It's very funny to watch poseur bushcrafters who show their brand new equipment without a single scratch or any dirt and after uploading a photo to instagram they put it back to the closet.Like why do you even need so many expensive useless equipment? What for? You can enjoy outdoors in comfort with basic tools and stuff.
>>2533443first time?>400bucks on a bag bigger than anything on this board and only useful when on a bike. get on my fucking level
>>2533446What's the name and where could I buy this please?
>>2533443>brand new equipment without a single scratch or any dirt Yeah its almost like these people are advertising stuff.Holy shit anon how smooth brained are you? You should try going /out/
>>2533487it looks like comblock milsurp, but im sure there is someone out there, who will sell it to gullible fools, like you, for 200 bucks.
>>2533485It... looks like a tuba case. What is it?>>2533487That's a Yugo backpack. Coleman's has them for ten bucks. You can change the shoulder straps to change it into a haversack/man purse, and it has a deployable dump pouch.
>>2533446>>2533487https://equipment.fandom.com/wiki/Borbeni_ranac_M-75
>>2533443Those leather gloves look good though.
>>2533487anon from /k/ buy & sell thread
>>2533490EPIC TYLER DURDENN REACCTT!!1!!1!111!!!!!!!!
>>2533443That little external frame is nice, what is it
>>2533443+1
>>2533446Can anyone recommend me a simple backpack similar to this, but bigger?
Gear's the least enjoyable aspect of the outdoors but, when you're sitting bored in the office waiting for your next trip, it's one of the few things you can do to scratch the itch a little bit (second behind route planning). That's why I try not to be too judgemental about gearheads. Personally, the only thing I really enjoy about gear is gradually figuring out over time what equipment is really essential, and what's just redundant. For instance, when I see someone with a cheap pair of sandals tied to the outside of their bag, I tend to think they've actually put the miles in. I used to think that hiking poles were vaguely ridiculous, but now I've done a long, remote multi-day hike (and, as such, necessarily carried a heavy pack a long way) I know how useful they are.
>>2533618It's a Savotta 339. I have it. It's okay. Not a lot of comfort with heavy loads, and there are some questionable additions to it, like the zipper, which is only a vector for moisture to seep through.Looks like Varusteleka removed it from their site. Must be discontinued. >>2533967The pack is actually decent for a day pack. Anything else with that vintage charm but larger will come with a frame - the LK35 and Norwegian Bergen come to mind. Again, much bigger. The savotta S is an option, but much more modern with all the MOLLE on it. The veshmeshok is also an option.>>2533490The bag is used for sure. So is the stove. Cleaning your gear for a family photo like this makes sense.
yep it's all fake it's just ads nobody actually carries this shit
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I have so many more uses for one of those little folding saws than I do for a hatchet but they want the hatchet larp, I had to go to like 4 or 5 stores to find a folding saw near me while every store was loaded up with useless hatchets and axes.I say this as someone who has had hatchets since I was 10, they're neat toys but for 99% of stuff a saw is better. I'm not processing firewood out there with my hatchet and with a saw I can make easy precise cuts for anything I want to make.Also american stores don't have non-toxic oils to put on your knife or anything, what the fuck do I put on this without buying mineral oil online? I asked at multiple stores around here and the people were all confused on why I would want to sharpen my knife or have a layer of oil on it. There's got to be something simple that I'm missing, right? I see the sharpeners sold all the time but not the oil you're supposed to use with them?
>>2536259Wel it depends on the steel, for carbon you for sure want to apply oil to prevent rust, like you would on axes and swords but most pocket knives that are sold around here are almost always stainless, (west Europe ) and also depends on the stone, not all stones need oil and diamond sharping plates can pretty much be used dry, some people only use a strop with stropping compound. But i guess this was not what you ment. What knife do you have?
>>2536259Also yes gimme saw any day, hatchet is for at home splitting the firewood
>>2536243Wait I smell toastAlso where did the term 'loadout' even come from? Some video game? It's an odd way to describe one's gear if you think about it
>>2536290I just have a cheap mora, says carbon on it. One of my moras already rusted after repeated use in poor conditions, even with stainless I want to treat my stuff right and oiling will only benefit them.
>>2536311It's just the equipment that i spawn with.
>>2536291But Anon, a hatchet is not for splitting. That's what knives are for.
>>2536351I've given my moras a light coating of canola oil in the past and it's helped. It has a pretty heavy patina on it though.
I don't even carry a hatchet or saw any more. Just a morakniv and a fillet knife.
>>2536556Actually anon, the spoon is for splitting. Common misconception.
>>2536351oh yea great knives those mora!if you threat them well they will do the same to you! and yea is pretty much always good to protect metal whichever type it is!if you cant find oil or don't have it in the field and can't find a way to get something like it, you can just wipe the blade clean every day after use just make sure you don.t touch it, the skin grease can have some acid properties that will make it rust.but that's after the sharpening, around here we have some great belgium stones that can pretty much be used with spit or watter, great for in the field
>>2536628wait you guys spilt the wood?
>>2533443>three flashlights>external battery pack>stainless steel water bottle
>>2536737Nothing wrong with stainless, as long as it's single-wall
>>2536763You don't think it's weird that this person carries an ul backpacking tent but takes the extra weight of a metal water bottle?
>>2536259i fucking love my folding saw, really happy i got one instead of a hatchet, also gonna post this video again:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkl_yQe6l7A
>>2536779Since stainless water bottles don't weigh much more than plastic, I don't find it weird at all. It's possible he just liked that bag and wasn't obsessed with making everything ultralight. It may be possible he just isn't a bitch.
>>2536806Not bag, tent. Pardon my retardation.
>>2536806It's possible that I've been the faggot this whole time. I am a big supporter of pic related because of how well they fit in my pack plus being able to collapse them if you don't need the water storage. I take your point that a non-insulated stainless steel water bottle is not that heavy. Mayble like half a pound. It could just be his preference.
>>2536838pic related
>>2533583What's wrong. Does Brad give your little pp a chub?
>>2536259baby oil is mineral oil, it's available everywhere in the usa
>>2536849I will agree that collapsible bottles are a handy thing to take along, and squeezing the life out of them is more entertaining than simply drinking out of a hard-sided container.
>>2536259next time you need a folding saw in america go to the hardware store gardening section. home depot lowes etc has them as pruning saws. same ones.
>>2536215I mean, what you just posted is a pretty reasonable packing list for any field event over a week
I don't have a picture but I'm camping next weekend. Here's what I got>Sleeping bag, wool blanket and woobie all rolled up in a bivy>spoon, cup, and kettle in that blue speckled ceramic finish >Ammo can with instant oatmeal, hot chocolate and coffee powder, crackers, Peanut butter, dehydrated mango, and some Jerky >Dave Canterbury canteen set>fire starting kit>pipe and baccy >notebook to work on dungeons and dragons dungeons >extra socks >headlamp >oven gloves >guitar >copy of Ivanhoe >garbage bag >gorilla tape >toiletries
>>2533697When the shit hits the fan Im coming after those gatorade bars.Sorry, bru
>>2538263Ammo can wont keep bears away and is heavy as hell.
>>2536243I see what you did there
>>2533554its a messenger backpack that can carry 2 liquid adult humans.
>>2533471Bump
>>2533973browsing gear for the best stuff for your it is fun on those bad weather days when you dont really want to go out, I hate all the cuckinflencer adds though, you have to search for what's actually good/unbiased.
>>2536259I oil with olive oil. It spreads and coats well, lasts okayish (long enough), and the oil that gets on my skin while doing it can just be rubbed in. I also use it to keep my stiff leathers in good condition.
These guys seem to carry a shit load of gear.
>>2533697The fidget spinners made me rofl
>>2536243what the fuckin phuck is happening?
>>2541148This. I hate that I can't do a search for anything anymore without getting umpteen results of "best ______ in 2023" With a bunch of affiliate links to shamazon.
>>2536716>if you threat them well they will do the same to you!
>>2536215that is the actual loadout of a bong soldier
>>2533697enough extension cables to go from your mom's basement to the back yard.
So what should you bring on a 2 day hiking trip?
>>2533443How the FUCK does one keep squirrels out of their gardens and orchards? I have a plan for spring/summer... ants/slugs/wasps... birds will be fuckers... moose even. Squirrels, however will be superior cunts. Yes I will be getting a new pellet gun (someone stole my vintage one... squirrels?)
>>2542304Wrong thread... fawk! I guess it's a bump for ye!
>>2542298The same stuff you bring on a 1-day trip, but with more food
This is unironically my backpack, cost about $20 but it's more versatile than any of my $100+ packs
>>2542382Based rubber chad
>>2542306…what thread were you going for?Take me with you?
>>2542382Isn't the strap system built off of combining it with a belt?
My loadout for an 18 day hike in central Australia.Trangia because I'm poor and haven't upgraded to a gas burner. I didn't bring the rain jacket in the end because it was too bulky. The camp-slippers (borrowed from my dad) were pretty shit and fell apart by the end. Next time I'd just bring a cheap pair of flipflops. The foam roller was because I had a knee injury. Only 300g and super useful plus makes a decent seat.
>>2542502FUCK forgot pic
>>2533443I once ate a turtle kek
>>2533697The mountain dew and the katana KEK
>>2533443Because its a new toy and I like showing my new toys to my friends.
>>2542468/HGM/ - HomeGrownMen thread 362Some alright chats going on there. Basically telling me to just shoot them, or chance it. I guess I'll do both.
>>2538252>>2541951retards. that's the point.
>>2542880Shooting them is the better solution if you actully want to solve the problem.
>>2541304Mora-chan is doing confusing things to my no nos
>>2533697Always lolling at the obvious Co2 bb guns and swimming goggles, imagine getting stabbed by this guy when shit hits the fan, seeing his goggled numbah-two ass looking face noosing you up by your neck with an fucking extension cord as he chews away his six billionth fuel bar
>>2533697The longer I look, the better it gets
>>2533697Let me guess, /out/ "needs" more
>>2533443>It's very funny to watch poseur bushcrafters who show their brand new equipment without a single scratch or any dirt and after uploading a photo to instagram they put it back to the closet.>Like why do you even need so many expensive useless equipment? What for? You can enjoy outdoors in comfort with basic tools and stuff.For views, anon.
>enjoy outdoors in comfort with a knife, some matches and a cast iron pan>comfortOP is the clueless poseur if he thinks camping with primitive gear is comfortable in any way, shape or form.
>>2542502I remember fucking around with the boys in the desert when I was 15 and burning off all my leg hair with an alcohol stove. Great trip. My mom gave me pic related as a Christmas present, so I use that now. My grandpa routinely cooks with an empty can of cat food and some chickenwire on his months-long bike rides. Don't see anything wrong with alcohol as long as you are being careful.
My base poorfag loadout. Its damn cozy
>>2548169Walmart has smiled upon you. I have that same multi tool in my glove box, to turn the dials in my car because the knobs fell off. AND that little cast iron, use it as a spoon rest. Have bought most of this stuff at one time or another, hahaha. Not that "telescopic" rod tho. I think I would try one of those mini rods that look like a stub off-road antenna before a telescopic.
>>2533487Knapsack/haversack with bedroll. You're literally better off buying a $10 backpack from the camping section at Walmart.
>>2533697Pack rod and breakdown .22 are based though.
>>2548393Haha shit I didnt realize how much is from walmart or target. Best part is its all held up for years just fine. Theres an art to being a proper broke bitch
>>2548677Its definitely the difference between being poor and being broke.
>>2533697>stud finder>jesus statue>3 separate bottles of lube>fidget spinnersonly the essentials
>>2533697mt dew & fidget spinnersa hearty kek
>>2541173For me it's the studfinder.
This motherfucker can afford eggs, what a poseur am I right guys
>>2533487Yeah why use your gese when you could buy it used and worn in already you know >>2533443 for da gram
>>2548169No way finally the telescoping rod, how do you like it dude? Catch anything? Recommend or nah?
>>2533443Why does everyone use those gay ass gloves, is there like a minimum criteria shared across /out/ posing
>>2536259like the other guy said, baby oil is usually mineral oil, but you can also find pure mineral oil as a digestive aid in drug stores, next to the constipation stuff usually.
>>2533443axe and gloves look like they've at least been used a little, but yeah the rest is clearly pretty new
>>2536259hardware store gardening section is where you find the folding saws
dont talk about basic equipment then post a photo of your kit with 85 different things in it.
>>2551713I use a pair for picking up cookware off the fire and collecting broken glass I find everywhere people have been.
>>2533443is that seriously a pair of nunchucks?
>>2533443I know you're just a butthurt seething faggot hater but some shit doesn't get wear&tear and scuff marks.
>>2553738This. It's like these guys think nobody should take reasonable care of their gear.>noooo if your kit doesn't look like you've been homeless and falling down muddy embankments every day for the last year then you don't really go out REEEEE
>>2553738Finally something kind of normal. Except all the rain ponchos. I left out a long time ago when I learned everyone is just larping.
>>2533443https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr2wJTcbJMQ
>>2553738there's a pair of fucking NUNCHUCKS in OP's pic. tell me how that isn't a LARP.>>2553747yeah that guy's shit is fine. i personally just wear wool and am not black so i'm not afraid of water, but opnchos are one of those things where "if you have space for a few, just pack them if you want." for example, i carry those little finger condom things for finger cuts, some baby powder and baking soda, cotton swabs, eye drops, etc., just nice to have in a combined medkit / toiletries / sewing kit
>>2553738fuck you. I have more kits ready than you've had girlfriends.pic rel is my urban summer assault/extraction BC kit. I'm a redneck so I need some input on how to make it as urbanite friendly and unconspicuous as possible.
>>2553764Can you point out the nunchucks, anon? I'm not seeing them.
>>2553781also known as "kung-fu sticks" in massachusetts law
>>2553783I honestly can't tell if you're trolling or not
>>2553786what else could it possibly be, besides a tandem dildo? based on what i know of the bushcraft / survival / prepping / primitive skills community, such a tool is most likely designed to be inserted in the anus and the other end swung around so as to provide prostate stimulation on a survival mission.
>>2553789Trolling, then. Got it.
>>2553791well what the fuck is it?
>>2553794It's a pocket chainsaw
>>2553783his kitchen is more stuff than all my gear but his tent is still from china...
>>2553796thanks. seems like one of those "good in theory, stupid in practice" items. we've all fallen for similar memes before.>>2553797the thing that really confuses me: no food to be seen. do these people not realize that bushcraft / survival is just pretentious camping?
>>2553801they're the pinnacle of "amazon shopping cart beginner bait" items, its the only purpose they exist for, sure ain't cutting wood.
>>2553803they also seem useful if you need to shout "OKAY IT'S TIME TO BUG OUT!" at 3am and force your family on a 6-hour drive to the middle of nowhere so you can feed them expired MRE's and rant about the impending collapse of civilization
>>2553819its there for removing his wife's limbs when she finally has the courage to serve him divorce papers and take the kids
>>2553803>>2553819ive cut plenty of timber with those little wire saws, they shred soft wood
>>2553803>t. never used oneJust say you aren't interested, no one cares if you aren't familiar
>>2553775I will find you.
>>2553854I'd love to have a chat about urban assault and extraction.
>>2554019I think anon might be more interested in insertion
>>2533967I got a Ferrino finisterre. Holds 38 liters, solid and light. It's not old school like this one if that's what you're into.
>>2541951It's pretty old. Not used DPM in a long time
>>2553830the wire ones?why rely on an unreliable piece of kit notorious for snapping randomly for survival? its fine to be ultralight but never go full retard. pruning saw at the gardening section of home depot is 1.5oz and 8 dollars. >>2553837i have, they're the kind of child's tool for laughing at.the ones with a full chain wind up weighing more than a saw or hatchet and can't cut wood as large, with more effort, less reliably.
>>2554443Oh, you definitely haven't used them, lol>unreliableExcept for the anons who have used them a lot>weigh more than hatchetsIf your hatchet is made from balsa wood>can't cut wood as largeI could eventually cut down a redwood with a SAK, given enough time. Pocket saws work fine for the size wood most normal people are cutting at camp.
>>2554481Nta but i would much rather fell a redwood with hatchet than a pocket saw.Even if the pocket saw was objectively more efficient (im not saying it isnt i just dont know and dont care) i would still prefer the hatchet. Its just so much more viscerally engaging. It really ungas my bunga, yknow?
>>2533443>without a single scratch or any dirtDo you retards know how to zoom in? There are clear scratches on the sleeping mat, scuffs on the bottom of the backpack, the twig stove is heat-tarnished etc
>>2554625Agreed, swinging an axe is a high T activity.
>>2553775Do you really carry all that rope?
>>2554481>Pocket saws work fine for the size wood most normal people are cutting at camp.so..... why would you use a dumbass pocket chainsaw instead of a folding saw?
>>2554802Less pack size, less space needed to use, personal preference, etc. I wouldn't worry about it. If you don't like them, don't use them and you'll be fine.
>>2554886bro what a folding saw weighs 2oz and fits in a side pocket easily with your water bottles.pocket chainsaws are universally made fun of and seen as a noob thing for a reason.never once seen anyone whip one of those out in a decade of trail work, but they would have definitely gotten made fun of.
>>2554886be honest how old are you and how many years have you been /out/ing?
>>2533443
>>2533443I can see why it gets silly after a while, but as someone who's new to this, it's useful to see a full kit list laid out like that. I think overinvestment of time and money to get the absolute most reliable/lightweight stuff is silly though because life isn't an MMORPG.
>>2553775Put it in an Air Jordan backpack, but tear it at one edge so that it doesn't get stolen by...anyone. Urban camo solution.
>>2555081>decade of trail work>thinks a saw weighs as much as a shot of whiskeyWhat part of the trail work do you do? HR?
>>2554720yes, you cant risk them getting loose after all.
>>2533443WaitAnti-bear spray isn't just a Adam West Batman joke?
>>2555090forgot the vaseline tin
>>2555081https://silkysaws.com/silky-gomboy-curve-folding-saw/here's the heaviest backpacking saw on the market, at a whopping 320 grams. the ones with injection molded grips weigh even less. el clueless clown.
looks like all these pocket chainsaws weigh 6-8oz.... as i said.... about 2oz heavier than a folding saw... fuckin retard dumb nigger gorilla monkey. note that you can only get these things from sketchy chinese companies and websites that look like kickstarter scams because nobody in their right mind would actually use one:https://www.amazon.com/Sportsman-Pocket-Chainsaw-Survival-Emergency/dp/B00GMR0MZShttp://nordicpocketsaw.com/en/https://www.bobvila.com/articles/best-pocket-chainsaw/#:~:text=Most%20pocket%20chainsaws%20weigh%20around,or%20even%20on%20a%20belt.https://coloradotrail.org/product/pocket-chainsaw/https://www.survivalfrog.com/products/pocket-chainsawhttps://www.rei.com/product/199841/sol-pocket-chain-sawclueless zoomer retard turn 18 and go hiking before posting
>>2555492https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=bear+spray
>>2555269sign up for conservation corps or a local program and bring one of those "pocket chainsaws" on your first day.please.do it.
>>2555555terrible get
>>2555553>>2555556>mention a piece of gear without vitriol>autistic shut-ins come out of the woodwork to seetheEvery time. I've used a pocket chainsaw before, I'll use one again, it'll work fine, and there's not a thing you can do about it.
way back when i was a kid they used to make those pocket chainsaws out of something not-bikechain-y and it actually worked really great like two times before it snapped.
>>2548169more paracord?
>>2555555Sadge
>>2533967Get a commie Veshmeshok, or however they´re called. Or that Romanian Army backpack from the...I guess 70s? You should find it, those things are aesthetic as fuck.
>>2536779>>2536779Microplastics
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>>2555828Thrifty/10. I assume the green thing is a hammock; do you have a tarp in there somewhere?
>>2555798Fuck off
>>2555795that Romanian pack always amazes me, it looks more like a prop from The Lord of the Rings
>>2555798are bladders a microplastics risk? they're made of silicone not plastic. they shouldn't be, right?
>>2555839No tarp, no rain here
>>2555975Microboobs
>>2533697i died at the wire detector.
>>2533443Yes, bushcrafters are gearfags.They only talk about gear and brands, and the trips they do to use that gear are always lame. They never walk beyond 10 minutes the nearest road.
>>2555975Microplastics are a spook. Small enough to pass through the blood brain barrier, yet somehow large enough to fit perfectly into estrogen receptors...Offgassing is what you should look out for, silicon is fine, thats why theyre made of it.
>>2556026Hikers just dont get it
>>2556040probably the best alternative to smartwater bottles and nalgenes then.steel and aluminum bottles suck ass in the winter. and titanium ones caps always grind and leak.
>>2556043Yup, silicon is pretty cool.You could just get an insulated stainless bottle.Or knit a cover for it you fucking fag.
>>2556051the problem is you have to give the lip of the cold metal bottle a rimjob. i'm too derpy to long pour.
>>2556053Aw yeh, that was a good manga.And you know you could just get a lid that lets you sip through it, right?
>>2556040It's almost like there's different polymers used in plastic, which break down into different particles. Here, let's try to make it even more simple. You know how shape dictates function for proteins, right? The body combines different amino acids to create proteins that have different shapes. So these plastics are made up of a variety of chemicals. Some of these chemicals, like BPA, can mimic things in the body, such as hormones. They will attach to the same receptors your natural hormones will attach to, which can activate processes in your body like that hormone would. Other chemicals in plastic do other things. Plastics are complex. There's a lot of things in them. You? You aren't complex. You're simple. By choice. Pick up a book.
>>2556061BPAs arent microplastics...Please dont opine on things you dont know about.
>>2533443because its advertising...
>>2542382.
>>2553754ofc this post goes unnoticed. dude is saying the realest shit I've heard on this topic. now I feel like shit about spending $1000 on gear I can hardly afford, but maybe I'll make videos using the gear to educate people on the topic in the same vein as Kevin. thankful for people like him
>>2553775>T. Wilderness ropist
>>2533443Long story, but I'm getting back into camping after going through Scouts and about a decade of camping maybe once a year. Do people unironically go out like this? I'm shopping for a new kit and I'm rock fucking hard at how good the gear is these days. Why would you want to go back to waxed canvas and shit?
>>2558913Its a larp. Everyone nowadays is Ultralight or bust.
>>2533443People want to use these packs because, aesthetic. 5 miles in to a backpacking trip you’ll be ready to sell your soul for a Mystery Ranch or Osprey pack.
>>2558918I’ve been down the ultralight rabbit hole. Spent thousands on gear and been backpacking over 100 times easily. Imo the meta is:>really comfy and advanced suspension pack(Mystery Ranch Terraframe or Osprey AG system)>try to get ultralight titanium durables like stove/pot/utensil>don’t skimp on the sleeping pad>rest is ultralight stuff>don’t take bs you don’t need or isn’t super value addedJust don’t make the mistake of getting a Dyneema pack with a crude/spartan suspension.Saving 3lbs on the pack by carrying an uncomfortable pack isn’t a long term strategy if you’re serious about putting miles on trail.
>>2558913It's for fun. Or if you don't feel challenged enough. Not for serious tours.
>>2558913Preference. I have a waxed canvas bag and I love it, especially during the winter months.
>>2553783Are you retarded?I'm assuming you are retarded and think the saw is a nunchuk.
>>2558913>Why would you want to go back to waxed canvas and shit?Sturdy, simple as.With thick Canvas, Cotton & Leather you have water resistance, ripstop, fire resistance & warmth of course it weighs more but only softies dare to complain
