And how much water do you hike with and in what environment?
>>25546422-4 1 liter bottle in side pockets with 2L bag in my pack as needed. Usually just use whatever water bottle I buy at the gas station at the start of my trip.
>>2554642>>2554645oh and how much? totally depends on where I am. In somewhere with lots of water I might not even really carry water and just drink at sources. In the desert? I've carried up to 10L
>>2554642(2) 1L SmartWater bottles, one in each side pocket, and a 500mL sparkling ice bottle in a shoulder pocket. That’s in the southeastern US. I can sometimes get away with less. The time of year makes a big difference.
>>2554642I carry my water in my bladder, why would you need an external source. Drink your piss.
>>2554642for just a normal little sleep in the woodstwo of the tall, Nalgenes, they are close to 1.5 liter eachif im canoeing i have a 6L bag, cant remember the brandalso had a camelback that came with one of my rucks but it got moldy and gross really fasti use a sawyer squeeze if its water that i dont trust
>>2554642After a lot of experimentation I've settled on the 96 oz. Nalgene Cantene, a 1L Platypus folded up in a sack with my filter (which is a pump, not gravity), and two standard Nalgene bottles in the side pockets.The Cantene is a pain in the ass because the cap makes it fairly bulky even when the thing is folded, but I make it fit. If you go on more than just solo dayhikes the need for bigger water storage options becomes obvious quickly.
>>2554745>If you go on more than just solo dayhikes the need for bigger water storage options becomes obvious quickly.It really depends on where you are. Eagle Rock Loop in Ouachita NF is maybe 26 miles long but has like a dozen creek crossings.
>>2554642For a day hike, 3L CamelBak + 1L bottle in case the bladder leaks. One night backcountry camp, 8L. I recently got a filter and I've been marking cattle tanks on my National Forest maps so I can plan routes where I don't have to carry so much.
>>2554749(Southern Arizona)
>>2554642>How Does /out/ Carry Their Water?smartwater bottles everywhere else. 2L water bladders in the desert.>how much water do you hike with0-1L where i live. whatever i plan to immediately drink.>and in what environment?pacific northwest, where there's decent to high quality water source every mile or two tops.
>>2554745depends where you live.you could survive indefinitely with an empty smartwater bottle and an empty mini arrowhead bottle here in the pnw, or at least until one of the bottles springs a leak. even on very long trips you don't need to carry any water if you're in the western half of the states.
>>2554806>smartwater bottles everywhere elseswapped out for wide mouth nalgenes when it gets below freezing
whats the deal with Smartwater bottles? these disposable bottles are typically so thin id never consider reusing one of them
>>2554642
>>2554819few reasons they are really popular. dasani and some other brands of water bottles tick most of the boxes too.- they're thin enough to deform but thick enough that you can rely on them in the backcountry.(you only use the same bottle for a month at most to minimize xenoestrogen leeching.) - they have the same threads as sawyer filters, and the sports cap is the perfect shape/size for backflushing a sawyer filter.- the long, tall shape is the ideal for reaching/stuffing in side pockets without taking your pack off, and fitting multiple in the same side pocket.
lifewtr and a few other brands of water bottles are basically the same as smartwater except with slightly thicker and less flexible plastic btw. also good options.& the reason its good to have a bottle that deforms is gathering from shallow water sources if you don't want to bring a bladder or funnel or something dedicated to the task.
is it a bad idea to just use soda bottles ? I mean just for one trip, not reusing them for a long time bc ive heard plastic bottles release microplastica and shit after à while.
>>2554834sometimes cleaning the sticky from the sugar out without bleach or anything that degrades the plastic is a hassle. and you can sometimes fit an extra bottle in your side pocket with the tall skinny waterbottles.if you don't use a sawyer filter... really no reason not to, go wild.
>>2554819They’re not like the 24 pack of 1/2 liter Dasani bottles. As far as disposable water bottles go, they’re actually pretty tough. People use them for months at a time on thru hikes. If you’re using it to filter water through a Sawyer filter it might not last as long. I’ve never had one crack, but they do start to get creases in them. Another reason to use them is weight savings. Two 1L SmartWater bottles will weight 2.4oz total. Two of the same size Nalgene bottles are a combined 12.4oz. It’s a pretty significant amount.
>>2554851>10 oz is a pretty significant amount of weight.Have you tried not being weak?
>>2554930No matter how strong you are, you can go farther and faster with a lighter pack. And trekking poles.
Camelback 3LNalgene 1LKatadyn befree 1L
Thermos or random bottles. Depends on season
>>255493010oz here and there winds up being 10lbs once you cut all the inefficiencies and useless shit out of your kit. a water bottle doesn't need to be more than an ounce, and as far as i'm aware, the light weight ones that deform perform better because they can be squished to gather water from shallow streams. let's say its above freezing so you don't need something wide mouth.and i use a sawyer filter like most human beings because i'm not an autistic sperg.can you give me any good reasons why a nalgene would be worth the 500% increase in weight or a steel bottle would be worth the 20,000%+ increase in weight, and needing to carry an adapter for my water filter?
>>2554851>>2554822do you guys cover it with something so the sun doesn't break down the thin plastic and get into the drink? also once you start hiking longer trips do you just stop caring about water temperature? i currently use a light metal bottle so the water stays cool. i live in a hot state
>>2554930Post like this just mark you as someone who doesn’t actually go outside.
>>2555135are you the faggy that calls people "nuout" in every thread?
i bought a bunch of stainless bottles off of aliexpress. plastic bottles are a meme.
>>2555136>everyone is the same personGo outside, schizo. It will help your mental health and help you lose weight.
>>2555138Babies first gear purchase, and it’s a meme.
>>2555147its a high iq purchase, im sorry the chemicals from plastic bottles have eroded your brain
>>2555157Another meme. Have fun playing GI Joe in the woods.
>>2555146I knew it, it is you
>>2555160the plastic bottle cartel is getting bold and desperate in their attacks, furiously clutching for any sort of relevancy in the face of superior and economical chinese stainless steel bottles.
>>2555163No, it’s not. Start going outside (we know you do t).
>>2555131>do you guys cover it with something so the sun doesn't break down the thin plastic and get into the drink?it gets covered up by the backpack pocket anyways.if you toss the bottle out after around month you eliminate most of the xenoestrogen leeching. they cost a dollar, just throw it away before the plastic breaks down. at that point its no more exposure than drinking beer out of an aluminum can or soda out of a plastic bottle. which i'm sure you do on occasion, or maybe even frequently in your day to day life. another option is, any high grade silicone water bladder isn't gonna have xenoestrogens. that's what i use in the desert. >the thin plastic smartwater bottles are kind of thin but they use a higher grade plastic than most waterbottles so they're actually rather durable. the only time they ever break before i would toss them out naturally is when the cap begins to leak or the sports cap falls apart. the bottle itself is rather strong for being a water bottle. >also once you start hiking longer trips do you just stop caring about water temperature?i don't think i've ever seen someone hiking long distance use a double wall container before. almost everyone uses smartwater bottles to the point that the gear surveys don't even ask about it anymore. occasionally you see water bladder users. very rarely you'll see a single wall aluminum or steel bottle. never seen a double wall on a thru/section hiker's back once.
>very rarely you'll see a single wallin 3 seasons i should sayonce its winter its all nalgenes and steel bottles with the occasional gatorade enjoyer
>>2555169stop spamming the board with "nuout" this and that
>>2555426Is that what it would take to get your fat ass away from a computer screen? You need that guy to stop calling a slow, obscure message board by a silly name?
>>2555136anon isn't wrong, posts like this >>2554930 are peak newfag and also tiresome. we get it you're 17 and live in some faggy country like the uk where "wild camping" is illegal so you have to live vicariously through shitting on people who actually /out/.
>>2554930have you ever done a scramble or gone climbing before retard?
>>2555469Ironically I've found it easier to camp in parts of the Uk than in parts of the states. The permit systems there are crazy. It's always made me chuckle that the "loicense" jokes are pointed at the brits when you literally need a permit to camp in some places in the US.t. a northern european who preferes /out/ing in the states
>>2555478they made camping in the uk and wales illegal last year https://www.euronews.com/travel/2023/01/19/the-right-to-wild-camp-has-been-lost-in-england-where-in-europe-can-you-still-pitch-a-tent
>>2555478>some places in the US.Yeah, some national parks and state parks that are generally kind of busy.
>>2554642Camal back with a water filter inline2l bottle on the pack with 2 empty 1l foldable water bladders.
>>2555478If it's a national or state park you can expect to pay. Some monuments dependingIf it's designated wilderness or a national forest you could sell moonshine and bury dead bodies without being bothered. Tbh I've always figured back country permit systems are more for the hikers benefit in case they get trapped or die, people know to come looking
How much is really a question of the time of year and the location. In a lot of areas around me there's streams every couple of miles, so unless route plan said different I am usually good carrying 2L and filling up again near when and where I plan to camp. I have a fold top bag I use for dirty water so in addition to the bottles I retain the ability to store an additional 2L. I typically don't vary that much even on a day hike, would rather carry the water weight than go thirsty. I will make exceptions for example if I know there's a reliable source after a big uphill climb. On the bike its again about 2L but the distance covered usually means there's an easy opportunity to refill, for touring I sometimes bump that to 3-4L just to reduce stops especially in the summer.I will typically go with smart water bottles just for the weight and thread capability. During winter I switch to the nalagenes, made coozies for them out of reflectix to keep them from freezing and to be able to store hot water in them. I will sometimes bring either a .5L nalagene or 700ml smart water that fits a front pocket on the shoulder strap, just more convenient to drink out of especially on longer days.
>>2555478wilderness permits are just so they can find you if you die. they are usually free.
>>2555478Eurofaggot btfo.
>>2554642>How Does /out/ Carry Their Water?With passion and purpose.
>>25547498L ain't no joke, how do you carry that? Dromedary bags?
>>2554930Damn, looks like no one agrees with you. Maybe you should actually go in some hikes to see why (you won’t; stay fat and stay mad).
>>2554642For short runs, 3L camelbak bladder in my pack, plus a 1L beat-to-shit hydroflask clipped somewhere. Hasn’t failed me yet.For longer trips, I usually just stuff more 3L bladders in the pack. They’re super light and compress well when empty, unlike bottles/jugs.
