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#469- “Drinks Best Fishin Alone” Edition

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>>2542929

janny pls…

Thinking about picking up a new hobby? Want to get a memecaster? Haven't mastered the Palomar knot? Click here!
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First for best telescopic rod is the one you exchanged for a 3pc.

Talk about fishin
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Noob here. How's this look for first gear purchase?
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>>2549895
lol
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>>2549898
What are you fishing for? Did you already order? You can buy decent starter rod/reel for not much more than that and it will be much nicer.
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>>2549898
>>2549895
Realtree 6ft 6in Medium Spinning Rod and Reel Combo. I suggested this for my cousin he bought it Likes Good starting pole.
If you could give us more information like what state you in? a local lake you might be fishing in? XY and Z anything. You know about your area?
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>>2549969
that looks trash
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>>2549969
In Northern Virginia, probably going to be fishing in lakes (there's one man made one stocked nearby that's supposed to be a good fishing spot), or the Potomac river.
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>>2549895
Lol I dunno, I can't catch shit.
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>>2549898

I don't get it. What are you trying to land? I don't use a lot of nets. I just get it close enough to shore to grab the fish by the hand.

Half the time I'm fishing for bluegill or crappy with heavy line, and if that is the case I just lift the rod till its out of the water and onshore. If it's a big bass, then I might try to grab it out of the water. I don't really use nets, I don't catch fish big enough to justify one.
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>>2549877
Thanks for getting your shit together with the picture. More boobies next time though.
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>>2549993
Your gear should be pretty good at this time of year in North Virginia I would suggest throwing a jerk bait or at chatter bait.
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Fished a Florida fishing pier every day the last week. Pretty sure I have to stop for my sanity.
>Man from Quebec strikes up a conversation
>Five minutes later handles a Skipjack/leatherjacket with his bare hands & runs off the pier screaming when it stung him
>Next day someone asks me if he can use M80s on the pier
>Tell him dynamite is illegal & he'd probably go to prison or get fined into debt if he tried blowing up the reef
>Another person sees me measuring a Lane snapper
>Assumed ALL fish are the same species & gets fined when a greenshirt sees him keeping a 10 inch flounder
>100s of boomers taking pictures of pelicans, most letting their children PET these birds, a few kids get bit & cry until they're shamed off the pier
>Have to tell someone not to touch a stone fish with their bare hands because they're poisonous (might have saved someone's life)
>Little girl saying out loud "I'm the child I'm the child" and her mom going "I'm the mommy I'm the mommy" like some kind of broken NPC loop
>Multiple people letting their kids run down the pier in the dark, across people's fishing lines, landing on hooks in the dark
>people biking down the pier and getting flats
>People casting into the wind
>People nearly getting snagged by people about to cast CONSTANTLY
>boomer drops his phone into the 12 foot high tide taking a picture of the beach
>Dives into the water after it
>Never saw him again
>Kids pretending to punch people by pulling their punches a second from people's faces and going "PSYCHEEE"
I don't know what I expected.
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>>2550058
Florida man is a stereotype for a reason. The closer to the beach, the crazier. And then you reach the panhandle
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>>2550058
Keep going just for more stories. Im inland so we dont have piers either, are they just covered with loose hooks or something? That sounds dumb as hell
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>>2550063
>>2550063
This pier doesn't have tables, so the cutting boards are built into the railings. Everyone is constantly leaving espoused knives, sabiki rigs, & all sorts of stuff on the ground along this stretch of the floorboards. Kids run wherever, so they don't know any better. Did I mention there were NO lights at night? It's Pompano if you really want to see it (short as fuck, I'm probably gonna go to deerfield instead). Oh! Another thing I remembered. For some reason, on a saturday, the owners of the place shoed everyone off 15 minutes before closing around 10PM because "they didn't want to mess with the police". On my way out there were three officers waiting for something as people left. Super weird, still have no idea what that was about. It's just as well, EVERYTHING I caught was under sized. We're talking three inch Yellowtail Snapper, 7 inch Lanes, 12 inch muttons, etc. I hope it's just a seasonal thing & it's fished out due to the tourists. Anyone know if florida fishing gets better after spring break, or is this just how it IS now? When I did this as a kid in the 2000s you could catch bonefish, 2 lb snapper, all sorts of stuff. Tried one day for pompano IN pompano & got nothing, even with one of those three hook rigs.
>Fish I caught as a kid & haven't seen in two decades (are they seasonal?)
Whiting
Bone Fish
Bluefish
Lady Fish
Pompano
Pilchards/sardones/threadfin(where are the baits?)
All manners of small jacks & random fish are gone too. I can't catch anything on a sabiki unless I use squid, & it's always sand perch or pinfish
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>>2550068
>Anyone know if florida fishing gets better after spring break, or is this just how it IS now?
If you're fishing off of pears you're not really gonna catch anything good. find some secret places some saltmarshes drainage rivers Tiny canals. Anything that isn't a pear with a million other anglers all Trying to catch Fish smaller than blue gills

you're missing Out on peacock bass Clown knife fish And snake head if you're not going freshwater.
Even the gar are fun to catch
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>>2550068
Even if you skip fresh water you still have snook, Sea trout, Read Drum and tarpon
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>>2550068
Pier fishing in California is also terrible because you don't need a license to fish at one.
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>>2550098
In Florida, pretty sure you need a license for saltwater shore fishing, but it’s $0.00.

Not like the minorities care about the rules.
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>>2550058
I love these updates, please keep reporting your pier experiences.
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>>2549877
Anyone ready for flathead fishing this summer?
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>>2549898
The fenwick combos are great and priced fairly, can often get them on sale. Look at the eagle, night hawk or hmx combos. HMG is a bit more. Perfect all purpose rods, good quality and good warranty. Don't even need to upgrade the rod/reel per say can just add other rods in the future for different purposes.
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>>2550068
Its probably just pressured heavily, and all the fish nearby became less retarded so now only the little ones still get caught
saltwater fishing is usually easy as fuck because theres so many fish they never really become selected enough to ever get any smarter vs lures and hooks like freshwater fish do, but on a pier i could see it happening over years
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Question about fishing in California. If I’m fishing a waterway that’s within the city limits, but feeds out to the ocean do I need an ocean endorsement?
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>>2550245
Ask your dnr
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>>2550245
City limits don't have anything to do with it afaik. I think it all boils down to whether the water is fresh or salt. Moot point anyway CA rangers only exist during lobster season.
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>>2550245
just pack a judge for the wardens
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What law says I can’t catch and use seagulls as bait? They’re not federally protected and are classified as a pest right?
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>>2550355
Seagulls are protected by the Migratory Bird Act and are not legal to kill.
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>>2550355
Most birds aside from game birds are protected. I think there are exceptions for protecting crops from crows and stuff, but generally speaking just don't kill birds.
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>>2550370
I’m in cali though they’re everywhere
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>>2550355
ive killed 4 seagulls and dozens of mutton birds this year already. mostly with rocks
i am the notorious R O C K
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>>2550355
I used the flesh of a parrot as a bait last year
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>>2550400
How's that happen?
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>>2550398
Based I want to exterminate all those albatross shitting everywhere and eating all the smol fish.
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>>2550417
take them out, one rock at a time.
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>>2550406
Skinned a parrot
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SDFish is down. San Diego anglers, report in. There should be about 12 of you.
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>>2550437
Surely not half of the posters in this thread are from SD
I'm on SD but I do kayak fish in la Jolla once in a while
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I was *recently* (Christmas) given this rod. I have no real experience with freshwater fishing. What should I do with it in the way of line and usage?
If it helps I'm in like the dead center of nj so I have a wide range of fishing habitats to take advantage of.
Thank you for your advice wise Fishmen
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>>2550465
Spool it with 30lb moss green power pro, and while you're at Walmart pick up some rubber frogs (5/8 Oz or bigger) a 3/8 Oz spinner bait, some 1/4 Oz jigheads, and some paddle tail swimbaits to go with them. Watch a YouTube video on how to spool it, then watch a video on how to tune it, and lastly go watch a YouTube video on how to cast it. You will then be ready to harass freshwater bass.
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>>2550479
Thank you
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>>2550479
>some rubber frogs
I wouldn't suggest Top Water frogs That's a hard beginner bait He's not gonna have the finesse to set the hook properly and will lose many bass.
go with top water popper, Jerk bait, Spinner bait, chatter bait, Square bill,
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>>2550429
curious, what type of parrot and did you get bites?
my neighbour has hundreads of birds in a giant cage up against my fence
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>>2550527
They will accelerate the anon's learning
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>>2550479
>30lb moss green power pro,
Non american here, isn't 30lbs braid way too fucking heavy for bass?
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>>2550629
Braid is stronger than mono at the same diameter so 30lb braid is roughly the same diameter as 8lb mono
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>>2550629
You don't need 30 lb line for bass, but if you're putting braid on a baitcaster you need to use heavy line because braid is thinner than monofilament and you shouldn't put super thin line on a baitcaster
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>>2550629
>>2550642
the answer is still yes
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>>2550465
>>2550479
>>2550647
Don't use 30lbs braid. Even 40 lbs will dig into the spool. For a baitcaster, especially your first one you want a minimum of 50lb braid. 65 is a better option. Whether it's for bass fishing or something else I would never recommend braid under 50lbs on a baitcaster especially if it's your first baitcaster.
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>>2550393
So am I? Like what difference does that make? Lol
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>>2550665
how heavy are you setting the drag that this is an issue? I have baitcasters with 15lb braid on them.
>>2550629
To answer your question, my fellow Americans fish super heavy as a rule.
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>>2550642
>>2550647
>>2550665
I thought I was being trolled at first because I never used a baitcaster, until I looked it up
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>>2550671
start light move up. I use my baitcaster for a lot of flipping/pitching, topwater, frogging, etc. But learning to baitcast with 30lb braid is a disaster waiting to happen. And even 40lb does dig into the spool. I would recommend a minimum of 50, can get away with 12-17 fluoro but that would generally be different purpose
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>>2550437
I just saw that, yeah. North county reporting in. Started tying my own bucktails to save money on plastics
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>>2550676
It's a balance of castability, lure size and your own skill at avoiding overruns. I don't fish much freshwater so I can't speak to frogging, but casting a 1/4-3/8oz jighead with a 3" plastic in our bays on 50lb braid would kill your casting distance. I do use 50lb on my calico setup in the kelp, but that is more like a 1/2-1.5oz jighead and a 5-9" plastic and you have to worry about horsing stuff out of the kelp.
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lol @ people saying thin diameter line is a no no on a baitcaster. braid is very rough, especially 4strand, so it's true for braid... but you can run 10lb mono or flouro with no problem since it's slick. just learn how to cast. buy some 10lb yo-zuri hybrid line if you want cheap. even if you have 60lb braid and you can't cast for shit, you're getting a birds nest that will dig into itself and knot up so bad you will have to spend hours cutting it off the spool.
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>>2550804
10 lb yozuri line has diameter ofnm like 40-50 lb braid. The diameter argument still apply here
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The parameter that most affects casting distance is mass/length of line (i.e. grams/meter). Diameter correlates to rigidity of the line and how it feeds off of the spool which can affect backlashes. In terms of rigidity braid<mono<fluoro at a given diameter.
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>>2550807
yeah, but you can run thinner. i just said 10lb due to line strength. I have 6lb hybrid on a baitcaster.
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>>2550668
Our rules are different
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>>2550880
They aren't though? I mean if you want to kill birds illegally that's your call, but they are protected.
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Post benchmades
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Saw another redfin pickerel in the pond today
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>>2550406
Im not >>2550429
I hunt parrots that destroy my trees and plantations and one day I was mad because wanted to go fishing but they were at it again. Killing them is forbidden so I shot them, collected their cadavers in my bag to dump them later but had other stuff to do so I forgot. Later I noticed all this that when I arrived to the fishing place and opened and used their guts and flesh as bait. That was the perfect bait because I was fishing congers and didn't need to catch smaller fishes first because I already had my baits. That was like the 5th time I use birds to fish because when I go fishing I use to carry a slingshot or a rifle and sometimes I kill birds and eat them right there.
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>>2550939
where the fuck do you live, the amazon?
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>>2550950
Westchester
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Need some quick advice, is a c5000 Shimano spinner way too big for bass?
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>>2551065
Yea. Go for 2500-3000 for bass at most
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>>2551065
> too big
no such thing, but you don't need something that big. shimanos are small, so a 2500 or 3000 is a "normal" bass reel.
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Need some more advice - whats the best telescopic/4 piece to go for?
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went to fish for sea trout around copenhagen coast today
2 hours later my fingers hurt from cold and i caught nothing but seaweed
fuck my life i want a god damn trout
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>>2551099
How bad do you want one? Could always dive in after them
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The 50lb braid for baitcaster thing is an American boomer myth.
When I couldn’t cast, I couldn’t cast, I got horrible backlashes even with heavy mono.

If you know how to cast, buy a half decent reel, and don’t try to fling weightless plastics into the wind, you’ll be fine with whatever.
No one in the competitive scene for bass here in Australia is doing that retarded over lbing shit.
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>>2551123
facts that shit is cringe
also our bass are actually cool

been catching?
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>>2551123
>The 50lb braid for baitcaster thing is an American boomer myth.
It's just plain retarded, is what it is. Braid is substantially easier to untangle (in my experience, anyway), but mono is less likely to bird's nest in the first place. I forget the reason(s), probably something about memory actually acting in your favor when unspooling in a straight line.

In general, you should use the lightest test line/leader/tippet you think you can get away with. Over-testing, which I did a lot of myself years ago, is a sign of being a clueless retard who isn't sure what he's doing.
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>>2551112
if i dive in can i fuck them?
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>>2551125
Aussies and being insecure, a classic combo. Always need something to brag about.
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>>2551146
typical American, always need something to cry about.
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>>2551152
The crying aussies do trying to insist they have unique culture can be heard around the world.
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>>2551170
why are you so emotional
it was a comment about a fish
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The guy who posted his first baitcaster WANTED to spool it with BRAID. Other recommendations (mono, fluoro, hybrid) are irrelevant as he asked about braid. For a beginner, thicker line is easier to use and learn to cast with. Thin line DOES dig into the spool and is easier to birdsnest and is more difficult to cast with (as a beginner). 50lb is generally a perfect all purpose line for a baitcaster as it allows you to do just about everything, flipping/pitching, punching, topwater, anything else with a fluoro leader. I would strongly recommend the anon start with 50lb braid unless he decides to try something else to learn with, and in that case i'd recommend something around 15lb fluoro, nothing less than 12 nothing more than 20 (20 is pushing it pretty far). For a single multi purpose baitcaster with braid 50lb is the perfect #. For some "give" when fishing different methods a fluoro or mono leader.
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>>2551178
>50lb braid
this will be handy if he hooks a megalodon too
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I've used down to 8lb braid, and when you get down to finer diameters the line is so limp that it's much more likely dig into the spool and fail to feed out of the line guide properly and birdsnest itself. If youre throwing med-heavy/heavy lures line diameter shouldn't affect casting distance that much and if you need more a finesse presentation you can always select an appropriate leader.
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>>2551197
I meant to say that with heavier lures, thicker diameters won't affect casting distance quite as much
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https://outdoorpros.ca/product/sage-foundation-kit/
Should i do it?
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>>2551205
If that's what you want then why not? I'm assuming that you are not poor. You can obviously get a decent rod and line for less money.
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>>2551131
>>2551123
I still find it ironic that people who throw shade at the pro bass fishing world will, in the same breath, demonstrate they have absolutely 0 knowledge on even the most basics of fishing.
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>>2550818
Yea, but we are on the topic of a beginner with baitcaster. He wouldn't be learning with 8 lb fluoro/mono so 40/50 lb braid is reasonable starting point, which can be roughly 10-14 lb mono in diameter
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>>2551241
I question whether people making comments even fish and baitcaster at all. I personally run 40 lb braids on all of my baitcaster and use fluoro leader base on my need. Baitcaster casting distance is not as heavily affected by line diameter as much as spinning reel casting. Casting distance is a meme because a difference in line diameter is responsible to only a few extra ft at most, which doesn't matter most of the time for fishing. The rod length weight/length and lure weight affect cast distance much more. Also, it's a pain in the ass to spool a low lb braid because you need a lot of braid to fill the spool.
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boomers don't even use braid unless they're pro bass fishermen. every boomer I know insists on using what they've always used, which is 10-15lb mono. either way, pro bass fishing is gay as fuck because it's all a scam to sell products, and people who spend 365 days a year catching the same 5lb bass over and over again on average are low iq. the whole appeal to fishing is catching new species, and pbs of each. I know boomers who refuse to fish for anything but bass, and they end up killing a 1/4 of the fish they catch by gut hooking them or putting them in livewells.
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>>2550950
the Patagonia, I live 100mts from the sea and 1km to the nearest river where everyone go for the chinooks, a person I know catched this not long ago, there are so many salmons that even the most useless human being can catch one
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>>2551173
I thought Australians were good at banter
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>>2549877
is the color of her reel just accidentally the same color as her bottoms?
also
>nurse judy looks like that?!
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>>2551317
>Baitcaster casting distance is not as heavily affected by line diameter as much as spinning reel casting
Meh it's all a balance and depends what you're throwing. Once you get to 3/4oz or so it doesn't make much difference like you said, but I have noticed a big difference when I'm throwing 1/4-1/2oz jigheads. And that doesn't even touch on the topic of increased sensitivity and spool capacity, which I know aren't huge factors for lmb fishing, but they matter in bays and off jettys.
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>>2551376
fuck. carla. judy reyes
whatever.
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Using heavy braid on casting rods has a lot to do with vegetation and cover from what I understood. When I’m fishing water with very little cover I use straight mono, fluoro or copoly. If I’m fishing a pond that has a lot of reeds and grasses I tend to favor using braid with a leader. The braid seemingly helps cut through all the junk
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>>2551420
True. I fish salt water so I don't fish sub 1/2 that much and I typically use spinning set up for lure that light.
>>2551439
Yea, it's nice to be able to rip the lure out of of veggie if you get snagged. Even if you using a leader, you will break off at the leader and only lose a bit of leader line. Also, if you hook up, you power the fish out of structure instead of letting run in and wrap you up. That said, not many people have multiple set up for every situation and it's hard to predict whether the place you fish will have things that can snag you up. More often that not, you fish near any structure so it's better to be safe.
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>>2550058
Get up early
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Florida anon again
>Everyone online says don't eat speckled swimming crab
>They say it doesn't taste good & it doesn't have a lot of meat
>Ignore internet, acquire crab
This has to be some of the SWEETEST crab meat I have ever had. I knew something was up when I saw Publix selling this stuff for $10 a can. Absolutely mental that people don't eat these. I boiled one in a put for 10 minutes with some old bay & it's one of my new favorite foods. I can see why Pompano & Permit eat them almost exclusively.
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>>2551360
boomers have long moved on to powerpro. the old guy who is mono only is some silent generation shit lol.
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>>2551528
srsly, these anons stuck in the 90's lmao, boomers are going to be using two things
>Sunline Sniper FC
>"My FavOriTe ProS SwEAr By IT!!!!"
>PowerPro
And guess what, fatty mcboom boom is correct, those are the only two lines you need, SON!
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“I pay for my line just like you because its what I use and believe in, I pay for my deps just like you only a (little cheeper) but I do get check from deps ha,ha, well earned, I pay for my rods just like you, I pay for my reels just like you and everything else just like you no discounts. I AM OWNED BY NO BUDDY! I fish hard, don't care about prices only catching big bass. Once i find something that works and it’s proven to me I don't run to the next latest and greatest lol been there done that, "I look into the future". I don't listen to guys that say I use this or that, I dream it, I live it, I breath it, I understand it and I Do it. I've done my homework to share for all to see on video! I thank each and every one of you that "Do care" because i put thousands and thousands and thousands of hours swimbaiting on the water to put something proven and documented out there with No BULL to give you that edge or short cut (via internet) to catch the biggest bass of your life or get you in the right direction, as for the Talkers, me or the ones that listen will just catch the fish you can't get to bite.”
-swimbait24/7
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>>2550437
>hey guys, here is the my 20th report this month about catching dink opaleye from the rocks
>omg the lounge sucks!!!! fucking boomers reeeee
>guys who post
reports then delete them the next day
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>>2551549
>Butch boomer posting to make swimbaits look lame in hopes to stop it's accelerated popularity
Guy is a fucking treasure, I swear.
>>2550437
Mike Long sends his regards.
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>>2550437
It's been fucking days. Does nobody have Kellen's phone number? Someone blast this dude.
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ok anons, I will be down on the southern Georgia coast for about 6 months starting around April/May. I will have my car when I am there for work. Where should I hit up to fish? Any specific species? I think going after peacock bass would be great down in Florida. I grew up PNW so I fished a ton of trout but salt water is new (outside of steelhead and salmon).
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>good friend (female) gets married in Hawaii big island last month
>invited and go
>get skunked my first two days fishing
>don't get laid after wedding because the chick who started to diddle me was so drunk she passed out in my kia rental driving to the beach to fugg
>get skunked my last day there
well at least I saw magma and had a girl (female) touch me pp
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> You find a nice spot to fish, nobody else is there.
> You're swapping tackle.
> pic rel appears out of nowhere silently and starts creeping towards you.
> casts right where you're fishing
why are they like this?
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>>2551612
I bend over and show them my stink eye
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>>2549877
hey out rate this rod/reel combo i'm thinking about. 5' "light" 4-10lb. pic shows 3 pieces but it's actually 2. i'd like to bike down this mile long hill i live on and do trout fishing on the weekends this spring/summer. also taking guides on trout fishing.
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For some reason when I bottom fish with bait for catfish, I only catch small to medium blue cats. But every time I catch a giant blue or flathead catfish it's on small bass lures and spoons. This defies logic. Am I doing something wrong? I usually set it up like a carolina rig, sometimes I make it fancy with a bobber to suspend it but not much else. This is the Potomac River, btw.
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>>2551616
depends on the price. if you're paying msrp hard no. there are better combos you can get for like $10 more. plus, 5ft might sound good for packing, but it's ridiculously small when you're trying to bank fish. at least get a 6ft 2 piece. the only advantage an ugly stik has is the fiberglass tip allows you to do things you're not supposed to do with a rod(high sticking) without breaking, otherwise it's overpriced. most people get them as starter rods because they're paranoid about rods breaking(which is hard to do if you use common sense and don't throw your shit down.)
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>>2551628
I don't know much about blue catfish, but flatheads primarily feed on other fish so it makes sense you wouldn't catch them on bait sitting on the bottom
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>>2551616
Get this in the 5ft6 Light model at Walmart
> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Shakespeare-Micro-Series-Spinning-Fishing-Rod/17474394

Or get this from Bass Pro/Cabelas
> https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/bass-pro-shops-crappie-maxx-pro-series-crappie-rod-101283900

model CMP56L

pair either with a Shimano FX1000FC or FX2000FC reel ($20)
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>>2550068
Piers are retard magnets and the tri-county area is overcrowded with foreign/yankee garbage.
If you're fishing there because you don't have a license you can get a saltwater shoreline for free if you're a resident. Then drive north to Stuart/Ft. Pierce/Sebastian and hit up the bridges or beaches. There are plenty of spots all along Federal and Dixie where you can just park on the side of the road and walk over to fish the river. Ask locals or just check out google maps.
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>>2551612
I’m a swimbait bass angler who’s shore locked still. This happens all the time. All the time. I just tie on my 9.5 ounce swimbait and chuck it as close as I can to their boat and they quickly get away. I hate that shit. I will always hold my promise that when I finally get a kayak / boat, I’ll give full respect to shore anglers and just pass them.
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>>2551656
I fish out of my jon boat/canoe/kayak just as much as I bank fish and they still do it.
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>>2551066
>>2551069
Thanks, I managed to find a Stella fk c3000 after driving to the next tackle shop, was asking for urgent advice cause the one I was at only had a bigger reel at a discount
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>>2551634
thanks appreciate the info!

>>2551616
thanks i'll check it out. i was actually thinking about shimano reel instead of a combo because i bike and i like my shimano gearset.
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>>2551647
>>2551692
oops that was meant to be @you
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>>2551628
I don’t target catfish myself but I’ve caught decent size blues (3-6lbs) on panther martins.
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>>2551065
i prefer daiwa 2000 size reels but i do mostly finesse fishing
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>>2551657
Yup when I'm in my kayak , motorboat bros are guaranteed to floor it towards you and fish 50 feet down the bank spooking every fish in the cove, not catch anything for 2 minutes because they spooked everything, and the floor it across the lake to harass someone else.
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>>2551799
>>2551628
smaller blues like spinners for some reason. usually people say it's channel cats that hit lures, but I've only seen blues in person.
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>>2551628
I don’t know much about cats but i do know they’re predators. Bigger ones are probably the apex predators of their respective waterways which would make sense as to why they hit moving lures
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Yellowtail at the islands 3 days in a row, it's go time boys.
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>>/out/2542954
I ended up going with the 13 fishing fate quest because it was 4 pieces and fit my autistic lure sizes.

Now I need help to find this lure or something similar. Does anyone know where I can buy the moresilda or something lose to it without losing all of my money? It caught me many trouts in august when nothing else. Thing is I only had one and I am scared of losing it.
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>>2551951
>>2542954
im not retarded
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>>2551829
For real. I never knew why my dad always drove his boat so "slow" until I fished with a buddy and watched him spook fish out of 4 holes in a row
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>>2551799
3-6lbs is a baby blue cat
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>>2551612
>>2551656
>>2551657
>>2551829
Motorboating posers spook the fish and cast where you're fishing because they're selfish, impatient, entitled idiots who have no idea how fish behave, how to read structure, how to suss out which portion of the water column to target, etc. They have no idea what they're doing, just fling their plastic bullshit around hoping for the best.

Mind you, I don't like stocked-water bass "anglers" at all. In my view, all of you are like a bunch of little fags playing Pokemon cards that I want to give swirlies to, stuff into lockers, etc. My contempt for you is so sharp that it would make an excellent cheese, if it were physical. Upon reflection, I suppose it's because the "culture" of American and even Japanese bass fishing becomes more repugnant to me with each passing year. Those fucking Tojos on their gay little islands are doing retarded shit like throwing clusters of nineteen fucking swimbaits at once to simulate schools.

Also, bass faggots litter up waterways and fish stomachs with plastic bullshit like billions of Ned rigs and miles of cut fishing line, even if they don't mean to. Sometimes you have to cut the line and can't retrieve it, but you and I both know that fat/lazy faggots account for 90% of it.

That being said, motorboating poser fucktards are twice as contemptible as the rest of you, so I guess you're all right.
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>>2552067
Nice fish. I know they get to the triple digits in large bodies of water. I usually go for panfish on ultra light gear. Even at the size I’ve ran into those guys bend hooks, twist line, and run straight down into cover. I’m assuming you caught that fat cat with live bait?
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>>2551612
I would never do that none of my friends would But there are dick shore anglers. I know for a fact that there are dick boating anglers

You will never be able to Avoid asshols
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>>2552094
>>2551656
>>2551657
>>2551829
I love to take my friends out on my bass boat and I would love to take you all out on it. I will change your minds
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>>2552115
Here where I live, it's a common superstition that your biggest fish will be caught from shore. All the trophy striper fishermen I'm friends with, their insanely big PB's (30's and 40's) were from shore. It's....weird to say the least.
>>2552094
>throwing clusters of nineteen fucking swimbaits at once to simulate schools
Extremely based.
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>>2552118
my biggest striper was caught on shore so it might be true
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I'd like to buy a small boat which is mostly for 1 person but can hold 2. I have no clue what to look for though, I feel like an inflatable would be the easiest option. Any pointers to give? Please help meeeeee
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>>2551613
Based anus displayer, a true show of dominance.
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>>2552140
Where are you and what type of waters? It matters a lot.
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>>2552145
Right, I l>be in SWfrance, it will be mostly for large open spaces in rivers and once in a while on a lake. Also my budget is about 1k
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>>2552147
Honestly a kayak is the "easiest." Most places they don't require the same level of legalities as boats, you can carry them on any vehicle, and by person when you get where you're going. no real risk of easily damaging it, and no real maintenance other than proper storage and transport. inflatables are very popular in europe I've seen, but a lot of that has to do with the fact that people like the initial idea of it being small when stored, which can quickly wear off because you have to inflate it and maintain it. plus, without a motor, it's gonna be slow and get annoying. I'd honestly get a tandem kayak if you have somewhere to store it.
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>>2552147
here is an example. I don't know what other brands are sold in France, but this is one that is known in the US.
> https://feelfreekayak.eu/recreational-kayaks/corona-109-150.html
> https://feelfreekayak.eu/fishing-kayaks/corona-angler-130-231.html
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>>2552154
Thanks!
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>>2552140
John boat then modify it to your heart's desire
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>>2550642
The heavier lb test comes in handy when winching them out of heavy cover.
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>>2552262
then you need a trailer, motor or at least a trolling motor, and a battery. much more money in the long run.
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>>2549877
Did some fishing in St Petersburg Florida got this nice sheepshead for a snack.
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As a black man this not cool, smdh,
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>>2552470
there is a specific fish here that all the old fellas call niggers.
but I get weird looks if I do it...
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>>2552470
>steals your bait
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Lesson learned bros, anytime you are vacationing, ALWAYS bring a fishing rod. Especially true for fly fishing because the rod is super compact when broken down and the tackle takes up no space in comparison to the shitload of clothes your old lady packs. Just went out to Disney World because my wife has wanted to go for the past couple years (COVID screwed our original plans) and thought I wouldn't have time to go fishing or find somewhere to go fish. We get to our resort and find it's surrounded by a ton of well stocked ponds just steps from our room. Water is super clean so you could stand at the shore and just watch all the bass swimming around the lily pads. I ended up renting a rod from Disney and of course it's horribly underspooled with super high test line so it can't cast for shit, and is equipped with a paddle tail swimbait that's texas rigged. Still caught one fish after 2 hours of casting a max of 25 yards but there was a lot of fun I missed out on by not having a fly rod with large top-water flies, poppers, and streamers. Pic related.
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>>2552547
I bring these everywhere i go. Whether on a plane or in my car.
https://daiwa.us/products/procyon-telescoping-travel-rod

https://www.piscifun.com/collections/tackle-bags/products/piscifun-waterproof-outdoor-tackle-bag
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>>2551364
That's a nice fish. What do salmons eat?

I've tried catching beach worms over the weekend. Saturday I went down with a few fish frames and just stood in the shallows holding my frames and getting excited every time I saw a red shell.
Sunday I had a bag of rotting stink and I thrashed it around the sand like a lunatic for a few hours.
Reckon third time will be the charm.
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>>2552440
Nice eating size. Guy I met down in Naples liked to take home the bigger ones cause their mouths reminded him of his ex wife. I spose some folks like it toothy.
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Could you live with a bent blank like this one? It's a $200 Daiwa Luvias rod and I love it to death but the fucking bent tip bothers me.
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>>2552595
aquatic insects, minnows, the eggs of their kin, most things meat based
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>>2552481
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>>2550437
mission bay reporting in! whats up?
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>>2552612
if it's bent perfectly forward and not off to an angle yeah. how does that even happen? you store it with the line tight or leaned up against the wall or something for a long time?
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>>2552470
Imagine if Jewish people were triggered like black people get when someone outside their race uses that word but the hood trash basically call each other that word all day even in jail and prison. You know people call the Golthia Grouper a Jew Fish.
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>>2552766

Came like that from the dealer.
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>>2552595
Third try was indeed the charm. Very easy to spot, absolute cunts to get hold of.
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Beginner here. I've always had a keenness for fishing, crabbing, and catching crawfish ever since I was a kid. Then my folks split and I went with mom to a more "urban" area. Did a bit of pole fishing for a cub scout badge but then my mom took me out of the scouts as "punishment".

Recently decided to give fishing the old college try again but I can sense it being a bit 'golf-like', in that there's a lot of distraction gear one doesn't really need but, doesn't hurt to have. For the most part, I've never even fought a fish but, that's changing now. I'm waiting for my co-worker who fishes competitively in local tourneys to meet me at this local spot that's kind of out of the way. Says there should be good chances of nabbing some Pompano or maybe some Whiting.

Cool thing about Jax is that there's so many secret spots that if you're able to break away from the weekend warriors by getting out early during the middle of the week you basically have the place to yourself. Really looking forward to getting to the point where I can go out on my own and catch with a better success rate than I had as a kid.
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>>2553000
>wasted trips
You will catch nothing and be happy
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Any suggestions for euro nymphing reels?
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>>2553010
Reels aren't critical for smaller fish but if you're going for salmon/steelhead you may want a more robust drag system in which case the Redington Behemoth is a solid choice. Perhaps one of the beefier entry/mid level reels.
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any good youtube channels for introductions to fly fishing? Everything from casting techniques, what to look for/where to cast towards and types of flies used and in what scenario?
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>>2553018
I have yet to see a good all around channel. Most will give lip service to all disciplines but then really on fish one way. There is three main ways to fly fish: dry flies, nymphs, and streamers. I would probably pick what interests you and then go from there.
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>>2553000
Good luck anon
>>2553010
Echo base, you literally don't need anything more. Unless you're after salmon or steelhead in which case step u p to a Redington behemoth
>>2553018
Orvis, they have entire Playlist of fly fishing and casting tutorials. That's where I learned.
>>2553045
Streamers are goat
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>>2553018
I got my first fly rod as a gift for Christmas in 2021, went out from Dec-Apr before deploying for 6 months to some shithole in the middle east, then got back in October and have had a lot more success even with cool weather (primarily targeting bass and bluegill) than I had prior to deploying due to how much youtube fly fishing videos I watched. I think the best educational channel is Mad River Outfitters. Orvis is decent as Skid mentioned. If you want decent channels to watch fishing when you can't go out, Trout Hunting NZ and Hardman Fishing Adventures are my favorite.
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>>2553018
>>2553045
>>2553055
>>2553058
Orvis online has a fly fishing university that is automatically detailed. Also anon, if you can find an Orvis sponsored guide or sign up for their fly fishing classes it is well worth the money. Invaluable insights and tips as well as helping you cast properly which makes it fun, and also how to read a river and water for fish.
Have fun, it's honestly one of my favorite things to do and some of the places ice hiked through to get to little streams are breathtaking
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>>2553058
Mad river and Hardman are good options, I also like huge flyfisherman
>>2553068
Classes are the fastest way to progress but nothing replaces taking time to practice casting on your own. Spend 2 hours casting 2 days a week for a year and you'll be off to a great start.
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>>2552595
parrots
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>>2552470
i told you pepsi was black
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>>2552958
Might supposed to look that way?
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>>2552612
My majorcraft rod does that too. Maybe it's a feature.
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>>2549877
AAj MUJHE IS CHINAAJ KI PESHAB PEENE SE MAT ROKO
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>>2552470
Does this only count as 3/5 of a fish?
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What’s the best reel for fishing in Wisconsin?
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>>2553179
Penn senator 12/0
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>>2553179
a spool of twine
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>>2552118
I actually never caught shit from my boat so I have it to a guy to rebuild some deck stairs.
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>>2552966
Were you trying to catch blood worms or just regular red wiggelers
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>>2552958
if it came like that and isn't supposed to look like that, obviously you return it and get what you paid for. I've bought rods on multiple occasions where an eye is slightly tweaked/bent and it annoys the fuck out of me. why would they ship out a rod like that? do they not look? sure it's an inconvenience to return something and wait for a replacement, but motherfuckers need to be held accountable.
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Catfish gang wya?
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>>2552470
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>>2553258
First beach worm I ever caught. To be honest, I didn't know beaches had worms a week ago. This one was real silvery, real fat and, pretty short. Am in Australia, do yanks get beach worms in California?
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>>2553349
Yea there are plenty of sand worms species. Some look kinda like the gulp sandworm lure
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anyone in central ontario know laws about wading up rivers? I'm going to buy the echo lift kit and want to start as soon as the water thaws/weather warms up. Recently I read online that some rivers pass through private property? I always thought "nobody owned the water" Also, FishOnLine doesn't show a distinction between crown/park land and privave property so not really sure.
Anyways these are the rivers i'm interested in starting at:
Mad River
Nottawasaga River
Boyne river
Big Head River (a little far)
Beaver River (a little far)
If you know any other spots in the vicinity of these rivers let me know, i'm not looking for your honey holes just really want to get into the sport. Also, as for as equipment goes, besides a rod/reel kit what are some decent waders to look at? Should I look for one's with the shoe build in or buy shoes/pants separate? Besides some flies, net, and line clippers anything else I need to get started? This is a new world for me
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>>2553320
Invasive species
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>>2553320
>>2553419
Parasite amongst the host fish populations in the waterways they infiltrate
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>>2553320
they control the banks of the river
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>>2549877
butterface, shame
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>>2553002
Managed to pull a couple bluefish and two cats. Wasn't what we were aiming for but at least it was something. Now I just gotta figure out how to grab the mfs correctly.
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>>2553469
>how to grab the mfs correctly.
catfish?
they're not too hard with practice, put your palm on their tummy and and your thumb under the one pectoral fin and the other pectoral fin between your index finger and thumb with the dorsal pointing away from you.
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>>2553508
>between your index finger and thumb
index finger and driving finger*
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What color soft plastics do you anons recommend throwing from shore in the Mendocino area. I usually throw a weedless Texas rig with a 1oz sinker and 3.5" to 4" paddle tail keitech style swimbaits, im just looking for color recommendations for targeting Lingcod and Cabezon. Not sure what the water is like and what the fish are going for after the recent storms but I know this Saturday will have overcast weather, not much wind, and 4ft swells.
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>>2553523
Never can go wrong with white but dark brown/red brown might work well as well
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>>2553403
"Navigable water" counts as crown land except where specifically deeded as private. Very complex issue but generally yes if you -could- paddle it then it's yours to walk also.
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>>2553523
Plastics are for rubes and children. Invest in hard baits and bucktails. They'll you last longer.
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>>2549895
>>2549898
First gear for what? The fuck you trying to catch?
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>>2553523
Try to use weighted jig head instead of Carolina rig. You'll probably cast better and get stuck on structure less. You can use weed less jig head (jig head with weed guard) if you worry about hanging up on grass or kelp
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>>2553625
There are circumstances where you would not be able to catch a fish. Had you not been using the soft plastic

Also to my knowledge most fish can s*** that out like Trout, bass, catfish.
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>>2553523
a light colour (i almost always go with white) and a dark (usually black/blue or straight up black) and two that mimic the bait fish or what they're feeding in the area. You don't ever really need more than 4 colours in soft plastics. For light/dark you can also choose with plastics with chartreuse
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>>2553749
white/pearl and white/pearl with a chartreuse tail is pretty universal
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After your first 9ft 5-6wt fly rod whats the next rod people usually buy? A 7? 4? Is it worth buying a 6 and following up with a 5?
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>>2553749
>>2553752
honestly i'm a big fan of bone, starting to replace a lot of white baits (hard and soft) with bone (wherever possible)
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>>2553664
>There are circumstances where you would not be able to catch a fish. Had you not been using the soft plastic
prove it
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>>2553769
Soft swimbait like a hudd can be crept along the bottom, or thrown in to cover if you’ve got it weedless. I wouldn’t do that with a hard body swimbait
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>>2553839
Yes, the original post was about shore fishing for Ling cod, which is really usually mean fishing in really structure heavy place. I wouldn't throw any of my hard bait there. Bucktail can work, but bucktail is usually fished with a soft bait trailer anyway
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>>2552595
>What do salmons eat?
eggs of other salmons, rats, little shrimps of those you buy on supermarkets, worms, meat,etc. and obviously you can catch them with lures
you can fish those nigs with everything, I recommend eggs even where I live they are forbidden
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>>2553759
Depends on what you're after, generally you'd go up or down two line weights to benefit the most from the extra rod. If you want lighter presentations then a 4wt will outperform the 5wt yet you still have your 6 to tackle species the 4wt wouldn't have the backbone for.
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>>2553759
What
>>2553881
Said, it's situational. What do you want to do that your 6 weight doesn't?
If you want a lighter rod for smaller water you'd want a fiberglass 2 or 3 weight. If you want to throw streamers fir bass I target carp, or look at saltwater, get an 8 weight. Chasing esox with 12 inch flies? 10, 11, or 12 weight. Where do you feel your 6 weight isn't performing? Once we know that we can tell you what rod to get.
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When I'm alone I imagine skid fly fishing shirtless
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sdfish really is gone forever, san diego bros
now what?
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>>2553664
Not sure about trout, but the panfish ,catfish and chubs I have in a large aquarium will eat the same nightcrawler 3 or 4 times. They will be so full they spit it back up, then try to eat it again.

The green sunfish will macerate crayfish, then spit them up in bits for a second go-round.

The catfish will eat the gravel to get the pellets, then spit up the gravel.

So I can't see a fish having a plastic bait stuck in it unless it was hooked in there.
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When I'm alone I imagine Skid holding my rod while I cast
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I always find fishing lures just hanging from trees I don't know how you would lose a fishing lures like that. obviously I've cast lures in trees but I've always managed to get them back. it's not even like a couple lures in the past 2 years I've probably found $300 worth of fishing lures. Half of them I just have to troll over and grab with my hand Because they're literally with in arms reach. Who is doing this with They're tackl?
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>>2554069
What happened?
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is medium fast too much for a topwater rod or will i rip apart the mouth of pike/bass? Should I look into moderate action?
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>>2554288
medium-heavy fast*
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>>2551951
If you're in Canada by any chance theres a French site called Sporteque that stocks them. How good are they as a casting spoon?
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>>2553839
idk man zonker jigs can do the same thing and last longer
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>>2554195
people are either bank fishing and can't get to it, or even boat boomers who are too lazy to try or don't want to scratch their boat. you can also get lots of lures by going to a popular lake when the water level is low. all the logs people get snagged on are exposed and look like christmas trees with ornaments. unfortunately, 90% of the snags are soft plastics, but occasionally you will find a Rapala or something.
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>>2554288
>>2554290
it really depends on the techniques/lures you plan to use most often over anything else. most bass rods are fast action, and it's pretty hard to rip the mouth on a bass unless it's really small. mono line will help absorb shock also. with that said, I love my moderate-fast rod more than any rod I've ever had. rarely ever do fish come off during the fight even if I'm not actively trying to keep them in the right direction.
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>>2554031
>>2554177
<3
>>2554288
youll be fine
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>>2554195
i bank fish with light line, losing shit is just part of it
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>>2554196
it’s been down for a couple weeks
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>>2554497
What has
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>>2554497
Does anyone know why?
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>>2553403
For your gear question and take it with a grain of salt since I just started fly fishing a little over a year ago, get waders and get wading boots to put on top. I got a size larger of wading boots than the size of shoe I normally wear and it works fine but that might depend on the manufacturer, my boots were from Orvis. US sizes to be clear since I don't know if it's different for our hat. If you really want to be safe, buy waders then bring the waders to the place you want to get wading boots from and try both on. If you don't have somewhere you can do that, order from somewhere that allows returns.
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>>2554541
website is down
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> ... and the WINNER of the bass tournament IS... that guy holding two dinks far away from his body and up close to the camera!... what's that? the fish are now dead? OH WELL! there's more dinks where those came from!
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That's it
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>>2554746
Where did you catch that? It looks like one of the European strains of brown trout that I've seen
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Welp mom found the trout sock, it’s over guys.
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I've only used cheap market fishing rods, think 30 bucks. Would 197g Okuma Azaki with a Shimano Vengenace CX be something that feels like an ugprade? I like to catch whatever small freshwater fish there lurk in our small lake. Pike and perch mostly.
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>>2554329
Damn they have 2/3oz i might try it. I had the 10g ones so about 3/8th of an oz. I'll get one and try thanks anon. They can be cast as far as a kastmaster and they have very good action. I did straight retrieve with a gold red one and it's the only lure than got me any bites on a 5 day fishing trip near lac saint-jean. They might be a little too big in 2/3oz for the brooks I was fishing, but i'll try them in longueuil in the saint-laurent where there are big browns apparently
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>>2554774
No. You won't likely feel an upgrade going for the same price range
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>>2554774
depends. they are carbon blend blanks so probably. isn't the Altera the same rod blank but with a better reel seat? That reel seat on the Altera looks better in terms of feel and comfort.
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>>2554717
>>2554497
>>2554069
Anon the way you write is so fucking annoying.
You have the autistic trait of not being able to explain anything. you string people along for the eventual nothing Burger. You've had 3 chances to explain yourself And the best you can do is Say SD fishing has been down for a couple weeks.... Context my guy???
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I FUCKING LOVE WHEN THE GOVERNMENT DUMPS HUNDREDS OF INBRED EXOTIC FISH INTO MY LOCAL BODIES OF WATER
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>>2554881
>EXOTIC
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>>2554852
websites been down for weeks not sure why
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>>2554891
AN EXOTIC SPECIES IS A SPECIES LIVING OUTSIDE ITS NATIVE DISTRIBUTIONAL RANGE, WHICH HAS ARRIVED THERE BY HUMAN ACTIVITY, DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY, AND EITHER DELIBERATELY OR ACCIDENTALLY.
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>>2554904
WHY ARE YOU YELLING, CAPS LOCK IS NOT CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL YOU KNOW
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>>2554904
It's a trout it can't do anything but get eaten
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>>2554744
>the fish are now dead
Un likely
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>>2554907
SHUT UP YES IT IS
>>2554941
'ONLY' 1/3 OF TOURNAMENT BASS DIE
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Just so everyone knows, fly fishing poppers will catch fish while stationary. Broke off a popper in a hookset today, fish spit it out a minute later, and while the popper was sitting in the pond for 10 minutes it got drug underwater by fish on multiple occasions with no movement except for what the wind gave it. I put on another popper and successfully retrieved what I thought would be lost, which was a really good accuracy practice. Lesson learned for poppers is that they don't require constant action, probably an occasional pop to draw attention then wait 1-2 minutes.
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>>2554947
I'm sorry to tell you this but all bass die
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Man I lost/forgot something again while drubk fishing, second time in a row.
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Just created a wishlist for gear that I'd like to get within the next year. Admittedly, I'm probably overspending on the casting rods by about 100$ each minum. And funnily enough the daiwa gear is actually going to be used for catfishing, but I think at their power ratings and functions they will do just fine when targeting flatheads that fight very similar to musky and large pike which is sort of what the 8' xheavies are designed for (that or medium swimbaits fished very deep).

The st croix casting rods are what I'm most hyped to buy. I've always fished spinning/open faced gear with jigs and plastics (still don't think you can beat finesse and sensitivity fishing), but I really need some versatile high-powered, low sensitivity gear for top water and small to medium sized swim baits or buzzbaits. Or even just large/heavy jigs. And the two rods I have picked are sort of a pair in terms of versatility, with their names being the workhorse (7'3") and the warhorse (7'5"). Now baitcasting reels are a grey area for me, and I went with what I see is a very reliable reel, the curado, with the median gear ratio. I know the ratios are more important with baitcasters, but I figured since each rod will play two roles each that the median ratio was best since it'll sacrifice idealism for balanced use.

As for the 7'3" ML, I just need something that'll let me sling 3/8 neds (plastic included in the weight) farther with just a bit extra sensitivity. Plus it'll let me finally rig my other ML up for dropshotting so I can finally start fishing that technique as I've wanted to for a while now.

Just gotta figure which ones to get first!
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Me replying to myself here, >>2554986:

If anyone has any questions as far as spinning gear and finesse techniques involving them for large and smallmouth bass, I've got a ton of knowledge and insight that I'll happily share. I'm better with largemouth bass info when it comes to lakes whereas im better with smallmouth info when it comes to rivers and streams. And I specified finesse gear because active gear such as spinners, cranks, swimbaits, and topwaters are typically much more either general based on location or very specific based on season as well as location and environment.
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>>2554986
Hmm, is there a reason you would pick a flueger patriarch over a shimano vanford at that price point? Nothing against flueger but I just usually hear that flueger specialize more in being budget friendly rather than mid-high reels at that price point.
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>>2554990
Multiple reasons.

I'll get the vanity reason out of the way: the vaniford is a black/steel grey reel with red accents and the legend tournaments are a deep blue, white, and gold rods. I mean, it would be fine functionally but it'd be pretty darn ugly to look at.

Functionally though, the patriarch is actually a very reliable reel that at its price point is a very real competitor to the tatulas or vanifords. In some aspects, it is slightly cheaper produced, but that's intentional to save weight. It's why the 2500 patriarch is .3oz lighter than the vaniford. Not a bunch, but with the legend tournaments cutting back on their weight in the new 2022s too (a bit uglier, but lighter is nice), it makes for a very very light combo at both its price point and length (something like 10.5oz without line). And even though there are the pieces made cheaper, they aren't integral to the feels function and pose less of a threat for it to fail or break.

If there was ever a time I'd recommend a reel at the 200$ price point that isn't daiwa or shimano, it'd be the patriarch. Especially with their new redesign in production with the cork handle.
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>>2554998
Wow, autocorrect killing me on the vanford, not vanifords. Idek how it would have vaniford in its banks, that's weird, I don't even think it's a word
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I dropped my rod in the lake again. That's the 4th one this month.
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>>2555031
You should probably stop doing that
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>found out that americans hate carps
>they kill them cruelly
why do you hate them?
they are great fish with a very good fight with a light rod
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>>2555049
>immigrants and businessmen both bring carp to America for aquaculture purposes in 1880's
>carp meat is fairly expensive and very popular at first
>carp get out of ponds and start to breed a lot in the wild
>carp are now everywhere so the price plummets
>carp is now poor man's food
>at the same time industry and agriculture is polluting the shit out of the water
>people notice that a lot of native fish have died but the carp are having a great time rolling around in the filth
>eww
>people start to associate carp with poor water quality
>negative view of carp persists for basically forever
More Americans have started getting into carp fishing recently, but yeah a lot of people still hate them. Hell a lot of Americans hate anything that's not a "sportfish" even if it's native, I've seen suckers riddled with arrows left on the riverbank and boomers break the jaws of gar they catch.
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>>2555049
>>2555056
Also common carp are seen as invasive by a lot of people even though they've naturalized pretty much everywhere in the US, unlike in Australia where they're actually fucking over native ecosystems.
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>>2555056
Only the polish eat carp here.
It's a sport fish for us, they were imported from.

And yes they can taste money, the polish have a tradition of keeping a carp in the bathtub in the weeks until christmas so they can lessen the muddy taste by having it in clean water and feeding it fish food.

Still can be nice to eat, but will never be like a nice bit of trout or zander that you can just cook with a bit of salt and enjoy.
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Who here also reps KastKing?
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>>2555093
Their aggressive astroturfing turns me off from the products, just like googan squad shits
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>>2555093
I have had a kastking casting reel, it was like there was some resistence inside every half turn which made it shit at casting because there was also resistence when unspooling the line.
Then I had a kastking centurion spinning reel. The line got tangles inside the spool and trying to untangle and remove the line from inside the spool the drag clicker inside the spool broke(though that might be my fault dunno)
I also have a kastking telescopic casting rod which I have barely used so I can't tell.
Overall I won't be buying anything kastking again or ali/wish fishing gear in general.
And I also have some braid line from kastking on another reel which is alright.
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>>2555094
>>2555095
The Fiberglass Infused nylon frame & side cover is lightweight yet powerful, for maximum durability. Its internal mechanics are specifically designed to reduce friction and increase the distance of the cast. This reel with the compact design is sized and designed to fit comfortably in your hand
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>>2554972
poppers are dry flies
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>>2555108
>>2554972
So do these poppers also work for trout or is it more of a bass thing?
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>>2555056
Carp live a long time so the meat of the big ones isn't great for eating due to bioaccumulation of toxins, even though they mainly eat lower trophic level foods. The young carp <2lb are probably good eating if from cleanish water.
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>>2555122
look into "mousing"
basically too water flies for big trout
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>>2555093
i use them and piscifun for gear when i'm fishing during my lunch break
works fine
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>>2555093
I have a zephyr baicaster. It's decent for what it is. Pic rel caught on it.
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>>2555150
Guess you've never caught anything on it
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>>2555150
>pic
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>had to get a trailer hook installed
>1500€
>fishing season starts in 3 weeks
>no money to buy lures
Post the one killer lure for perch with the one killer color you don't want people to find out
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>>2555172
yeah my favorite lure for perch is the fuck lure in the off colour
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>>2555175
rude!
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>>2555049
idk understand the “trash fish” mentality. Every now and again I’ll land a tilapia, carp or pleco on accident and I’m excited to pull up a different fish than I was targeting.
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>>2555219
bass fisherman/boomer entitlement imo, some even have the gall to try and call walleye trash fish because they keep getting in the way of their bass targeting
i have a personal vendetta against them and try to harvest every bass I catch as a result, in hopes that walleye/pike get more of a foothold in my local lakes
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>>2555219
Trash fish mainly just comes from people who eat their fish and fish under invasive categorys. carpe and pleco aren't good eating fish. Tilapia are delicious But they're very invasive and that's why they're disliked. Fallfish are native to where I live but they're a trash fish because they taste like bad cheese
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>>2555225
Don quixote
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>>2555225
bass are trash fish. they are everywhere and so plentiful that 75% of them are stunted. bass boomers can pull in their 2,374th 3lb largemouth and be like "HELL YEAH! THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!" it's honestly the lowest IQ branch of fishing. what's fun is accidentally catching a good sized largemouth when you're not even targeting them.
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>>2555233
yeah, when my brother showed me a wacky rig for the first time without a shred of irony it really cemented the idea that bass are fucking retarded and targeting them is completely pointless, because you could throw a literal stick on a hook and get good enough action to nail one
I just broadly target predator fish, walleye if anything, and if a bass bites I throw it in the livewell
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>>2555233
>>2555228
These bass boomers you talk about are literally less than 0.001% of fishermen. i love all fish Whether I'm fishing for striper musky or trout. I am glad that you bass genociders aren't tolerated in any circles but 4chan. You and the bass boomers are one in the same.
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>>2555236
every year, the state has to restock every nearby lake with millions of actual local fish, because they, particularly walleye, are so heavily pressured due to harvesting (and often extremely unsporting commerical harvesting by natives) causing annual population collapses, and largemouth/smallmouth bass are often happy to outcompete them in their native environment due to the comparable lack of pressure
pulling absolutely monstrous trophy smallmouth is relatively common and easy, because they grow HUGE due to essentially free reign of the fishery by late summer/autumn when most of the mature walleye have been cleared out on a disgustingly industrial scale and they've been left to grow unabated, killing off some of them is essential to maintaining ecological balance, and if I didn't do it, the DNR eventually would
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>>2555172
2 inch silver minnow soft plastic on a 3 gram jig head
If no luck then a senko
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>>2555238
to add to this the reason bass populations are never particularly threatened is because its a boomer-dominated lake too far from the city for anyone without nearby property, but large enough to attract fishing tourism; and those that own property or show up for opener and never again are consistently "throw back the fighter" types who thing bass taste terrible anyway
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>>2555236
Them praising carp while bashing bass when discussing American fishing makes me certain they're brainwashed by eastern culture or are easterners themselves. Carp have almost no natural predators, in the American grain belt in particular, once they reach 2ft long and utterly swarm whatever body of water they wriggle themselves into. They are detrimental to the establushed ecosystems. And when they're so densely populated that riding a boat can be a dangerous activity, that makes them a problem. It hardly has anything to do with simply thinking game fish are better, though I'd be lying if I said that wasn't a factor as well.
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>>2555271
There's a bit of contrarism as well. Carp is unpopular in NA so they just suddenly love if and shill it as awesome. Carp fishing is just really boring and I rather fish for anything else. In the end, carp is shit for eating, shit as a sport fish, and a fast growing invasive specie.
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>>2555236
you're delusional. I live right beside a lake and I see hundreds of them every weekend. I'm not a "bass genocidist," I'm just stating the truth. bass and catfish are the most popular "low IQ" "entry fish" there are. Doesn't mean everyone who fishes for them are like this, but an overwhelming percentage is for sure. The fact that you took offense probably means you only fish for bass. Every dink bass you pull in is missing half it's lip.
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>>2555278
Yeah just scout any body of water carp have invaded and throw put some corn a few hours in advance. Come back and you can catch 20 of them in the same spot. Even bluegill aren't that boring. And like you said, they don't taste good, many species have black meat, and they are just no good for the American ecosystem.
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The adjustable screw that secures the reel on my fly pole is stuck at the bottom. I have tried soaking it in water, running some cooking oil over it all to no avail. Anyone have some advice on what I can do to get it to turn again? Pic related
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>>2555320
Sounds like it may be cross threaded. Try loosening it till the threads are lined back up.
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>>2555301
>I live right beside a lake and I see hundreds of them every weekend
You're delusional Talk to these people you'll quickly learn that they love All fish They may target one fish species more than others but that's just because they like them
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>>2555228
>Tilapia are delicious
Eating tilapia is for Midwestern soccer moms that want to feel fancy.
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>>2555228
Tilapia is an alright tasting fish when baked and/or heavily seasoned or flavored. But it's honestly a garbage fish, literally, in terms of its farming. Walleye and crappie and have some of the best meats period for freshwater fish. Tuna or salmon are great elsewise. And bass is very good too in when its in the 2lb/18" min to 4lb/21" max.
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>>2555444
>>2555444
>>2555444
Honestly tuna is a massively over rated fish.

Great raw, but actually pretty meh when it comes to cooking it. Bonito, Mackerel and Yellow tail are all way more versatile and are from the same family.

And i'd take a nice flounder or turbot over them any day of the week.
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>>2555458
> great raw
That's the point. Tuna is one of the safest raw fish to consume and you can't really replicate the taste of raw tuna. Tuna is both a great sport fish and great eating fishes. Saltwater do have many great fishes for eating though.
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I'd assume that a lot of fish can vary greatly in taste, it really depends on the water they're in all those years. Living in water, it's obviously much easier to absorb toxins and other stuff. Just look at how different the color variation can be in the same species of fish when they're found in different types of water(mostly applie to freshwater fish.)
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>>2555458
I wouldn't say it's overrated, but you're right that it isn't very versatile. Like it can only really be grilled, seared or eaten raw, but it does those things really well.
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saltwater eating? For me it's Mahi Mahi
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>>2555498
Hard to go wrong
My favorite that I caught so far are california halibut, calico, and rock fishes.
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What's a good place to buy flies? Is there a place for "assortments" that include nymphs, streamers and dry flies in one set? New to the sport, rod outfit is in the mail, I mostly fish bass but with the fly set up want to start wading streams for brook/brown/rainbow.
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>>2555515
can't beat the five-finger discount from bass pro
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>anons bitching about bass fishing
>demonstrating they have 0 knowledge about fishing in general as they bitch, moan, and act arrogant about bass fishing
Every time lol.
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>>2555534
Most people don't realize that tournament angling increases the number of trophy sized bass and that introducing bass outside of their native range actually helps native fish populations. Not only that bass sashimi is some of the tastiest meat that money can't buy.
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>>2555500
Calicos are my jam, but imo the best eating inshore socal fish is white sea bass. Corbina is an underrated eating fish too.
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>>2555534
> when you catch the same 3lb bass you catch every other weekend.
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newfag to these breads
what're my chances of bringing some depth charges and a net instead of spending money on rod and reels
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Are slide swimmers the funko pops of fishing?
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>>2555548
I haven't gotten a wsb yet
My gripe with Corbina is how sparse the meat is. The fish seems to be like 50% guts and 20% bones
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>>2555320
Wrap it in electrical tape and grab it with pliers
>>2555444
Trips confirm walleye is goat
>>2555473
This, too.
>>2555515
I tie flies and people are generally happy with them but my turnaround time isn't super fast

>>2555554
That is a really good way to devastate an entire ecosystem and get arrested
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