I like going /out/ but I can't fucking sleep when I'm out there by myself. I get all anxious and I end up only sleeping a few hours a night. I understand rationally that in most/all of the places I go I'm the most dangerous thing for miles in any direction; I'm not in Alaska or bear country; but it just doesn't translate to being able to fucking relax when I tuck in. I'll get halfway to sleep and then one of pic related will happen and I'm up for another hour.Is there any trick to dealing with this or do I just need to get used to it?
>>2646767You're not actually tired.
the most terrifying creature is an armadillo. id swear a 250lb man is stomping through the brush planning to kill me and out pops this tiny weird creature
>>2646774In civilization I've never been so not-tired that I spend an entire night awake.>>2646783Haven't heard that one yet, not looking forward to it
Sorry to suggest drugs are a solution but these work for me in the city and out innawoods: 1) melatonin, Life Extension, and 2) Kalm waka loa kava, fijian root. I'm a lousy sleeper as it is, but this combination of drugs work for me even in coastal brown bear territory where because I'm a soloist I tend to be hyperalert. Spanking the monkey can help as can herbal tea.
>>2647098>Spanking the monkey can help as can herbal tea.I guess a tube of lotion isn't that much of a weight addition. What herbal teas do you recommend? Just dunk some pine needles in hot water?
>>2646767>is there a trickfirearms
>>2646795Serious question, how comfy is your sleeping system? If you're on a foam pad and you're used to a plush pillow top, you need more exhaustion until you're used to it.
>>2647270In spite of image I actually use a hammock mostly and it feels pretty comfy to me. I use a blanket on top, occasionally an unzipped sleeping bag as a makeshift top quilt, but I have an underquilt too. No pillow. I am doing the diagonal thing where my feet are on one side of the ridgeline and my head is on the other.The hammock might be part of it though. You're always hanging up where you're pretty easy to spot and your back is exposed.
>>2646767Get your testosterone levels checked.
>>2646774That was my problem, I learned to head out very early so by the time I get everything set up for the night and the food cooking I was exhausted, food hit my belly and I was out like a light. I suppose it would be different if you have a designated spot you know that you are going to camp at and you reach it with little or no effort.
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Wear ear plugs, make sure you're not sleeping with your head even slightly down hill. Make sure you choose an extra cozy camp site.
>>2647415>German chamomile It comes in latex bags?>>2647416>make sure you're not sleeping with your head even slightly down hill.Now that you mention it, that happened to me one night on the ground and I didn't sleep at all then either.
>>2647299Try a thin pillow. Might have a closer feel to home. Also try fiddling with the hammock angles. Played around with mine this summer and had a much better sleep with shorter ridgeline even though it felt fine for naps.
>>2646767Go /out/ more. You get used to it
>>2646767statistically it's more likely to encounter blacks in a city than hiking
>>2646774i'm too strong to get tired, must be nice to be weak
>>2647248this and big knives
I'd actually recommend against tea, by the time you drink enough to actually matter there's a good chance you'll wake up in the middle of the spoopy night to pee and have to restart the sleeping process all over again I take ambien before bed when I camp, but I also make sure to be really active by cutting/splitting wood, hiking, etc because >>2646774
