Topics include:>personal rules>knife etiquette>knife customs>camp craft and projects>sharpening>steel types>sheathing>broken tips and repairs>danglers>closure redundancy>newbie mistakes
>>2641753Pic related is all you ever need
>>2641821
I really like Opinels, I should get the mushroom one, or maybe the handyman model with the bit holder
>>2641753My srk should have been here today had those usps retards shipped it out sooner rather than waiting 3 days for a update
>>2642024This. Masterpiece.
>>2642068Opinel masterrace.
Are automatic knives which release blade from a side /kg/ approved?
>>2642287That doesn’t sound like an Esee
>>2642292expensive as hell, im in five figure debt
>>2642296Opinel No. 9 is what you want and need then. Get two for let and right use.
Schrade released a new knoife.
>>2641821That's just edgy
>>2642068>>2642284Opinels are beautiful I just don’t like that I have to buy a separate clip and I don’t like their thickness in my pocket. That’s why I went with the Buck 110 with the Micaela handle in S30V steel.
>>2642594*Micarta
>>2642296Psh the Izula is like $50. I had a CRKT SPEW first and that got me hooked on the small fixed blades, I think you can find those around $25-$35 on Amazon or wherever, but the Esee is just better in every way.
>>2642287Not really a feature set that /out/ needs. Maybe OK if you stab greasers from other gangs outside the malt shop every Saturday night.
>>2642626>this is bigtime, baby
This probably doesn't count as a modification but here are the two main ones I use. I ended up breaking the tip off my old pocket knife and didn't want to buy another one so I made my own. I made the fixed blade because I like the seax shape and I carry it around and use it a lot .
>>2642068The opinel gardener is the most beautiful knife ever made. Too bad they dont make it in carbon steel
I usually carry this beauty. Is some kind of modern take on traditional Spanish folding knives.Still sharp af
>>2642626>fits into pocket comfortably unlike regular knife>do not have to carry sheath>can open with one handAssuming you only need short-medium size blade there's no reason to bring regular knife when you can go with auto knife.
>>2642727They are illegal where I am, but I want a Hubertus springer so bad.
>>2642818Pretty sure there's camping exception or something. Will cops detain you when they see you sitting on a rock cutting bread loafs with springblade?
>>2642958nta but in finland there's no exemptions afaik. and unironically yes, they probably would if they ever happened to see you using one since well, the law is the law you know
What about Mora Companion? Is it good as an all around knife for /out?
>>2642983Yes.
>>2641821what's the deal with fat knives? does it have any actual use or just to look cutesy?
>>2642818>>2642958>>2642965why would the police ever check what you have in your pocket unless you look suspicious?
>>2642983>Is it goodProbably in the top 3 of all time.
>>2642983>>2643111>>2643158>20 bucksis it really that cheap, or did i get the wrong model?
>>2641821Haven't been on this board for a while, strange to see you still post in knife generals after all the fuss you made about "Knife people"
>>2643162Here in Italy its 15-16 euros so i guess its about right.>>2643158>>2643111Would it be better to get this one or the heavy duty one? Difference is about 10 euros.
>>2643132They’re not fat, they’re big-boned!For real though it’s like a 2” and 2.5” blade, they aren’t fat at all, it’s the pic and size that makes them look that way.>>2643170Why do you think I’m here trying to spread the good news? All you need is an affordable carbon steel fixed blade and a <$10 pull-thru sharpener. To hell with your ceramic bearings and 6000 grit Japanese stropping butt plug.
>>2643563Nice, a "protable Ant Izula". That's what I need. Why pay more?At least get the worksharp field sharpener. Not everything you own has to be as cheap as possible.
>>2643563>All you need is an affordable carbon steel fixed blade and a <$10 pull-thru sharpener.No wonder your edges look like absolute AIDS.
>>2641753>modificationsI love rehandling knives.
>>2643830fug. forgot pic
>>2643831qt flowery envelope
>>2643683Yes that’s what an edge will look like when you use a knoife regularly instead of collecting them.
>>2643830>>2643831I have done a few as well, I want to buy a belt grinder anvil and forge this tax return *post after pics anon
Reminder
>>2643545I prefer the normal Companion (S) over the HD. The HD has a thicker blade and therefore doesn't slice as well and its handle has more 'belly' which feels slightly uncomfortable in my small hands. I think you'll find yourself more often in situations where you want better cutting performance instead of the increased toughness of the HD. The standard Companion is tough enough for almost everything imo.
>>2643545>>2644639I had the standard companion SS, but the edge rolled quite badly while trying to slice a green branch to make a tripod/pot hanger.The factory edge angle on the standard companion is 23 degrees (11.5 per side), while the companion HD has a 27-degree edge angle (13.5 per side).In comparison, many outdoor knives, such as ESEE, come with edges of 40 degrees (20 per side). So even the Companion HD still has quite a delicate edge. I'd go for the HD version every time. Though, like anon said, the standard version will slice better for things like food or fine carving.
>>2644650Good point. Mora's true scandi is indeed a pretty delicate grind on their thinner stainless blades. The fact that their hardness is somewhere between 56 and 58 HRC doesn't really help either. They should probably go for 58 to 60 HRC like on their carbon blades, 12C27 is surely tough enough for that.I'd also recommend to take a look at the Mora Bushcraft. The handle is extremely comfortable and the knife comes with a decent sheath, a robust blade geometry and a very sharp 90° spine while still being pretty affordable.However, the overall most comfortable knife when it comes to handling might be my Mora Classic 2F. That wooden barrel shaped handle is just as simple as it is comfortable to use and fits pretty much every palm size.
>>2644590you're overpaying
>>2644724Pathetic.>>2644590Just have a bit of patience and avoid getting ripped off by shady knife companies in return. It's worth it.
imho mora basic is not worth buying because of awful handle (both material and shape), companion is so much nicer knife for few extra currencies
>>2644761Agreed. Companion, Bushcraft, 2000 and Classic all have great handles and the Companion is just the best knife for the price overall.
>>2643133they won't, and that was never the subject matter here. if they see you with something illegal, it's their job to do something about it. also, customs.
>>2641753what is a nice, very resistant, utilitarian fixed blade knife? i like the Gerber StrongArm, but $100 for it seems a bit overpriced, seems like a $50 knife that got trendy and skyrocketed in price, i don't mind spending the $100, but would be nice if i got some better value if i'm going to do it
>>2641821Look at your edges man. What the fuck is wrong with you. It looks like hell. Throw that goddamn pull through sharpener away.
>>2645063The fuck? I love the blade but spent like 60$ for it, when did it hike to over a grand?
>>2645086yes, it seems like a really nice $50-$60 knife, but for some reason it doubled in price this year or something, can't even find it much cheaper in euro-ebay, they sell it for 80€+20€ delivery so it's pretty much the same price as new
>>2645095I see. Anyway if you ever manage to find it into a decent price range I highly reccomend it. The bloody thing is a literal tank and it's ideal for chopping/batoning. I even customized the already great sheat to hold a firestarter. Good workhorse.
>>2644726Ma neigbour, why you still overpaying?
>>2645113>Klinge aus recyceltem schwedischen Edelstahl
>>2645063Cold Steel SRK is similar and half the price
>>2645113brother of the southern lands, why are you STILL overpaying?>39kr = 3.28 EUR
There are a lot of trolls in here, because 4chan is full of furries, but these knives really are nice.
>>2645167What an ugly fucking knife. This is what I imagine /lgbt/ jannies mutilate their dicks and balls locked in sissy cages with.
>>2645225Good to know that's where your mind wanders, bud. I just use it for work.
>>2645243Why pink though? Don't you get made fun of by the guys at work? Are you trans, per chance?
>>2645246Everyone uses orange on all of their tools. Hi-vis so they don't lose it in the woods. I chose pink, because they all know if they find it, or if I see them with one, it's mine. I don't give a fuck what it looks like.
>>2645250Based. I also mark my tools with pink tape or paint for this exact reason.
>>2645250You are telling me the pink has an actual practical real world use reason?
>>2645246>>2645250theres usually like a 5-10% discount on pinks too for reasons. i like the high vis but i got lotsa pink shit.
>>2645251"Straight men don't steal pink tools."to refer back to this retard>>2645225>>2645246
>>2645254Probably because they are gay. I wouldn't steal some random woman's handbag either because I am not trans and/or a nigger.
>>2645253True. Pink shit is usually cheaper, just because of the color. Enjoy your bright orange fellas. I'm paying less for the same tool.
>>2645258>I'm paying less for the same tool.But deep down you know you will never be a real man (or woman).
>>2645260Real man doesn't let a color make him feel insecure
>>2645263>Real man doesn't let a color make him feel insecure.Exactly what a fag would say.
>>2645167Must be kidding. The knives look like spoons.
The only thing I hunt is mushrooms and I'd like to get either a "mushroom knife" or a plain folding hawkbill knife. Any recommendations?
>>2645346i know opinel has hawkbills, nothing wrong with them.
>>2642024Imagine not carrying a Buck 110 every day.
>>2645167No one's gonna talk about how the guy who posted the lolzula with visible use has it sharpened to a literal mirror finish in his gay handkerchief photo?
>>2645063>what is a nice, very resistant, utilitarian fixed blade knife?What's your budget?I take it by "resistant" you mean how tough is the knife?Unless you're talking corrosion resistanceBeyond that do you need it to be stainless or not?What's your use case?Max length?Minimum length?Your question is far too broadGoing off what little you've given:Suggestions for under $100Budget quality low alloy steel, Terävä Jääkäripuukko 140, can be had for $50 without a sheath, $90 with a sheathIf you want stainless Mora Garberg, $87If you want tougher, then be prepared more to get something in CPM 3V if you want a high alloyed non (semi) stainlessOnly tougher you're going to get beyond CPM 3V is going to be 5160 or 8670, both, like the Jaakaripuukko (which is in 80CrV2), are going to rust if you look at them sidewaysBeyond that, pay out the nose for some unicorn shit like Delta 3V from Carothers, or INFI from Busse
>>2645150Yeah, you're not wrong.>>2645160A thousand apologies, you win!
>>2645113>>2645160Holy kek
>>2645251I wanted the purple Candiru when I got mine but it was out of stock everywhere. I would be down with a bright orange model too because Hi-Vis.
>>2645565is that a cock fish?
somebody gave me a knife as a present, what can i do with it in nature? i go hiking an checking birds with binoculars often, but i've never needed a knife unless i took a piece of cheese or sausage, want to learn if there are cool things i can do with it in nature
>>2645593Snek feesh
Axes?
>>2645602Carry it around and feel mighty. Just like the other faggots here.
Goodnight sweet prince we had a good run.Have to find something to replace it, not sure what though, another sak or a small skeletonized fixed knife.
>>2645849i can't comprehend multitools without pliers, 90% of the time i need a tool it will be a plier or a knife
are there any decent fixed blade knives in europe that don't look like grandma's shitty knife like the morakniv? i like some burger models like the Kabar bk18, but they have insane prices here, like 160 eurobucks instead of 90 ameribucks in the US
>>2645913>look like grandma's shitty knife like the moraknivGrey/green/black Mora Companions are good looking knives in my opinion. Very minimalistic and non-cringe.Maybe check out the Ruike F118. Looks like a very good knife for the price with 14C28N/G10 and full tang.
>>2645951>Ruike F118looks cool, you recon it would perform well for bushcraft stuff rather than just for butchering animals?
>>2645913You want a lionsteel m4, subscribe to their newsletter and the often send 10/15% discount codes so you can get it cheaper.
>>2645963It's a high sabre grind, so it will work well for everything, but won't really excel at anything.>>2645968Lionsteel sucks. They cook their steel soft and the blade geometry on the M4 is absolute shit, way too thick behind the edge.
>>2645849Sportsman or Cadet.pic unrelated.
is this sharpening tool any good? what you recommend to have as an "on-the-go" sharpening tool if not? i guess something like a Fallkniven diamond ceramic whetstone may be cheaper and more useful
>>2646190>is this sharpening tool any good?If drop shipping was a sharpener.
>>2646218so just get the Fallkniven diamond ceramic whetstone instead for an on-the-go sharpener?
>>2646222Nah, the worksharp field sharpener is much better.
>>2646134Don't know, saks get too much gunk inside. I think I want a small and light fixed blade.
>>2645160>that mora tax
what's your knife-carry position? i do scout unless the knife is too big, then drop leg or just have it in my bag>https://www.bladehq.com/blog/9-ways-to-carry-a-fixed-blade/
>>2646522
>>2646528what kind of weapon is that? doesn't look like a full gladius
>>2646531Are you the same retard that asks for sauce/porn star names on /gif/ when it clearly says everything in the filename?
>>2646533i thought it was the guys name, sounds italian
>>2646522Optimal. Just left of the belt buckle with the handle facing towards your balls
>>2646576Ugh you must smell like absolute shit
>>2646615how can you smell through the picture?
I don't know if this is the right thread for it but I'm not about to shit up a board I rarely browse just for my tripe.Let's say you're going into the wilds and can only bring one brush/terrain clearing tool. What do you pick? A Woodsman's Pal? Or maybe some kind of entrenching tool since a shovel may be handy and it can at least somewhat do the jobs of an axe, machete, saw, shovel, and hammer? (I imagine it'd be less convenient for light use such as clearing saplings, but it seems to have the most overall use cases) Or maybe a simple machete of whatever size you prefer since that'd likely be the lightest option?
>>2646777Forgot to add, obviously you could just carry extra shit but I find myself trudging around mountainous woods and the less often I need to backtrack to my truck to get a hatchet or saw would be nice.
>>2646522>>2646576>how to lose a knife in the field
>>2646232>a small and light fixed bladeCheck out LT Wright.
>>2646779Machete.
>>2646932your not gonna lose a chunk of metal that weights >300g
>>2646777machete or axe if it's just for vegetation, if it's for both soil and vegetation and you are really only allowed to bring 1 i guess a tactical shovel, but it's going to be shitty to cut stuff
>>2646932Not if it has a good sheath. I have been carrying knives like that daily for like 5 years. The first was a CRKT and the sheath started getting a little loose after maybe a year, but the Esees have held up much better. Only time it ever falls out is if I don’t click it in all the way.
>>2646949I want something like pic related, maybe even smaller.
>>2646950>>2646952Machete is what I was leaning to as well, though I'm going to look for one that's suitable for chopping smaller trees if needed. I hear Kukri-style blades are supposed to be good for that so might look in that general direction.Anyone used one of those Woodsman's Pal machetes? They seem the most practical of all the "do everything" mall ninja blades I've seen.
>>2647070Looks like shit but just get one then.
what's the white man's sharpening tool? Work Sharp Guided Field Sharpener? is that enough for all uses? or better to keep that for on-the-go, and something else less portable for sharpening at home?
>>2647542>Work Sharp Guided Field Sharpener?Takes care of 80% of sharpening needs. The guides are 20° so you'll be limited to that if you use them, but you can technically take out the diamond plates and sharpen to your own angle. 20° is too high of an angle for me personally. I prefer 17° on my pocket/hunting and kitchen knives, which I think is the sweet spot. Some type of guided system is going to be best for achieving that.
>>2647552>The guides are 20°sorry im a retard, that's 20º per side, so 40º total edge, or 10º per side, 20º edge?
>>264756420° per side obviously
>>2647552what happens if my knife came with a 15º edge from factory, and i use a 20º sharpener on it? will i die?
>>2647570No, but you will have to reprofile the edge a bit because when the factory angle is steeper than the one you are trying to put on, you are basically putting a microbevel on the factory apex, which isn't very durable for obvious reasons.
>>2647542
I bought some shit whetstone on Amazon 5+ years ago, and I haven't been able to sharpen my knives despite watching tutorials on it. Any recs?I own two Gerber Remix knives. I really like folding knives like this. Any similar recommendations? I bought and returned a folding knife that popped out and was difficult to close. I did not like that.
>>2647586>and I haven't been able to sharpen my kniveshave you been using dull knives for 5 years? anyway should be pretty straightforward sharpening, whats the issue? wrong angle? or the metal staying unfazed?
>>2647588I'm thinking wrong angle. Also, my whetstone is rusty.
>>2647586>Any recs?Light pressure, lighter than you think. Like, the weight of the knife.
is there any tool i can use to check the angle of a knife edge?
>>2647821Edge-angle guide.
Any alternative to this with a locking blade? Shit's perfect for the pocket due to a tiny footprint but lacks lock and single hand opening.
>>2648113I found this but kinda expensive for what it is.
>>2647586>>2647629>I'm thinking wrong anglehave you tried the sharpie trick? paint the edge, pass the stone once, check what part you missed, adjust the angle, ...
>>2641753How do you do, fellow /out/ists.I'm stinking of buying a s35vn buck 119Will I regret missing out on that extra inch and half compared to 120?I'm upgrading from a mora I lost in the field. I like these lighter duty knives, I'm not gonna be chopping trees with it or larp as picrel. Seems 6" is sufficient.
>>2648173>lost in the fieldyou're gonna lose this too
>>2648180Naw nah, I was actively being retarded when I lost it.>walking the lot with son>he just learned to run>lil dude picking flowers>decide to throw the knife into a huge ant hill, see if I can stick it in>throw knife>goes behind the and hill>lil dude suddenly decides to sprint at mach 5>catch him>go back>there are like 2 dozen ant hills around me, start doubting which one I yeeted at>knife is OD green>foot tall prairie grassI can contain my retardation usually so I'm not worried.
>>2648187one more reason to always buy gaudy ass pink shit
>>2648191I learned about the foot long bright ass orange string on all my snow tools the same way.
>>2648173119 is more than fine, 117 would be my choice. They make a 120 in S35VN if you want to go whole hog.
>>2648113Case Tribal Lock
>>2647489That’s one nice little knife.
Anyone have experience with TBS? I really like the look of their Boar with the walnut handle.
>>2648339>experience with TBSas in getting stabbed?
>>2648352It's the name of the company. But if you have been stabbed then feel free to share your story.
>>2645070He posts pics of these knives constantly
Since this is a knife thread, I'll just make a random confession lost in the middle of the thread: For their price (<15€ shipped including VAT), I kinda like those really cheap F1 clones from AliExpress. Have two of them.
>>2643831>>2643830Anything you have learned over time? I have a huge chunk of worm-munched pear tree I want to make handles/scales out of. Pear is very hard, and the chunk of wood is ~5' long
>>2645063Sealpup, I was using one as a can opener for a couple years, point still fine. The price of the elit is only $20 more so you may as well get the elite
>>2648472You have my interest. What do I search for?
>>2648540A couple things: square up the block and drill the holes for the pins before you cut it into 2 scales when it's still in one piece, so that the holes are parallel to each other and perpendicular to a side. Laying the blade blank on the scales and drilling through the holes in the scales in the best way to get accurate spacing. Shaping the handle with sandpaper will stain the grain if it has any metal components, like pins, spacers, finger guards, shields, etc., so using a file and rasp is superior.If your wood has a lot of holes you might want to stabilize it first.
>>2643877Had to take one.
>>2643877>a belt grinder anvil and forgeA belt grinder would be SWEET. Anvil and forge are hardcore. DO you know how to blacksmith?Post pics of the ones you did, Anon.
The only action my knife sees is chopping oranges, cause the work office is on an orange orchard
>>2648620>You have my interest. What do I search for?The AliExpress search terms will blow your mind...>F1 knifeBut look around AE, there's one version of it from "HX OUTDOORS online Store" (search 1005005555697350 on AE) that is cheaper and is not branded as Fällkniven (and the sheath is crap), which might interest you if your country's customs are kinda iffy with trademark infringement.But be warned, internet meme knife guys (DBK) say the knife is shit because it's not as good as the real F1 which costs 10x the money.I, on the other hand, say it's about as expected for a 15€ knife with that steel (5cr15) as I have a few others that fit the same specifications to compare with (knives from Decathlon).A Mora Companion IS a better quality knife, but I like the design of the F1 a lot more.So, you decide what to do with your money, I've relayed all the info I can give you.
>>2648624Nah it's something like this image. Tree was ~130 years old. It had been dead for around 30 by the time we cut into it, still broke a chainsaw blade stalled out the chainsaw. You should get some Pear wood, shit is so goddamn hard
Sexo
>>2648747>€320>soft elmax>made in pooland
>>2648811elmax seems to be up to 62 HRC hardness, comparable to VG10w, what makes it bad?
>>2648821I reverse image searched the knife. It's made by a poolack knife maker who hardens it to 58-59 HRC and wants €320 for a 11,5 cm blade.
>>2648823how hard is it to forge a knife? i may give it a try sometime if it's not superhard
>>2648825
>>2648826thanks, i'll finally solve The Riddle Of Steel
>>2648825Not very. You can make one for relatively little money with a metal file and a regular oven tempered to a much higher hardness (~62-63 HRC) than that poolack meme.
>>2648825>to forge a knifenot hard>to forge an attractive, high-functioning knifevery difficult
>>2641753don't modify.find a knife that was built right in the first place and buy that one
>>2645086a grand?
>>2649185Why exactly? Handle shape, for example. Why not sand/shape a handle to fit your hand?
>>2641753I'm too autistic to find a knife.I went into Canadian Tire and stared at the ~30 knives they had for half and hour and eventually the employees asked me to leave my backpack up front otherwise I'd have to leave.I never ended up deciding.I've gone to 3 Canadian Tire's that claim to have 1 of these in stock, but none of them did.
>>2645849>>2646134I was pretty shocked out how expensive these things are new.
>>2649204why does a tire store have knives? and their own currency?
>>2649207And guns :)Because it started as a tire store.
>>2649204>stared at the ~30 knives they had for half and hour and eventually the employees asked me to leave my backpack up front otherwise I'd have to leave.based autist
i bought a $6-7 obvious trash dollar store tier chink multitool thing off amazon a month or two back (for fun) and i've been steadily breaking it down with use and tearing the garbage off it since. it's now become pretty handy for a $3 knife. (it is currently listed at an insane $24.00)
Let me guess...you need more?
any of you niggers into woodcarving? what are nice beginner projects? spoons and small figurines? what treatment do you do to the finished products? heard you can use mineral oil or boil them in skim milk
>>2649689>spoons and small figurines?Yes, beavercraft do a couple of nice starter kits - I particularly like the bird and the spoon kit - but also check out Doug Linker and 'Carving is fun' on youtube. Both have a bunch of great beginner tutorials and ideas.As for finishing, I use beeswax or mineral oil.
>>2648540Pear is absolutely not hard wood lmao.
Are axes allowed ITT? Thinking of buying this one
>>2649987I'm down with axes. That one looks OK. The patterns are different between the pics with the sheath/mask on and off. The mask-off pic has cheeks, while the mask-on pic is a Montreal/cheekless pattern. Do you know which one you'll be getting?
>>2650068seems to be an oversight of whoever put together the image for the store. I'd be getting this one.I want it to cut small to medium sized logs (think fencepost thick), small trees of the same diameter, etc. Some of the wood around here is very hard, but I have a saw too.
>>2650069Cool, nice. Cheeks are better. 18" is hatchet sized, so fencepost sized is about all it'll handle. Does Condor make a boy's axe? About 2.5 lbs and 28" long? That's perfect imo for an all-arounder.
>>2649987>62000 for an axeis this trolling? you can just buy the forest for that price
>>2642068I own the No. 12 filet knife and keep it in my tacklebox, or trout vest. Its so handy and at $25 it's worth it.
>>2649866U r ignanthttps://www.wood-database.com/pear/https://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/janka-hardness/
>>2649987Anyone know anything about these Prandi ones?https://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store_store.html?a=axe&brand=879&listingid=19
