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Gear General

Big Boy Edition

Post about gear
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>>3698530
I wish I could afford a decent constant aperture zoom.
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>>3698535
I had a brainfart and didn't read properly, it was the 28-75. But I wanted the 17-28.
Good thing I got it cancelled.

Apparently the 17-28 sold out way back when they sold the batch for 750. I should have bought it back then, because now the grey market shops ask 760 for them.
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been out of the digi game for a while, shoot mostly medium format film
I'm in need of a decent work horse digi camera for some client work, doesn't have to be amazing just flexible
thinking a canon 5d mk3 + 24-85~ lens or maybe a nikon d600? any recommendations, I have no idea what the good base bodies are anymore
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>>3698540
D810?
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>>3698540
D800 is pretty cheap nowadays if you hunt around and it's phenomenal. Sensor is still competitive with new high end bodies, resolution is great, good weather sealing, and 1/8000 shutter speed. Burst mode is slow at 4fps but aside from that it's a beast.
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>>3698543
yeah they seem reasonable
I'm selling a mamiya 7 to fund it so I'm thinking I'll get around AU$2k for it and have that amount to put towards a body + lens. D800 bodies are going for around $1200~ so I have $800 for a lens to cover a few bases.
What are the canon L equivalents for a nikon? 24-85/105~ should be enough.
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>>3698551
How much are you selling the 7 for?
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>>3698556
not sure yet, I traded a guy my x100f for it because selling a mamiya 7 (body only) will net me more than an x100f to fund a solid digi set up
I'm thinking maybe AU$2.5k~
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>>3698551
Nikon likes to call out their high end stuff with gold rings.
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>>3698558
ill trade you an x100f for it?
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>>3698562
not sure if troll or you didn't understand what I said LOL

>>3698559
the 24-85 2.8 looks decent at a reasonable price, or is a sigma or something going to be better?
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>>3698535
Do you guys think a constant aperture of f/4 is too slow?
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What's a good old 28mm I can use for adapting?
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>>3698574
That depends on you and your use case. For me absolutely not, I love the flexbility an f/4 brings, and with IBIS I can't notice any difference in picture quality.
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Is there something in the mavic mini weight class coming with DNG photo raw?
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>>3698574
It depends on how you photograph. I always tend to aim for 8-11 when I shoot, so for me 4 is alright.
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>>3698540
Pentax K-1 with 24-70 WR or 28-105 WR lens
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my big boys

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>>3698645
Too bad I can't post my big boy here because porn is not allowed
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>>3698579
Seconding this question & adding my own.
Does anyone have any experience using a Yashica ML 28mm f2.8?

I'm also looking for a 28mm but already have a ML 50mm f1.7 & an ML 70-210 f4.5, so it'd be cool to have a full set
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>>3698657
If you're thinking about the yashica 28mm made for Contax, it's very good! Almost as good as the Zeiss variation.
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>>3698662
Yes that's the one

I'm very impressed with the 50mm
The zoom isn't as nice, but produces passable results. The benefit of that lens is just how nice it is to use. Push-pull truly is wonderful.
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Trying to resist the urge to go buy a 24mm lens. Local camera store has a decent deal on it. Don't have anything wider than a 50mm.
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>>3698665
I've actually only used it on the contaxes it was made for, so I can't really speak on how it converts. But I guess it should be fine. What sensor do you have?
I have the Zeiss 50mm 1.7. It's probably my favorite lens. Old zooms tend to be pretty bad, but push/pull zoom is great!
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>>3698694
APS-C Canon, 50mm is kinda tight for general purpose which is why I'd like the 28
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I have an EOS M50 with the M series 22mm f2 pancake lens’s. Love it. I really enjoy using 50mm equivalent on my iPhone so I want that in my next lens.

Is there any major downside to getting an adapter and buying an EF 50 lens? Cheaper overall than buying the M series 50 mm equivalent.

Vello Auto Lens Adapter for Canon EF/EF-S Lens to Canon EOS M Camera System
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/983576-REG/vello_lae_cm_cef_auto_lens_adapter_for.html

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 STM Lens
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1143786-REG/canon_0570c002_ef_50mm_f_1_8_stm.html

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Whelp, bought the nikkor 24mm f/2.8. Finally feel like I've got a decent set up now with 24, 50, and 90.
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>>3698695
For sure! That 45mm equivalent will be great! :) you actually motivated me to get an adapter for my mft
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>>3698574
for FF no. for APS-C or smaller, likely
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>>3698807
>nikkor 24mm f/2.8
the af-d? I used it for many years along with the 50mm 1.8g, enjoyed the combo a lot
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>>3698574
Only on Canon. Nikon and Pentax does well with f/4
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>>3698855
It's the slightly earlier AF-N, so same lens but no distance chip. I also have a 50mm 1.8 but it's the D and I've got a last gen Tamron SP 90mm macro. Just switched to full frame and I think I've got a pretty decent set up! Looking forward to some nice sharp photos.
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>buy new lens
>put filter and hood on
>take picture
>slightly raised hood vignettes it at infinity focus
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Does software count as gear ?
What do you guys think about DxO photolab ? It seems to work really well with my 90d raws meanwhile Adobe doesn't even have a profile for the 90d.
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I have a D7000 and want a 35mm lens. Might get an FX camera in the next two years maybe. Should I get the 35 f/1.8? or the older 35 f/2?
https://kenrockwell.com/nikon/35mm-f18.htm
https://kenrockwell.com/nikon/35af.htm
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>>3699037
Get the 35 f/2. Full frame is such a massive leap you'll definitely want to upgrade down the line. First high ISO shot on full frame I wanted to kick myself for wasting time on APS-C. It's a revelation.
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long time no see /p/.
probably does not exist but worth a shot, nikon FF sensor, looking for a semi-decent telephoto lens that will be used in the 400mm+ range for $800-700~, will buy used as usual.
was looking at the Sigma 150-600mm f/5-6.3 DG OS HSM for $700 which really doesn't seem very good even on 35mm, what's my options here?
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>>3699065
Just checked keh and they have a few options in your price range. Go take a look.
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>>3699059
Whats a fair price, im seeing 250-290 range on ebay
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I'm a hybrid shooter and also a Sony user.

Should I go for the A7III or the A7RIV
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>>3699132
That's about right.
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>>3699163
Sell all, buy gfx.
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What's the best 35mm equiv for mft?
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>>3699223
I should add: best and cheapest. The Oly 17mm us really cheap but I have a bad track record with cheap oly mft lenses.
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I'm looking to get a new digital camera as an upgrade from an entry-level canon DLSR. I am thinking of using it for part-time work in the future (nightclub photography and other gigs with not much experience required). Do I need to buy a professional fullframe mirrorless? I am looking at getting a Fuji X-T3 but I'm not sure a crop sensor will give good enough results for this.
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>>3699236
Depends on how much you want to blow (money-wise)
You can do okay with a DSLR, but for nighttime gigs you might as well get a fullframe camera, now it depends if you have the money for a BSI sensor or a fast fucker like a sports camera with a low MP sensor (12 to 18).
Honestly it comes down to how much money you have, in terms of workflow a BSI mirrorless camera will get you an easier time, especially in how you can compose on the EVF with exposure meddling and focus peaking.
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>>3698674

buy it.
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Pretty new to photography and don't trust the thousand consoomer articles on the internet about it. Got a Nikon 5100 and 35mm lens, plus a tripod. Anything else absolutely essential? Would also appreciate resources to learn to improve if anybody has suggestions.
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>>3699067
thank you I just looked, I saw a tamron which was a little interesting but no other real good options, though it's just as expected.
400mm+ telephoto glass really requires you to put in some money if you want decent optics with autofocus, it hasn't changed in the last few years.
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>>3699244
A kit zoom lens would be nice to have, also get a sensor cleaning pen and lens cleaner brushes/pads. Some comfy messenger bag, and a water bottle.
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>>3699244

patience.

also cambridge in colour is great.
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>>3699065
>Nikon FF
Cheap decent option is the older AF 300/4 lens, maybe a 1.4x TC and use crop mode.
Not so cheap decent option is the 80-400 II, don't know how well it plays with a TC.
Alternative not so cheap decent option is the Nikkor 200-500/5.6

Shitass option you should never consider let alone spend money on: Anything Sigma telezoom (Tamron 150-600 is better isn't really by that much)
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>>3699249
>>3699250
Thanks anons, appreciate the practical advice. I'll check out Cambridge in Colour
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>>3699254
>>3699250
Also look into Understanding Exposure by Bryan Peterson
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>>3699065
what about a used mft body and one of their longer primes?
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>>3699242
I did. It's nice and sharp in the center but holy chromab.
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>>3698303
Following up to my last question:
D800 or D750 bros?
Do i need 36mp for full frame or is 24mp fine?
Both are going for around $650-750 on ebay
750 is newer despite lower number
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>>3699307
I went D800 and I've been very happy with it. High ISO performance has been great, focus is blazing fast, images crop really well, and the viewfinder is wonderfully big and bright. I didn't see any need to go newer.

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>>3699318
Is having 36mb RAW files an issue for you at all? I guess i could just buy more HDD space for it.
Do you know why these higher end cameras have a CF slot? Is it better than SD?
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>>3699307
Depends, low light performance of the 750 is famous but for resolution the 8XX series has been pretty good. There's been debate over the noise profile, the 7XX is somewhat known for its "film-like" noise/grain but i would rather have more resolution than slightly less distracting noise.
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thanks. I plan to shoot largely city/urban photography with a wide angle any some detail shots with a telephoto, so a D800's resolution might be better for me?

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>>3699322
The raws are bigger than that. They're like 70mb. Space is cheap and so are fast SD cards so I don't mind. I mean you're getting more than 10,000 raw files for each terabyte of storage.

As for CF slots, I think they used to be faster than SD cards of the same time period. Original CF cards seem pretty useless now though. For still photos though SD cards got real fast and big.
>>3699325
>>3699331
Here's a high ISO photo. Downscaling from the higher resolution sensor makes a difference as well.
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>>3699333
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>>3699325
>>3699333
>>3699335
That looks pretty great. I have a 50 AF-D that i'd want to try out, and that looks promising.

Slight tangent, but what about the 810, is it worth the few extra hundred bucks just to get non-AA filter I've heard mixed thoughts.
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>>3699307
Pentax K-1
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>>3699345
That was actually taken with a 50 AF-D. The D lenses are some of the best deals out there.
>non-AA filter
The D800E doesn't have the AA filter if you can find one for cheap. It's such a high res sensor though that it doesn't make much of a difference.
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>>3699349
the first image the 800E looks pretty nice on that fence but I could live with the 800 if I had to, maybe adjusting sharpness as needed.
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>>3699331
In my case, for urban and city stuff, i would rather have better low-light/SNR than resolution, a step or two is practically half an hour more of shooting past blue hour, which is great.
For wide angle stuff and details with telephoto, that depends on the quality of the lens but yeah in that case resolution is more important... if in a tripod, if handheld then it's low-light/high ISO performance. Wide Angle City stuff sounds like borderline architecture, that needs resolution.
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>>3699360
The low iso raw files sharpen really well. They're so high res that it's tough to oversharpen them and notice any kind of artifacting without a 100% crop. If you're feeling tasteless you can basically max the slider and when you downscale it'll be damn hard to notice.
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>>3699362
yeah i might as well say its just architecture. i love photographing buildings and details. so maybe 36mp will be nice

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Technically gear, anyone have any solid info or resources on finding a good photo editing laptop? Hopefully one with a colour accurate screen and decent graphic and processing capabilities for mostly Photoshop and Lightroom. I'd like to get to into some video work too.
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>>3699384
I use an iPad pro with Lightroom and I'm very happy.
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>>3699391
I see the merits of the iPad but I'm also interested in a laptop for other things including work with a keyboard.
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>>3699384
just get a high modern end thinkpad if you want something that will last you a long time.
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>>3699393
I don't personally have one but I hear the attachable keyboards are quite good.
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>>3698724
The lens will remain 50mm on that adapter if it has no glass in it, on canon aps-c it will have fov equivalent to 50*1.6 = 80mm
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>>3699717
That DF is so sexy.

What's your favorite camera? Which one really gets your goat?
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>>3699394

This but only with a decent IPS screen, most of the entry-level and mid-range Thinkpads have garbage ass screens and shitty trackpads. If you want something with some balls and a good screen find a P-series made in the last couple of years there's even a version with a Xeon chip in it. They are made like a brick shithouse and you'll kill yourself trying to kill it.

They do last forever, I have an old Pentium 200mhz MMX Thinkpad I play DOS games on and my track car has a T30 in it.

Regards, /tpg/.
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>>3698303
I use a Minolta srt100 and a Nikond40x. I have an emergency nikonEM but I hate it. I use vintage glass on the digital one.

How shitty is my gear?
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>>3699718

Right now the flavor of the week is the Yashica T2, but if I had to sell it all and keep only one body and lens it would be the Photomic F with the 35 1.4 AIs

It's so uniform and tanky and every time you fire it, you hear this tactile "thwop" of the mirror coming up and the shutter firing, it's the same reason I love the RB67 which feels like shooting a bolt-action rifle.

The F I can go anywhere and shoot whatever I want and no one can say shit because I look like a pudgy college student in film class. It doesn't feel like a camera it feels like a family heirloom or an old Ferrari, Nikon really turned the camera world upside down when they released it in 1959. Some of the best images in the world were made on these things. The fit and finish is glorious on them, the seals are made of cloth not cheap ass foam. I can smash Charlie's skull in with the prism finder and take their picture afterward for the Stars and Stripes.

Let's be honest, I fucking suck ass but the F is the most fun I've had with an old film camera I don't care if my pictures suck ass I have a great time with it and if you've been thinking of getting one, do it they're cheap.

The Df is nice too, has all of the same merits (and public perception) of the F but digital. I love them all, every one of those bastards does something different and I do use them all, but if I had to shoot one camera for the rest of my life (assuming I could get film indefinitely) it would be the F.
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>>3699724

EM is unironically based. I shot on its cousin the FG when I was in college. EM with the Series E 50 is the best Nikon carry piece you can buy, it's so small. You can fit it in your pocket. Don't have to worry about exposure or nothing just point, focus and shoot.

SRT100, those were cool too. Hope you got the 58 1.4 for it. Old Minolta glass is sexy af

D40x is the only camera you need.
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>>3699725
>you hear this tactile "thwop" of the mirror coming up
this is not a good thing, shutter shock ruins photos.
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>>3699726
>no eye AF
>no wysiwyg
I don't think your average zoomer could figure it out.
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>>3699731
Mirror slap is soulful as fuck.
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>>3699734

I had one of those eye AF Canons years ago, a 7NE and I loved it. Did my brother's wedding on it. Very underrated technology. I don't know why it didn't make the jump to digital.
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>>3699726
Dont particularly enjoy the aperture priority and auto only mode in the EM. Had to look up the FG seems nice. The FG20 seems like a real treasure. You got lots of good cameras. I got decent glass all around and something nifty to sell. Fuck digital I want to invest in 120 film.
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>>3699731
>shutter shock

Focal shutter pleb detected
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>>3699731

Considering the F weighs as much as a house and needs an oversize permit to be transported across state lines, I don't think mirror slap is going to affect my photos.

The mirror in the RB67 is the size of a small cellphone and slaps like a Mexican novela chick and even at 1/30 (on the 50mm) there's no shutter shock.
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>>3699742

I've shot every format from 110 up, 120 film is the most practical. You don't need a big ass RB to have fun on 120.

The one thing I like about the EM is the auto mode, you can focus more on the shot than what you need to make it happen. Program modes and full auto isn't always a bad thing. Most of the time in my automated exposure cameras I am either full auto or aperture priority. The T2, is fully auto and only controls I get are to turn the flash off. Makes great images.

When I'm just walking around my carry piece is actually the T2.
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>>3699753

Well, I've done it all up to 5x7 at least.

You can find Kodak Brownies that shoot 120 film. Mamiya 645s are affordable now, I paid more for the Photomic F than I did for my old 645 1000s
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I recently got back into photography after going on hikes with my friends and bringing along my k-5. I was thinking about getting something new and for how I'm usually gonna end up using it a mirrorless seems like it would be the best choice as I don't really shoot sports and I already have the k-5. Would you recommend a sony a7ii or a Fuji kt3? This is probably gonna be a camera I use for a long time before upgrading so I liked the idea of Ibis and a full frame sensor, but people seem to really like the handling and colors of the kt3, and the lenses tend to be cheaper for the fuji as well which is a big deal for me. What do you guys think?
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Tamron is releasing a new 70-300 F/4.5-6.3 RXD
The weight is an impressive 545 gram.

It will have the fast and no-noise AF motor, and the weight practically makes it usable for APS-C systems as well.

For reference
>Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6L IS USM
1050 gram
>Nikon AF-P NIKKOR 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6E ED
680 gram
>Sony FE 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 G OSS
854 gram
>Tamron SP 70-300mm f/4-5.6 Di VC USD
765 gram

And an APS-C lens
>Sony E 70-350mm f/4.5-6.3 G OSS
625 gram
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>>3699806
>sony a7ii
I'm a sonyfag myself, but I would never recommend that camera.
The only mirrorless camera right now with acceptable battery life is the A6600. So that's what I would point you towards.

Tamron is releasing some interesting lenses on E-mount, which are lightweight and highly usable for APS-C at well. That's your affordable ticket.
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>>3699809
The a6600 is a bit more than I really want to spend, the kt3 discounted with the kit lens is less than just the a6600 body rn which Is why I was leaning towards that.
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>>3699807
But that 70-180 2.8 tho
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>>3699816
It's the only one that won't disappoint you in the battery life department. DSLRs can operate the viewfinder without draining the battery, and there is just no way a mirrorless can keep up unless they can approach that ~900 cipa threshold.

I think they can be had for 900 dollars if you register a B&H .edu account.
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>>3699818
There are soooo many options right now for Tamron fags. And the scary thing is they are all great options.
28-75 + 70-180 F2,8
28-75 + 70-300
28-75 + 100-400 Sigma
17-28 + 28-200

It's a good luxury when you can tailor down your kit to match the workflow you need.
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>28-75 + 70-180 F2,8
>28-75 + 70-300
>28-75 + 100-400 Sigma
>17-28 + 28-200
And even
17-28 + 70-180 F2,8
17-28 + 70-300

And none of these options exceed 2000 dollars.
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sonyfags are poorfags who cant afford sony glass
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>>3699823
I just made an .edu account and they're still $1400
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>>3699837
Tamron and Sigma is the way of hobbyists. And there is nothing wrong with that.

What's impressive about Tamron and Sigma is they are standardising a new generation of 0 dB AF motors.
That's better than most lens makufacturers out there.
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>>3699840
Ebb and flow I guess.

The edu account thing was a sale last winter. My bad.
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>>3699828

Don't forget the 15-30 2.8 VC, that is bad ass shit. Love mine.
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>>3699841
I like the zipping noises my AF-D lenses make.
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>>3699807
Pentax HD DA 55-300mm F4-5.8 ED WR is 450g, just saying
Although it is an APS-C lens.
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>>3700084
Yeah, lenses made for smaller sensors are supposed to be smaller and lighter.
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I need a smooth video tilt head for my monopod.
I already tried pic related and it doesn't suit.
Ideally one that doesnt come with its own quick release plate.

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nikkor 24-85mm 3.5 VR

or

sigma 24-70mm 2.8 if ex dg hsm

or something better for a reasonable price

to go with a nikon d750 or d800
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New 85mm F1,4
630 gram
1200 dollars
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Redpill me on Nikon z50.
I have d3300 and some lenses, thinking about upgrading.
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What do you guys like for a small-ish camera bag? Three lenses and a pro body DSLR.
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>>3700656
Case Logic SLR Shoulder bag (DCB-307)

I can carry a single lens, a SLR camera with a lens and a flash
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>>3700646
what exactly are you looking for in ugprading to mirrorless?
might be comfortable to use but the image quality will be about the same with your lenses.
>>3700541
tamron 24-70/2.8 G2(don't get the G1) is better than both.
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Really old cine lenses like the Cooke Speed Pancro, and panavison, what was the mount that was commonly used?

I have seen some that are adapted to pl mount, but some of the cine lenses from the 20's - 40's seem like c mount or d mount. These obviously won't give much coverage on a super 35 sensor.

I've been wanting to find a really old cine lens like the Cooke that I can adapt to Sony e mount for decent coverage.

Any ideas?
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>>3700646
Buy a used D800 instead. Upgrading from crop to crop is retarded.
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>>3700709
Depending on vintage/series, either Arri Standard or Arri Bayonet. Standard can be adapted to Bayonet, which in turn I think can be adapted to PL (and from there, anything really).
If there exists a direct adapter to your final mount, you'll have to look for yourself.
It's certainly possible, it just takes a CAD file and then export it as STEP and hand it to a CNC shop. If someone went through the trouble to do that and offer a commercial product is another thing.
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What’s the catch? For my EOS M50

Sigma 30mm f/1.4 DC DN Contemporary Lens for Canon EF-M with Altura Photo Essential Accessory and Travel Bundle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B081QNNCCJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_oKFkFb9ANZ0V5

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trying to decide between Fujifilm X-A7 and Pentax K-70. I know that seems like a weird comparison but I already have Pentax lenses and since Pentax doesn't make a mirrorless the K-70 is my only option. I would rather have the X-A7 as I do not need or want a mirror, but Fuji lenses are expensive as fuck. are the cheap 3rd party 50mm any good?
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>>3700884
The 16mm and the 56mm has slightly better AF.
It lacks image stabilisation.

Other than that Sigma and Tamron don't have 1st party tax, so their lenses are great value.
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>>3699251
>Shitass option you should never consider let alone spend money on: Anything Sigma telezoom (Tamron 150-600 is better isn't really by that much)
lol no
https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=978&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=7&API=0&LensComp=1079&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=5&APIComp=0

>>3699065
sigma's 100-400 can be had for that much new.

>>3699349
>The D lenses are some of the best deals out there
Because the D stands for dead end, and are largely trash compared to modern glass
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>>3700690
>tamron 24-70/2.8 G2(don't get the G1) is better than both.

is this true? looks like a capable wide ranging lens
how much should I be looking to spend? I've seen a few around AU$1200~
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>>3700690
>(don't get the G1)
Have plenty of G1 and even before the whole G and Di era Tamron glass, they are fine and tack sharp.
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>>3700986
Thanks! Think I’ll need IS for photography? I never shoot video, doubt I’ll start soon
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>>3701206
More like you don't really have any alternative with IS to begin with.
That's E-mount talk.

The Sigma lens is very good image quality. But of course you also have a native lens from Canon, it's just costs a little bit extra.
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>>3701164
look at the corner, it's absolute trash when using a 35mm sensor, the G2 is such a big improvement.
I still have my tamron 24-70 G1 for my APS-C camera because it is indeed sharp, just godawful at the edges at any focal length and aperture.
>>3701093
whatever you feel like you want to spend, get it used though.
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Is the a huge reason to get a nikon d750 over a d610? I was thinking about getting the d750 but B&H has a d610 with the 50mm 1.8g and battery grip for 900 dollars.
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I'm thinking of getting the Lenovo X1 Carbon.
i7-10510U
14.0" UHD (3840 x 2160) WVA, glossy with Dolby Vision™, HDR 400, 500 nits
16GB Ram
1TB SSD

$2800 Canadian
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>>3701235
You can get a d800 and used battery grip for that much.
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>>3701290

For 2800 find a used P series and have a removable battery and 99% of the processing power.

Better to ask this in /tpg/ over on /g/
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>>3701228
If you can't use an older lens to its strengths and compose or set it up accordingly you won't be much better with a modern lens.
Pixel peeping does not make a good photographer.
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LADS

HELP
Want to buy a camera that i guess is an action camera, that has good anti shake tech..
Seeing all kinds of cameras all with different reviews
some say the audio is too low, some say the battery is terrible..

any one own one they like?
id like to spend 100 to 200
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>>3701290
14" 4k is gonna suck unless you hold the screen to your face also Intel offers less performance per dollar and per watt at the moment, look for something with a Ryzen 4000 series CPU.
Photoshop and even canon dpp4 use as many cores as possible so more cores are better on top of AMD currently beating Intel in single thread performance as well

Take a look at the Lenovo t14s
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>>3701479
What do you want to use it for?
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>>3701583
all honesty, i want a camcorder that just isnt so damn shaky when i watch it back.
higher def would be great, sport related shit would be cool too, like going snorkling.
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Which telephoto lens for my 80D should I get (500$ budget)? Is 70-200 L F4 without IS worth it? I'm not too keen on spending too much money, since I plan on switching to Sony in about year or two...
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What's another camera that I could get for photography. I have a D3400 so anything at similair or more power would be nice. And i''m looking for a flash for both cameras.
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>>3701632
No, without IS your going to need to shoot at 1/1000th all the time unless your using a tripod
Buy the EF 70-300mm IS USM II instead, more reach has IS, almost identical to L series in terms of sharpness and focuses way faster than the old 70-200 f/4 L you can always adapt it to sony later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iws0RqitJUc
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>>3701632
also consider the EF-S 55-250mm IS STM its just as sharp and a bit cheaper but wont adapt to sony down the road unless you use it in crop mode
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>>3701642
Define more power. Do you mean more megapickles? Or do you mean a higher intensity flash?
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>>3701654
I mean something with more pixels I can just get a flash if I needed more power. Also want to make sure what's shown in the viewfinder is what ends up in the pic since the d3400 has this thing where a little more of what's shown is taken in the picture.
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>>3701656
It's been a while since I have shot on the D3*** series Nikons but as far as I can recall what you see in live view should be what you get in terms of exposure. If you want a camera with a higher megapixel count than your current model, I would first ask why? But I do understand that you have your reasons and that's up to you my friend.
My reccomendation would be moving to a full frame platform from Nikon/Canon/Sony. Take a look at the options from each and make a decision, all three have fantastic full frame options in both mirrorless and DSLR (excluding Sony who are only mirrorless).
The differences are academic at best and I would advise you to focus mostly on what you think would fit best in your hand and produce images you are happy with straight out of camera to make editing easier on you.
Don't worry about your old Nikon lenses there would be no point using them on a full frame Nikon anyway, so don't feel tied to them.
Don't become embroiled in the bickering here on /p/ just pick what you feel fits you best.
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>>3701312
I use AF-D glass and can appreciate them, the tamron 24-70 F/2.8 is just ugly and unpleasant.
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>>3701663
Well I just really want a second camera that's the only reason and man some of those DLSR are expensive.
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>>3701672
Then I don't know what to tell you man. You get what you pay for.
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>>3701676
Very true
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>>3701290
Get a MBP16
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>>3702073
hiking setup
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>>3702074
Very pocketable.
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New Smegma 85 F1,4.

Not bad. Not bad. But the AF motor also needs to be tip top, otherwise this optics is wasted.

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>>3699384
I’ve got a MacBook Pro, blazing fast compared to other computers I’ve used.
Was never a fan until I borrowed a friend’s one on a trip. Bought one as soon as I got home.
It’s a few years old now but still fast as when I got it. Never crashes or slows down.
Got a new iPad Pro to replace the one my son stood on. Can’t imagine doing editing on it even if it’s capable.
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>>3699393
Brydge are hands down the best iPad keyboard.
The larger one has a touch pad too.
https://www.brydge.com.au/?gclid=CjwKCAjw1K75BRAEEiwAd41h1FVc7iTlPwTuWEgvyRbJ7cg-BwsPpg1MYQtUOVArIUFdTzm4DjGuThoCSSwQAvD_BwE

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Sigma just BTFO'd their 1,2 kilogram monstrosity lens with a lens half the size.

Just 3 years ago, this same company claimed mirrorless wouldn't bring about any advantages for longer lenses. Hmm, that sentiment didn't age so wekk.
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>>3702082
Its not as bad as you might think, i also stuff a 210mm in cargo pants, the only problem i have is with cased 50mm. Guess i have to buy a backpack. I was thinking about one of the f-stops medium ones, anyone have any experience?
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Doctor Sigma explains why large Diameter aperture can help image quality.

And also explains how light rays actually reaches sensor corner from opposite diagonal.
Which explains why it's actually an advantage when the sensor mount covers the corner edge a bit to block flare reflections.
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>>3702117
distortion and vignetting is shit on a newer lens tho
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>>3702189
The new lens is sharper after-correction than the old lens.
So why does that matter?
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>>3702194
I just don't like that new trend where camera does these two instead of making an optically excellent glass. But hell, I'd buy that lens anyway if I had E mount cam.
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>>3702197
>instead of making an optically excellent glass
But they did. The new lens is actually close to F1,3 and despite this it corrects many of the aberrations better than the DSLR lens.

Your argument would have real clout IF the new lens was less sharp. That just isn't the case.
If gained sharpness, and it reduced the weight by 50%.
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>>3702199
>it corrects many of the aberrations better than the DSLR lens.

Except these two I was talking about. No point in arguing tho, this lens is probably the best in it's class anyway.
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>>3701312
Should you not recommend the better modern lenses here because "older lenses do the job fine"?
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>>3702205
Pre-correction distortion is something OVF people care about.
But to EVF people it's a non-factor, and the only thing they care about us post-correction sharpness.

I could argue that the original design focused so much of distortion correction in-lens that it compromised on the other factors like CA.
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>>3702197
>But hell, I'd buy that lens anyway if I had E mount cam.
It's also available for L-mount a lions.

Don't forget EL Mount.
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>>3702117
>Sigma fixed their 85mm lens
is it time to sell my Sony 85mm 1.8?
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>>3702218
If you're willing to handle about twice the weight, you will get a nice F/1,35 lens.

The physical aperture is larger than the other F1,4 lenses.
But it's so fucking compact in comparison.
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>The physical aperture is larger than the other F1,4 lenses.
True story bro.
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>>3702222
>weight 630 grams
not bad, lighter than my 24-70 GM
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>>3702224
It's called T stop. And it can be measured if it's true.
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>>3702228
F-stop actually.
You can measure the biggest bokehball on the DSLR lens on the long side, is should be about 120 pixels.

On the new lens it's 132 pixels in diameter.
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I've noticed when I switch around between manual and automatic and limited and full focus modes my lens goes out of whack and stops focusing properly. I have to fuck with it a fair bit to get it working again. Is there something I'm doing wrong that's causing this? Does it need to be recalibrated?
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>>3702278
Seems like at least it needs a thorough cleaning and maybe replacement of helicoid or focus motor or other parts. Send it in to your local camera service for cleaning, they will tell you if something else needs to be done with it.
I have the older one with screwdrive AF, the gears are super sensitive, I have to be very careful not to leave it in manual so it doesn't rotate the focus ring during AF.
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>>3702342
Shit. I just bought this thing and it is really clean. I'd hoped there wouldn't be any issues.
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>>3702228
Physical aperture size is F stop. T stop is light transmission which depends on glass too.
>>3702117
I wonder how small they can make their 105mm
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>>3702401
>I wonder how small they can make their 105mm
There is still a limit to how small it can be. Sony just happened to make their 85 big, as to not lose face against Canon's 85.

The only two who made theirs small are Samyang and Sigma.
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>>3702405
the nikon 105 is under 1kg and takes a 82mm filter. sigma's is 1.6kg and takes a 105mm filter. they have plenty of room to improve.
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Hey guys, I'm new to photography and, after using a point and shoot for a few months, just got myself a Nikon D7000. I haven't got a lens though. Can anyone recommend me a good, relatively inexpensive beginner's lens for the D7000?
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>>3702425
That was a great choice. I'd pick up a 35mm 1.8g. It'll give you an effective focal length of 50mm which is a very natural focal length. A lot of successful photographers shot exclusively with that focal length. It's also weather sealed. Paired with your body you'll get some wonderfully sharp images. Pic related, that lens on a d7100.

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>>3702430
Oops, wrong picture

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>>3702430
Thanks, this is exactly what I'm looking for. I'm new to SLR cameras so I'd like to have something that is relatively middle of the road in terms of specialization. Thanks for your help, I appreciate it.
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>>3702436
Of course. The d7x00 with that lens is honestly a fantastic beginner setup. You're going to be very happy with it.
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>>3702278
I have that in Nikon F mount. It is hard to focus, slow and noisy.
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>>3702278
>>3702342
>>3702690
Found a youtube video demonstrating the problem.

https://youtu.be/N1uV4BEmkaQ

Thoughts?
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Just out of curiosity I checked how much you can get from selling your camera to B&H. Are they like the gamestop of used camera pricing? 'Cause I feel like it's under valuing it by a pretty big margin.
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>>3702823
Keh does instant quotes. Check with them.
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>>3702831
Keh is way better to buy from than sell too imho. BH is as fair as youre gonna get
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>>3702857
I had good luck selling to my local camera shop.
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>>3702766
yup. with AF on, it should always hunt and will try to find focus with the lens cap on.
this is another shot but try putting your camera in AF-S, then in AF-C. I had a sigma lens where the AF only focuses in AF-C in my D90, but had no issues with both AF-S and AF-C in my D90.
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>>3701656
I went from a D3100 to a D7200 and felt that was a good jump for me. The D7*00 line has full 100% viewfinder that's bright and clear(big improvement over my d3100), inbody autofocus motor so you can use the old D lenses that don't have autofocus built in. The D7200 also has dual sd card slots and honestly was enough of an upgrade that I don't feel the need to go full frame.

For the flash, I bought the Neewer 750II. It's very affordable and was a major boost to my low light indoors photography. It's a very good investment, only about $50 and TTL is basically automode so it's easy to use.

>>3701663
He's referring to how much of the image he can actually see through the optical viewfinder. On entry level dslr, you actually only see 95% of what the final picture will be so you'll get a little more on the edges of the frame.
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>>3702882
The issue is like this
>focusing fine near and far
>switch to MF and adjust
>switch back to AF
>lens no longer focuses
>hunts using small part of focus range and gives up
>switch back to manual focus and focus to infinity
>switch back to AF
>AF begins working again
Sometimes it takes a few tries. Switching between limited and full focus seems to fuck things up or sometimes fix them.
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>>3702882
meant, no issues with my D80
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>>3702891
>>3702890
>>3702882
>>3702766
>>3702278
Checked the manual and figured it out. I didn't understand how the limit mode worked. I was locking myself into focus ranges by mistake. Pic related

Thanks for the help though, guys.
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>>3702899
kek, I thought you already know about the focus limiter
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>>3702902
Haha, no. I thought it just turned off macro distance shots. I didn't realize it allowed you to set focus range to long or short.

I love the lens though. AF isn't the fastest thing but it's a really nice sharp lens for the $225 I spent on it. Nothing else came close for the money.
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>>3702909
yeah its sharp and produces a warm color rendition. you'll notice that if you set it at f2.8, it will immediately change aperture once as the barrel starts to extend.
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>>3702915
I did notice that. Is that a common macro thing?

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>>3702857
>>3702858
or just dont be fags and sell it on ebay for market value rather than half

>>3702916
yes
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>>3701663
>Don't worry about your old Nikon lenses
If he was smart he'd be buying vintage F mount glass and just manual focusing it. I had a d3200 and all the glass I bought was D glass or older. So most of it got autofocus when I upgraded.
Unless you're a professional, autofocus is overrated.
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>Those rumours about a new EOS-M flagship that will have IBIS
If it's the right price that may be tempting. The EOS M6 Mark II is only about 200 USD more expensive than the GX9 where I live, so if this one is just above that and has that 32.5mp sensor along with IBIS I may just get it instead of a GX9 as a pocket camera.
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>>3702924
Yeah good luck charging that on a eBay store with zero sales you fucking mouth breathing ape.
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>>3699807
>and the weight practically makes it usable for APS-C systems as well.

What does this even mean?
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>>3698303
Is it better to get a 11-16mm f2.8 for astrophotography? Lens I have now are
24-70 f.28
50 f1.8
18-140 3.5-5.6
Nikon D7100
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>>3703013
The tokina? I have that lens and its awesome
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>>3703021
yup, the tokina. Looked at it when it first came out, and now I'm looking at it again five years later. They say the version 1 optically still better than the version 2?
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>>3703013
I have the ver 1 in Nikon mount. It's a nice lens desu. I can't compare it ver 2 tho.
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>>3703025
I've got the 2nd version and it's a great lens.
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>>3702992
People prefer smaller and light lenses on small sensors.
And lenses can be made really small if the sensor is small.
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/g/ here. I have no idea how to camera.
is there a logicalincrements.com for cameras?
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>>3703151
Just follow this guy https://www.youtube.com/c/geraldundone/videos

>is there a logicalincrements.com for cameras?
Tamron and Sigma are the value gear for most lens classes.
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>>3703155
Thank you. I was hoping for some kind of listing showing maximized price/performance at a number of brackets.

Where do I start with a budget of $250?
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>>3703156
>Where do I start with a budget of $250?
Your smartphone.

Quality optics is too expensive for you.
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>>3703158
Is there a logical increments for smart phone cameras?
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>>3703162
Would it even make sense to make one? Smartphones go out of date after a refresh season.
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>>3703163
I don't know anything. I'm utterly clueless.

I was hoping for a chart to tell me what's going to give me the best pictures for a given amount of money.
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>tfw switch into mf by mistake and wonder why your shots are all blurry
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>>3703156
Used Canon Rebel. Run through ebay for used pnshoots. You look for two things, that they support raw, that they have half decent controls. IE. at least two dials. It's better to get ten year old model that shoots raw, than something brand new without it and no controls at all.
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>>3703151
>>3703156
>>3703166
"Best picture" is something largely decided by your own merit.

In the modern age with high resolution screens and HDR and all sorts of nice things most acts of photography get shared in subpar super compressed formats in low resolution.

A camera from 2008 with not be significantly distinguishable from a modern hyperexpensive body under these circumstances.

What distinguishes images is the content presented.
Either way, for the money get a used rebel or better, older body. (A 50D should just barely fit in the budget) and stick a nifty fifty in the end of it.
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>>3703176
I'm looking for maximum technical quality, I guess? Like resolution/clarity/megapixels/dynamic range.
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>>3703221
For $250 you're not going to be a significantly better sensor than you'd get in a 50D except maybe by stepping down(up) to an entry level camera with an 18megapickle generation sensor that offers *slightly* better low light performance but otherwise doesn't differ much in terms of dynamic range.

For $400-500 you could probably step to a 5D mk2 or a 6D mk1 for better results.

But keep in mind that's by blowing all of it on the camera body.
Doesn't mean much when your lens is the bottleneck.

A nifty fifty is the cheapest entry that's somewhat good.
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>>3703156
Bump that up a bit. Get a Nikon d7000 and a nikkor 35mm 1.8g dx. Should be under $400.
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Does a compact like an IXUS afford any benefit over using a smartphone?
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>>3703237
>>3703279
Thank you anons.

I can find a used Nikon 3200D in apparently 6/10 condition (without a lens) for like $150.

My task is to shoot product photos of girls in dresses. So full body white background kind of thing. What lens do I use?
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I really want a mirrorless but I've only got 15,000 shots on my d7500

I need to stop gearfagging
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>>3703448
are you a jap? why call a PowerShot an IXUS? anyway, point&shoot cameras have optical zoom, so the more you zoom in the higher the difference in quality between them and phones.
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>>3704274
No I'm not a jap but I've always known them as IXUS, I'm not trying to weaboo I thought that is what they were called
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whatever this is gonna be, is it worth waiting for?
$1000 price seems like too good to be true...
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>>3704417
It will be a huge fail if they don't use the same new processor form the S mark3.
And a huge fail if they go back to the old batteries.

It's already a huge risk just by removing the RVF.
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>>3704226
Mirrorless are shite m8, unles you re willing to drop at least 5k
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i sold my kit lens and 50mm canon and bought like 4 vintage lenses, a 28, 50, 58 and 135 for 90 bucks, i like the range i got way better now. Maybe ill pick up a vintage zoom too, but theres no ranges for a price i want to pay in pentax thread

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>>3704457
Which ones did you get anomalous
Also push-pull zooms are nice, but the quality you get from them leaves much to be desired

I would instead suggest a vintage macro
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>>3704462
i actually got an extension tube set for $3 at a thrift store so im covered for that. If i find i need more flexibility in that field ill look out for a macro zoom.

But for the $90 i got a hanimex 28, makinon 135, and a domiplan 50 for $20 per piece from the same vendor (all f/2.8 lenses) and the helios 44m for $30. Im pretty happy with what i have, first time ive bought a whole bunch of lenses and honestly, i dont think ill ever need anything else ever unless it gets stolen.
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>>3704457
I was gonna say those old cheap zooms are fucking garbage, but looking at your picture I don't think you would care.
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>>3704492

Some of those old zooms aren't bad. I got a free Quantaray 28-300 AF and slapped it on my Df and it made okay results. Apparently it's got aspherical elements too.

Nikon made something called a Streetsweeper (which I also have, and it's for sale if you want it) 24-120 that makes decent results with a little post processing.

I also found some sort of weird 35-75 Toyo Optics? Some weird ass 3rd-party push pull manual focus lens, actually has really good results stopped down.
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>>3704492
show us something yours thats not garbage!
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How much is my camera realistically limiting me? Is saving up for and spending big money on an EOS R6 and a $2800 lens really worth it? I know that like with every hobby, there’s a diminishing rate of returns the more you spend, but considering the price difference between my $500 starter kit and an EOS R6 + lens, something’s gotta give right?

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can someone recommend a small camera which doesn't cost like 1000 euros and could be used to record driving with a car? i've tried with two smarthphones (nokia w/ois, sony w/eis) and one actioncam (not hero) and the results are horrible because of rolling shutter.
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>>3704542
Depends on what you want to do. I had similar gear to you except it was the T6 and my kit lens didn't have a stabilizer, so i was in worse shape than you and i hated most of my time with it due to lack of focus button, shit dial, lack of stabilizer for night time, which was a most because that camera's sensor has horrible low-light performance and upping the ISO above 200 was a risk due to butt ugly star noise, not to mention the video mode was bugged and couldn't run most of the time.
Yet most of my shit was on a tripod and with good lightning conditions, mostly because i had to due to said limitations but i learned a lot with it and i liked some of the results, it costed me a ton (lol third world) but it was a good beginners' lesson. If you want to run n gun a camera at dusk/dawn or have the best focusing tools like peaking, stacking and having a chance to see shit in telephotos with a stabilizer then sure, even if merely to have an acceptable camera you definitely need to upgrade, but it depends on what you are going to do.
R6 lacks a ton of body for the price range, it looks more like a video-centric camera if anything but it can do the job. Do you want video stuff, only one or two lenses and mirrorless tools? then go ahead, if you want rugged stuff, optical viewfinder and no video-tax included (sadly with not a lot of mirrorless tools) then a Pentax is another go. Buy a camera that makes easier or cheaper what you like to do, even if a bit difficult things you might try once in a while; if you like to do absolutely everything or simply 2 things that require 2 different things, then rev up that money for an all-you-can-do camera with its respective lenses.
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>>3704549
Thanks for the comprehensive reply anon, I’ll keep that in mind.
>third-world
Same lol
I have my cousins in the US buy my gear and they smuggle it out when they visit me
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>>3704542
just get the rp
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>>3704553
Hey no problem man, every time i see someone with a Rebel i understand their suffering.
Costed me a full month's paycheck and it didn't even had the basic features. Honestly the camera is a whole lot different on a tripod and focusing with live view + zoom to detail + 5 second shutter delay, it's a slow process but it gives the best results possible for that shitheap of spare parts Canon taped on, things get way too sharp.
Also look into ergonomics, some people like me hate the shit out of the dial, and many more hate Sony's brick grip. If you have some big shot store with cameras in it (no matter how old or expensive) you can ask politely to check them out and feel the body, then play dumb and buy something else worth pennies. In my local store i usually bought candies worth 2 bucks and then try out the Sony A7RII and Nikon D6XX, said thanks to the girl and get out of there. Makes a big difference, no matter how bulky some cameras are a joy to hold.
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Just bought an eos 80d for 690€

I'm a boomer who started photography in the late 2000s when DSLMs weren't a thing. I bought the 80d before getting back into the topic enough to realize DSLRs are slowly dying and are replaced by DSLMs.

Was it a mistake or am I still in time where it makes sense to still buy a DSLR?
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>>3704492
the quality isnt the issue, its more the fact vintage zooms are way too slow, i refuse to buy anything over f3.5 anymore. i dealt with an 85-300 minolta but it was an f/5. Crap background seperation and no chance for any handheld photos when sunset starts.

but thats why i stick with old primes rather than old zooms. this image i used the domiplan 50

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>>3704753
Mirrorless has wysiwyg but poor battery life. People post charts with amount of shots before the battery drains but that's only half the story when even looking through the viewfinder drains your battery. Eye AF is really the only advancement that's come. If you like using EVFs then switch but it's a preference thing. We're in a golden age of cheap DSLRs and lenses. If you want to spend double for in viewfinder exposure viewing then that's your prerogative.
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I want to get some lighting/flash but I don't want it tied to my camera, as I have Sony A-mount and don't want anything that's dependent on a dead platform. I'm not familiar with lighting gear, is it possible to have it uncoupled from your camera, set your exposure time to a couple of seconds and manually trigger the flash?
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>>3704549
First dslr I had was a rebel t6 as well. I thought it was great at first but I really struggled to get a sharp image with the kit lens. I sure I was just terrible with it but I would take hundreds of pictures every time I was out and I had so many of them scrapped because the chromatic aberration ruined the shot or the focus was just slightly off. Recently got a a7ii to replace it and I couldn't be happier
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When/why would I want warmer lights instead of pure white?

Can't color balance be adjusted in post? And be easier to do with a pure white light?
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>>3705440
Maybe it's so you can match the color temperature of that light to ambient light?
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>>3698303
Should I upgrade my d7100? I'm just casually taking pictures. The only thing I don't like about it is the low light performance... Thinking of the Z6 if i want to spend more, or d750 to spend less
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>>3705766
I think the d7100 is plenty camera. Do you really need full frame?
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>>3705766
D800 is a bargain. The lowlight performance is a game changer and cheap AF-D lenses are everywhere.
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>>3705766
Yes, why not use a very good camera setup to casually take pictures if you can afford it?

If you can ill afford it of course stick with the D7100.
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>>3705796
>700 bucks without lenses
>Bargain
Not that guy but i think we are from different economies.
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>>3699725
>tactile "thwop"
>like shooting a bolt-action rifle.
Tactical thwop.
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>>3705787
Not really, since my need most likely make use of the crop factor, but having a better low light performance is something I'm looking for and tilty screen too
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>>3705849
$600 if you hunt around, which is absolutely a bargain for what it is. He's talking about more expensive cameras anyway.
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>>3705849
I mean it’s still a bargain in the sense that it’s a good value.
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>>3705796
It's a year older than my d7100. Sure, camera doesn't work that way, but I'd assume newer body still performs better?
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>>3705974
It's hard to say in relation to the D7100 specifically as it was the highest tier APS-C body Nikon offered at the time (higher tier was the D300s which at the time was getting very old)

Generally speaking, the lower tier bodies get hand-me-downs even if they're newer which brings a nice loophole to the used market of people selling nice older camera bodies of higher tiers for the same price as a newer entry body because muh two years newer.

Either way it effectively does not matter, both are respectable cameras and good purchases in their own right.
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Just took receipt of this. Will make a photo thread in a week or two when I've taken a few hundred shots.
The new viewfinder seems much bigger than the old one. I no longer have to smash the VF into my eyeball. Not sure about the omission of the view mode button either. I switched frequently on my old Xpro.

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>>3706027
fuckin beautiful mate
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>>3706027
That good gets me hard.
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what's the best Nikon wide angle prime lens under £300?
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>>3706194
24mm or 20mm F2.8D?
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>>3704753
There is absolutely nothing wrong with DSLR's mirrorless brings almost nothing unique to the table besides IBIS and smaller bodies.
I just bought a 90d and it can do everything a mirrorless camera can if I need exposure simulation I can just use live view on the LCD and I can do eye AF through the viewfinder.

I prefer the larger body because it makes it easier to handle with large lenses which is what confused me about MILC's having smaller bodies because almost all the mirrorless lenses are as big or bigger than the DSLR lenses.
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I originally wanted a 55mm for landscape, but thought I might as well grab the zoom. Can't wait to try it.

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>>3706210
>besides IBIS
Which exists in Pentax DSLR bodies
And smaller bodies are more often than not a negative given that you really can't pocket them & it just leads to shittier ergonomics.

An EVF absolutely has its merits, especially if you're videography focused or want to use manual lenses.

Advanced focus tracking features of mirrorless bodies are also really nifty.

I maintain however that in the current point in time, DSLRs provide better value purchases.
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I'm going insane choosing my first ever 'real' camera. There are so many options.

I want to do macro, animals and landscapes mostly and little to no video.

I narrowed it down to these:

>Panasonic G9
+cheap lenses
+EVF, ergonomics
-MFT

>Nikon Z6
+FF
+ergonomics
-expensive glass
-CFExpress only


>sony a7III
+FF
+AF
+lots of glass to choose from
= Sony menu
-price


Also Fuji seems to have really nice colors but I think I would be paying a lot for video features that I would never use (also kinda expensive glass).
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>>3706219
>macro, animals and landscapes mostly
Those all usually involve very different lenses and expensive glass. I'd make sure to budget properly for the lenses and probably choose a system for the lenses instead of the body. All cameras take good pictures now. You can even get an older body and get better glass. So for example with nikon, don't go for the z6 since it's both expensive and has limited lenses you can use. I would go for an older nikon dslr and then use the saved money on lenses.
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>>3706219
Pentax K1
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>>3706219
DSLR and splurge on glass *or* Canon mirrorless that can seamlessly adapt relatively affordable EF glass.

You're gonna be spending more on lenses than you will on the camera body if you really want to cover all those fields.
And you're gonna be spending ridiculously more if you buy new mirrorless system glass that barely has a used market built.
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>>3706194
24mm 2.8d
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>>3706230
I haven't looked into Canon glass at all, how does it compare to Sony E?
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>>3706276
In a sense, Canon and Sony are the only two safe long term options.
If you go Canon though, then you will be stuck with Canon lenses and Samyang lenses.

>sony a7III
>-price
The price not a negative. It's actually the E-mount's greatest positive, due to the affordability of Tamron lenses and Sigma lenses.
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>>3706276
>>3706288
If you're looking to buy native glass then Sony will be cheaper like anon pointed out.
Sigma & Tamron doing work & RF glass is expensive as hell.
My initial post banks on the current market situation, folk are dumping their DSLR systems and EF glass is at an extremely affordable position.

My take on things is if you were to buy a camera today, then I'd probably go the Canon route.
As far as the future is concerned however I can imagine Sony developing a reasonable used economy much quicker than Canon will on the RF mount. They've got the third party glass, they've got better market saturation on Mirrorless.

Natively I feel like Canon will be the more expensive choice for a longer while. But I'd much sooner buy into either of these over fucking Nikon lmao

get an aliexpress brandless shoulder bag for your lens fellow instagrammer
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>>3706300
>>3706288
>>3706230
>>3706225
Thank you all. I think I'll go the Sony route.

The A7 III is a little pricey for me right now (>1,8k € in germany). I'll look into the A7 II and maybe the R2.
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>>3706310
>I'll look into the A7 II and maybe the R2.
Those are not good cameras. Battery life is also shit.

You're probably the target audience for the RP and the A5 launching in a few months.
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Does anyone think Sony will have an answer to the 800mm f/11 lens? Its something Id like desu. The downside was central AF points only (and kinda crappy AF on the Rp)
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>>3706314
No. And it can take up to 2 years to design a lens.

The good news is you have many companies who can attempt to copy those lenses, Sigma, Tamron, Samyang, etc.
The bad news is they won't be for sale until 2022 at the earliest, and this is a generous assumption of them even bothering.
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>>3706317
I’ve been wanting Samyang et al to make a lightweight small f stop supertele for years, but all they and Yongnuo and all the others wanna do is have their take on a fucking 50mm, the one lens no one else needs to make, then all of a sudden Canon comes out with them.
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>>3706324
Walimex has a 800-1300mm for like 300 bucks iirc.
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>>3706327
Except for those bs garbage lenses, and I’m talking about a lens designed to be sharp, and have AF, not some random magnifying glass elements that are worse than lens elements thrown out due to failing QC in an extending tube
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>>3706327
I had a Kenko 420-800mm back In the day and a canon 30D and Ait was hot garbage.

I did manage to learn to handhold manual focus 800mm at f/16 on APS-C Without any stabilisation though.
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What are good wide lenses that fit a Minolta SRT 101? It accepts Minolta MD and M42 lenses via adapter. I'm going to try and mod mine to accept Pentax K lenses once it arrives. If I understand correctly it will be fairly straightforward. I'll post to show how it goes.

Is this a shitcam?? Feeling like i made a mistake. idk what i should have got instead though
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>>3706346
Yeah because it’s quite heavy, some people like them, I mean if it’s cheap it’s cheap. I think the black Minolta xd7 is nicer
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>>3698540
Get a 610 ace speedster beam foghorn leghorn
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>>3706219
I'm in the same boat, anon. As soon as I think I have an idea of what I want I change my mind. I'm paralyzed with the idea that I'm going to buy something I end up hating and then find out immediately afterwards the camera I SHOULD have bought. I hate this process.
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>>3706405
It's because you're thinking in reverse.

You're supposed to look at the range of lenses you want, and then figure out which systems they are compatible with.
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>>3706414
That's a good point, I tend to get too caught up in the bodies.
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OK so I'm looking for a new system after Olympus. I did what /p/ told me and downloaded X-T3 raw files (especially ones of foliage). Open in Lightroom and I cant believe my eyes at how bad they are. Completely unacceptable, the trees look like they have had a bad 2000s photoshop art filter applied to them.

If not Panasonic, and definately not Fuji where can a jaded Olybro go? I would rather stay with crop sensor for size/cost and need weather sealing. No DSLRs.
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>>3706418
Link to raw files and screenshot what you're seeing, along with the mouth-breathing levels of sharpening you have applied.

I've never seen lightrooms worming on fuji raws, and I want to see it for myself.
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>>3706420

https://www.dpreview.com/sample-galleries/5370103067/fujifilm-x-t3-sample-gallery/6119165164

Image 30/122 (people in the forest)

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Image I post is from the second one, 2:1 on the pine trees in the middle of the image.

Very bad and that's with no sharpening or noise reduction, I throw up if I even slightly move those sliders.
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>>3706418
Sony
Nikon
Canon fucked up with their mirrorless APSC and has a different mount to their FF mirrorless, so I’d avoid that
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>>3706461

>Sony

I thought their APSC cameras were not weather sealed and even their FF bodies had pretty weak sealing at best. A7Riii looks most promising despite cost

>Nikon

Like the build and weather sealing but single card slots and I'm a bit worried they will go the way of Olympus soon though. Not sure how much of that is just FUD but hey I have been burned once

>Canon

lolno
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>>3706465
Normally I would recommend the Tamron 28-200 RXD, as it can be used as APS-C lens, and it is the most Olympus-like lens is the sense of compactness and focal range.
But the bodies are nothing like the olympus cameras you're used to.

There is no good alternative compact system.
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>>3706418
I'm glad you played with the raw files yourself. That was the right decision.
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>>3706460
for what it's worth, here's no sharpening at 200% in capture one
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>>3706472
looks good to me lmoa
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>>3706472

Thanks, that is a night and day difference to me. I might trial Capture One but big call to drop Adobe after many years. Fuji ticks every other box for me.
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>>3706476
I wish other photo editors offered tablet applications.
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I have a Nikon D3500 and go backpacking with it often. Currently, I'm looking at getting a proper backpack insert (since the case it came with is a little bulky and not all that space efficient) and am leaning towards the Tenba 10 BYOB DSLR Backpack insert (https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0763V22ZY/). Has anyone here used this case or a similar backpack insert? Do you have any recommendations?
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>>3706465
What do you want in a camera precisely?

The only camera I’ve had weather sealing issues with is an EOS 500n, took it out in rain and if spazzed out and shot off the whole roll, never was quite right since then and meter broke, my EOS 30D was fine.

I’ve used an A7s since 2015 which I don’t think is weather sealed and haven’t had issues in weather, except snow when I crashed while skiing and the LCD got fucked up. A few days later it returned to normal. I’d like to upgrade and the rIII also looks good to me.

Iirc the A6100 and A6600 are weather sealed, not sure about the others or the Nikon.

If you’re ruling out Fuji and Canon, then you’ve got Sony and Nikon. There was also that weird Yi M1 MFT camera.
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>>3706476
Could also just take the fujipill and use JPGs. Works just fine if you don't mind being called a heathen.

It's just me and my JPGs editing with snapseed on a phone lol.
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>>3706476
Are you on the subscription? I can’t drop it either because of the cloud workflow. There’s no chance in hell I wanna give up being able to sync and upload raws from a tablet, and do editing, online proofing and distribution without having to render, export and manually upload to g drive. Capture one should have a cloud subscription version and tablet apps.
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>>3706480
>and use JPGs.
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>>3706501
What's wrong with jpgs?
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>>3706501
Lmao just look at the photos i post they look and tell me how they would look better if only i used RAW instead. I been posting daily here I'm not hard to find.
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Honest question, where does the Nikon boomer meme come from, what's the correlation there
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>>3706507

Wow i truly cannot type and am retarded. I meant: explain to me how the individual photos that i post would have been better had i not edited from the JPG and instead used the raw
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>>3706509
>mfw shooting nikon
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>>3706504
>>3706507
>>3706510
Hey, if it works for you then you're fine. I personally can't imagine giving up that much control. I don't spend a ton of time editing but I do enjoy it.
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>>3706515
But WHY? Is there something about Nikons that only appeals to boomers? I've never looked into them and I'm curious
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>>3706517
It's just harping on the stereotype of boomer tourists.
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>>3705978
True. My only issue here is wanting to go mirrorless since there are more vintage lens choices? The Z6 is appealing, but I like to have dual SD card slot, but I'm too poor to get a mirrorless now
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>>3706518
Ah okay, well I'm definitely familiar with those. Just assumed the meme implied Nikons were outdated or something
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>>3706520
No, it's a combination of boomer tourists and the people on /p/ that shoot nikon DSLRs instead of mirrorless. The zoomers don't understand why we don't care about their EVFs or animal butthole AF.
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>>3706219
>>3706405
You'll be happy with whatever you buy.
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>>3706418
Just don't use lightroom for fuji. Capture one is a fine program. I've been using lightroom with my nikon for years and I love it, but I don't mind using capture one and I rather like keeping the two separate.
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>>3706528
Yeeeah you're right. Thanks.
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>>3698303
Reposting because it is better to ask here.
Just impulse bought a K-1, body only with grip and 3 batteries, for 1100€
Also I just realized I'll need FF everything and have to ditch my entire K-3 kit. Except for the Tamron 70-200/2.8
What are some cheap and decent normal and wide angle lenses I could get on my small remainder summerbucks?
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>>3706219
I used my Pentax K-3 for those.
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Does the Sony a6000 really overheat that often when shooting video? That's really the only dealbreaker for me with this camera, otherwise I might consider it for the price of a used one.
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>>3706219
I had a Pentax K-50 a few years back which served me very well for these purposes.
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https://sacramento.craigslist.org/pho/d/sacramento-great-deal-alpha-a7r-iii/7177725313.html

Is this a scam? There's got to be a catch
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>>3708797
Probably a robber who stole it from somewhere.



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