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Dear /p/, I wanted to kindly ask you for opinion on photo editing. In particular - what's the acceptable degree of photo modification?

Whenever I start to work on photos I took, Im kinda torn between playing with various effects, modify lighting and contrast or leaving it "as is" aside from noise removal and framing. Im completely unsure whenever it is good idea to use lots of stuff like enchanting colors, setting high contrast, using options like "cinematic contrast" in Darktable and when I do, I feel guilty about that. I might not be some good photographer but I do like what Im doing and most importantly, I want to do best I can and try to at least slightly improve over time. I saw both approach in action, like when I once asked some veteran photographer for some advice and he replied that he always prefer to have pictures pretty much done the moment he take them, almost no modification. At the time, I see tons of rather popular photographers doing tons of work in Photoshop with presents and heavy editing.

That and I would also like to ask you for opinion on those photos. I showed them before to /m/ but since /p/ is photography board, it would be a chance to hear opinions from different perspective. Thanks in advance for any help and sorry for trouble.

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And sorry for uploading picture not in 1000px scale by accident. Sorry again.

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>>
there's no "unacceptable" or "acceptable" degree
it depends on what you're trying to accomplish

you can do whatever the fuck you want
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For example this is picture pretty much "as is", without much modification...

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>>3858097
>And sorry for uploading picture not in 1000px
it's kind of an old meme. I'd honestly just worry about not posting photos bigger than 1MB. at least that's what I do.
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>>3858099

...and this one was pretty heavily modified with intention to make it more "emotional" so to speak.

>>3858098

True but at the same time I don't want to get into bad habits of going "over it" like I once (for short time) was doing almost every photo with Dutch angle.

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>>3858099
You're overexposed. Use your histogram or zebras when you are shooting to make sure you don't clip the highlights
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Another heavy modified.

>>3858100

Oh, okay, I just don't want to break some set up rules.

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Consistency is more important than accuracy, then again, the best path to consistent editing is accuracy at the shoot. My advice would be to at least strive for neutrality when shooting. Same wb, ligting, iso, in your case. You'll then have lesser obstacles when deciding on the end look.
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>>3858095
no rules only tools, especially if you just want to show the photos to normies

look at >>3854587 ffs, 100% clarity -> export -> 100% clarity again and they still get compliments on their """style""" so there's clearly no accounting for taste
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>>3858104

Unfortunately, my D5300 won't show me histograms during or after shooting, I need to export them to PC first. But on that case, I was using only one weak LED lamp (with trace paper placed in front of it to soften light a bit) and tin foil to reflect it from other side so I guess I messed up lighting overall in first place. At the other hand, I wanted to make lighting more "dynamic". Im still struggling with proper setup so I welcome any suggestions.

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And this is example of one of those "cinematic contrast" options.

>>3858106

WB kinda stays the same since I tend to use same light source most of the time. But maybe I should be more consistent on modification degree like all photos in gallery edited in same way.

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>>3858110
Wtf, even the D5100 showed them
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There are few pictures that are a bit "perverted" but in my defense I always wanted to make photos like this but I guess that no woman would agree to pose for me.

>>3858109

I actually upload only to my private site and from time to time show photos of plastic models on /m/. I can't have FB/IG account for reasons unknown so no big showing off but I considered making Twitter account. Im not sure about it however...

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>>3858117
my rebel xt from 2007 shows them too
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>>3858110
RTFM
>>3858117
He's just operationally handicapped. Too much gooktoons, too little manuals.
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And another "lewd" one. This time I placed sheet of red plastic before light source to make it appear like that. Again, not sure if this helped with final effect or was completely unnecessary.

>>3858117
I was a bit shocked too but turns out that it don't have this option. Im actually planning to switch to full frame soon but can't decide on which model. Probably D750 but I hope that /gear/ will help me chose.

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I guess that would be all to avoid spamming. Again, thanks for your opinions.

>>3858123
I checked the manual, it is always first thing I do. I checked both printed (smaller) and pdf version (larger) and finally searched internet - nope, D5300 don't have this option. Even my mother compact Lumix can but this one not. Weird, I know.

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>>3858127
It has a histogram, RGB even.
Here you have some brown video on it:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg5IJcvBMLU
Here you have an explanation for dummies:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg5IJcvBMLU
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>>3858127
For good measure, here's Saint Ken's guide:
https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d5300/users-guide/menus-playback.htm
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>>3858132
>>3858130

Oh, okay. No idea why I missed this, probably had no idea I have to use up and down arrows to check it. But at least now I can check histograms of already taken photos on camera.
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>>3858147
>using Ctrl+F in the manual is HARD
I hate weebs
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>>3858223

I missed it, okay? No need to be upset.
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>>3858147
Too many gook toons and gook comic books. I swear you probably lost at least 15 iq from chapter 133-139 of snk.
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>>3858254

Jokes on you, I don't even read or watch that one. Honestly, why being so bitter about it? Why not comment the photos instead?
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>>3858097
First issue are those backgrounds. You need to get some colour there, not just black void.
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>>3858333

Like solid complementary color? I thought that dark background help making model stand out...
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>>3858257
He just jumped into the conversation lol, I was the one who brought you the links and the manual screenshot.
He's not wrong though.
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>>3858338
While I appreciate providing links since now I have means to quick check it before dropping photos on PC, I don't see the reason to insult me over that. Why being so mean? And using "weebs" as insult on site founded to discuss animuu&mango?
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>>3858336
try having a look at some boudoir photography for inspiration because that seems like the general feel you are going for
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>>3858095
>what's the acceptable degree of photo modification
By instagram or other social media thot posting rules: Near infinite.

MFC actually has seen a bunch of figure photos and usually they're preferring fairly clear not super contrasty shots, although muh BOKEH is not unpopular there.
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>>3858097
>>3858105
The 1000px scaling was relevant like 10 years ago on /p/. People no longer have dial-up internet and the size constraints haven't really caught up so just upload whatever you feel like.

>>3858103
>True but at the same time I don't want to get into bad habits of going "over it" like I once (for short time) was doing almost every photo with Dutch angle.

The onus of how much processing should be applied to a photograph is on the photographer and it really depends on what you're trying to achieve. If you're going for something that's larger than life, you might want to go really heavy on the processing, while if you're shooting for Reuters or something, you're going to want to do very little processing.

Some photographers will even go so far as full-on image manipulation. Even Rhein II, the most expensive photograph ever sold, had the background and a dog-walker completely shopped out. But it works because the end goal was extreme minimalism.

Again, how much processing you want to apply is really up to you. Personally, I don't think this is too much processing especially in terms of what it seems like you're going for.

>>3858114
The highlights are clipping here.
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>>3858103
>>3858105
>>3858110
>>3858114
I don't really get why you like these dark shots so much. For the most part they just show less details of the figure.

Boudoir photography is just to pretend women/men's horny thottery is more "art". Also to conceal some imperfections with some models at times. But usually you don't need to do this to figures.
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>>3858100
Yeah it's retarded. Hard resolution limits are an autistic concept. Just state a reasonable filesize limit.

>>3858333
I disagree. You don't "have" to do anything, in fact having the background be pure black draws all focus to the figure.

>>3858098
this
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>>3858223
anime rots your brain
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>>3858666
>The 1000px scaling was relevant like 10 years ago on /p/. People no longer have dial-up internet and the size constraints haven't really caught up so just upload whatever you feel like.
this is bullshit, /p/ is bandwidth limited on the server side, doesn't matter how fast your internet, full res pics take seconds to load, goddamn annoying
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>>3858690
not my fault that hiroshimoot is too stingy for fast servers/CDN
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>>3858690
>/p/ is bandwidth limited on the server side, doesn't matter how fast your internet, full res pics take seconds to load, goddamn annoying

It's not server side. Looks like your provided has limited your shitposting. lol
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>>3858743
dude, you click the pic at 1.55, you can see it loading line by line, and finishes at 2.46, pretty much a whole second, are you retarded?
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>>3858751
>pretty much a whole second
That's the point. Full res pic takes less than a second to load. Dudes is talking about seconds.
>full res pics take seconds to load
He's talking about more than one second and at least two seconds.

Are YOU retarded?
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>>3858653
>>3858667

So, I have to study various boudoir photography first. Okay then. To be honest - it was just one time experiment, I normally build and photograph mecha models and the like. It's just that I can't realize that little fantasy of photoshooting actual model like this so I picked the one that won't complain. Who would even agree to, anyway?

As for dark photos - original intention was to make model(s) appear a bit more "lifelike" instead of clearly tiny plastic model kits. But again, Im only doing this for relatively short time (2-3 years, once per month or two) so Im not experienced enough. I fear that doing completely even light would make them appear bland and flat.

>>3858666
Speaking of highlights, there is a serious problem I need to solve - whenever I set up light source for shooting plastic models, probably because of the scale, I tend to overexpose one side while having underexposed the other, even when I use A4 piece of tinfoil to reflect the light coming usually from single or two small LED desk lamps. Im not really sure what I do wrong, is it because I place them too close or I should use larger light source (but then I would also illuminate background and I try to keep it unlit like >>3858685 said to draw attention to figure). Im pretty sure that this kind of problem as addressed at least couple of times in the past but can't find the answer on my own.

Secondary related question is to figure out what to do, when object in question is made out of pieces both very dark and very light (lots of those kits have contrasting elements like dark blue with white and bright red). But once I figure previous question, answer for second should be not far off.

And again thanks for suggestions.

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>>3858743
the first time someone clicks a pic it takes much longer to load, after that it's cached so it loads fast.

The issue is really for the lucky person who's going to be the first one to view it. So I guess. If you're still going to upload 4MB photos. at least go load it so it doesn't take multiple seconds for someone else.
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>>3858127
Very funny and admittedly cool pic
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>>3858913
>the first time someone clicks a pic it takes much longer to load, after that it's cached so it loads fast.
>The issue is really for the lucky person who's going to be the first one to view it.

Yeah, it turns out that's not true as well. Have you got any more of your crazy theories, or can you finally stop annoying people about file sizes?
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>>3858689
based
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>>3858925
I wanted to make other classic art inspirations but in the end just done that one. I found it funny.
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>>3858880
Eh, real models aren't hard to find with a few hundred dollars and even for free if you and your photography look ok. Never as many possibilities as now, really.

Of course shooting figures is nice and fairly easy... or you can expend more time to get "perfection", as you prefer. I personally don't really feel like making them more lifelike, but you could. I'd work a bit more with perspective, maybe long focal lengths, and backgrounds. At least just relative darkness is not doing much for me.
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>>3859218
Do more, honestly I think thats a cool concept to start an insta over
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>>3858110
>At the other hand, I wanted to make lighting more "dynamic". Im still struggling with proper setup so I welcome any suggestions.
I'd suggest getting some YN660 or whatever the newer versions are. More powerful portable remote controllable flash units. At the extreme, even studio flashes - but that expense isn't profoundly necessary. For figures, I find it easiest to use them on $3-4 ish chinese rigid leg mini tripod stands in most situations.

You do NOT actually need TTL metering or such [I have good TTL flashes, for this use it doesn't really look nice in most cases and you want to manually adjust them either way which isn't even hard since figures don't move]. But you might want the on-camera controller since it's usually nicer to have all flashes off camera.

You can also improvise with other lightt sources but a set of powerful flashes with the same colors and a remote trigger is faster.
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>>3862068
Yea, the fun pictures have something.

Myfigurecollection.net is specialized on this [also relevant if you anon just want to see some more figure images], although I'm sure another audience also will like to see your work on instagram.
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>>3862068
For some reason, when I tried to make IG account, it threw error during creation and send no email but when I tried to log in on that email, it said it is blocked. Probably some automated stuff but Im afraid that if I will keep trying, my IP will be marked as "bad" (if it isn't already, I heard stories that FB/IG is very strange acting now toward new accounts).

That's why I considered Twitter but Im still not sure.

>>3862083
Heard about that, yeah, interesting site. Thanks for pointing it out however.

>>3862082
I do have remote controlled flash unit (YN685) with controller itself (YN622N-TX) and experimented with it a bit but I clearly lack experience required to set up proper exposition times and flash power or Im doing it completely wrong again (like with histograms). Probably matter of practice but so far I was doing it solely with small lamps as light sources. Maybe I should change that.
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>>3858103
if you want specific advice, id say heavier editing suits the style of this set more (but watch the highlights her purple scarf looks blown out white in this one). generally you can do what you want, but over the top editing typically gets shit on here and minimal editing gets called boring on insta. sounds like you want to do some of both, so do some of both :) maybe try a light and a heavy version of each image and see which you prefer that day or something.
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anon get or make yourself a soft light box, many of your shots the highlights are blown

it will improve your images by a ton
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>>3862269
I made something like this so far, inside is piece of trace paper. What I did wrong?

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>>3862293
Too small
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>>3862260
>I do have remote controlled flash unit (YN685) with controller itself (YN622N-TX) and experimented with it a bit but I clearly lack experience required to set up proper exposition times and flash power or Im doing it completely wrong again (like with histograms).
It shouldn't be that hard, really. Doesn't actually require especially sophisticated functionality on camera for most shots either.

On camera: ISO exactly 100, white balance fixed to 5200k or 5400k or whatever these lights approximately are [just for easier review], shutter to whatever is convenient (handheld like 1/125 or with the camera on a tripod maybe 1/4 just for a not too weird working speed). Then you mainly control the camera aperture and flash light levels for now. Shouldn't be too hard with that.

Bouncing off walls / a softbox is also a decent idea if they're white enough and you want some diffuse light rather than mainly harsh dramatic light.





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