any one go out in israel? negev season is almost over soon i will have to move northward
looks like a desert shithole.blessed holy land my asswhy would anyone want to live in such a barren infertile wasteland
>>2545810that pic is from elat witch is the souther tio of the country by eygpt and technicly not halachich israel, the rest of the country dosnt look like that, this is a pic i took up in the golan heights a few weeks ago i got snowed on
>>2545810>why would anyone want to livemainly what drove me to move here was my dislike of american culture witch is centered on gays and blacks to things i dont like, better sense of comunitie here as well hitch hikeing is still a thing
>>2545814>theres a few green spots>its still 95% desert shitholewow really showed me
>>2545817only 60% is desert the outher 40% is not, and the coastline is amazeing the only parts of america with compreble beaches are hawaii and south florida even still were better than them cuase no huricanes
>>2545796How expensive is Israel compared to California, specifically for traveling on the cheap? Campgrounds, easily prepared food from grocery stores, showers, bus fares, etc. Is Israel safe for Christians to travel in?
>>2545849>How expensive is Israel compared to Californiain california i would pay 11 usd for a burger here it 20 plus usd amd its a smaller burger>Campgroundsi have only done despersed camping without amenities in the time ive been here minus one time i stayed in a tent cabin but i didt pay for that i just walked up on it saw it was empty and moved into it>easily prepared food from grocery storesgrociry is not that dofrent from the states exept for price again everything is more expensive and theres less chains here and more mom n pop type shops>showersdwellings have running water uts not afroca but when i camp i take a pocket shower>bus faresnot to bad actualy, public transportation here kicks ass the only anoying thing is you cant pay in cash you need to get a rav kav card and load money onto it>Israel safe for Christians to travel in?yes just dont be a dick about misionizeing and people will leave you alone
>>2545796Sinai peninsula. And a day-hike in Haifa. Close enough?
>>2545814Looks kind of like rural Spain to me. I remember hiking in areas around Asturias that resemble this landscape (minus the Hebrew brew)
>>2545814>that’s not proper Israel>instead, here’s a photo of the Golan Heights Kek, I don’t think you even see the irony in that
>>2545850lol of course everything is more expensive in Israel.
>>2545914Israel is simply too build up to my liking. Yes, you have a few areas where you can kinda feel alone but the lack of biodiversity doesnt make it feel very inviting. Lebanon got better areas for hiking. I am sure there are beautiful spots around Israel but there are so many better options
>>2545796Hi man. It looks like the surface of the moon to me, but I'd do a night there if I had to. I'd look for a place with green nature to enjoy.
Why the fuck would you post your face on 4chan
>>2546481>incapable of loving nature.i love anture and have my whole life i was tuaght to by my father who waited exactly two weeks from the time i was born to start takeing me out camping in the deser>>2546652we have that up north>>2546752ive been doing it on pol for years started becuase i got tired of people saying jews look x way
Being a settler seems like a pretty /out/ lifestyle to me. If I was Jewish I would do that. Go squat on a mountain somewhere in Palestine, build myself a shack, and try to be as self sustaining as possible(except of course protection from the natives by the IDF).
>>2548780idf protects arabs from us
>>2545819Lol this looks very kinky
What the fuck happened to this thread.Op, even though i'm incredibly antisemitic, that looks rather comfy. Have you ever considered a dual sport motorcycle go go further out?
>>2545796>Go /out/ in Israel.>Gets hit with a rocket.Nah I'd rather not.
>>2549994>considered a dual sport motorcycli want an old xr 250 i grew up rideing dirt bikes
>roams the stolen land
>>2550573cant steal something belongs to you
What are the chances of getting hit by Palestinian weapon shrapnel? The Iron Dome can only do so much.
>>2545849>will a country of jews charge fair prices?
>>2550651>weapon shrapnelid be more woryd about getting shot or stabbed
>>2545816This is what brown skins are fighting over? I’ve seen better landscapes in bumfuck Oklahoma Lmao
i hiked the length of jordan back in 2019, not israel, but kinda similar.
>>2551784much of jordan is technicly israel the ileigaly ocupied east bank
This feels like larp from how retarded OP is typing while pretending to be someone who came from America. Post photo with timestamp
>>2545814anon that's Palestine
>>2552506no such country exist
>>2552497אז מה הקטע עם האנגלית שלך? אתה כותב כמו מפגר I've been doing trails near where I live. Feels good, but wouldn't call it /out/doors. There's always a gas station nearby to resupply. I'd like to do the national trail someday.
>>2552542>אז מה הקטע עם האנגלית שלך? אתה כותב כמו מפגרi dont spell check my post and im typeing them out on a phone>national trail someday.me to i dont have a car or to much free time so ive only done litle excersions so far, pic is my freind walking up the road behind me madrigot junction dead sea
>>2552599>madrigotmetsoke dragot junction waiting for the bus to elat right now gonna go to sinai tomorow
>>2552599A car is nice. Doing Shvil Israel in parts instead of the entire 1k km in one go is valid. Watch yourself when you hitchhike, this year has been spicy and Arabs are platinum mad. Nearly Intifada levels of butthurt. Feb-early March is Kalaniot season. Have you visited any place with them?
>>2552604>Watch yourself when you hitchhike,i will be carefull >Kalanioti have not seen them yet but i will keep my eyes open much of the country i have still not explored, right now im in yeshivah in yerushalime so that takes most of my time but im considering leaving it and moveing out to gush etzion and that will give me more time for hikeing and camping untill i get drafted
>>2552604>Arabs are platinum mad. Nearly Intifada levels of butthurt.also fuck palirats spent two days camped out right here over purim גולדשטיין הצדק
>>2552617Yeah you do have yeshiva vibes. Good for you that you enjoy that community. Best to stay with these people if you dislike American culture. It's a pretty Americanized country outside religious communities. I'm from a pretty trad right leaning town and even here's there's gay parades
>>2552625dont get me wrong i hate america and love the haredim but so far my favorite people here whom ive interacted with are the people who live in hebron, im not a city person at all my dream in comeing here was to move to a rural religouse settlement and raise sheep after i complete my army service
>>2552625do you know anything about the sinai im going tomrow with some freinds and in wondering if i will have to tuck in my tzitzit and im woried they may take my teffilen
>>2552637Dunno. I've never been. Ask your friends.
>>2552643thanks any ways אחי
>>2551784I'm assuming you hiked the Jordan Trail. How well blazed is it? I would appreciate a detailed answer.
>>2552919Yeah it was the JT, back then it was sporadically marked, the north 1/4 was pretty well marked, then they pretty much stopped. The south involved some cross country and unmarked travel. I have no idea whether that has improved or not. The trail notes then were kind of useless and topo maps of the country are hard to come by. If I were to go back I wouldn't hike the northern half, I would probably do a Levant Horseshoe, starting in Dana, hike the JT south to Aqaba, then cross over into Israel and hike the southern half of the INT.All in all it was a fun hike, took me 14 days from the Syrian border to the red sea. But the first half involved too much road walking for me. Resupply and water were easy to manage for me as I was moving between water sources well enough. The food available was pretty limited but if you aren't a picky eater it's fine. I didn't use a stove and only pitched my tarp once.
>>2552951Poor donkeh :(
>>2552951moab looks bueatifull, unfortunantly im am visbly jewish and keep kosher so im not sure how safe or practical it would be for me to travel extensivly there
>>2552970>unfortunantlyi mean its unfortunant that i would not be amble to source kosher food and that people might harm me becuase of my ethno religin
>>2552970>>2552971I'm not sure what keeping kosher entails, but I didn't eat any meat while I was jordan. No one asked me my faith or anything like that. However, there was certainly an anti-Israeli vibe there.>moabfunnily enough I was in Moab in Utah last year to start the Hayduke, that was like Jordan but on steriods!
>>2552951Thanks for your response lad. What about recharging devices? Is it easy without staying in guesthouses?
>>2545796Oy vey this thread again?
>>2552993I'm not a big electronics user while hiking so it was easy enough for me to just plug my phone in while resupplying and let it charge while I got something to eat. I think at the time I had a cats41 or whatever, which had a 5kmha battery. So with minimal usage it easily lasted 4-5 days and the JT never had me away from a plug for more than like 3 days at a time.
>>2552972>keeping kosher entaits a butch basicly i cant eat any bread or meat from there would have to bring all of it myself, also my clothing gives my religon away and wrapping teffilen every morning when i pray, just got back from sinai was good and aside from a copy of mine kampf i saw in a store i did not feel any hostility
>>2545819you tried to hide it in other threads, but i knew you were a kike all along.
>>2553799So how was it? Are the beaches in Sinai really that great as people say? Did you drink איילנד there or is it not the drink of Sinai beaches like it's advertised in Israel.
>>2554453i never hid it >>2554664>So how was it?it was great, very cheap there, all the shops and resprts cater to israli tourist every one speaks hebrew and you can buy alchol, the beaches were good not realy dufrent from elat just way cheaper >איילנדdont know what that is i drank beer water and fruite smoothies mainly guava and mango, 75 sheckles for three of is to stay here for a night
>>2554762>fruite smoothies mainly guava and mangoYeah.I guess you had the original stuff
>>2555001got kicked out of yeshivah need to find a place to camp untill i find a house to rent, any recomendations almost definantly gonna be somewere in the south
>>2555050Go back to the yeshiva and apologize for whatever retarded shit you've done. This isn't the US. You cannot camp without some some boomer in a white pickup truck shining a torch at you in the middle of the night asking to see ID
>>2555052ill show the faggpt my id then, i canped 3 nights right below ein getti illeigal as ffuck the ranger must of seen me to cuase i watched his car go down the road every morning no one bothered me there, i think im gonna take the bus to mizpe romoan and ealk a couple thousand feet into the desert and set up that way ill be close enough to get food and water, hopefully ill be able to find a place to rent soon
>>2555054Don't be retarded. You didn't fly to Israel to be a desert hobo. I don't even know how Bedouins you'll meet there will treat you. Probably definitely feel sorry for your stupidity. Renting isn't so simple, there's a lot of bureaucracy and you need a job, security cheques and guarantors. Online shit like airbnb and booking is overpriced and not a long term final solution. Be a good boy, go back to the yeshiva program and do your pre-army academy, serve your years and work from there. Go ask help from the people you know in preson from your program instead of looking for buddies on 4chan. Are you sure you're not trolling, because this is next level stupidity
>>2555067i actualy did come here to be a sheep hearder in the shomron but that beside the point, the yeshivah made me promise not to drink and i fucked up on the agreement multuple times no cance i could salvahe it, if i cant find a place to rent out in gush ezion in a few weeks i will find another yeshivah, but im gonna be liveing in a tent for at leadt a week or two, think ill set uo just ouside mizpe romoan close enough to get food and water, wont be so bad at all
>>2555067>Are you sure you're not trolling, because this is next level stupiditypostive im not tolling will post pics when i set up, i grew up camping alot to me its as good as haveing a room
>>2555097>will post picsit is with great difuculty i finaly set my tent up in the wind and dark
>>2555252bro i got here well after dark and dont rey know the terain, also forecast calls for rain, and im planning on liveing here for at least two weeks im legit homeless right now, i consider haveing been able to set it up given the weather a success took a while cuase of the wind, to celibrate i now endavor to drink six macabe, markets close early so i had to walk all the way across mizpe romoan and back saw a fox could not get a pic sadly but it was cool
>>2555259only drank two
>>2555413three forgot about the one on theway here aither way failure and i spilled some insode the tent and got the sleeping bag wet shit sucked, better on from here
>>2555415I once knocked over one of those green propane tanks with a little burner on top while running boiling water for some rice inside my tent. Melting a good chunk of floor... Could be worse.
>>2555416>Could be worsemy philosophy exatly, going into town now to get supplys and charge my phone at the chabad
Would love to. What's the language barrier like, Any jew anons wanna guide me?
>>2555457Go walk the INT for an intro.
the little drops of water running off the seams of the tent suck
>>2555457You can easily get by if you speak English.
>>2555052>You cannot camp without some some boomer in a white pickup truck shining a torch at you in the middle of the night asking to see IDThis is blatant misinformation. Nobody will bother you.
>>2555488I I assume you have plenty of money if you can afford these beers? I am now emotionally invested in your arc. Hope you're doing well. Have you considered hiking the Shvil?
>>2552951Is the JT blazed in both directions?
>>2555508>plenty of moneyi have enough for a while untill i can make an apointment with misrad haklita, ive thought about doing a section of the shvil but i dont think i will right now, im hopeing to be able to find a place to rent within a two weeks and get back to normal life, i got an email today from the gush etzion imigration cordinator they sent me some links to go thru and told me to ask on face book groups if any one there has a place available
>>2555516There are many Shvil Trail Angles you can find online, they provide people with a place to stay for a night or more. Maybe that's something for you. So you are an American that's emigrating to Israel solo? Do you have a job lined up? What was the original plan with Yeshiva?Sorry for being so nosey, I'm just quite interested.
>>2555521>So you are an American that's emigrating to Israel solo?yes, technicly i already emigrated got citezenship on the first of march>Do you have a job lined upno orginaly i was just gonna stay at yeshivah untill i got drafted and then figure out what to do after i got out of the idf, but now i will have to figure something else out, most likely i wipl find another yeshivah or try and volunteer on a farm out in the teritories in exchange for housing, just now posted on a gush eztion facebook page inquiring about renting a place hopefully i get a good response
>>2555488>>2555259Man. Getting kicked out of your program for a shitty piss lager. Fuck. If I was doing the whole orthodox religious thing, I'd just not drink alcoholic at all if I can't have something nice.
>>2555525Your situation doesn't sound that bad, I'm sure you'll find some work for stay.
>>2555510The first 1/5 was, but then they stopped all together. Could be different now though.
>>2555574>orthodox religiousmany drink alot mostly hard alchol bourbon vodka and arach but also wine and beer, the issue was that the yeshivah thought i was an alcholic and forbade me from drinking i got cuaght drinking multiple times and finaly i got the boot>>2555656>sound that badits not>I'm sure you'll find some work for stay.thanks im confodent it will work out for me good eventualy and i have no issue liveing in a tent untill it dose just wish it would stop raining cause the tent i have is not perfectly water proof
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@2555693lmao dude, I've still got mine
Very beautiful looking country. Happy for you anon.
>>2545796no. fuck israel and fuck its existence>let the sand digganobs have it.
>>2550644jews dont even own there foreskin how the fuck do you think they rightfully own israel.
>>2555709*stark is a kike invention of the post WWII settlements as part of a Rothschild payout from Churchill’s debts. The Lord Jesus destroyed the temple mound and Emperor Titus razed the rest to the ground. The wailing wall is a remnant of an old Roman Barracks. Jews are evil and should be hunted down to the last and killed like the vermin they are
OP might as well commit to doing the national trail then, instead of being a degenerate drunken desert hobo
>>2555850>national trailim consodering mabey if i still havnt found an alartment after pesach
>>2555912You aren't going to find an apartment. Do the shvil now, go to a different yeshiva or return to your old one. Stop drinking.
>>2555955if i start the shvil all have to stop for pesach any ways, im hopeing to go to my cousins for seder, i will provably just find another yeshivah, i do not have a drinking problem.[this morning i atenpted to cook breakfest like this wind kept blowing out stove moved it to tent spilled vurned a very small patachle hole in the bottom of tent, wnt back outside stacked rocks made a wind break for cooking outside, but didt boil eggs long eniugh and they were not cooked thru oh well at least i had my insta noodles and can make more egss when i get back from the dead sea tonight
met a freind at dead sea stayed to late to catch a bus crashing here for the night in a tent cabin some one built on the shore of the sea comfy but lots of masquitos
>>2555969>i do not have a drinking problem>empties spilling out of tentKek
>>2545796I did many years ago when Israel was a good bet for fun 'n' gun trips.
>>2556196those are not empties their full and their the same three left over from the six i bought my first night if i had a drunking problem theyd all of been drunk the forst night, unrelated my freind recomended me to check out a yeahivah in yitzhar
>>2556197>Israel was a good bet for fun 'n' gun trips.whats changed?
>>2556200They were banned, attracting the wrong sort of tourist. And I have to say, I was on two and both had at least one psycho in the party.
>>2556198You're alright mate I'm just having a laugh
>>2556209ist it just takeing a group to a shooting ramge, as some one who used to cc ever were i went back in the states i dont see how it could be an issue physcos or not, unless it something else im not understanding>>2556211כל טוב
>>2545816>"better sense of community here"Yeah maybe for all the jews in their homogeneous ethno-state. I guess when you all believe in the same supremacist genocide victim-porn religion, it's easier to stick together
>>2545849Israel loves Christians, you guys lick the dust off their feet and pick their grapes for them (but you're not allowed to actually process the grapes because your impure goy hands will make the wine unkosher). Christians give credence to their "religion" that says all jews are sons of God and chosen by God to be a light for all the gentiles, which is really funny when you run into the "anti-semitic" Christians.
>>2556220>homogeneous ethno-state. Iisrael is none of those things
>>2555710>Jews are evil and should be wiped out!>This is why we need to worship a jew and believe in the Jewish holy book and holy land!This is your brain on Abrahamism
>>2556223Just wait, after they successfully sterilize all the Ethiopian jews and finish killing the Palestinians it will be the homogeneous ethno-state they have always dreamt of.
>>2556221You know, I'm not a bigot. I like learning about other people's perspectives. One thing about Judaism is that it really is a supremacists religion. The more you learn about its history the more it makes sense. It's incredible they've been able to keep their religion so consistent, but wow wow wow does it teach them to see themselves as a superior race. It's honestly fucked up. These little orthodox kids with their fucked up teeth and weirdly pasty complexions are afraid to talk with you because of the shit they're being indoctrinated with. It's all just made up human bullshit all the way from t op to bottom. There is no hidden esoteric truths that Judaism conceals. It just keeps the kids so busy being indoctrinated that they never develop a true understanding of the outside world. Works incredibly well in keeping tradition alive. But fuck man it creates some incredibly weird behavior that honestly doesn't feel right. It's too grossly human. There's no real god or salvation in these human rituals. Just indoctrination into a system that limits your behavior with unquestioned ritual.
>>2556227>sterilize all the Ethiopian jewsi wish but its not happening and even without arabs and fake jew ethiopians we still wouldt be homogenouse or an ethnostate something like a million russian goyim live here plus all the difrent kinds of actual jews
>>2556229you dont no what your talking about fuck off back to pol were you belong nigger
>>2556234I dunno man, having these little orthodox kids running around the store until they see me, then act scared and run to their papa, it's honestly alien. This is my perspective dealing with an orthodox population in my community. Even the amish are more normal acting. Orthodox jews cloister themselves off in weird ways and their religion literally teaches them they're the chosen people. You don't really say jack shit or offer anything besides denial. All religion is purely made by humans btw. I don't care how old your scrolls are, they were thought of and written by men.
>>2556239>This is my perspectiveof course your outside looking in, and even more you dont belive in g-d so theirs nothing to say to you
>>2556241Exactly. There's nothing to say to you because you can't see outside your very, very tiny perspective. It's also why you can't directly challenge anything I say. You don't have a good answer. You haven't figured out any response because you're forbidden from even thinking about it. It's sad to see. Yes, I'm on the outside. Looking in? It's fucked. The orthodox especially like it that way. They get to abuse their families and not be challenged by good people because they're protected by their community.
>>2556247nothing to chalemge i belive my religon comes from g-d you belive its fully man made neither of us can prove our viewpoint impericly so were at an impass and thats how it stays
>>2556241You have actively said some really fucked up shit about other populations. You've acted like a bigot in this thread then shout /pol/. You're a coward.
>>2556252Uh, it was written by humans that were given magic words to write down. Anyone, absolutely anyone can claim that. Just because it happened 2000 years ago doesn't make it any more valid. Having institutions that last that amount of time is what's more impressive. "I have faith" is easy to say when you clamp your hands over your ears and cover your eyes. Then you get to claim anyone that points these things out is evil, you get to discard them without giving thought to their words, because those words too are "evil". That kind of behavior is proof of how old this religion is, because holy shit the only people who can abide by that are people without thinking skills aka troglodytes. If you took a population Jewish children and raised them Christian it wouldn't make a difference, except that Christianity doesn't have such a strangle hold on its participants. I'm done with you here. It's just sad. What are you running from? Hell. Your whole story is sad. You're a lone boy fucking up trying desperately to get by. Just a normal person. You're probably too fucked up to even think of a full thought at this point. Literally scraping by.
>>2556253im openly racist your a jew hateing cuck you belong eith your kind on pol>>2556254i was not born religouse i grew up and relized the corect path witch is to walk in the ways of my creator
>>2556229This is the best take on the issue. Most of these jews aren't consciously evil, they are just brainwashed by their pedo elite rabbis in to believing that the whole world hates them and wants them dead because they're specially chosen by god to be the best (if not only) humans on earth. It takes a bunch of goobers and hammers them in the head with victim-porn fear-porn genocide stories, and then lets them out into the world to fuck with everyone. Most jews are just as controlled and brainwashed as the majority of goyim are. This "religion" hurts everyone. Good luck trying to criticize it tho, because everyone has been programmed to think that "criticism of Israel/Judaism = you want to kill all jews and smash their baby's heads on the rocks." It's fucking sick
>>2556233Lol "russian goyim" you mean ashkenazi jews who moved to russia and returned to israel?
>>2556241Yea and you are inside looking out from your supremacy cult. Most goyim don't even want to deal with jews, and yet you guys try to nose your way into our business, and then you cry victim when we say or do anything about it. Judaism teaches you to be an olympic-level crybully. Just mind your own business and let us mind ours.
>>2556241I genuinely hope a Palestinian kills you
>>2556370What? Christianity was made by jews, the first Christians were jews, Christ was a circumcised practicing jew (who was called rabbi by his followers), the first half the bible is the Old Testament, it sees Israel as the holy land, Christ says that salvation is from the jews, etc. etc. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see it.
>>2556375You would have to be a joke to ignore the exhortations of “synagogue of Satan” and the basic human understanding that Christ came specifically to correct the MANY abuses, excesses and futile garbage the priestly class of Jews had been bandying about by fulfilling their prophecies and raising their understanding - but no, they killed Him for His trouble. The Almighty took the worst batch of humans this planet had to offer, granted them unbelievable victories over insurmountable odds to show even they, the last of their race, that it is in Hisnsign they conquer and what do they do? Kill his humanity inasmuch as they could and write thousands of years of fa fiction to explain that THEY really outstsmarted Him when you think about it. Absolute filth. 109 countries can’t all be wrong.
>>2556376Christianity is jew-worship par excellence, all of the hostility from Christians is controlled opposition to make you look like the bad guy and the j's look like the poor victim, and you claim to hate jews while simultaneously worshipping the king of the jews. The synagogue of satan verse is clearly a red herring to make the "bad" jews look like they aren't really jews. So who are the real jews then? What do they believe? Why does everything in their holy book happen to coincide with what the "fake" jews are doing? How can you hate jews while calling them fake jews (that you also hate)? Christianity is Judaism's golem that it uses to conquer the world, so they need to provoke persecution from them once in a while to make it look like Christianity is the ultimate opposition to their game when really you guys are their soldiers and slaves. All those jews who got tortured and killed? Probably dumb peasants who were in the wrong place at the wrong time. The elite jews love to send the common jew as cannon fodder so they can get extra victim points, and scare all their flock into sticking together and hating their "oppressors."
>>2556376Here's some zingers for yaMatthew 5:17-19"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."John 4:22"You worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews."
>>2556376Here are some more based redpillsMatthew 10:35-37"For I have come to turn‘a man against his father,a daughter against her mother,a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law —a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me."Matthew 5:38-40"But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well."Matthew 5:43-48"You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighborand hate your enemy.’But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be childrenof your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get?Are not even the tax collectors doing that?And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect."Luke 14:26“If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.Galatians 3:28"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus."
>>2556384>>2556386I can cherry pick too, but I bet you won’t continue either. Long story short: Jews are a half-race acursed race from the moment the Blood of Christ was spent “upon us and upon our children”. There no “good” or “bad” Jews. The fulfillment of the Law is the abolition of all tenants of man made ritual Judaism and the unwavering devotion to being “neither Jew or Greek” in theNew Covenant. Everything, EVERYTHING about the old covenant is gone. Done. Complete. Irrelevant. The Talmud and every single Rabbi, without exception, temporally after Christ is anethema and steeped in damnation. Your Schofield Study Bible commentary has no sway over me. You will be damned and the Palestinians you displace will inherit salvation before you.
>>2556285Yes yes, you're very sure in this. That's why you've actually devoted yourself to it. No. You've made half assed decisions and half assed the efforts. You made some decisions you had to stick to but you don't actually have the conviction to follow the path you've chosen. You've already fucked around a ton. You obviously aren't fully committed. You get fucked up and force yourself to believe so that you have a purpose and reason in life, but you know it's a larp. You know it's all a larp. But fuck you've already committed so much. You've lived like shit, though that's kinda fun so it's not a big deal, but look yourself in the eyes in a mirror my man. I don't hate you. I don't have anything against you. I've just been reading what you write. You're lost. You thought you found a purpose but come on man, how much did it really change? How much have you changed? Are you capable of being honest with yourself? Or is it more comforting to lose yourself in a larp that you can at least cling to and convince yourself of eternal salvation. It's certainly easier to convince yourself when you go to a country full of people who must believe or be shunned from society. I don't even give a shit about what you believe. It's just so obvious you're a hateful, lonely, lost guy. It's okay.
>>2556285Don't be racist while being a horrible example of your people. It's insulting to everyone witnessing you. Kinda sad.
>>2556362I hate that I share air with you. I can't make real critiques on Judaism because you worms come out and act like shit heads. If anything you're helping the people you hate by being so retarded. I wouldn't be surprised if you were doing it on purpose. You come into a discussion about say, gang culture and how it hurts black communities. You butt in and say yeah, if black people weren't such evil black bastards this wouldn't happen. Then we can't have a discussion about the actual problems because it'll devolve into racist garbage. Get better at this.
>>2556391Okay I'll say it againMatthew 5:17-19"Think NOT that I am come to DESTROY the LAW, or the PROPHETS: I am not come to DESTROY, but to FULFILL. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one JOT or one TITTLE shall in NO wise pass from the law, till all be FULFILLED. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."John 4:22"You worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for SALVATION IS FROM THE JEWS."So please tell me how I'm cherry picking or misinterpreting these crystal-clear verses
>>2556397Uh are you responding to the right person? Because I pretty much said what you are saying
>>2556401You are speaking with hatred towards Judaism. I don't hate Judaism. You speak like you believe there is some grand Jewish cabal. I don't believe there is. They're pretty obvious with their shit, like the orthodox jews that took over a neighborhood in New York and systematically removed non jews from their community. NPR did a huge story on it, if you're that worried about cabals. In my community they all look sickly pale with really bad teeth. The children are afraid of strangers. It's just sad. Jews are regular people like everyone else. They just have a powerful, oppressive religion like Islam. It sucks since you can't make a comment due to the people who actually hate them. I hate the people who hate them. I don't hate jews.
>>2556398Fulfill = supersede. To make clear that which was intentionally muddied by generations of power seeking hypocrites. >fromYes, from. Past tense. No longer have a valid reason to exist. Neither Jew nor Greek etcJust to use your own verses specifically
>>2556406>I don't hate Judaism>They just have a powerful, oppressive religion like Islam.That's my point though. I don't hate jews, I hate Judaism. That stupid religion takes those innocent pasty fucked-up-teeth kids and turns them into xenophobic assholes who try to take over entire neighborhoods. They wouldn't be doing any of this shit if it wasn't for their holy book that says they are chosen by god and everyone hates them. Just like how none of these hajis would be blowing themselves up and taking over villages if it wasn't for their gay ass iron age death cult. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
>>2556406Sorry, I am projecting a bit. It's just you need to be kind and careful when talking about such things. Otherwise you really are no better than those who actually hate and murder jews. You'll be confused with them and ruin everything. Sorry I was pretty mean.
>>2556410Wild mental gymnastics here. You guys will say anything to save your jewish death cult
>>2556416>>2556414Sorry, you get it. And OP. Power to you man. I meant every word I said. Take a good look at yourself. You seem to be getting lost in the weeds of a pretty hardcore larp. That's part of why you have people calling you based.
>>2556418>I hate Jews “You must secretly love Jews”Fuckin’ ok dude
>>2556422Tell me about it. Pretty confusing isn't it?
>>2556425Yeah, and then this is said by white supremacists that need a good long look in the mirror as well. If I were to stoop to your level I'd say white supremacists have learned a thing or two from jews. Isn't that something.
>>2545816>>Dislike of american culture>>which is centered on gays and blacksoh, you mean the culture created by jews?
>>2556427It’s not. Not in any way, shape or form. 2000 years of Christ history has unequivocally denounced the leftover adherents to Judaism, the world over, but somehow some (((study commentary))) shows up in the early developed American period to conflate the modern Jew with the Ancient Israelite and what do you know? Uniquely American Zionism is born.I know it’s a plot by you and yours. Know that I hate it and I do not care how many verses, creeds or interpretations you throw at me, I will always hate you as your ancestors took His blood upon yourselves and your children. My sons are not circumcised, my money will not go to “save elderly starving Ukrainian Jews” my money may be laundered through a hideous and world spanning machine to hedge the margins into your ill gotten country’s coffers but I will never feel anything it absolute and complete contempt for you and yours forevermore.I hope your negro pets tore of shabbos duty and kill you, rape your daughters and commit the same terror you would have them do to my race upon yours
>>2556433Alright anyways enjoy worshipping jews
Wew lad. Me, I'm more concerned with how they let a retard like OP conceal carry back in America.
>>2556478How did you end up wrapped up in this psychotic bullshit? Fuck off. You ruined it. You're garbage. I'm garbage. It's all fucked. How the hell did you get so deranged that this is what you focus on? Just for a reaction? These are real people you're talking about.
bring a gunthose palestinian goy will keep tossing stones at you for rightfully settling in your promised landfuck them
>>2555693amen. if I went to Israel it wouldn't be to camp LMAO
>>2556363no i mean russian goyim, very few actual ashkenazim in the world>>2556368>Most goyim don't even want to deal with jewand i want nothing to do with gentiles thats why i moved across the world >>2556393>being a horrible example of your people.how am i a horible example of my people?>>2556419im just not gonna abandom my culture and traditons vaxie sory not sory>>2556507i will get a gun when i joine the idf, till then i cant get one new imigrants here usualy have to wait 5 years till they can get a permit for a gun
made it back to my camp,it is as i left it exept for some aninal psibly jackal prints on the sides of my tent, i got a lead about a 1680nis a month apartment out in elazar i am following up on amd tomrow i would like to go check out the yeshivah in yitzhar, i will eat beans and cut up hot dogs today
>>2556631>tomrow i would like to go check out the yeshivah in yitzharjust made plans to go check out the apartment in elazar tomrow
opend tent right now saw a jackal, its still hanging out like 100 meters from me
>>2556638thing must of just dug up my shit next time i palce to rocks over the hole
>>2545796Israel is a shithole.
>>2556664its the best country on earth i left the nicest part of america to live here and have 0 regrets about it
>>2556642Pick up your toilet paper, you filth. You said you like this country, then why are you shitting up the nice desert.
>>2556682i reburied it and placed three big rocks on it see the two rocks to the left of that pic thats a shit i took a few days ago and it hast been dug up, i didt think i needed as many rocks this time and i was wrong but its been corected, im very respectful of nature everywere i go pack it in pack it out
thinking of going in late summer or September, would be keen to camp a few days especially near kineret. Go to some nature parties
>>2556737You speak like someone who knows. Israel has its own Burningman type even, maybe that could be something that interests you.
>>2556741Event*, called Midburn.
>>2556737the kineret is nice in general the north is the best part of the country
>>2556667It's a shithole but I think you fit right in.
>>2545796Israel more like the holocaust is not real
>>2545796>any one go out in israel?ask most american jews, they go on their "birthright" trip which is a guided tour
>>2556973Funny fact, that's how h3h3 Ethan Klein got his horselike wife. She was a soldier instructor for one of those programs.
>>2556978i dont no who that is, makeing breakfest now three harboild eggs instant noodsles and some suasage, then going to the gush will wrap tefilin and daven on the bus, excited to check out the apartment
>>2545796Looks nice. I was in Israel recently. Do not fucking like tel aviv. The population density is horrific. Wouldn't be as bad if the arabs shitting it up didn't make the place 10x worse. That Goldstar stuff is pretty good though. And the jews all spoke English and were friendly.
>>2556393nah, he's just a normal example of his people, which happen to be horrible
>>2557003the problem with tel aviv besides the leftist חלונים is all the blacks without them it would be ok, in general this whole country has way to many blacks
>>2557003>That Goldstar stuff is pretty good thoughIt completely shits on a lot of imported European stuff. It is nice. OP is a retard. I bet he's not actually going to serve in the IDF or is going to drop out within the first two weeks because it's not orthodox enough for him or whatever. Drunken fucktard can't be bothered to even proofread his posts.
>>2557048>OP is a retardno i am not>he's not actually going to serve in the IDFi am a man of extreme determination i most certainly will serve in the idf baring some freak acident were in i become a criple[hast vashalom]>not orthodox enough fori get along fine with people who are not religouse>Drunkeni dont drink that much>proofreadwhy should i bother there still legible to any good english speaker and this is th eonly non larp thread on this whole crappy board
We have a /pol/ containment board. Why can't we have a /heeb/ containment board aswell?
>>2557099it wouldt get enough post to justify its extistence
>>2557072I genuinely hope you are killed during your service, squatter. You and your whole race are an invasive species and it is the shame of every other race in this world that you have not yet been exterminated
>>2556741>>2556742Im from the land but I been in Canada a long time. I'll definitely check it out maybe some of my homies will come.Are u gonna go anon?Every winter I start thinking of moving and OP is making me really jealous
>>2557153move back אחי הגוים זה לה טוב
>>2557072Buddy, you're digging a hole that leads to nowhere. The more you invest in the religion the more you realize the only real, tangible benefits are peace of mind from lying to yourself, and community from engaging in lies that at least bring you together.
>>2556527You went the easy route and scraped by. The easy route of giving in to the most easy and pleasant ideas, with the added self whipping of roughing it, like you had another option you were capable of pursuing. You said, fuck this society that I feel rejects me, there's an entire country where I'll be accepted. But reality set in. You return to drink. Now you are desperately deluding yourself. It's sad. It's just sad. You can't allow yourself to feel that though. Just have to keep moving forward. None of that shit is any more real than its actual uses. Ignore the people who are retardedly antisemitic. Getting wrapped up in religious bullshit is half of your trouble though. You were rejected from a community that you thought you belonged to, after running from a community that you perceived as rejecting you. It's sad. Face reality.
>>2557163>retarded>antisemiticWell excuse me for noticing patterns, kike
>>2556506No. You're wrong. I don't think whites are bad, any more than I think any race is bad. Unlike you. You seem to like to think that things are so simple, that you can write off entire races of people as lesser than you. That is disgusting and demonstrably wrong. You only need to live with and talk with people to understand that most are chill and want to get along. The insecure, the internally weak, the ones who lash out instead of looking in, people like you. Those are bad people. Jewish people aren't inherently bad. Americans are not inherently greedy (fat, lazy, greedy, are all traits that represent Americans internationally yet you don't want to be labeled that). Get your head out of your ass. Every abrahamic religion has this chosen people bullshit. I can understand rightfully making well thought out arguments and ideas against religion. You aren't doing that. You're simplistic and vile in your behavior. Maybe you're not representing your ideas well? That's being very generous to you.
>>2557173You absolute retard. I was the one trying to reach out humanly to op, and you, with your room temperature iq, decide this is my moment to shine and spout regurgitated lines, as you're not clever enough to even be fun with. You're dull. It's embarrassing to witness you.
>>2557163i never stoped drinking and i have not been rejected by the relgiouse comunity here
>>2557177You were cast out for drinking right? I thought you said so yourself.
>>2557179>cast outyea of one yeshivah and it wast harsh theres no hard feelings btween me amd the rabbis there i made a promise and broke it multiple times it my fualt, i havent even soent a full week in the tent yet and qlready found an apartment im 90 percent sure ill move into amd if it dosent come together ill go work and live in a sheep farm or some shit
>>2557182My buddy, my guy. I see you. It's hard not to. You've already given into the larp. Religion seems more meaningful and more true when everyone around you feeds into it, but you are no different in that regard to any other religion. And all religions have people that believe as desperately as you, otherwise they would not self perpetuate. It's simple logic. You have a brain. You know that we don't actually have answers to the questions that religion tries to answer. But it's so easy to just give yourself to a set of rules and beliefs, since then you don't have to put in the effort of finding your own way. My buddy, what you describe is legitimately alcoholism. If you can't keep promises not to drink, then you're in trouble. That trouble is you clinging to this comfort for some reason. This reason, most often is you're not really happy. You're trying to get by. You want time to pass and don't want to be bored and end up thinking too much. It's ok. I'm not judging you at all. I've been there. It's OK. At some point you really need to look in the mirror though. Being honest with yourself feels incredible, even if it hurts.
>>2557183>what you describe is legitimately alcoholismi used to drink like 12 a day often more my brother drinks 20 a day my dad deank 30 a day i drank 3 yesterday i am not an alcholic
>>2557189My friend, that is not good logic. My daddy injects 8 heroins a day and I only inject 2. Obviously I'm not an addict. I don't have problems. Read my words again. You have a powerful mental block you're using to dam up emotions. It isn't really worthwhile keeping that block. You're making some wild decisions while holding onto the stress of your life. You're keeping it together just fine! But if you're really keeping it together why must you act like this. It's OK my guy. It's okay to look at yourself more. A bit of looking inward. I mean, that's what religious people should do and must do, right? Your past excuses in this thread are what lead me to make my conclusions. You're subconsciously aware of your self, and reality, but you're not allowing yourself to see it.
>>2557174>>2557176We’ll all just get along, man! We just have to throw away everything that divides us! You know, except for Israel, they’re special.
>>2557198You're confusing bigger ideals with talking with one guy. Get out of here. You're doing nothing productive.
>>2557198Also why does this info graphic matter at all? You don't have the knowledge and skill to write out convincing arguments. You rely on this colorful images, fed to you, because you lack critical thinking skills.
>>2557201>get out of hereKill yourself>>2557204>post too longLet me try to sum it up:Jews display a larger than average in group preference. Jews display a larger than average rate of mental illnessJews, as a group, have and continue to practice customs and rituals that take “in group preference” to another level, to the point where they are taught from childhood that anyone who does not share their race is “cattle” and live only at the Jews’ pleasureTheir rituals of mutilation and codified scapegoating makes them unpleasant to deal with.Their wealth and prominence is based upon usury, which relies on the relative civility of the “other” they view as animals, to function.Attacking or even noting ANY of the above realities or their fruits (eg countless hours of footage of full grown and armored Jews killing Palestinian children or “settlers” pulling old women out of their homes and squatting in them) is labeled “antiemetic”Ergo: these terrible things are inherent to the Jew and cannot be logically separated from them.
>>2557197look bro im not gonna change>>2557198israel is more mutted than any western country>>2557227i dont care about outher people only my own if that upsets you write me a poem
>>2557227Good on you for putting in the effort. I do appreciate that. They're are aspects to the religion that you describe accurately. You can do the same with many old practices/religions. They're all faulty like that. I was wrong, you can take the time to describe the wrongs of the religion and those that practice it. Those who ignore the reality of the system they chose to devote themselves to would have to bear the brunt of the pain and anger of those that are harmed by this religion. It is horrible. It is painful. Thank you for explaining, instead of relying on the simplistic and often unproductive attacks on religion.
>>2557235>I don’t care etcWonderful: neither do I. However, your people have made it a crime for my people to express the same desire. I hope you die in service to the IDF
>>2557236You’re on 4chan, dude. Everyone is a niggerfaggot until proven otherwise
>>2557235Woah. You cast off others kindness because you can't let go of the trauma of your childhood and upbringing? How weak. You know what? No wonder you were cast out. That man saw in you that you were worthless because of that worm you keep in your heart. The worm that tells you you're right you're better you're fine. You are that worm. You don't need religion to see that. Keep digging that hole you're digging. I'm sure it's leading to great places.
>>2557239Eh, I try to think everyone is kinda cool until they prove otherwise. Especially if they try to place others beneath them to raise themselves up. Then it's a clear sign there's nothing good in this person. They're desperately counting on ideas that they hope make them intrinsically better than others. It's just sad. It's the haven of the craven, for sure.
>>2557243Shouldn’t you be in a homeless/mushroom/pipe thread?
>>2557244No, because I'm successful in my field enough to have a home. You don't need to be a loser to have a sense of self and place within our shared reality.
>>2557245Well apparently >>2557235 Jew boy is fucking neither
>>2557237>However, your people have made it a crime for my people to express the same desire.no we have not faggot your people forced mine to abandon our culture and take on the smudge of yours how discusting or do you not know about the haskalah and the over 50 percent intermariage rate in america go pester the front cow guard of a freight train and leave me alone, i move across the world to not have to interact with goyim>>2557242>That man saw in you that you were worthlesnot what hapend i already told you it was on good terms that i left
>>2557255>he doesn’t knowNo, I can’t believe that. You’re just disingenuous, like ALL kikes. You won’t join the IDF, you won’t get a place to live, I hope the jackals who pick your bones clean are spared the indigestion
>>2557252Yeah, so I'm trying to be nice to him. He's obviously going through a hard time. He needs patience but refuses it. At this point the only thing that'll get through to him is giving him enough chances to actually self reflect. He's not that dumb, just acting dumb because shit is incredibly stressful. He needs these opportunities to grow. Eventually he might stop refusing and look into a mirror for a bit. He's still convinced a trad lifestyle will be his salvation. He's living his best larp, unlike others on this site that just seethe.
>>2557259All religions are larp. They're all human efforts to describe reality. There is no secrets, no deep answers to life's questions. Just nice stories about how to live well. That's it. They're ancient honest self help books. People used this honesty as a tool and it quickly lost its honesty. But when people are actually persecuted, murdered and the like, as societies have done to those designated lesser, and actively killed for their beliefs, the vast majority of people say that's way, way too far. Even if the religion is harmful most people don't want to see death and war. Why? Because universally war,harm, murder, violence, is generally shit. Of course there is times where it's necessary, but generally? It's shit. There are no real good reasons to raid and claim land beyond selfish desire. We finally finished those thoughts off supposedly in ww2. Then Russia had to have a dying breath. They were experiencing extreme brain drain, with other nations stealing their best, and no development in their communities, leading to a dying country side and drained cities. Anyway religion is a larp. It's never really had the answers. Op sticking with his cope of booze is enough of a wake up call. They seem to be very emotionally closed off, so they refuse to look inward. They are a young guy without good roll models perpetuating his childhood in adulthood, looking for religion and a change of scenery to change him inside. It's not going to happen like that. He can keep running his entire life, even end up more devout, and he'll still never look himself in the eyes. Sucks.
>>2557261Look, even industry has found itself colluding against government, very successfully bending rules to continuingly churn out more profits, as that is the only god they answer to. The beef, milk, and most recently egg industry have been caught colluding. But so many religious institutions are indistinguishable from profiteering businesses. Because they aren't taxed, churches pour all their money into real estate. Even a bullshit church like scientology can't be killed despite only having a few thousand believers. They are entrenched in real estate in historical buildings that are illegal to demolish. Sorry, this is a rant. It's impossible to think religion is a thing outside of humans or has any answers. It's all human, all the way down. But it gives a nice narrative and easy answers to questions that don't gave answers. Questions like "why" that are only human. Thus our human answers via religions throughout human history. No one religion more valid than the next.
>>2557259>>2557261>>2557268>its all religion’s fault man>I’m being niceOk, you do that. I want him and everyone who shares his genes dead.
>>2557269I want you dead. You offer nothing besides discord. You're too stupid to even justify your beliefs.
>>2557258i know all about the lies you learned on pol i used to post there daily for years, my family came to america orthdox and with one generation they were no difrent from any outher slop eating gentile you people are cancer and i hope ameroca colapses fast, i will joime the idf and i probably will get an apartment the dude was supposed to call metonight but i dont think he will witch worys me but what ever ill call him tomrow before shabbos and if it dosnt work out ill find another place tent life is comfy
>>2557276You are obviously inebriated. The Jewish g-d as you describe it doesn't want you. You have been rejected by your people for your decisions. You ignore meaningful discussion because you don't want to think about it. Please, please be honest with yourself. You don't even own a mirror to look at yourself with do you. You can keep this persecution complex up easily enough with how often anti-semites pop up, but you know it's a game. So tell me, if you're so honest and true, what do you believe in? Because a lot of what you have said has been some straight /pol/ bullshit despite you lamenting how terrible /pol/ is. That's part of why you're so fascinating. It's so incongruous that it's obvious you have no idea what you're doing with your life. You don't have a grasp on reality even. You are pretending. That's why I call you out as a larper. You can't confront yourself and your own decisions and actions.
>>2557271See>>2557227The fact that a doctor is legally required to ask me if I’m really sure I don’t won’t my son’s infant genitals mutilated - and is THEN asked to confirm with my wife over and above me - and THEN ask both of us AGAIN, the very moment we hold our newborn son and refuse to let him out of our sight, is a Jew’s fault. It is the fault of the Schofield Study Bible commentary which was derived and “gentile-ized” from the works of Jews, and it is the Jewish lobbying culture and longitudinal trickery that sustains it.I do hate the Jew for the many crimes throughout history and the world but I was not ready to kill a Jew on principle until I had to keep my son away from the trusted arbiter of medicine because he was adamant that my sons genitals be mutilated without being able to explain why.This is a uniquely US phenomenon and it is the fault of a Jew.
>>2557276Also you're actively racist. I don't know why you expect curiosities with that behavior. It seems reactive more than anything, which is understandable, but makes you a huge asshole to anyone with the ability to introspect.
>>2557286Yes the way circumcision is done in the USA is gross. You don't have to blame a jew for that. It was the responsibility of an anti-masturbation Christian. Get your shit straight.
>>2557285>obviously inebriatedi have not drank at all today i was just getting ready to open my forst beer of the night>So tell me, if you're so honest and true, what do you believe ini belive in my understanding of judiasm inw itch only cuacasians our humans and outher races are literal animals, i belive g-d is the master of everything and that he set asode the jewish people to serve him>obvious you have no idea what you're doing with your life.im waiting to be drafted after that i want to find a wife have kids and raise sheep enough for me to eat lamb every day, preferbly i will have 10 sons who will intern have 10 sons and together with my decendants i will found my own vilage
>>2557287bro ive spent years dwelling inward you dont have me figured the way you think
>>2557292You don't have yourself figured out in any way or you wouldn't be saying or acting the way you do. You again, refuse to confront the ideas I bring up. You ignore them. If you had good answers they would come easily. But you don't. Why is that?
>>2557289>anti masturbation Christianity popularized circumcision You are simply incorrect. >the wayOh, how silly of me, it would be much better if the baby boy’s genitals were ritualistically sliced incompletely and then the remaining flesh sucked off by a grown Jewish man’s mouth. https://www.nyc.gov/site/doh/health/health-topics/safe-bris.pageI hate all Jews. They All practice this. They are all guilty. I want them all dead
>>2557293>wouldn't be saying or acting the way you doim acting and speaking as i am you may not like me but it is honest with my internal true self, the things you say may hold true for you but they are not universal people have an individual character to them, i am at the best place ive been my entire adult life and i only see myself progressing upwards into newer better realms of joy my religon is part of that but it is not the only catalyst
>>2557297So he speaks. Thank you. Please ignore the fuck heads. So I'm here too hear you. What is it that makes you believe? After getting rejected enough in your home, in a society that's very exclusive, you fled to a new land. You were rejected again for your behavior. Now you have hope? I want to hear your thoughts. Obviously I don't hate you or your beliefs, I simply wasn't born in your belief system and don't see it as truth as I have other things in my life that answer any questions I would seek religion for. Do you feel yourself special for how you were born? No judgements. I'm hear to listen and share.
>>2557157b'h I will, getting rid of all my ties in a month and I'll be good to do it. Travelling America/Europe for the summer and ending up in the land for Fall/Winter. Will definitely check out midburn, maybe I'll check out the big burn in US :D It's pretty depressing to see what they say esp in places like this, don't bother reading. Also if you're OP stop drinking the macabi crap drink tubi like a real man
>>2557294Orthodox practices of religion are backwards. News at 11.
>>2557302It's depressing to see people bought into a cult from the time they were born. Having discussions with them is painful because they assume everyone believes the same as them or they're outsiders. This is the perfect way to maintain a belief system across time, but it in no way justifies the belief system. It gives people an excuse to "other" people, and further isolates them from broader society. Some of these beliefs systems perpetuate abuse with weak historical justifications. The believers often aren't capable of having honest discussion because their taught from birth to ignore questions that are too difficult to answer. So yes, it's pretty depressing.
>>2557300>What is it that makes you believe?hard to say i see the natruale world around me as beutifull and belive it was disighned by a creator i dont think it just evolved this way randomly and i have alot of faith in my forebears whom i know to have been very inteligent poeple with strong unshakable faith in g-d>After getting rejected enough in your home,i was nit rejected in my hiuse in america by the peiple at large yes absolutly again and again i was rejected but so is every one elae who cant fit in line in that regard i am no dofrent from any socialy inept person of with their are millions>You were rejected again for your behavior.i have not been rrjected here that is the dofrence i still have freinds its true i am curently homless but i understand why unlike in amercia were i tried in vaine to conprehend outher around me>Now you have hope?of course i see myself as walking into the light at tge end of a tunnel i can plot steps in my mind to realiatcly acheive what i want my biggest hurdle will be findkng a wife whom i love and whom loves me but i think even that is posible her people in this place are very dofrent to the americans i scorn>Do you feel yourself special for how you were born?kinda i am very blessed to be born jewish and soecificly into my family but im still just a mortal man like you or any outher and i relize that
>>2557302i am op and tubi is disgusting only hard alchol i like is burbon but arach is starting to grow on me
>>2557307My friend, you really are lost. You're relying on instincts and the thoughts of one under stress. I see now why you cling to this line. It's all you have. Belief is what you've invested yourself into, to the point you've moved across countries. I'm sorry. History is not kind. I'm sure your ancestors were intelligent, otherwise they would not achieved what they have, but it's still a rule set thought out by humans. It's a great rule set that served them well, but where is god in those words? Just assume a god exists and these rules are from them? I mean, societies have been built in many belief systems. Unless you're born into one and told its real they all are fairly easy to understand. They try to hide shit in esoteric ways, to keep you intrigued, but let's be real. The jewish g-d allowed jews to be persecuted. The jewish g-d apparently doesn't do much. Isreal, as you've noted, isn't what you expected. I'm curious as to how your belief exists when faced with reality. You have weak justifications for your faults. That's what the man who rejected you recognized in you. He gave you those limits. You failed. You feel rejected by the society you were born into. At least religion gives you a social in everywhere so you can have acceptance. You're very, very human.
>>2557311Also, based on what you've said of your family, they're not that blessed or intelligent. There isn't justice in the world outside of the justice humans make. There are no gods guiding us outside of what humans say they want. What makes you so sure that your religion is real?
>>2557311>thoughts of one under stressim not under stress>jewish g-d allowed jews to be persecutedyea we often deserve it>Isreal, as you've noted, isn't what you expected. I'mits better than i expected >I'm curious as to how your belief exists when faced with reality.my reality strenchens it even more so i see the hand of g-d working in the million litle miracles every day, its hard for you to understand as you dont no me but i dotn see liveing a tent negativly i am quite content this way and at any point i could stop doing it easily >>2557312>family, they're not that blessed or intelligentmy mom has a tested iq of 150 my dad was also smart all of us are good lookong and theres more i wont disclose but it is good and puts me in the top percentile of fortunant people
>>2557314Oh no, i love living in a tent. I live in my bivvy when I can. I see beauty everywhere as well. I didn't grow up with religion, though my mother baptized me. I didn't think you'd be comparing your alcoholism with your families unless there was some obvious issue. It is an obvious issue btw. You're the one who brought it up, which I respect. IQ certainly isn't everything. You know that if you're so smart. Hell, if you're so smart why are you buying into this stuff unless it gives you the out you need? You took that out. Why'd you take it?
>>2557314Also I don't think you deserved any of that shit. No people deserve to be prosecuted over the years like that. You've seen how senseless hatred is. It's senseless to hate. People don't choose how they're born. They don't close the systems they're told are true since birth. It isn't their fault, but when they do harm to others they must be held accountable and it is good to have outside opinions so that you never end up too cloistered. You know what I mean.
>>2557316>Why'd you take it?i was very misreable in america 21 years no freinds complete isolation felt likea. circus freak, but your wrong in thinking that their cant be truth in religon>>2557317>good to have outside opinionsif it aint broke dont fix it jews pre haskala were happy ansd well off now that weve de gehttoized its a cluster fuck and ashkenazim are literaly going extinct
>>2557320I mean, you think they're happy. I really like learning about history, specifically how the average person lived. It's really fun, you know? I have a university with free museums near me. I get to spend hours picking their brains for whatever donation I can give to get in. This museum specifically has a focus on pre-Christian beliefs. I've spent a lot of time there when I was in college, since the museum was across the street from the natural history building, next to a very good NY style pizza shop. I was able to learn so much about how people lived, since that was the interest of a couple of the people who were often there. Turns out they were retired history and religion professors who lived in town. I learned a lot. I'd do my studying in the natural history building and take my breaks in the museum. They had a fuck ton of middle eastern exhibits. I went to the oriental museum in Chicago to do research. It was incredible. I handled some artifacts that predate Judaism. Incredible. I'm so lucky.Still, I grew up in an abusive household. They held on to catholic traditions about punishment. I spent a lot of time either kicked out of the house or locked in the basement. Irish heritage, so everyone was alcoholic. My mom broke away and learned IT and computers without education, but she still carried the scars of her childhood, so she perpetuated needless abuse. Thanks for sharing. I'd like to hear more from you.
>>2557328>mean, you think they're happyi know i was provledged to get to spend time with my moms father[spoke 7 lanhuages] who grew up as a vishnitz hasid in the carpathian moutains of romania probably the least asimalted jewish comunity in europe, people there were dirt poor and had hard lives but knew a sense of satisfaction hard to imagine, most of his family died in ww2 and he himself was forced to sweep mine feilds and dig gold terth out of dead soulders mouths he never lost his faith in g-d, my dads side of the family is half ashkenaz half irish thru the irish side were suposed to be related to billy the kid somehow[family lore] he was raosed catholic and had his strugles and sadly shared them with us but was still underneath it all one of the finest humans ive ever met sadly he died at 48 when i was 13 but i think of him and my moms dad as my maine male role models
dug my shabbos latrine
had a beduine takes his glock past me
>>2557593>glockflock, and i have moved camp becuase it is suposed to rain over shabbos, also used the camp shower feel clean now
found this just now
>>2557306I'm gonna go ahead and assume that you're an atheist (and not a jew), and if so I totally get your viewpoint.>It's depressing to see people bought into a cult from the time they were born. Having discussions with them is painful because they assume everyone believes the same as them or they're outsiders.Don't paint us all with the same brush, there are lots of communities with different beliefs and practises, and I'm not offering any defence for hasidim. They'll even see me as an outsider. Those hardcore blackheads are a modern movement, barely older than the USA. Lots of people are very secular, open minded and happy to talk if you're willing to leave your prejudice behind. I wonder where you draw the line between cult and culture. Hopefully you extend this viewpoint to other religions like Christianity and Islam.> This is the perfect way to maintain a belief system across time, but it in no way justifies the belief system.That's the point. It's a matter of faith and tradition not logic. > It gives people an excuse to "other" people, and further isolates them from broader society.This close-mindedness costs people dearly. It's a shame that anyone does this. Israel is a delicate balance between security (need to exclude) and innovation (need to include)>Some of these beliefs systems perpetuate abuse with weak historical justifications. Like what? Don't look for logic backing something that's based on faith.>The believers often aren't capable of having honest discussion because their taught from birth to ignore questions that are too difficult to answer. So yes, it's pretty depressing.I have this problem as well.I really wonder what the big deal is for you? Why do you think so much about practises of other people? If you're the anon who was mad about being snipped sorry for u m8. I don't get why anyone does this outside of the religion
>>2557308Im a big fan would happily drink any of these w youhave a nice sweet shabbat man enjoy
>>2557794Lol the entire old testament is about jewish supremacy and god giving the world to them because they are chosen to be a special light unto the nations. That's a VERY old idea, fundamental to your religion, and there's no way to sanitize it. Just admit that Judaism is a tribal Jewish supremacy cult. Obviously you aren't all chabadniks but let's get real here, it's pretty crystal clear in your own holy book, no matter how hard you try to ignore it.
>>25577941 Samuel 15:3Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.Numbers 31:17Now therefore,kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man by lying with him.2 Kings 16Then Menahem smote Tiphsah, and all that were therein, and the coasts thereof from Tirzah: because they opened not to him, therefore he smote it; and all the women therein that were with child he ripped up.Psalms 137:9Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.How should I interpret these verses? Why would your god want you to do these things? Why should we respect your culture and your beliefs when the bible says shit like this?
>>2557795thanks man i had a great shabbos got invited to some israelis house fir dinner dude spoke no henrew but we made it work and i had a great time>>2557843>How should I interpret these versesliteraly, bar kochbas army will rise again and this time we will be victoriouse now sing with me od kahane chai od kahane od kahane od kahane chai
>>2558326>dude spoke no henrewenglish
>>2545819that garb is cool as fuck
had to move my tent today out of the log cabin some lady came by at like 8 and told me that their bring kiddergardeners there today so i moved it back up top pf the hill were i am exposed to the rain, im going to yitzhar to check out a yeshivah hopefully they take me in as a student there and let me live on sight, also hopefull all my shit is not soaking wet when i get back to mitzpe ramon tonight
>>2546752Because they're not a scared little pussy? The fuck is going to happen, you will get exposing pictures of outdoors fun? No wonder why you're a little bitch in life.
>>2558581spent all day getting to samria and chrcking out yitzar spoke to the rosh yeshivah he told me to call him after pesach and i can try the yeshivah, then i hitched back thru samria to the bus to tel aviv witch im curently on will then go to ber sheva and then back to mitzpe ramon, gonna move my camp tomorw or the next day out to the shomron very nice land and people out there
>>2558326Lol you guys will be your own undoing. You'll probably still blame it on everyone else, though. Have fun with your ethnic supremacist/victim cult.
>>2557843IMO you should interpret this with a sharp historical and critical lens. This was the equivalent of netflix/wikipedia in 300 BC, so I think these lines can be viewed propaganda against the tribe's enemies. Also they're pseudo historical accounts in mythic form.Religious extremists probably look at this literally and to me are equivalent to ISIS and Al Qaeda. Thankfully there's not too many of them.You shouldn't look at an ancient story and judge people by it. I don't think cultures today should be judged by slavery that happened hundred of years ago. Judge us by contributions to science and statecraft, economics, and in general the pursuit of knowledge and morality.>>2557836Not really disagreeing with you. Most if not all cultures point to their own supremacy, obviously we're not different. Same goes for religions. Lol nobody who says "everyone is better than us, we suck" gets anywhere meaningful in life. The "chosen people" bit is definitely spicy but you're missing the part of the deal where we have to give up. Conformance to the 613 commandments, strict & immediate punishment for straying. I think our sages set a high bar for how we should act and clearly it's paid off. At the same time, being chosen =/= being better. It's sort of like the caste system in India which dates to around the same time, as well as feudalism. Everyone has their function is society/the world. This is the prescription on we're supposed to live and to me it's without a value judgement on others.
tryd to get to the shomron today to but got stuck in tel aviv due to the bus schedule being fucked up my the leftist, so i set up camp above the beach probly be here a few day mabey even till aafter shabbos
I just finished the Shvil Israel (Israel National Trail). I want to especially thank the autists in this thread. Also AMA!
>>2559526post pics id love to see them, my first question is how many of the outher people you saw hikeing it were dati?
>>2559548I had to Google what you dati means, since I'm not from here. Pretty much all the Israelis I met were chill, liberal leaning young people or upper middle class boomers. For instance, noone I spoke to endorsed the judicial reforms. Few of them were very religious. About 25% of thru hikers were foreigners, mostly from Europe. I'm not much of a photographer.
>>2559571Did they denounce the Talmud?
>>2559571>Pretty much all the Israelis I met were chill, liberal leaning young people or upper middle class boomers. For instance, noone I spoke to endorsed the judicial reforms. Few of them were very religious. About 25% of thru hikers were foreigners, mostly from Europeabsolutly disgusting filth the lot of yall>>2559585hopefully not as it is a hily book integral to our culture
>>2559210Nice pilpul, Rabbi. Your holy book is crystal clear, no amount of word games or mental gymnastics will sanitize the verses about killing babies and ripping open pregnant women.>we're just chosen by the one true god of the universe to be a light unto the nations and inherit the world (that means taking all your shit and converting you into noachide slaves)! That doesn't NeCeSsArIlY mean we're better than you!You fuckers are so slippery and dishonest, you're obviously trying to defuse a bomb here, but it's evident to anyone who has even just had a cursory read through the old testament that your god hates everyone but his chosen people. That's why he tells them to raid cities, slay women and children, practice predatory lending to non-jews, steal the virgin girls of enemy tribes as booty, etc.You talk as if everybody does what you do, but I struggle to find any other people with a religion that explicitly obsesses over their particular tribe being chosen by the one and only god of the universe, and how they need to fix us all and lead us in the "right direction" because we're ignorant, evil barbarians who sacrifice our own children. "My culture is good and deserves to survive" =/= "all other cultures are trash, they should be our slaves. Trust me bro, God told me"You idiots have contributed to a world of sorrows and brain damage with your filthy death cults, Christianity and Islam included (as they are thoroughly Abrahamic and would not have existed without you promoting them as opposition to paganism).>oh it's just like india's caste system, which is bad enough, but in OUR caste system we place ourselves at the very top and the rest of you at the bottom! It sounds bad but trust me, it's lonely at the top. Plus we have to follow strict dietary rules! That makes it so different! Just accept your role in the world as my noachide shabbos goy, it's just the way you're supposed to live.
>>2559591goy seeth it hilariouse