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Anyone use rain boots/muck boots/wellies in the snow? It seems like a pair with aggressive tread, a thick felt insole, and good socks would be great for shoveling the driveway/going to the store/going on light walks/stuff short of hiking. What does /out/ think?
idk I use running shoes and flip flops for everything. try it out for yourself and see how it goes, considering you're asking about doing basic everyday shit around the house
I think they always flop around too much, I have done a couple of 2ish hour walks through snow in wellies (once to get to work, the other to get home after drinking and leaving the car on my friend's farm) both were across country with some road and farm track. It worked but I wish I had my 12 eye 'gamekeeper' boots.

IMO they are great for wading through shallow water or fucking around in the mud, they are fine for light walking duties but not as good as regular boots. Obviously the man attraction is not letting anything in and being easy to clean off as well as keeping everything below your knee clear. Which is great when you're stood in literal shit all day at work and don't want to spend another 30 mins every night after you've finished cleaning off boots and probably re-waterproofing them. With the wellies you hose them off and forget about them.

tl;dr they are good for what you've said you want to do.
Oh, and forgot that I used them when doing work on high and wet moorland in winter. Which is all day walking through blanket bog and upland heather heath. Here they are inferior to high boots, but more waterproof and lower maintenance. IIRC I always took high boots when there was snow up there or it was frozen though.
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>Anyone use rain boots/muck boots/wellies in the snow
in Finland we are taught since childhood to use rubber boots with felt inboots when outside during winter, summer too but without the felt
they are used for pretty much everything and everyone owns a pair but their main use is cross country skiing, all the traditional ski bindings are made for rubber boots and even city folks learn to use them in the army
you really cant beat them they are really nifty invention
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>I think they always flop around too much
anon let me show you a trick that will change your life be it midsummer hike or midwinter ski trip
pic related is what you need, everybody and their mother wears these year round in alaska
It depends on the type of rubber they are made out of. They are likely susceptible to cracking after repeated freezing and reheating.
I have some of those of a pait of Swedish m59 trousers, or whatever they were.
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Just breaking in a new pair. You only need the rubber up to your ankle in snow. Those are also good for long distance trips.
Pic related is what I use. But I only used them when I was in BC Canada, bushwacking up mountains. They provide amazing grip. With the one exception of bark on an old rotten log. They will grip the bark and then shoot out like you are on ice. Other than that amazing. I'm banned from several supermarkets for wearing these :) I used to be a hemp shirt wearing, smelly, hippy type (I planted trees and lived in the woods).
On an unrelated note, I'm banned from an IGA in barrier BC for wearing roller skates. I didn't even go fast. I just had a basket on my arm and wanted to get my shopping done quickly. Ahhh, to be young again. Youth is waisted on the young.
Rubber boots are secretly the best hiking boots and they work all year round.
They just work and they're comfy.
And this >>2666399
get eva boots (heat retardant) with a liner. I use Torvi. Them and some other Russian brand sells them for cheap in russia and they use a sole patch so they have more traction than a croc for example.
Real rubber will last but be heavy and urine/oil will wreck it. not heat retardant
polyurethane is not heat retardant and will have hydrolysis but be more durable.
eva is light. same material as crocs. other eva makers are tingley for china (no liner) and lemigo is polish with liners but no sole attachment for durability/traction like torvi.
i don't know why people get the neoprene exposed ones because anything sharp will shred it unless you wear loose pants and wear them over the boot. Still uses polyurethane for lower.
I mostly use mickey mouse boots and they are pretty good at everything
Any welly reccomendations? The ones i use are falling apart and there seems to be a lot of shitty ones out there. I loved the old hunter wellies but, as every single person in scotland will tell you, the new ones not made in scotland are absolute shite.
>gave you recommendation here lazy faggot
gave you a debrief of all the materials. What is falling apart in modern 'rubber' boots is because PVC is cheap, polyurethane goes through hydrolysis and the foam breaks into a million pieces with disuse, and neoprene is not meant to take abrasion.
this realistically leaves eva (cheap. croc material. Not as durable but the foam can take some hits and some use inserts in sole to last longer. also heat retardant.), polyurethane (can avoid hydrolysis if you use all year instead of waiting for rainy day. weighs more.), or old school rubber (durable, can be repaired to an extent, weighs a LOT more like 5 pounds a boots, also urine/oil will fuck rubber up so needs to be rinsed if using depending on condition.)
>EVA Recommendations
Tingley (cheap. no liner)
Lemigo (Polish. So-so. Nothing special)
Torvi/Nordman (Russian. Uses insert at bottom for more durability. What I use)
Probably Sievi's boots (Finnish. Dunlop also has a polyurethane pair. Just have to be careful with hydrolysis and potentially the boot being stored in a warehouse for years.and thus not being used. concerns me with companies like dunlop that makes 100,000 boots)
>real rubber
Le Chameau
(Not really my area of expertise, but these are literally the only 3 that may be in existence considering most switched to new materials a long time ago. I don't use for the reasons stated above. Le Chameau are made in Morocco, and the other two are made in Europe. I'd probably recommend Aigle first.)
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I used to be a mailman with an all walking route out here in the Midwest back in the day and these Neo overshoes were worn by everybody. taken them snow camping and hiking more than once since then and they still hold out years later.
Nokian Footwear still sells boots made with real natural rubber.
Their Naali-model is the civilian counterpart of what the Finnish Defence Forces use. I also have a pair and I love them. (I am at work now so can't show a pic of my own, but here is a picture from the manufacturers website)
For winter they issue these winter rubber boots with removable felt liners. For winter warfare exercises they were a must have, essentially an only way to keep your toes warm in the cold weather while doing soldier stuff.

The trick is to have one (or two) spare pair of felt liners and spare socks in your backpack. Change in to dry socks regurarly and then and then check how your felt liners are doing, change in to dry ones if needed. In order to ory out the liners, you hang them in the squad tent (which is heated with a wood burner stove) when you go sleep in there. Those winter rubber boots also have an inbuilt groove for cross country ski bindings, which allows the soldiers to use skis relatively easily and quickly during their missions. That makes the troops more mobile in the winter season than when travelling on foot or on snowshoes.
Made of a butyl (synthetic) rubber but still a good option for a durable albeit heavy boot

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