it on the side of the tank
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>>3949869
That's hot
What camera is it? Post some shots you've taken
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>>3948648
Mamiya lenses love the fungus m8, this is standard, but the upside is they are so easy to service. honestly order a lens spanner off ebay and pull it apart to clean, hopefully the coatings aren't too badly etched. I bought a whole kit off a dude with like 6 lenses, every one had fungus like this, spent an afternoon dismantling, cleaning and putting it back and now they're mint. Turned an $800 kit into a $3000 one with a $10 lens spanner and about the same in optic wipes.
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>>3949892
>>3949895
Yeah now take one of the rear strut towers you monumental faglord.
These scans, but especially these crops, are absolutely sickening.
You don't achieve the
>cinematic
meme by throwing away half of your original photo, you fuckwit. You need to frame for the intended aspect.
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>>3950174
Truth all my mamiya 645 glass has a little fungus in it.
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>>3949307
>>3949328
What the fuck is wrong with you kids? Be a fucking man and put your exposed film in m&m minis containers. Cheap film containers and free fucking candy. Plus, king size holds two rolls and gives more chocolate.
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>>3950185
Wtf are m&m minis, all ive ever seen are the regular ones in bags
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>>3950188
Just smaller m&ms. But the tube nicely fits a roll of 120 or 220 film. Or 2 rolls if king size.
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>>3950175
you're trying way too hard

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>>3950185
>Be a fucking man
>m&m minis containers
no trolling outside /b/
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>>3950201
interesting idea but i can't buy that on moral grounds because its poison
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>>3949307
Just put it back in the box it came in
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>>3950281
Everything is poison in high enough quantities. And nothing is in low enough quantities.
Calling sugary sweets poison is hyperbole.

>>3950185
>>3950201
>>3950279
>>3950281
> using plastic containers
Shiiggy. The future is cardboard Smarties tubes.
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>>3950286
>sugary sweets
that's not what this is. this is poison
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you can buy this dickweed garbage on amazon but i think tubes would be more space efficient
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>>3949707
I like my Ricoh FF3. Was 1 yen off Y!JP.
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>>3948602
get a spotmatic.

probably the best lineup of lenses, and probably the best camera for that lineup.
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>>3948580
>Fuji C200 36 for 5.90€ in my local shop
i don't feel so good, filmbros...
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>>3950287
If those tubes were available at the same price without the candies you cant resist youd buy it
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>>3948580

Why do most sites suggest rodinal 1:100 to be for 1h? I tried it out and 19min looks exactly the same.
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>>3950451
They will be referring to stand development, where you agitate for 1 min, then leave it alone for ~59min.

There's a lot of info out there about stand development and the pros and cons but the tl;dr is you get finer grain, lower contrast and under/overexposed shots tend to even out.

Although if you get good results from longer normal development with 1:100 then that's totally fine as well, with the bonus of using less developer.
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>>3950451
The 80:20 rule is in effect. No one actually knows how rodinal stand development works, but 80% of the development is finished in the first few minutes and the rest is believed to be a process involving the metabisulfite and a mostly exhausted catalyst that does what anon says. You won't notice a difference unless you compare with standard development and have a lot of photos with high contrast and questionable exposures.
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My old Flektogon 35mm f/2.8 does this weird thing where the aperture selection ring moves together with the focusing ring - at infinty focus the lens is wide open at f/2.8, but by the time I get to the nearest focus (18 cm), the aperture ring has shifted to f/4, but the lens remains fully open?

sounds like some really weird mechanical shenanigans are going on, could it be because of dried up lubes?
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>>3950462
I mean I did a stand dev. Agitation for first 30 sec then leave it alone for 19min. Try it out, I promise it looks the same.
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>>3950477
What speed? 20 minutes is fine doing stand at 100 but 1600 takes 3 hours.
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Why is there no instax film back for rolleiflex tlr cameras guys ?
i just jewgled and no results :C
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>>3950494
because you can't change the backs
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>>3950497
You can remove rolleiflex backs and use a rolleiflex plate back for example.
There's a guy who modified a instax back for the 2,8 backs allready
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>>3950481
Ive tried both 100 speed and 400. 400 with one inversion at 10 minutes for good measure, not sure if its even needed.
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Looking to buy 110 film, is it only available online at this point or would a local shop have it? Brands to watch out for?

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>>3950172
It's a Shen Hao with a 6x17 back. Just picked it up, starting to shoot now. I'm actually ditching my Linhof 617 for this so wRAAGe'll see what happens.
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>>3950522
Same setup as Nick Carver, right? Looks great, excited to see
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>>3950524
Not familiar with him, but I'm pretty happy with the whole thing. I was getting ready to pull the trigger on a 617 SIII when I saw this on Craigslist. 500 bucks beats 15k
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>>3950521
ya only get lomo stuff
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>>3950531
Check him out on youtube. Fantastic photographer who does a lot of work in 6x17 with the same camera. https://www.youtube.com/c/nickcarverphoto
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>>3950553
Appreciate it bud!
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>>3950553
>Shooting fog with an orange filter on bw
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Whats a good focal length for taking landscape photos? This was on a 50mm. Kodak gold.

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Same with this one. I'm pretty new at this. These are from my first couple rolls developed.

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TLRs are a 50, it's all about framing.

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>>3950521
Some local shops near me have lomogaphy 110 film. It will depend on where you live.
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>>3950640
>>3950643
these are pretty nice.

landscape photographers usually go for wider focal lenghts, 35mm, 28mm, etc., but this works too.
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>>3950640
Usually wider, 24-35mm, but then again you can get great effects shooting landscapes with a telephoto lens that compresses space. As usual, the answer is ‘depends’. And in these photos you posted the flat lighting is more of an issue than the lens
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>>3950449
if they were available at a higher cost than the candy, i would buy it.
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>>3950449
>>3950288
>>3950286
>>3950281
>>3950201
>>3949307
why in the woman-retardant fuck does 35mm come in a plastic tube AND an idiot-proof metal canister, but 120 film comes in a roll with some tape, and a fucking little bag that you tear in half? why don't you get a tube with 120, and a fatass bag-shaped piece of garbage with 135 instead? fuck you
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>>3950743
Because real men know how to handle real film
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>>3950743
Because 135 film was made to be easy for consumers to load as rollfilm is much fiddlier.
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>>3950746
what
>>3950744
why
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>>3950758
120 was invented in 1901. 135 was invented much later and thus had some design improvements in usability.
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>>3950758
What are you having trouble understanding little boy?
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>>3950721
>>3950727
Got any lens recommendations for getting sharp landscape photos then? I think my lens works a lot better close up than far away. Im using a nikon fg.

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>>3950766
>design improvements
including a plastic tube? they could do that with 120 right now.
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>Panorama Wide Pic I A 5£ Hasselblad XPAN alternative?
https://www.35mmc.com/26/02/2021/panorama-wide-pic-review/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYeZnYP4OLI
interesting
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>>3950791
This is only an issue for you anon
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>>3950781
That one's soft and shaky so assuming your lens is fine, you need a tripod, an aperture ideally between f/8 and f/16, and to use the scale on the lens to put infinity within the focal range of your f/stop and make sure your subject is also in that range. That clears up most problems and keeps the background in focus. If you don't have a tripod, git gud at holding steady and not shaking the camera when you hit the shutter button.
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>>3950811
My lens doesnt have a scale but I guess ill buy a tripod.
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>>3950810
>This is only an issue for you anon
im a cave man. i toss shit in my cave bag and let it fall to the bottom all the time. it would get fucked
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>>3950822
Again, a you issue.
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found an asahi pentax k1000 with a 50mm prime lens and a minolta hi-matic af2 point and shoot that i bought at a thrift shop a decade ago in a shoebox along with a bunch of unshot rolls of film. are these good cameras? the film expired in 2018. is this a problem?
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>>3950743
35mm film was originally made for motion pictures. The first 35mm cameras had to be loaded with bulk film in a darkroom. Leica introduced the refillable 35mm cassette, and the Kodak invented the disposable 35mm cartridge. The sprocket holes intended for motion picture cameras made film take-up and advance easier than with medium format.
70mm motion picture film has sprockets, but the format was never widely adopted for still cameras. The US space program used to use Hasselblads with 70mm film backs.

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>>3950643
This one is nice.

>>3950781
This one is wonderful as well. Upon zooming in I notice the scan is pretty pixelated looking though, any idea what's up with that?

>>3950860
The Pentax K1000 is a nice solid camera. I haven't been around a hi-matic but having a point and shoot is great because you can take it with you easily. Looks like you've got some good cameras. Consumer film is pretty stable, it might not be perfect but it's only a couple years expired, people shoot film that's way older anyway. I'd just shoot it and see what it's like. It's free film, after all.
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>>3950863
IIRC the 70mm film they used was sprocketless and extra thin
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>>3950743
35mm needs all that because it doesnt have backing paper
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>>3950911
Im not sure whats up with the scans. They came exactly as I posted them. Ill ask the photo developing place if I can get them in a lossless format next time but I dont know how much that will help.

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>>3950937
overall the scans look fine, I think, and the picture looks great. It's just that when I zoomed in, I noticed it looked pixelated. Maybe even they blew out the sky when scanning, I could be wrong so someone feel free to correct me.

Go ahead, zoom in on where the foliage overlaps the sky and you'll see the pixelation I mean. I don't know what could exactly cause it, but it's there. maybe the color bit depth is too low? I have no idea.
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>>3950951
I could be wrong but that pixelation where foliage meets the sky is I think from artifacting due to it being a jpg.

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>>3950860
Those are both excellent within reason and the film will be a little off but mostly fine. Pentax lenses are something special and there aren't many bad vintage ones on that mount. You can also get an m42 adapter for a dollar and use old Soviet glass.
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>>3950918
it already has a canister it doesn't need a tube
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>>3950831
yes well this post is about me isn't it
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>>3948580
Does anyone have one of these? How are they for scanning film? Apparently the lens inside them is around f/16 so it would be hard for them to screw it up too much, but would you see diffraction on a 24mp sensor?
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can someone explain to me in the most simple way possible how LTM and M39 are different and how to recognize them ?

I bought a Zorki4k and I'd like to get more lenses for it, but it seems really hard to understand which are actually compatible since both terms are seemingly used interchangeably.
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>>3950993
from what i've heard they suck anon, they cost as much as a good scanner anyways
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>>3951044
agree that they suck. I have one and it's unsharp at the borders even on crop.
But they cost like 30-50€ on ebay, where can you get a good scanner for that money?
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>>3951046
pre-owned dedicated film scanners or any scanner if it is capable of real 2700dpi scans.
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>>3951038
They use the same mount, but the rangefinder calibration is slightly different for FSU lenses, so focus can be off if DOF is really narrow and you’re using a Russian lens on a Leica or Canon or vice versa.
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>>3951094
I thought the threads weren't the same ?

so I should be fine if I stick to Russian lenses on my Zorki. but then I can't use those on LTM mount cameras ?
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>>3951094
>rangefinder calibration is slightly different for FSU lenses,
No it's not. There were FSU lenses hand-fitted to a certain FED/Zorki body, but those are rare in and of themselves, and you'll know you have one from also likely having the corresponding body. Otherwise LTM = m39 thread with RF coupling. There are also m39 thread-mounted lenses for certain early FSU SLRs, and those are both for a SLR's flange-to-focal distance and don't have a RF coupling.
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What do you guys clean the outside of your cameras with? I usually use a microfiber cloth that’s a little damp but sometimes a wet wipe just because it gets so dirty/greasy.
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>>3951162
you just answered your own question. I use compressed air from a distance on the outside of the camera. I use an air rocket on the lens close up for any debris that might be stuck there. Only then do I attempt to clean with a wet wipe that's good for coated lenses.
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>>3951163
No no not lenses i’m talking about just the body. The microfiber is fine but doesn’t seem to do much and any moistened towelette leaves a residue. I would use an alcohol swab but I feel like that’s too abrasive.
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>>3951164
my comment still stands, moistened towelette shouldn't leave residue. if it leaves fibers just blow them away with compressed air.

Alternatively just wash your camera, use the faucet.
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>>3951152
These are good pictures but there's something about the scan processing i don't like. I don't know if its denoising or some sharpness thing
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>>3951173
No denoise done. I turned up sharpness by like 2%. I don't like saturation on the last one. Maybe I'll reduce it from 15 to 5ish.
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can anybody recommend a battery for a spotmatic?
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Would it be possible to create a colour photo with B&W film if I mount the camera on a tripod and take three photos through red, green and blue filters and combine the scanned images into one?

>>3951175
Maybe a V394/SR45 silver-oxide battery?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentax_Spotmatic#History
>Mercury battery (1.35 V Mallory RM640) was used to power the light metering system; however due to the way the circuit is designed, silver oxide batteries can be used instead.
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>>3951205
>Would it be possible to create a colour photo with B&W film if I mount the camera on a tripod and take three photos through red, green and blue filters and combine the scanned images into one?
trichromy
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>>3951175
An Energizer 387S 1.55V cell battery will do the trick
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Anyone recommend camera scanning at home? It seems like a good alternative to giving the lab all my money

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>>3951222
Literally the best way to digitize film without forking over thousands of dollars for a scanner capable of resolving grain.

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>>3951224
Cheers, & nice shot
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>>3950390
great film though?
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>>3951038
LTM/L39/Leics Screw = 39mm diameter thread mount with Whitworth microscope threads, for rangefinders (Leice, Fed/Zorki, etc). Pre-war Soviet cameras had a slightly different flange focal distance, post-war cameras matched Leica's FFD.

M39 = 39mm diameter mount used for some soviet SLRs. Completely different flange focal distance, lenses are not interchangeable with L39.
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I want to buy my friend a photography book, preferably something of the human figure, because thats what I love, but I'd rather go for value than preference.


Are there any widely prefered recomendations?
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Is there such thing as an auto matic flash for film cameras? I would like a hot shoe mounted one with a swivel so I could bounce it off the ceiling and stuff. Got a pentax me and a nikon fe if it matters.

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>>3951280
I guess my best bet would be a light meter that could take a flash reading

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>>3951205
Yes, google Prokudin Gorskii
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Easiest way to get started with fisheye lenses for canon FD mount slr? Is the chink shit on ebay any good I dont wannt spend a grand on it
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>>3951280
>Is there such thing as an auto matic flash for film cameras?
Yes, TTL flash predates digital photography.
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>>3951280
It's called an auto-thyristor. No TTL but you don't need it if you know what you're doing.
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alright so im using the cinestill c-41 kit... not very well as you can see

What the hell is in that rinse agent (third bath)?

Can I wash with distilled water after it? these water marks are insane....
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I got my hands on a plastic lens hood for my canon 50mm f/1.8 and f/1.4 but as with most plastic lens hoods it doesn't really stay in place all that well. Is there any trick with which I can improve this? The "threading" is probably also a bit loose.
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>>3951268
so I should be fine, gotcha
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>>3951276
Trent Parke - Minutes to Midnight
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>>3951349
Zenitar 16mm 2.8 with FD adapter is actually quite decent...especially if you're stopping down.
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>>3951365
Stop living in a shit country with contaminated water.
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>>3951385
Thanks anon
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What the fuck is causing this? The edges of the film strip are exposed way more than the middle. What the fuck?

>Fomapan 100. Shot at box speed.
>Rodinal 1:50 for 8:30, standard agitation.

You can see the effect in the negative. It runs all the way down the entire strip. The edges of the film are developed more than the middle.

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Anyone got experience with pushing Agfa apx 400 to 3200?
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>>3951365
Are you using photo-flo? You better be.
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>>3951366
Maybe some nylon tape over the threads on the lens?

>>3951405
Do you think it could be your camera shutter? Someone else ought to chime in.
Were you doing twist agitation or what? The first time I developed I didn't get problems like this, I did twist agitation and inverted the tank a couple times as well. I had no development problems, although I did have light leaks from the camera.
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>>3951472
Nylon tape... Sounds good actually! I might try that. I'll probably apply it to the hood instead of the lens - seems to make a tad more sense. Thanks, anon!
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>>3951280
Get a nikon SB. You put in your aperture and iso and it give you back a good exposure.
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>>3948602
Praktica MTL3 or MTL 5 or MTL5b or MTL50 are my favorite beginner film cameras.
Fully mechanical, M42 mount, absurdly reliable.
A good one goes for around 50 with a Pentacon 50mm f1.8 lens.
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so Clinton killed 1.35v mercury batteries but I can buy these 625 weincell batteries and they’ll work the same?
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>>3951472
>Do you think it could be your camera shutter?
no. shutter sticking would have less exposure around the edges (not more) and would probably be inconsistent across frames
>Were you doing twist agitation or what? The first time I developed I didn't get problems like this, I did twist agitation and inverted the tank a couple times as well. I had no development problems
im using the twister stick, yea. continuous agitation for the first minute, and then 6 or so seconds once a minute thereafter. i wonder if this is too much agitation? i can't imagine it creating this effect though
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>>3951482
yeah and i kept getting banned for posting threads to share and discuss the work of other photographers
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>>3948905
When will you learn /p/ judges the technical side of things rather than the artistical or photographic side?
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>>3951486
Pretty much. The form factor is wildly different so you either have to buy an adapter or build something yourself. I'm using wein cells in my Petri computor and canon ftb.
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>>3951492
You would almost have a point if he didn’t immediately respond with another shot that he thought was sharper, but wasn’t. You think it was his artistic intention to have a missed focus scan?
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>>3951495
But then they only last 2 months? I might just look into getting this autoreflex adapted to 1.5v I wanna be lazy and use the autoexposure.
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>>3951501
Well that depends on how well the battery compartment is sealed off. In my computor ii they get drained really really fast. Probably also because I use a fidgety setup with tinfoil and rubber... In my ftb they last a very long time. I also don't need to do any tweeks for my ftb because the battery compartment cover pressed the wein cell snuggly against the battery terminal. Wein cells are also really cheap so...
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Reposting this one from a few years ago. Shot on Fuji superia 400 with Spotmatic and 50mm Super-Takumar.

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>>3951506
ok
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>>3951488
The only thing I can think of would be that the twist agitation somehow caused it. It looks like the edges near the sprocket holes were developed more compared to the middle. My explanation might be that if you only did twist agitation, well, the film is moving back and forth, probably not up and down depending on the exact design of your tank. Some tanks have cams that will agitate the film reels up and down as you rotate, some don't.

I think that turbulence caused by the sprocket holes moving through the developer solution caused developer to be replenished faster near the sprocket holes of the film, and the film in the middle didn't get this effect as much. I'm not sure but this would be my guess, and I would also guess that if you simply added an inversion or two to your developing process, you wouldn't have this issue.
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>>3951481
Gold 200 pushed to 800 for the animal thread anon.

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>>3951527
Didn't do much touching up on these because they are pictures of nothing.

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>>3951506
what's wrong with your scan
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>>3951488
>shutter sticking
Shutters can leak light, too. A shutter that does not fully seat at one end of travel (or hangs up at end of travel) could easily cause partial overexposure.
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>Velvia 50 sheet film discontinued
FUCKING PISS CUNTING SHIT BALLS
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>>3951607
Rolls kill within 2 years
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Do teleconverters work well at all?
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>>3951628
Modern ones reasonably well
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>>3951634
What about old ones?
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>>3951643
>>3951634
Seconded. Thinking about getting the FD 2x converter to make a 100mm equiv lens out of my 50mm f/1.4.
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>>3951628
>>3951652
There's no magic to them. You lose some EV (e.g. 1 stop with a 1.4x converter, 2 stops for a 2x, etc) and the effective MTF of the lens is reduced (because you're blowing up a small patch of the image circle to cover the whole film/sensor). TANSTAAFL applies.
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>>3951652
For FD specifically, there are plenty of 100mm range FD lenses to be had for the cost of a teleconverter, and of roughly the same size, which will give a superior image to a 2x converted 50mm (100mm f2.8 eqiv.).
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>>3951527
looks quite nice for gold 200.
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>>3951478
Also consider Revue ML, same camera as MTL 5 but usually cheaper (and uglier)
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>>3951509
>Some tanks have cams that will agitate the film reels up and down as you rotate, some don't.
this one does, yea.

im going to try again using inversions
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>>3951588
focal plane shutters usually run horizontally, i think? so there would be weird vertical lines across the image if it were sitting landscape. i have a camera like that and i actually don't mind those leaks as much. also this camera has a leaf shutter, so i don't know exactly what the leak pattern would look like, but it probably wouldn't look like this, and it probably wouldn't be so consistent across the strip
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>>3951588
>>3951509
also i should probably mention that the effect is more pronounced with Rodinal. its present with D-76, but not nearly as much.
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if the chemicals were old, i don't see why this would happen. if elements in the chemical floated to the bottom between actuations, you wouldn't see this band it would be more like a gradient. i don't understand how acutation would cause this, but im at a loss as to what else it could be.
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>>3948580

Guys, I just bought a Noblex. The big one. I know I'm a dum dum but Ive been looking for a panoramic system for years. I cropping 6x9 frames, 6x12 backs on a 4x5, but neither felt dramatic in the way swing lens cameras do. Also, the ability to shoot what is essentially large format size handheld seems neat. Not that Im gonna do it very much. And yes, I admit, I wanted a camera that makes photos look different than others. All conventional systems make photos still look the same regardless of frame size and Ive got plenty of MF systems with conventional optics already.

Anyone have any experience with a swing scan system?
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So, I have three rolls of film I would like to develop. I have never done this before.

Have people here used State Film Lab? Their digital contact sheets look good, so I think I will go with them.

Is it worthwhile to pay more for 6500×4250 resolution instead of 3000×2000?
Would it also be worthwhile to pay more for tonality corrections or is that what everyone just does in lightroom?

t. film noob, t-thanks
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>>3951790
Even if they were old they'd be shaken up once you pour them into the tank. I really can't come up with anything other than turbulence caused by the sprocket holes, but the guy said his tank has those cams that are supposed to move the reels up and down as you twist. Which should fix this problem, but who knows.

>>3951789
Well Rodinal works differently, right? I'm really curious to see how it turns out with inversions added.
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New Thread.

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>>3951855
Don’t pay for any lab corrections but do pay for the higher quality scans. Unless you just have like 3 point and shoot rolls of friends you just wanna put up on Instagram, then the cheaper scans are fine.





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