USDA Hardiness Zone Map: https://garden.org/nga/zipzone/Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Mvfh8b87Koppen Climate Map: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/K%C3%B6ppen_World_Map_High_Resolution.pngSearch terms:Agrarian, Agriculture, Agrology, Agronomy, Aquaculture, Aquaponics, Berkeley Method Hot Composting, Cold Frames, Companion Planting, Composting, Container Gardening, Core Gardening Method, Cultivation, Deep Water Culture (DWC), Dry Farming, Espalier, Farmer's Market, Forest Gardening, Forestry, Fungiculture, Geoponics, Greenhouses, Homesteading, Horticulture, Hot Boxes, Hugelkultur, Humanure, Hydroponic Dutch Bucket System, Hydroponics, Keyhole Garden, Korean Natural Farming, Kratky Method, Landscaping, Lasagna Gardening, Ley Farming, Market Garden, Mulching, No-till Method, Ollas Irrigation, Orchard, Permaculture, Polyculture, Polytunnels, Propagation, Rain Gutter Garden, Raised Beds, Ranch, Rooftop Gardening, Ruth Stout Garden, Sharecropping, City Slicker Composting, Shifting Cultivation, Soil-bag Gardening, Square Foot Gardening, Stale Seed Bed, Sugar Bush, Truck Farming, Vermiculture, Vertical Gardening, Window Frame Garden, Windrow Composting, Alpaca, Snail, Toad, Trumpeter, Turkey, Wormprevious bread: >>2539674
>>2546240G'Day cunts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvEU25dBo6Y
>20 days until springWhatcha planting?Whatcha sowing?Whatcha tending?Whatcha planning?
>>2546301spinach, mizuna, carrots and peas have all sprouted. flowers are still hiding beneath the surface
Tell me the truth about terra preta anons, is it something I could feasibly attempt to reproduce at home? I found a company called SoilFixer that bills itself on having the best commercial and single-gardener available additive to create ‘terra preta’ at home and even include lots of blog posts citing sources and talking about how to do it even without buying their products. Still, I know a good ad campaign when I see one. Where I live the soil is quite dense with clay like the Amazon, but otherwise the conditions are quite different. Is there any genuine benefit to applying the fabled black earth over any other variety of compost if I’m just wanting to grow some veggies and flowers?
>>2546240Hey bys! I got a question for all you smart folk, even you dumbies too.In CANADA where can I find rootstocks to graft VINIFERA grapes on? Everything I find is wholesale, or hybrid grapes that don't need grafting. Should I just graft the vinifera to a hardy hybrid rootstock OR graft or to a vitis RIPARIA? Fucking Canada... can never get the plants you want...
>>2546301Olives and corn. I;m still very new to crops
>mulching with clayviable or not?
Doing some landscaping this spring and I was going to put some garden beds in. Any recommendations on crops that can get a late start? Anybody ever grow arctic beauty kiwi? Zone 3 here.
>>2546380Probably not since its water soluble and would just rinse away throughout the season.
This may be a dumb question but here it is;I'm growing winter squash for the first time this year, should I train them up a trestle? If I do how should I position the trestle relative to the base of the plant? Putting the trestle over the stem and letting it grow up would put the plants base in full shade and also in a tunnel where humidity and mold could cause issues I assume.
>>2546423I could also make the trestle one-sided and plant something more shade tolerant on the open side
>>2546402ok then maybe in a perfectly flat land only
>>2546364problem is the charcoal.If you dont have a repeatable process that gets rid off all volatiles you are poisoning your land with some really nasty stuff. This requires some ingenuity and trial and error on your part.Basically before extinguishing a batch of coal, no flame should be left burning. pure coal has no flame, only glimms on the surface. Then you should smell the cold coal pieces, pure coal has no smell. If you smell the typical burned stench, the piece is contaminated
>>2546423I've trellis grow winter squash before. You'll need to support the fruits or they end up getting to heavy and dieing on the vine.I put the trellis on the north side of my beds so I can grow short things in front.
>>2546502Thanks for the info, I have seen some methods for making charcoal kilns on Primitive Technology that I’d like to try. On SoilFixer they made the claim that the absolute best type of charcoal is between .2 and .8 microns and has a mix of large and narrow pores. The logic, so they claim, is that this type of charcoal granule is best for functioning as a refuge for bacteria, as a sponge for nutrients and water, and to aerate the soil. I doubt the Amazonian cultures could use an electron microscope to inspect their charcoal granules, so I’m wondering about the efficacy of those claims
>>2546301Getting ready to redo my garden while it’s nice out and planting spinach, green beans, and probably some peppers to go with it. Last year was my first attempt and managed to actually get some spinach but nothing came of the green beans.
>>2546423>>2546429I've done both, you can grow winter squash up a trellis but you want something sturdy not some trellinet teir plastic fabric. I'd grow lettuce under the trellis which is ideal in the heat of the summer. (I've done this and it works great) I grow in market garden style beds now 30 inch beds, 18 inch rows so I do straight trellis down the middle of the rows and grow on either side of my trellis with none competeing crops. So long as this is full sun, what you plant either under or behind your trellis should be spring/falls crops. You can do shade type crops but the shading really helps these spring crops out in the heat of the summer. (Arugula, radish, lettuce, carrots, spinach potentially.) Something that won't compete with nutrients to heavily. So nothing like kale, cabbage, broccoli, tomatoes etc. I trellis peas, cucumbers, squash, tomatoes, and beans.) If I have a trellis of cucumbers or tomatoes or in your case winter squash, Lettuce, arugula, radish, turnips, carrots, bush beans, other greens (mizuna, mache), would all benefit from the shade in summer and not take up a lot of space or compete heavily with nutrients. Lettuce would really shine the best with this type of system you're trying to do.
>>2546423Also to answer your question just set the trellis right in front of your plant so that the plant grows up the outside of the trellis. The trellis itself can be basically up to a foot away and your plant will reach it
I just planted some broccoli seeds in something like this, did I fuck up? I planted them in the garden as well but I wanted some backup ones in case
>>2543716plant Cu and Zn hyperaccumulators ? it also seems somewhat B deficient as well
>>2546596>>2546647>>2546648Thank you.
>>2546301Onions started that's it so far
>>2546240Bahama Goat Pepper looking short and thick
>>2546765Oh anon, you know I like 'em short and thick
>made another baker creek order of nothing but pepper seeds even though I probably already have too many seeds started at once. I have no self control when it comes to gardening but I love it to death & chili peppers are fucking great now since I have a dehydrator and cast iron mortar & pestle. I am also super hyped to grow Roman Chamomile for the first time.
>>2546770Matts peppersRefining fire chili'swhite hot chili's pupperspeppers on etsyYes I'm enabling your pepper fetish1 of 3
>>25467742 of 3
>>2546775>>25467743 of 37 wild pepper varieties on order6 rocoto peppers I am pleasedWild varieties NOT pic relatedI'll post wild peppers when they arrive
>>2546776
>>2546779
>>2546776I order from them too. Pretty good company.
My strange assortment of seedlings after only 4 days
>>2546781Nice to see another rocoto enjoyer. Pubescens gets way too little attention in the pepper community. Sure they are slow to fruit and finicky to grow in hot environments but if you can pull it off they are totally worth it.
>>2546653From what I understand some broccoli if not all does better direct planted but that doesn't mean you can't try to start it as a seedling. I have some growing as seedlings right now and plan on moving them once it warms up. Hopefully they transplant well>>2546776I've gotten a zero yield with my Murasaki purple peppers and I'm malding, they are bottom right 3x3 in this pic
>>2546301Beefsteak tomatoes, beets in containers (tarded I know), very few radishes, Okinawan sweet potato, snap peas, brugmansia, lavender and some assorted herbs
What I have so far
>all these pepper postersDoes anyone here grow actual food?
>>2547034What do you mean? Also this is pepper and tomatoe starting season. Won't be starting my cold hardy stuff for a month or more.
>>2547034Peppers are food you donut. But yes tomatoes and peppers go well together for salsa. Corn, beans, peas, herbs, cucumbers, sunflowers, melons. I've grown all those and wish I had more dirt to plant in. Life goal is to get an acre of various foods and feed myself.
>>2547034Maybe next time you should grow something with less heat so you can actually eat your peppers and leave the super hots for the big boys.
>>2547034>the veggie virgin fears the Pepper Chad
>>2547144>veggieyou simply cant use that faggy word in my presence
>>2547185I’ll reconsider my actions
>>2546373I'll probably will just go with a hardy hybrid that was developed for maritime Canada.
What’s a good ph tester set to use?
>>2546240I'm an anon from>>>/aco/7054262If you were to fuck any plant or fungi which one would it be?
>>2547300Also will semen help plants and or fungi grow better?
>>2547301Fungus, yes
Can anyone give me good advice on keeping critters away from my stuff? I’ve tried for 2 years and the deer, squirrels and mice get over my chicken wire fence and eat the little bit that actually grows. I had some success with peppers, and some tomato plants that seemed to die but resurrected late last season and I covered in bird netting. So this year I was thinking about using bird netting and covering some raised beds like seen here: https://www.grit.com/farm-and-garden/do-it-yourself/raised-bed-cover-zm0z22mazram/Is this going to work? Is there anything better I can do? I can’t fence my property (no choice, sorry) and the 4 foot fence seems to not work. I want to love gardening even though I haven’t grown much in the past few years. I’m still figuring it out but I have a bit of a black thumb.
>>2547330Oh btw I wanna grow tomatoes, squash, onions, peppers, and spinach.
If you were wanted to grow a pine tree, how long before you could harvest the needles for tea?
>>2547300I’d wanna fuck a pumpkin or watermelon lady, or like a jiggly wood ear lady
>>2547330If you want to guarantee deer not getting into your plot you need an 8ft fence. I've been pretty much fine with 5ft just with some squirrel/rabbit damage here or there
is tobacco a bad beginner grow
>>2547384Growing is not the hard part, processing the harvest to get anything like store bought tobacco is. Its not like you could just dry it out and smoke it. It will just crumble into tiny dust that will burn literally in seconds and tastes like shit if you dont get rid off chrolophyll.
>>2547211For soil? Your tung. Use litmus strips at first to get an idea but after that you'll taste it.
>>2546301Mostly getting peppers and tomatoes started since last year I didn't get a long enough season and got left with a lot of unripe stuff when the freezes came >Italian sweet cherry peppers>banana peppers(not a big fan of hot peppers)>rainbow tomatoes>black beauty(found these taste better than most people say and VERY productive for my area, going for another year with them)>Ed hume rainbow tomato mix to get a bunch of funky heirloom varieties all at once>Rosita eggplant>Chinese eggplant >Eclipse Hybrid eggplant>tray of purple cauliflower>and like half a dozen pepinos
>>2547379>>2547301Ok. Good to know thank you!
>>2546847>>2546947How do you get those out? I've tried a few different seed tray setups, but I've prioritized ease of separation more over time. Do you really just let them fill the ball and yank them up? If space isn't an issue (and it isn't for me) I'd rather space them out more with pots and self standing plugs (I do both). I've put myself through way too many cramped germination sessions trying to fit all i can, I always space them out a lot now to save the headache. I could see the cardboard one just tearing apart easily enough, but the single formed plastic looks like it could be tricky.
>>2547523There are holes in the bottom for poking, they even make poking trays for popping them all out at once on a larger scale. A stick has never not worked for me.
>>2547387I am growing aztec tobacco mostly for pesticide tea for my plants but I also want to cure some/role some for smoking. With Oriental tobacco at least in Turkey & Greece they sun dry it to cure it but there might be more to it because I am a greenhorn so what do I know.
>>2547383Yeah I can’t. I don’t have enough room away from the house to build a fence that tall, the fucking township considers an enclosed garden next to the house to be a structure that has to be at least 10 feet out so I’m kinda screwed there.
>>2547650There's also a fencing method with deer where you run a line around your posts 1 foot off the ground, then another line 1-2 feet up from that and another line 1-2 up from that. Litterally just three lines making an open fence like system. Then what you do is go like 2 feet out from that fence you just made and do it again but just with a single line like halfway up or so. You're gonna have to look this up because I forget what's it's called. When a deer walks up to this due to the way his eyes and depth perception works it looks like some giant wall too him that he can't get over. You'd want to use some sort of like high vis line. Like 1/2 inch flat rope or something. It's really either that, an 8ft fence, or an electric type fence. I had deer get into my garden for the first time last year around the end of the season so I wasn't totally torn up about it, but it did make me aware that my 5ft fence situation is hit or miss keeping the deer out. Squirrels don't really seem to do anything but occasionally nibble at some tomatoes during the heat of the summer because they're thirsty, this can be fixed with a bird bath/water bowl somewhere outside the garden. But yea if a deer gets into your garden he'll eat just about everything. I remember deer eating my swiss chard, tomatoes, peas, skipping over my brassicas mostly.
>>2547671Don’t you think bird netting would stop both deer and squirrels? Seems to work on tomatoes.
>>2547676Yea it could probably work, if you had a large area it might be impractical, and covering something like tomatoes would probably be difficult if they grow super tall
>>2547688Sorry I’m retarded. The tomatoes are in pots with sticks and theyre tall. The raised beds are only for other vegetables. The bird netting worked so well on the tomato towers that’s why I thought it might work on the cover for the raised beds.
Is it a good idea to try to fuck an aloe plant?
>>2547690Yea it'll work
>>2547690Squirrels eat my corn stalks. I’m thinking pellet gun and BBQ.
>>2546364Get some BBQ charcoal. The cheapest shit you can find. Crush it into powder. Soak it in miracle grow. Mix it 1:4 by volume into your soil.
>>2546598> Amazonian culturesPracticed slash and burn agriculture like everyone else. They fired their pottery on the burns, that’s why you see pottery shards on the terra preta. They planted on top of their burns. It’s not more complicated than that.
Talk to me about gardening over a leech field. All of the extension offices say not to but the only sunny patch in our back yard is the roughly 60'x60' leech field. It's got healthy grass and I figured if we did just a few 3'x10' raised beds with 8" of soil we might be able to avoid any issues. Thoughts?
any UK chads in?
>>2547043>But yes tomatoes and peppers go well together for salsa. Corn, beans, peas, herbs, cucumbers, sunflowers, melons.Are you me?
Happy to report my Carlos muscadines have survived another winter
>>2547926Not that I know of? Am I talking to myself?
>>2546301Tomatoes, Potatoes, Onions, Strawberries, maybe some Lettuce, maybe some Spinach, Carrots, and Chamomile. Maybe some Broccoli and Green beans too but I grew some last year and the year prior and I'm worried about pests and diseases. Also, last year we found sunflowers growing around our bird feeders all on their own. Maybe I can encourage the cycle and let the birds have their own fall harvest too.
What do you boys think about growing garlic?
>>2547769So what’s all this hubbub about these Indian black earth sites being able to be farmed continuously for years without depleting their nutrient or needing to be rotated and regenerating themselves in the absence of human input? Are these all just qualities of a matured field of slash and burn agriculture societies or is there something unique in the soil? The material that SoilFixer makes their money on is specially made charcoal, which they claim is what makes terra preta unique among cultivated soils. I suppose that some charcoal may be added to the soil during slash and burn periods, but some studies have claimed these fields have undergone 40 years of continuous use. Are there perhaps methods that I can use in concert with slash and burn to shorten or eliminate the fallow period?
>>2547963I think I forget to plant it every fall and then get mad at myself in the spring. This year will be different
>>2547964>So what’s all this hubbub about these Indian black earth sites being able to be farmed continuously for years without depleting their nutrienteither incredible low yield or the exploitation hasnt catch up to them yet.It took the soviets half a century of mismanagement to ruin the Ukraine plains.Today the "most fertile soil" on the planet bring in less per acre than a proper managed stony field in central Europe
>>2547973Ah I see I see, another case of runaway scientific journalism, no magic mystery soil after all. Do you have any book/resource recommendations for soil management?
>>2547963It’s a noble pursuit, some would even say a holy task. Garlic is God’s sweet musk.
>>2547972Good man real garlic is so much better than the chink crap people pay $0.99/lb for.
>>2547963I grew it last yearIt was okThe bulbs were quite small though but IIRC the bulbs I bought from the garden centre were small too so maybe I'm just dumb
>>2546301Lettuce, radish, arugula, spinach, kale, cabbage, beets, carrots, cherry tomatoes, beefsteak tomatoes, Roma tomatoes, pickling cucumbers, snacking cucumbers, bush beans, shelling beans(borlotto), eggplant, zucchini, bell peppers, jalepeno, swiss chard, peas, brussel sprouts, collard greens. Overwintering under poly low tunnels: spinach, lettuce, carrots, turnips. Maybe I'll fit in a crop of broccolini
>>2547523Just use a soil blocker and use a 3parts peat moss, 2 parts compost mix. Sand, perlite, fertilizer, etc will make it better. I'll never go back to cell trays unless they're windstrips or heavy duty. I just use a 2 inch blocker for everything if it needs to be potted on just mold more of your soil mix around the block by hand. But this really only happens with tomatoes, peppers, eggplant due to their early start time before transplanting
>>2546776Based /pol/ poster.
>>2547034Tons of different types of food. Trying to turn my yard into the greatest natural growing machine, just by facilitating gods design.
>>2547927love scuppers, me
>still cant figure out how to grow cornsalad
>>2548202Stick seed in cell, transplant after 3-5 weeks. Enjoy. Litterally no different than growing lettuce and should be even easier considering how cold tolerant it is
>>2548167https://www.johnnyseeds.com/tools-supplies/seed-starting-supplies/soil-blocking/hand-held-4-soil-blocker-7862.htmlI just got this since last summer and really like it so far. Still getting the hang of it but I can usually fill a tray pretty quick even though I rarely get 4 clean blocks per press.I sometimes give them a mild kelp solution depending on what it is but otherwise I've fallen into something like 40/40/20 peat/perlite/sand or usually just 50/50 peat/perlite if I'm not near clean sand. They do fine until they're in the ground without fertilizer and adding stuff just risks throwing off pH or something.
>>2548185awwwww they're cute!
>>2548212>Can usually fill a tray pretty quickly It's definitely slower I feel than just dumping mix over cells and spreading it out, but you save time when transplanting the plants, so it factors out. I think most forumlas can work with variation, I don't follow the original mix, but mines fine. 3 parts peatmoss (can substitute coconut coir), 2 parts compost, 1 part top soil, 1 part sand/perlite. And a couple cups of my homemade fertilizer. If you use compost, fertilizers probably not necessary and vise versa. I've made them with just peat moss and compost at the simplest and they still work, but if you're saying you don't even use compost that's interesting. Most plants are transplanted after 3-4 weeks so I can see why you wouldn't need compost, but I'd like to have it for tomatoes,peppers, etc. But shit like lettuce, yea just peat would be perfect to save on ingredients
>>2547676Squirrels in my area (Nfld) ate those red fuckers, and they gnaw throw most things... I'm not sure how I will deal with them come spring and summer for my crops...
>>2547927Gorgeous! I've never tried them. I'm in a fucky climate (Nfld), but will attempt hardy hybrid wine grapes and german wine grapes this year... wish me luck!
>>2548219Ameraucaunas (I think that's how you spell it)Two lay olive, one lays blue. Apparently you can get all kinds of egg colors from this breed. Super low maintenance, super friendly, super hardy. I'm in central Florida so they've survived hurricanes too
Is there such a thing as mealy cherry tomatoes?
>>2546301Our neighbour let us know they're rotorvating their allotment so we nabbed it for an hour to do our plot. We're still starting off so are just planting a few things this year. I was going to do raised beds again but I'm surprised at how good the soil is. We've had it covered under membrane for a year and it's lovely and rich.
>>2548226I've had great success with tomatoes, peas/beans and melon with 1:1 peat to aerator as the starter. Pretty much all of them sprouted and transplanted well. Been having some trouble getting peppers going, though. Last year I was determined but they took so much longer than the others so it threw my timing off. I was ready to recycle the blocks when the hot peppers finally sprouted and I actually did recycle the bell pepper blocks before they eventually sprouted while I was starting something else lol
>>2548317be careful to pick up dock roots and weeding this year.good luck!
Give it to me straightDoes my plot have potential?
>>2548354if you can grow weeds you can grow anythings
>>2548360I only got it today so not even started yetIt come with free rhubarb that looks nearly ready so that's pretty cool. The lady said the plot hasn't been worked on since October so I wonder if a neighbour has been looking after the rhubarbsAnyway I think my plan for the first week is to just clear all the wood chippings, get rid of the weeds and turn over the soil. Then I'll think about what I want to plant
>>2548362wood chippings are nice soil is okdig up the weeds put your plants
my spinach sprouted last week but now the seedlings are just sitting therewhat gives?
>>2548354looks like England with plenty of sunlight. might need to mulch it too put some nutrients back into the soil
>>2548427They know another frost is coming next week and they have given up. Real answer: who knows, have you tried asking them? Probably a combination of sunlight, warmth, nutrients, bugs, and water.
>>2548430I planted the seeds in those cardboard trays, so they're either dry or soaking wet.regrettable purchase
>>2548431Hm, they may just be ready for dirt or some kind of peet. If the only root medium is that cardboard trash you might need to put them in temporary dirt.
>>2548431the cardboard trays are garbage from what I heard. I was given some as a gift this past christmas and I gave it to a buddy of mine who wanted to start his own garden. They have worked for him so far but they dont actually break down in the soil quickly enough to bury them and they quickly gather mold from being damp cardboard.
Have a crapload of cabbage I grew over winter. This one was one of the ones I thinned out and tossed to the chickens. I felt bad for this guy and planted him in a pot. Looks like something here likes to eat them
My Grocery Outlet had this apricot tree for $20.
>>2548534Are u sure it is autofertile?
>>2548541That's none of my business.
something got into my garage and went straight for the box of bone meal. might also have dug up my cabbage patch where i fertilized with fish meal.
Can't start til end of May FFS. I am worried my raspberries are too old.
>>2548468hot
>>2547300I'd probably fuck a lavender bush
>>2546240Broccoli and ginger growing up. Planted the broccoli back in November. Also threw an avocado seedling in the mix
I want to grow sweet peppers, and have narrowed down the specific variety to Romano or California Wonder; does anyone on here have any preference between them?They'll be grown in the UK inside a polytunnel, if it matters.
>>2548616grow both
>>2548362Alright here's how I make 10/10 beds. I grow in 30 inch beds 18inch row market garden style allotments for pure convience but any system works. There's fast ways to make beds which aren't as good and long ways to make beds which are better but your compromised for a season.>Sillage tarp my area(any tarps fine). This is to Under kill grass and weeds. >Take tarp off when everything's good and dead (this can be done in 4 weeks or more depending on temperature)>Mark my beds and rows >Rototill>Add compost>Rototill in >Plant in cover crop (oats, winter rye, field peas, vetch, etc) can use a combination but any cover crop that works for your area and the season. In early spring I'll use field peas, and oats. >After the cover crop becomes well established terminate it by crimping or knocking it over and put your tarp back over to kill and decompose. If you did this method in early spring you'll have beds ready for mid-late summer and fall planting. >If needed add more compost and plant right into it. I only rototill my beds once initially when making them, to make it workable enough for deep root pentration with your cover crops and then I shift over to no till growing. I ammend my beds once a season with a layer of compost, and regularly utilize things like cover crops to keep the soil healthy, add nitrogen, and till the soil with their root penetration. If you need a garden bed right away simply rototill add compost on top and plant into it. But the above method will establish the best beds if you have the time. Cover crops like winter rye can be planted in the fall and terminated in spring before planting summer plants like tomatoes, peppers, etc. I wouldn't use something like winter rye in a bed you plan on using in early spring for spring crops like lettuce, cabbage, etc
>>2548616I've grown California wonders, respectable yields for bell peppers, I grow them out in the field and not in poly tunnels so you'll probably have better success. I'm trying king of the north this season which is a good northern variety, worth considering
How early would you pick tomatoes?I am being terrorised by animals eating my tomatoes so I think I'm going to pick early
>plant some spare watemelon seedlings at my parents place>they grow incredibly fast and are now producing butternut pumpkins>my parents have never grown pumpkins beforeWhat exactly happened here? Can seeds/fragments in compost somehow hijack a plant?
>>2548700checked. i built mine in a cage kinda for that purpose.
>>2548717probably had a pumpkin in the compost. those seeds are hard to kill. i still get them here and there. ended up growing some with yardlong beans and red corn
>>2548468GIRTH
>>2548719That is ruinous news for me. I just moved into a new place, filled my only raised bed with yard waste and rotted pumpkins full of seeds from last October, I just need to add soil and I was going to be ready to grow. Ready to grow pumpkins, I guess.
>>2548596BRB gotta look up lavender on r34, I feel like she would be a gentle dom
>>2547474I went to that thread and the new one, didn’t see any pumpkin gals
Is there anything detrimental to me scattering seeds randomly in my garden, rather than planting in rows as is normal?
>>2546423It's a pain in the assThe vines can get over 10ftThey dont grip very well so you have to tie them off as they grow, theyre very heavy so the support has to be substantialAll the fruit have to be suspended in nets
>>2547330I've tried everything for deer You need a really tall fence, or a dog
>>2548849You tried shooting them?
>>2548832>oh boy my arugala is ready>or is this racquet>oh wait no it's spinach>oh yuck it was just a dandelion
>>2548832>germination will not be good (different seeds require different depths, heat, moisture levels to sprout)>vegetables with similar nutritional needs being sown near each other means seedlings will have to compete for nutrition >uneven spacing means seedlings will compete for nutrition with each other>identification is a bitch especially within the same family or if you want more than one varietybasically it's a clusterfuckif you're trying to maximize yield, use rows/grids but multisow many seeds into the same holeif you're doing this because you're lazy, at least just draw a line in the ground before sprinkling your seeds, it's the bare minimum you could do. root vegetables like carrots and parsnips actually like this method of sowingwildflowers you could probably get away with just scattering as long as you're throwing them into soil and not just the grass
Am I supposed to be fertilizing my plants semi-regularly, like 1-2 times a month?I just set them in my soil mix (compost, vermiculite, peat) and they grew kinda weak and stunted...idk if this is because I was underfertilizing, overwatering them (once per day, every day, is that too much?), or something else entirely
>>2548801ive noticed some watermelons look like pumpkins when they come up. typically if i dont want the pumpkin to grow i just treat it like the weeeds i pull out. the seeds will eventually rot.
>>2548930bring a soil sample to someone with testing capability. you might have something toxic in the soil or not enough of something else. what are you fertilizing with and what are you growing?
>>2548930watering that much might be too much anon.
Does anybody have any advice for growing onions, chives, & bunching/warrior onions in my case? I started some Australian brown onion seeds back in early February and just received my chives & warrior bunching onion seeds in the mail and will have them in the dirt before the end of the day.
>>2548989yeah, put seeds in dirt, water, talk to them, and grow.
>>2548993thanks should I use less nitrogen compared to other veggies? I know if I want them to bulb I need to feed them more phosphorus & potassium in order for them to get to any decent size.
>>2548989I grew chives and onionsChives and onions are super easy you just need to keep an eye out on them because they can be devastated by pests like aphids
>>2549029good to know. I had to deal with Aphids last year so I am a bit better prepared now vs then however the real test is once my Aztec Tobacco gets big enough I plan to make pesticide tea with its leaves to protect my plants & Aztec Tobacco has a fair amount of flowers for bees.
>>2546301I think i might build this in my inner city suburb.
The snow plow demolished my mailbox and then my seeds didn't get delivered. I need those onion seeds soon.
>>2548982I forgot to add it hasn't rained in ~3 monthsI forget that some people live in places that rain multiple times a week
>>2548872^this, then crucify one of the corpses as a warning
First pepper to start ripening
>>2549147nice, fren. are those some kind of scorpion? pepper noob here. i have tons of varieties going this year too.
>>2549141In the ozarks it rains for three days then doesn’t rain for two weeks then rains a couple days a week for two weeks then goes a month without rain
>>2549155iktf fellow mo bro. I am hoping my Ozark Pink Tomatoes, Everglades Tomatoes & Ozark Giant Bells are tough enough to make it but MO weather is Misery of temperature & moisture swings.
>>2549147she's a beaut anon
Finally harvested my bananas, we call these banana dedo(finger bananas). Tiny, cute and sweet.
>>2549159I just don’t even bother with tomatoes anymore, you’re braver than I. I’ll probably stick to peppers and melons this year, maybe a dragons tail radish or two and of course reseeding the flower beds with Turkish poppies
>>2549147where do you live that you have peppers ripening on winter?
>>2549237this guy grows
just covered my pear, plum and wisteria trees because we're excepting frost this week (they just started budding)please be kind
>>2546301Germinating some Hungarian chili peppers and 3 different kinds of tomatoes at the moment.Wanna grow some more butternut pumpkins since they grew surprisingly well last year and they're really tasty and productive.Grew some chestnut trees indoors over the winter and they're coming along nicely for the most part. Since you need at least two trees for proper fertilization but my space is limited, I wanna plant them close together. Is this a good idea? I just want them to survive, they don't have to get massive.And I gotta trim the walnut tree that is growing close to the neighbor's garden.
>>2549275It’s summer in the southern hemisphere
>>2546240Where is the cheapest or most reliable place in CANADA to get those large galvanized steel garden beds?I want something that will last, and wont bleed heavy metals into the soil.
OYYY YOU CANT JUST GROW WILD PEPPERS FOR FUNWHERES YOUR WILD PEPPER LOICENSE
>>2549396also some fun bakers creek arrivedstill waiting on my purple yam seed taters
>>2549396Hope you have cool and long summers because manzanos hate heat. They just idle during the warmest months and when they start to produce it can be already too late to get ripe peppers. They also like big differences between day and night temps. Greenhouse is a good idea to extend the season on both ends but bad idea during middle of the summer. Also do not keep them in direct sunlight all day long, they like more shaded area.
It's the first month of autumn hereWhat should I plant?I'm thinking of lettuce, kale, garlic and daikonMaybe onions and beetroot
>>2549408i usually grow out of zone stuff starting in the fall. run potatoes, they do fine. broccoli, cabbage, yardlong beans, all that did good over my winter. i believe i'm in zone 9a
>>2549318my best advice is to just build it and fix it as you go, like our ancestors. well, maybe not yours, leaf.
>>2549396cool wild/super exotic peppers. I want to get my hands on some Capsicum Galapagoense aka Galapagos wild peppers. They are mostly seeds and very tiny pods with spines/trichomes all over the plant that are very spicy supposedly.
>>2546240Does anyone use these types of worm bins? Have one going for about a year and the castings don't seem to be pushed to the bottom. I just checked the bottom hatch and it's still the original cardboard bedding I used when I set it up yet the top half where I'm load g food seems like it's all the castings and stuff. Should I stop feeding it for a while? I only give it a chunk of food like every 3 or 4 weeks too.
>>2548989I'm growing walking onions. A very fun plant. Every season means you have new bulbs to plant or give away.
How much longer should I leave these for before I start harvesting?
>>2549626I assume those are jalapenos. Wait until the first ones are ripe so you can tell if you like them more. If you are going to harvest them green you should wait till they stop growing in size. Ripe jalapenos are more sweet and hot with different flavour when the green ones are more crunchy and mild.
>>2549626If you are not planning on selling them i usually wait until the start corking, which is when they develop those little lines that way you know they aren’t “underripe” oPic related
>>2546240Started taking gardening more seriously this year. Last year I knew fuck all and bought a couple of seed packets and planted directly outside, never watered. Had some success but since I neglected them I had no idea what grew and I harvested and saw nothing. This year I decided to actually put effort into it and I'm still making mistakes at every turn but I'm trying. Here's my "Tray A". From the left column, it's kale, brussel sprouts, chives, bell pepper, bell pepper, tomato beefstake, tomato sweetie, red onion, red onion, yellow onion, yellow onion, yellow onion. Planted directly into the tray on 2-23. Did some thinning a few days ago, cut the leggiest fellas because I get my shelves and lights until late last week. Hoping these guys make it, I've also started a secondary batch of everything on throw away plates with a damp paper towel which I'm gonna put into another tray as back ups. Oh and I recently started bottom watering, have been overhead misting til day before yesterday. Anything I should be concerned about?
>>2549695I also want to have an indoor herb garden. Everything else that's too crowded can go outside. From the left it's Lavender, Lavender, peppermint, rosemary, parsley, sage, taragon, lemon balm, thyme, oregano, dill, basil. Also planted directly 2-23.
>>2549697My mom asked me to plant a lot of flowers this year. I grabbed some packets without reading how tall they can get, I only picked the pretty looking ones. I don't really know where to put them all yet but I'll figure it out when I get there. This is a mix between mostly wildflowers with some lupines. I thought hardening off was packing the soil tight or something and I had transplanted from my Tray D to save the flowers from overcrowding. I did the transplanting outside on a beautiful sunny day and then left them outside for the rest of the day. They all wilted and then I learned what hardening actually was. I brought them in and about half of them fully died. I've been replacing the dead with seedlings that already grew leaves from my plate with damp towel stash. Mixed success. I saw a video that said to wait til they get their leaves to transplant into the starter tray but most of those transplanted have died too, or have very weak growth. I'm starting to transfer seedlings into the trays once they first poke their root out instead now, see what happens. Anyways this is Tray C.
>>2549702This is the OG flower tray, tray D. I labeled the trays a few days ago and I fucked up the chronological order. Seeds planted directly into the starter tray. Rows from the top are Blue bonnet, Blue bonnet, Lupine, Butterfly, Snap Dragon, and Wild flowers. I thought I transplanted some blue bonnets into tray C but either they died or I didn't transplant as many as I thought I did. Lots of empty cells. I stuck some lupine seeds from the plate batch into the empty blue bonnet cells. I think I'll make a plate of blue bonnet seeds tonight and fill the rest of the cells. I don't know what's going on with the snapdragon.
>>2549708This is Tray G, only peppers in this tray. Seeds planted directly into it on 2-23. Didn't see germination at all until a few days ago. I bought two heating mats and then I saw them sprout, the other mat has the plate batches of pepper seeds and those are germinating quickly now. Looks like every section has woke up. From the top row its Jalapeno, Hungarian Yellow Wax, Dwarf Thai Pepper, Cayenne, Serrano, and Habanero. Super exciting to see them finally growing, my favorite tray so far.
>>2549710>>2549708 (You)whoops forgot to post pic
I got it in my head yesterday to try helping a stump in the back yard break up faster by pouring water into the center cracks so it can turn to ice. So I shoveled all the snow off it and started pouring water. There must be a sizeable void underground because all the water I pour in the cracks keeps draining away. I'll try a few more times over the next day before I give up. In the spring I'll bury it in compost for the summer.
>>2546380Mulching no. But if the land permits it can be useful for swales.
>>2549695>>2549697>>2549702>>2549708>>2549711I'm really 'miring your light and tray setup, looks like you're having a lot of success with it.
>>2546770Had a bumper crop of peppers last season; wound up freezing them - lay out on a cookie sheet so that they aren’t touching anything, and freeze. Once frozen toss them in a freezer bag, so they don’t clump together. Man, it’s nice for stir fries, just dice the frozen pepper and toss them inFinally built a greenhouse, started a couple dozen pepper seedlings last night.. live at a pretty high elevation in the pnw with a steep mountain to our south, so last frost is usually mid may - so nice getting a head start.We’re all gonna make it pepper bros.
>>2549818I am excited to save space by turning my chilis into powder & chili flakes this year thanks to the dehydrator however I will certainly freeze some my issue is lack of freezer space atm. I bought a bunch of onion chive seeds from Dollar Tree so I can companion plant chives with each of my potted pepper plants as a cover crop/companion plant/pest deterrent plus I love fresh onion chives for cooking. I still have some pepper seeds & tomato seeds in the mail from southern exposure seed exchange to get into the dirt but otherwise all my seeds are now planted this year. I might still break down and buy a couple of plants from Bonnie or Ferrie Morris such as Cajun bell but otherwise I want most of my plants to be started from my own seed for my second year of Gardening. Best of luck to you & your peppers.
How do you guys preserve and organise homegrown seeds for next year?
>>2549878Same way you buy them? Collect, dry, bag, label. If you want to get trick with your garden setup head to Walmart and get a fishing tackle tray or weekly medication organizer and stick them in there.
>>2549878I picked up a label maker and a bunch pill drams (opaque, water tight, reusable)
>>2549808Thank you, most of the growth happened alongside the kitchen sliding door on the floor until I set this up on the shelves. I don't have a green thumb at all so I appreciate the compliment.
>>2549837Anon I implore you to try making a white cheddar roasted poblano soup but substitute the poblanos with another pepper. I recently used jalapenos that I was gifted a bag of and it was delicious.
just tasted a solanum pseudocapsicum berry, tastes a bit like red pepper, also spicy peppery aftertaste, seeds pretty similar to pepper, spit all out bcuz its toxic
>>2549878use the little disposable plastic condiment containers with a plastic lid. They hold an ounce or two and are more than enough to hold seeds once you have processed the seeds.
>>2549878Collect seed, put in envelope, label, put in an ammo can with desiccant packs. Some stuff I do that or vacuum seal with desiccant packs and put them in the freezer. That might be an extreme step but the germination quality of seeds declines rapidly every year from the original year you harvested them, especially in non controlled temperature environments like if you keep them outside with fluctuating temps. Oxidization, moisture, and sunlight all reduce the lifespan of seeds, so don't store seeds in clear plastic bags, where they'll be exposed to humidity and lock it in. At the very minimum, under those conditions they'll still last 3 years potentially, but vacuum sealed frozen seeds can last atleast 15+ years.
You hydroponics ain't shit
How many years do pepper seeds keep?
>>2546765Good taste, anon. That's one of my favourite hot varieties.
>>2549946Several years if stored well. But if you have a lot of old seeds, sow a lot more more than you need and many should still pop up but germinate more slowly. The oldest pepper seeds I've sprouted were around 5-6 years old, and many were still viable. On a related note, I have sprouted around 15-year-old tomato seeds. Most were not viable, but I think I sowed the whole packet (probably 15-20 seeds) in a paper towel and got a few sprouts, but it took at least two weeks for them to germinate. I've also sown tomato seeds that were around 10 years old and most of them sprouted (but also took longer to germinate).
Just got some Okra and Runner beansAny tips for these? Heard they don't transplant well at all.Should I germinate them in a paper towel, start them in a tray, or just direct sow outside (It's 17-30C outside)
>>2549968Plant okra somewhere you don’t want anything else to grow. Be prepared to run out of recipes.
Does anybody grow dude weed lmao? I would have thought it would be pretty popular.
>>2549396Look at these beautiful praetermissum peppers
>>2550014A DIFFERENT ONE
>>2546240>don't have the room to gardenfeels bad man
>>2549954Your tomato seeds wanted to find themselves and focus on their careers apparently SoLOLanum at you, beta bux provider
>>2550089Can always grow microdwarf tomatoes on a windowsill
Anything wrong with starting seed germination in a paper towel and planting the active ones directly outside in the ground?
>>2550185Very practical for something like carrot seeds where if they dry out even remotely during the germination process they won't sprout, but still time consuming
>>2550196Okay thank you. I don't want to plant duds or sit around and wonder if the seeds were not viable.
>>2548801At least those are a "weed" you can safely compost. I do feel your pain though, I did the same with bell peppers. I've had quite a few accidental onions get going really well too. Preferable to any real weeds, or worse yet the weirdass weeds I get that vibrate and hiss when you mess with the pods that make me squeal like a girl. The neighbors probably think I have a girl tied up in my greenhouse
>>2548700I've probably lost tomatoes 95% of the time if they were exposed to wildlife. Birds like eating the red bits asap so they almost never fully ripen if they have access, and squirrels and mice just like taking a nibble I guess since it always seems to be a great looking tomato with one bite out of it. Dogs, cats and other larger animals will just eat them right out of the ground.I've had really good luck with leafy greens like kale and lettuce, and root plants like potatoes and beets, but tomatoes I will never leave exposed to birds ever again. Also if you're trying to keep out rodents look up vids of squirrels and mice/rats to see just what they're capable of, they're total shithead acrobatic daredevil contortionists and they coming for yo wife, yo children, they raping everybody out here.tl;dr: utilize bird net/greenhouse or lose your tomatoes and foster the larger generation of pests that will eat your tomatoes again next year
>>2548930Especially early on plants benefit a lot from letting the soil dry out some in-between waterings. It stimulates root growth and probably helps with microbes and stuff too. Where I live unless it rains I have to absolutely soak them at least once a day in the summer to help with perspiration, and in the winter I have to reasonably water them the "typical" every 3 days because it tends to be really dry but they're not battling 130 degree heat.No matter how I water them I usually give nutrients in similar intervals. I.E.: if it's summer they'll get watered once a day but only get kelp twice a week and fertilizer/compost about once every 2 months. The kelp isn't necessary unless it's hot so in winter I only give that when they're losing green or look sad, and fertilizer/compost on same schedule unless they lose green and kelp doesn't help or if the bed is bare during winter obviously I skip it until ~4 weeks before I plan to use it again.You definitely shouldn't fertilize or add any nutrients or anything every single time, imagine if you were in a smoky room vs a open park which is easier to breath in? You can stand the smoke for awhile but everyday would make you sick. It's a huge anxiety for me at times when I forget to fertilize since it really has to be spaced out and you cant cram it all in at once or else you go from trying to save a plant to killing it in cold blood. So it's really important to be on time and be very aware of what your plants might need not just today or tomorrow, but possibly a few months down the line so you can start working that into the soil without throwing off pH or anything.
>>2550303In my experience most pepper varieties need constantly moist but not wet soil when they are young. This is even more important if you start your peppers indoors during winter and have relatively cold growing space. If they go through drought period and then you soak them they do not know what to do with all the water and they get edema blisters even if you have perfect VPD. Chinense is not that prone to this but i will fuck up your annuums, baccatums and pubescens if you are not careful.
Summa sciurus annihilatio.
>>2550330I'm going to make some planter boxes just like that with some pallets thanks for the inspo anonMight post tomorrow
>>2546847Nice job man, a lot of my seedlings died within a couple days. I think I put them out too early. You live and learn.
>noticed my tomato leaves has yellowing/whitening at the tip/edgesAnyone knows why?
>>2550495frosted tips are making a comeback
>>2550176This I could probably do. I've already got a cactus and some small conifer, plus some vines, growing by/on my windowstool; A smaller tomato plant or something would be cool.
>>2550464Jusy keep in mind that old pallets can have all sort of toxic shit on them depending where they were used.
>>2547034well yeah, it's just for peppers and tomatoes this is the time for starting them in a greenhouse.green beans and corn are early may startpotatoes are not worth posting about>put in ground>wait
>>2548354>>2548362How do you own that much land
>>2550594hah, that looks like a suburban yard anon, what are you on about?
Should i be introducing predator insects to help deal with aphids in my garden?
>>2550597Not the other dude but for Euro standards that's considered pretty big. If this was near me it would probably read "huge garden" in the real estate listing.
>>2550594>>2550597>>2550600i think this must be allotmentsie a piece of land in/next to a town cut into good size chunks for townies to grow this and that if they like
>>2550605probably like this
>>2546240Help anons, what's wrong with my basil?
>>2550599From what Ive read, introducing, say, ladybugs isnt very effective, rather you should try to 'attract' ladybugs. They'll stick around that way. Idk how to do that though, and as always DYOR
>>2550616eat around it
>>2550624no bully =(
>>2550626Sorry, for you and your basil. I'll be more considerate next time.
>>2550616Have you been rubbing it? It bruises very easily
>>2550508Incredible input>>2550495Are they yellowing from bottom up? Could be over/ under wateringIf moisture is good nitrogen may be deficient. Blight should be pretty obvious but make sure to prune low branches and make sure there is good air flow.
>>2550632No, I haven't. Those parts feel very flaky to the touch
>>2550617Interesting i tried this with native bees and it worked maybe i'll do the same with ladybugs. My area has a shit tonne of pest versions of lady bugs. Maybe i'll buy a bag of pray mantis to keep them in check.
>>2550330what flowers are those?
>>2550616Looks like bug damage, thrips leave similar patterns.
>>2550616Did you put it outside without hardening off? Looks sunburnt to meAny visible pests?
>my roman chamomile has already sprouted after 4 days of being in the dirt>still have more roman chamomile seeds I can sow outside & its a hardy enough perennial that it will self sow and come back year after year. Its all going to be okay and everything is going to turn out alright anons. All our gardens are going to make it.
>>2550702>>2550703I kept it inside by the window all throughout winter, it had sufficient sunlight for the season. Now I'm starting to leave it outside during the warmest part of the day but I still bring it back in for the night.There are no visible, moving pests.
>>2549695>>2549697>>2549702>>2549708>>2549711Any recommendation for which lights to use?
>>2550719not that anon but most people seem to like the no name chinesium brand LED square lights or Light Bars usually whatever is cheap. For my own personal lights I own several spiderfarmer SF 600's & the Spider Farmer 200 watt light and I think they are pretty good if you can get them on sale.
>>2550718Have you heard of hardening off?
>>2550751>hardening offNever, what is that?
>>2550754Inside plants get weak and fragile. So you need to ease them into going outside. They can get sunburned. Few minutes of sunlight at first and more and more until they develop enough of a tan to not be burnt. It helps adapt them to colder weather too but basil doesnt do well.in cool weather even in the best of circumstances
>>2550754This applies to Tomatoes along with almost all other plants you start indoors & intend to move to an outdoor garden. You cant just move them outside into full time sunlight they need to be adjusted to it over a week or so. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-npnRJrF-jo
>>2550701Sweet william.
>>2550719Mine are 5000 lumen shop lights from Walmart. It was like 19.97 or something each. They're 4 ft long so it seemed like a good deal, but I'm extremely new to gardening so I can't really say I recommend them yet. My plants are growing but I'm still tinkering with distance. Thinking about getting two lights set up on each shelf so my furthest from the center plants stop leaning to the middle. Still, from the prices I've seen in person it seems lights can get extremely expensive fast and another $20 per shelf doesn't sound so horrible to me for the coverage I want.
>>2549695>>2550779>>2550719I never included a full setup pic so here it is today. I still have some trays working on germinating and I've still got some germinating plates on the top. Mostly flowers now, I feel like I've got enough veggie starts going. I'm starting to see some "true" leaves pop out from the seedlings too!
about 3 years ago I bought some blackberry plant thing. One of those deals where it's like a 1' tall stem and roots. Planted it and just kind of left it alone. first year it grew a little, but didn't do much. Next year it grew pretty well, lots of branches and a few fruits but not that many.As it was growing I realized it was dumb to put it so close to my AC unit as it's getting really big and covered in hypodermic needles.So this winter I cut it back and dug it up and moved it to the front.As it's warmed up though there's leaves from this thing erupting everywhere in the back where it used to be. Like 10 different spots it's coming up.What the fuck bros... this is not good
>>2550822Blackberries are invasive as all get out anon. You have to dig out the “heart” to kill them completely. Well okay, if you’re fastidious about cutting the runners off eventually the heart will starve out and die. Our land was completely covered with them when we bought it 4 years ago. They are a complete menace. Tasty berries, but a menace all the same
>>2550825blackberries are native to where i live :3
>>2550833I’m in Oregon too :) they still take over like hispanics though.
>>2550754These two are right if it is sun-burning.>>2550759>>2550760Drop your planets off for some amount of time in direct sunlight every day then take them back in. I leave my plants out for about an hour then take them back in. Alternatively, you can find out at which hour the sun dies down and put your plants an hour before that happens. So they can be out there all night, just remember to bring them back in. It's directly sunlight you gotta be worried about with how much time they spend out there. Ever go to the beach later in the day when the sun is going down? You almost never need sunscreen cuz you're not in full exposure to sunlight/UV rays. Same deal with plants.
Anyone know what's eating my mint?https://files.catbox.moe/n6vn6z.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/2fb5sg.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/d6m5rk.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/91whgb.jpg
>>2550865I don't see any bugs around like aphids and I checked most of the leaves, there are some flying things that kind of hang out near by and I'm very suspicious of them. They look like daddy long legs with wings. Also seems to be some sort of shit underneath some of the leaves but they don't look alive or like eggs
>>2550873does it look like this?
>>2550551don't worry I'm sure it's fine :-)It's raining so I can't make them today>>2550822Just use garden shears and cut them every time they grows leaves
>>2546947These are my plants, for the next 7-10 days it is going to be too cold to put them outside and it is going to be cloudy, should I get pic related or will they be fine? worried about Etiolation this early in there development.>>2547523The plastic is very thin and you can squeeze out the dirt.>>2550788very cool setup
>last order of seeds shipped yesterday and will likely be here saturday.The last seeds I am starting indoors will hopefully go in the ground this weekend aside from the seeds I plan on sowing outside like companion planted chives. That all being said I have realized I have bitten off more than I can chew space wise & light space wise once I need to transplant a bunch of plants here in a couple of weeks to larger containers however I shifted some shit around and I think I can make it work but it will be crowded.
>>2550719avoid mars hydro
>>2549928But what about growing soil anon, I want a food forest some day
>>2550900yes kind of
What are some positive insects I can try to encourage/introduce to my garden? I want to avoid using pesticides
>>2548524I need to grow some cabbages this year. The rabbits around here go nuts for them, and I don't mind sharing.
Designing myself a cheaper hoop house than the cheapest hoop houses commonly available. Any common problems I should be wary of?
>>2550643>Are they yellowing from bottom up? Could be over/ under wateringNo. Only the edges and tips. They are still saplings but I have been pruning the bottom and 'sick'(blight, fungus etc.) leaves.>nitrogen deficientAlright, I will try adding fertiliser. Thanks man.
>>2550519ended up planting some mini bell peppers, as there wasn't a ton of options for smaller vegetable plants at my local garden center. hoping it was a good choice, but I'll probably end up doing jalapenos or some other stuff anyways, so it hardly hurts to try.
>>2550986ladybugs are great along with lacewing. Both eat aphids thrips & spider mites.
How do I get rid of ants farming aphids on my plants?They've sucked two of my watermelons dry
Would crucifying a few grackles that come in my yard keep the others away? Killing them regularly keeps them wary, but inevitably I’ll catch them throwing other birds’ babies out of their nests. I hate those fucking scumbirds.
>>2551211Gotta put out any bait that they will take back to the nest and feed their queen(s) and pupae with so the colony dies. You can buy some at Walmart or Lowe’s or whatever large retail/hardware chain is near you.
>>2551211invest in an anteater
>>2550822Just make the best of it. Keep cutting them away where you don't want them and enjoy the berries. Raspberries are similarly aggressive. They grew into our garden from our neighbor, made their way under the wall. Now they're even in our raised beds. The roots go deep like you wouldn't believe.
>>2551211a month or so ago someone here in /HGM/ had a similar problem with ants and you can buy a type of fine or coarse grain cut corn meal I cant remember which and the ants will eat it/take it back to the hive and once they eat the corn meal it expands in their abdomens & kills them in mass. That or mix some Borax with sugar and water and mix till its a thickish paste and then leave that mix next to the ant nest and the problem will take care of itself.
If any of you know or believe in planting by the moon, will not following the calendar and planting things according to it actually make a difference?
Does anyone in the US have any metal raised bed recommendations? The ones I saw at home depot today were all wooden and looked fragile as fuck
>>2551268i see a lot of people using either horse troughs or cedar boxes with corrugated steel roofing sheets cut to lengths for the sides.dunno though, still sort of expensive, but they look good in the pintrest sort of way.
>>2551268Birdie's beds are really good but too pricey for me
>>2551268you can always make your own btwfew years back made a few out of 2x4s (non-pressure treated)basically a series of stacked rectangles tied at the corners with strong ties (though a pocket joint would work too)they lasted 3 or 4 seasons, as the wood decays it feeds the soil, so there's that.this year once we get a break in the weather going to fell some trees and make new beds out of logs though (think mini log cabins without a roof)
What's the best way for me to make use of my Christmas tree in my garden? I'm thinking of maybe chipping it for mulch, and maybe burying some bits deeper in the soil alongside kitchen scraps for the earthworms, as described in Building a Better World in Your Backyard.
>>25497224 days of pouring a bowl of water into the crack in the center a few times a day until today it finally stopped just bubbling away into the ground. The freeze thaw cycles over the next month probably won't have much effect on it, but this time of year I need something to keep me entertained.
>>2551428you need a chain saw and a maul anon
>>2551428sledgehammer & wedges are your friends anon.
>>2551428termites anon
>>2551467There were ants in there last summer. Maybe I shouldn't have killed them, but the backyard was developing a crazy amount of ant hills.
>>2551428dude you're pouring water literally into the dirt. You need a chemical stump killer. It basically dissolves the stump, then you can easily mulch it by hand.
>>2551428Its not really in the way. I have it cut flush to the ground, and put a paving stone and water fountain on it during the summer. Though there is a hump in the lawn around the stump.
>>2551428Blow it up!!
Which Apples should I plant?I think I can get 3 trees and I want to make cider and eat them
>>25515122 macs and a honeycrisp
>>2551512Find a nursery that does fruit trees, they'll have so many varieties you won't know what to get. But with the caveat that you have to get trees that have similar flowering and pollinating periods, otherwise you'll never get any fruit.
Is there any hope for my poor raspberry?I'm pretty sure it's sun burn, a couple of hours of direct sun is the only difference between it and its healthy friend in the other container.
>>2549318Just screw four boards together and fill it with growing medium. Don't listen when they tell you they will fall apart, that's a lie.
>>2551512Area? Apples don't really need chill hours but some varieties do better.
>>2551715Nah they do fall apart. I used to only have timber garden beds. Swapped to steel and i don't get back pain or have to swap out the walls often.
>>2549468I'm a Newfoundlander, my ancestors were hard as fuck. You have to be to live on this mausy rock.>>2549582I've become very curious to what to use for a "worm farm". A lot of the rubbermaid builds look bad, but most seem to function great. The wooden builds with the screened tiers look aesthetic, but bulky... I don't think I would buy a premade system, anon, but then again everything is like triple the price in Canada.>>2551715Thanks anon, that is the plan for this year; get some free pallets from a buddy, and build raised beds. I plan to make cages around the top to deal with birds and little red squirrels. The steel beds seem amazing (like Self Sufficient Me), but they're so pricey in Canada, and certain ones can leech metals into the soil... rotting out over time. At least with the wood, you can replace boards when the time comes.
>>2551754I use 2 of these on top of my other hungry bin worm farms. They're called worm cafes and they seem to be expensive over there. Here you get heavy discounts on them per household.Maybe construct something similar? The trays are just plastic tubs with holes on the bottom for worms/liquid to pass through. So maybe just use 3 buckets or tubs. drill a hole on the side of the lower portion of the liquid catch bucket (for a tap). Then for the feeding buckets/tubs drill holes on the bottoms for worms/liquid to pass through. Just use one for the meantime and just put food and bedding as required.. Then once you feel it's full or you want the worms to fully turn it or castings then stop feeding that tray and add the remaining bucket underneath as the new feeding tray and stop putting food in the original one. That way worms will finish feeding on it they move their way down to the new feeding trya as reuqiredI only use two layers though and I kind of do it in reverse where I make the bottom tray the "feeding one" then the top on as the "finished" tray. That way I feed the bottom and the left over worms in the top finish tray will filter themselves back down to the bottom feed tray. Which then leaves the finished tray with less worms and ready to scoop and use
>>2551575Seeing that it's in a 55 gal drum(?) and outside you probably just have to tough it out and hope it recovers. did you recently transplant them?
>>2542864here's an updated pic>>2543122I only water it maybe 2 times a day or whenever I see how dry the top is
So do you guys also discuss landscaping here, or is it pretty much just gardening?
>>2551870yip you can, feel free to get the sloppy seconds of the thread
>>2551767Thanks anon, I'm highly considering buying one, or even just making one like you stated. They seem to be a great way to get that black gold.What are your views on those large tumbler style composers? They've been catching my eye also. Creating soil, is my goal of this year, along with expanding my garden, and projects.
>>2551870holy shit anon, i honor and applaud what you're doing there, it's gonna look great.if only i had the talent, skill, and/or patience..
>>2547963This will be my fourth year growing garlic. I planted Elephant, Northern, Red Chesnok, Armenian, Music, and a unnamed softneck garlic.
>>2552017Eh well I'm an apprentice landscaper, so it isn't my garden and I do get paid for it (although way too little) I'm curious what the international trends are, plant ideas as since we're getting less and less rain, like to laugh at the French and shit like that.I never realized /out/ also discussed gardening until a recent thread on /k/ about weaponizing plants, so apologies for being new
>>2551870us poor people in Missouri do what you are doing but with ozark river/plateau rock. You do you anon so long as the masonry is sound it will be good.
>>2552011I used my council discount one year to get a tumbler. I didn't like it and I stopped feeding it. Somehow worms ended up in it so it's like another worm farm lol I prefer these >>2551767 worm cafes the most. Easy to maintain and when I hose it down I find the liquid that goes through it works as a really good fertilizer. It's what I use most than scooping the castings into my plants (I have two of these with 2 trays each)I'm not fully sold on this yet >>2549582. I guess I'll just use it for excess materials. Normally I would just put excess materials and garden waste in those regular on ground compost piles or compost bins. I'm lazy and don't turn them. I just rely on worms to make their way to it break things down lol.Another interesting thing I did to my garden beds was to pick up wide plastic cookie jars for cheap from thrift stores. Cut the bottom off and drill holes all over the the sides the bury it directly in the bed (somehwere easily accessible) right to the screw lid. Then would just open it up and put food scraps and shredded paper in and let the natural worms come in and out, break it down and distribute it around the bed Lol I really like worms desu
I planted some Daikon and it's supposedly getting close to harvest but the tubers are like maybe an inch wide at least from what I can seeDo they speed up the tuber growth towards the end or are these doomed?
>>2552043The Garlic God, I want to grow some this year what is your wisdom
>>2552046I want to do some light landscaping this year. I moved into this place with about 100 or so large smooth river stones all half buried and mossed over scattered all around. I gathered them all up and I plan on building two small raised beds off the concrete wall on the back of my house. It’s pretty shady but I’ll find something that does well in the shade to plant in them. I have designs on a pond but I think that’ll have to wait until next year.
>>2552046oof I hope you peed in that concrete mix if you want to grow plants there
Anyone know of a good 3ft tall plant stand that is long and rectangular? I have been looking, and everything is about 2ft tall only.
Is there anywhere I can read detailed small scale animal raising in the southwest with mix of native grasses and plants and other tough plants (even the controversial bermuda)?
I've used the same soil for a year now and I figure I need to replenish it in time for my plantings in a week or soI'm going to go to the garden centre and buy maybe 3 bags of commercial bagged compost, spread it on the garden beds and then spend a few hours digging it inIs this what everyone does? Aside from those who produce enough compost of their own? What's the use of manure?
>>2552207If you're into garlic this is a good book to check out. One thing I learned from experience is not to plant your garlic too early. You just want it to grow some roots then go dormant. Otherwise too early it'll send up a stem and act like a wick. Pulling mositure out of the clove and it'll die off. Also garlic needs vernalization in order to split into cloves. Thats why when garlic is planted in spring you end up with "rounds" and not cloved garlic come harvest time.Despite people claiming you can sell hardneck garlic for $24 a pound all the time. Most of the time you'll get $10-$16 a pound unless you live in a high demand area for hardneck garlic. Right now I sell mine for $12 a pound and no one bats a eyelash at the price.
>>2552240Well I did pee in the concrete mix, but wasn't thinking about plants... Also they'll be filled with substrate anyway and the lawn will be redone, considering that the soil is pretty heavy a pH increase shouldn't be much of a problem
dahlias sprouted, carrots sprouted, mizuna sprouted, spinach sprouted, mange tout sproutedlife is good
>>2552303Alright so I went to the garden centre and bought two bagsOne is like saw dust, quite light and doesn't have a smell the other is denser and looks like dark mud and smells, I assume only the smelly one is going to be useful but I got to use the other bag because I've already opened it...Still need to work out what manure is for
>>2549878If it's just for one year it doesn't matterI use ziplock bags and write on them with markers If you want to store them long term glass jars are the best, with a little packet of desiccant
>>2548700I live in a very short season areaEverybody here picks their tomatoes green and ripens them indoorsThe texture of the skin changes when they're readyThey go from mealy to shinyThey dont get as sweet though
>>2552207If you want to grow some the best thing is to wait till fall to do any planting. Otherwise you'll be disappointed with the size and yield. You can always plant the garlic in spring and replant the biggest in fall. The easiest ways of finding good seed stock for decent prices. Is to check facebook market place or ask around, and check farmer markets. Those ways are way cheaper than ordering online. Be wary of cheap seed garlic being sold online. I've seen alot of cheap seed garlic come with mites, fungus, or rot.You can always get hard, soft and elephant from the store to try and grow. But I don't know how hardy it is since almost of it is grown in california. As a experiment I did buy a bunch of elephant garlic from walmart to see how it does compared to the stuff I get from Indiana. Pretty much all hardnecks are extremely hardy except for the creoles. They do best in a warmer climate. Same as most softnecks. You can find cold hardy softnecks but there is only couple to choose from unlike hardnecks. You can help the garlic by covering it with 6"-8" of straw or mulched leaves to act as insulation from the cold. Just make sure you remove the straw/mulch come spring time. Also snow helps insulate the garlic.As to planting I mostly plant all the hard and soft necks 6" on center and in rows 8" apart. But with the elephant garlic I plant them 12" apart in rows 10" apart. Since the bulbs can get the size of a baseball.Saving the biggest "seed" will make huge bulbs to an extent. I've seen normal sized cloves make huge bulbs and huge cloves make tiny bulbs.I try to save the biggest for seed stock and sell medium sized ones. While keeping the small ones for cooking or to turn to garlic powder to sell to customers for extra profit.
>>2553316I've got a plastic bag full of cloves that were from my last harvestThe problem is that 99% of the cloves are small and so I'm wondering how much of a problem is it to plant these small cloves?If it isn't a huge problem I'd be happy to plant them but if it is I'll just throw them out and go to a garden store to buy seed garlic
I have a bunch of garden soil that I bought from a soil/mulch supplier and now I want to plant into it, the soil seems to be more sandy than clayey I sow my seeds and transplant my seedlings into the soil I then place some straw mulch on top of the seedlings and when the seeds sprout and get big enough I put mulch on them tooI'm using the mulch to keep watering requirements down on the hottest daysEvery 2 weeks or so I mix up some synthetic fertiliser and water my plants with itI harvest my plants and then I repeat the processIs there anything I should be adding or changing about this routine? I don't care about organic produce
>>2553324If they're still good I'd give them a try.
First time I've found this board, seeing lots of seed packets and such I'm no pro or anything but I grow heirloom fruit and veg native to my area (England) stick em in at the rightish times and let nature do the rest and sacrifice a little to nature and a little to next season's seeds. Don't overthink it
>>2553911Unfortunately you kinda just have to google a lot of info. You can buy heirloom seeds and plant them. Get some nice potting soil or compost from your garden center and a container of some sort. Thats either a large enough pot for your desired plants, or a raised bed in the garden/yard with sufficient sun. I'm not sure what is native to England but just about anything can be grown anywhere with the right sun, soils, watering, and fertilizer. If your goal is to use the soils currently in your back yard you'd have to do further research as to what soils you currently have and what normally grows well. Your specific lattitude has a "grow region" (see OP for region info) and every seed packet should tell you ideal times to plant seeds based on that growing region and suggest ideal amounts of sun, but most plants like "full sun". If you have a local nursery nearby or know the garden/home improvement store has a decent employee you could chat them up and ask what grows well and would be easy for a beginner to tend to. What I've learned is most plants are as simple as good soil, put seed in, keep it moist until it sprouts. Water when necessary, give ample sunlight, occasional fertilizer, and a few months of waiting. Like you said, stop overthinking it. Humans have been planting and growing shit for thousands of years. At worst you waste a few bucks learning how to plant stuff.
>>2549582I use two five gallon buckets. Top bucket has small holes for drainage and larger holes in the lid for aeration. Worm tea goes into the bottom bucket and into bottles. Every couple of months I get out gloves and a tarp and separate worms and scraps from the castings and the castings get sprinkled in the garden. I haven't felt the need to automate any of this. I feel like if I had a fancy worm bin I'd get lazy, stop giving a fuck, and the thing would go anaerobic.
>>2551428Make a fire on top of the stump and just let it smolder.
