The age of leather is at an end.Synthetics are now superior in every way, even ethically. discus
>>2669605I prefer cotton boots.
>>2669605OP, you've never seen one of those in person and you don't know what it's specific purpose is. You need to worry about the simple activity of going outside and salvaging your life before you become a permanent shut-in, not whether or not synthetics or leather are the best.
>>2669609presumptuous, leatherfagi do go outand they are mountaineering boots
>>2669605I like leather, and I don’t care if the skin of the animal I ate for dinner becomes clothing.
>>2669605Unless the boots can be resoled with high quality soles, it doesn't matter about the rest, as the soles will be worn down to uselessness after a few seasons.As far as I know, that's just not an option whatsoever except for plain flat-ish soled boots that have no utility except on dry pavement.
>>2669605I've yet to see a synthetic material that combines breathability, waterproofness and durability in just the right way as leather does. Goretex is strictly better for function, but it breaks down well before leather does. Some kind of combination of rubber with a synthetic absorbent lining that also pumps out the air at the top might by superior, but I'm not aware of such a boot existing.
>>2669607Kek. Asbestos boots is where it's at. Imagine not being able to shove your feet into a bonfire.
>>2669605yes , I agree , its better
>>2669633Technically you can with even bare feet. You either need to be very,very quick; or plan on only doing it once
>>2669605I prefer waterproof boots.
I'm never wearing footwear with elevated heels again for the rest of my life
>>2669605My ethics require global thermonuclear war if human population growth ever precludes eating meat and wearing leather.
>>2669706This. Mandatory reduction of current standing population by 50%
>>2669629dainese used lorica for their moto suits; breathable, good friction (so you won't skid away) and waterproof. leather suits are made of deer hide and ut has to be farm deers, as wild deers will have scars, which is no buono for the intended purpose.this was long time ago, btw, no idea nowadays.also, op's a faggot and this a slide thread
>>2669719I get to live though
>>2669739>"Lorica is a hi-tech material created from a remarkable combination of extremely thin microfibres. This interlacement of microfibers, soaked in special resins, has a microporous structure which is very similar to the collagen of natural skin. This gives Lorica excellent softness, durability and breathability."Interesting.What you essentially need in a boot is a waterproof-breathable material that doesn't break down like goretex does, especially when faced with dust and mud and such. A thick microporous material might just be the trick.
>>2669799So animal hair felt?
>>2669780>>>2669719>I get to live though
>>2669699It's necessary for winter mountaineering.
>>2669699Why? Because some weirdos on this site convinced you that toe drop is killing you? I bet you believe that sọybeans are inherently bad too
>>2669719>50%Rookie numbers, we need at least 90% to sustainably return to agrarian life.
>>2669605>sports shoeseethe and cope rainbow faggot. you will never have dry feet. hahahaha
>>2669803Not waterproof enough, not durable enough.Wool felt boots exist in russia, with its deep and dry cold. In germany and probably other more western countries, leather and felt boots exist, but pure felt boots are not a thing.
>>2669605I don't wear plastic.
>>2669605Read Industrial Society and Its Future by Theodore Kaczynski
>>2670106Link to ISAIF: https://www.wildernessfront.com/the-manifesto
>>2669609What are you talking about, anon? It's just a standard hiking boot with a stiff plastic heel welt for equipping semi-auto crampons. 80% of all mountaineering boots on the market these days are like this.Also, alpinists stopped using leather like 40 years ago. That's not even an exaggeration. The main change in recent decades has been the introduction of lighter and lighter materials, away from rigid plastics towards Gore-tex and carbon sole shanks. Some of these boots still have an outer layer of leather or suede, but that's mostly for aesthetics. Pic related La Sportivas are super light and comfy and I took them to the Matterhorn in August.
>>2670229>>2669605I don't have alpin tourist trails in my backyard. You only wear a boot like this once a year if at all.
>>2670261a lot of synthetic modern b1 boots are light enough and comfortable enough to use as trekking boots, as well as classic mountaineering with semi-auto crampons.thats one of the major benefits synthetic materials have created. there now are do it all boots. something like the boots in OPs picture can be used from approach all the way to all but the most technical mountaineering.
>>2670106>come home american man
>>2670414That's what I said. You don't wear a boot like this more than once a year if at all.
>>2669878unboiled basedbeans are bad
You’re not allowed to go into a helicopter on NPS or Forest Service flights without leather boots and synthetics are not allowed, as far as I know. I’ve only taken the computer-based training for a job coming up in a week, though. Point being, leather still has a use and leather is still fine.Source: IALSE23 (https://www.doi.gov/sites/doi.gov/files/interagency-aviation-life-support-equiment-handbook-guide-v3.0.pdf#page10), Chapter 2.1, Section B, Item 4 (picture related)
>>2670520Fuck this is some bureaucratic bullshit isn't it.
>>2670526No idea why, but I learned Nomex only chars at 7-800F. I assume it’s because a synthetic will catch fire and leather won’t catch fire? A lot of the PPE seems geared towards fire retarding and proofing.
>>2669605Nah, leather is the ONLY material for manly fotwear.
>>2670530If you're in a helicopter in a situation where your shoes are catching on fire I don't think them being leather or synthetic is going to effect the outcome of that situation. You're fucked.
>>2670684>Noooo, they won't let me fly with my heckin barefooterino toeshoes.
>>2670414The thing is, if we're being honest, there's no reason for you to be using anything other than trail-running shoes for approach. Most hiking boots are a meme. They can have their uses on very rough terrain (large scree) or on snow if they're waterproof, but they are really unnecessary otherwise, until you get to technical mountaineering. Ultimately lighter = better when it comes to shoes in the mountains. FYI, Kilian Jornet used special custom trail-running shoes for his Everest attempt back a few years ago. If I remember correctly he cut a carbon sole to the shape of his shoes and screwed crampons onto that, and he used those until very high up before switching to mountaineering boots (mostly for insulation from the cold).
>>2670840>there's no reason for you to be using anything other than trail-running shoes for approach.yes there is, because i want to scramble and climb after the approach. or wear crampons.you can't front point, edge or wedge with trail runners. your feet would get destroyed. and that is just for scrambling.>FYI, Kilian Jornet used special custom trail-running shoes for his Everest attempt back a few years ago. let me guess this guy is also a vegan who insists on feeding his cat a vegan diet.>If I remember correctly he cut a carbon sole to the shape of his shoes and screwed crampons onto that, only reason he could do this is because Everest is not technical at all. it's just a slog. >and he used those until very high up before switching to mountaineering boots (mostly for insulation from the cold).i don't have a sherpa to carry my mountaineering boots for me
>>2670840>Kilian Jornetyou mean the fraudhttps://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/climbing/ultrarunner-kilian-jornet-everest-controversy/https://www.marathoninvestigation.com/2018/05/new-report-analyzes-kilian-jornets-everest-claims.htmlhttps://www-leptittrailer-fr.translate.goog/leverest-le-record-de-kilian-jornet-remis-en-cause/?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=schttps://www-elconfidencial-com.translate.goog/deportes/alpinismo/2018-09-10/kilian-jornet-everest-dudas_1612450/?_x_tr_sl=es&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=schttps://www-widermag-com.translate.goog/news-un-journaliste-guardian-remet-cause-record-kilian-jornet-everest?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=schttps://runningmagazine.ca/trail-running/kilian-jornets-two-everest-summits-disputed-in-new-book/
>>2671155The first link is a 3000 word article which concludes he isn't a fraud. Nigger, what are you even doing?
>>2669605You don't know anything about how synthetics are made and you're retarded.Feel bad about sucking corporate cock and feel even worse about not knowing shit about any industry at all.
>>2669605In my experience, they don't wear in like leather boots do, just basically feel the same over their life. Which I guess is good for durability, but they've never been as comfy as a pair of well used leather boots.