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Talk about gear, safespace etc etc etc
i just wanna get my hands on that fool frame already so i can ditch the heavy fucking speed booster meme
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>>3890769
>full frame
yikes you sure you don't wanna HALVE THAT, anon?????
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>digital in 2021
lmao, I don't even own a computer
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>>3890771
Film chads we own this fucking thread now
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>>3890771
I mean, i shoot primarily film so...
half frame cams are cool, i just never got around to buying one because the less frames, the quicker the turnaround, and i like that.

>>3890772
bro u at the library?
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>>3890769
There's already two other gear threads faggot.
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>>3890785
one is at the bump limit and the other one is for film gear or something, i don't exclude, i include
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>>3890789
You're not just a spammer but one that's full of shit, I hope the mods ban your retarded ass.
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>>3890795
rude?
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You can have one of these future features, choose/explain/enhance:
>Voice controlled gear
>AR/Remote control
>Starlink wifi storage
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>>3890803
None of them because i'm a luddite who don't wanna do anything except catch photons
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>>3890803
The things you describe are nightmare bullshit things. I don't even want a fucking meter.
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>>3890798
Not as rude as killing a photography thread to post a duplicate gear thread, off yourself.
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>>3890806
oops, guess you should have bumped that thread then if you liked it that much?

hold on i'll start a thread to make up for this one
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>>3890769
>z6
You will not be disappoint
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looking to upgrade been looking at the x-t4 or should i go FF?

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>>3890816
what do you have?
personally i feel like the xt4 is a bit of a scam if you liked the previous XT series of cameras as it focuses more on video than photography

if you do video however, go for it, fujis make hella nice video
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>>3890821
currently been using a mix of an old canon a-1 with a 50mm (rarely because of film costs), my phone and some canon thing that used to be my sisters with built in telephoto. it sucks ass but i can take pictures of birds with it.
id use a new body for everything photo video etc cost isnt a huge issue but i wouldnt go anymore expensive than an x-t4.
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>>3890816
although i have an xh1 and xt4, if i was sufficiently memed into going fool frame, i'd be going nikon z5/z6/7, if only for the fucking incredible 50mm f/1.8.
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>>3890830
honestly, go with any interchangeable lens camera made in the last 6 years and you'll probably be happy.

XT1/2/3/4 are all good
Canon 200D is good
Olympus omd em1 mark ii is good

Buy used, buying new sucks because you're tanking all that loss of resale value.
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>>3890832
I just played around with FF for the first time myself, got an S5 with the 50mm f/1.4 HSM ART but... I also stupidly got an M-L Adapter and stuck a Voigtlander 50 APO on it for shits and giggles.
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>>3890832
oh i didnt see this before i posted, go Z6 like i am lol
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>>3890805
>>3890804
This.
What the fuck am I supposed to do with any of that?
I just want a camera that does regular camera stuff.
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>>3890846
to expand on this
wouldn't it be awesome if there was an SLR with a manually cocking shutter a-la the Epson R-D1 that did nothing else than capture your image except maybe meter your light and was the size of a Nikon F3 or a Canon AE-1
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>>3890832
you ever find situations your xt4 really struggles with? i read the autofocus is a bit inconsistent has that improved with firmware?
>>3890836
id love to buy used but the market in nz is tiny and the mirrorless one is even smaller, so im pretty much forced to go new sadly

i dont need a body thats the best just one thats good enough at mostly everything and isnt too heavy which is why i was looking at apsc. 3/4's seems a bit too compromised for me.
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>>3890852
Go and touch a bunch of cams at your local big box store, see which one you like the feel of the most, look up some picture comparisons online (most of them are gonna be very similar) and then look at the lens lineup

after all that, you're probably ready to select the cam that fits you the best
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>>3890816
I’m the dude that traded his Z6 for an X-T4. Unless you’re really into video, the Z6 is just plain better for stills. Amazing ergonomics and control layout, snappy AF, absolutely mint primes, way better white balance and colors in RAW.

Z fucking rules as all-rounders. Fuji excels at their affordable compact stuff (x-e4 and x-s10) and the high end street specialty stuff (x100v and x-pro3).

Only look at X-Ts if you’re gonna get a used X-T2 as they’re super cheap right now. F2 primes are great for an all-round nice compact and affordable kit.

I miss my Z bros.

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Used Nikon D40 for 140 worth getting?
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>>3890874
This makes me more confident in my decision to move from the XT2 to the Z6

Thank you.
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>>3890891
Why did you deny making the previous thread and tried to pin it on a troll? Afraid of what your fellow fujislugs may think?
PS: Z6 or no Z6 you'll always be a fujislug. It's a mindset.
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>>3890895
>fujislug
Oh this guy again. You ever find the EXIF data for the only photo you’ve ever posted?
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>>3890898
Xe makes me want to shoot Fuji. Have we considered that xe is a Fuji rep?
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>>3890895
Deny??? I totes made the previous thread, what are you on about?
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I'm looking for a canon fullframe wide angle lens. Don't neccessarily need af, around 12-16mm range with ability for filters.
I'm only finding bulging front elements..
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>>3890958
Haida rear filter kit with Samyang 14mm? I know it has awful moustache distortion despite being very sharp. Theres 3 versions of it on canon EF iirc, and one of them is better than the other three.

The new 18mm (not sure if on EF) is even better with no weird distortion.

Laowa 12mm 2.8 zeroD can take their 100mm filters.

I had a sigma 12-24mm back In the day. Which was definitely not sharp at any aperture. But it has a slot for rear gel filters. The new version is supposed to good/sharp.
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>>3890832
>>3890841
>>3890874
whats the autofocus on the z6 like id love to take more animal and bird photos
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>>3890898
Dumbass Fujislug thinks I'm up and posting at 5am. Lmao.
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anyone ever rent gear online?
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>>3890958
Older Sigma 10-20 EX DC HSM comes in an EF mount version and can take 77mm filters but its somewhat soft
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>>3890971
>>3891158
Thanks, I'll check these out.
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My next camera is going to be a z mount, just hope nikon doesn't die.
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>>3891158
This one vignetted heavily even at 20mm sadly.

>>3890971
The laowa is the only one with the ability to use filters with an adapter.
Could diy that myself I guess for the others.
Will probably go for the samyang 18/2.8 because it's cheap and has a filter.

Real jelly of the laowa 9mm for apsc now.
Wide angles for ff fucking sucks.
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>>3890975
>what’s the AF like?

Quicker than anything that isn’t Sony or Canon. I don’t go birding so I can’t say for sure but it’s definitely better than Fuji or Olly in subject tracking or single point.
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Why do I see fs7 users with the sigma 18-35? It's not meant for fullframe.
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dot
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>>3891231
Laowa has a 14mm for FF too lol
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>>3891287
Should've mentioned ef mount.
Why doesn't it exist for ef..?
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Is making shitty duplicate threads a crutch?
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>>3891287
but is it any good
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Nikon Coolpix A? Thoughts
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>>3891231
The 18mm is only for Sony I think, it’s extraordinarily good.
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>>3891526
Yes. Laowa make some high IQ lenses.
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>>3890887
Absolutely not. Get a D3100/D3200 instead
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>>3891559
but is this one any good?
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Got to say, Z6 is one of the more appealing ways to full frame. It's like A7iii but with less demand and does not have a fucking Sony firmware.
It has few lenses, but at least one of them is a good kit standard zoom.
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Can someone talk me out of buying a Mir-1 and leaving this lens at the local thrift store?

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Should I buy Nikon 55-200mm f/4-5.6G with the price tag of ~120$ for my D5000?

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>>3892391
Yes, I have it and for the money it is sharp if you stop down to f/8. The only focal length it is a bit soft at is the 200mm end.

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Why are there so few 28mm prime lenses for mirrorless cameras to choose from? Sony only makes 1 which isn't very good. Sigma makes one that is a big and heavy f/1.4 and Leica makes them. But the Leica ones are really expensive.
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>>3892403
Because it's the phone length
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>>3892403
Doesn't leica sell a good 28mm lens with a camera permanently attached to it
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>>3892403
>Why are there so few 28mm prime lenses for mirrorless cameras to choose from?
At a wild pulled-out-of-my-ass guess, I'd suspect that 28mm isn't as popular these days for meme reasons.

I.e., when people are going for wide these days, they're going for *extreme* wide. Ultrawide lenses used to be a lot more rare and expensive, so 28mm was about as wide as most systems went (to the extent that Leica bodies didn't even have 28mm framelines at first, and they still don't have anything wider than that). And now that cellphones usually ship with lenses in the ~28mm-equivalent range, that sort of focal length is becoming associated more with cheap photography than aspirational photography.

I know that Samyang makes a 24mm f/2.8 for E mount (and, in fact, I have one right in front of my face right now). 24mm isn't *that* much different from 28mm in practice. Maybe try that?

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>>3892403
Honestly, I have a hard time finding reason to use my 28mm lenses. I like being able to isolate the subject from its context in some way, and it's hard to do that with a wide-angle lens.
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Not made in Japan?

Not even considering it.
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>>3891285
FS7 is Super 35, not full frame.
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>>3892485
all the electronics are made in china anyway, it's all just assembled in japan
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>>3892516
I thought it was a meme until I got my hands on some of the original Mad in japan Fuji lenses, which are definitely higher quality than the ones from China, Thailand or the Philippines
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>>3892523
higher quality how?
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>>3892516
good enough for me let the chinamen do the heavy lifting, let the japanese be in charge of the finer details
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>>3892528
Zoom ring is stiffer
Lens mount is tighter
Smooth jet controlled feeling to the focus ring
Serial number and certifcation engraved instead of a sticker

Can't say much about the optical qualities because my old Made in Thailand xf 55-200 got stolen, but as far as haptics go, the Japanese one is superior
Just bought an xf 18-55mm made in Japan and the seller said he's had four of them altogether and the non-Japanese ones were all wonky in one way or another.

Afaik Fuji now only produces the cheaper ones in the Philippines and the more expensive red badge ones in Thailand as China and Japan have become too expensive. Some people say what matters isn't production but quality control but I guess there's only so much you can control externally. Plus if you've seen the old vids from the Fuji manufactures, it's somewhat dubious that someone in the Philippines without the same attachment to the corporate culture will deliver the same results. But that might as well be bogus. In any case, I'd always test different models of the same lens if I get the chance and in doubt buy the one made in Japan.
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>>3892539
Should probably mention though that the new Japanese lens sometimes has trouble autofocusing on monocrome, even spaces. Never occurred with the old Thai one although that may also have to do with switching to the X-S10 (something I regret, but my X-T20 was stollen together with the lens)
Or maybe I've just never really shot at monochrome, even surfaces before
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>>3890975
I haven't used it but follow a lot of bird photographers who have been picking up the z6 ii as an extra camera lately. The autofocus is quite a bit better on the z6 ii than the z6, but neither are as good as top nikon dslrs. If you're shooting herons or ducks it'll be fine, but birds in flight or warblers in a forest will struggle a bit, and I think in dark situations the focus won't be as good either. On the other hand the high ISO performance is apparently stellar which is great for wildlife.
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>>3892539
sounds very anecdotal, don't know if i can trust you on this
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>>3892552
Of course you can't
All I'm saying is you should always compare if you can

Also, I'm not >>3892485 btw, just giving my two cents since the topic came up
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what sd card should i buy for a sony a7r iii?
shouldnt i be looking at video writing speed? i googled that and was unsuccessful
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To all my F-mount nibbas, what lenses are you guys using for birding/wildlife? Im using a 70-300mm on a crop sensor but I feel like I'm never close enough or I can only fill the frame at 300mm which makes the picture soft as fuck. Plus its kinda slow.
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>>3892569
just buy the fastest card supported by each slot. if it's UHS II, buy a UHS II card that's as fast as UHS II cards go, etc.
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Every time I think about getting into photography I end up getting stuck researching gear
What's a good beginner camera I should just buy?
I bike a lot and just want something to photograph landscapes/cityscapes
Help me escape my cycles of consoomerism /p/!
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>>3892728
Go to the digishit thread and if you somehow can't get a shitty digital camera for free buy one for like twenty dollars. Then take pictures.
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>>3892728
Film or digital
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>>3892730
Digital
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>>3892731
Plaubel makina 67
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>>3892733
>sarcastic recs
Don't make me go to reddit, I hate those faggors
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>>3890803
being able to use 18650s would be nice
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What camera is this?
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Hi frens, I'm a dev fag and I know nothing about cameras. My wife loves taking pictures to her family or landscapes when we go out with her mobile so I want to give her a nice entry level camera, what should I get her?
>budget ~$400
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>>3892749
fuji x100
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>>3892539
don't forget Indonesia. I was also checking if Fuji has a compact zoom, made in Philippines.

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>>3892749
The one she had with her.
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>>3892728
give a budget you fucking dunce. how the fuck are we supposed to know what you can afford? cameras function the same, they don't make "beginner cameras" outside of the literal lowest entry level SLR from Nikon and Canon. but buying those isn't the best usage of money, buying used is, if you're OK buying used. but we need a budget. $1000 is a good budget. $500 is very limiting but possible. lower than that is not advisable. but you need a budget...
>>3892774
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/802293551-USE/canon_2727c002_eos_rebel_t7_dslr.html
Here you go anon.
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>>3890839
damn panasonic can get native sigma art? that's sick. must be great quality
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>>3892781
lmao philippines. no wonder fuji is so poo
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when will Sony release an A7RC?
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Yeah nah i dont wanna sell my fooji worm-master, a grip fixed the front heaviness from the speed booster and i'm just too attached to this little fucker, it's been with me all over and never had a single hiccup.

Sorry fool frame boies, i've got fuji's ring on my finger, the aperture ring.

Pretty based little setup eh?
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>>3893970
>i have fujis ring on my finger
This is the gayest shit I’ve ever heard. I’m honestly ashamed to be a fujifaggot.
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>>3892781
XC isn't meant to be sold, it's a kitlens.
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>>3890769
>People are still denying that the cause of price jumps in used gear is gear hoarders trying to buy up everything for their hoards
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>>3893925
Probably never. The R series is more for photography whearas the 7C is geared more towards videography/multipurpose/travel.

In a few years they may release an A7C2 with a hopefully usable viewfinder.
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>>3893520
Thanks, I’m thinking 1000, used is fine
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>>3892361
dont, mir 1b is manual stop down, that will slow you down, also flare fucking sucks
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>>3894539
I'd say pick up either
* Canon 5D Mark II body (should be ~$400-500 used)
* Canon EF 24mm f/2.8 (prices vary but here's one for $390 https://www.ebay.com/itm/233983472745?epid=113855632)
the 24mm is pretty wide so if you like less wide landscapes, go for a 35mm prime:
* Canon EF 35mm f/2 (here's one for $454 https://www.ebay.com/itm/184867384448?epid=131614025)

or, for a Nikon kit, grab:
* Nikon D610 (used should also be ~$500)
* Nikon AF 24mm f/2.8 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/224473462655?LH_BIN=1 for example, pretty cheap because this is the older G model. you can go for the more modern AF-S model but it will cost probably ~$550 used)
or with the same lens focal length option as above:
* Nikon 35mm f/1.8 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/393378440351?LH_BIN=1 for example, should be $300-400)

I know I'd want a 35mm not a 24mm but you said landscapes and cityscapes which tend to be served better by wider lenses. I have primes at both focal lengths myself and they're both very useful.

When shopping for used camera bodies, make sure they're fully working, they look to be in good condition, make sure the shutter count is relatively low (these are pro bodies so they should be rated for lots of shutter actuations, but try to find one under 50,000 shutter if you can), and keep in mind you'll need to buy a memory card, too. If the person listing the item won't give you the shutter count or any other info you ask for, move on.
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>>3890769
>safespace
gtfo this is 4chon
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>>3890887
$40
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>>3890887
Bro you can get a D80 for $99 on B&H used right now.
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>>3894529
whats wrong with the a7c evf? i already have an a7iii so wouldnt get one but if i wanted something compact the a7c plus those new small f2.5 primes seem like a great package for the price.
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>>3894556
That’s anon, you’re all right
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>>3894541
Yeah, but does the Mir-1 have soft focus and spherical abberation as bad as >>3892648?
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im looking to buy a new camera:
I have a choice of OM-D EM5 III (14-150mm f4-5.6 II Lens) and Fujifilm X-T30 (XF 18-55mm Lens) kits. The X-T30 is $100 cheaper.
I would like the weather sealing but its not that big of a deal if the x-t30 is that much better. I've looked at other cameras but i've deduced it down to these two
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>>3894618
Buy a nickon
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>>3894618
owning both, you'll get better images out of the fuji --- arguably the best kit lens in any system plus fuji colors --- but the olympus is easier to live with and use day to day --- weather sealing and ibis and more flexible and cheaper lenses.
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>>3894653
>fuji colours
Lmao
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>>3894653
do you think weather sealing is worth it? I found Fujifilm X-S10 + XC15-45mm for the same price as the OM-D EM5 III kit. That or i dump $150 more and get nikon z5 like >>3894652 said
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>>3894654
yes, fuji colours, they're widely enjoyed and many people enjoy their output.
>>3894658
honestly, if you're fussing over cheap cameras, you won't have the confidence to take your expensive (to you) camera into rain and dust and shit conditions.
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>>3894664
lol
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>>3894658
Can you afford glass for the Z5?
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>>3894664
nothing wrong in being jewish. If it says it can handle dust and rain i'll be more than happy. I'm really inclined to Fuji's stuff as i have fond memories with their films just i know weather sealing is not helpful until it is, then its really good to have knowing you dont have to worry about ruining some expensive (cheap) equipment.

>>3894666
nope lol
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>>3894667
>i'll be more than happy.
i use an em5 as a hiking camera and i can't fault it. i deliberately bought a cheapie so i have something i don't have to look after and can just abuse. handled all the knocks and scratches and downpours and snow just fine. i run it under a faucet to clean it... but i do the same with my fuji xh1.
>nope lol
whatever body you buy is going to plummet in value immediately, and will be replaced in the next camera update cycle. glass is quite persistent and holds its value --- i've swapped systems making money reselling glass; bodies of course, thousands flushed down the shitter.
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>>3894666
i rather get a z5 with a cheap canon FD adaptor and a 50 1.8 than fuji crop shit and their native lenses are worse than canon FD lol
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>>3894689
lol
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fuji xt-2 vs nikon d610 for my first camera?
mainly want to take street and outdoor stills with people in them and good colors.
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>>3894732
whichever is the cheapest
mirrorless can adapt a shitton of cheap glass
nikon lenses are great for both film and digital if you decide to go that route later
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>>3894732
been looking at the specs, i know i should just bite the bullet and pick one but still, i don't really have anything to lean me one way or the other yet.
fuji looks lighter and more durable, nikon looks like it may be better sensor quality and possibly less awkward focusing.
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>>3894735
thanks, figured that
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>>3894732
the smaller X-T2 might make you feel more stealthy on the streets, which is a huge plus if you're shooting real street (getting close to people, photographing them from the front, etc.). colors are meh, unless you're shooting jpeg only (don't shoot jpeg only) you will need to learn to edit anyway to get the colors you want. you can just buy or download a filter pack and use that in post software if you want to change colors easily. on the other hand, the D610 will win in overall image quality, low light performance, lens quality, and battery life, and your lenses will already be full frame should you ever decide to upgrade to a newer full frame camera.
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>>3894737
bro they're both modern cameras, they're both gonna take beautiful pictures if you know what you're doing
you're asking beginner level questions which will give you beginner level answers, if you already knew this, why even ask? seems like you've got life figured out pretty well yourself
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>>3894732
go with d610, you won't regret. access to amazing value AF-D lenses
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>>3894567
Small and low resolution comparatively.

For me, I don't necessarily mind it being tiny, I'm coming from using an a6400 and a6600 -> A7C

The EVF is even junkier than the APS-C a6600's EVF. You can't ensure you're nailing focus or have a clear image without a clear EVF. The screens on these cameras are also hot dogshit, especially in daylight. Literally can never tell what's in focus by just looking at the rear screen, need the EVF.
Also, the APS-C models had a detatchable eyecup you could switch out if needed. A7c has no eye cup. You have to buy a Chinese 3rd party work-around that plugs into the hotshoe, having a plastic bar that goes across the camera to the eyepiece to get an "eyecup" over the EVF. This didn't even exist for the first 4 months the camera was released, so I mean, at least it's SOMETHING though i suppose
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will Sony also make an FE body with integrated grip since Canon R3 and Nikon Z9 are to be released?
actual R3 body:
https://youtu.be/_T5D9y2nJgs

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>>3895944
It would be called the A1s
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Is the sigma 100-600mm really the best telephoto for the price?
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>>3895944
I don't think so. Sony is focused on 'small compact mirrorless'. i.e.: soapbox cameras only.

>>3895978
for the price, yes.
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>>3895987
Guess its time to save up. Shame the aperture isn't a bit bigger, but I suppose that can't be helped
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Just picked up a nifty fifty.

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>>3895978
Smear Vaseline on the end of a 100-400mm F4 and crop and you'll get similar IQ to any of the 600mm superzooms.
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>>3890874
Why the fuck would you give up a z6 for an x-t4 baka
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>>3892391
I have one of the older models of this. It was a great workhorse lens. Filled a lot of duties from events to pseudo macro shots. Some of my best shots were taken with it but unfortunately the focus motor in it died.
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>>3895997
based af
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>>3896010
>Why the fuck would you give up a z6 for an x-t4 baka

Because I'm a moron that thought he was going to make youtube videos and already had Fuji glass, so it seemed logical. It wasn't. Anyway, the problem has been rectified and I even ended up making money because of how dirt cheap Z6's ended up being right after I got rid of mine.

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What's a good small tripod? I travel a lot so I need it to be small and portable.
I do street and stop motion.
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>>3896393
sirui t-025
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How come don't we have lens caps acting like this?
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Does using an adapter (eg using a Nikon mount lens on a Sony a6500) change the f-stop?

Also, is it possible to have the mount changed on a lens, instead of using an adapter?
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/r/ing : best ISO Q/P

I need high ISO. Hesitating between second hand A7SII and X100F but really something low-end will do if the Q/P is good. Don't really care about the rest I just need good lowlight and sharp 16mpx+
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>>3896621
are you retarded
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>>3896648
>16mpx
>a7sii
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>>3896621
That's kind of what point-and-shoots do.
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>>3896638
If the adapter doesn't have any glass in it (such as a teleconverter or speed booster) or an adjustable aperture (typically for lenses that either lack an aperture or have an electronic one that the adapter can't control) then there's no light lost and the f/ stop is the same.

>Also, is it possible to have the mount changed on a lens, instead of using an adapter?
Depends on the particular lens, but usually no
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>>3896691

Thanks. It's this one:

Fotodiox Pro Lens Mount Adapter, Contax/Yashica (CY, C/Y) Lenses to Sony E-Mount Mirrorless Camera Adapter
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>>3896621
>How come don't we have lens caps acting like this?
Because a mechanism like that would be finicky and offer less protection for no significant advantage other than looking sick as hell.

That being said, there ARE lens caps a lot like that for some point & shoots. The caveat is that it has to be a P&S that (a) has a thread for a lens cap and (b) extends the lens past where the cap goes when you turn it on. Instead of a stargate-like iris, though, they're little flaps that the lens just sort of pushes out of the way. I've got one for my old Sigma DP2, and it's pretty neat. Much more convenient than the stock lens cape. Unfortunately, the DP2 Merrill that replaced it doesn't have an extending lens, so I can't use it with the newer one.
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>>3896638
>Does using an adapter (eg using a Nikon mount lens on a Sony a6500) change the f-stop?
If it's a speedbooster lens, then yes--those effectively change the focal length to be wider, which has the side effect of also making the effective aperture wider, so a .7x speedbooster would give you an extra stop of aperture (more or less).

The other situation where yes is if it's an adapter that's also a teleconverter--this is what happens if the flange-focal distance the lens is expecting (i.e., the distance from where it mounts to the focal plane where the film or sensor is) is smaller than the flange-focal distance of the camera is expecting (or only a little bit bigger, such that you can't fit an adapter in the space of the difference between the), so they have to add extra optics to make it a little more telephoto so they can maintain proper focusing ability. You'll see this, for example, with mount adapters to put older manual-focus Canon FD lenses on newer Canon EF bodies, because FD and EF mounts are close to the same flange-focal distance.

With the specific example of a Nikon F lens on a Sony E-mount camera like you posited, though, you won't need extra optics for a dumb adapter, so the aperture will only change if you have a speedbooster adapter.
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>>3896746
Nope; that one won't change the aperture
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Just bought a Minolta MD Rokkor-X 50mm 1.4 lens for $10 with it reporting haze. Looks more like fungus; not sure the best way to capture it on the doublet that's in a sealed housing. I've pulled out and cleaned the other lenses.

Should I go ahead and grab a germicidal lamp, or just try the sunlight exposure?

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>>3896901
Disassemble and wipe that shit off
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>>3892728
>What's a good beginner camera I should just buy?
200D
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Is it possible to buy some sort of 2x teleconverter adapter to make M4/3 lenses work on a full frame camera?
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>>3897009
yea its called macro bellows and if u extend them far enough you'll cover the entire sensor
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>>3892728
>What's a good beginner camera I should just buy?
upgrade your cellphone to a new iphone or sammysung.
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Was thinking about going full pro as a freelance. I currently have a Canon 600D but I should upgrade soon. Would the Sony A7III be a good bet? If yes, what kind of lenses should I get? I was planning to start with a Samyang FE 35mm 1.4, mainly for portraits, landscapes and videomaking (at least that's the kind of jobs I have contacts for). Is it ok as a starting FF lens? I don't have a ton of money but an investment is an investment, might put something more in for a premium, as long as it suits the job.

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>>3897033
If it were me, I'd want the better AF of a native lens. I'd say go for the Sony FE 35mm f/1.8 (which you can get used for $500-550) or if you really want f/1.4, get the Sigma 35mm f/1.4 because it will have better AF and optics than the Samyang. Obviously the Sony 35mm f/1.4 GM would be great, but it's also expensive. Otherwise yes, an a7m3 and 35mm prime is a great kit.
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It's already June, is Nikon serious about these alleged two new DSLR's coming this year or not?
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>>3897126
Yes.
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what needs to change in picrelated?
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>>3897132
When can we expect some news then?
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>>3897126
What are the new bodies replacing?
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>>3897135
you need to put glass in front of the bodies, seeing rf mount there is kinda lol
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>>3897135
Those are not bad recommendation. I'd add an asterix to some of those bulky pro level DSLR. They are definitely not for everybody.

Maybe add canons eos m5 and m6. Those are decent enough to get recommended. I'm not sure if you should put compact PS with small sensor in same category as x100 or gr's.

Overall looks decent. I'm not sure about price tags though.
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>>3897149
Total speculation at this point as far as I know. Their highest selling camera is the D3500, so one is probably replacing that. They have so many full frame bodies I'd imagine they'd focus on crop DSLRs, so maybe a high end D7500 or D500 replacement for the other one.
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any new decent "pocket" size cameras announced?
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>>3897152
Thanks, I cleaned it up and added film camera category. Prices I took from ebay (most recent Sold prices). Prices change all the time and vary by location but I had to go with something.
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>>3897126
>two new Nikon DSLR cameras
I hope it's not a D7. I own a D70, D700, and D7000 and I would feel compelled to complete the set.
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>>3897148
In our lifetime.
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>>3896656
yeah I know but don't be retarded you know why I look up to it
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>>3897166
Your APS-C section is shit. XX0D series Canon is garbage compared to X0D or 7D, which you can get for even those lower prices.

Also, X-Pro > X-E
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>>3897212
X-Pro is way more expensive
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>>3897212
So you would give a beginner a 40d instead of a t1i, and a 50d instead of a t3i. that's a debate of features/build quality vs sensor age
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>>3897166
Needs more Pentax
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>>3897220
Yes I would, every time.
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How much would you pay for a fully working SX-70? It comes with the ND filter that lets you shoot 600 film. Anything particular I should look out for? Is it even a good purchase?
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>>3897306
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>>3897135
Why is there no FF mirrorless under $800? An A7 shouldn't be much more than $500
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>>3897318
good catch
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>>3896648
A7Sii, but really A7iii and Z6 too
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>>3896952
It was inside the sealed doublet. I broke the brass barrier and cleaned them all and got it reassembled. Might have to redo it all to properly clean up of dust and smears.
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>>3896648
Used d610 can’t beat it for q/p
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>>3890852
>>3890852
Picked up a second hand z5 with the 24-70mm f4 on trade me. It’s mean.
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>>3897615
that 24-70 f/4 is rediculously good.
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>>3897306
I bought mine for 5 bucks at the thrifts so no more than that
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I know they're not popular here but I ended up settling on a Sony A7II. Wanted to get a Sony A7RII, but unfortunately second hand prices in my country are just too damn high for it, I've been looking for six weeks and not a single good deal. We're talking $500 difference, I'd rather get another lens.

Just contacted the seller, just waiting to get shutter count before I pull the trigger.

For now I'm going to get the Samyang 45mm f1.8 with it. I looked at Sony 55mm 1.8 and Sigma 50mm 1.4 but decided I don't want to spend twice the money when the Samyang should be good enough. Not to mention it's smaller and lighter than both(significantly compared to the Sigma), and more recent.
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Any comments about the Irix 45mm f/1.4? Playing with the idea of getting a PK-mount version of it.
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>>3892516
>>3892523
>>3892535
all based
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>receive 5diii
>slap on a manual lens to test that it works
>exposure image via liveview
>take photo
>several stops overexposed
>research why
>find out about exposure simulation
>it still is greatly wrong exposure
>youtube it
>by luck find some old video mentioning a bug
>the system saves the last used aperture setting by an electronic lens and exposes using that value for any future non-electronic lens until you use one again

Had to reset it to f2 ish by using my sigma 18-35.
That's a really big flaw for a dslr.
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>>3898252
get a chipped adapter
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>>3898254
Yeah I'm going to have to do that now.
Won't be able to expose videos properly otherwise.
They are fixed apertures though, aren't they? Or can you change them on the fly like a normal lens?
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>>3898259
They're fixed but it doesn't matter, the camera meters fine. Remember f-stops aren't t-stops.
Not replying anymore in this thread though, I won't enable OP further.
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>>3897968
Do you actually know what f/1.4 manual focus means? Also there is the FA43/1.9 or the FA 50/1.4 or DA* 55/1.4 for something similar and with AF
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I have an A7R4 + 24-70mm f2.8, and the 55mm f1.8, if i sold my kit i could buy a complete kit on MFT with an EM1-2 ranging from 14mm equiv to 300mm at a constant f2.8 aperture and have money to spare.

I like doing landscapes, some birding and not very often, portraits, but i feel the impact in quality it's going to be big, I pixel peep a lot and I like cropping into my pictures.

Thoughts on this? I can't get the thought of having a very complete kit>having a high quality kit.

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>>3898313
Are you like, not planning on earning any money in the future? Why not just build on what you have? No matter what you'll likely lose money by reselling.
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>>3898297
Yeah, I know it pretty well because my secondary lens is a vintage screw-mount 50/f1.4. I like it a lot, but would like to have automatic lens stop-down when taking a picture.

Thanks for recommendations, going to check those out. The Irix 45mm is quite costly for a manual focus lens.
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Tamron 24-70/w.8 g2 for canon, ye nah?
Would serve as social candid and "tourist" lens.
630usd used.
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>>3898323
Not really no, i wish I could but i don't have the drive nor the willingness to do so, so I just enjoy taking pretty pictures I like and sharing to my 3-4 contacts that care a small bit.
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>>3894562
No, this is 4chan, 4chon died some years ago but they still have a board somewhere
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>>3897135
>no Nikon D700
>Nikon D800 and not D810
Fag table
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>>3898336
I don't mean like in becoming a professional photographer, I mean just saving some of your regular income and slowly upgrading your current kit as you go along.

Maybe rethink your lens setup but keep the camera? Are you using the 55mm a lot or just the zoom for everything? If you sell the 55mm you'd be at least halfway through to the Tamron 70-180mm f2.8, which would give you pretty good coverage. Maybe short for birding but with the A7R4 you can crop quite a bit so should be fine.
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>>3897166
>Canon 5D's
>Heavy side
Double fag table, also needs Canon G1X on Compact section
>>3897173
D6 just came out, a D7 seems highly implausible until 2024-2025, if ever
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>>3898364
The 55mm got it's purposes, but i wouldn't have to keep pumping money onto camera gear if i sold it all (minding the cost of reselling and reacquiring everything).

I am more concerning, will falling down to MFT be that bad?
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Shooting on a Panasonic G9 since it came out and really like it, but I'm considering turning M43 into my mount for video only and switching to an FF mirrorless for my photography. Eyeing the Z5 because of its image stabilization mainly for vintage lenses, but I'd probably get a few of their native mount ones as well. Is the Z-mount system worth investing in, or should I just get an RP and settle for an inferior camera but with better growth with the RF mount?
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>>3898474
>Is the Z-mount system worth investing in, or should I just get an RP and settle for an inferior camera but with better growth with the RF mount?
Z and R are currently roughly equally positioned in the market, since they started up at almost exactly the same time and have similarly massive camera companies behind them. Plus, the start of those lines was extremely recent. So it's kinda too early to say that the R-mount has better growth potential than the Z mount.

So I'm gonna say go ahead and get the Z5.
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>>3897166
tfw had Canon A-1 and Nikon D7200
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>>3898516
Second hand z6 is the better choice
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>>3898313
>Thoughts on this? I can't get the thought of having a very complete kit>having a high quality kit.
Stick with the Sony kit.

Keep in mind that that f/2.8 aperture on the zooms on the MFT kit will only be about as useful as an f/4 zoom on the Sony. What you'd gain from f/2.8 in light gathering ability, you'd lose in ISO performance. And, like, those f/2.8 zooms are going to be really high quality, but they *have* to be really high quality because of the size of the sensor they're projecting on. A mft lens has to be twice as good as the equivalent full frame lens just to break even.

Another thing to keep in mind: You've got a ridiculously high-resolution camera. The EM1 II is 20MP vs the Sony's 60MP, so you can do a 2x crop of your A7R4 and get a 30MP image. That means that you can already match a MFT 140mm f/2.8 with the gear you have now and then some.
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>>3898313
>I like doing landscapes
Do not switch
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>>3898527
How so? What does the Z6 have above the 5 that makes it worth the extra $200 or so? I'll be getting one of the two
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Is an angled viewfinder worth buying? A lot of times I've wished wished I had one, but it's hard to say how using it would feel without trying. There's an old Yashica I could get for cheap.
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>>3898534
I hear you, I'll refrain from doing that trade-off, thank you.

On another slightly different topic, would a GFX50 resolve more detail than my A7R4? Given a similar lens (24-70/2.8 vs 32-64/4) would the GFX have better default although it has 11 less MP?
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>>3898600
much bigger eyeballs/sensor sites on the gfx, it's a better choice.
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>>3898600
>would a GFX50 resolve more detail than my A7R4? Given a similar lens (24-70/2.8 vs 32-64/4) would the GFX have better default although it has 11 less MP?
Maybe a tiny bit more. But looking at DPReview's studio comparison shot (https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison), they look so close to identical that spending all of the money you'd need to upgrade seems pretty ridiculous.

Just use the gear you have and stop chasing upgrades.
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>>3898557
the z6 costs 1000 dollars used, the z5 costs like 1500 new and its a recent release so there are barely any on the used market yet
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>>3897135
X-T2 should be firmly moved to $500 since that's what it goes for now. X-T1 should be moved down to $300.
>>3898363
Except the D810 doesn't sell for $800 like the D800.
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>>3897166
Oh, and add the X-T3 to $800.
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>>3898367
>will falling down to MFT be that bad?
Yes. MFT is a joke. The sensor is literally miniscule. Don't fall for the meme.
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Reluctantly added D700 even though beginners have no business near one. I own one.
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>>3898769
fuck off newfag.
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>>3898770
you need to go back kid
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>>3898737
MFT is a great system and the thing people keep forgetting about is the fact that MFT can produce really great images. Look at test charts and stuff and you'll think it's a weak system.
Take it out into the field and it will provide results.

The sensor is far from being "miniscule" though. Most phones have far tinier sensors and yet they're "killing" dedicated cameras. Plus systems like the Pentax Q and Nikon One (CX Sensor) are smaller than MFT. And all those TV shows and movies? Those are often shot on cameras that make use of Super 16 formats, 2/3 or even 1/3 sensors, all smaller than MFT.
Take a $250,000 Fujinon lens built for the 2/3 sensor and adapt it to Micro Four Thirds, and you get an image circle half the size of the MFT sensor. You'll need to engage the inbuilt 2x teleconverter to get a usable image.

Let's not also forget that "full frame" is also known as "digital small format" (as in 135 film known as small format).
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>>3898769
not bad at all
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>>3898792
Oh agreed, some pictures taken on MFT are of my favorites such as this one.

But even if there's the possibility of shooting great stuff, not being able to crop or have a stupendously sharp photo kinda irks me, that and there's always something a bit off from the color palette of the pictures I've seen, like there's not that much depth to them, or something is missing, always. I am that kind of gearfag.
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>>3898803
You can crop, and it'll still look ok and be good for most applications.
The thing is... most FF bodies are 24mp and MFT is 20mp, and I really don't see much of a boost from the 4mp - indeed when a camera model upgraded by 4mp with a new rendition... well... it's generally panned as being "disappointing"...

Anyway, I can't really say I've seen many unsharp images from MFT, though you need to ignore images out of focus or motion blur.
As for the colour palette... Olympus is known for great colour science, so I can't really tell what you mean. A lot of post-processing is very subjective and, I guess right now a desaturated look is pretty popular these days.
I can certainly tell you that there are instances when MFT shows its weaknesses, particularly when jumping up to really high ISOs. But even FF cameras struggle with high ISO, and the likes of the Medium Format Hasselblad X1D arguably look worse than MFT at ISO 12400.

Basically... noise is weird.
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>>3898769
Missing tlrs like yashica mat or rolleicords in mf film section.
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>>3898792
>The sensor is far from being "miniscule" though.
No, it's miniscule.
>and yet they're "killing" dedicated cameras.
No they're not. Cameras are losing market share because people take convenience over quality. That's literally the only reason.
>Plus systems like the Pentax Q and Nikon One (CX Sensor) are smaller than MFT.
The existence of a 2 foot adult doesn't mean a 3 foot adult isn't ridiculously short.
>TV shows and movies
Video deals with smaller resolutions so it doesn't matter as much. You're not right about movies, maybe some TV shows.
>Let's not also forget that "full frame" is also known as "digital small format"
I'm aware of the history of 135 as a film format and how it became the digital standard. Digital 35mm is very different than 35mm film and occupies a different place in the photographic ecosystem than 135 did in the film photographic ecosystem.

>>3898769
Nice. Now we gotta make sure this gets added to the gear thread sticky.

>>3898803
>such as this one
>no photo
What did he mean by this
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>>3898844
Forgot to upload it.

Now that i realize, i used to really like it, but now ...

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>>3898850
What in the world happened here?
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>>3898851
Depth-of-field wafer thin.

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>>3898864
Yeah but the artifacts around it and the colors and shit. It looks almost like a VHS screenshot or one of those edited images with a weird vaporwave aesthetic. That's not a normal out of focus look.
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>>3898850
This picture speaks much more to me, man it had been years without checking my old album of pics, i don't like any of the ones taken on MFT.
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>>3898851
Shitty lens, mitakon 25mm f0.95 on EM10
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>>3898851
deep learning AI
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>>3892781
they're both dire lenses
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>>3899014
kek
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>>3898870
It looks like there's Longitudinal Chromatic Aberration occurring here as well.
That combined with the fact that the >>3898874 shows that this is some Chinese reverse engineered version of what Voigtländer makes for MFT.
I've never seen anything like that occur on a native Olympus lens.
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How do I learn about vintage lenses worth buying to use with modern cameras? I picked up a Sony mirrorless so I definitely want to get some, but no idea what to look for, particularly with less common focal lengths.
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>>3899038
why the fuck would you buy an advanced state of the art camera, and then slap some ancient crusty piece of shit in front of it
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>>3899040
For fun. And I've seen some really good results. The issue is that it's kinda hard to navigate that space because there's like different versions with barely different names and one can be good and one can be mediocre.
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>>3899038
Just google the lens you're interested in. You should be able to find reviews for it. Generally primes are better than zooms by a decent margin.
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>>3899040
>Nooooo, don't take photos you fucking idiot! it's a state of the art camera, not a tool or a machine!
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WHERE THE FUCK DID I PUT MY NPF TO 7.4V DC OUTPUT ADAPTER?
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Are interchangeable lenses useful or just for gimmicky shoots? I'm considering buying a point and shoot in place of a milc/dslr to cut costs
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>>3899147
>Are interchangeable lenses useful
I feel like this is bait. What an absolutely flabbergastingly retarded take.
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>>3899151
Show me the importance of a lens then
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>>3899139
I FOUND IT
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>>3899188
good job anon, I got a camera today but can't find my SD card so I can't even test it
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>>3899195
Just go to Target and buy one or something man
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>>3899199
yeah that's what I'm gonna do tomorrow unless I randomly find it, today I'm on the afternoon shift so no time
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>>3899036
That last image of the black guy was taken with a 5D mark 3 and the 24/105-F4.

Yeah the Mitakon is hot garbage on MFT.
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I could get a Canon EF 100mm macro f/2.8 USM for about 250 freedom dollars. Gotta decide fast. Unless I'm mistaken, isn't this like 100 below the going rate? I am very torn on this. It couldn't be this cheap for no reason, right? I want it badly and I technically have the money, but impulse buying shit isn't usually something I do. Is this one of those times you just need to jump on the fucking opportunity?
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>>3899222
>below going rate
Canon DSLR lens prices are on a downward trend right now, since the future of the company's development and support appears to be in their mirrorless cameras.
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>>3898769
>Reluctantly added D700 even though beginners have no business near one. I own one.

oof. imagine trying to create a guide for newbies but still being a humongous gatekeeping faggot over what bodies people "deserve" to use, lmao.
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>>3899230
Huh. Then I might as well hold on and try to snag something with IS like I was planning to. Good deals make my head funny, thanks for the info.
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my friend told me that my fuji xt10 is all I need and that I shouldn't upgrade.

He told me to just add 2 inch white border around all my photos and that would make the photos better. that people seem to think giant border photos are really good.

Any truth to that?
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>>3899195
Thanks, anon. Hope you find it as well.
It's always at the last spot you look.
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>>3899234
I think it's about the unfriendliness of the D700.
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>>3899249
Literally no more difficult than any of the other Nikon bodies on that list. In fact, it's slightly simpler since no video mode.
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>>3899234
were you a photo expert on day 1? beginners want to try out video, cheap wide angles, cheap telephoto, they will need to crop, they probably don't want to fuss around with CF cards. not to mention overpaying for a d700 due to its resurgent popularity. but you already knew all that you crusty, miserable cunt
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>>3899249
whats so unfriendly? it has all the gay modes beginner level cameras have as well and two dials for shutter and aperture
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>lens retails for 1600 muricas
>guys post open box copy of lens for 1800
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>>3899272
Your image is a perfect example of why the D700 is unfriendly, pic related.
I've shot beginner Nikons and pro Canons and yet the D700 intimidates me with its cluster of buttons on top of a dial on the left and the lack of a PASM dial.
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>>3899305
Probably just retards, but maybe they got confused and checked prices for the F2.8 when putting it up? That one is $2.7k so $1.8k used would make sense.
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>>3899339
nah he has has the 800 and 600 mm rfs for 200 more then retail too
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>>3899147
If you want more light in your image, you need a bigger hole.
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>>3899038
Google them?
Pentax forums has piles of threads on vintage lenses for example, you can generally find piles of photograph samples.
www.youtube.com/c/Simonsutak is also good.

Ebay is full of scalpers but you can find good deals on local sites/fb marketplace.
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>>3899305
>>3899349
He's banking on people needing it ASAP when they are sold out at major retailers.
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>>3899416
amazon has all 3 for msrp
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>>3897650
Bought the camera and the Samyang, managed to not get scammed. Hopefully won't regret it.

Now to figure out what the fuck am I doing.

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>>3899312
Yeah, I can totally understand that.
The D700 is a camera that is inexplicitly not aimed towards beginners, that's why it doesn't have a full auto mode.
It's aimed at people who already know how cameras work.

Even Nikon has realised this and gave the D780 and the Z cameras a PASM dial.
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>>3899626
Just use it man. A7II is a very capable camera with some flaws and all those cheap chinese AF lense are also incredibly capable with some flaws.
For the money you couldn't do much better.
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I'm looking for a relative wide angle and fast lens, manual, apsc/fullframe.
All of these lenses like 7artisans, what are all those brands? Haven't kept track.
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>>3899634
Thanks anon, I will. I took some test shots in my backyard an I'm pretty happy with it, tomorrow I'll take it on a hike with me to give it a real test.
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>>3899685
> apsc/fullframe
Well, which is it? A 28mm would be wide angle on full frame but relatively normal on APS-C, likewise a 16mm would be a wide angle on APS-C but an ultrawide on full frame.
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/p/hotography and ebay noob here
Is 100€ = 120$ a correct price to a sell a used Olympus M.Zuiko Digital 14-42mm F3.5-5.6 EZ? I have a buyer and I think maybe I'm selling it too cheap.
Also then what's a good price to sell an Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 14-150mm F4.0-5.6? I'm thinking 370€.
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>>3899694
Also I'm curious, are those lenses actually any good? Is my mom a pleb? She was into photography for a while years ago. Now she wants me to sell those. I have no clue myself.
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>>3899692
Either will work, but I'd prefer fullframe.
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>>3898769
>budget tops out at $800
imagine being poor
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>>3899694
>>3899696
$120 for a default kit pancake is a fuckton. 14-150 is also shit, sorry. $60 for the first and $150 for the second tops.
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>>3899696
>are those lenses actually any good
first one definitely worth it, even if shit, it's so small
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Thinking of getting an x-e4 but...

Used to be a portrait, fashion, lingerie, coomtographer.

Had to reactivate my IG account the other day cause I met a young new model who's just starting out and I wanted to shoot with her.

God I hate IG and social media like the plague. What's the other option to show off my work and to get contacts/DM easily?

Thought about dumping my best stuff on Flickr cause that's at least purely photo based without stories, shopping, and tiktok dances.
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>>3899841
Fuck i want one
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>>3899841
Time to retire my d800
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>>3900600
Flickr is alright but it used to be more active with generally higher quality. Now you get people who will dump a few hundred snap shits at once.

Still better than Social Shit Media.
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Opinions on any of the following for Sony FE?
>Samyang 135mm 2.0(might be my next purchase)
>Tamron 24mm 2.8(I know it has bad distortion but other than that it seems great for the price)
>maybe Tamron 70-180mm 2.8(I really want one but can't justify spending that much on a single lens just yet, so will probably wait until it hits used market)
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Guy is selling a working Nikon F3 with a 50mm and a 100mm Nikkor prime lens, is it a good deal/idea? I've only shot digital
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>>3899694
>>3899696
Other than the kit pancake zoom, most of the older Olympus lens are probably cheap garbage Olympus put out there to appeal to all the Pen users.
Now that the MFT system has matured, all the older "M.Zuiko Digital" lenses have essentially been superceded by the "M.Zuiko Premium" lenses (the primes) and the "M.Zuiko Pro" lenses, which consists of their f/1.2 primes and constant aperture zooms.
>>3899841
A hypothetical Zf would sell like hotcakes, but I feel like the biggest problem such a camera faces is the fact that the FTZ adapter sucks ass.
Unless Nikon make a better adapter, much like Sony's LA-EA5 or even the LA-EA4, with full screw drive AF and mechanically operated aperture, then I can only see the Zf being a vintage larp, much like Fuji or Olympus. The Df actually let users mount some of Nikon's oldest lenses, and they worked. If the Zf fails to do the same with an included adapter, then Nikon will just make a full frame Fujifilm X-T4 with a Bayer Sensor.
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>>3899852
Good luck pulling each of them for that price, lol.
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>>3899841
Fucking hell, 1/4000th shutter speed again?
Hope this means Nikon will put out small lenses because hipsters at least want consistency in terms of lens weight being lifted by their twink arms
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>>3899841
Please be fullframe
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>>3899841
Please be a new lineup of MFT Nikon cameras
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It's absolutely sinful of fugly the Nikkor lenses are.
I was interested in the rumored retro camera, until I saw how it would look like with the lens attached.

Almost made me vomit.
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>>3900724
Nikkor Z lenses are actually very nice to look, nothing garish about them, they just are unless you like golden rings and bombastic lettering like niggers do.
BUT on a retro body they are discordant, doesn't help they are all big and the balance will be awful since there's no grip and the underhand posture isn't good either with front-heavy/long lenses. It might be an adapter king but for that Nikon needs a monster EVF with a half-decent focus peaking mode.
It also looks slim as hell, the Z mount is protruding in that image.
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>>3900726
>BUT on a retro body they are discordant,
Yeah, I can't describe it very well, but that image triggers the shit out of me, like watching a freakshow.
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wait a sec... why two sensor planes symbols?

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>>3900734
People say it's fake rumor, so yeah, it's probably a fake.
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>>3900724
>>3900734
I was almost interested until I saw it was mirrorless
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>>3900769
Nikon discontinued a bunch more F-mount lenses this week. You will have to make do with mirrorless.
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>>3900774
If anything I need to hoard F glass.
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>>3900769
>EVF BAD
>DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A BRICK, BAD
>E-SHUTTER BAD
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>>3900790
If anything the antiergonomic bricks are all mirrorless.
And yes, EVF sucks donkey dick by the yard.
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>>3900790
How do you guys feel about Z-mount barrels that are OVER twice the fucking size they need to be?

Don't give me any excuses, the AF sucks dicks on the macro, so it's not like the size was necessary for the AF.
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>>3900790
>EVF SAME AS OVF
>NO GRIP NO PROBLEM
>FLASH SYNC IS FOR BAD PEOPLE
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>>3900774
Mostly shitty, outdated lenses with mediocre results to begin with. The F mount lenses people are actually buying - the standard primes, the new 24-70 and 70-200's, the PF telephoto primes etc. are still in production, albeit on backorder because of the chip shortages.
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>>3900812
>>3900792
>MIRRORLESS BODY'S BAD

>>3900808
I really don't know why most Z mount lenses are this ugly and retardedly big

>>3900812
EVF is actually better than the Ovf
>FLASH SYNC IS FOR BAD PEOPLE
It's a feature, not an obligation, i don't have to have a camera doing CLACK.
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>>3900828
Nevermind the numbers, I accidentally used the large macro's numbers while the image is of the smaller 50mm.

But the barrel ratio is accurate, That 50mm is way bigger than it needs to be, for seemingly no reason at all.
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>>3900808
>>3900831
itt: photography losers who think they know than the optical engineers at nikon
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>>3900838
Nobody likes hilariously huge lenses.
Especially not one swith tiny front element and crawling AF speed.
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>>3900808
They fired all the designers, havent they?
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>>3900808
Oh, wait, its f2.8 as well?!
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>>3900822
>Mostly shitty, outdated lenses with mediocre results to begin with
Imagine being so ignorant or having such a shit taste

>>3900828
Faggotog: The Post
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>>3900838
Everybody else makes the same focal length and faster aperture lens smaller and nicer looking, why can't Nikon? Are they worst?
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>>3900848
Are you my ring friend?
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>>3900847
Yeah, Small optics, small front element.
Super sloooooow AF.
It would have been one thing if the size somehow made the AF fast. But this isn't even the case.
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>>3900734
This a mockup somebody made using the (supposedly) leaked image in >>3899841 and the image of a Nikon film camera.
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>>3890769
I've got a D7200, Sigma 17-50 2.8 and DX 50mm 1.8. I really mainly shoot protests and very occasional portraits. People have reached out and bought some prints from me. Now, with $1,000, I'm a baby and need someone to tell me if getting an X100V is retarded. D7200 is just a big clunker and I mainly shoot around 23mm anyways. Any thoughts on X100V vs X100F btw?



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