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What would you buy?Nikon seems good for the money, R6 seems like a good buy as well.[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Image-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-Hand
>>3826030Nikon is a zombie corp at this point. Canon or Snoy would be my choice if I went mirrorless.
>>3826030R6, especially if you want some cheap EF glass. It's essentially R5, but lower res and cheap sd cards.
>>3826039Why even buy into the new system if you are going to just use old glass? the point of upgrading was to get away from the limitations of dslr glass.
>>3826056Sigma art EF glass is perfect on the R6
>>3826030Canon is made in Japan. Sony is made in China, probably by slave labor, and Nikon is going to be Viet/Thai/Malay mystery meat going forward.The R6 is the far better camera, and the high ISO noise performance will blow you away, but you might be wishing you had the higher resolution of the R5.>>3826039>It's essentially R5, but lower res and cheap sd cards.You can use an SD card in the R5, it has one SD slot.
Maybe it's the poorfag in me but if the R6 were $500 cheaper it would be unstoppable (and i'd buy it)
>>3826056What limitations? All mk2 2.8 zooms can be had for fair price while having no noticible loss of quality and af performance compared to their RF counterparts. Not everyone needs greatest and latest, in fact many older EF lens perform better on R bodies so it's a win win. >>3826067Yes that's true, but with R6 you have 2 sd slots so one for backup, meanwhile on R5 you'll have only one if you don't buy expensive cfe cards.
>>3826161>meanwhile on R5 you'll have only one if you don't buy expensive cfe cards.If you can afford an R5, but you can't afford cards for it, then maybe you should save your money for a bit longer.
>>3826067>Canon is made in Japan. Sony is made in ChinaMy a7r4 says made in thailand.
>>3826030What will you use it for?
>>3826056all RF lenses are just reshelled EF lenses with the EF to rf adapter welded in
>>3826224>>3826056This isn't true of most of them. You're thinking of Sony. Most RF designs are slightly sharper and focus slightly faster (on EOS R cameras at least). And even the ones that optically, produce similar results to their EF counterpart, like the RF 50mm f/1.8, there is no "built-in adapter," since the overall lens is shorter than the EF+adapter combo.
>>3826233the only Sony lenses that do that are the old Sigma DG HSM Art lenses
>>3826056>the point of upgrading was to get away from the limitations of dslr glass.What limitations? Shorter flange distance helps with *some* lens designs, but it doesn't do a thing for most of them. Even where it helps, that doesn't mean that an older design for SLRs was "bad." Sharp EF glass is sharp EF glass on EF or RF bodies. EF glass will perform just as well in all respects on an R6 as on a DSLR. Better in fact if you consider the superior AF and built in IBIS.
>>3826198Mainly family portraits, some action, street architecture and landscape.
>>3826067Ngl 20mp is enough if you don’t drop heavily.
>>3826056>the point of upgrading was to get away from the limitations of dslr glassthe point of upgrading was to get people to buy new glassftfy
>Nikonsucks>R6mehI would get a Canon EOS RP.
>>3826370Doesn’t that thing have a shit evf and garbage dynamic range... pass
>>3826373>shit evfIt is fine for me>garbage dynamic rangeWhat can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.
both! see which one you like! :)
>>3826533its common knowledge the rp sensor is legacy junk chosen to appease the "omg its fullframe" crowd. it is garbage and has almost no ability to be push pulled
>>3826533>mfw ancient crusty ancient fooji demolishes OMG RF FOOL FRAME
>>3826365an iphone is all you need.
>>3826543The ability to pull highlights is about the same across all sensors due to the nature of digital. The ability to push shadows is about +2.5-3ev on the RP. That's more than enough 99% of the time. DR is honestly a fucking meme.>>3826547If you're underexposing shots by 5ev when you have an EVF then you are too retarded for photography.
>>3826556yes, but a fucking micro four thirds sensor has more dynamic range than the stupid rp sensor.
>>3826030both are garbage. patricians choose fuji.z
>>3826564>yes, but a fucking micro four thirds sensor has more dynamic range than the stupid rp sensor.They're actually about the same. But m43 won't have the sharpness or high ISO.Base ISO DR has nothing to do with sensor size and everything to do with photo site architecture. High ISO has nearly nothing to do with photo site architecture and everything to do with sensor size. It amazes me how people consistently get this reversed.Yes, the RP has basically the worst DR of any shipping FF. That's still +2.5ev or +3ev with a bit of NR. Still more than film ever had. Still enough for 99% of shooting situations, and you can bracket/blend the remaining 1%. (Which are daytime interior real estate shots and the harshest sunset landscape shots. And with some of those you will be bracketing even with a Sony or Nikon.)If you really need more DR there's the 5D4, R, R6, R5, 1DX mark III, etc. If you just want to shit talk because you can't even afford $1k for a FF camera then make a wormji thread.
>>3826564>yes, but a fucking micro four thirds sensor has more dynamic range than the stupid rp sensor.>>3826585>They're actually about the same.Yeah, I'm gonna have to call bullshit on both of you.
>>3826590They can both handle +3ev with some NR. They both fall off a cliff at +4ev.
>>3826590>https://www.dxomark.com/canon-eos-rp-sensor-review/>where it achieved a maximum of just 11.9 EV at base ISO. same website says the em1ii has 12.8 EV of dynamic range.>>3826593the image at >>3826547 really rustled your jimmies, didn't it? its a fucking embarrasing performance for a modern full frame sensor still on sale now to be even compared to MFT and still lose badly. >>3826543 is right.
>>3826585>If you really need more DR there's the 5D4, R, R6, R5, 1DX mark III, etc.uhhh i wouldn't be recommending that legacy junk against contemporary mft sensors. dynamic range from dxomark:em1ii 12.8 EV7dii 11.8 EV1dsii 12 EV5ds 12.4 EV
>>3826615>muh dxo>muh lying eyes>>3826617>pic related
>>3826163You'd be surprised how many retards use R5 with SD cards and Ef lens. It's kinda tragic to see it on facebook's R5 group. I tried putting pretty fast sony tough card once and camera literally slowed down like 50%. Thing I mean't with R6 you get cheaper media and smaller file sizes. Considering Z6ii uses cfe+sd its a win for R6.
>>3826547Fuji wins again.Sensor size autists BTFO.
>>3826646that large-scale chroma noise on the Canon is awful
>>3826033You'd be implying Nikon's bodies are actually made by a different brand and sold under a different brand name in certain markets
>>3826547Holy fuck I thought the RP bashing was just a meme.
>>3826617>uhhh i wouldn't be recommending that legacy junk against contemporary mft sensors>>3826646MFTurds BTFO
>>3826365Then neither of those is the way to go. Get some nice APSC with travelzoom, 12mm f2 and 35mm f2 or so and you are covered. It will be for a fraction of the cost of FF, it will work just as well and it will be smaller and lighter so you will carry it more often.
>>3826547>+5EVWho cares desu
>>3826217>>3826190yea i can't imagine dropping that much on something Thai made. will be getting an R5
I love my z6, but buy what you like. Don’t let internet gearfags tell you what to buy.
>>3826030the nikon looks more like a fuji so it is better desu
>>3827922I love my z6 as well. Haven't used the z6ll, but I imagine it's a fine camera also.
>>3827924Fuji looks like a shit Nikon