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>>2583703MY SNAKE BEANS HAVE OFFICIALLY FLOWERED
Honestly, if I envy anyone in life it’s the pepper geek dude. He seems like a regular guy and he must have been a dork to get into gardening. Somehow he found a female garden buddy and who is also beautiful. It’s hard me to find any garden buddies, let alone cute girls and if I did I don’t know how I’d convince them to marry me.
Since old thread is dead, copying my post: Suppose I want to have a container garden of trees that need a bit warmer climate than I can provide, and need winter protection (for maybe a month max). if I build a removeable green house what is a better ground surface? Bare dirt, or concrete (I've got a ton of 2'x2'x4" concrete pavers). I figure the concrete would absorb sunlight and stay warmer, sort of like urban heat islands, but they might also hold the cold. Dunno. Advice?
>>2583704Nice. Got any plans for em? I grew purple ones last year. They were great in stir-fry and salads. You can make a very pretty garden salad with them. Decorate it with nastertium!
>>2583708How cold does it get during the winter? What trees?
>>2583711Usually only to just below freezing but occasionally it can hit the low 20s but usually only over night.Plants would be things like loquat (they can grow in ground here and survive but mine always die eventually), starfruit, mango, bananas, pindo palms, also pineapples and other tropicals and sensitive subtropicals.I'm somewhere near the border of 8b/9a but my backyard seems to be on the colder side since I see tons of other loquats, pindos, bananas and such in other people's yards surviving and doing fine.
>>2583715Also citrus. I had lemon, lime, grapefruit, and mandarin trees doing fine for the past several years but had a bad late freeze this year that fucked shit up. In addition to killing my loquat and pindos, it also killed the lemon, lime, and grapefruit. The mandarin is a larger tree and survived but took a pretty bad hit. The lime rootstock survived I guess so might try grafting to that. But I think in the future I'll keep the citrus in containers rather than in ground.
>>2583704I just put 4 of these seeds into my starting cells a few minutes ago; care-wise, what cucurbit would you say they are the most similar to? I really don't want to waste these fancy ass seeds. My plan is to interplant it with Bittermelon and Bush Beans.>>2583709>purple onesDo you mean snake bean the legume? The one in the pic is cucurbit that looks like a giant green bean hence the name. Or is there an actual purple snake goard that I need to look into?
>>2583716I would place black buckets filled with water inside your temporary greenhouse so it'll release heat collected during the day at night
>>2583708I've wanted to do the same thing with mangoes in Central California. I would say build your pavers platform far ahead of time, maybe with a thick layer of insulation in the middle to prevent cold from wicking up into the greenhouse from the coldass soil. Pre-electricity Europeans used to heat their winter greenhouses primarily with hot piles of rotting compost and the sun's rays so it could be worth looking more into that. Alternatively an electric heater placed on the paver floor could probably do the trick too. Either way, it's worth a try bro.
>>2583720I may do that, also going to have some heat lamps for when it's really cold. Luckily most of the time it's only just getting below freezing like maybe 30 just before sunrise. It's rarely below freezing during the day.>>2583726Already have like half the platform, did a garden last year where I made a checkerboard with the pavers to try and control weeds. Didn't really work. Also made it hard this year because I was lazy and just planted right in the same open squares but the dirt isn't as nice because I didn't dig it all up as I usually do.Anyway, figure I'll just fill in the gaps, and make some permanent raised beds elsewhere for veggies. Might even do that in my front yard since one side is bright and sunny but there are some low power lines cutting across to my neighbors house, so trees don't work there.>Alternatively an electric heater placed on the paver floor could probably do the trick too. Yeah I might try that, or get some of that heating wire people put in their bathroom floors. Don't know if it's worth the trouble though for how rarely I'd have to use it. Portable heater or heat lamps is probably the easiest.For the actual structure I'm thinking of just having some sort of anchors in the ground. The structure I'm not sure. Something light enough and easy to disassemble so I can put it out of the way. I guess PVC but I'm not a huge fan of it since it degrades in UV pretty fast and is flimsy. Wood would be sturdy but heavy and a hassle. Maybe I could find some old dome tent poles and combine them. Limits my height but a dome tent would be sturdy against winds. And then of course cover it with heavy plastic or maybe some clear vinyl.Being able to keep everything outside would be hugely beneficial, since bringing large plants inside is a pain in the ass so I only do it once rather than going back and forth, and being indoors is hard on them.
>>2583732>Luckily most of the time it's only just getting below freezing like maybe 30 just before sunrise. It's rarely below freezing during the daywell you need something to retain the heat at night because it's not the days you have to worry about
IT SHOULDN'T BE THIS FUCKING COLD IN FUCKING MID-MAY AAAAAAAAAAAAA
Anyone here went to school for horticulture? Are grants a big thing for this?
I picked a few poppies plants during one of my walks and replanted them in a container. Their tap root was intact but now their badly shocked. Do you reckon it will pull through or shouldn't you bother with annuals?
>>2583741Yeah agriculture gets massive amounts of grants. I’m a PhD student in ecology, but I have friends who are on grants to develop tomato varieties and they spend their days cross pollinating tomatoes and making grafts onto root sticks they are developing
I grew too many plants and gave them away to friends and a local community garden. Made me feel good :)
>>2583756why didnt you give me any?
>>2583759I can’t find you
>>2583738>want to plant corn outside>weather reports say its going to be almost freezing in a couple of dayshave to wait some more I guess... Whats more important is if do I plant afterwards and hope it doesnt go that low again, because the corn would not survive that kind of dip.
Down to 2C tonight, then warm again. This May has been really warm, with only the past two days cool. Its been just over 2 weeks since I planted my carrots so they should be up any day now, I had them covered the first 2 weeks to keep the ground moist.
>>25837886b bro?>This May has been really warm, with only the past two days cool.Yeah, perfect for making you think you can plant warm plants and then kill them off. Just enough rope to hang you.>Its been just over 2 weeks since I planted my carrots so they should be up any day now, I had them covered the first 2 weeks to keep the ground moist.and? did they come up? how about some pics?
Do you believe the whole planting by the moon thing or do you just plant and transplant whenever you can ignoring days it says are "bad"
>>2583800I believe there are esoteric practices that can enhance gardening. But Planting by the moon doesn’t tangibly help any garden metrics like germination, growth rate, yield, etc.
I've got two grafted Asian persimmons (should have just gotten a couple female and a male native persimmon though, they taste far better imo, hell even the Texas persimmons are better tasting.) and the Fuyu is mostly fine but the Hachiya in particular just constantly sends up runners,non-stop. is there a way to curb such behavior?
>sow a whole fucking bag of creeping thyme seeds by the book>not one germinatesFuck you mckinley
So I'm finally getting my own place, well a rental, it's a modest size but has a good amount of yard that isn't wide enough to be used for much (it's a U shape).I'd like to start my own garden and growing some foods. But I know absolutely nothing about caring for plants (I tried to grow catnip for my cat and ended up with nothing).I live on the east coast of Florida, about 90 minutes south of Orlando, so while it's hot, we do get a good amount of rain Are there any books (preferably free and online) I can read that are geared towards absolute beginner idiots like myself? Alternatively any tips from you guys>What would you like to grow Some type of onion since I use them all the timeMaybe potatoes as well since I have heard those are very easy to grow.Otherwise I would like some veggies that can be used often and grow in small plots.I have considered one of those indoor hydroponic gardens but idk
> "Grandpa pear, tell me about your youth."> "Oh... back then, there were hard times... when I was young, I was a hawthorn."> "Grandpa, don't con us..."> "No, really! Listen on. I was happily growing on a verge of a meadow, when suddenly some anon dug me removing all my soil and cutting half of my roots."> "Oh!"> "Then he cut my stem and duct taped a pear twig to me. See this badly healed wound down there?"> "Whoa... can I touch it?"> "Yes, yes... And when I was recovering, the anon left me in half-shaded porch, alternatingly forgetting to water me and flooding me with too much water."> The younglings rolled their eyes on this grumping, but stayed silent.> "But this is not all! He then forgot to remove me from the half-shaded porch when the sun was getting strong at the end of April, and I almost boiled down!"> "Boiled"?> "Yes! All my leafs withered and rotted, and it took me two weeks to re-grow them!"> …And what horror stories could your plants tell their kids?
>>2583831Here’s the things you need to know about hardcore green thumbs. Everyone has their own techniques and so for every piece of advice you hear, someone else will tell you it’s bad advice.The secret to gardening is that it is an art and you will develop your own way. People will tell you that there are no good books out there, but the truth is that there are no perfect books. The point of a book should be to give some basics for how to get started. try something like square foot gardening or how to grow more vegetables. These aren’t like permaculture techniques or anything, but they can get your foot in the door. Your goal, at least for the first year should be just to get aqauinted with the art and learn the basics. If you want to grow onions and potatoes, get some, but also get some “easy mode” plants and garden staples like tomatoes, sunflowers, marigolds etc. Once you have an idea of what you’re doing in the most basic sense you can journey down rabbit holes like no till or all the different varieties of your favorite plants.One good YouTube channel to binge is Charles dowding,
>>2583707he's looking at those peppers lmao
>>2583836>sonny, back when I was a pot lime, my brother lemon and I were shipped off to a home depot in a frigid cold hellscape, no doubt we were doomed to die on the curbside come the first frost.>Wow grandpa! What happened then? How did you survive? >well as fate would see it, some jackass bought what was left of us on a cold October night for half price. >Wow! what a good guy! He must've been pretty good to pull you out of that!>Not really kid. You see, he was also retarded, and put us in a dry ass room for 6 months, while our leaves fell off one by one. But we finally pulled through, and when spring came, he finally put us out to get some sun.>then what happened>I don't remember
>>2583831Well, in your climate, most shit should grow like weeds. Downside is too much rain can fuck up lots of traditional produce (I lose tons of tomatoes every year to splitting due to excessive rain).Are you going in ground, or raised beds? Either way you'll want to make sure the soil drains well and is well aerated, since probably the biggest thing that kills plants is soggy roots which rot. Other than that, most food garden stuff loves full sun.
>>2583831Oh also look into the university of Florida agricultural extension. Should have all the information you need.
can anyone help my tomato?>>2583626
>>25837963b. Forecast revised down to 0C. I guess I'll throw a sheet over my pepper grow tunnel. I should move the hot house stuff into the gazebo on the deck which has zip together sides.
>>2583896Doesn't look like any disease. Just prune them. The bottom leaves tend to die as it grows anyhow.
>uncle gave my mother two tomato starts while she was visiting, maybe 10 inches tall already>this sounds normal until you learn she had a flight to catch 3 hours later to get home>she stuck the plants in her carry-on, and brought them through security>her bag got pulled aside and she had to explain to tsa that it wasn't weedlmaoThey let her through after they knew it wasn't weed. Apparently this is completely legal as long as the flights are domestic. Wouldn't have guessed it.
Ahem... fug pillbugs
What's the best bang-for-your-buck for a 20-20-20 fertilizer?
>>2583987Why? Those guys are all over my yard, are they bad? Call them rolly pollies around these parts though.
>>2583993If you live in a consistently wet area, instead of just eating leaves and decomposing wood they'll eat tender live plants.
>>2583994Huh didn't know that. My backyard is extremely moist and I have enormous population of those guys... They're literally everywhere. Never noticed them messing with any of my plants though.
One time in high school we had a terrarium with lots of lichen and moss and some Venus fly traps. We threw in pill bugs because we thought maybe the fly traps would eat them. The pill bugs bred like rabbits and are the fly traps.
>>2583987i second the motion, theyve done a number on my beans
>>2583862Bro if that was my wife I wouldn’t get much gardening done when them peppers were around
Question about lettuce. How does it work? I didn't intend on planting them but the seed store gave me some free seeds so I thought I'd give it a go. It's 2 weeks in and the other things came in nice and big. Even transplanted some but these guys are tiny. Too many in one cell?
>>2584032>How does it workCommercial lettuce is actually hand-crafted by the Chinese to gaslight and discourage western gardeners.
>>2584032It’s a small seed so it starts out tiny…There’s no need to start lettuce. Just plant the seed straight in the ground in early spring and sow more every couple of weeks to get a constant supply.Plant in partial shade, I like to plant it close to bigger plants so the lettuce is sort of an understory. You can either just harvest the whole head or do “cut and come again” where you harvest the biggest leaves and leave the rest of the plant to keep growing.It’s an easy plant, just keep it watered and make sure it gets shade
>>2583707I always forget she has fat tits
>>2584047It is a credit to her that she dresses modestly and hasn’t started an onlyfans. That’s about as trad as they come these days.
How can I kill the local deer without getting in trouble
>>2584053You cannot kill me in any way that matters.Yourself, on the other hand...
>>2584053A car.
>>2584058Cringeworthy
>>2583231Looks like your garlic got cold damage. There is a slim chance it'll survive and be worth anything. If you plan on planting more come fall. You'll need to put mulch over the cloves or find a hardier garlic like hardneck.
Bonsai bros rise up
>>2584062Cope
>>2583707I think they are a good match. I always think it's a little bit sad when bright features get mixed with dark features because the bright ones will have a smaller probability of expressing themselves but we live in a time of DNA sequencing, so the knowledge is at least not gone. Still funny how we carefully select and breed our plants and livestock but humans are rather animalistic when it comes to their reproduction.>>2583738I don't envy my tomatoes that had to endure 4C last night. In the sun it's warm but the wind is chilly.>>2584053Why not ask your local forest ranger? Where I live they sell game for a good price.
>>2584053Most states let you deer bait on private property.Or you could hypothetically get a suppressed rifle and hunt normally but getting setup for that would be pretty expensive and still runs the risk of getting you caught.
>>2583836dead men tell no tales
>>2584151They often think that they will combine and make a beautiful Fresno Pepper hybrid, but the unfortunate fact is that they commonly produce a hideous Carolina Reaper.
>>2583836>And what horror stories could your plants tell their kids?This picture speaks more than words could say
>>2583998lol based pillchadsThat reminds me though, been meaning to make a bog garden. I'm in the humid subtropics and various carnivorous plants are native here. Just need to make a pond area to ensure moistness, then go collect some pitcher plants and probably buy some venus fly traps. They're native to Virginia aren't they? I always thought they were more exotic.Actually, up in Auburn, Alabama there's a nice park and botanical garden, they have this great bog garden with all different types of pitcher plants. It looks amazing, they range in size and there are many different colors. Would like to replicate that sort of.Couldn't find a picture of that part of the gardens, but here's a pitcher plant of the sort I usually see locally. There are also other varieties that are much more white or red, some are even more violet or red-purple.
Just another reminder that just because two plants are similar, it does not mean that they have similar water and soil requirements. Nine winter squash planted; 3 have died or been yanked out in frustration, 5 have not grown at all, 1 has done somewhat okay (the big yellow one in the picture). Probably will scuttle 8/9 once their replacements are big enough. I feel fucking stupid for not doing my research and making their soil right for them. I don't even like winter squash that much, so I guess it's for the best that it's so damn fragile compared to watermelon out here. Anyone else ever do a big interplanting fuck up like this? It kind of makes me fearful of mixing species again.
>>2584203>that kink at the bottomIt's especially fun when you're growing single-stem perennials that are expected to grow into bushes or trees. Haha.Those ones get planted out in the woods.
>>2584232>Those ones get planted out in the woods.Why? If you replant it deeper so the kink get burried won't it just grow new roots there?
>>2584243I think it depends on the species in question. For a lot of things, probably. Was more making a joke.
>>2584232dear sir, take note of the color of the stem, take note that this is a sunflower, take note that many plants under my care have this red stem, whatever the plant it is, even corn
>>2584247I'm sorry that your plants have autism, Anon.
>>2584250they are just a little shy, baka!
Henlo frensI already have a couple yellow raspberry plants and I have an available sunny spot where I was considering putting red/black ones (or maybe bush/dwarf cherries if you have thoughts about that too) and I remember reading somewhere that you should put yellows and reds at a rather large distance from each other, I guess because of the pollination between different fruit colors could mess something up. Thing is I can't remember where I read that or find it again and I can only see the usual standard gardening row spacing advice. I was just wondering if I was just paranoid or if spacing quite different cultivars a lot was justifiedThanks
One of my other peppers im growing is also developing yellow lob leaves and starting to look paler than the others, so i've tried to adress multiple things at once. First i checked the ph level of my tap water, which surprised me. I could've sworn just 10 years ago the ph of my city's water was 6.8, but since 2020 (as far as the reports go back in time) my ph is 8.3.So i used some droplets of apple cider and a ph meter to get my water down, thought it was around 6.5 what i gave them.After that i read somewhere that if you grow on 50% soil /50% cocos, you still need to fertilize from the beginning? Not sure how credible that is, but it convinced me to feed my peppers a few days early as well. So they've gotten water twice today, but i'm hoping the cocos makes it so they can't drown. Fertilized water went from 8.3 to 7.5. which was interesting to measure.
my gf's neighbor has a groundhog burrow in their yard and has done nothing to rid of the pests. they keep hopping the fence and getting in her yard.recently her dog killed one and she put the corpse in the freezer because it wasn't trash day yet.today another one appeared in the yard and she tried to shoot it with the air rifle i got her but missed she now plans to lobbing the frozen corpse of the hog from her freezer back into their burrow to try to freak them out and make them leave. will this work to make them want to leave? do groundhogs respond to psychological warfare? any other suggestions?pic unrelated
>>2583703How big of an issue are burrowing crayfish for gardens. My lawn has lots of crayfish holes and everything I can find says it isn't an issue but only mentions mature and landscape plants, not younger plants and vegetables
My plants are doing very poorly this year.>start indoors the weekend after mothersday>lose 95% of seedlinglings due to watering issue>Replant, now 3 weeks late.>New seed trays hold water very badly, soil sopping wet, stunting plants>2 weeks of nonstop torrential downpours keeps plants inside>Transplant out, they are growing slow because the unseasonably warm weather is now unseasonably cool>Record low, frost snap on 17th of fucking May>Add in damage from squirrels and unseasonably cool temperatures stunting tomatoes and peppersThe only things doing well are my beans and some broccoli raab I threw in and forgot about. I think I need to drill more holes in these trays or something, they're just soaking.
>>2584306Im rooting for the groundhogs
>getting antsy and even nervous because I still have unused sunny areas on the lot and not completely sure what to do with them yetIs this normal or am I a psycho
>>2584320Brother, I just plant, I don't question I just plant. Don't even care what I'm planting, just plant.
>>2584260In general cross-pollination is good. Usually it increases fruit size/number. For some plants it is even only way to get fruits at all.I cannot see why cross-pollination would be a problem for raspberries.The only reason for which I'd keep the raspberries at least 2m apart is that they shoot new canes from the roots, so if you place two beds with different colors next to each other, in a year you'll get canes of the red growing amidst the yellow and vice versa.
Gents, I've been trying to make my yard more appealing. I can grow the fuck out of veggies but for 3 years now I have not been able to do flowers. This is the most recent issue with a yellow rose. The plant looks great but the buds have always been browned and don't really open. Can't tell if it is Botrytis blight or not, and what to do if it is. The store is offering to replace but I am realizing this store has sold me a bunch of bad roses. This plant looks very healthy otherwise. DFW TX
>montmorency and juliet cherries>4 in 1 grafted plum tree>indigo gem, borealis and berry blue haskap>2x anne yellow raspberry>northblue, patriot and duke blueberry>2x illiny hardy blackberry>2x regent serviceberryAm I fruity enough yet /hgm/
>>2584412Not sure what your zone is but>no grapes>no red or black raspberries>no apples>no pears>no pawpaws>no persimmons>no hawthorns>no gooseberries or currants>no medlars>no kiwis>no highbush cranberries>no mulberriesYou must become one with the fruit, anon.
I have a west facing room that gets maybe 4-5 hours of light a day and a 2x6ft planter. My climate is also very dry, it's about +30c in the day and +5c at night (Dwb on the OP). There is also a light I leave on in the day but I don't know if that makes a difference.What should I grow? So far I have a single watermelon seed that sprouted and two aloe vera but I want to add more.
>>2584419Too cold to be comfortable for a bunch of those. Also I haven't figured out a way to put trellis on my land that wouldn't look stupid yet and I'd be scared of killing the neighbors' pine trees if I had currants and they got the illness thingy, plus I have a fuckton of trees already so I don't really have room for more or even sunny estate left. For now I think I'll just see how things grow because I fucked up a ton of stuff last year and I should test out the new spots and conditions more than anything else.
>>2584410This looks withered to me.Botrytis quickly covers damaged parts of the plant with a visible layer of gray fungus, and that fungus dusts (spreads spores), so it's kind of obvious to tell apart.What do you mean by "the buds have **always** been browned"?Double check for any pest (especially those that can damage shoots, such as cladardis elongatula, ardis brunniventris, anthonomus rubi etc.).When did you buy the plant? How did the flower buds look back then?
>>2584449Always been brown as in as soon as they started to open the edges were brown-ish. They never really opened like my other roses, always stayed tightly cupped. I would have anticipated the petals to open and shed from outside to inside. Plant has awlays looked healthy and when I bought it the buds were just buds. This is the first round of flowers so not many observation datapoints.
7 deadly shins
>>2584426Greens like lettuce, and whatnot. You could try tomatoes, just be sure to increase the air moisture by either using a propogator or a humidifier, especially in the beginning plants/seedlings benefit from high humidity; Once they have a fairly developed root system the need for humidty shrinks down. If you're plants are not liking the low humidty/heat they will tell you by curling their leaves. You could probably prevent or fix upward leave curling this in another way by spraying the leaves with a low solution of fish-mix fertilizer or epsum salt.
>>2584455i've always hated their texture
>>2583800I seed by the moonlight and plant in the rain.
>>2584308Crawdads are fantastic for gardens. They airate and bring up micronutrients. Break their mounds and add it to your beds. They are also a food source.
2nd harvest, made 1 jar of jam already.
Can someone redpill me on plant food? I always see it at the nurseries but I've never used it before. Anyone have any experience with it?
>>2584547It's just nutrients and stuff Don't overuse it unless you want fert burn
>>2584547>0 - 0.5 - 0.7wtf
there nitrogen fixingheard radishes serve well for this.is it just a special form of wheat that has those deep roots to pull up nitrogen?any other grains good nitrogen fixers?they take nitrogen from the air and fix it to soil?any other nutrient fixers? is there a way to do a self sustaining plant once and done type of garden? someone told me that heirloom seeds are the ones you want if you let your plants just go to seed and let them drop on the ground.
>>2584554how about you google 'nitrogen fixing plants' idiot
>>2584565google is purely academic/capitalist.im looking for phenomenological expierence.
I am lazy How do I wash leafy greens easily for cooking?
>>2584306Burry the frozen one and a tree above.
>>2584688colander
https://youtu.be/WUOtCLOXgm8?t=39>I want to plant corn~>I want to plaaaant coooorn~>I want to transplant corn outside but it might be too cooooold~>God knows~>God knows I want to transplant corn~
>>2584487Thanks anon, I'll try lettuce and tomatoes.
I bought the cheapest fertilizers i could possibly find. I've got:>Organic granular fertilizer with a npk of 4 - 1.5 - 3.>Dried chicken manure with a npk of 4-3-4>Liquid fertilizer with nk of 6-4 (doesn't say anything about the p).Liquid fertilizer seems like a scam for the npk ratios but for some reason people say they've used it with decent succes. I've been using it for a bit, and measuring is easy.Certain vegetables love granular more than liquid like greens, while tomatoes and pepers have a taste for liquids.Been thinking of turning the chicken manure into liquid fertilizer. The organic fertilizer has little phosphorus as it is, and is not water solluble.Do i need some kind of device to measure the content of nutrients when i try to make this fertilizer/manure tea? Just eyeballing it would takes multiple years to get the hang of it, no?
>>2584736>seems like a scam for the npk ratiosAnd why would you say that?>for some reason people say they've used it with decent succesYou don't say?>Certain vegetables love granular more than liquid like greens, while tomatoes and pepers have a taste for liquids.Seems very unlikely because there's no difference between granular and liquid fertilizer other than the fact that the former just releases more slowly and if you were to grind it up first and and then dissolve in water you would have... liquid fertilizer. What I think you're trying to say is that "greens" or leafy vegetable need more N whereas blooming and fruiting need less nitrogen and more P and K.>Been thinking of turning the chicken manure into liquid fertilizer. The organic fertilizer has little phosphorus as it is, and is not water solluble.Chicken manure is compost. You use it to improve the soil in the long run and let rainworms and microorganisms break down organic matter which provides nutrients for your plants and improves the physical structure of the soil in the mean time. Liquid and granular fertilizers on the other hand are short term solutions.
>>2584554Usually you just add nitrogen fertiliser OP, nitrogen fixing crop rotation is tricky because you've got to know what you want to plant year round and not many people have enough land to really justify it. I use broad beans and mulch the plant straight into the garden bed, but most legumes are the same. The radish thing is a feature of broadacre cropping, for people with so much land that the tilling varieties of daikon are a viable labour saving strategy.
>>2584547It's fertiliser. Usually it's mostly nitrogen but has tons of trace minerals. The important thing to understand is that you only fertilise as needed, don't do it on the manufacturers instructions. Many people kill everything in their garden by pouring concerntrated fertiliser on everything, and respond to every problem with fertiliser.
Two days into dispersing slug bait around the potatoes are doing noticeably better while I've seen maybe like 3 slugs.It's over slugcels just give it up, the poison is already inside you.
>>2584311How are you planting the seedlings?
>>2584544What variety?
>a frame for runner and edamame beans is done>Going to try growing through membrane so we don't have to deal with bind weed as much.Good day on the allotment, but my shitty compost bin is falling apart so I'll be buying a new one.
>>2584759Jewel.
>>2584787Fucking bind weed. Sheet mulching with regularly maintained edges and physical removal are the only things I've ever found that work for the long haul. Also I hope whatever dopey pricks brought Kikuyu grass to the U.S. had painful hemorrhoids their whole life.
Magic gardener of the lakeHow do I yieldmaxx for productivity and aesthetics (density)?
Are rotating tumbler composters a meme or are they actually decent? They're looking like they're all lower capacity than a traditional round one but does it compost quicker to account for this?
>>2584410Not enough nutrients or available nutrients in the soil. Cut off every inflorescence and let them start over. You cannot possibly overprune a rose bush, so get into the habit of removing every branch, leaf, and bud that does not look like a 90% healthy rose bush should. Add some rose specific fertilizer to the soil and make sure to water it regularly so the fertilizer becomes available to the plant. Think of roses more like a hardy weed that we have made beautiful rather than a delicate flower. My rule with roses is just to keep constantly pruning all the time. If none of your daily prunings are helping either, cut it down to the stump and just restart the green growth. They sre stupid easy if you just remember to feed and prune heavily.
>>2584815Short things to the south, tall things to the north. Look into the principles of ornamental gardening and how you build timed displays that flower throughout the seasons. Fans or keyholes with entries in the northern airt would make things aesthetic and accessible. Planting in rows is incredibly inefficient when you're working on a smaller scale and have the ability to make symbiotic displays.
>>2583703First time planting anything in my life. I just planted this 24 hours ago and something attacked my plants. What attacked them and is the shit fucked cunt?
>>2584871Probably squirrels, maybe slugs, I recommend buying repel-all and sluggo and sprinkling them on the dirt. That combo works for me
wtf is lemon grass, quick rundown?
>>2584871thank you anon. I know what to do from here.
>>2584871proper fucked. squirrel cunts for sure.
ready to go in the ground in about another week
>>2584901not ready to go in the ground tomorrow, but it's going anyway!
>>2584912what kind of corn is that with the red bottom?
>>2584912I think I will wait till next week to plant my corn mid next week
>>2584913all I touch turns red>>2584203>>2584254>>2584923Well to be honest, there is a high chance it will die if I do, because the weather can easily dip into too cold at night.
>>2584932what is your overnight temps for the next week?
>>2584948Estimates say>42.8F tomorrow night for one hour>48.2F for the next day nightand so onWith the promise of 41F for one day next week.All of these are of course "estimates" and it could freeze over tomorrow, or be nice and warm for 2 weeks and then freeze over. There is no guarantee.
Possibly stupid question. Would underwater pond plants in an aquaponics setup provide a meaningful source of oxygen to the roots of plants positioned above them?
>mosquito larvae can survive on peeIt´s ovarrr
>>2584952we had a heavy freeze (28F) two nights ago. Everything came in but tons of peach farmers around here got away with spraying their plants in the middle of the night to keep them from freezing.
I'm in zone 6a and have never grown anything before in my life. What should I start with this summer?
>>2585157Tomatoes and peppers I guess. What do you like? 6a can grow a lot of stuff
>>2584214There are two genus of pitcher plants native to North America.Cephalotus is native to Northern California and southern Oregon.Sarracenia has a huge range and is native to the gulf coast, up the eastern seaboard to New England, and across southern Canada.They are exotic looking, but they grow in cold climates as long as they are wet. You basically only find them in bogs.
>>2583800>>2583802>>2583856>The secret to gardening is that it is an art and you will develop your own way.For me it seems I'm having higher germination rates when i plant nearly newmoon, which confuses me bc literateratur claims fullmoon is the best time...
My cucumbers are looking alright, but some of them have slight yellowing around the outside of the leaves. How concerned about this should I be?
>>2585283I wouldn't worry about it
I spread compost last weekend. I've read not to plant for 2-3 weeks until it was last planted. Should I be concerned about starting planting today? I've got some cucumbers ready to go in the ground and I'm worried about the soil being too rich. Should I just give it another good mix in to be safe?
Anonsis /pol/ right about white clover?pic related
>>2585298If your cucumbers are little bitchesthey will surviveif he dies...he dies
Well shit I was ready to put some seedlings in the ground today because they're getting leggy and out growing the container but it's gonna rain like hell the next few days. What do I do?
>>2585240Cephalotus is Australian, you're thinking of Darlingtonia
>>2585300Besides the rambling about jews anon's pretty much spot on
>>2585320>t. fertilizer salesman
>>2585329Buddy I literally just said anon was right about clover
Will my seeds be fine if I plant them deep? Super leggy. First time. Kind of too late to simply restart them. Starting to move them outside today. Weather hasn't been super friendly to hardening them. Cucumbers are ready today I think I made the previous post about the compost.
>>2585335For reference it's a mix of tomatoes peppers and cucumbers you're looking at. Peppers are still salvageable i think they took longer to sprout
>>2585319That’s right, my bad
>>2585335Yeah. Tomatoes love being planted deep, so leggings shouldn’t be a problem. For cucurbits and squash I’ve never had an issue planting leggy ones deep either
>>2585300Legumes are the kings of fixing bad soil.
>>2584714>transplanting corni'm a corn newfag but i thought you were supposed to direct sow
>>2585358You are, transplanting corn makes about as much sense as transplanting lettuce. But on the other hand, it's not really going to hurt the corn in any way, and lots of people here lost some early crops from hail/frost the last couple weeks, so maybe it makes sense for a hobby farm/garden
I was a little worried the heat from the cover might dry out the ground. But I guess it maintains the humidity so high evaporation doesn't occur.
>>2585335all those little fuzzies on the stems of the maters can develop into roots if planted deeply. i believe cucurbits do the same. dunno if you mean to put them straight into your plot or not so I'll humbly suggest an intermediate up-potting into 1 or 2 gallon containers to let them beef up before putting them into their final home. less chance of failure due to pests, which leads me into>>2585365only way i can get lettuce is by transplanting seedlings. same for beans. direct sowing keeps the pill bugs happy instead of me.
>>2585388Maybe I just take for granted how easily lettuce grows here. I just plant rows and oversow the shit out of them, then cull the weak/small ones later. Bugs sometimes are a problem, but it grows so quick it doesn't seem to be too big of an issue. I kind of have the reverse problem of lettuce and wild mustard spreading and taking over my garden
>>2585351>>2585388thanks for the hopium bros, I'll keep on keeping onIs it worth putting them in larger containers first? I was gonna just go right into the gound because I was worried about transplant shock but I can definitely do that
So, my cousin is a professional small-scale farmer who clears about $275k/yr from his land (he also rents to cattle farmers for grazing on unused plots in rotation). He doesn't have fancy equipment except a tractor with a few attachments, and just does everything himself. Anyways, I was asking him for tips and he basically just said >Idk lol I just throw the seeds in the ground and that's basically it>I mix in manure when I can on unused sections or I feel it needs it, but generally speaking I just let nature do it's thing and then pick the stuff when it's readyWhat about weeds?>What about them? They flower and attract the beesThey get enough water?>seem to. Rained just last mornin'Just absolutely no care in the world about anything, I envy him
>>2585416How exactly is he making money? What is he selling?
>>2585358Yeah, you are "supposed to".Follow me into a garden, where normal things don't happen very often.
>>2585417He grows farmers market type vegetables (cukes, lettuces, carrots, radishes, etc), lots of mustard, cannabis that gets turned into edibles and probably a few other things. He also has a personal garden with berries and a few apple trees but I don't think he sells those (there's not really enough to sell). But he's also always trying new shit out and has a few small plots/gardens of test patches of things
>>2585421And he makes $275k/yr doing that? Holy fuck
>>2585337>>2585335tomatoes and peppers can be planted as deep as you want, the stem at anypoint will make roots.
>>2585422Well they do say land is one of the most valuable resources you can own
Gentlemen. Corn.
>>2585427
>>2585422I think the rental/grazing fees earn him a lot, but there's video series' on youtube showing people how to make $100k+ from just a single acre in most climate zones, he has like 500 acres.Locally grown produce is super trendy now, back where I lived in BC, Canada, people would just put fruit/vegetable/egg stands with a cash box at the end of their driveways and make a few hundred bucks a week with very low time investment (this method only works in a high trust community though)
Anyone know why this one Marigold sprout has a white stem instead of a red stem like it's sisters? I've treated it the exact same as all of the other siblings and can't find any explanation online.
>>2585432>Anyone know why this one Marigold sprout has a white stem instead of a red stem like it's sisters?It has not yet received my blessing
>>2585402at this stage they're very tender and there are many pests that could chew them up in short order were they to go straight into the ground. i always recommend up-potting into a 1-2 gallon container until they get to be about a foot tall with several sets of leafs before putting them in the ground.
>>2585449did some one say... pest damage?
>>2585449I just leave bird/squirrel feeders in the trees/on the fence away from the garden (ie, higher ticket items than random sprouts), plant catnip in a separate garden to encourage cats to start patrolling the yard which keeps the squirrels/mice away, and spray some plants with sugar water to encourage bees n shit to pollinate. Although I've never had to deal with a really bad aphid infestation or anything like that, so knock on wood I guess
>>2585436bless it already mofo. I gotta plant em
>*news cast music*>this is anon coming to you live after sub zero temperatures ravaged the garden>lets see who the survivors are and who the unlucky plants are>hazelnut transplants seem to be going strong, I do believe they aren't at a loss for comfort with the conditions
>>2585459>sunflowers? Yes, survived and growing to our surprise
>>2585461>this berry bush transplant?>a little red, but not dead and as they say, better red, than dead.
>>2585462>the radish is popping, but the pest damage is mounting, oh can it survive, Can, it, thrive?!>and on this week, guess whos back, thats right, long forgotten carrots are popping, and you though you'd never see them again
>>2585465>potatoes emerging past the frosty times, perfect timing one could call it, I'm sure they will take off well ahead of the completion with such an early start!
>>2585467>and to nobody surprise, faba is sitting comfortably, yes these bad boys can take freezing temps, so no surprise freezing wasn't even worth their attention!
>>2585468>What is surprising is the stab and drop fava with no care, no watering no weeding in the MIDST OF ENEMY TERRTORY is H-O-L-D-I-N-G ON ITS OWN, how far will it go, in its head to head battle? Only time will tell
>>2585469But it's not all great news folk, yes, some plants.... didn't make it. Winter squash or otherwise known as a pumpkin, dead. It seemed to deal with the cold fine but it seems freezing was just too much for it to deal with!
>>2585470>to nobodies surprise, the pepper didn't make it either, guess no amount of hardening can harden the fuck up a pepper, it remains soft, smooth to the touch, a fucking woman!
Can you guys help me identify this plant? I have two of these growing in a pot I tried planting zucchini seeds into earlier this year but haven't sprouted and I don't think these are them.
>>2585471>but here is something nobody expected>the knocked over>all roots torn except 1 side root>survives the Freeeeeeeeeezing temps!>sure its in bad shape, but can ya blame the guy, he was destined for death yet here he stands still!
>>2585473>rye? to nobodies surprise is going about its business comfortably>wait a minute, this just in captcha:HAGOP
>>2585477>onions? >covered
>>2585480>apple flowers>blooming
>>2585453my problem is pill bugs, tens of thousands of them, shredding leafs or any stem that isn't at least pencil width thick.
>>2585482>the bees are buzzing
>>2585489>my dick>is THROBBING>this concludes this news report, Anon signing out
>>2585483Oh damn, that's brutal. Idk what to do about that. We have them everywhere as well, but usually just under rocks/stumps/etc, they don't usually come out in the open at all. They don't seem to be that big of a problem, but I could see how it would be if there was 100x more of them
>>2583993>>2584002they eat the coffee filter paper i put in the bottom of my pots and enter so the soil escapes, i also use small rock wool pieces which may be a lot better since it is not really biodegradable so its a long term solution, but i think these little fuggers still push that in to enter on the pot
Happy Planting /hgm/!Orion here (zone 5) . I've been getting a good start to my seeding and feeding this year. I have one question: anyone know how to get rid of ground elder (Aegopodium podagraria)? I have a pretty shady area in my backyard and these chuds come back with vengeance every year. I'd like to get rid of them so I can plant lingon berry or some other kind of forest floor berry. I'm pretty sure what these are is ground elder. I tried covering them with fabric and mulch one year but they still came back. Anyone got any ideas?
Anyone else in Boise? My plants are getting the shit slapped out of them by this wind
>>2585514>ideasGetting rid of them?Only couple of options.Poison the area with some kind of herbicide.Dig up the area, pull majority of the rhizomes in the ground, and then keep a keen eye out for any small bits that you didn't get as they will instantly regrow into more plants, then pull them out as well.Last one is to keep mowing the area repeatedly for years. It will grow, but if you stay on top of killing it, it will eventually exhaust it's root supplies.I don't think any other methods work for doing the job.One is poison upon your land, the other is very labor intensive and keeps follow ups and the last one is very time intensive and requires constant presence.
>>2585492based
>>2583703how do I get rid of this shit?
What kind of pest does THAT damage to buds?!Something chewed through the bud scales and ate some of the leaves inside.The plant is in a pot, so this can't be anything that fails to crawl plastic vertically.This is not the first bud on a sapling to be damaged this way, I had this year same damage on saplings ~15cm above ground.
Squirrels are eating all of my sunchokes. I tried putting red hot pepper flakes all over and they still dug them up. I can't stand squirrels.
Lazy ass nextdoor neighbor has the largest plot of lawn and doesn’t do anything with it. Deer hang out there all day and a fat groundhog lives under her garage, taking any chance they can get to get into my yard and eat my garden. Trapping and drowning that cocksucker groundhog is going to be the highlight of my Summer.
>>2585588well I hate herbicides so I better get to work... hopefully my lingon berries can make it>>2585616Get good gloves and a weed pulling tool and yank those suckers out>>2585650I had a few in my yard and the squirrels didnt get them. Maybe put out bird seeds so they will eat them instead or try to attract predatory birds to take care of them somehow.
>>2585687>well I hate herbicidesme too, I'm not going to poison the area where I grow my food>hopefully my lingon berries can make itHow big is the infestation for you?
>>2585700It took me like 2 days working nonchalantly to get them out last time. It is quite a pain. I will plant lingon berries as well as cloud berries if possible when I pulls these chuds out of the ground. While the infestation is very dense, it is regulated to one back corner of my yard.
>>2585705>It took me like 2 days working nonchalantly to get them out last time.So you had a small enough patch that you could eliminate? hmmmmIn my case the infestation is terminal.
>>2585514Realistically the only option "to get rid of them", is completely nuclear. And even then, you're just slowing them down for a couple years at most. You're basically destined to be picking these out as they pop-up forever
>>2585710>>2585514Remember, they supposedly have good amounts of vitamin C in them and can be treated like spinach.If you can't beat em, eat em.
>>2585424I feel sorry for landlets
>>2585713>cries in Central European
>>2583703sup /out//n/erd hereso I moved into a place with pic related, yucca filamentosa aka adams needle.I looked it up and it is a very ez care plant so that's good, but I want to encourage more blooming if possible. the online info says to trim the stalk after the flowers die but some info said it doesn't really matter if I do or not. my questions:if I trim it soon, will it bloom again this year?do I trim the stalk or the branches? how far down in either case?if it won't bloom again this year anyway and I DON'T trim it, will it bloom the best it's going to bloom next year anyway (i.e. is there no bad outcome to doing absolutely nothing)?it sent out a bunch of baby plants that I'd like to transplant into the garden, I figured I'd do it during the winter. any specific advice? it says don't plant them any deeper than the level they are now is all I could find out thanks and if you have bike questions I can answer/link best info
>>2585735forgot pic
>>2585709>>2585710Yes. If I am more meticulous about carefully digging out the rhizomes this time then I can probably take them out for good at least put a major dent into their population. I also have ferns and hasta bros in that patch so I dont want to hurt them or let them get smothered either. Wish me luck, /hgm/ bros.
Lady at the grocery store garden center said this guy was dying, so I was able to get it for $1.50. Can it be saved, bros? It's leaves are all curled up and kind of hard.
>>2585792>tomatoeasy.Remove some lower leaves, plant the stem as deep as you can, give it water, give it shade and favorable temps.
>>2585796just in case somebody goes full retard.I mean cut the side stems, NOT the main stem
How short and aggressively could you cut back a mulberry without killing it?
>>2585796>>2585792Blast it with foliar spray and give it some magnesium ezpz
>>2584757In plug trays, plastic ones.
>>2585650I think I'm going to poison them.
>parasitic wasps tried laying their eggs in me againgreat, heres to a week of itching... fuck bugs while gardening
>>2585799you can also make cuttings from suckers/side-stems
>>2585735>it sent out a bunch of baby plants that I'd like to transplant into the garden, I figured I'd do it during the winter. any specific advice?Separating those "baby plants" from the main one is a weird procedure. They are connected to the main plant and often have no roots of their own. You need just to cut away them from the main plant, you can even just chop the plant in half (vertically). The "baby plants" are able to start literally with no roots, you just put them in soil and water them. You should do it within growing season, definitely not in winter.One serious warning: wear eye protection. That plant is a real cause of mechanical eye damage.As far as I know only maintenance the plant needs is to tear off (literally, tear off) all leaves that withered. I always cut the blooms for esthetics.
>>2585686The groundhog sucked your cock?
>>2585803> How short and aggressively could you cut back a mulberry without killing it?In general trees survive loss of at least 1/3 of its mass.I think mulberry can be cut much more aggressively. Have a look at the pictures here: https://bibliotekanauki.pl/articles/2049671.pdf . It seems that my local university recommends almost willow-like pruning (to harvest the leaves).Nevertheless, you will stress the tree. Expect unexpected. One scientific report says that a tree shocked by loss of one of its main branches changed sex of another branch.(Pic source: "The nature of the diecious condition in morus alba and salix amygdaloides." by John H. Schaffner.)
>>2585796>>2585815Snipped it and stuck it deeper into the ground. Here's hoping it bounces back!
David the Good and Self Sufficient Me are dangerously based. In case anyone was wondering. They probably post here.
>>2585864thanks, anon. the baby plants are coming up about ten meters away, the plant in the picture must have sent roots under the asphalt and that was the closest opening. since the main plant is done blooming , would now still be considered growing season or should I wait until next spring?
What can I plant to keep cats out of my yard? Other than landmines.
>>2585924You can plant mints near where you don't want them, like your garden. I don't think you could or should stop it from using your yard as a highway.
>>2585928I could always put up an owl box.
Well today was the final day of moving the rest of my shit outside. Now we play the waiting game.Happy gardening boys.
>>2585879get that nigga a bamboo rod to help it stay up you goober nugget
My tomato seedlings are purple and they haven't gotten their true leaves yet. I'm guessing they're too cold? Should I put a heating pad under them?
>>2585964No. How cold is the room? Can you put them inside? How tall are they? I wouldn’t use a heating mat for anything but germination
>>2585968When I started them two weeks ago it was still somewhat on the colder side, around 60F to 70F. It had gotten warmer recently, around 80F to 90F or so last week so I stuck them out in the sunlight for most of the day and brought them back inside after the sun went down since it still gets down to 50F at night.
>>2585974They are tall enough that you could try repotting, repotting is great for tomatoes. Your temps are definitely fine. Maybe also water a bit more?Just from my experience, I always get leggier plants when I use heating mats. They probably speed up germination for peppers, but are useless other than that. If the average temp of where you are keeping the tomatoes is around 70 or more then they should grow fine.
>>2585909>it sent out a bunch of baby plants>about ten meters awayWait, what? Now I'm confused.I've never seen a yucca grow a new "baby plant" farther than a dozen of inches.Are you sure that it's vegetatively propagated specimen and not a new seedling?
>>2585879Now shade for a couple of days, intense sun is a no no while it's recovering.
>>2583829My wife went through 3(!) packs of thyme and we broke down and bought some starters at a local thing.
>>2583703Lads... 3 and a half months laterWe have... a wild capsicum pratermissium>most wild peppers take 3 to 5 months to germinateI also think my capsicum flexuosum are finally breaking seed (flexuosum is the world's only cold hardy chili capable of surviving and retaining leaves at NEGATIVE 15 celsius and possibly belowfor those who don't knowpratermissum and flexuosum are bridge species so in theory I can use these 2 to bring cold hardy genes to baccatum, frutascen, chinense and annum peppers (commonly cultivated pepper species)
>>2583829>>2586136Whenever I don't cut my thyme in time, I get whole surroundings full of little thyme seedlings...Most probably something is wrong with your seeds. Shit happens.I recently sow oregano (my old plant somehow lost aroma) seeds from two different suppliers at the same time, seeds from one sprouted readily, from the other failed to start. There were absolutely no difference in conditions. Both seed packets bought in the same store.
Can somebody edit the coomer into "Ahhh I'm planting" "carries 10 seed packets with him at al times just to have a quick plant" "thinks about planting mutliple times per day" etc?
>>2586239Kill yourself frogjack scum.
>>2586239hows this?
>>2586214>Most probably something is wrong with your seeds.You don't say
>>2586260Thanks>>2586257I'm sorry anon, but it's literally me
found a nice surpise just now, I had a bunch of pawpaw seeds that I had sitting in a cup that I had forgotten about for several months. Just was cleaning up and I looked and there were 3 sprouts.
>>2585998yeah, it's not ten meters, it's like 3 meters, sorry. anyway I just assumed they were attached to the big plant, but I don't really know. but these ones came up this year. I thought they were lariope until they got this size and the filaments curled off the leaves
>>2586303>>2585998anyway do you think I can transplant them now or next spring ?
Noob gardener here,can someone please tell me what these brown irregular spots, 'scars' are on my sweet potato slips? I just transplanted them to the garden after sprouting them. I tried to look into whether I could be potentially overwatering or underwatering but google says the symptoms are so similar. Or maybe it's something else entirely?
>>2585870>Zdjęcie 9that's basically what I was thinking
the fucking state of my corn..first time trying to grow corn, sowed it in early may, the first seedlings started appearing at least a week ago, now there aren't any new ones coming but there's still a bunch missing. what do? wait? start over?
Lowe's is selling Spanish Lavender as a perennial in Zone 5b. That is a lie.
>>2586345Did you inform the greenhouse staff?
>>2586349>big box store employees>giving a shit/authorized to do anythingPick one
>>2586330I always over-sow, at least three or four seeds per hole a couple inches deep and soak em the night before. soil has to be warm enough too. still plenty of time to sow more.
anyone ever grow cotton? Im probably too far north but id like to attempt it.
>>2586362thanks for the tip, my germination has been fucking shit too, it's been 2-3 weeks and temps are 60-80 degreesjust threw a bunch in a kelp immulsion soak and i'll plant another batch tomorrow
>>2586349Certain varieties are reported as being able to eek out a winter in zone 6, but it seems like gambling considering the general species is only hardy to zone 8.
Guys I’ve started swapping plants with cute girl from work. It’s feels good man. First time I’ve had a garden buddy.
>>2583703>plant majority of my beet, carrot, parsnip, and radish seeds two weeks after declared last frost date>freak storm brings just enough cold to Pennsylvania to kill themNothing but 9 beets survived. I planted like 800 seeds total and got 9 plants. And I don't even like beets that much. They were just cheap.
>>2586330>he direct sowed instead of cell tray transplantI like to have autistic tier control over germination and then transplant small cells right after they sprout, in my case thats 6 days for signs of germination. and about 94% success rate.If you direct sow, you are supposed to sow more than you need so you either transplant the ones you dont need into where you have gaps, or just thin it down to what you need.Also while we are on corn, one of my weather stations is scarming me by telling me each weekend one day will go to low temps down to almost freezing. its like its trying to not get my hopes up by telling me every weekend there might be a chance for a killing frost
what is the pill on the organic decomposable seed starting pods like pic rel? I planted corn and cucumbers in these and they did really well and I transplanted them into the garden this week. I also planted watermelon, squash, zucchini, and cantaloupe recently and they have just begun to sprout. I figured since I could plant the sprouts without disturbing the soil inside and the roots it would be better than the plastic pods
>>2584306based gf keep her
>>2584544looks fucking amazing any strawberry growing tips? I also want to make jam
started a compost pile next to a pine tree growing in my yard right on the ground so worms and shit could get into it but 99% of what I have put on it is just grass clippings from mowing the lawn. Will this be ok to add to my garden soil by next spring? what should I look to add to it or should I slow down on the grass clippings? Also, I mixed it around with a pitchfork today and towards the center there was so much heat on the inside the outside layer of dry grass started smoking and the fork was scalding hot. Wtf
I applied synthetic fertiliser and suddenly all my lettuce is growing way faster than before and is very greenFuck organic gardenersAnyway I'm still on the search for the most efficient way of improving soilThinking of just buying some raw manure, digging it in and leaving it for a month or so, not to fertilise but to add organic structure
>>2586455Grass likes to clump together and grow funky bacteria. Make sure to really mix it daily.
>>2586461I applied pervitin to my track and field runners and now they are out running everybody else and are way hypedFuck natty runners
>>2586462why would the bacteria be a problem? its a fuck ton of grass and shit mixing it daily would be a serious hassle but i would do it if really necessary
>>2586466>Fuck natty runnersThis but unironically
>>2586472Olympics got really gay with the ban on chemical enhancementsI want to see the outer limits of human physiology that go beyond natureFasterHigherStronger
>>2586203Keep posting the progress, very interesting!I've never heard of that variety
>>2586476me too, they are like prototypes for super humans. Sure your balls will disappear but no one will give a fuck when you bench press a tank.
>click into a "composting guide" video>karen in yoga pant bring the food scrap up to her counter, clean them on the sink, and slice carefully on her cutting boardwhoa...femoid never fails to make shit as pretentious as possible
>>2586513I mean slicing it up might make it compost quicker but with the months it takes to fully compost something it's probably not worth it. Washing your scraps seems like a gigaretard move, that's like cleaning off your cum tissue before tossing it.
>>2586515>that's like cleaning off your cum tissue before tossing it.Wait, you don't do this?anon...
>>2586516Personally I scrape the dried cum flakes off the tissue/rag straight into the garden. It's like bone meal but I never run out.
>>2586471Produces bad chemicals and eats all the good stuff from the grass. Rather than compost you'll end up with a grey/black toxic goop that'll kill any plant. If you want a more in-depth understanding go watch a YouTube video about it. Plain grass clippings are better used as mulch. I suggest composting an equal amount of wood, paper, and or cardboard to plant and grass clippings. The brown stuff provides carbon and the green stuff nitrogen. Mix in any food scraps regularly to your pile. If you aren't getting a dry browning of your compost then I suggest getting some compost starter. You can also use old yeast in compost.
>>2586521>>2586516>>2586515You guys seriously have fun rags? You realize you the best thing you can do is to cum directly in your veggies. I’ve even pollinated some plants with my speed before
So 3 years ago I threw out some daikon seeds for fun.I let them nature and go to seedThe daikon takeovers slowly stealing my dogs shit area I never eat them and just let them spreadwhat are the implication of making dog piss and shit resistant daikonAt this point I'm 99% sure they survive solely off my dogs piss instead of water>hilariously enough the soil over here used to be sandy shit soil and its become this compost piss daikon stuffbeunoalso you can buy deer daikon for 20 bucks and it's a 5 pound bagI toss them all over my city for a laughthe daikon will inherit the earth
>>2586561>I throw them all over for a laugh>daikon will inherit the earthBased Monoculturist. FUCK native plants.
>>2586311Lots of old hedges look like that here around...
>>2586570It's specifically Tillage daikonour whole town is fucking sand or clay The daikon is repairing all this shit soil when it dies and repairs the soil it allows native plants and animals to live in those areasTillage daikon will save the townthat area where the dog piss and daikon are used to be fucking sand m8IM DOING MY PART
>>2585686caught it within an hour of setting the trap hahaha dumb fuck ya like digging dirt too bad you can’t dig water. Hope I buried it shallow enough to attract a coyote and keep the deers the fuck away from my roses. Tick ridden cunts
>>2586364Just make sure to pick your own.
Why are perennials so expensive
>>2586203MY FUCKING COLD HARDIES JUST POPPEDTOOK 4.5 MONTHS BUT THOSE LITTLE PEPPER FUCKERS JUST POPPEDI'm gonna fucking cry ladsI've been waiting for these and ther germination rates are lucky to grt 2 or 3 peppers per 100 seeds.People will spend hundreds to thousands of dollars to recreate its fucking biomeI spent 10 dollars for a retard hydro pot on Amazon and it fucking workedjust transplanted them to soilCapsicum caatingae (another wild type) has just been fucking planted4 months to goI'm autistically ecstatic
>>2586590>Tick ridden cuntswhats the point of ticks in nature? who even eats them
>>2586364i did grow G herbaceum but it dindu go well
>>2583703didn't feel like bothering so I just scattered a bunch of onions and carrots in a spot of ground I turned over, covered them with some compost I loosely mixed in with the soil, and walked away before it rains. How likely am I to actually get anything out of this kek?
>>2586260>feeds plants with his own urinekek
>>2586636can't relate but I'm happy you're happy>>2586648depends on how deep the seeds are in the soil
>>2586649w-whats so funny about that? e-everybody does that...
Nice to be getting some green throughout the garden now. Potatoes and onions have been up for a while. Carrots are nearly all up. First batch of beans started poking through the soil yesterday two weeks after planting. Planted the second batch of beans today, they'll probably be up in a week as they germinate faster the warmer the soil gets. Its hardly worth the effort to direct seed them early as the second batch usually catches up with the first. Just enough room for another two rows in a few weeks. Put the fence back up around the garden as the dog started wandering around in there. The potatoes need to be fence in as well as they are heavily shaded and get tall and flop over.
>>2586666It's always curious to see other peoples gardens, it's so neat, orderly, weed free....
>>2586537thank you anon
I wish I could find something to line a small pond that doesn't cost a ton of money. I want to do up a little frog pond because it's been a dry year so far.
>>2586673Can't you just use a tarp?
>>2586683and make the freaking frogs GAY?!
There's a chonky groundhog living under my deck.Haven't noticed any damage to my plants so far so we are in a state of cold war
>>2585619Those are fucking SLUGS!Slugs obliterated my trees!This one had leaves yesterday, now it has stumps covered with slime.Several days of cloudy weather, one rain and I've got half of the saplings damaged by those minions of evil.I guess I need to prepare a bucket of salt and collect slugs in there every few hours for a couple of weeks.
>>2586537ok anon I went and turned the pile with a spade and pitchfork and mixed in a trash bag full of straw I had while I was at it. not sure if that counts as brown or green but I was thinking about adding some rotted log material and turning it again. the smell was absolutely noxious and there was so much heat at the center of the pile it was smoking
>>2586683Can a tarp hold 100+lbs of water without leaking?
>>2586673Look up sealing ponds with clay
When transplanting rhubarb, remember to tell the rhubarb how proud you are of it and that you're sure it'll do a great job.
>>2586745why delete?
are soil blocks a way to root cuttings?
my chili bush. about 40cm tall, plenty of flowers and chilis are about 2cm long. no clue what it is :)
>>2586783Chocolate something. I'm getting a naga or scorpio derived vibe but it's too early for reapers to turn.
>>2586466Gardening isn't a competition you idiotThe situations aren't comparable at all
>>2586364>>2586639found a pic
>>2583703what the fuck is this
>spend a month nurturing honeydew melon seeds>grow in to seedlings and start getting their vine tendrils >plant in garden near some wire to act as a trellis>carefully tie the plants with twine to anchor it>all the leaves consumed when I wake up in the morningTOTAL RABBIT DEATH. They can't keep getting away with it. My yard is fully fenced in how do they keep getting in. Why can't they just eat all the clover and dandelions and leave my plants alone.
>>2586461keep dreamin´, u may be doing sumzing wrong
>>2586847My ass
>>2586637Possums birds etc
WHEN WILL THERE BE A NEW THREAD
>>2586890wait til page 10 dumb frogposter
>>2586847PlantNet says mustard.
>>2586906Though, note that PlantNet has a tendency to be grievously wrong and it's told me that poisonous plants were vegetables before.
>>2586718There are tarps for ponds. EPDM is best, PE prob cheaper although if your size is only going to hold 100+lbs of water you might as well just use a big bucket.
>>2586823>The situations aren't comparable at allMan uses something that gives them short term results and is very pleased with it, but neglects the long term cost.
>>2586944There is no long term cost for the home gardenerModern fertilisers do not lead to harmful salt accumulation nor do they harm the soil in anyway
>>2586953>nor do they harm the soil in anyway
>>2586618Slower growing, don't always fruit in the first season, high value because they last multiple seasonsGrow them from seed if price hurts
So this happened to my slugbait about a week-ish after setting out. As far as I understand this is just the pellets naturally decomposing. Can anyone confirm that this won't kill my taters?
>>2586989Where to source seedIdk what I'm doing
>>2587034Johnnys seedsBaker creek heirloomsBotanical interestsBurpeeEd HumeFerry Morse All of these are solid seed companies, some just cover the basics, others have some off the wall selections.If you’re adventurous, go collect seed from wild plants.Another option is to talk to people at your local horticultural groups for saved seeds. Or just locals with gardens. I found a little Knick knacks shop in a tiny Utah town where this old ladybugs hoarded seed from desert plants and was selling it in home made seed packets.
>>2587038>Johnnys Sins seed
RIP honest farmer (and thread)
>>2587096Praised by many as out standing in his field.
>>2587097kek
>>2587096>David Brandt, the Ohio farmer who became a viral meme after espousing the virtues of “honest work,” has died after being involved in a car crash in Illinois. He was 76.>The fatal accident occurred Thursday while Brandt was on a seed-selling trip in Urbana. He reportedly succumbed to his injuries this past Sunday.
>>2587096that fatso was most likely an absolute retard that flooded everything in biocides
>>2587171Actually he was a soil sustainability and no-till advocate.
>>2587187if memory serves me right, they still used herbicide to kill the last crop before planting in new crop/cover crop sometimes.correct me if I'm wrong on that.
I refuse to post in this thread until a new thread is made
this joke isn't funny anymore!
>>2586953>nor do they harm the soil in anywayThey starve it, sometimes until a big chunk of it dies.
where the fuck was the new thread post? >>2587039>>2587039>>2587039>>2587039
